milk man what will you wait to see. would you like to see more people shot? would you like to see all gays put on the moon? more blacks dragged down the street in chains on the back of a truck?? When will Americans wake up to all the evil that is around us..the becks the hannity's the o'reilly the rush...

this country is for you and me and anyone who wants to be an American, not just the Republicans who wish to control everyone

So milkman you wait and see and i will vote to give all there freedoms

I knew they would elect a white guy.

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I knew they would elect a white guy.

Was there another black guy?

Still playing the blame game even when it made you look ridiculous last week, and the race card, means nothing since you have used it as your mantra for two years. pathetic

Poor Michael, used and abused

It's "the eyes are the windows of the soul", not the mirrors.

How do you expect anyone to take you seriously when you say stupid s--t like that..?

Art Politics Philosophy beliefs raise the foodstamp rate Agriculture Physics Medicine foodstamp a benefit but a benefit that can attract money buy sell Democrat Republican America The World Daily medical coverage when it is needed as prescribed by a Doctor America a place to be visit the world. A new position holder Michael Steele long time chairman has stepped down

Fact is this is a contest,under Steele the repulicans lost a lot until recently there where a lot of tea party wins. its about time for a change and i think the R. party will win much more with a more aligned and stronger agenda, might even win the white house if they can pic a good candidate for a change.

The republican partys' problem is not race (I'm a American Independent, Black), as in all competitions, it's about styles, matchups, I know who can give the good fight and it's not any of the present favorites. I'm sorry this is all the help I can give, as an Independent I must remain as neutral as possible. 2012, this is going to be a very good show.

Its funny how people scream Hannity, Beck and Limbaugh are responsible for so much! They just speak their opinion like every one on these websites do. The Arizona shooter was a grown man that knew right from wrong and is solely responsible for his actions. He was crazy every one is saying but he was sane enough to buy , load and use a firearm and sane enough to plan it!

So another religious nut taking charge. Interesting that he thanks god and jesus. Not only does that show how dopey he is, but it's like saying god anointed him. Sick, perverse, perfect for the GOP.

Republicans stand for empowering the individual. Democrats stand for empowering the group. Educate yourself. Read Ayn Rand (conservative book) and then read the communist manifesto (liberal book). Whatever path you choose is fine but you will either be a empowering the individual through private property or empowering the group by limiting private property. As far as the original comment about republicans wanting to control everyone. Control is sought by anyone in power. They are hand in hand. Power corrupts absolute power corrupts absolutely. There in lies the genius of the fragmented, disjointed, and beautiful government we as americans have. Empower yourself! Educate yourself. Stand by your values not by your party.

thanx eric very empowering words to live by!

Democrats are not selfish , they care for every citizen- the weak, the strong, the sick, the rich and the poor thru the government by the people. The government is not our enemy. One of the reasons America is great is because of its government. America 's worst enemies are the Sarah Palins,Glen becks and the Rush Limbaughs who are exploiting the citizens of this great nation through division and making millions in the process.

Eric - open your eyes dude. The only people the republicans empower is the rich. Name one thing the republicans have done to empower anyone but the rich. I also like the fact that you compared Ayn Rand's tripe to the communist manifesto, that's classic. That's like me saying either you agree with Bill Clinton or you agree with Mussolini. You do understand that Fascism is the extreme right of the political spectrum. Maybe you should try re-thinking your whole argument, I think it would be for the best.

Did they employ the NFL Rooney Rule?

I suspect that long after Michael Steele's mostly harmless gaffes are forgotten, he'll primarily be remembered for the historic Democratic defeat in the 2010 midterms...53 incumbent House Democrats defeated, two more in the Senate.

During his tenure, the House Of Representatives flipped to Republican control with the addition of 63 GOP seats; a total of 7 (counting Scott Brown) Republican seats were added in the Senate...including President Obama's former Illinois seat.

This month, the new House members for the 112th Congress were sworn in; 87 Republicans, only 9 Democrats.

If Michael Steele is to be judged on measurable electoral results...

He did very well indeed.

That's the sensible reason for Democrats to be glad he's gone...the rest is just mean-spirited nonsense.

Reince Priebus ... yeah, sounds like a silver spoon Republican. He'll fit in great. Let's cut taxes 2 percent across the board to celebrate.

Beverly in Chicago Comment collapsed by the community

Bullies, they sure know how to dish it out; but can't take it; right Crystal?

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Still playing the blame game even when it made you look ridiculous last week, and the race card, means nothing since you have used it as your mantra for two years. pathetic

ridiculous and pathetic last week????

Look in the mirror Dolly. The eyes are the mirror of the soul.

There is nothing you can say to me. Are you a tea bagger????

The reason I ask is because they, like you, seem to have problems with realities and what century we're living in. Ugggh, those ridiculous colonial costumes and tea bags affixed to them. Crazy!!!

What an intelligent comment. Does it contain any usefull information?

And by the way isn't Hillary the Ice Queen.

Don't be mad at the GOP because the Dems lost seats blame Obama and his health care plan. He already apologized for it so you can't say it wasn't the reason.

So go watch the Dems as I am sure they are not boring to you.

Yeah, Pelosi is sooooo photogenic, lol

Yes! "young republican" is simply a euphemism for "virgin"

People with limited or no comprehensive ability,and in their self-serving beliefs mistakenly thinks that PRESIDENT O'bama apologized for fighting medical corporations continuous greed and fleecing of americans while limiting the amount/frequency of needed treatment. You're positively wrong in that thought! He apologized to his party for attacking that feat before attacking the JOBS agenda first. Albeit, he said that the people had spoken and he'd re-think his course.For political reason,he won't say it,but he knows as well do I, that the vitriol/Nov.2,2010 results were due to the same people that did not vote for him in the 2008 election and some straddle-the-fence GOPS that calls themselves Independents when it suits their fancy. Democrats do not turn-out for mid-term elections enmasse. The heat was there from day one and it had/has very little to do with the white house policies— makes no difference what no one says,it was/is because of who the President is! The rhetoric/vitriol comes from GOPs and polls gobble the slanted propaganda without listing the variables. For instance:Newsmax.com released a survey poll on 1-12-2011,on this question: "Who did you vote for in 2008? The results:McCain-Palin>148,942 (76.58%); Other>17,192 (8.84%); Obama-Biden>28,364 (14.58%). Now common sense tells a literate person two things:(1) that the majority of the people polled were GOPs_not Democrats— and that Democrats doesn't participate enmasse in mid-term elections, and (2) that the Democrats do not get all heated-up with vitriol over the internet but will be there when the general election comes.

forwhatitsworth

Same kind of funny name as Barack Obama -- some kind of 'foreign compact'

Where is your civility??

Michael Steele for President!

As far as attractiveness, the Republican women beat the Demonrats (er Democrats) hands down. Pelosi at least tries. Good thing she's got a rich hubby, need to keep the manufacturers of Botox in the money. (She always looks like Jack Nicholson in Batman after he fell into that vat of acid with that smirk of hers.) Then there is Sonya Sotomayor and Elena Kagan. Two sure winners in a beauty pageant, aren't they? What can you say about Hillary? Not too shabby for 63. Getting more like a good ship lately though. I could go on but some might think I'm not being civil. Oh well...................

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Still all of those women you mentioned would win a beauty contest against Jan Brewer (aka Rupie Murdoch) any day of the week. Don't forget that you rethugs also have Sharia Law-Angle, Michele "Petrified" Backwards 2 beauty queens not. Also you have the brain trust of Failin Palin & Crusty O'Donnell. Between all of them they don't possess the brain power that any of the women you mentioned has in the tip of her little toe.

seriously , you're going to argue about who has the better LOOKING pols?

I'm voting for Hugh Hefner then.

It'll just be at least two more years of the same tired GOP refrain:

"All gays are evil and gay marriage will DESTROY America"

"Tax cuts for the rich will SAVE America"

"Ours is a CHRISTIAN nation"

"Unions make everyone poor"

"Atheists and Gays have no morals"

Same playbook. Same hate. Lighter skin pigmentation.

Indigo..sounds like your halo is tarnished. Got some bones to pick? Lemme guess, your a gay, slutty, athiest? haha just kiddin...

I agree.

He added, "The Democrats have taken this country on the wrong path."

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Seems the rethuglicants just don't get it. Yes the Dems have their share of the blame but the rethugs, esp. the eight years of bush/cheney, have done far more to set us on the wrong path.

When will people realize that we got here going back through many Administrations. Both GOP and Dem. Wake up and look at history. The middle class has always done better when the Houses are divided. We always lose when one party has total control.

Get over yourself and check history.

wheb will you stop blaming the the Bush / cheney,when the dem. have had control; of the house and congress

This country is not in trouble because of the Dems and Republicans; its in trouble due to the greed of those controlling the wealth who continue to get rich. Wake up; many of our jobs are overseas; I guess they are when you can pay someone 50 cents to call and harass you everyday. Those in positions of power have a stake in the continuing fights among the masses. We were No. #1 when we ALL stood together. Somewhere along the line, people stopped caring about others and started looking out for themselves. When everyone in the country was fighting each other, the rich stole the "eggs from the henhouse"! SUCKERS!!!!

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wheb will you stop blaming the the Bush / cheney,when the dem. have had control; of the house and congress

What really happened in the Reagan "revolution? Get z facts.

We Are in Danger! ... but Not from the Debt

September 12, 2010. The danger is from self-styled radical "conservatives" who ran up the debt during good times and want to pay if off in bad times. (Even more dangerous—a lot of Democrats are buying this too.) Of course, they all mean well. But the road to hell is still paved with good intentions. Close to 10 million Americans are out of work, and tea-party "patriots" want to cut spending—that means cutting jobs

http://zfacts.com/p/461.html

Contrary to Republican claims, "The Democratic Congress" did not bust Reagan's budgets. In fact, for the first six years, Congress was not Democratic, it was half and half, and the Republican Senate had just as much say, even though the budget bill starts in the House. On top of that, Reagan got the Southern Democrats to vote with him and so he controlled the House too.

http://zfacts.com/p/57.html

Indigo--very cool post

Beverly, ahhh - you do dig a little deeper - when it's convenient!

The Democrats held a strong control of the House. What that means is that all spending bills started there. Reagan's budget was declared DOA. They were afraid to Reagan vetoed 2 budget forcing the shut down of the Fed TWICE. This is because the House refused to do the dollar spending cut for every dollar of tax cut. Reagan knew they didn't have the votes to over ride those two times - kind of like what Clinton did to Newt Gingerich in 1995 over the 1996 Budget. Congress finally went to $.33 per $1.00 of tax cuts.

It was still a win for the Democrats - they've gotten nearly 30 years of mileage out of "tax cuts for the rich" and "Reagan's huge deficits because of the tax cuts" - even though they were the ones who wrote the budget.

It was still a win for the Democrats - they've gotten nearly 30 years of mileage out of "tax cuts for the rich" and "Reagan's huge deficits because of the tax cuts" - even though they were the ones who wrote the budget.

Transcriber the truth gets in your way. Reaganomics didn’t trickle down. Under Reagan the government spent more than it took in. Isn't that why GWH Bush inherited a defict and despite his "read my lips" statement had to raise Taxes?

The 1982 budget was not easy for Reagan; but he got what he wanted. 217 to 210, with 29 Democrats(Dixiecrats) breaking party ranks to give Ronald Reagan a narrow victory. that was a test vote.

Read more: http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,922584-1,00.html#ixzz1BGIMP9db

the Administration's bill, reducing the growth in social spending substantially, passed 217 to 211

Read more: http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,922584-4,00.html#ixzz1BGLkYEZT

All that you allude to existed only on paper. I think somehow you claim to be an independent. The way to fool and mislead the public-- is to say the republicans were crippled??? The smudged hands of the Republicans wrote laws too. Who by the way, were the majority and heavily financed by lobbyist. As you can see the deck was/is stacked in the house. The republicans embraced austerity for the middle class then and now and riches and prosperity for the top 2% of society with privileged circumstances due the Reagan and Bush 2 tax cuts. Bush’s tax cuts cost $2.5 trillion—with the majority of that cash going into the pockets of the top of the rung. (off shore tax havens)

These are the same republicans whoooo want to let the tax cuts for the rich continue—at a cost of one trillion dollars over the next decade if the richest were still given their breaks. And it’s a total of $3.1 trillion over the next decade if all the tax cuts stayed in place.

My conclusion: Invade the Caymans rotten fruit only makes one drunk.

Reince Priebus is his name.

Take out the vowels and look what you get:

RNC PR BS - Which is what he will spew!! Appears his parents named him for this job!

meede1, that observation was just incredible, can't believe it.

Thanks runion but I can't take credit. A friend sent it to me.

I'm hoping it makes it's rounds as he has a new name! Just call him the RNC PR BS'er!!

Well meedez, it looks like it's your friend that needs a life. (Or maybe just a job.)

On subject. I like Michael Steele and hope he sticks around making life miserable for the Democrats. Maybe a run in 2012 could really tick off a lot of the liberals. Think of what it would do to the so-called minority vote that Obama is constantly courting.

I like Michael Steele and hope he sticks around making life miserable for the Democrats. Maybe a run in 2012 could really tick off a lot of the liberals. Think of what it would do to the so-called minority vote that Obama is constantly courting.

Good idea...he can run as Failin Palin's VP...LMAO!!! The ticket could be called Dumb and Dumber...2012!

Priebus thanking Jesus for helping him win should really help Jewish and Muslim* citizens feel more comfortable joining the big tent GOP. (*And Hindu and Buddhist and atheist and...)

Priebus thanking Jesus for helping him win should really help Jewish and Muslim* citizens feel more comfortable joining the big tent GOP. (*And Hindu and Buddhist and atheist and...)

How dare him!!! Doesnt he know, we are now officially a muslim country??

Damn strait!

It's so annoying to hear politicians "thanking" God for winning something; as if God picked them over someone else or God actually cares about such stupid sh*t. Absolutely hysterical.

I thought about buying a Priebus but decided to wait for the electric model as opposed to the hybrid.

Sorry sandtrich, but I can one up ya on the name!

Reince Priebus is his name. Take out the vowels and look what you get:

RNC PR BS - Which is what he will spew!!

YAWN................................. sorry meedez. You were saying................ again?

meede---both you and I have proven that we have too much time on our hands. Peace

I don't listen to Rush but I also know people love to jump before facts. And even when the facts come out they don't either take the time to read or educate about it. And I seriously think half the nation slept through their psychology 101 class.

Newdaydawning..you must be from p-ville. ANY healthcare would be a step up for you guys! On the "new plan" most of those local docs. will be outta there!!

However, you have one thing right, and that is that mental illness is certainly to blame for this recent tragedy, not Sarah Palin or Oprah(pretty much spans the whole gammit doesn't it?) or anybody else.
This poor boy was young and off his rocker! We need to look at what is happening to our young people in this country and start thinking of their future instead of being a bunch of adults who are just living for ourselves for the moment.

Get a grip and stop playing the "blame game" America. The first place to start is with the person in the mirror.

Newday, I hope that you don't mind educating me; what violent imagery have you seen?

Thanks.

NDD, Nicely stated. One thing I definitely have to agree with you on is the mental health issue. Instead of talking about gun control, we should be talking about helping the mentally ill. And I agree, we shouldn't stigmatize it. I seriously think there very well may be some gun owners struggling through psychological issues, who are actually discouraged from seeking help for fear that they could lose their gun rights. Rather than focusing on keeping dangerous things from these people, we should be focused on helping these people and bring them back to society. Think about it, the Tuscon "nut case" could have just as easily killed and injured as many people by crashing into the crowd with a large SUV.

The problem is that we write people off as "nut cases" and allow their delusional worlds to just grow around them. Next week the House will be voting to repeal health care, some of which would have provided at least some opportunity for mentally troubled individuals to get the help they need. Guns didn't cause the tragedy nor did right wing dangerous rhetoric. I believe these were both contributors and may have somewhat shaped the actions of the individual, but the source cause was mental illness. You'd think that if Congress focused on the mental health aspects of this, it would be much harder to create a division on partisan lines. Maybe there's an opportunity here where both sides could work together. This is what we in the public should be demanding.

Personally I think we probably already have enough gun control laws that frankly don't work all that well anyway. And yes I think the right wing "ballistic based" rhetoric is very dangerous and totally inappropriate for political debate. I've been around for more than a little while and never in my lifetime have I seen or heard this kind of rhetoric used by politicians in campaigns until the last two years. That kind of rhetoric tended to be confined to Nazi groups, white supremacists, the Klan and radical fringe groups. Interestingly enough, much of it was associated with recognized racist groups, both black and white. Maybe that history that I have lived through is part of why I see it as so dangerous now. I'd much rather see us get back to plain name calling, questioning people's intelligence or morality. Just keep the violence suggestive language out of it. Let's get back to sports metaphors and keep guns out of it.

As for Mr. Steele, I'll agree he has been entertaining. What's been ironic about Steele is he often seemed like the only Republican voice who wasn't staying up with their talking points. Bottom line, the position isn't really a policy forming role anyway. It's just the face of the messenger and a cheerleader. Personally, I don't think he was originally chosen so much for those skills, and I'll leave it at that. Don't know much about Mr. Priebus, but I'm sure we will have some fun with his name!

"New Day"...yep, a new day of the same 'ol, same 'ol...blaming everyone and anything for the tragic actions of a madman...who acted on his own sick, twisted mind-dreams. No one and nothing except his own brain chemistry caused this. Nothing anyone said or didn't say, caused it or could have stopped it. You don't 'get it' do you? NOTHING ANYONE SAID CAUSED THIS! It was what HE was hearing in his OWN HEAD that caused it. He was SICK...and you can't stop a lone wolf madman. No one can. Leave it be, and stop blaming anyone but his own illness. If you MUST blame, blame that someone didn't have him committed long before. The left and the right have been talking for years..does it make YOU want to go out and shoot people? No SANE person is acting on these things...and no ILL person like this tragic mentally ill person, is even listening to what the left or right is saying..they are listening only to the disconnected thoughts in their chemically twisted brains...and schizophrenia is a chemical imbalance...I KNOW this because I've worked with people with this insidious disease...it's very sad...and he is a text-book case...the actions, his age...everything adds up to him having schizophrenia...of course I haven't worked with him...but from what I'm hearing, he fits all the criteria..and they don't even LISTEN to the radio...which he has apparently admitted he DIDN'T! They believe the radio waves are coming out of the air and entering their brains...their own BRAINS are 'radios'...come on...get real, and do a little research before you play the blame game...even if he had been on medication, there is no way to make sure they TAKE it...once they feel better, they believe they don't need it anymore and will stop...I've seen it happen again and again...the only way to keep the world safe from those with this disease, is to either lock them up...which I don't want to do...or have a person with them, a caretaker, who makes sure they take their medication and take it REGULARLY and on schedule...a better idea...they CAN live with this horrible disease...but only if they take their medication..and he wasn't ON any...yes, there are some where medications don't work..but no one even TRIED with this poor guy...and I DO feel sorry for him, because he'll no doubt get the death penalty as soon as they give him medication so he understands what he's done...make him well, so they can kill him, instead of making him well so this wouldn't have happened...it's all a tragedy.

Thank you for your most interesting response, 1NewDay. We have many areas of agreement. Here is the problem that I see. If you have someone spinning into a psychosis, I doubt his worry is his gun rights. Keep in mind that he thinks he is sane, and the rest of us are crazy. It is more incumbent on those around a person who is showing increasing signs of delusional thinking to run, not walk, to the nearest mental health center to find out how to get help. I also think that there has to be a reasonable way to keep guns out of the hands of the mentally ill, and I am sure that you do too. That seems like a reasonable limit to Second Amendment rights. I have also been around awhile, and I honestly NEVER thought I would see people carrying guns out in the open at political rallies. A prudent person might ask is it to threaten people out of debate, to make a statement of intent if policy does not go they way they want it to? Why would anyone do that? I would imagine that people in the vicinity of a person with a gun will now look around to see where their family or friends are and leave. I know I would. What happens to the First Amendment right to peacefully assemble? Does the Second Amendment that talks about the right to bear arms override the First Amendment right to assemble? One would think not given the order the Founders put them in. Further, if there are layers of protections placed around elected officials, doesn't that take them a step further away from the people they are supposed to represent? It seems strange to me that the Republican party has not considered that if they repeal the Health Care bill, that parity between mental health and physical health will be lost. This should serve as a tragic reminder as to why that coverage is necessary. As to the rest of it? I don't know 1NewDay, one would think that people would listen to Limbaugh and begin to question if he uses the best judgment and why he is on the air. Beck too, especially since he has had 3 people who have attempted acts of violence saying that they listen to him. Let's hope our better angels prevail.

Hiya NDD - Looks like you've managed to draw quite a fan club yourself!

Remember - every picnic attracts mosquito's! ;o)

As for James Lee and his question regarding violent imagry - please feel free to check this out:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/04/16/10-most-offensive-tea-par_n_187554.html

The one about Jews in the Oven is a real knee slapper isn't it? Maybe the one about sucking on Saudi Jewels is more your cup of tea?

And save us the bullsh!t about Huffington Post being a lefty website - the tea baggers want to be LOUD then let them be PROUD of their handi-work!

*pops champagne cork* Now? NDD will you please join me with a glass of bubbly?

We earned it! ;o)

Give it up ndd you poor little minion. Didn't you hear your messiah say that WASN'T the reason. sheesh

This guy was a nut and he would have shot someone eventually. This is where his head brought him and it was a crime of opportunity. And the nonsense of gun control he would have gone out on the street and bought one if the gun store didn't sell it to him.

To keep blaming big mouth radio personalities has nothing to do with what this guy did.

And to keep blaming the people and the GOP is ridiculous. And by that standard we should blame the Dems when Hinkley shot Reagan.

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Give it up ndd you poor little minion. Didn't you hear your messiah say that WASN'T the reason. sheesh

messiah? Pleuzzzse, you just asked me...

"Still playing the blame game even when it made you look ridiculous last week, and the race card, means nothing since you have used it as your mantra for two years. pathetic"

Now who looks ridiculous and pathetic within a few minutes?

This is why it's been said some on the right and tea baggers have a reptilian brain.

Right...."words matter" such as Giffords saying ......"Palin has crosshairs on our district....there ARE CONSEQUENCES for that"....BEFORE ANY violence happened? Perhaps....SHE INCITED THE VIOLENCE? Seriously? Noone is mentioning the FACT....she BEGAN the screaming over "civility"when there was NO ISSUE.....I would take what Gifford's said AS A THREAT.....but noone mentioned that did they ?

They found a note in this madman's locked safe in his parents basement dated back to 2007....he had been stalking this woman FOR YEARS .......WAY BEFORE.....Sarah took the stage, WAY BEFORE the Tea Party...and WAY BEFORE.....any chart with alledged "bullseyes" on it...... This guy was a mental case PLAIN AND SIMPLE.....

People who knew him SAID HE WAS NOT POLITICAL.....ALL OF THEM.....other than have some odd views which leaned more LEFT than right.....and THOSE CAME FROM MOVIES......and COMMUNIST BOOKS......

NEWDAY.....Please NAME the "3 people who have committed acts of violence claming they listened to Rush Limbaugh"......IF YOU CANNOT NAME THEM.....dont spew lies here. Cause....interestingly enough.....I listen to ALL TYPES OF NEWS and online too....and have NEVER heard of this ? And I dont think you are some rocket scientist that "knows stuff noone else knows" ......seriously ?

This Congresswoman's OWN family has BLAMED INNOCENT PEOPLE in this tragedy....spreading hate and lies.....BUT.....NEVER MIND THAT ? I dont care if you are grieving or not.....YOU DONT BLAME INNOCENT PEOPLE JUST CAUSE YOUR OWN FAMILY IS HURTING.......AND AT BEST IF YOU DO ......YOU APOLOGIZE WHEN YOU FIND OUT THEY HAD ABSOLUTELY ......NOTHING .......TO DO WITH IT !!!!!!!!!!!!!

The Democrats spew HATE ALL THE TIME......NOTHING IS SAID ABOUT THAT......its called "free speech". They wish people dead.....Rush, Sarah, and the list goes on and on......BUT THEY ARE THE FIRST ONES TO CLAIM "HATE SPEECH" ????

I cannot remember ALL of them.....but Obama began it when suddenly those who disagreed with him were "bible clinging, gun totting, small town, racists" of course he used a "big word" hoping we wouldnt figure out he had called us racists......but some of us hillbillies weren't as dumb as he thought.

People were called "astroturf".....we were told we "could sit in the back".....a leftist comedian wished Rush Limbaugh's kidneys would fail.......they wished that Sarah had been on the plane and not Ted Stevens......THE LIST GOES ON AND ON.......

DEMOCRATS HAVE SPREADED MORE THAN THEIR FAIR SHARE OF HATE........AND THEY HAVE CALLED FOR AND INCITED VIOLENCE OVER AND OVER.......

I guess.....there were not Black Panthers at the voting polls with CLUBS either ? Nope that wasn't hate.....they were just there to SHOW SOME LOVE ?

Obama and the Democrats have RAMMED THRU bills people DID NOT WANT.....they have CALLED NAMES and INCITED VIOLENCE SINCE DAY ONE .........and YET.....Obama holds some "Obama Love Fest" and wants everyone to be "civil" ??????

WHY DONT THESE PEOPLE LEAD BY EXAMPLE ? CAUSE THEY SURELY DONT ???? AND A MAJORITY OF THEM DOING IT ....IS BEING PAID BY OUR TAX DOLLARS TO CALL US NAMES ?

Obama has DIVIDED this country MORE than ANY PRESIDENT IN HISTORY.....he has brought NOONE TOGETHER.....AND CONTINUES TO DO SO. His administration BULLIES THE PEOPLE into accepting his policies that NOONE WANTS.....and IF THAT DOESNT WORK......by giving them "guilt trips" calling them racists or whatever.....THEN HE SHOVES THEM DOWN OUR THROATS ANYWAYS.....hides them in 2,000 page bills or EVER WHAT HE HAS TO DO.

THEN they expect people to NOT be angry? NOT speak out? AND YET.....to their DISMAY....the people that DO THE VIOLENCE.....ARE ON THEIR SIDE OF THE FENCE....NOT the people they are shoving around and calling names ? WHEN THEY FIND THAT OUT......they blame the others anyhow ?

Everything that happens WRONG in America is NOT Sarah Palin's or the Tea Party's fault......AND .....This ENTIRE administration HAVE SPREADED MORE "HATE" THAN anyone in HISTORY.....

If you want "everyone to just get along".......PERHAPS YOU SHOULD LOOK IN YOUR OWN MIRRORS AND START WITH YOU ?

Spread the love and pass the Tshirts with the "campaign" slogans on them......never mind that people died at the hands of a mentally deranged person......."Lets not waste a GOOD CRISIS" .......and use it to our political advantage and try and make this a campaign rally......

Never mind the chanting on "Obama, Obama" at the "Memorial Service".....after all....He IS God isnt he ? Afterall that won't sound too bad.....or the applause either.....NOONE WILL SEE ITS DISRESPECTFUL TO THOSE WHO DIED AT THE HANDS OF A MADMAN.......after all....ITS ALL ABOUT OBAMA RIGHT ?

By the way.....I am gonna fire the person who FORGOT to bring in my $650,000 Greek Columns for the stage and the pyrotechnics.......were they being used for ANOTHER MOVIE SET THAT NIGHT ?

Just sayin.......

Loughner is crazy, yes. He isn't deaf. He isn't blind. he was politically involved enough to vote twice and to get in contact, personally, with Gabby Giffords in 2007. He watched "Zeitgeist" on the internet. Do that and you can't help but become politically energized. Watch "I.O.U.S.A." and you will be thinking we need to do something differently.

If he is crazy now, and was crazy when he shot first, a conservative Democrat, and 19 others. The medications they give him to cure his "crazy" later, aren't going to allow us to execute him. That is a conservative pipe dream, hoping this will all go away. When he starts talking, you will cover your ears, and hope to have him silenced, even if it requires violence to get it done.

Hi, Feisty: Yep, that post was a win, don't you think? Seriously, I can't help but wonder why people want to make excuses for what passes for dialogue from Beck, Limbaugh, Hannity, O'Reilly and the like. It is shameful, and I would hope that reasonable Republicans, ( I know you are out there, would you please stand up and wave so we know you still exist?) are as bothered by this as I am. Look, both sides have those on the fringe. The difference is that the Democrats don't make them headliners at the national party like the Republicans do. I am ready for some champagne, first toast, to President and Mrs. Obama, for their grace in the face of tragedy.

The ALLCAPS dude or dudette tells me all I need to know!

ITAH!

Salute NDD - as for Char in Ohio - looks like someone missed their anger management class AGAIN!

Nothing more than another Beckerhead! WAAAAAAAAAAA! Beckerhead needs another cracker! lmao!

PS: Have I ever told you how giggly the bubbly makes me? ;o)

Really,

First off, DAWNING and I are two different people, I assure you. Just as you are with your just created name, are a different person.

Second, read a little closer. Neither NDD or I, blamed anyone but the individual. We both suggested quite clearly that mental illness was the important issue needing to be addressed.

You seem rather defensive, almost as if you have some paranoia issues. Obviously NDD and I are both progressive in our thinking, however you shouldn't immediately characterize our remarks as blaming someone other than the shooter. Lighten up. Take the time to listen to different ideas without pre-judging and characterizing. I didn't blame guns or the right wing.

This is a good example of where we agree on a non-partisan issue, mental illness. We don't know what set this guy off and may never find out. More than likely it was a combination of obscure things. Inputs that he took and added to his delusion thought process. Could have been the way the sun looked that morning. Maybe we could blame the weather because had it been a bad weather day, maybe he'd have stayed at home. All kinds of things could be factors, but not the source to blame.

But since you mentioned it. Not watching TV or listening to the radio, doesn't really "clear" the rhetoric component of being a potential input. He lived in Tuscon. There were campaign posters and signs on buses, billboards and political mailers. Frankly I think a lot of these mailers get even more extreme with the rhetoric and symbolism. I'm sure you have seen this stuff. Things distributed by those so called non-profit political action committees. (something we should all be concerned about if for no other reason than that we all subsidize these guys with a non-profit postal rate!) I'm not saying this had anything to do with this incident, but I will say that often the mentally ill fixate on objects. From what I've read this sometimes is associated with being in control of the conversation with these objects. You probably understand this better than I, you having experience in treating these people.

My point is that radio and TV are not the sole sources, and potentially, other high production value communication methods, could be even more of an influence on someone with an ill mind. Imagine if you will, some sick individual finding some nice glossy mailer in his mailbox, maybe even addressed to him by name. He can hold it, examine it and even communicate with it. Is this a message specifically to him from some higher power? Is he somehow being called out to? We know that's not what the mailer was about, but does he know that? The fact is, that if he was completely sane, none of these kinds of things would logically inspire such thought or action. And I agree wholeheartedly, that lack of complete sanity is the source cause, not some obscure input. Only saying that we know people like him are out there walking around. Maybe we should just be aware of that and be a bit more careful when we use any form of mass communication, including these kinds of boards.

CHAR in, thankfully, OHIO: The word is No one, not "NOONE". No one is what we call a superlative, an absolute. When you write about "NOONE" this and "NOONE" that, you make yourself look stupid two different ways at once. ........You don't know what everyone thinks, so you can't claim to have any idea if "NOONE" does or doesn't support something. Polls can provide you with numbers and percentages of the populace to go with your arguments.

We don't blame Sarah Palin for our problems, we are saying that she doesn't offer any workable SOLUTIONS.

My goodness, that lil innocent post caused an roar, didn't it? Char dear, really, take a deep breath and relax. It might do well for you to try to gain insight as to why you became upset over what was a pretty innocuous post. Second, quoting me, since I am nothing if I am not fascinating "Beck too, especially since he has had 3 people who have attempted acts of violence..." BECK, Char: Source Beck's Incendiary Rhetoric Has Motivated Threats, Assassination Attempts." Jan 13, 2011. The question is this, Char: What kind of nation do we want? A nation of ideas? Or a nation when people are too scared to see their elected officials for fear of their lives? I think the answer is obvious, don't you? And Char, in answer to your question: There were never Black Panthers with clubs at polling places. Do turn off Fox "News" won't you? 1NewDay and Paul, you must join us at the Dew Drop Inn! Beverly, Feisty, headed there now!

Here they go ahead going to get people upset and mad over the two parties. Get a life man, work together its one government and one body......WE the PEOPLE not you......Whats a matter with this government. We need to vote them all out and put in normal run of the life people then we would have less hate and people working for the people!!!

Well, thank you for the invitation. Is there a Friday night drink special?

Feisty has brought champagne! But, the bartender has most anything, country music in the front room, classic rock in the back!

NDD,

As to the guns and mental health issue. I can only tell you that several years back an individual I know was going through a terrible divorce and was quite disturbed and doing a lot of drinking. I didn't think dangerous to others, but who am I to judge. I suggested he seek some help which his insurance would have covered, but he was in fact worried that he could loose his gun rights. I suggested that maybe it would be appropriate to temporarily entrust his guns to someone he trusted. He agreed but still didn't want to seek professional help. I did find him some non-profit counciling which he participated in "anonymously". As with many things, time and guidance "healed his wounds" and he now is "completely normal" and has re-built his life. I'm not equating this "divorce related" mental health issue with what this shooter may be suffering from, but both conditions obviously have an effect on rational thought.

Now I'm not saying that this person could have gone completely off the deep end, but luckily he had someone to turn to and got some help when he needed it. The fact is that the "gun thing" did have something to do with his thought process. My only point on this is that keeping guns from the hands of "nuts", makes sense, but it's not the solution. Pre-emptive treatment of "disturbed" individuals before they become "nuts", makes more sense.

That's the whole point of my posts here. Mental illness is the source issue. Guns and rhetoric can be contributors, but they're not the root cause. We can discuss contributing factors and maybe adjust behaviors, but we should really be focusing on the root cause. I've heard and read about guns and rhetoric for almost a week now and although these are good discussion points, I've seen almost nothing about the source cause and how we might deal with it better.

One last thing. Sorry for participating in an off-topic discussion and good luck to Reese's Pieces!

newday
Let me at the dude/ dudette hey, Char take it easy, there is proof. Glenn Beck Himself Has Been Responsible For Three Thwarted Assassination Attempts This Year Byron Williams, an ex-felon, was on his way to shoot staff members of the Tides Foundation and the ACLU this summer. He was stopped by law enforcement for erratic driving and then opened fire.

He was Beck's 'Progressive Hunter"Williams wounded two officers before being taken into custody. Glenn Beck is this schoolteacher on television Williams said.
He later said his intention was to "start a revolution.

Jailhouse Confession: How the right-wing media and Glenn Beck's chalkboard drove Byron Williams to plot assassination.

http://mediamatters.org/research/201010110002

Charles Alan Wilson, 64, of Selah, to the year-and-a-day term after he pleaded guilty in June to a charge of threatening a federal official. His cousin writes in for leniency, and she describes in a very chilling memo -- it's on our website -- that he was slowly drawn into Glenn Beck's world. And she portrays the guy, the attempted assassin, Charlie Wilson, as a victim of Beck. The party is not street theater. They threw the tea in the water. No guns.

Beck Linked With Stoking "Fears" That Caused Charles Wilson To Threaten Murray.Wilson Said He "Want[ed] To [Expletive] Kill" Murray Because Of The Passage Of Health Care Legislation. In an April 6 article, Politico reported that Wilson "allegedly called Murray's office on numerous occasions" saying that she " 'had a target on her back,' and 'I want to [expletive] kill you,' according to court documents.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2013231129_threat23m.html?syndication=rss

Yup, Beverly, you have about covered it. Words have meaning. And if someone is using violent imagery as symbolic language, they must understand that there are those who may take that language seriously, not symbolically. A reasonable question, why is such language necessary. 1NewDay, thanks for clarifying what you meant, and have a good weekend.

Words only have meaning if you let them have meaning. For instance, if I were to say something like: "Feisty is an evil @!$%# who deserves to ass-raped by a bunch of @!$%# spider monkeys", it really doesn't mean anything unless you make it mean something. The problem is that we have become overly sensitive to everything that someone says. Everyone has said something that they regret saying at some point in their life. People can only upset you with their words if you let them. Sticks and stones, remember?

Chris: Your choice of words tells us a great deal about you. You may have become a danger to yourself.

Thanks, Paul!

Now, what exactly do you think you learned about me?

We have learned Chris, that you are someone who has missed the point entirely.

No, I understand the point, Dawn. Perhaps you don't.

This touchy-feely phase will pass and we will soon be back to dealing with reality. Reality is that people are stupid and mean and say stupid and mean things. What everybody needs to do is learn how to filter the good from the bad and make up their minds for themselves what is worth listening to. The example I gave above was meant to be stupid and mean to illustrate my point. You and Paul both took what I said too seriously and missed the point. Words only have meaning if you let them. How much clearer can I make that?

Chris: go back and read my original post. You still cannot seem to suss out the issue. "Words only have meaning if you let them." Really? So if a mentally ill guy decides to "let them" then what? The people are still dead, still wounded. No. First Amendment rights to free speech come with an equal, and perhaps GREATER responsibility. That responsibility is due care. You do not have the right to slander or libel, or create a disturbance, and most prudent people would agree that some care must be taken with imagery, such as cross hairs. My friend Paul said it well when he talked about amplified speech. Beck, Limbaugh and Palin and that ilk have very large microphones and they appeal to those who are not terribly bright. They have a special duty to be responsible, and they are not. If those of us who are able to write or speak do not make this point over and over, there is no accountability for these hateful pundits. I call again on all reasonable people to begin to boycott these shows.

God and Jesus don't vote and if 'they' did, how many votes could they cast?

I don't know how many votes they would cast, but I'm sure they'd cast their vote for Obama.....in 2012

As if Jesus would vote Republican. What a laugh! The bigger laugh is the idea that any Republican Christian would actually worship Jesus if he showed up today. (Hint: Jesus would be denounced as a "Marxist")

Indigo Halo

As if Jesus would vote Republican. What a laugh! The bigger laugh is the idea that any Republican Christian would actually worship Jesus if he showed up today. (Hint: Jesus would be denounced as a "Marxist")

Of course they'd call Jesus a Marxist and a few other choice words. Good on you for calling them out. Steele didn't. All he did was attack and make one apology for their "Southern Strategy"

Steele new the Republican/ Tea baggers

March 5, 2010

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0310/RNC_Fallout_Ashamed_donor_says_he_wont_give.html

Why did this presentation prove to be foot in mouth? Because:

http://themoderatevoice.com/65055/rnc-loses-donor-over-foot-in-mouth-leaked-fundraising-presentation/

Ahh, Bev, so late in the day, yet still with the "teabagger" rants. Did you learn nothing from your ridiculous posts last Saturday and Sunday?

What would the Rev. Al say? Does Monday's holiday mean nothing to you?

........ wow Beverly ........ you gave it to em girl ........ you got spunk ....... i like that ......... id like to give you my phone number ....... but, i wont ..... darn it ........ lol

Have a good weekend, Beverly!

Amen to that Indigo. So, so many of the right wing forget what Jesus was supposed to be about. After all, man created God in his own image and likeness......

newday

Have a good weekend, Beverly!

Thank you

================================================================

Spanky-

Ahh, Bev, so late in the day, yet still with the "teabagger" rants. Did you learn nothing from your ridiculous posts last Saturday and Sunday?

What would the Rev. Al say? Does Monday's holiday mean nothing to you?

You'd have to wait and see what Rev Sharpton says. I'm sure it'll be on the web.

Well, since its my son's birthday of course it does; in fact, it ha a very special meaning. My son can quote Dr King at the drop of the hat. What does Dr King mean to you?

The way you judge people and disrespect women it doesn't seem like it. Are you learning?

Hiya Bev - I have a glass of champagne for you as well!

Feisty

Hiya Bev - I have a glass of champagne for you as well!

Thanks, a little bubbly will go good with my taters; send it over. That'd help even better to unwind and get away from right wing wackos. You know how they like to stalk.

You know how they like to stalk.

I LOVE it! We bring them out of the darkness and into the light for ALL to see!

I still want to come down an buy you lunch! Taters and ALL! ;o)

Hey ! I want to go too!

It is so nice the way Beverly, Fiesty, and NewDay come together to "support" each other. It is almost like they can't stand on their own.

INTErESTING THAT THEY REFERENCE STALKING. Beverly and Fiesty seem to have an unhealthy fixation on poor No Joe.

NDD - you KNOW you are always welcome!

Keep me posted on the kitties progress and I may come up for a visit!

As for muffintop - anyone who want to brag about the fact their jeans don't fit... ain't my fault.... lol

Good line Fiesty!

Man, Feisty, can't type tonight, sorry!

Get help soon

I think they were just assuming he'd be easy to push around. Then he decided to do whatever he wanted, and they were trapped and they couldn't get rid of him. Hilarious. Imagine if he had been a white guy who had won the House back for them... They'd be having parades in his honor.

So "they" revealed this to you when.

Is that they didn't want a black guy heading the party or because he failed? Which one?

Why is it the Liberals that seem to bring up race? Not all Liberals do so, of course, but you can guarantee that when the skin color or religious beliefs of the person are used as an excuse or a reason, it is a Liberal that first mentions it.

As I had about the fact Pelosi takes cues from John Burton, her mentor. But also someone who had to step out of the light because he was gropping his staff. But then again was made chairperson of the Democrats in California. But I also know if thats who they want who am I to question it. Because the bottom line is they are the money raiser and cheer leaders for their party only.

Sorry to burst your bubble, Frank, however, the deals were signed, sealed, and delivered. This big boy is their's.....to the end! (Like selling your soul to the devil......)

Wait, you're a black, gay, slutty athiest..AND witch?

Indigo Halo

there is no welcome mat out for Jews, Muslims, Wiccans, Buddhists, Hindus, Voodons, Santereians, agnostics, or atheists in the GOP. The implication is pretty clear that no homosexual -- no matter how fiscally conservative -- will be welcome in Priebus's GOP.

Look at how they denounced the Native American ceremony at the Tucson Memorial. Worst, they denounced the way the mourners were grieving .

Frankly Speaking, I'm sick of them and the Fox Nation using the Victorian Era to justify the way they think the United States should be.

Sorry that some folks didn't feel welcomed.

Beverly, nobody "denounced' the way the mourners were grieving. The concensus opinion among Republican spokespeople is "everybody mourns in their own manner." Now for the Obama "groupies" in the audience treating the memorial service as a campaign rally and disrupting the real mourners there, they deserve denouncing.

The one thing you people on the left seem to forget is that to the Republican Party all people are equal. They do not need to be broken down into little, easy-to-handle minorities like the Democrats seem prone to do. There are, simply, no minorities in the Republican Party because no person is a minority but a part of the American Majority.

The one thing you people on the left seem to forget is that to the Republican Party all people are equal. They do not need to be broken down into little, easy-to-handle minorities like the Democrats seem prone to do. There are, simply, no minorities in the Republican Party because no person is a minority but a part of the American Majority.

As long as it is convenient to say so...

bloomer,

Now for the Obama "groupies" in the audience treating the memorial service as a campaign rally and disrupting the real mourners there, they deserve denouncing.

What you are saying, is that when the people clapped and cheered because Ms. Giffords opened her eyes, it was just Obama groupies? Or when they cheered the heroes, it was a campaign cheer?

I thought 6 people died and 13 were wounded and they were there for a memorial for the dead , support for the wounded and praise for the heroes.

If you are so supportive of mourning, why didn't you insist that Boehnor show up so he could lead the people in weeping?

God forbid that the President could do anything good. You really need to see someone about your hate problem.

bboomer-1466467

Beverly, nobody "denounced' the way the mourners were grieving. The concensus opinion among Republican spokespeople is "everybody mourns in their own manner." Now for the Obama "groupies" in the audience treating the memorial service as a campaign rally and disrupting the real mourners there, they deserve denouncing.

Really? That's not what I heard over at FOX NOISE.

Disrespectful? Memorial Sounded Like Campaign Rally in Tucson

[snipped from the FOX NATION WEBSITE]

I thought President Obama's words were excellent. But at times the Tucson Memorial, unfortunately, looked and sounded more like a campaign pep rally.

Very often throughout the memorial there were whoops and hollars, along with loud applause and whistling, not just during the president's speech, but for other speakers, including members of the Obama administration.

http://nation.foxnews.com/arizona-shooting-rampage/2011/01/13/disrespectful-memorial-turns-campaign-rally-tucson

And what those tee shirts? You don't suppose the right will stop calling the tee shirts campaign slogans; do you now?

"Its a T-Shirt to stop Anti Racism."

?????

http://www.redbubble.com/people/slippie/t-shirts/4185875-2-together-we-thrive

notsojingo

"Its a T-Shirt to stop Anti Racism."

?????

notsojingo

I am just as puzzled. These are the tee shirts I saw.

http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-news/7879834-video-can-the-president-ever-win-critism-of-his-tucson-memorial-speech/image/70486746-t-shirts-are-placed-on-chairs-for-a-memorial-service-for-victims-of-the-january-8-shooting

Yours’ are not the same

I assume this means those on the right‘s tea shirts have everything to do with being a victim of the left and the tea shirts is anathema to reverse racism.

I also saw and heard this...

Critics Assail Cheering and T-Shirts at Obama Tucson Speech
[snip]

T-shirts reading "Together We Thrive: Tucson & America" were handed out to attendees at the event, prompting conservative pundit Michelle Malkin to complain: "Isn't the churning of the instant messaging machine a bit, well, unseemly? Can't the Democrat political stage managers give it a break just once?"

Pointing to the fact that the slogan appeared on various items at the event, Malkin wrote, "Yes, the Tucson massacre is being branded." She later wrote that she had been informed that the University Of Arizona had been responsible for the t-shirts and other items, but added: "Given the Obama White House's meticulous attention to stage prop details, however, I would say the odds of involvement by Axelrod/Plouffe & Co. are high."

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20028447-503544.html

I guess I will take one of each!

But seriously, I commented at the initial response of Fox News being surprisingly supportive immediately following President Obama's Tucson speech (except for Brit Hume, who apparently is just always a dick), but was disappointed to see that nonpartisan enthusiasm disappear within hours, as they begin dissecting how it was a stump speech, the audience was a pep rally, he talked too long, paused too much, blah, blah, blah.

So much for a fresh path as far as Murdoch TV goes...though I still hold out hope against hope! Such a positive flicker of humanity so quickly snuffed out from the Third Reight(sic).

Peace

And yet, Steele was a stark raving lunatic, so he was a perfect fit for the job of GOP chairman. He actually advocated closing down fertility clinics because it was medically impossible for all the frozen embryos to be turned into live babies. That's how far his anti-choice, anti-abortion rhetoric goes.

Steele had issues while in Maryland. He never should have been the chairman of the RNC. He was not good at raising money and he kept making embarrassing mistakes.

BeckyAl, well then I guess he will fit right in!

@Indigo: maybe Steele was afraid someone would see his leadership and think about doing a retroactive abortion for his mother. HA ;)

Not being from MD, I can't speak of Steele's past performance. I thought he was jumping at the chance to show leadership. Instead, he wound up embarrassing himself. Sad situation.....

Well dirp, Aren't you glad your Mother didn't get an abortion?

It tells me he doesn't understand the concept of the Trinity very much.

Sadly this is the most witty comment I've read so far.

This is the real world--Not "TRON".

And the paradigm of IoL is idyllistic in this economic climate. New third sector based on New macro econimic model wont realize sustainable growth as long as our community leader's content is to further his own personal agendas he's always had. Another 6 years, hardly..in light of the even greater crevass between parites just portrayed by the press this week, he's lucky he doesn't get impeached! Look what he's done so far....America turning on eachother in a self destructing brocade of rheteric and hate.

Dude will you enlighten yourself and see how much taxes most of the rich pay and then use common sense to deduct who is paying for liberal social programs.

So you don't invent a product or service that's innovative enough to make money because you think Jesus won't like you.......I guess that's the best excuse I've heard.

Look you guys can't cry every time somebody realizes their American dream. You can't fault people just because you chose to scrape by and wallow in apathy....and I'm barely middle class so I'm right there. I'm fairly certain Jesus was about free will too...which means these folks have to want to give back. So essentially your badgering them or threatening them with incarceration until they give you the money they earned and you didn't. Very Christ like indeed. Personal accountability for your life.....someday were gonna have to get some.

......... oh my ........ no republicans benifit from social programs ???????? better roll up another one clown ...... and rich people pay for social programs ??? everyone who pays Federal taxes pays for them you brain dead Republican twit !

Oh, yes, Jesus (according to your bible) said lots about free will. He also said that those who use their free will to get lots and lots and lots of stuff at the expense of others will burn in h-e-double-toothpicks. He made it clear that the rich were to earn lots and lots and lots of money, and then to give all of it away. So when are these people going to have personal accountability for their lives when they don't do that? If they do, that's very "christ-like." When they don't, it's very "anti-christ." Don't get on my case about being "christ-like." I'm very christ-like even though I know your christ is just a figment of your imagination. Too bad someone who believes in that myth can't be like that. Get a face-mask to keep out the coal dust you're going to be breathing for all eternity, if you believe in that stuff. By the way, aren't you supposed followers of Jesus suppose to believe in the christian way, not the American way? If you think the American way is to get rich at the expense of others (which it is not, hate to tell you unpatriotic, America-hating Palinistas), then you can't be a christian. Jesus said so. Try to refute it. You can't.

One must never forget that the Bible, and other books of its kind have proven to be for the selective reader. Not only are these books of faith heavily contradictory & littered with double standards, as well as stone-age ideals, they are then further filtered by the individual readers/followers to fit certain sections into their personal lives and chosen morals. Oh, and not to forget how they feel about how they will be percieved by their fellow God-fearing folks. "I would like to take this opportuninty to thank the Lord Jesus Christ for etc. etc....." Unfortunately, whether sincere or not, for a right wing politician, will gain votes and support... Worst is, it works. Again, whether sincere....or NOT.............

So these comments prove that the poor can't afford to be republicans and to make yourself feel better as a repuglican you lash out at them and call them deadbeats because the don't share your good fortune and then you come on a liberal newsvine to proclaim your selfrighteousness and we are all supposed to roll over here and except your version of the facts. God said there will be those who speak of me but they will be nowhere near my heart. Not word for word but you get the point. If you truly believe in god you would not be here trying to pick fights with the poor. You are trolls and better get ready to shovel coal. I would be a conservative were it not for this kind of ideology wiggling its serpentine ways into what are otherwise good values. Guess I will stay blue. Shame on you trolls. Cheers Jerry.

I'm still waiting for the Tea baggers to burn their social security cards en masse! Yeah!

Yeah, right.............good try leftie.

LOL You're right. He's cried more since his appointment, than Pelosi did her whole term. My kind of woman, tough, and yet delicate, feminine.

Our country was lead by Bush for 8 years and that is why our country is bankrupt!! Obama has not had enough time to straighten up the mess rep. left us with. The supreme court ended our democracy by allowing the rich to control everything. In Wi our new gov. Walker is so dumb that he threw 8.5 million away and is throwing out gov. workers to keep his "deals" private. Electing officials to depts. who know nothing about the eco system here and does NOT CARE. Our country led by Rep landed us in this depression and most of the population elected them back because it was taking too long and did not pay corporations enough money and put US citizens first. The corporations who outsource our jobs for more profits have left this country mostly unemployed, underpaid and bankrupt, but what the h*** they need the tax breaks. We are entering the Republican communist state and are doing nothing to stop it. WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!!

Correction, Republican fascist state, we are the closer party to communism. They both have good and bad qualities, especially when we become extreme. Point, lets not join the party party lets crash it and crush it. Its our only hope to truley take our country back. Or rather forward.

Maybe Obama hasn't had enough time to straighten up the mess but he sure has had time to triple it.