E-mail updates
Follow on Twitter
Subscribe to RSSA group of conservatives are pushing Indiana Rep. Mike Pence (R-IN) to run for president in 2012.
America's President Committee kicks off today with a signature drive to get Pence, who's popular with social conservatives, to launch a 2012 White House bid.
Behind the group are former Kansas Congressman Jim Ryun and is coordinated by Ralph Benko, a former Reagan deputy counsel, who worked with the Bush administration's White House Office of Faith-based and Community Initiatives.
“Throughout his distinguished career, Mike Pence has demonstrated the ability to enthusiastically advance the cause of conservatives and constitutional, limited government and for that reason I am encouraging him to get in the race,” Mr. Ryun said in a press release.
Benko added, “Mike Pence describes himself as ‘First a Christian, then a conservative, then a Republican.’ He unifies fiscal, social, and national security conservatives, and will energize the conservative coalition essential to winning back The White House in 2012."
The group's Web site, called "The Conservative Champion," is up with its first post, entitled, "America calling Mike Pence…. You are the Conservative Champion. We call you to Serve."
Pence is expected to make a decision by the end of January. It's also possible he runs for governor of Indiana. The response to Pence speeches has given before conservative groups is notable, especially in contrast to other Republicans who are likely to launch bids.
Could the affable former talk-radio host be the Mike Huckabee of the 2012 election?
Remember, however, no one has been directly elected from the House to the White House since James Garfield in 1881.
Leave a Comment:
Another political hack at best !
Good Ol' Mike comes from the eastern side of Indiana, mostly rural, very conservative. Pence calls himself a Christian first. That will deserve some research as he his a creationist and very anti-science. Does not believe in stem-cell research, although great progress is being made in other countries to use stem cells to treat a variety of illnesses.
A conservative, you bet he is. He is a Tea Partier without the hat with tea bags stapled to the brim. A Republican third, well that fits since the Tea Party has gained control of the GOP.
He and Huckabee (and Palin) will have to duke-it-out. Pence may have an outside chance for V-P, but forget the top spot. It ain't gonna happen.
Whether it is renewable energy or stem cell research--religion and anti-science republicans are preventing American progress and costing jobs in the process. We have allowed the personal beliefs of some to interfere with advancements in science and technology because of our nearly 30-year focus on social and cultural wars.
NotBuying this:
We have them in both parties.
Yea and verily, Juven- you speak the truth.
So what! This story is about Pence not about others. Why can't we stay focused and comment on the story. He should run but I think he doesnt have a chance of winning the nomination.
They're gonna need somebody. Palin's imploding at a record pace!
I really should have saved this post for THIS thread, if we are going to talk conservative politicans:
I sincerely hope that the House finally gets past it’s ‘symbolic’ repeal of Health Care Reform very soon and moves on to those things that are REALLY important to Republicans and Conservatives everywhere:
Job-killing Abortion
Job-killing Same-Sex Marriage
Job-killing Legalization of Pot
Job-killing Prayer in School
Job-killing Mosques at Ground Zero
And many, many more. C'mon, Mikey- they are waiting fo you!
I almost forgot one for the captains of industry in this country:
Job-killing Job killing. As in- If I don't have to pay YOU, I can have MORE for ME.
That was an excellent JOB-KILLING point you made.
OK Drive By, I'll acknowledge this post, which you clearly find so damn witty and glib you saw fit to not only re-post it on multiple threads, but also reply to yourself.
All better now? Careful there, you are seriously treading on Fiesty Redhead behavior.
Oh, and while we are at it, please do enlighten us as to all the jobs you have created. We can only assume that you have loads of background in job creation, or even taxation, and therefore are qualified to spout out all of your "job-killing" nonsense. What's that, you don't create anything, but rather work for someone else? YOu don't have an LLM in tax and are not a CPA? Who woulda thunk?
Pretty asinine statement.
Nah, just kill the idea of confiscating the meaning of the word marriage, come up with your word, union/whatever, let the people vote on it and all is cool.
You might have something here. With all the legislators in California evidently being on pot and living the liberal agenda, they haven't created ONE NEW NET JOB in what a decade?
With Obama's liberal big government progressive agenda, Prayer is about the only hope of finding a job.
Yea, asinine again.
No, the real job killer is Obama. HCR, FinRef, destruction of the energy industry, over regulation, etc.
That is the agenda.
What moron does not understand that mandating coverage no one can afford does kill jobs. Higher labor cost means fewer jobs, especially with the destruction of the energy industry and rising fuel cost, etc.
Are you sure you don't want to rephrase that?
bob-1805084
"Pretty asinine statement."
YES it IS! Sound, oh- I don't know......FAMILLIAR in some way??
I'd like to thank you and Steve for rising to the bait, though. You guys are pretty funny some days.
Sorry. I was trying to speak moronese.
" YOu don't have an LLM in tax and are not a CPA? Who woulda thunk?"
Ah, but there's the rub- never said I did. BUT- as long as you are on that track, tell us this: how many people do YOU now employ? I'm serrious- If it's any at all, I will be pleased to pat you on the back and give credit where credit is due. How many, Steve?
Good one Drive-By. I love it when you get under the skin of the folks on the right.
It's pretty neat, too, Job1 that you can always tell when it worked. They come out like a bunch of hornets that the mower just threw a rock through.
drive-by,
Yea, you're a real master baiter.
(Sorry Feisty, but I'm pretty sure that was Guizot)
@bob - You're welcome.
Gosh Drive By, those were my commnets (I know it can be hard to focus when you are all over the place posting your "job-killing" pithy statements on multiple threads.
Oh, and because you said you'd pat me on the head and give credit, cause getting credit from anyone here in MSNBC-land will make me warm and fuzzy: 9 and 1/2 full time, one current independent contractor.
So, you like apples Drive By? Or is it Job Killing Drive By? And hey how about them gas prices?
Come on Drive and Da Noid, I expect and enjoy Bev.'s basic inability to read, but you two? The word NOT was not contained in bob's comment Da Noid. The point was very clear. And Drive By calling out Steve for my comments. Your turn.
???????????
You smoking the same sh*t that Loughner guy was smoking?
Apples? Gas Prices?? WTF???
But- I have to admit, you are not Steve. Now that I worked that out, how many people do YOU employ, Spank?
As noted in my post: 9 fulltime, a receptionist I share (1/2) and one independent contractor.
Apples? You know the one where you call me (or in this case Steve) out, I answer, and now you give the credit you discussed above. Dem apples. Gas prices? Your handle is Drive By. You Drive By the gas station lately?
So again, your turn Drive By. Or maybe you want to stop now? I sense that your response will not be all that fun (truth is you are an employee who has never had to negotiate health insurance coverage for the staff, yet continue to spout off about "job-killing" healthcare). But do try to make it witty.
Nope- you are correct. I work for others for my paycheck.
Sorry to have missed the headcount, too. I need to get over to the Steele posting page, and apologixe over there, too, because I asked the same question AGAIN.
But- here's your pat on the back. You have a payroll, and are to be commended. NOW-
Imagine for a minute Uncle Sam comes along, and writes you a check for, say, a 4% credit on the taxes you paid last year, and tells you you are also getting that same break in 2011. How many more are you going to add to that 9 by the end of this quarter, or even this year?
Well you want to be congratulated for doing what it takes to make you more money. You hire no one just because they need a job. You hire them because they fill a need you have and when they dont provide the service that you need you'll let them go. So its not like youre providing charity to anyone. You hire them because youre making a profit from their labor. So dont get all self righteous youre not being altruistic but your motives are simple Profit! Evidently you have some capable employee's since you spend so much of your time here posting instead of watching over your payroll.
Drive by - nicely done. Especially since that job-creating tax thing has now been fixed!!!!!!!
Good one Bob. Spot on.
However you wish to look at the 2012 Presidential elections these are the choices you will have:
1) Corporate selected Republican candidate
2) Corporate selected Democrat candidate
3) Unelectable other
You really have no choice and it's time people acknowledge that fact.
Obama, once re-elected, can throw off his corporate bonds and obligations. He can be who he was waiting for! Maybe?
Wasn't he divorced? According to my conservative values handbook that is an abomination to the Lord.
Can someone please explain to me why these people don't seem to care if their politicians actually walk the walk?
Your handbook is correct, Charles. You may have just missed the disclaimer at the very back, in very fine print that says, basically: "these admonisions and caveats only apply to the OTHER guys, as God is clearly on OUR side".
Our political discourse will be vastly improved when both parties stop treating the Presidency as a prize that you can "win".
I have no problem with Mike Pence being first a Christian, then a conservative then a republican but he wasn't very fiscally responsible from 2001 through 2006; he voted yes on all those GOP unfunded bills, two wars, etc. without a thought to the damage done to our national debt, to our children or grandchildren's future. What I do have a problem with is making religion a political football. There are democrats who are strong believers, equally faithful, spiritual, dedicated to their religion and we do not hear the "religion first" as part of their political discussion. Social issues are personal issues and should be left outside the realm of politics.
Just what exactly defines a national security conservative? I can make some good assumptions. Does that mean small-government national security with little impact? Pour every dime we can into the military industrial complex (never mind the rest of our needs) conservative? Or does it mean the neoconservative view of America overthrowing every dictator or ruler we don't like?
Good Afternoon Jody:
Great questions! It will be fun to watch the National media interview Mike. Pence was on Hardball about 2 years ago and Matthews tried to tie him down relative to his beliefs in science. It was fun to watch...and an embarrassment to us Hoosiers. He is into small government, but I don't know what he means by a national security conservative.
Jody, I seem to recall a number of politicians who first voted for the war funding, before being against the war. Have you forgotten that? And did you forget that Congress, who was Democratically controlled at the time, passed the legislation?
I agree with you that religion should be kept out of the equation, as should RACE.
But however we look at this fellow, it will be interesting to see the politican lies thrown his way by the left leaning media who controls what is heard or read in the country.
"Pour every dime we can into the military industrial complex (never mind the rest of our needs) conservative? Or does it mean the neoconservative view of America overthrowing every dictator or ruler we don't like?"
Both I would guess, they seem to go hand in hand, they have to justify spending all that money on the military. What better way can that be done than constantly being at war? Doesn't matter much who with or why, just keep spending and blowing things up, it's an America tradition.
The last fiscally responsible Republican President was Gerald Ford.
safecracker. No, I have not forgotten that politicians of both parties voted for the war in Afghanistan (not as many dems) but as the republicans like to point out (regardless the facts don't support the claim), it is the GOP who claims to be fiscally responsible, they're the ones running on it in every campaign--they're the ones preaching tax cuts and spending cuts and fiscal responsibility; therefore, they are dishonest. I will also remind you that even John McCain said that cutting taxes while fighting wars was irresponsible.
Jody and safecracker, let's also not forget that the intelligence that the Bush administration showed to Congress to get the vote was cooked to get that vote. They voted for the authority based on lies by the Bush administration.
Let us also remember that the vote was to authorize only the ability to prepare to invade as a last resort and that the administration was supposed to return to Congress before invading to show that everything else had been tried and failed. It was actually supposed to be two tracked; 1) keep up diplomatic efforts and inspections, 2) prepare for an invasion only if track 1 was not working. It was kind of hard to make track 1 work when there was no effort made.
ARGH! When will my party affiliation of default learn to go where it matters- Fiscal conservative first, last and always. Social issues tend to work themselves out of we stop fighting with each other for unrealistic all or nothing deals. Worry about the financial house and the rest will sort it out. I won't vote for or against any candidate because of his or her stance on social issues but we do not need another Bush-brand social conservative who spends like a drunk democrat!
I agree Suzy on the social issues, they don't impact the pocketbook. But you are mistaken about democrats being the irresponsible spenders--why do you think the GOP calls them tax and spend? They pay for what they do except for emergencies such as great recession economic times.
As much as I'd like to buy what you're attempting to sell, Jody, the reality is Pay-Go is an utter and complete joke. By writing themselves the "emergency clause" Congress pretty much ensured they would never adhere to their own policy because they simply have to declare whatever pet project they're looking to fund an emergency measure and spend away. And to say "they pay for what they do" is something of a stretch- WE pay for what they do. Now, if you want to call them Spend then Tax democrats, I could see an argument for that being closer to accurate- because first they spend more than they take in, then they try to raise taxes to fill in the hole they've dug with the spending. And as you might have guessed from my comment on Bush, I fully accept and agree that he was no better. Which is why I'm tired of the republican's fixating on social rather than fiscal.
Perfectly said, Suzy.
Why thank you!
Glad to know that the Republican Tea Partiers are on a roll. They are one real Bad Batter's Tea Party with a
lot of potential for America. What say you Dems? But don't worry , I forgive you for all the black
propaganda done recently. Let's hope next time there is enough evidence to act on before we go rolling
down a slippery slope.
bob-1805084
No, the real job killer is Obama. HCR, FinRef, destruction of the energy industry, over regulation, etc.
=============================
Sooooo, let's assume for a moment all of the things you mentioned above are 'job killers'. What exactly happened to all of the job creating, prosperous making policies of the previous Administration had in place to have millions of jobs lost prior to the 08 election..let alone the President taking office in January 09?
Spanky-
As noted in my post: 9 fulltime, a receptionist I share (1/2) and one independent contractor.
Question: Are they all employed in the U.S.? What companies have been doing is taking the tax breaks and creating jobs...overseas. I have no problem with companies that decide to create jobs overseas but you should not be getting or using our tax money to create those jobs overseas. It's un-american, deceitful and corrupt but continues on and on. By the way the Republicans voted against eliminating those tax breaks. Tell me that they care about middle class Americans.
This scum bag voted to fund both wars and all he other GOP crap ....HE LIES !!!
Vitriol Alert.
I would never vote for anyone whom is not first an American.
I watched Dick Cheney on an inteview last night. This man is close to death, being kept alive practically by a machine that he has to walk around with. and yet, all he can think about is Obama, and make nasty comments. What a shame for him.
The scoundrel sold his soul to the devil 35 years ago. When you are personally responsible for the deaths of 2,979 of your fellow civilian citizens, you've sealed your fate with Satan.
Personally responsible for 2,979 deaths? Must have missed that one. What people don't like about Cheney is he tells it like it is.
You were to "Never forget 9/11, was an inside job brought to you by Cheney and Co."