Breaking down the votes against Pelosi

From NBC's Ali Weinberg
Here is a further breakdown of the 19 House Democrats who voted for someone other than Nancy Pelosi to lead the caucus.

7 from McCain districts
12 from Obama districts
7 voted for Obama agenda (both cap and trade and health care)
8 voted against Obama agenda
8 won re-election with 55% or more
11 won re-election with less than 55%

North Carolina Rep. Heath Shuler got a higher number of votes (6 out of 7) among Democrats from districts that voted for John McCain in 2008. Seven out of the 12 members from Obama districts voted for someone other than Shuler, or in the case of Georgia Rep. Sanford Bishop voted "present."

Shuler also fared better among Democrats who opposed President Obama's landmark legislative priorities: the "cap and trade" bill (which did not pass the Senate) and the health care reform law. A majority of Democrats who opposed the Obama agenda (7 out of 8) voted for Shuler, versus 2 of the 7 Democrats who voted for both cap and trade and health care.

The majority of Democrats who voted for Shuler received less than 55% of the vote in the 2010 midterms, including California Rep. Jim Costa whose slim margin over Republican challenger Andy Vidak was not confirmed until more than two weeks after the election, and Indiana Rep. Joe Donnelly, who ran several ads, like the one below, touting his distance from the "Washington crowd."

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Who cares? It's over, move on to job creation, tax reform, social security reform, and a better life for the American people.

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Reply#1 - Wed Jan 5, 2011 4:15 PM EST

Agreed...

And, they can take a miniscule amount of time to pass a repeal of Obamacare, just to let the public know that they were heard, and not ignored...as they were by Congressional Democrats who refused to listen, and paid the price last November.

President Obama can then veto the repeal...but everyone is on the record...yet again, for 2012.

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#1.1 - Wed Jan 5, 2011 4:59 PM EST

Amen, Mixed Bag.

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#1.2 - Wed Jan 5, 2011 5:24 PM EST

Sorry Mixed, it goes to Die the Unceremonial Death, without even wasteing Ink! Saving $$ for the American People, yep, yep!

    #1.3 - Wed Jan 5, 2011 7:19 PM EST
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    You need to qualify that, BigBear- WHICH American people? The ones that already enjoy a better life? Some others?? Who you have in mind, big guy?

      Reply#2 - Wed Jan 5, 2011 4:31 PM EST

      Psst. Drive By, he's talking to us conservatives. It's ok we don't expect you to understand.

      You know like the army probably would have had Custard have another go of it after Little Big Horn. Nancy did a fantastic job shepparding her representatives to a resounding defeat. I mean come on, even Obama pulled the rug out from under her. He did agree to the EVVILL "Bush tax cuts" after all. As I recall that was pretty much the cause of all evil here in MSNBC-land.

      Some might say she doesn't get it. Others that the Dems are in the denial stage of grief. I say, keep rockin' on Nancy. Now can I get a toy in my happy meal?

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      #2.1 - Wed Jan 5, 2011 4:39 PM EST

      Your happy meal will come with a nice, sweet, 'custard', perhaps. I hear it's some kind of desert. Or, maybe it's some kind of general in the army, I don't know.

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      #2.2 - Wed Jan 5, 2011 5:19 PM EST

      Drive By, are you mocking my spelling? More in depth commentary by Drive By.

      But Custard is sooooo tasty, right?

      By enough about me, how are those "Bush" tax cuts working out for you?

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      #2.3 - Wed Jan 5, 2011 5:32 PM EST
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      I'd like to see a more detailed breakdown...

      How many sentient beings actually voted for Pelosi?

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      Reply#3 - Wed Jan 5, 2011 4:49 PM EST

      and include in the breakdown----how many are left handed or right handed!

      This Pelosi vote thingy is tiresome!

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      #3.1 - Wed Jan 5, 2011 4:59 PM EST
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      Be careful of how you speak; she'll be back kicking your can in two years when people rediscover just what it is you get for voting GOP.

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      Reply#4 - Wed Jan 5, 2011 4:56 PM EST

      O.K. Mr. speaker....WHERE ARE THE JOBS?

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      Reply#5 - Wed Jan 5, 2011 4:58 PM EST

      Isn't job creation up since the November election?

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      #5.1 - Wed Jan 5, 2011 5:03 PM EST

      Help me government. Save me.

      Mike you need a job? Go out and get one bro. This here is America, land of the free. Free to suceed. Free to fail. Which did you pick?

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      #5.2 - Wed Jan 5, 2011 5:05 PM EST

      He :Picked Fail................... and now Depends on the Govt ...

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      #5.3 - Wed Jan 5, 2011 5:16 PM EST

      Come on Mike, that's not true, is it? You love freedom too, right.

      Mike, you just lovin' the "Bush" tax cuts or what? That Obama fellow is all right!

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      #5.4 - Wed Jan 5, 2011 5:34 PM EST

      Mike: O.K. Mr. speaker....WHERE ARE THE JOBS?

      Well, lets see. Minority leader Boehner took Speaker Pelosi's job. And Speaker Pelosi took Minority Leaders Boehner's job. So with the way the Obama administration counts such things, that's a gain of two jobs!

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      #5.5 - Wed Jan 5, 2011 5:44 PM EST

      That was quite strong Jo. Nice work!

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      #5.6 - Wed Jan 5, 2011 10:24 PM EST
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      Will Speaker Boehner be giving Minority Leader Pelosi a tour of his new office?

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      Reply#6 - Wed Jan 5, 2011 5:19 PM EST

      Will he hold her hand, and weep? Maybe buy her a gin and tonic?

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      #6.1 - Wed Jan 5, 2011 5:20 PM EST

      I'd weep if I had to hold Nancy's claw, ehh, hand.

      And congratulations Speaker Boehner. You've inherited quite a nasty mess, but there is no time to point fingers and blame others about that problem. Time to roll up your sleeves and get to work!

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      #6.2 - Wed Jan 5, 2011 5:25 PM EST

      But don'tyou see? The gin and tonic helps with that. Not sure how many it takes, but I bet ol' weeper-boy does.

        #6.3 - Wed Jan 5, 2011 5:28 PM EST

        Pelosi elected Minority Leader . . . .

        The Democrats continue to choose badly.

        In his acceptance speech, did Speaker Boehner talk about Hope and Change? Any Roman style pillars seen in the background during the speech?

        And after 8 or 9 gin and tonics (more gin, less tonic) Nancy might start looking pretty good to some barfly, well, at least if it's closing time.

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        #6.4 - Wed Jan 5, 2011 5:38 PM EST

        Can Pelosi still cry or were the tear ducts collateral damage? I've heard she's had some work done. Money well spent - she looks great for 150 years old.

        But dog gone it Drive By, you do got me jones-ing for a G&T.

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        #6.5 - Wed Jan 5, 2011 5:39 PM EST
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        I miss 2008, when people came here to have adult, intelligent conversations... That seems to be sadly missing now... Is this who we've become? Is this all we've got?

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        Reply#7 - Wed Jan 5, 2011 8:38 PM EST

        Dear Lyn, that would be a matter of perspective which is as individually unique as your fingerprints. Have a wonderful new year!

        Your pal,

        Jimmy

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        #7.1 - Wed Jan 5, 2011 9:46 PM EST

        Lyn, it seems the conservatives and tea partiers can't be happy with their Fox News outlet and various other right wing outlets. They have to come here, to a site they constantly downplay, and hijack it, too. Yes, adult conversations about differing opinions would be welcomed, but they just come here and spew the right wing talking points and rhetoric and are not interested in adult debate only in arguing their point of view and calling everyone else wrong. They feel that they have some mandate to repeal everything that has been accomplished, but the truth is that the majority of Democrats that lost were the Blue Dogs and conservadems who voted against the President's and Dem's agenda.

          #7.2 - Thu Jan 6, 2011 11:32 AM EST
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          Only 19?

          Was her feelings hurt?

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          Reply#8 - Thu Jan 6, 2011 1:28 AM EST

          Her actions at the gavel ceremony spoke volumes , not only about her and the Democratic Party, but the media as well.. The woman is an ideological radical totally lacking in class, but, she will get a pass. Can you imagine what would happen if a conservative woman had acted in such a manner?, She would have been fodder for Saturday Night Live and some Tina Faye wannabe for years to come,(chaining herself to the podium, wrestling for the gavel, barricading herself in the speakers office, the skit possibilities are endless), but you will never see them, they would be funny, but Pelosi is not a suitable target for the propaganda and ridicule messages the mainstream media want to present.

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          Reply#9 - Thu Jan 6, 2011 9:27 AM EST

          You have obviously not watched much SNL. Pelosi has been the target of a number of their skits.

            #9.1 - Thu Jan 6, 2011 11:37 AM EST

            Well, actually I do, and I would in no way compare, the tone of the treatment she or President Obama has received, to the excessive number and absolute purposeful derision of the skits directed at Sarah Palin, or President Bush for example.

              #9.2 - Thu Jan 6, 2011 1:20 PM EST
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              What makes you fools think that anyone give a rat's ass about what these 19 losers think? They are just under 10% of the Democratic membership in the House. I really don't give a damn what these clowns think. 90% of the group did have the brains to support Pelosi- that's what you ought to be writing about- not just the under 10% of them who obviously are clueless.

                Reply#10 - Thu Jan 6, 2011 12:13 PM EST

                Didn't think to find the usual suspects on this particular thread, Navy, Beverly, Fisty, etc. Why? Because they have no way to defend her actions and would only be ridiculed.

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                Reply#11 - Thu Jan 6, 2011 12:59 PM EST
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