Bev:

You said it better than I. You made me smile.

Ron Indiana

What else could it be ? Actually, I had more choice words; but didn't want the crickets to all start chirping in harmony.

I'm glad I put a smile on your face.

The GOP/ Tea baggers certainly are not open and honest with their comments. The word they want to use is "FOOL".

As in, "I PITY DA FOOL THAT DON'T THINK MILK IS GOOD FOR DA KIDS?"

Something to that effect? :D

Bev,

You could also substitute a 'T' for the 'F'!

If it smells like a goat and walks like a goat... well

Feisty

Bev,

You could also substitute a 'T' for the 'F'!

Darn it, I shoulda thought of that!!! Substitute the "T" as in something purchased.

Cuz they sho didn't buy da rap.
So they gave him a wrap

Cuz he got a lot of time

To rhyme

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Spank(er),

Sure no one wants to pay higher taxes but if it saves the state why not ? BESIDES, IT'S TEMPORARY. It's the Glenn Beck's and FOX No Business Channel that are so quick to make an issue on anything Chicago or Illinois because it's the President's home state.

BTW: Spank(er), Did you know FOX Business Channel is not rated?

Along with Bloomberg TV, Fox Business is seen as a second-tier player on the cable business beat to CNBC. Its audience, which is not fully rated by the Nielsen Co. because it generally clocks in below 100,000 viewers, pales in comparison to Fox News Channel's gargantuan reaches.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_upshot/20101110/bs_yblog_upshot/fox-business-network-snags-lou-dobbs

LOL the drones tune in to hear lies and eye ball Glenn Beck's black board.

People are bashing my state. But what they don't know is it's the first time in 21 years that lawmakers increased the income tax, which was the lowest in the nation for states.

Critics have spent the past week incessantly warning that a "66 percent" increase in the state's income tax rate will devastate families and the state's economy. Without any background knowledge on the issue

More state revenue, for example, will help prevent service cuts and layoffs at the 2,000 non-profits owed back payments by their lawmakers in Springfield, which would have a strong ripple effect statewide.

http://www.progressillinois.com/posts/content/2010/08/03/facts-about-illinois-income-tax-rate

What I fine ironic is Wisconsin and other states has the nerve to court Illinois. Even New Jersey Gov.(Pillsbury dough boy) , Chris Christie who says he will personally fly here to lobby companies in Illinois perhaps in lieu of his next trip to Disney World.

They might want to hold off booking their flights to Chicago, though. There is very little evidence that state corporate income taxes have a significant impact on where corporations choose to locate.

Moreover, due to how the Illinois corporate tax works, corporations cannot cut their tax liability by moving facilities out of state.

http://www.offthechartsblog.org/corporations-won't-flee-illinois'-corporate-tax-hike/

New Jersey Gov.(Pillsbury dough boy) , Chris Christie who says he will personally fly here to lobby companies in Illinois perhaps in lieu of his next trip to Disney World.

LOL this ain't no Soprano land. Gov. Dough boy and the rest of the tea bags can't gangster Illinois.

Just ain't gonna happen even if 2/3 of Illinoisans don't want increased taxes.

I think the tax increase will be more appreciated by those who won't lose their jobs.

So there Spank(er),

See how well you can increase your demand in Arizona and keep your sick from Gov Mummy face's Jurassic Park death squad.

You know she got a thing for death.

Illinois is currently a lost cause. They should have reigned in their spending long ago. Policies of the Democrats have created this mess plain and simple. Obviously the only answer by liberals is to call anyone with a different view names. So childish and can't be taken seriously. Prior to the left thrusting Obama into the limelight, most in Illinois had never heard of him....he didn't do anything. The good news for this country, is the involvement of honest, harworking, law abiding, Democrat and Replican people in the tea party movement. May God bless America and bring us all together.

Actually, mine was a dig at Bachamann, but I wouldn't expect everyone to get it....

White girl tries to sound like someone else- sounds stupid, (as ususal) instead.

Ok Drive By, let's pretend yours was not an overtly racist commnet on MLK day. So show us all the quote where she spoke in eubonics like your post.

Bev. I take it your silence with regard to Drive By's post is tacit approval? It's ok to say something like "YO YO YO, what it be like, Mr. Mike?" Good to know your political beliefs trump your purported disgust with racism.

Tisk, tisk to the both of you.

Forgive me for not being on the ball, then. Didn't have to go into work because of the holiday, so I'm in a bit of a haze at the moment. Besides, you ought to know nothing I say should here ever be taken seriously. :p

Spanky: Back the butt-hurt-mobile up a moment! I certainly wasn't calling out Drive By.

...besides. We have a black President. Racism is impossible at this point. XD

Spank, For God's sake, I don't know WHERE the damned dumb quote is, but one hell of a lot of people heard the 'I speak Jive' moment, what- over a year ago? Because I can't point directly to it, it didn't happen? Must be pretty neat (or, just plain pretty??) in your little world.

GIve it a rest already, will you?

"Michael Steele, you da man!", said Michelle Bachmann. No ebonics there?

Sounded Like Yogi Bear.

Listen for yourself & decide!

Keep in mind she made that comment at the CPAC convention (99.9% white) while calling for the overthrow of the U.S. government!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vh-ob24hC5o

Surprised she didn't toss in a 'jive turkey' for good measure!

Come on Drive By, own your comment. Backing down and calling for me to "give it a rest" just doesn't suit you.

I know, it's hard when your glib jives at others unwittingly become overtly racist. But that's what happened. And on MLK day for christ's sake.

So again I am compelled to say: tisk, tisk. But hey, at least you stopped calling me Steve. So thanks for that. :)

Don't give it a rest, then- suit ya' self.

Maybe I can save my old-man brain some hassle, though, and compound you and Steve's names, and just call you 'Stanky'?

But serriously, Spanky- how many people do you employ? How many were on your payroll at the beginning of this quarter?

Spanky, there's a video clip of her saying those exact words at the annual CPAC Convention either this year or last.

I OWE SPANK AN APOLOGY:

OK you are correct about one thing: I work for others for my paycheck.

Sorry to have missed your earlier reply about the headcount, too. I corrected myself on the other thread, and apologize over here, too, because I asked the same question AGAIN.

But- here's your pat on the back. You have a payroll, and are to be commended.

NOW- Imagine for a minute Uncle Sam comes along, and writes you a check for, say, a 4% credit on the taxes you paid last year, and tells you you are also getting that same break in 2011 AND 2012. How many more are you going to add to that 9 by the end of this quarter, or even this year?

Drive By I answered your question twice on the last thread. 9 fulltime, a receptionist I share with suite-mates (1/2) and an independent contractor. Now we know you are an employee, and while no doubt a loyal and hardworking employee, you are not the one who gets the joy and pleasure of negotiating health insurance rates for your non-existant employees.

Yet you keep on keeping on with your "job-killing" nonsense. So as we reflect back on the record that's 1. no employees, 2. no tax LLM or CPA, and 3. certainly no understanding of risk management. If you think about it you have qualification on this topic similiar to the First Read All-Stars Fiesty and Bev.

So go ahead, hit me with another Drive By witty statement. You can call me another name, make fun of me, or take a jab at some conservative you find beneath you or not at your high intellect level. Just try to avoid the obvious racial overtones of your earlier post about Steele. Yes he's black, but even if Michele B. did say something similiar, that does not give you license to spout hate. Right Bev.?

Dazzle me Drive By.

Hey, here's a greater tragedy on MLK day that no one gives a @!$%# about because arguing about pseudo-offensive comments as though racism wasn't one big stupid joke already is somehow more important:

The epic slaughterhouse Tunisia's become this past weekend. Where's the moral outrage on that one, eh?

(truth is you are an employee who has never had to negotiate health insurance coverage for the staff, yet continue to spout off about "job-killing" healthcare).

Spank-

I probably should mention here, that at one time I DID have people I had to negotiate health insurance for. That was a while back, though. The business was a travel agency. It was a start-up going into it's 2nd year, that was rapidly approaching break-even, when the airlines were just beginning to figure out how to screw the agencies out of commisions. A LOT of commissions. We could have borrowed to the hilt, as some other business people suggested, and then declared backruptcy and stuck the creditors with the loss, or we could have closed our doors, and ate the debt ourselves. We chose the latter. We are still paying off the remaining $20,000 out of our own pockets.

Does that make me a bad businessman? A "freeloading" lib? An honest citizen, with some degree of morales? Not sure- you tell me.

I do know I can sleep at night. I also know why I have more than just a little resentment toward greed-based companies like American Airlines and United Air Lines. They get more, the little guys suck hind tit. A lot is never enough.

Anyway, there you go. That's why I'll probably work for somone else until I retire.

But hey, at least I work.

The epic slaughterhouse Tunisia's become this past weekend. Where's the moral outrage on that one, eh?

Is there oil?

Thanks Drive By. I appreciate the comments. And of course all of mine are to be taken with a large grain of salt.

4% would be great. But any discussion on tax saving must focus on the marginal nature of taxation. When I write off an expense I get a benefit, but it is not a 1 to 1 benefit. The $20,000 piece of equipment, even if written off at 100% does not result in a $20,000 tax break. typically it'd be something like $7,200 tax result.

And besides it's big bad Jerrry Brown who's coming to get all of us business owners in Ca. We are doomed.

Is there oil?

....no. No there isn't. And now you've managed to make me answer my own damn question through rhetorical dialogue, @!$%#.

You wily snake, you.

Our paths crossed, it seems.

Anyway- Going back to job-killing HCR. How does adding 30 MILLION people to health care create less jobs? You mean, all the existing employees in the insurance company home offices and all the existing people in the doctor's office are going to handle all that extra processing, with no addional help? 30 MILLION people added to the system??

ALso- if you can hire two new people to handle a big contract you just bid on an won, you are going to turn the job down, because you will have to pay SOME of your income to the insurance company that would cover those 2 new hires? Really??

Spanky-

Alright- this ain't going to work so well- posts keep getting crossed.

My whole point was going to be to try to get you to agree that DEMAND would drive your hiring activity, not tax rates or Health Care Premiums. I do realize, though, that it's likely no one of those stands alone in your business model.

Hell, man- I really think if we were in the same room together, instead of crouched over a keyboard, we might find more common ground than not.

Been to Sfax, Tunisia in 1978. Oil? I don't know about that but there was a whole s$&*t load of sand . . . hmmm, microchips come to mind . . . and little tiny bowls of salsa.

Drive By: I concur with your last point, but such is life when posting on an anonymous board. But it is very entertaining and diversionary.

As for your points on demand and tax rates, the tax rates, being a fixed costs are weighed more heavily in my estimation. That's a combo of my accounting background (conservative/cautious) and my preference to institute routing beatings on the existing staff to get more productivity, which results in more and bigger bottom lines. Sometimes it's good to be the king. Sometimes, not so much.

And the 30 million new folks are going striaght to medicare, which cannot handle them, and cannot afford them. The government is simply incapable of running anything efficiently or at budget.

On that note, Matt, the Justice League is not going to save a bunch of Frenchie ex-colonists for bowls of salsa.

Could they partner with the People's Front of Judea and the Judean People's Front?

Would they still banhammer the Popular Front?

SPLITTERS!!!

....does this mean I have to thank someone for their self-martyrdom, or what?

Depends on who gets to Steele first...the publishing houses or Rupert Murdoch.

That's just wrong in so many ways. So many just can't deal with the concept of a black republican.

Actually no, we do understand the concept; it's called selling yourself out.

You can't honestly be serious.