Hey Brandon I propose that the Government create jobs when the GOP is completely against all federal spending. If you reduce federal spending that removes jobs. And there's little you can do to spur the private sector other than give away cash, something else the GOP is against.

Can't agree with you more....perhaps the next question should be: Where are the jobs you promised? At least Obama is making good on his promise to bring in corporate America to help spur job grown. Watch cnbc this morning when the head of Goggle said he had just signed on to head a task force (all volunteers) along with other CEOs to help create jobs. I ruge every American to write to their congressman/women and demand they stop wasting time with this and get to the business of fixing this country.

There you go again Feisty using those pesky facts, how dare you hold their feet to the fire! ;-)

Hey Brandon,

Mitch could get some work done if the Democrats would stop doing what they want and do what the people want so that they can get legislation passed.

Wouldn't they first have to draft some type of legislation to pass?? So far they have done NOTHING

Jeremy-960164

It's a matter of opinion. As far as I can tell, THE people want health care reform: They want to be able to cover their kids until the kids are 26 years old, they want health care for children with pre-existing conditions, as well as for adults. The people want progress to be made on health care. In fact, everyone I ask says they want every citizen to be covered. The Dems want health care for all and the GOP represents corporate interests, not "The People's".

You don't want these things?

they are doing what the people want.. The people do NOT like ObamaCare and want it gone.

Jeremy, what "people" are those...you? There have been many polls taken on the Health Care Law; the majority see a pretty even split between your point of view and totally opposite of your point of view. The only poll that I have seen that shows a clear majority is to keep and modify the law. Do you favor a unilateral dictatorship where only your voice is the "will of the people"? It sure sounds like it!

Where are all the jobs Republicans promised the Bush tax cuts would give us?

I guess we should keep the Bush tax cuts in place a while longer--they've got to create jobs eventually. Our economy was HORRIBLE in the late-1990's under the higher tax rates of the Clinton administration.

Feisty---Mitch needs the smoke and mirrors to divert the attention away from the fact that they, (the right), cannot and will not deliver anything that will actually help the masses.

healthcareforall2010: You don't want these things?

Sure. But only if you pay for it.

Senate democrats are SCARED TO DEATH to have to vote on the repeal. They would much rather wait for the Supreme Court to find it unconstitutional, so they don't have to explain to their constituents why they want to FORCE every American to buy "GOVERNMENT APPROVED" health care.

The left wants SO BADLY for the Republicans to unvail their reform plan before the Supreme Court ruling finding Obamacare unconstitutional, so they can scare their base into believing the Republicans are going to kill granny

If the left is so worried about job growth, why don't they demand a vote in the Senate on the repeal issue, so that Congress can get on with the business of America?

Obamacare was the sole reason unemployment went to 9.6% and the sole reason he won't be reellected

How do you figure that "Obamacare" caused unemployment to rise to 9.6%? It hit that number before any provisions of healthcare reform took effect. Now, I'll grant you that it could cause an increase in unemployment, but not before the employer-mandate takes effect in 2014.

Viewer_Ready,

In these uncertain times if you cut taxes on corporations, you'll get stronger corporate balance sheets, not more jobs. Only an increase in demand for their products will finally pull us out of this situation, otherwise they just sit on the extra cash. More jobs/job security will come AFTER increases demand.

Of course, we'd like to hear the Republican plan for job creation (and forget the "trickle down" tax cuts for the rich BS). But in regard to health care:

Show us the replace plan BEFORE you repeal -- Teapublican Tools!

The Party of Hell No needs to end now, and that goes for their supporters with their non-stop b!tch sessions, running our government and country down, obstructing, and just plain negativity. I'll take the "hopey changey thing" any day over their dismal Dark Ages doom.

Carl -- the economy was great during Clinton. Things didn't start to go south until the dot-com bust the summer of 2000, followed by 9-11, war, Katrina, and of course the economic meltdown in 2008 -- ALL during Bush/Cheney.

As for unions, I'm not saying these are without problems, but we can thank organized labor for correcting the market, so to speak, and fighting for decent wages and benefits for the American workers. Now that unions are only about 22% of what once existed, most have no memory of professionally-managed pension plans, and they sure can't remember having dental and vision coverage.

Step out of the right-wing "group think" Echo Chamber that has been poisoning your mind. Stop being a tool of Big Business, and start voting in your own best interest.

richard-1957365:

Feisty redhead For 2 years people have been asking Obama and the democrats where are the jobs?

HERE are the jobs:

http://quarkscrew.wordpress.com/2010/05/07/american-jobs-bikini-graph/

Job growth went from negative 700,000 jobs at the end of the disastrous GOP presidency to a net positive growth every month since the end of 2009. But jobs haven't been added fast enough to bring down the unemployment rate. That's what the Repubs promised to do.

So Weeper Boehner: WHERE ARE THOSE JOBS YOU PROMISED?????

Fisty,

The jobs are created by the private sector. How does the Senate create jobs?

Suzy

"Government doesn't create jobs but government over-regulation and taxation definitely prevent the private sector from creating them. The government's role in job creation should be to STAY OUT OF IT!"

Where are all the jobs that were created during the Bush administration when the government was "staying out of it"? Don't you think if that strategy worked it would have worked during that 8 year period?

Speaking of right-wing "group think" delusions:

The Republicans no longer have a platform. Their voodoo economics were debunked with the economic meltdown and Great Recession. And no one is interested in trying to legislate morality (abortion, gays, creationism taught in schools) when JOBS are the first order of business.

The Republican field for 2012 is just as pitiful as their out-of-date platform. They don't have anyone who is worth a POS.

Thanks for playin'...

You Far Right Wing Conservatives are drinking way too much Kool-Aid. You have absolutely 0 facts. With less than 33% of the Electorate voting in 2010, we hope they do force a vote on Health Care. We want all Republicans to be on record. If they do, it will be the demise of the Republican Party, which is already in shambles because of the Tea Party. They offer no solutions, ambitions or alternatives to even attempt to improve Health Care in this country. Why are they afraid, could it be because it would help middle-class Americans, provide jobs and improve the economy? If you're going to remark to this post, please offer some solutions to Health Care.

Thank You,

An Independent Centrist

P.S.

Regardless, the Republicans have already begun to self destruct and it will be complete by 2012. The other 66% of the Electoral remembers what Bush and the Republicans did to this country. When they vote in 2012, the Democrats will once again win the Presidency and Congress by a landslide.

In these uncertain times if you cut taxes on corporations, you'll get stronger corporate balance sheets, not more jobs

Very true statement. The Dow is over 12,000 and corporations are flowing in cash.

To the GOP that got TPd -- First off, the Bush tax cuts have been extended until 2012, and the health insurance reform does not to into effect until 2014. So stop with the uncertainty BS, or how government is in the way of recovery.

Also, congress holds the purse strings (not the White House). The Teapublicans have an overwhelming majority in the House and about break even in the Senate. If we don't see economic improvements, especially impressive job creation in the next two years, what is the excuse? You voted for the idiots--talk to them, not us.

I predict we're going to see a lot of blubbering from Boehner, and this time it won't be because of memories of sweeping the floor of his father's bar.

More jobs were created in 2010 than in the entire eight years of W's reign. This is from the labor department whose job it is to track empolyment stats. See the chart here:

wrightandleftreport.com/democracy/president-obama-has-created-more-jobs-than-president...

I'd like to force people who don't buy insurance to sign a statement that says, "I hereby relinquish my claim to all government assisted health care. Since I am voluntarily not paying into the system, I will not spend my fellow Americans' money". Then enforce it. When they crack their motorcycles up... tough luck.

@Carl W-- James Carville said, "What part of the 90's didn't you like--the peace or the prosperity?" Have to agree.

Reason, or lacking the Rule of Reason --

Bush's tax cuts were passed with reconciliation, with the second round that added breaks for dividends and capital gains requiring Cheney's vote as a tie-breaker -- And this was when there was a Republican majority. (BTW, Republicans have used reconciliation 15 times out of the 22 times in history).

Health insurance reform was passed with a filibuster-proof super majority. So stop with the "jammed down our throats" hypocrisy.

Many left-leaning people like me would like to see the insurance middlemen repealed and replaced with a Medicare-style fee-for-service, private sector program. The Republicans claim they presented all kinds of wonderful solutions to improve health care, but the Dems blocked these -- Where, oh where are all these solutions now?

We need to see the replace plan BEFORE the repeal.

We know that if this law is repealed, the lying Republicans will do nothing about our broken health care system, and in fact would obstruct any attempt by the Dems if they submit another replacement solution.

We know this because the Republicans have done nothing but play dirty and renege on all their promises, including promises they constantly make to their supporters--Get it through your heads--they have never cut spending, and they never will!

a repeal vote would force Democrats who are up for re-election in 2012 to go on the record in support of legislation which may not be popular in their home states.

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So it seems the rethuglicants really aren't any different than the Dems they so despise. It's all about the vote and playing political gamemanship.

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richard-1957365

Feisty redhead For 2 years people have been asking Obama and the democrats where are the jobs? McConnel has had less than a month. Ask your question in 2 years, it will make more sense.

richard,

You cons are simply amazing. Look up the word hypocric and you find the GOP. Within weeks of Obama's swearing in you right wingnuts were screaming he wasn't doing enough on the economy. What is good for the goose.......

BTW----they're not doing the people's work. You cons want everyone to believe EVERY American is against the reform bill passed last year. That is incorrect. The country was split almost 50/50 on it. Another misconception is the Congress hasn't accomplished anthing the last two years. In spite of the rethuglicant Senate becoming the most filibustering party every quite a bit got done, whether you like it or not. If we had followed the lead of the rethuglicants and let several major corperations fail we would've had an additional 8 million Americans out of work. Real bright thinking on the rethug supporters.

So let's look at the rethug controlled House and see what they've done this month. Wasted time on a bill they knew wouldn't passed but they wanted to score points with the voters and they disenfranchised 5 million Americans by voting to strip the limited voting privilledges of the delegates that serve the people of the American territories and DC. I say way to go.

I love the last line in post 1.33. I love your potential candidates even more. Sarah Palin, Michelle Bachman and Sharron Angle. If I was you I'd have my face stuck in the toilet with the thought that any of those three will hand Obama a second term. Bring on 2012. I want to watch the rethuglicant party self destruct.

From the right, it’s always the same line of, “get a job.” Just because you don't have a job doesn't mean others don't. To you, I say get an education.

demproud
More jobs were created in 2010 than in the entire eight years of W's reign. This is from the labor department whos job it is to track empolyment stats.

And the Judiciary Act of 1789, adopted by the First Congress that included many of the Constitution's framers, specifically authorized the Supreme Court to review decisions of state courts. Even if these provisions are read as authorizing courts to exercise judicial review of state actions, it does not follow that it authorizes them to strike down acts of Congress and the president

http://www.loc.gov/rr/program/bib/ourdocs/judiciary.html

When the governor of Arkansas blocked the desegregation of schools in Little Rock, on the ground that his state had not been a party to Brown v. Board of Education (1954), in which the Court had held racial segregation in schools to be contrary to the Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment, the Supreme Court responded in Cooper v. Aaron (1958), in an opinion signed separately by each of the nine justices, that "the interpretation of the Fourteenth Amendment enunciated by this Court in the Brown case is the supreme law of the land."

Read more: Judicial Review - Cooper v. Aaron, Brown, Collected Legal Papers, Marbury v. Madison, Marbury, Federalist Paper http://law.jrank.org/pages/18705/Judicial-Review.html#ixzz1Ck87AewQ

Reason-11551

The House voted OVERWHELMINGLY to repeal obamacare so we could get actual health care reform rather than that unconstitutional grab of power that is obamacare. So now Democrats are going to try to DENY a vote in the Senate in spite of the vast majority of the house voting for the repeal of obamacare.

Hundreds of bills passed by overwhelming majorities in the House were denied a vote by the Senate Republicans in the last Congress. "Reason" is just spewing more hypocrisy, selective outrage and LACK of reason from the rancid right.

And exactly when are we going to get the BOEHNERCARE that's supposed to replace "Obamacare?"

The Republicans claim to be the party of responsibility, family, ethics, patriotism and

prosperity. All of these claims are lies.

The Republicans have put America's children $10 trillion in the hole - $5 trillion of

this under Bush, whose irresponsible and unneeded tax cuts destroyed fiscal responsibility

achieved painstakingly by Clinton Administration, did not create a single job, and ended their

reign with an economic collapse.

The Republicans have lied aggressively for 30 years claiming that there was no global warming

and aggressively denied reality until it became undeniable, preventing clean-energy solutions

from being developed before the situation became critical.

The Republicans have used lies, fraud and corruption to force on America an unelected and disastrous regime that plundered the treasury, poisoned the planet, ran roughshod over the Constitution, instituted torture, and lied to get America into bloodshed.

They put this horrible burden upon the country as they claim to be its patriots - upon the

children as they claim to practice family values - this vast corruption and fraud as they

claim to be the party of ethics - this extreme irresponsibility as they claim to be the party

of responsibilty - and this economic disaster as they claim to be the party of prosperity and

economic sense.

All of Republicans' central claims have shown to be a fraud over the last ten years.

The Republicans claim to be the party of progress. And yet their insistence on clinging to

outdated technologies has denied America progress in achieving clean energy, livable cities and

suburbs, and one-hour instead of three-hour commutes. Instead they have caused America to lag behind the rest of the First World in technology innovation and to suppress instead of embrace real progress in developing and implementing advanced, sustainable and effective technologies. The funding cuts to the academia, forced by Republicans, have reduced the competitiveness of American science and resulted in significant reduction in Nobel prizes won by American scientists. The one industry that has achieved meaningful progress in the last three decades has been the computer industry, which is a vastly Democratic endeavor. Based on the personal computer, which was designed by a hippie, and situated in deeply Democratic San Francisco Bay Area, Washington State, and Democratic-voting areas of Northern Virginia, the computer industry has been the true engine of progress and innovation in America over the last three decades. The Republican-dominated industries, such as oil and insurance, have not only

failed to achieve meaningful progress, but instead have used deception and government lobbying to deny progress as they have been weighing down America and the world.

The Republicans claim to be the party of realism. And yet they have aggressively denied reality

of global warming until it became the catastrophe that it is now. They have clung to the party line of supply-side economics even when it repeatedly produced vast deficits while failing to create the prosperity that they were promised to create. The high-tax Clinton economy produced vast economic growth and made America by far the wealthiest country of any size in the world,

only behind tiny Luxembourg and Bermuda in per-capita terms. The low-tax Bush economy produced collapsing incomes, no new jobs, an economic collapse, and left America in tenth per-capita terms the tenth economy in the world, behind such countries as Ireland, Norway and United Arab Emirates. Republican operatives made such ridiculous statements as that human activity cannot affect the environment of the planet, that Reagan deficits were caused by the Democrats, that AIDS is God's way of controlling the homosexual population, that 9-11 happened because God took away his protective umbrella over America due to feminists and liberals in America, that there was an axis of evil between Iraq, Iran and North Korea, and that scientists and journalists are evil brainwashers - and people claiming such things are not.

The Republicans claim to be the party of prosperity. But America's greatest periods of

prosperity - both its peacetime and wartime - have been under the Democratic administrations of, respectively, Bill Clinton and FDR. Instead the Republican leaderships created America's two worst economic crises - the Great Depression under Hoover and the recent crisis under Bush. The Clinton economy produced 23 million new jobs and broad-based economic growth, as well as the first balanced budget in three decades. The Bush economy failed on all counts, creating $5 trillion debt, collapsing family incomes, and at the end an economic collapse. The driving engine of the economy in recent decades has been the Democratic computer industry, as well as the Internet, a government project. As for the knowledge and research that has made possible the products that are sold by businesses, it comes from the academia, which is a vastly Democratic endeavor, with only 3% of scientists being Republicans and 90% of America's Nobel Prize winners being Democrats.

The Republicans claim to be the party of responsibility. And yet they, through their irresponsible denial of the reality of global warming, have caused the present climatic disaster, of which the Democrats have warned for decades. They as well, through their irresponsible tax cuts, put America $10 trillion in debt - $5 trillion of this under Bush. They, through their getting the government out of regulation of business, have allowed the corruption in financial sector that caused the current economic collapse. They, through gutting the educational system, have dumbened Americans to the point that many lack the basic knowledge necessary for making

knowledgeable and responsible decisions as citizens and fall for one con after another.

The Republicans claim to be the party of family. And here they have forced on their children a ruined planet and a $10 trillion debt, and many are hoping for an end of the world before the children being born now have learned how to read. They have forced on the schools unfunded mandates that make it impossible for them to educate children properly. They have corrupted the court system to not only ignore crimes against children, but to persecute the mothers for reporting them, using non-existent disorders such as Parental Alienation Syndrome to claim the children reporting sexual or physical abuse to be brainwashed by the mothers. There is no truth at all to Republican claims of being pro-family; what they really are, is pro-abuse. And anyone

who truly values his family and acts accordingly has no use for their manipulations.

The Republicans claim to be the party of liberty. The history of Republican activities from

McCarthy to Wyerich to Gingrich has been the history of waging war against one culture after

another while fastening the noose tighter and tighter around everyone else's necks. From

academia and media to single mothers, Latin immigrants, homosexuals, and coast cities, every

culture that is not Republican has come under Republican extermination campaigns. In the

Republican areas of America, meaningful liberty is extinct. There is one lifestyle, one

belief, one party line, and zero tolerance for anything different. The social activities of

Republican Party are concerned with extinguishing meaningful liberty where they dominate and

then directing their constituents toward destroying meaningful liberty everywhere else - both

inside America and outside of it.

The Republicans claim to be the party of small government. And yet they created the most

expensive, most invasive, and most oppressive government in the history of America. The Bush

government, with its institution of torture, its anti-constitutitonal Patriot Act, its bloat of the government, its adding $5 trillion to federal debt after the Clinton government had painstakingly and expensively to itself created the first balanced budget in decades, has been the closest that America has ever come to totalitarianism. Not Woodrow Wilson, not FDR, not Nixon, not Carter and certainly not Clinton added this much bloat to the government or made it more invasive, unconstitutional, and destructive of people's rights.

The Republicans claim credit for America's military. And yet America's proudest military

victories - in World War I and World War II - were under Democratic administrations. It was

under FDR and Truman that America became the world's greatest military superpower. More recently, the Clinton administration's military actions succeeded; whereas those of the Bush administration have mired America in quagmires that are going on to this day.

The Republicans claim to be the party of honesty and integrity. And yet they have forced on

America through fraud and corruption the most dishonest, most blatantly criminal, and most anti-

constitutional government that America has ever had. The scale of the crimes of Bush

administration - using corruption to get into power; lying to get America into a war; instituting

torture; putting America $5 trillion in debt; and leaving America in the state that it left it -

would make Nixon seem like a man of honor and Clinton like a saint. Not only Bush, but

Republicans before Bush, lie as a matter of policy on matters of vital significance, from denying global warming to consistently denying the reality and the source of federal debt.

The Republicans claim to be the party of American patriotism, even to the point of claiming

Democrats to be traitors. There is such a thing as principled patriotism, and there is such a

thing as unprincipled patriotism; and the latter is sought only by those intent on violation of

Constitutional principle. The principled patriotism seeks the well-being of one's country, but

refuses to do evil in its name. The unprincipled patriotism that the Ann Coulter Republicans

demand is entirely contradictory to America's founding principles. The only person or entity

that would demand unconditional, unprincipled loyalty is either an evildoer or a tyrant. To

demand that people forego intelligence, judgment, and principle and do what they know to be

wrong in one's name, is something that would only be sought by those intent on tyranny or

evildoing or both at once. Whether it be a gang, a pedophile ring, a corrupt small town, or a

party that takes over the government through corruption and then leads America on a path to

disaster, such an entity does not only not deserve the unqualified loyalty that it's seeking.

Such an entity does not deserve any loyalty at all.

The Republicans claim to be the party of Abraham Lincoln. In fact, it is the Democrats that have continued and added to his legacy, while Republican Party has abandoned it. Abraham Lincoln fought for civil rights, to the point of going to war against the South that was intent on retaining its institution of slavery. Now, most of the South - as well as Christian Identity, skinhead, white supremacist, and similar racist constituencies - vote Republican. White conservative Southerners used to vote for Democrats for a long time as they identified

Republican Party with Abraham Lincoln and their defeat in the Civil War. When the Democrats

adopted civil rights platform and fought for and remained true to civil rights cause, this

constituency shifted its loyalties to Republican Party. In recent elections, the South has been

the most Republican-voting constituency in America. The Republicans of today are nothing like the party that they were under Lincoln, and most Lincoln voters would vote for Democrats if the

election were held today - just as much as most of his enemies would now vote Republican.

The Republicans like to compare Democrats to Joseph Stalin and his abuses. And yet the

constituency for Bush Republicans was exactly the same as the constituency for Stalinism in USSR. The military (though not all of it), the country people (though not all of them), the social

conservatives - these are as reliably Republican in America as they were reliably hard-line

Communist in the Soviet Union. The Democrats, whom American Right likes to equate with Stalinism, were made of the same constituencies as were the pro-democracy groups in the Soviet Union: The big cities, the highly educated, artists, intellectuals, and people with exposure to other places and ways of life. And just like the Soviet Union's hardliners aimed to portray these people as "Western imperialist" or "counter-revolutionary," so does American Right aim to equate Democrats with Stalinism, when in fact American Right has much more in common with actual Stalinists than it does with pro-Western forces in former Soviet Union, or than the American Democrats do with Communist hard-liners in former USSR.

The Republicans like to claim credit for America and all its achievements. In fact, most of

America's achievements are due to the Democrats. It is Democrats that, as scientists, create

knowledge and technology that gives business the products to sell. It is Democrats that,

as the bulk of the management, workers, and business leaders of the computer industry,

were the engine of prosperity of 1980s and 1990s. It is Democrats that, as the Clinton

administration, gave America its greatest peace and prosperity, the first balanced budget in

30 years, drastic drop in violent crime and an overhaul of the government to make it

efficient and user-friendly. It is Democrats that, as America's teachers, journalists,

and social workers, do all the heavy lifting to educate workers and citizens and keep people

productive and off of crime. Democrats gave America civil rights, womens' rights, the bulk of

its technological and scientific achievement, and both its greatest peacetime prosperity

(under Clinton) and its greatest wartime prosperity (under FDR). As for America's military,

its proudest achievements were likewise under Democrats - winning the First World War under

Woodrow Wilson and winning the Second World War under FDR and Harry Truman.

That the Republicans have gotten away with their lies is testimony mainly to the fact that they know how to shout the loudest and be the most bullying in their presentation. But it is not shouting the loudest or being a bully, but rather the truthfulness of one's claims, that make for

rightful solutions. It is time that the Democrats address and confront all the lies that have

come from American Right. This is one such endeavor from one registered Democrat.

personally, if i was Obama i'd tie the repeal of healtcare reform to a repeal of tax cuts for people earning over $250k per year and a raise of taxes on inheritance over $1m, I'd also raise taxes on companies sending jobs overseas.

The film industry makes so many films in Canada because the(Canadian) government there made it finacially viable, by giving back taxes to american movie makers who hired a Canadian crew, why does America always miss these opportunities?

The simple answer is that they're too tied up in partisan politics to see the opportunities as they present themselves. Make a lower tax rate for companies that hire a certain percetage of American workers, and a higher tax bracket for those that fall below the mark.

Bingo

I like the new guy ":))

Why don't republicans tie there repeal to something that would actually lower the debt? Repealing HCR will add 18 trillion to the debt in ten years ......repeal health care then add the tax break to the rich to it and see how many repubs vote for it? see where they stand on lowering the deficit

Suzy-2005071 "Government doesn't create jobs but government over-regulation and taxation definitely prevent the private sector from creating them. The government's role in job creation should be to STAY OUT OF IT!"

Very true, but try explaining that to a liberal.

I find it amusing that the same people who call for increased costs, taxes and regulations on businesses are the same ones that complain about American jobs being outsourced. I guess they never learned to 'connect the dots' in kindergarten.

Here is a brief economics lesson for people;

Companies don't pay income taxes, people do. When you add costs through more regulations (HCR, Financial 'Reform', etc.) and more taxes ***, the business has to add those extra costs to the price of their product or service, and if they are then unable to compete with foreign businesses, they close down and the jobs move to foreign countries - permamently. This has been going on for generations, so why is everyone surprised that we're losing jobs to other countries now? We're slowly but surely 'killing the golden goose' with our anti-business policies.

*** - Here's some interesting information on taxes - The top corporate income tax rate is about 35%, and the remaining profits are then distributed to stockholders as dividends, which can also have an additional tax rate of 35%. And then, if you live in a state like California, they have to pay another 9+% in State Income Taxes. Anything left over and spent is then subject to a sales tax rate of 9%+, which doesn't even count anything they pay in property taxes, etc. If they happen to manage to save any of the 'after tax income' and invest it, they will then be subject to income taxes on any interest income (again at 35% + 9+%). It makes you wonder why they bother, and I can certainly see why they would want to move their business operations somewhere else, where the host country might 'appreciate' what they do a little more, instead of punishing them for being successful - which brings up another interesting fact - 95% of new startup businesses fail within the first 5 years, so do we really wonder why businesses consider the current government policies less than friendly?

Of course, since nearly 50% of people don't pay any income taxes, and many actually get 'refunds' (tax credits) even though they pay nothing in, they could care less about excessive government spending and tax increases since they are not affected, and they will continue to vote for politicians that promise a continuation of the 'freeby' services they get, at someone else's expense.

And everyone wonders why we're in financial trouble?????????????????

Reason:

You really need to work on your arithmetic. We haven't even seen the second budget for Obama's first term. The debt in his first year came courtesy of the last year of the Bush administration. A mere fact.

Please explain why the Republicans insisted creating jobs was job one, and yet in the House they have been working on health care repeal - an impossibility, and returning women to the status of chattel. Is that sort of like if we can keep them damned women barefoot and pregnant, they'll be fully employed? Just asking.

Reason -

When the last few votes were gotten by backroom deals, outright bribes and lies about what was and was not in it, "jammed down our throats" is indeed accurate, especially when the vast majority of Americans were screaming at the top of their lungs that they wanted reform, NOT this anti-constitutional obamacare takeover.

Both parties take part in back-room deals, bribes and lies. To imply that your own party does not do this means you are either too ignorant to know about it, or you are an outright liar trying to push your idea with false information. The majority of Americans still want reform, not repeal . . . again, stop pushing false information.

Every idea that was not Democrats was said "no" to because they held the majority. And this is why they lost their majority this past November. Round 2: 2012.

The health care bill went through 18 different revisions as they ADDED Republican ideas to the bill. Why do you think the current bill is so similar to the health care bill presented by Dole? Again, you are spreading false information and outright lies.

You're talking about revenge when your President has clearly shown he is racist, seemingly out for some sort of racist revenge when he made the comment recently to Republicans: "We don’t mind the Republicans joining us. They can come for the ride, but they gotta sit in back" A racist remark referring to when blacks had to sit in the back of the bus. Yet you ignore this too, which exposes your hypocrisy.

Why did you stop your quote early? Go on . . . finish the quote. Here, I will do it for you. "they gotta sit in the back of the car." Car, not bus. You know the difference, right? He used this quote during his car analogy, and he never changed the car to a bus. You are spreading lies and false information AGAIN. Try to stick to the facts next time.

By the way, your President slipped back in death panels via executive order over Christmas

Another blatant lie. Are you allergic to the truth? There are no death panels discussed ANYWHERE in the health care bill. In fact, I will do the work for you. Read pages 425 -430 of the bill. You will see that is says "voluntary counseling sessions between seniors and their doctors to discuss end-of-life care" . . . read it again. "Counseling sessions" between the patient and their "doctors" . . . not the government, not a panel, "DOCTORS". A counseling session between a patient and their doctor is not a death panel, it is not a governmental order, it is not a bureaucratic decision. COUNSELING with your DOCTOR. Please read that 5 more times.

Your arguments and opinions would hold more weight if you actually use facts, instead of proven lies. Look up the facts yourself, they are available for anyone to see.

redheads (usually ugly) back with the anti-gay, bashing slurs

Roy, you make entirely too much sense.

Get the names of the democrats who are fighting the GOP on this!!! Some were removed in 2010, more to go in 2012! Liberals are only 20% of the voters!! Independents and conservatives unite; Obama Health Care is costing us now with no cost savings benefits! Repeal and destroy! Health care comes with hard work and planning, not a federal government hand out! Lots of states already had a health care for the needy and the federal was forcing their plans in and the states plans out! Shameful failed Obama administration and its extreme liberal ideals, defiantly not main stream American values!!!! Here comes the liberals with their Obama nonsense, good luck with that!!

Olddog26 -

Technically the voter make-up is about the same on both sides. 20% far-left liberal and 20% far-right conservative. The moderates, like always, will determine the outcome of the next election.

Now I know that you are not a political strategist, but use a little commonsense here. Who do you think will win over more moderate votes: An extreme right candidate? Or a left candidate moving towards the center?

Now take into consideration the polls that say half of America wants the health care bill, and the remaining 50% is split between wanting it repealed and wanting it to do more. That means only a minority want it fully repealed. Again, lets put our commonsense hat's back on. Who will win an election: A candidate pushing for full repeal, with support of a minority? A candidate wanting it to stay but willing to make changes, getting support from those that want to keep it and those that want to do more with it?

Politics is all about numbers, and the numbers do not bode well for you. Why would Independents unite with Conservatives? I am about as Independent as they come, and I am looking for a candidate more towards the center, not the extreme. What benefit do extreme right candidates provide for me?

David Walker "Reason: You really need to work on your arithmetic. We haven't even seen the second budget for Obama's first term. The debt in his first year came courtesy of the last year of the Bush administration. A mere fact."

Reason -

So that's your justification? "Well everyone else does it"? I rest my case.

I never once said it was ok because everyone else does it (learn to read), I simply pointed out your hypocrisy. You come down on Democrats for backroom deals while your own party does the same. That makes you a hypocrite. I don't think either party should do it, but I am smart enough to know better than to accuse the other party of such tactics when my own would do the same. But hypocrisy is a staple of the Republican way . . . just ask Rush.

To pretend the "ideas" they added to the bill were of ANY significance in comparison to the unconstitutional garbage that is inflicts on America is disengenuous.

So first you said that all Republicans ideas were ignored, and now you say they were added but are of no significance. Make up your mind. Were they ignored? Or were they of no significance? I like how you change your stance after the facts prove you wrong.

Please cite where it's quoted that what he said ends with "of the car" - I just googled it again and in 10 different places, 10 different sites, there's a PERIOD after back. I couldn't find a site that had "of the car."

If you're going to claim he actually SAID "of the car" then please cite 5 official sources that show the same thing (not just some poster in a forum) - should be easy if he really said it because i can offer you DOZENS of sites that show his statement ended with "sit in the back." Why are you lying?

Ok, you are right. I got the actual quote wrong. I was paraphrasing by pointing out that he was talking about a car, not a bus. But if you want to play that game, ok. Here is the FULL speech. No where does he say "bus", instead he talks about a "car" the entire time.

"Many of the Republicans who are running right now, these are the exact same folks who spent the last decade driving our economy into a ditch. And once we were elected, Joe and I, we put on our boots, we went down into that ditch. It was muddy and dusty down there and it was hot. And we started pushing on that car to get it out of the ditch. And we had a whole bunch of folks like Joe Sestak helping us push that car out of the ditch. (Applause.)

And every once in a while, we'd look up at the Republicans. They were -- they had driven into the ditch, but they had gotten out and they were kind of taking a break, fanning themselves and sipping on a Slurpee, watching us do all the work. And every once in a while they'd say, why don't you push harder? You're not pushing the right way, Obama. But they didn't help.

And after pushing and pushing over these last 20 months, finally we've got that car out of the ditch. (Applause.) Now, the car is a little dented up. The fender is a little busted. It needs a tune-up. But it's moving. It's pointing in the right direction. We're on level ground now. We're starting to make repairs. And suddenly we get a tap on our shoulder and we look back and who is it? It's the Republicans. And they say -- what are they saying? -- they say, we want the keys back.

AUDIENCE: No!

THE PRESIDENT: Philadelphia, they can't have the keys back. They don't know how to drive. (Applause.) They don't know how to drive. They can ride with us if they want, but they got to get in the back seat. (Applause.) Because we want to go forward. We don't want the special interests riding shotgun. We want working families, middle-class families, up front. They're our priority."

Now I know that you got your little "bus" accusation from Glen Beck, ironically the person who also tells you to look up the facts yourself. Well here are the facts. His speech was in reference to a car. It's right there, right in front of your face. CAR. No where does it say bus, but you and Beck decided to LIE in a pathetic attempt to twist this into something it is not.

I am man enough to admit I got the quote wrong, and I have corrected it. Are you man enough to admit you twisted the entire speech and lied about what he was referring to?

It was TAKEN OUT so that more would vote for it. You do remember it being taken out, do you not?! But now it was added by Obama via executive order over Christmas, so it's not in the actual pages of the bill you're reading back.

Did Glen Beck tell you this too? Well he has such a strong reputation for telling the truth (see "bus" example) that I am sure you believed him. Please provide the facts that prove this was "slipped back in" . . . actual page references with a link to this "new" bill will suffice. And no, a link or quote from Glen Beck is not valid proof. That man has been caught in so many lies he has lost all credibility.

New Guy...you do realize the film industry is saturated with very rich liberal democrats..... dont you!

Roy:

I believe you will find that President Obama signed the budget into law in April. Stickler for facts that you seem to be, you certainly know that there had to have been a continuing resolution to facilitate this. Furthermore, you also know that the 2009 budget was little more than a rehash of the 2008 budget. Thus is it always, and apparently thus shall it always be. The 2010 budget is only slightly different from 2009, and as the Tea Party crowd is learning in spite of Republican rhetoric to the contrary, out of control spending will continue in the 2011 budget, and so on, and so on.

The change I voted for was a country where Republicans do not measure success by the failure of other Americans. The change I voted for was increased literacy and personal responsibility. The change I voted for was an end to rampant political hypocrisy. The change I voted for was honest budgets that don't hide the cost of foreign invasions and pork.

Don't imagine for one second that I start dancing when I hear a Democrat speak. However, as a former Republican, I am disgusted and appalled by the outright dishonesty of the G.O.P., the fear that seems to motivate all of their actions, and the hatred that they spew.

I am not embarrassed to say that I am of a liberal mind. That does not mean that I believe in waste. It certainly doesn't mean that I approve of government subsidized stupidity and laziness. It does mean I will not tolerate the trolls, the wanton liars, and the utterly amoral corporate shills who now run the Republican Party.

"finnaly get serious about solving the health care system problems of the country"...what the H*ll are you talking about. How could you ever come to the conclusion (more appropriately--delusion) that McConnel and the GOP will ever address 'problems' that are making so many of his (their) constituents very very wealthy at the expense of people who don't support or vote for them! The GOP has done a magnificent job of deluding people who apparently lack the crititcal thinking skills to to see through the BS they dole out.

When the debates were going on, GOP amendments were offered and accepted. Many of the problematic provisions are GOP amendments or original plans from prior years.

Who cares WHOSE plan is accepted, just have one. Our healthcare in this country hangs on the precipice and people live or actually die over these delays.

Politics aside on this issue. WE THE PEOPLE need our representatives to represent WE THE PEOPLE, NOT WE THE CORPORATIONS of America!!!

JoAnna

"wtf moment".....quoting Palin.....absolutely patetic!

Oh sure! Like the Repubs give a crap about 40 million uninsured Americans

Finally get serious? The democrats have been serious about reforming healthcare for years, get your facts straight. Republicans will like to say that they were not in the loop on healthcare reform, when in fact, the republicans offered amendments to the healthcare bill, and still voted against their very own amendments. And yes the un constitutinonal mandate that republicans call government over reaching was in fact their very own idea. If you want to get serious about government reform, tell the republicans to get serious. They have and never will be serious about health reform, this is all a charade and morons like you are to blinded by ideology to see that Get real, and get your facts straight.

May I ask what decade you think that might happen? Seems like the Republicans have had decades to do something about health care and yet NOTHING was done. . The ONLY problem with this health program is that it hurts their buddies in the industry.

Seriously? Anyone who believes that we don't need universal healthcare in this country has never had to work a crappy job with no benefits for little over minimum wage where you cannot afford health insurance and then tried to go to a doctor when something happens like their back going out. Try it, you end up spending all day in the emergency room just to be rushed through by some intern who thinks you are a drug seeker. Fun Times. But hey, yeah, we're only in this position because we choose to be here right.

CAH - I've often wondered....if the purpose of the GOP is to offer and support only those policies that benefit the wealthy...let's say the top 2%..no let's make it the top 5%...heck take it to the top 20%...if the GOP is out for only the top 20% income earners....how do you win elections with only 20%? How did they deliver the equivalent of a political bitch slap in the mid terms last November? How can that happen?

WTF Joanna......................... Keep up the Good work. for you liberals out there. thats . "Win the Future"..

Better pray you don't get sick if these republican liars get their way. The only thing you can be sure of is the fact that their friends in the insurance industry are just waiting to dump the sick, all the while making us pay huge premium increases that raise their profits. At least the reform was working toward the fact that 83 cents of every dollar charged needed to be spend on providing care, something definitely on the radar of the republicans.

I see Joanna got her talking points memo. Joana, what's it like to not have an original thought of your own? Just wondering.

Lt. Dangle...Liberals make up a tiny portion of the population? Obama was elected by a majority of the population, unlike the last Republican president. Also, prior to calling people stupid, you may want to run a spelling and grammar check. It might make you seem more credible. Well, probably not, but it couldn't hurt.

obamcare: Finally get serious? The democrats have been serious about reforming healthcare for years,

Perhaps next time around, the Dems should find a solution that is constitutional.

JoAnnaSmith1

It's just a matter of time before ObamaCare is repealed. Once that happens, we can finally get serious about solving the health care system problems of the country.

So Senator Smith please tell the press what your plan is, and please don't tell us that we have to repeal HCR before you give us your plan, but i suspect you no better than your fellow republicans senators, the only plan is tax cuts. speaking of cuts when are you going to cut medicade part D !!!!!!! SIR!!!!!

"JoAnnaSmith1

It's just a matter of time before ObamaCare is repealed. Once that happens, we can finally get serious about solving the health care system problems of the country.

ObamaCare: Just another "WTF" moment from Obama and the Democrats."

Show us the Republicans' replacement for Obamacare. Don't we need to have a replacement law, ready to go, before we have legislation repealed for the 18% of Americans that want HCR repealed?

Does everyone understand that it will cost over $100B almost immediately to fully repeal the health care reform now or in the near future? How are the "no more spending" GOP/TPM planning on funding this cost without further raising the deficit? Oh yeah, they'll just cut more programs aimed at stimulating the economy, creating jobs, and helping all of us ordinary Americans. We clamored for decades that we needed health care reform and insurance companies reigned in, and what do many people do when they finally get something moving in the right direction? They complain about it. No, HCR isn't perfect. How many highly complex overhauls ever are? But it's a huge step in the right direction. We should focus on refining it and not wasting half of our legislators time trying to repeal it when they know they don't have the Senate votes and it certainly isn't veto proof. With the divisions in Congress NOTHING will get passed to replace it for many years! It will backfire on the GOP by the next election when enough republican voters realize what they are about to lose: Coverage for college aged children, sick people being dropped for immaterial application errors, elimination of pre-existing condition denials, preventative care, Medicare donut hole returns, lifetime caps reinstated, copays come back even higher than before...the list goes on. CALL YOUR GOP/TPM CONGRESSPERSON NOW AND TELL THEM TO GET BACK TO THE REAL WORK OUR COUNTRY NEEDS!!!

The democrats are only "serious" about making themselves look good on paper and on ballots.

Obmacare was a farce and if not repealed now,.. will be later.

You liberals really need to stop kidding yourselves.

Wait till you get that first insurance bill, have no job and can't pay it.

The Obama "insurance police" will be on you like white on rice.

Why?,.. because if you had READ the bill you will see where they get their cut.

This is the perfect opportunity for the Democrats up for reelection in 2012 to tell their constituants where they stand. What are they afraid of?

So why is it if the republican ideas offered 20 years ago were not good enough to be voted into law, they now get blamed for the crappy bits they realized 20 years ago they couldn't pass? How did they suddenly become good ideas when recycled by democrats? And why is it republicans take the blame for wanting to do nothing but line the pockets of Big Insurance when the ONLY thing ACA does for health care in this country is provide insurance companies with a cash cow in the form of higher premiums justified ANTICIPATED cost increases to cover those with preexisting conditions? If I recall, there was an article on MSNBC less than a month ago reporting enrollment numbers for those with preexisting conditions were far below projections, yet many have seen 30% or greater increases in premiums (yes, I know, 18% per year was average before ACA was signed into law, already ridiculous, now we're nearly doubling that for one year, though). How many companies have stopped writing child only policies because they are no longer profitable? The problem with our health care costs is more CAUSED by insurance than solved by it!

PuddleDuck: Don't we need to have a replacement law, ready to go, before we have legislation repealed for the 18% of Americans that want HCR repealed?

Nope.

Mark R,

Perhaps the 40 Million you say don't have insurance should give a crap about themselves and purchase health insurance. If they all jumped in willingly we would not be having this discussion. But they don't want to pay for it like the rest of us do they? There would be no need for a mandate by the feds if 40 million would be responsible for themselves.

Or are you going to tell me that all 40 Million are not capable of taking care of themselves? So what are you saying to those people? They can't cut the mustard? Thay have no skills? All they can hope for is for a handout? They can't do it for themselves?

That is rather condescending. I believe most of the 40 Million are capable, smart, hard working and choose not to buy a product they don't want. I have insurance to protect my family from losing our stuff and home. I say if you don't want insurance and want to play the odds go for it. But be ready to give up your assets to pay your bill. I know that they would come after mine even with insurance.

lt.jdangle

"The republicans plan was tort reform and allowing healthcare to be sold accross statelines to promote competition. You know, things that will actuall lower costs. Not raise them like obama care did."

Why don't they work on adding those things to the existing bill? Obama said just recently that he was open to improving the bill and that those things are worth discussing. No need to tear the whole building down to add a few supports.

Touchdownplay

Mark R,

Perhaps the 40 Million you say don't have insurance should give a crap about themselves and purchase health insurance. If they all jumped in willingly we would not be having this discussion. But they don't want to pay for it like the rest of us do they? There would be no need for a mandate by the feds if 40 million would be responsible for themselves.

This statement is what wrong with america, there is a feeling among republicans and there uneducated followers, that people who don't have health care are lazy, well the truth, the only lazy person is a person wthat would post this, instead of reading why people don't have health care, you take the lazy way out like Joanna and make statement that makes you seen uneducated.

I know a lady that paid her health permuims for 30 years, she raised 6 kids after her husband died of eumonia at the young age of 38. she was a smoker and had cancer in her family, her father and grand mother died of cancer. she never worred about her health ins untill she was diagnosed with brest cancer in 1989. In 1996 she was fazed out of her job after working there for 30 years. what she did not know is that the cobra was too expensive to pick up, so she went out to find some health ins and could not. why pre-existing conditions. Cancer, her previous plan droped her because she hit her life time cap, Now touchdownplay this lady does not fall into your lazy catigory, but she is a typical case why some don't have health care. Now i agree there are some who just don't want to buy any and would rather bleed the system to get free care througt the emergency room.

so please in the future some people who don't have are not lazy!!!

Js1

Perhaps next time around, the Dems should find a solution that is constitutional.

So when Cheny/Bush passed the Medicare D didn't it also have deadlines if not meet then the seniors would be fine for each month they didn't sign up.

@Touchdownplay,

Learn how to argue. Every single one of your questions are logical fallacies.

"When the debates were going on, GOP amendments were offered and accepted"

please post one...

Jeff-1541632,

Read much? Try Again. What I said about them was...................

I believe most of the 40 Million are capable, smart, hard working and choose not to buy a product they don't want.

FR: While it’s unlikely that the GOP will gain the Democratic support . . . .

It's not clear why this Conventional Wisdom persists. 23 of the 33 Senate seats up for election in 2012 are currently held by the Democrats. It's up to those 23 Democrats to decide if they want to continue their jobs in 2013.

I imagine that the Democrats are just hoping the courts throw this piece of trash out, that way they can't be held as responsible.

That's funny, Dreaming.

Johanna - It must be difficult to be so void of facts and besotted by the BS of the Republicans. They really have you believing that they give a rats a** about health care for the people of the country. Yeah sure they want to repeal HCR but they have no intention of replacing it with anything. They like the system just the way it is....those that got...get, aned those that don't...well it must be their fault.

Laurie Neither party cares remember when the dems are in power they promise to help the downtrodden, another broken promise. If they help the poor get better then the former poor realize that they do not want to give their hard earned money away and the dems lose people. The more that are lower class (just a term, not meant to be demeaning) the more votes they get to stay in power. Without republicans social security, civil rights would not have passed because they could not get enough dems to vote for it.

Btw if I misquoted anything my apologies, not trying to mislead anyone.

This is part of what the midterm elections were all about.

President Obama and Congressional Democrats chose a completely partisan procedure to pass health care reform.

All the while, they ignored negative public opinion on Obamacare.

This is what happens when you pass landmark legislation without bipartisan support or the support of a majority of the populace.

Ongoing opposition is to be expected...and it isn't going away.

No wonder President Obama has become a big fan of bipartisanship lately...since November's midterm Democratic electoral apocalypse, anyway.

Too bad it didn't happen sooner.

The President could have avoided all of this.

Mixed Bag,

"Bipartisan support" did not exist since Obama's inauguration.

Remember "The Party of No", filibusters, procedural delays?

Obama and the Democrats had no other choice than to go it alone if they wanted to get anything done.

WOW so many left wing nuts.

70% of the American people vote in Nov 2010 for repeal period! The left was deaf to the 70% of Americans that rejected Obamacare and the left/progressive loonies.

Wake up idiots, you are the minority. 2012 you will further loose more. Independents like me will no longer will vote for any democrat in the next election. Without our vote Obama would have lost.

Well in 2012 he will back to Chicago with Rahm.

Exactly. Here is one solution given by a Republican during an interview on the news: People should just get high deductible insurance.

Leme 'splain what this out-of-touch Republican doesn't get (or maybe he does, in which case he should be hung as a traitor). When people have high deductibles, they never use their insurance--it's too costly to use it. Of course at the same time they must pay monthly premiums, and individual insurance for one person is rarely less than $200/month, without prescription coverage. So this person is still going to end up in ER and will probably default on their bills if he/she gets sick.

In the meantime, the insurance companies are wetting their pants with joy over the $200/month they collect for absolutely nothing! At least the health insurance reform will require that 80% of premiums be returned in the form of actual health care services.

We know which Party has had backroom meetings with insurance and Big Pharm -- the lying, cheating Republicans who desperately need campaign funds because the RNC is so far in debt.

repubs don't mind being lied to ..because all they know is lies and kept dumbed down

they just want everyone else to pay for their healthcare and the responsible ones that have insurance pick up the tab........... they are the leeches in the health care system

Mixed,

You said-

"President Obama and Congressional Democrats chose a completely partisan procedure to pass health care reform."

What partisan procedure are you talking about

Seems it came up for a vote and garnered enough to pass with the help of a couple of honorable Republicans. Isn't that how it's supposed to be done?

So TruePatriot

Does this mean you are ok with the Government telling a company how much profit it is allowed to mek? Does this mean that since Michelle Obama thinks her kid is fat that she can order Barry to make it so McDonalds is only allowed to earn 1% profit?

This is the country you want to live in? If so please move to Cuba or Argentina

I am in the blue state of Oregon and the headlines today said that the entire healthcare plan was found unconstitutional by a fed judge in Florida. Not a peep from msnbc.

The worst part of the bill is the mandate. If the fed can demand that you buy insurance and claim it is good for the country, then they can demand that you to buy a car, or a house, or a cup of coffee, if it is supposedly good for the country.

It will be going down in flames when it reaches the supreme court.

wwterry what world do you live in . Dont you remember the democrats using a little procedure to avoid a vote in the senate which they would have lost?

Bob,

The problem with your comment is it does not take into account the reality that if you don't buy a car, it does not effect me. No house, doesn't effect me. No coffee, again will not effect me. However, when someone gets sick or injured without insurance or other means of paying for treatment it does effect me. What you propose is the continuation of some people to take advantage of those of us who do pay. Isn't that what you all complain about all the time?

For all of the squawking from the right about how bad the mandate is, why was it first proposed by the right? Or were you for it before you were against it?

vwterry-

Which "couple of honorable Republicans" voted for the final passage of Obamacare in either the House or the Senate?

Then...

Give them the news.

I'm pretty sure they're unaware that they voted for it.

I know that I am.

For the terminally ignorant above, the democrats cared nothing for bipartisanship when they decided America needed to become the nanny state with government control from cradle to grave a$$ wiping. You the 12%ers need to get your news from a source that isn't propped up to keep them rfom keeling over to the left. There is no health care crisis in America, it is just the dems wanting you to fall for their control schemes.

For the record, which should have been obvious for anyone who watched the November elections, the vote was about the economy. Overwhelmingly, the economy exceeded every other issue during exit polling. So for everyone saying, the Dems got whipped because of HCR, that is simply not true. Believe what you want, but its not what actually happened. Like almost every other time in history, national elections depend on how people are doing at the time they vote. If the economy is in shambles, then there is a change. If its going great, people tend to win reelection. A few points:

....80% of those polled said the economy was their greatest concern when voting

....26% blamed Obama for the nations economic woes

...voters who cast ballots for Obama in 2008, overwhelmingly stuck with Democrats and believe in his HCR and economic packages

These polls were conducted by the Edison Research Center for the Associated Press.

So, sit there and say HCR this and HCR that and Dems got whooped or whatever, but ultimately, its the economy, stupid.