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Michael Steele unintentionally said it best himself at a debate for chairman of the Republican National Committee: "It was the best of times, it was the worst of times," he said, incorrectly attributing the line to "War and Peace," which he called his favorite book. (It's from "A Tale of Two Cities.")
Today, at a sprawling resort just outside Washington, Steele delivering a speech -- in his capacity as RNC chairman -- was essentially his last pitch to members before today's vote of the 168 committee members who, will determine his fate this afternoon.
"You shocked the world," he told the assembled members, as he delivered the chairman's report on the past two years.
Steele was deferential, crediting members with wins in 2009 in Virginia and New Jersey as well as touting the committee's efforts to take back the House and place John Boehner as speaker.
Of course, Steele once said, "I won" the Virginia and New Jersey races. Today, he said, "You won." And he once said the GOP wouldn't take back the House. "Not this year," he said.
But Steele is looking to be re-hired for this job, so he made sure to shower the members with praise.
"It does not get done without you, our state chairmen and our national committeemen and women," Steele said. He added, "You did not shrink from the challenge. You did not walk away from the opportunity. The effort of our party speaks for itself."
Sounding a bit like failed Delaware Senate candidate Christine O'Donnell (R), he said, "For the first time in a generation, we saw us. ... We drew in America. They responded to your voice; they responded to your efforts.
He touted the GOP's electoral successes in 2009 and 2010, calling the RNC "one of the best committees in a long time."
He lauded get-out-the-vote efforts, more offices in states, the RNC's new Web site, and winning even mayoral races in places like Albuquerque, NM, county offices in Upstate NY, and even in Guam.
Yes, today Guam votes, too.
"I want to thank you so much," Steele said, "so much for the chance to serve at a time when our party was changing. ... We stand proud."
Regardless of the outcome of today's vote, Steele told the RNC to "appreciate what you have done" to "establish a Republican renaissance."
In concluding his remarks, Steele exhorted the audience "to give the Democrats Hell over the next two years."
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"It was the best of times, it was the worst of times," he said, incorrectly attributing the line to "War and Peace," which he called his favorite book. (It's from "A Tale of Two Cities.")
LoL.
According to Michael Steele and his minions, the quote is in War and Peace and the constituents will believe it as fact.
Its probably one of the most well-known lines in literature...
Maybe George Bush was his speech writer.
Way to sep and fetch steel, It won't save you though! Ha Ha....
Wheeeeee! Look at all of the Civility on here. Makes me feel all warm and fuzzy.
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The 'best' of times was Michael's little foray to the lesbian bondage club!
The 'worst' of times was not being able to find a 'cure' for his foot in mouth disease!
Oh well... can't win them all I guess!
PS: Good catch Pat! An education truly is a terrible thing to waste... isn't it? lol
He would have been better off quoting John Stuart Mill: "Not all conservatives are stupid people, but most stupid people are conservative."
A fact like that is hard to refudiate.
Today a new face will give you libs another lease on the life of hostility.
ENJOY!
I don't care so much about his incorrect attribution, but he was factually wrong as well. It wasn't the best, OR the worst of times. It was only about average. What IS wrong with that clown, anyway? If that's the leader of your party, what does it say about YOU?
It has been stated in many books including "The Roaring 20's".
Steele is but yet a man with a terrible speech writer. This is why he is not a Senator today.
This is almost as stupid as Obama saying he visited 57 states during the '08 campaign!
That is a good one but my favorite passage from War and Peace is:
`Twas brillig, and the slithy toves
Did gyre and gimble in the wabe:
All mimsy were the borogoves,
And the mome raths outgrabe.
Machinehead, He said he made 57 stops in States,,,,,,,,Which he actually did, Your watching to much Beck again
Maybe he should have quoted Churchill: anyone not a liberal at twenty has no heart; anyone not a conservative at thirty has no brain.
Or Sarah and her country of Africa and not knowing what countries are involved in NAFTA.
No, machinehead, considering the state of American geography classes, it was probably worse than the 57 states comment.
BTW, it's also one of my most-hated quotes from one of my most-hated books from one of my most-hated authors. Just hearing it again makes me cringe!
@ WisconsinDad - I know plenty of 'democrats' that don't have a clue as well, they just think it's cool to go against the "old" party.
I've seen tree stumps that are more intelligent
No Joe, Churchill lived in a different era and country. Today's wealthy in America are democrats. Someone is going to have to tell all those billionaires they have no brain because as it stands they look pretty smart and the majority of them voted for Obama.
Oops, there it is...
No Jo, Churchill made no such quote.
It's fast becoming the typical Republican way of doing things. Misquote, misspell, twist, flop, mangle. I'm gonna be sorry to see Steele leave, it was comical to see him play the part of leader of the RNC when we all knew that Rush, Karl, Glenn, Bill and Anne ran that party. He could go to Hollywood. They have jobs for little or no talent bit actors. Maybe his ex-speechwriter could go to Wasilla and help Sarah out, two misquotes always make a Right. Maybe the RNC could send her a speech therapist to try and remove that fake Fargo accent too.
'it was the best of times, it was the BLURST OF TIMES???!'
GEe, the Repubs will probably get rid of their token black man.
"Bo-1925019
Machinehead, He said he made 57 stops in States,,,,,,,,Which he actually did, Your watching to much Beck again."
He said, and I saw him say it on video: "I have campaigned in all 57 states." The Muslims have 57 states; we have only 50. A fact that someone who wants to be President should know.
Much like Roger Clemens he 'misremembered'
How could you mix those two up? But whats worse is he attributed the likes of Dickens to Tolstoy? Come on, Dickens isn't worthly of spraying pledge on Tolstoy's desk. I hope this costs him the Pro-Tolstoy vote.
Jeeze the people are not all in the ground yet and you name callers are already at it....don't you ever get enough?? Both of you on the right and left make me sick!! Most of us in the middle are reasonable maybe thats why you always hate us so....How can you stand to listen to that radio crap and Fox day after day...its always the same....the sky is falling if your not on our side.
Biloxipat: Mississippi? Obama was discussing how many stops in how many states he had made and how many more states and stops he had to go. Yes, he said "57 states". This mistake was made 3 years ago. He was elected President anyway. It would appear that the majority of Americans were certain that he knew and knows that there are only 50 states, and he merely mispoke state when he meant stop. Why is this so important for you to keep bringing it up?
Yet the Republicans will be cast as racists by the left if they don't retain his services.
Good to see the intellectual elitists of the left out early today. I'd venture to say that most stupid people are on welfare or some other kind of government assistance which would lead me to believe that in fact most stupid people are liberal (aka constipated in the brain).
Nancy,
You made your post at 3:00 pm est, that's early to you? Are you on crack or something?
Then you state that most stupid people are on welfare? What an ignorant statement to make. Of all the people in the public eye the stupid ones undoubtedly appear to be Republican: Palin, Steele, Bush, Jeb Bush, Dan Quayle, Chuck Norris, Ted Haggart, Tom Delay the list goes on and on.
Just for you, Matt
http://www.fightthebias.com/Quotes/winston_churchill.htm
Yes, I paraphrased somewhat. The gist is the same.
Actually, I have to thank you, Matt. I had all but forgotten my favorite Churchill quote:
"A liberal is a man with both feet planted firmly in the air".
Matthew,
I recall the quote somewhat differently than the way no joe stated, nevertheless, it has been a favorite and I have been inclined to attribute it to Churchill.
What is the actual quote and who made it.
Thanks
Whoops, just beat me.
Thanks no joe.
Speaking of Churchill quotes no joe, how's this one:
Try again, NJ and Bob. I reseached NJ's quote over a year ago and found no attribution of Churchill uttering those words. The 'source' you pointed to gives no date or context, both of which are required to provide proof (i.e. verification). The only people I hear saying these words are conservatives who only wish he had said those words and the site you direct me to is a very conservative website.
Provide a second, credible source that can be backed up with actual historical documentation and I will believe you, until then, I do not believe you or your source.
NAWO
Was I in a time warp?
Anyway, Thanks no joe for the link
The first one on that link was the quote I just mentioned. And since we are in Obama's spirit of "healing" and I need another one for you, here's one of Churchill's apolitical quotes - dedicated to the liberals.
Whoa, now there's Matthew.
Oh well. Matthew, sorry I don't have the date, time, context, etc to prove the other ones too.
The actual quote is "show me a young conservative, and I'll show you someone with no heart, show me an old liberal and I'll show you someone with no brains".
The implication when phrased like that is actually quite different, as it says quite clearly that for you to be young and support conservative ideology you're heartless, and for you to be old and support liberal ideology, you're brainless.
It seems to me that the implication of this statement is that most kind people start off as liberals, become centrist in their middle age, and conservative in their old age. Which is actually in keeping with polling data.
To me it also reflects the kindness and innocence more often found in the young, as we all tend to become more selfish as we get older and conservatisim is more 'me' and less 'us'. It's alo more about things staying the same and less about change, another thing most people tend to like less with the passing years.
Interestingly, we also laugh less as we get older as well. children laugh about 200 times a day, by the time you're in your sixties, you're down to 6-10 laughs a day, and up to one and a half hours of worrying which makes me think maybe liberalism is at least good for the soul, if nothing else.
And in answer to who said it, it's a quote commonly and wrongly attributed to Winston Churchill, I have no idea when or where it was adapted to it's current form.
The original quote is "Not to be a republican at twenty is proof of want of heart, to be one at thirty is proof of want of head" it was by Francois Gusoit(1787-1874), and to clear up confusion, the republicans of the time where the people who overthrew the french monarchy, creating a republic, so at that time, a republican was one of more liberal ideology.
Actually, Joe and Bob, this is not a Churchill quote at all!
The actual quote was made by Francois Guisot (1787-1874). It was wrongly attributed to Churchill. It is comical that you would make a misquote error in an article discussing a misquote. Oh well, can't win them all!
Well, bob, what can I say. We are dealing with "sheep in sheep's clothing", it seems.
Have a great weekend.
A man named Peter Rutland wrote a letter to the Washington Post
clearing up the origin of the 'Churchill quote':
?Charles Krauthammer [op-ed, May 25] quotes Winston Churchill as
saying, "If you're not a liberal when you're 20, you have no heart. If
you're not a conservative when you're 40, you have no head."
This quotation is frequently but mistakenly attributed to Churchill.
It is anyway unlikely that Churchill would subscribe to this
philosophy: He was a swashbuckling soldier at 20, and a Conservative
member of Parliament at 25. A couple of years later he switched to the
Liberal Party (which was not liberal in the modern sense), and later
went back to the Conservatives.
The phrase originated with Francois Guisot (1787-1874): "Not to be a
republican at twenty is proof of want of heart; to be one at thirty is
proof of want of head." It was revived by French Premier Georges
Clemenceau (1841-1929): "Not to be a socialist at twenty is proof of
want of heart; to be one at thirty is proof of want of head."
Washington Post
Socialists shouldn't like a little head every now and again after thirty? Wait........what?
Now that was funny, Paul.
Oops! Looks like NJ and Bob did not know what they were talking about . . . again.
The USA born and raised President Churchill was quoting War and Peace when he said that.
They also quoted War and Peace for this famous quote:
"I wonder if I've been changed in the night? Let me think. Was I the same when I got up this morning? I almost think I can remember feeling a little different. But if I'm not the same, the next question is 'Who in the world am I?' Ah, that's the great puzzle!"
That was Steele and Churchill but meanwhile back at the ranch the good lady Sarah was quoting Shakespeare's War And Peace of course:
Four sooths
To be or not to be
A bald or dash.
Amen
I am pretty confident that Diogenes would never have sought out members of the Party of No or the Tea Party.
Kara,
Thanks. I had always heard it attributed to Churchill, but could not find it in his stuff.
You must be a liberal - the speaking of kindness and innocence more often found in the young ...with a good dose of cynicism/contempt for conservatives.
Actually, the brilliance of the quote can mean many things. Heart vs. Head; Idealistic vs. Realistic; Hopefull naitivity of youth vs. Wisdom from experience brought by age; Emotion vs. Logic: all of the above plus more.
Great quote nevertheless. Old one too. Funny it still applies.
Wonder how old Guizot was when he came up with it.
Matthew,
Carefull now. No joe had a source. Seems like quite a few attributed it to him.
Do you know the full story? Did Churchill read Guizot? It is not the exact quote that is attributed to Churchill - (the quote in 1.41 that Krauthammer cited is the one I recall). You sure Churchill didn't say it, or did say it yet never accepted ownership because it was close to what Guizot said? Was everything Churchill said an absolute 100% original thought? Clemenceau changed it and has his change attributed to him. Could not Churchill have revived and updated Clemenceau's quote?
And besides, by your standard - no one has refuted no joe.......
They did not give date or context. (Actually they evidently even misspelled his name according to Wiki) And btw- Wiki doesn't give the date of the quote or context of the quote.
Oh yea, if you want to refute no joe, please also provide something...
Otherwise, by your standard - you lost again to her.
bob-1805084
Would you say your argument is just a tad convoluted?
Sorry but it hit my funnybone. I have no dog in this race just a sense of humor that could not pass this up:
You sure Churchill didn't say it, or did say it yet never accepted ownership because it was close to what Guizot said?
That is the best answerless question I have read in some time. You have a very fine mind but that is close to abuse. lol
I get the feeling I am reading a search engine food fight as everyone races to look up the last comments and top them. Would it be wrong for me to say, the initial "quoted" phrase was wrong for today and for this country but sounds like a good enough phrase and may even have been accurate for Europe at the time "someone" said it?
no jo, just because it's on the internet does not make it true. Churchill never said, "If you're not a liberal when you're 20, you have no heart. If you're not a conservative when you're 40, you have no head."
This quotation is frequently but mistakenly attributed to Churchill. It is anyway unlikely that Churchill would subscribe to this philosophy: He was a swashbuckling soldier at 20, and a Conservative member of Parliament at 25. A couple of years later he switched to the Liberal Party (which was not liberal in the modern sense), and later went back to the Conservatives.
The phrase originated with Francois Guisot (1787-1874): "Not to be a republican at twenty is proof of want of heart; to be one at thirty is proof of want of head." It was revived by French Premier Georges Clemenceau (1841-1929): "Not to be a socialist at twenty is proof of want of heart; to be one at thirty is proof of want of head."
You are obviously neither a student of literature nor history.
You are right, bob. You and no jo were shown to be wrong about the quote by more than one person, none of them me, so obviously I lost to no jo. Yeah, that really makes a lot of sense.
<end sarcasm>
NAWO.
What's fascinating Matthew is how they scurry when shown to be the fools they really are! lol
The fact that they cannot admit to a mistake speaks volumes to their character!
What is fascinating to me, Feisty, is their convoluted arguments to show that, even when they are wrong, they are right.
The 'best' of times was Michael's little foray to the lesbian bondage club!
The 'worst' of times was not being able to find a 'cure' for his foot in mouth disease!
Oh well... can't win them all I guess!
PS: Good catch Pat! An education truly is a terrible thing to waste... isn't it? lol
Best of times for Tim Kaine. And Van Holland. THose guys rocked last year.
I've heard talking heads on both sides of the aisle offer many reasons for why and how the midterms happened..."The Leadership of Michael Steele" and "The Leadership of Tim Kaine" have not been cited by either side.
Wonder if all the intellectuals that post on here would have caught that little faux pas if the author had not pointed it out.
Feisty: Is Michael Steele's mind fixated on war and peace. Inquiring minds want to know.
Red I’m going to have to get out of here a little early today to take care of some business so I hope you don’t mind letting me ride along with you for a way’s
I see where several folks have seen fit this week to express some displeasure with the venue and atmosphere at the Memorial that our fellow Americans hosted this week.
For Gosh sakes folks Lighten Up
You ought to come to a Memorial Service down at the Snake Handling Church down the road a piece. When the Preacher Man gets all wound up in one of his stem- winders it would really twist your tail. Haven’t any of you ever been to a Funeral down in New Orleans? How about a Jazz service up in New York? An Irish Wake up in Boston?
Folks the circumstances that make a Memorial Service necessary are sad and solemn. But a Memorial Service is also a celebration. A celebration of lives well lived no matter how short. A celebration of the fond remembrances that all of us can carry with us as we move on with a life diminished with absence As long as we carry these folks in a little place in our hearts and minds they are never truly gone.
And that’s all I saw the other evening. Bereaved folks including our President getting together to Celebrate Life.
Now that being said I’m hoping that all my Friends and Fellow Posters are going to join me this evening down at the Dew Drop Inn. The first two rounds are going to be on me when we all get gathered together.
The first round is going to go to a toast to six fine Americans torn from us to soon and the struggle that their friends and family is going through to deal with these circumstances. If there is anything we can do to ease your burden you have but to ask and we’ll do our best
The second round is going to a toast to Us.We the people. Because this week every one of us of any political stripe, nationality, or race have been (if even for a brief stay) in Tuscon. Thank you’ll for letting us come together with you and we will carry you and your loss forward in the hope that it will inspire each and every one of us to strive for a better future for you, us, our children and our children’s children. May God Bless and Keep You
As always my thanks and appreciation to our hosts for their time, giving me a little place to stand, a subject to comment on, a forum to put it in, and their indulgence when I don’t quite get it right or get a little off subject. I purely do appreciate it. Hope you’ll have a fine weekend and good fun among folks that you know and love. To my fellow participants keep well, keep safe, and keep the faith. We’ll make it. See you’ll next week
"It is a far, far better thing that I do, than I have ever done; it is a far, far better rest that I go to than I have ever known." - would have been a better and more fitting quote for Mr. Steele from A Tale of Two Cities.
Big B-1989609: I don't know? I have never read the book and probable never will!!!
Vulcan,
You took the post right out of my keyboard. Excellent observation. Although Steele isn't reported to be a Dickens fan as well.
Speaking just for myself here, I probably wouldn't have noticed the fact that Steele improperly attributed the quote; I probably would've just glossed right over it. But I would still have noticed that he was wrong in the factual sense. Calling what happened just over the last few years the "best" and the "worst" doesn't come anywhere close to the truth, in either extreme, and it just goes to show how self-absorbed Steele is as a person and as a political leader.
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The 'best' of times was Michael's little foray to the lesbian bondage club!
The 'worst' of times was not being able to find a 'cure' for his foot in mouth disease!
Oh well... can't win them all I guess!
PS: Good catch Pat! An education truly is a terrible thing to waste... isn't it? lol
This article is a hot mess. It's poorly written and grammatically full of errors. Get a proofreader! Just because your facebook friends don't punctuate or spell correctly doesn't mean the world has stopped caring!
Hey Feisty Red,
Are you the one who posted the You-Tube vid hoping thet Sarah Palin will get assasinated?
Another day on MSNBC.com without a mention of the P-woman. Congratualtions and keep up the good work.
Sounds like the strip club won.
Oops, my bad... bondage club.
While he may not have great familiarity with historical details or literature, you have to admit he knows more than Palin.
His ability to open mouth like a large mouth B ass and insert both feet is the reason why Former Governor Erlich kept him well hidden during his one term Republican governorship in Maryland. Steele has moved up the hierarchy of republicanism not due to brilliance or oratory. Reminds me of Sarah too.
Gee, the RNC had their "token black," and McCain tried to trump the "the first black POTUS," with a female VP, now they are stuck with the "excess baggage" that won't "go away." Cry me a river I feel so sorry for the RNC and their "wanna be" bobble heads.
Michael is Steeleing the show.
He one. I mean, He Won.
I don't know what will be more entertaining, what he'll say if he wins or what he'll say if he doesn't. LMAO!!!
Steele, unfortunately, allowed himself to be portrayed by the media as a buffoon.
I do not discount the racism of the mainstream media- they seemed affronted that an African American could even consider the Republican Party, let alone hold a position of leadership- and elevated any controversy to the level of crisis.
When Steele opined that the republicans would not take back the House, he was in good company- although I was already calling for a fifty seat pick up, I was certainly in the minority.
When a low level consultant made the obviously poor decision to host donors at a strip club, he was held as responsible as if he, personally, had hosted the event.
He was ridiculed and lambasted in a way, frankly, he would not have been were he not a person of color with the temerity to belong to what the media considers the wrong party.
And you should be ashamed of yourselves.
So, what is Steele's responsibility in this? He should have confronted you, head on, in the very beginning. He should have called out the racism, and dared you to deny it.
That he did not proves that he is a far more decent man than many in the media, but that did not help him do do his job as successfully as he might.
Wrong again... he did a 'bang up' job of that ALL by HIMSELF!
Is there anything conservatives will take responsibility for? Anything at all?
Why is it always someone else's fault?
Nothing but a bunch of martyr's!!!
Michael Steele believes that someone else did it all and he was an innocent victim. Sounds kinda Sarah Palin'ish.
no joe - all blo
the only one who should be ashamed -is you for that pathetic azzed post!
think you forgot the main element - he was "ridiculed and lambasted" mainly by those of his own Party!
"Steele, unfortunately, allowed himself to be portrayed by the media as a buffoon."
No Jo Palin- the MEDIA didn't protray him as anygthing. HE played the part of HIMSELF, I believe.
When Mikey was little, I bet he would go up to his mommy and say "mommy- somebody pooped my pants".
I just think it neat that no matter what the topic certain folks just have to go back to Palin.
And gosh No Joe it sure does look like Fiestys got a bad case of No Joe love. No matter what you say, no matter what the topic Fiesty is compelled to insert herself.
Because we all know it is all about Fiesty.
Please don't go there Buzz!
You mentioned 'poop' and now ITM will be here to play with it in no time! lol
He is, after all fascinated by it!
lol
When NJNB manages to locate her 'moral compass', people will leave her alone...
Until then... she's nothing more than a fraud and a serial liar!
I can understand your affection for her... birds of a feather and all!
Spanky-
"I just think it neat that no matter what the topic certain folks just have to go back to Palin."
Geekers, Spank- you didn't know?? It's because we are A F R A I D of her!
HaHaHsHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHsHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHsHaHaHaHaHaHa
drive-by-observer
No Jo Palin- the MEDIA didn't protray him as anygthing. HE played the part of HIMSELF, I believe.
Yes indeed,
Michael Steele was such a joke the media didn't need portray his buffoonery.
Who can forget him trying to explain himself. First it was the advice on how to wear you hat. How does that type of buffoonery not engender criticism? Steele's responsibility was to be a race hustler
His actions failed epically.
The young ones were buying into his lawn jockey political agenda.
"You mentioned 'poop' "
Damnit, Feisty- Spank WAS right. Just had to mention Palin, didn't you??
Wow, no joe...
You are truly a hypocrite. This guy Steele >>IS<< a buffoon and was put in his position by a bunch of guys who were scared to death to look racist. He was SUCH a token that it wasn't even funny and if the tables were turned you would be trumpeting that fact to the moon!
He botched one interview after another and did the dumbest things examples of which are too numerous to list. The media didn't have to do a damn thing except follow him around with a camera and, boy, was that easy considering what a ham he turned out to be.
Are you seriously trying to say that he was anywhere near the best that the GOP could have done? He isn't even half way there. The token pick is obvious to anyone is not too brainwashed by the rhetoric to see it. Dumping him is the best move the pub's could make.
Making comments like the one you made here totally takes away from your credibility just like the GOP putting this bozo in place just because they needed to match president Obama's skin color takes away from their credibility.
Is Steele stupid? No.
Did he make many gaffes? Yes.
Are they the media's fault? No.
BTW, it's Friday and I get MLK day off so THREE DAY FOR ME!
I hope everyone has a fun, safe weekend.
You too, No Joe. ;-)
You are not afraid of Palin Drive By, you LOVE her. Just like Fiesty LOVES No Joe. Just can't stop talking about her.
But hey, we do all know and recognize Fiesty as not just BOSS of the board, but also its moral compass, right?
What, that's not true? But she has to be the Boss, she comments on EVeRY SINGLE THREAD, EVERY SINGLE DAY. Now that's dedication. And sure some might find that it may reflect a lack of a life, or any interests outside this board, but Fiesty has to get her companionship where she can. And it is totally normal that it comes from the postings of anonymous posters.
why beverly - you made a racist remark. Whatever will Dr King think of you.
Actually, Jo - it's you who should be ashamed. Not a person on here has ridiculed or made any reference that it's his race we're intollerant of - it's his character.
"A low level consultant..." - and being a man in his position, he simply should have denied the invitation and not gone at all. Are you next going to suggest that his driver made a wrong turn and that's how he ended up there? The man should take accountability for his poor decision - which he did, and we move on.
A politician misquoted his "favorite book;" well, say it isn't so! A politician misquoted something? GASP!! But again, accept accountability for your oversight and move on.
When he opined Republican's wouldn't take back the house, he was in good company. Nobody would expect anyone in this country to assume a mess of this magnitude could be fixed in 2 years and that the entire country would hit the panic button after 2 years. But, that's old news now. (A great deal of the Dem's voted out had no business being there in the first place.) Accept responsibility for your comments and move on.
Michael Steele was not buffooned by the media because of his skin color. He was buffooned by the media because of his lack of tact, character, an innate ability to not accept responsibility for his actions and, frankly - for being a bad politician. I'm sorry, when you stand up at the RNC and personally claim you lead your party to its House and Senate seat pick-ups - knowing full well a small majority of the candidates you offerred your support to politely refused - that's an act of no class, whatsoever.
And, seriously - it's 2011. Racism, sadly still exists today - why, I'll never understand. But, for the sake of all invested stakeholders - please refrain from pulling the race card when no evidence warrants its presence. The man is not being voted out because he's black, he's being voted out because Republican's are interested in making a strong run at the White House in 2 years and he is not the person to lead them there.
Peace and love all.
And yet, here you are EVERY SINGLE THREAD, EVERY SINGLE DAY running behind me, reading every word!
Tell me again who it is that doesn't have a life? lmao!
Spanky-
You are not afraid of Palin Drive By, you LOVE her. Just like Fiesty LOVES No Joe. Just can't stop talking about her.
You love being snarky. There's hardly a day that goes by without you attacking me.
I, like the young ones, Steele tried to recruit, am not buying your assertions.
Oh my Bev. make no mistake I LOVES me some Bev. Your insightful and always fun comments (fun in that you always seem to work in a reference to my favorite sex act teabagging) always bring a smile to my face. You are hilarious.
And Fiesty, I do have a job so my time here with you is limited, but I would hazard to guess I post about 1/100th of the time you do. But again, keep on keeping on.
american-2051576
why beverly - you made a racist remark. Whatever will Dr King think of you.
We may have all come on different ships, but we're in the same boat now.
Martin Luther King, Jr.
We must use time creatively.
Martin Luther King, Jr.
The time is always right to do what is right.
Martin Luther King, Jr
Actually, american I meant...young ones were NOT buying into his lawn jockey political agenda.
RMS, you seem to be confused.
There was never an allegation that Steele attended the event. It was by combing expense reports,(which is known as opposition research, by the way), that the event was uncovered.
The amount of money was not large, and the report was filed properly, so the sponsor was reimbursed for his expenses.
Steele was lambasted for having reimbursed the expense, not for having attended.
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lol
When NJNB manages to locate her 'moral compass', people will leave her alone...
Until then... she's nothing more than a fraud and a serial liar!
I can understand your affection for her... birds of a feather and all!
"You are not afraid of Palin Drive By, you LOVE her......)
Y' got me, Spank. It's really those glasses. HEY! Somebody jizzed my pants!!
Yes Fiesty, make sure and re-post everything, cause once wasn't enough. Fiesty: taking the art of being an attention whore to new heights.
I think you should totally re-post some of your stuff from last Saturday and Sunday. That stuff was some of your best.
I am no racist, nor am I a rock-ribbed Democrat. But as a life-long resident of Maryland and somone who follows state politics fairly closely, I can tell you that Michael Steele is and undoubtedly will remain a buffoon. He speaks before the thinks--if he thinks at all. Like Palin, he would be well advised to listen to people who actually know what they are talking about, read to broaden his mind and keep his mouth shut until (if ever) he has anything valuable to say.
There are lots of people of color--Republic and Demoncrat--who are intelligent, articulate and ethical who deserve to hold positions of authority and wield that authority responsibly and intelligently. They add light, not heat, to the modern political scene. Mr. Steele, alas, is not among their number
No Jo - that wasn't the only report (the reimbursement) - indeed there were allegations (they were, at this point, just allegations - I'll grant that) that he was in attendance. No confusion there.
Perhaps I should restate however (my apologies) - when you're a man in his position he should choose his company wisely. (indeed, this is true for all public servants)
But that lone-point was not the overall emphasis of my post. My overall point is that your accusatory statements have no bearance on moving forward in civil discourse. The state of things being the way they are - we don't have time for excuses.
Drive by Observer,
People are afraid of Palin because she is ignorant and loves guns. Bad combo.
Here is the link to the story
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0310/35148.html
The media had a field day with the fact that a less than two thousand dollar expense was approved for such a club. The RNC demanded, and got, reimbursement of the expense, which was submitted by a consultant, not an employee.
Should there have been better oversight? Of course. Should it have been the chairman scrutinizing these expenses? Anyone whom thinks so has never worked in a corporation with more than a hundred employees.
Hi No Joe....I have been reading this blog recently and find you well spoken, though I don't always agree with you. I must say that in Michael Steele's case, my own personal opinion is that he wasn't used by the media or mistreated any more than other politicians are. As the leader of an organization such as NRC he has to be held accountable for the actions of his committee and unless he had his head totally buried in the sand I can't imagine that he was completely clueless about the misdeeds of those he worked closely with. Having said that...have a great weekend and while I fall on the side of the progressives/moderates, again, I will say that I do like some of the arguments you make and look forward to reading your posts.
I just love it njnb you are following Mr. Steele's lead I'm just surprised that a few of us swung at a pitch in the dirt. Is it that people were just having a little fun poking at the Man of Steele for his foibles. Don't take our silly comments so seriously. Personally I wish the GOP would re-elect him we can all use the laughs. You know as well as the rest of us he was just a figurehead we all know it was Karl who did and still is calling the shots.
No jo - we get it. Ok. You've presented a valid article and we'll research it as we see necessary.
But the donor investigation was not the point of your original post - or if it was, it was seriously misworded. As intelligent as you sound, I find that highly unlikely. Your original point was how Mr. Steele was, essentially, tossed under the media bus (which he was - sadly, he didn't do much to get himself out from under it) and that we should be ashamed of ourselves for oppressing him, racially.
Am I wrong? If so, my sincerest apologies. My friend, I am not here to undermine you - we simply have a difference in opinion and that's what's wonderful about this country. But, for the sake of forward progress - let's keep the discourse relevant, valid, and civil. I have nothing to be ashamed of for thinking Mr. Steele is of very little character and tact. Just like you have nothing to be ashamed of for respecting him. But pulling the race card was highly ill-advised and unnecessary.
Back to meetings and then off for the 3 day weekend. Until we meet again, friends.
Peace and love all.
Never mind the gaffes, Steele took a t 20m million dollar excess and turned it into a 20 million dollar deficit. He also authorized many questionable expenditures, including most famously funds spent at a bondage club for entertainment. Come on, the gaffes are just icing on the cake.
Nice post no joe. I think it is odd that so many liberals would attack an African American man that has had a successful career. But, he is a conservative so he must be belittled and silenced. It's also amazing how every topic seems to gravitate back to the old hate Palin, hate Beck, blah blah blah. I guess some people must not be able to deal with the truth, or have some sort of weird obsessive stalker mentality.
He's only successful if you consider whores successful as well. They do make bank.
You got it Paul, that sure is what I meant. lol
Play on word Friday on behalf of Michael still doing what he does best...
Michael Steele believes in whips and leather.
Michael Steele sees the chair from his house.
Michael Steele is going on and on about how he believes he is (still) smarter than a 5th grader.
Sorry, just glad it's Friday, and I'll Steele be glad.
Another Republican liar. How do get the first line of your "favorite" book wrong? Only by lying.
yes paul, spoken like the true CT nut job you are.! lol!!
U.S.S. LIBERTY, look it up.
The old CONSPIRACY THEORIST is calling someone a lie....imagine that.....
Man have anyone ever told you that you were an ignorant fool; it is no wonder people call you a jackazz.
Operation NORTHWOODS, look it up.
......uhm Paul......that would be "How do YOU get the first line of ..." NOT "How do get..."
Please be cafeful with that grammar, afterall.....well, you know.
True. I am glad that you could figure it out. "Afterall" is/are two words : after all. I assume you meant careful rather than "cafeful".
FR: "It was the best of times, it was the worst of times,"
Steele's deferential may have removed him with that line because he has more variables. Despite the fact that he "Fired Pelosi" as he called it, he also brought huge deficits to the RNC's budget.
So how does Steele, strip, oops, I mean remove that variable?
Poor Mikey
Bev: "Steele's deferential..."
What you talk'n bout Bev?
Spanky-
Bev: "Steele's deferential..."
What you talk'n bout Bev?
Read Domenico & Mark Murray's topic above.
Yeah, Bev, I see it. "Steele was deferential..." I know proper english and grammar can be difficult.
Spanky-
Yeah, Bev, I see it. "Steele was deferential..." I know proper english and grammar can be difficult.
Seemingly, since you had a problem with it!!!
yep beverly the FR editors used it correctly, but happy to say you didn't. lol.
And that's why we LOVES us some Bev. Fighting on in total ignorance.
american-2051576
yep beverly the FR editors used it correctly, but happy to say you didn't. lol.
I take it you and Spanky- agree? You'd rather Steele be a polite lawn jockey for the RNC?
It would appear that american and I agree that you face challenges not only with use the proper use of the english language, but also a recognition of same.
But hey, what would one of your post be without a resort to racism. And again, it is why I loves me some Bev.
I sure hope you and Bev kiss and make up pretty soon. ;)
Cheire
I sure hope you and Bev kiss and make up pretty soon. ;)
I just don't have the fire and desire to let him use and abuse me:)
I read "War and Peace" many years ago. It is a gripping story, fascinating to the very end, but it is not my favorite book.
My favorite book is Gibbons' "The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire." I haven't actually read it but I am sure there is some great stuff in it.
Robert, I have never read War and Peace as I didn't think I'd enjoy it. But I think I'll pick it up after reading what you have to say. Another really gripping book was The Rise & Fall of the Third Reich and Albert Speer's Inside The Third Reich.
But the best of the best in my opinion - Les Miserables. The book, each of the movies and the play. Work of art.
@Robert: LOL! That was funny.
Quite the chat room y'all have here,Steele falls under the old saying better to stay quiet and be thought a fool than to open ones mouth and prove it
Pat..hey!!! I read both of those books INSIDE THE THIRD REICH and THE RISE AND FALL OF THE THIRD REICH...and here I thought I was the only one!
I'm glad the President's words of civil and cool-headed discourse got to Steele
Michael Steele will not win re-election; he's too smart for most Republicans.
Best (and most accurate) post of the day award goes to Rick!
Happy Friday everybody. Never curb your enthusiasm!
Steele suffers from DNS. Listen to the Russ Parr morning show to find out what that means.
Dumb Negro Syndrome?
It's probably more than that, but the censors would have a fit.
Paul:
Why do you always have to inject your frikken minstrel show into it.
Maybe you are the dumb azz N... You need to check yourself......You come in here with all of these caucasions and constantly throw words around that you think make YOU look good and they are laughing at you. Yes, they thank you for saying what they want to say.
People like you are more of a hinderance to the plight of our race than Steele could ever be. When you are elected to LT Governor or higher office then maybe your points will be valid, until then STFU!
Julie cited Russ Parr, ya half-wit......... DNS= ? ..........You appear to be suffering the same ailment.
I know what she said. You didn't have to repeat it.
She is stupid too for even bringing that up. Now if one of these white boys in here called you a N...... you would have a frikken ....... but I guess it is okay for us to disrespect each other with the use of that word.
BTW: The don't mean Negro either.........they mean ....r
Chill with all of the BS. Why do you insist on joining in with the bashing?
ITM, I never agree with Paul's conspiracy theories but I have noticed that, for the most part and unlike you, he is fairly civil in his comments. Your favorite thing to do is call anyone who disagrees with you a: 1) dumb azz, 2) jackazz or 3) racist and then tell them to STFU. Paul has every, and just as much right to post here as you do so keep your 'STFU' to yourself.
"Why do you insist on joining in with the bashing"? Are you kidding? You are one of the worst offenders, ITM.
Matthew: Thanks. Have you looked into the U.S.S. LIBERTY incident? Your eyes will be opened. Peace.
And his last words were "...give the democrats hell...". Spoken like a typical warmonger with no desire to make an effort to get both parties work together for the benefit of the country. Same 'ol...
No doubt, Jerry. He summed up the problem with the law makers in DC. Too much making war upon each other and not enough working together.
 I feel sorry for Steele.....The republican party needed a black face thinking it would bring them some black votes, well we know that did not work. They used him and laughed behind his back. He is of no use to them and he should have enough sense to not attempt a repeat.  What a disgrace ! Steele.......you ought to know better... Stop being a fool. They don't give a dam about you and never did.Â
I agree except for the part about feeling sory for Mr. Steele.
Linda, U took the words right out my mouth, and to repeat it, "STEELE",.. your own party never cared about U. They just used U,.. and now they throw U out, like stank, trash!
I really feel sorry for Mr. Steele. He hitched his star to the Republican Party and they absolutely wasn't going to take him anywhere. I truly believe he is a devout republican because he look, sound, and think just like them. LOL! Maybe he will do better in the Independent Party. Good luck to you Mr. Steele! Move on gracefully.
Sadly, the GOP only used this man as their "token" black man so they could stand back and say that the reason they hate President Obama so much is not because they are racist. The never intended to keep him around any more than they intend to keep Palin around. They have both served their purpose and both have brought terrible humiliation to the party.
Used them both and then brazenly discarded them both without even batting and eye like so much garbage. Well, they are currently still in the process of tossing Steele out with the trash. It's amazing to watch such cold, emotionless behavior. But, you know, both Palin and Steele have made out like bandits from it so there ya go...
Yes, just like Jeb's and Goerge's schmuck Kathleen Harris. The GOP gets the desired results and the schmucks get the blame.
I would have looked on him a lot more favorably if he had not concluded "to give the Democrats Hell over the next two years." and instead had said work for the good of the country.
giving the Democrats Hell over the next two years is working for the good of the country.
"It is a far, far better thing that I do, than I have ever done; it is a far, far better rest that I go to than I have ever known." - would have been a better and more fitting quote for Mr. Steele from A Tale of Two Cities.
Not his favorite book.
What a " Sorry Sucker " Mr Steele seem to be, really!
The RNC won't even let him into the fire Pelossi Bus for one more night JA JA JA !!!
wouldn't that be a ticket - Sarah & Steele!
Yes! Token Black, and Token Human!
Ew. Please don't go there. I don't have enough popcorn for that kind of sideshow.
"You shocked the world!" Should read "You fooled the world!"
Republicans are delusional if they believe the rest of the civilized world agrees with them on ANYTHING. Their "all guns, all the time, no government, give me religion b.s. is probably most revered in Afghanistan. How's that for a soulmate. LOL
I just think it is funny the way that liberals consider themselves intellictuals because they can understand the insane. The reality is that they understand it because they are crazy. They do not comprehend logic or reason though. No country respects Obama except maybe some in Africa and Indonesia because of his family ties there. Just look at the Middle East, it's a mess and keeps getting worse. China and North Korea are on a feeding frenzy doing everything possible to provoke us. The liberals don't understand that it takes energy to create commerce. So, they pass legislation that reduces energy and cripples commerce while passing multi-billion dollar bills. Michael Steele is just not the right man for the job to deal with the mad house of liberals that remain in Washington.