White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs will leave the White House -- not just his position as press secretary.
His official departure will be after the State of the Union. No successor has been named, and that search may be expanded if a new chief of staff -- potentially ex-Commerce Secretary Bill Daley -- is named before the end of the week as some administration aides expect.
As for Gibbs, he'll continue to work for the president but as an outside consultant, essentially setting up the Washington-arm of the Obama re-election campaign. David Axelrod, who will be leaving the West Wing around the same time, will be setting up the Chicago-arm of the Obama re-election campaign.
*** UPDATE *** Here's the president's statement on Gibbs:
"For the last six years, Robert has been a close friend, one of my closest advisers and an effective advocate from the podium for what this administration has been doing to move America forward. I think it's natural for him to want to step back, reflect and retool. That brings up some challenges and opportunities for the White House - but it doesn't change the important role that Robert will continue to play on our team."


I like Gibbs. But I hope his successor has a harder edge in dealing with the sharks in the White House press corp.
I suggest Nancy Pelosi for Gibbs' replacement. She is the only person available that is less liked, less competent, than Gibbs.
Funny Patrick - I was thinking the same thing...
Two years of being 'chum' for the pool of sharks is enough to make anyone run for the hills! lol
I wish Robert the best and am sure he will continue to be a positive asset to the Obama administration in whatever capacity they utilize him!
Nahh - Pelosi's gotta save her energy for two yrs from today when she is again Speaker of the House!!!
As for Gibbs, he handled the press (present company excepted, of course, Chuck!) with the disdain they deserve, and did a GREAT job of it. Thanks for your on-going servcice to your country, sir. (I say on-going, because there is no greater service that anyone could do for their country over the next two years, than to do what they can to re-elect the President!)
Gibbs is the most gaff prone person and incompetent press secretary that I have ever seen in all my years of listening to these people. I could not believe that obama had not thrown him out before this. It will be easy finding a better replacement.
Reading all of the 'insightful' comments from the Faux & Freaks Crowd below only proves we really have lowered the bar in this country when it comes to education...
Not an original thought out of a one of them just more parroting of the daily Fox 'buzz' words! lol
Such compassionate Christian conservatives... *insert snark*
Poor old Gibbs did his job well. It's hard for him to make an idiot like his boss look good.
This is not a great surprise. Our President needed a Press Secretary who was part of the inner circle and one whom he could trust. Axe, Gibbs and Plouffe knew how to get Obama elected and in fact the 2012 campaign has begun. Perhaps the three of them will figure out how to neutralize Fox Noise. That is the task at hand.
Ron
Why would you want to silence Fox? They are the only middle of the road perspective. Fair and balanced doesn't sound good? Go live in SanFrancisco with all the "Progressives!"
Thanks for a job well done Robert Gibbs!
(Talk about a thankless job, lol.)
Fiesty, are you for real? All Christians are mean? I love your posts... they are so insightful-not. I have this image of you sitting and kissing the TV screen every time those two dopes Keith and Maddow are on their pointless programs, spreading their lies and filth.
FeistyRedhead??? Take your snarky education comments somewhere else or find yourself a hobby.
FEISTY..
Compassionate Christian Conservatives haven't lied, cheated and barged their way into private citizens lives! If this POTUS is allowed to continue, we're all screwed! He bypasses the proper way of doing things, he's sneaky, underhanded and heavyhanded (Chicago style) with everything he does. Where is his transparancy? Where is the proof about his birth certificate? Why does he associate with known Socialists? Hell, he has even modeled his life and career after them! Why did he use different names in order to get foreign tuition assistance? Why is he ALWAYS on vacation? He is on televison more than ANY other potus in history! Take his crayons and que cards away and he is lost! How much was spent on his last trip when virtually the entire Whitehouse traveled with him? Talk about a careless and deliberate waste of the taxpayers money. This idiot needs to just fade away....
Fiesty:
You always seem to have some smart azz shyt to say about people who do not agree with your brand of politics. Why don't you just STFU sometimes. You are a shyt starter along with your other buddies. There are some people who dislike Gibbs. He is not loved by everyone.
Ron:
What is this neutralize Fox News nonsense. How about we neutralize those out of control azzholes on MSNBC everyday that you worship. 2012 is a totally different animal. That goofy Plouffe aspires to be a Rove type but he is a lightweight in comparison. The media has hyped him up to be some untouchable expert in the art of campaigning. I guess the liberals never had a Rove type and are attempting to equate the two. Obama would have won that election without Plouffe, McCain was terrible and most Conservatives dislike him anyway.
If you want to "neutralize the Fox noise" it is simple -- turn the station. Wow that was difficult. You don't like what they have to say so let's get rid of Fox? Ron just wants to clear the field so MSNBC can have their lovefest with Obama uninterupted.
Thanks heavens Gibbs is leaving. Perhaps, now we will have a press secy who can answer questions....rather than hesitating....and constantly getting mixed up and not having bungled answers. He probably is the WORST press secy in history that I can recall. As far as Pelosi - good grief - have the delusional person in charge who leaves in her rhinestone la la land. She drove/drives us crazy with all her ridiculous remarks re Obama care i.e., now that we pass the bill, we can now read it to know what is it. Not funny even as a joke to suggest her name for this job.
What's with you people who said things like "Thanks for a job well done" and "He did a GREAT job?" He was absolutely the worst press secretary I've ever seen, and that goes back to the Kennedy administration.
Gibbs is a moron way out of his league, and Axelrod is a self avowed "moonie" with more than a brown nose, he has a brown neck! Feisty is just one of the last blinded by hope who can't see what a failure this administration is!
Thanks to all of you above for confirming my observation! lmao!
Oh and ITM - not too obvious you haven't smacked the Mrs. around yet today! So much pent up anger for such a little man! ;o)
I personally liked Gibbs. His press conferences were entertaining. He could barely hide his disdain for stupid questions and the people who asked them. More than once, he looked like he was gonna hurl or at least had a mouth full of bile while having to answer the same question over and over again.
He developed a pretty good sneer that could be useful in politics...or professional wrestling.
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Reading all of the 'insightful' comments from the Faux & Freaks Crowd below only proves we really have lowered the bar in this country when it comes to education...
Not an original thought out of a one of them just more parroting of the daily Fox 'buzz' words! lol
Such compassionate Christian conservatives... *insert snark*
I am with Feisty all the way. Very articulate, very astute comments from someone not brainwashed by Limbaugh, O Reilly, Savage, Hannity, Fox, et al. The media that calls itself fair and balanced is a propaganda machine. And those who consume and digest their sawdust can only see it as "fair and balanced" because it is all they hear or see. Fictions assumed as fact. As for Gibbs, I love the guy, especially when he stood up to Hannity in the campaign. Maybe he is better in the campaign.
How soon we forget how the previous 8 years got us into this mess! Everybody seems to forget how we got into the Bush's. They got us soo far into the Bush's, that Obama has been used as a Scapegoat to cover up all the underhanded things that the Bush's did!!! Please, gve me a break!
Hopefully they can get someone who can actually speak a sentence without saying "'uhmmmmmmmmmm" every other word. As someone who speaks before crowds a lot in my professional duties, it will be refreshing to be able to actually comprehend what the press secretary is trying to say. Anyone who speaks in front of crowds, especially on T.V. should be able to practice so they won't use "uhmmmmmm" as often as he does.
Being Press Secretary is a very difficult job, but if I used "uhmmmmmm" every other word as Mr. Gibbs does, I would be relieved of my duties. Part of the job is being able to think on their feet
In my limited exposure to this blog/thread/whatever, Feisty has been one thing and one thing only: consistent. The fact that she is consistently wrong is an opinion shared by most of the intelligent folk who visit here occasionally. Just a quick glance at her geographic location should send up the warning flag. I ought to know. I WAS a resident of the peoples republic of Illinois for 20 years and I am sorry to say that. I was sent there by the military and stayed there because I lived in a county that was almost completely populated by republicans. So for those who collapsed her comment, that was probably a useless gesture. She reminds me of my mother-in-law who automatically votes for the democrat party regardless of who is running. By the way, my mother in law is also a resident of the pr of Il.
Carter and Clinton GOT us into this mess- pushing for irresponsible people to buy houses they couldn't afford- geez wake up!
The White House Press corps has bent over backwards being nice to the Obama administration. Imagine if Gibbs had had to defend a non Democrat. Please. The man would have left the 2nd day.
Please do Sean... it will be the quickest way to get you bounced from this board!
What a fine upstanding Christian you are, talking about driving someone to kill themself! Do you kiss your mother with that mouth?
Ready... Set... Go... let the collapsing begin!
Dasvet - less like by Republicans. But then, who DO Republicans like? No one!
Patrick????? Did you actually say "the sharks in the White House Press Corp"???????? Did you ACTUALLY say that??????? Those "sharks" have done nothing but lob him softballs since the Administration took office!
Fiesty is just a dumber-than-dog-snot moron who will continually post childist trash about anyone who has a disagreeing belief system from hers. The child can't help it, for it raises her self-worth by posting such comments.
She's not, unfortunately, original nor is she spouting anything more than non-original thoughts from the left-wing blogs.
The comic book character is finally leaving. Maybe they can get Homer Simpson to replace him, he has a much higher IQ.
Sharks? 2011 press core question: How upset is the president over these killings? 2008 press core question when did the president know this was going to happen and why didn't he personally stop it. Even when Gibbs get a real question it's not like it ever leaves the room.
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Reading all of the 'insightful' comments from the Faux & Freaks Crowd below only proves we really have lowered the bar in this country when it comes to education...
Not an original thought out of a one of them just more parroting of the daily Fox 'buzz' words! lol
Such compassionate Christian conservatives... *insert snark*
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This is not a great surprise. Our President needed a Press Secretary who was part of the inner circle and one whom he could trust. Axe, Gibbs and Plouffe knew how to get Obama elected and in fact the 2012 campaign has begun. Perhaps the three of them will figure out how to neutralize Fox Noise. That is the task at hand.
Hey Fiesty, you seem to have upset the retardicans. You go girl!
They are so stupid that they forget that alot of the services they get from government is socialist in nature like the police and fire departments they so love and the library system that they hardly use because they are such idiots that they don't know what a book is because of their constant vigils watching fox news. Even the Army is socialist based with the free socialist medical healthcare system that they are so afraid of.
These retardicans don't even know that america is the only country without socialized medicine that's not a 3rd world country and that we rank the lowest in medical standards among the civilized countries. Even Cuba's medical system is better than ours. Heck, everyone else enjoys $10 or less medicines while americans pay over $100 for the same medicine.
Yeah, the retardicans love to save the babies and then kill everyone else if they are not "useful" to corporate america and keep everyone endentured through debt. Then they retire and sit on their fat butts whining about everything like the cheap a$$ turds they are.
And before some retardican tries to tell if I don't like it I can leave, they can "PAY" for me to leave if they don't like what I say. They can't handle the truth about themselves so they close their ears to anything that comes from something else besides Faux News. They're so stupid they only come up with insults instead of solutions because they are too stupid to come up with answers that don't involve killing people to solve problems like immigration, welfare, crime, and foreign affairs.
I see retardicans do the same thing over and over online of insulting others who don't agree with them and then doing the same thing they claim others do to them. All they want to do is piss on other people which is why I'm more than happy to piss on them in return to let them see how it feels to recieve what they dish out to others. Of course, they are to delusional to think they do anything wrong which will prove me right about them. they open their ignorant mouths and spout off about my post because they can't help themselves and they'll have to get the last word in to make themselves feel better because nothing makes them feel better than to be an arse to someone else that they are looking to hate just like gay who go out and hate on christians and then whine about being treated badly.
Well, yeah, if you people weren't such shyts to each other, then maybe others would be nicer to you.
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Funny Patrick - I was thinking the same thing...
Two years of being 'chum' for the pool of sharks is enough to make anyone run for the hills! lol
I wish Robert the best and am sure he will continue to be a positive asset to the Obama administration in whatever capacity they utilize him!
Thanks for the shout out dragonus!
Nothing more entertaining than drawing these right wing nitwits out from under their rocks and exposing them as the hateful hypocrites they really are!
Bonus points are awarded for those who call for someone to commit suicide!
I've said repeatedly that it's no wonder there is a bullying epidemic in this country - look at the a@@holes who are the parents!
Crystal-569996
Carter and Clinton GOT us into this mess- pushing for irresponsible people to buy houses they couldn't afford- geez wake up
Uh...Crystal were you absent from the planet 2000-2008??? Did you forget about 2 UNFUNDED WARS? UNFUNDED MED PART D?
And I, for one, have not run into one single person who can show me the twist marks on their arms for signing a mortgage.
My point, you can't possibly point the finger at one or even two administrations. There were so many players in this game of chance...going back as far as Reagan. And if you'll pay attention to a little history, Eisenhower warned us about the military industrial complex decades ago....so how many fingers do you have to point with???
And the fix to all of it...a combination of SOUND LEGISLATION and PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY.
And to no surprise, the retardican pots are calling the liberal kettles black.
Look in the mirror and hate yourselves instead of each other.
Both sides, try to come up with a solution instead of coming to a blog for the sole purpose to insult the other side.
As a moderate I have the luxury of insulting both sides. It's just that the retardicans are giving me more ammo to use.
Everyone has the right to be stupid, but you all are abusing the privilege.
There is no trick to being a humorist when you have the whole government working for you.
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So true Girl friend, the freaks don't come at night. They come out on FR daily spewing right wing dribble. They can lie and pontificate daily; but can't allow others the same courtesy. What are they so afraid of that they must constantly collapse yours and my posts? Oh, I got it the loons on the right who collapse posts fear that someone may read an opposing view.
Speaking of freaks, the prophet for profit, Glenn Beck, got dumped over low ratings by his New York radio station (New Yorkers) weren't buying his bullsh!t. His ratings were lower than when the AM station played Spanish music. Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha. Let's see, the prophet Glenn Beck has had other recent radio cancellations, the boycott, and dismal sales on books and his one-man stage show (hoaxes)appearances.
I think Bill Burton who is also biracial and young will be an excellent choice. He's very articulate and can kick @ss.
Bush's White House Press Secretaries were like "we will slaughter them all." something the Iraqi Information Minister Bagdad Bob would say.
Bush's White House Press Secretary Dana Maria Perino was/is clueless still after all these years.
looks like msn is collapse happy again. way to stand up for freedom of speech.
had to laugh at the 1st comment, "sharks in the press corp." the media has sucked obama from day one.
I love these comments from conservative trolls. Conservatives have never done one good thing for humanity. In fact, everything they have ever done has been to the detriment of humanity.
Conservative christians took a legitimate religion and twisted it until it suited their own selfish goals. Jesus would have been disgusted with most conservatives.
Anyone saying Faux news is middle of the road must be off their meds.
I was not a particular fan of Gibbs as he appeared arrogant (to me) early on. In fairness to him, however, he had one hell of a difficult job trying to cover for the Prez. and his incompetent administration. Politics, by its nature, is populated with so many disingenuous characters (both political parties) that the spokesperson (s) for each-which certainly includes the White House Press Secty.-are by default endlessly, rightly or wrongly, "CYAing" for the higher ups. Wikileaks does have its uses, but hopefully, with judgment such that lives (of those HONESTLY doing their jobs) are not placed in jeopardy.
Don't let the door hit you on the way out!!!!
VermontGirl, the twist marks you are referring to would be on the arms of Fannie and Freddie, as well as the investment banks that were pressured to lower credit restrictions so people with lower income and bruised credit could buy houses.
I agree with you about the blame being placed over several administrations.
I also agree with you about the SOUND LEGISLATION and PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY. Both of which are in short supply at this time in history.
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Reading all of the 'insightful' comments from the Faux & Freaks Crowd below only proves we really have lowered the bar in this country when it comes to education...
Not an original thought out of a one of them just more parroting of the daily Fox 'buzz' words! lol
Such compassionate Christian conservatives... *insert snark*
The housing market was caused by Bush easing up on regulations at the request of Wall street investors who wanted to get rich off of a new scheme they hatched which was sub-prime lending.
Hey Fiesty.....rally glad to see that you have the panties of all these "mental conservatives" in a bunch. Keep on posting, they'll keep on collapsing your posts because killing the messenger is all that FAUX NOISE taught them, and I'll keep on laughing....
LOL! And YOUR comments qualify as original?
i must agree with red head we sure did lower the bar, look at what we voted into the white house. as for gibbs, one more scum bag bites the dust BYE BYE STUPID
Fiesty I read many of your post before A typical lib comments and statements, But wow you put your foot in it this time. LOL
Oh, brother... listen to yourselves. Maybe YOU can also go to work for the White House in the largest Ponzi scam that ever existed
Dragonus, you are kinda like the independents in Congress. You tend to caucus with the Democrats.
As far as blaming Bush for easing restrictions on the secondary mortgage market, you are incorrect. The POTUS does not have that power. That lies with Congress, who just so happened to be majority Dem in 2007 when the restrictions were eased.
Feisty... you are obviously living on a different planet or perhaps in ObamaLand heading up one of the Rducation (and I use the term loosely) Camps (please refer to Second World War European Theater and also 1984 by George Orwell, guessing you can read). Have you been listening to yourself? You sound like a rabid badger, a rebel without a clue? Are you happy with Obamanomics, Obamacare, and Obamadrama? Oh, I get it... you're sitting at home with your mortgage paid by ObamaWorks, living on the public dole (you can look that one up), and are possibly being paid for vomiting up your uninformed nonsensical garbage. Go back to your cave, you of cloven hooves. Remember, if you really had any gumption at all, you can further use our taxpayer dollars to fund your edcation (free to you, of course) sponsored by ObamaUniversity. You sicken me.
Feisty,
Like most Democrats, you seem to know whats best regardless of what the community thinks. I don't feel Ron's post should have been collapsed either. But it was done so because enough people thought it should be. That's how this chat board works. So stop twisting the rules to meet only what YOU think is right. we get enough of that out of Washington.
Sean, please take note. You can make a point with out violating the COH.
I cannot answer for Feisty, but as for myself, I am quite happy with the way Obama has run things these past two years given the circumstances he inherited. Things are beginning to look up, much to the chagrin of all you right-wing nutjobs, consequently you are all out in full force, making your snarky comments and hate-filled rhetoric without any let-up. You never pass on any opportunity you are given to slam Obama and his administration. As if ANY Republican administration was better. You are all so full of hate it is just spewing out of you without restraint. You conservatives are all foaming at the mouth because of what Obama has accomplished so now you are more full of bile than ever. Oh, and be sure to "collapse" me community!!! After all, any good words about Obama cannot be posted! You all know that most members of any President's administration usually leave after two years. It happens in all Administrations. The people who are leaving Obama will still continue to work on his re-election, which will happen in 2012, because you Rethuglicants got NO ONE good enough to beat him!!
I can't believe yet another of Obama's closest counsel is leaving the White House. I wonder what it is about the culture of the President's inner circle that makes it harder for him to retain these trusted members longer than has been the trend. I read an interesting article about the biggest quits of 2010 at http://bit.ly/ekh6mv and it gave me new insight. Such a timely article, I was literally reading it at the same time I saw the feed about Gibbs
I thought that most of the people on this board were like me and ignoring posts by Feisty. You can get a lot more intelligent posts on the page when it says "You are ignoring this author."
Ignoring an author is a form of willful ignorance, an indication of a lesser mentality.
Gibbs was entertaining and the king of uh, uh, and uh. Will the next one have a vocabulary that omits the uh, uh, syndrome?
Gibbs is leaving to make more money (he makes $174k from us tax payers) Nice!
You Obama lovers really are buffoons Crush you again in 2012
Naw, Gibbs is leaving because Obama took an interview with Fox News on Super Bowl Sunday. LOL
Gibbs, was the worst PS in the history of the republic! A condescending, arrogant, blow hole and it will be fantastic not seeing his pale greasy mug on TV every day. The Obama scum is starting to seep away finally; Emmanual, Pelosi, Axelrod, what a great week!
DAM!!! Are we going back into election mode ALREADY?!?!?!?!?!?
Yes. Elections begin on the day they end.
Hello! It's next year.
All the "Campaigner-in-Chief" has DONE since he was elected is CAMPAIGN!
While unemployment was at almost 10%.......he spent three (3) months campaigning Around the country for the mid-term elections....in backyard parties and on every college campus he could......AND his wife........And Biden........And Clinton!
We have NO leader!
Uh........adios.........uh.......Mr. Gibbs..........Uh!
Wow.......Pelosi AND Gibbs gone from my TV! Yahoo!
BinNH Obama never got out of election mode and I hope we the tax payer are not still paying his wages.
Wow - conservatives...saying Obama campaigns too much...
Y'all make me giggle!
"jonbogreen"
Did you miss the "white shirt with rolled up sleeves" August, September, October, November ?
He should be a snake oil salesman!
See Patty, that's what a campaign is SUPPOSED to look like...for the last 4 MONTHS before the election!
Republican'ts spent the whole last two years campaigning, and even after the "shellacking", your Senate leader said "Our most important legislative priority over the next two yrs. is to un-elect Obama at the end of it." That's not a legislative agenda - that's sour grapes 'cause my home state (CO) and CA kept you from taking the Senate, which would actually BE powerful, instead of legislatively impotent!
Y'all blowhards in the House will investigate and subpeona and Blow - HARD...for the next two years. Meanwhile while actual legislation doesn't happen AT ALL, the economy will continue to improve by the leaps and bounds we're just starting to see now. Obama gets all the credit, wins re-election in a walk, and then...
Michelle for America 2016 !!!
Retired,
What Air Force did you retire from, the Luftwaffe?
Obammy? We know what you are trying to do there with your passive aggressive racially charged epitaph - reminiscent of the old south. With ol' mammy and her sharecropping family. I have lived in the south all my life, and I have heard them all - many times - you can't fool me. You can try and deny it, but if its not true - please enlighten us....
I would like to thank you for your service, but would also like to point out that this type of disrespect for the very office you took an oath to defend - is appalling. That is, if you are truly a retired from the AF - and even remember the oath you took. That oath doesn't end when you retire - and I would find it highly unlikely that you would of mocked Regan or Bush Sr in this fashion. You would probably threaten to go toe-to-toe with anyone who did though, right.
My father was a retired AF vet, fought in the Pacific during WWII (5th AF/3rd Group/13th Squadron), and although he loathed Clinton - he had nothing but respect for the office, the country, and its elected leaders. While Clinton had obvious flaws, through it all my father was a classy guy - being an honorable military man he never once disrespect or insulted him. Thats how real heroes act, they participate in civil discourse as an adult without resulting to grade school/playground tactics. It seems all the real heroes are dying off - and all we have left is misguided angst filled hate mongers. What has happened to this country?
But the scary part is that there are people that would vote for her (women, black) OH SH*T
Michelle Malkin - A good choice you have for 2016. Or did you mean that racist Mrs. Hussien Obama. Leaps and bounds of what. This administration has not created any jobs, raised unemployment much higher than they said it would ever reach, and passed Obama care with out even reading the bill. That is really smart politics. All we are doing is heading toward Socialism at a fast pace. By the way did bama ever come up with a real birth certificate? Oh yeah born in Kenya. Good riddens to Gibbs and Axelrod, they can't even make excuses for Hussein Obamas lack of intelligence.
Yeah, "Air Force" - your response leaves absolutely nothing to be desired from an intelligence standpoint. Really...top notch...
...and I know the fear behind your eyes. You wanna disguise it in "policy disagreements", but Obama's smarter than you and your 30 best friends put together, so you can't even enter the policy discussion in any logical way...what you try to disguise is your revulsion at the idea of a dude with MUCH darker skin than yours in the White House (for 14 more years, if Michelle runs!) Get used to the idea! ('cause evolution only moves in one direction, and you're on the end of that spectrum we scientists call "the Dying Off"!)
ps. "it's all your fault" - great post! Absolutely it's covert racism (the only kind of racism we'll allow those a$$es to preactice anymore!!! Keep up the good work bringing up the IQ ave. in the South!!)
Prove it! You cant, you just worship him and want that to be true so bad you have convinced yourself with absolutely no evidence.
Pretty lame.
I thought elected officials were supposed to run the checks and balances of the country. Instead we get 2 years of blaming a predecessor, and 3 years of campaigning for the party (for re-election). This sounds too much like selling winter clothes in summer, summer clothes in winter. having Valentines day stuff on the shelfs before December 25th (you get the picture). Hey Washington D.C. - Get your butts back to work and do the jobs we pay you to do. Quit wasting our tax dollars by not doing your jobs!
17-17: The first 5 words of your post say EVERYTHING we need to know about taking you seriously...
...and yeah, keep talkin' birth certificate...right up thru Michelle's 2020 re-election...PLEASE (it makes my side look even smarter than we are...)
As a scientist, your considered opinion is that anyone who dislikes the president is a racist? Thats it? No peer revue? No published body of work establishing your theory as plausible. What discipline is your scientific degree in? Astrology?
Seventeen17,
Is that your age and/or your IQ? Either way, your post serves as the strongest indictment I've seen to date of the sorry state of education in this country.
And it makes me all the more prouder of my 17 year old son and his willingness to do the research required to get beyond all the BS that clouds political discourse in the U.S. so he can form informed, reasoned, and thoughtful opinions.
You should invest in a good manure shovel. You'll need it.
Patty this is a listing of what Bush/Cheney did while in the White House:
You didn't get mad when the Supreme Court stopped a legal recount and appointed a President.
You didn't get mad when Cheney allowed Energy company officials to dictate Energy policy and push us to invade Iraq.
You didn't get mad when a covert CIA operative got outed.
You didn't get mad when the Patriot Act got passed.
You didn't get mad when we illegally invaded a country that posed no threat to us.
You didn't get mad when we spent over 800 billion (and counting) on said illegal war.
You didn't get mad when Bush borrowed more money from foreign sources than the previous 42 Presidents combined.
You didn't get mad when over 10 billion dollars in cash just disappeared in Iraq.
You didn't get mad when you found out we were torturing people.
You didn't get mad when Bush embraced trade and outsourcing policies that shipped 6 million American jobs out of the country.
You didn't get mad when the government was illegally wiretapping Americans.
You didn't get mad when we didn't catch Bin Laden.
You didn't get mad when Bush rang up 10 trillion dollars in combined budget and current account deficits.
You didn't get mad when you saw the horrible conditions at Walter Reed.
You didn't get mad when we let a major US city, New Orleans, drown.
You didn't get mad when we gave people who had more money than they could spend, the filthy rich, over a trillion dollars in tax breaks.
You didn't get mad with the worst 8 years of job creations in several decades.
You didn't get mad when over 200,000 US Citizens lost their lives because they had no health insurance.
You didn't get mad when lack of oversight and regulations from the Bush Administration caused US Citizens to lose 12 trillion dollars in investments, retirement, and home values.
You finally got mad when a black man was elected President and decided that people in America deserved the right to see a doctor if they are sick. Yes, illegal wars, lies, corruption, torture, job losses by the millions, stealing your tax dollars to make the rich richer, and the worst economic disaster since 1929 are all okay with you, but helping fellow Americans who are sick...
LOL
I will move out of the country if the Obama's are in the WHITE House for 14 more years. I do not think the DNC would put itself through that kind of horor by selecting Michelle my belle for a run at the WHITE House. That would be politacal suicide. Hillary would be on the ticket before Michelle. It has nothing to do with the color of skin it is the common sense of who is in there. Common sense is just not that common in America anymore.
Sunshine52,
You rock!!!
You finally got mad when a black man was elected
Give me a break........... Why does it have to be about race???? If he were the right person for the job nobody would care if he was green, fact of the matter is he sucks and until you figure that out you will continue to use any card you can to defend this imposter. I will admit he is my President , however not a very good one. I would have rather had Hillary in the WHITE House than Obama. I would venture to say she can atleast think and do for herself and not listen to all the buddy buddy people Obama has made a part of his cabinet. Besides Hillary does not have any friends so she could not put any on her staff. Gibbs is a blubering idiot who can't complete a sentence without stalling for the answer ..... uh..... uh .... uh and that is my uh ... uh opinion.
Sunshine52....
So very true, now all the right wing is up in arms!
Hypocrits.....What are they thinking? Oh, that's impossible for them, since it's not about 'country first', and never has been!
The right wing is used to deliver the message of the corporate giants who control the elected members of congress!
@srfrag (post 2.10):
I REALIZE YOU meant your post to Retired to be a cheap dig referring to the Nazi era but just to educate you: the Luftwaffe is also the name of the German air force today, attached to the Bundeswehr. The Swiss Air Force, for example, is called the Schweizer Luftwaffe. So, with this in mind, he actually could be retired from a Luftwaffe somewhere in the world. Now with your history lesson over, why don't you listen to your mommy, turn her computer off, go to your room and take a nap. You'll feel much better.
Sunshine - you're absolutely right. It's all about race but the racists won't admit it. Had Obama been anything but black they would still have attacked him - just not so visciously. Their ignorance and racism cannot be masked not matter how hard they try. And, to the right wingers on this site - Bush campaigned the entire time he was in office - never stopped. So I'm sure you had a problem with that, right? Of course not - he was "one of the boys." Please - grow up! We actually have a President that has brought us new respect in the world and who is doing a good job for us.
To
Todd Coffman,
Your good friend, Rush promised to leave the country if Health Care passed. The bastard is still polluting the airwaves. Promise you'll keep your promise, OK? Notice how he capitalized WHITE HOUSE, and feigns being offended and insulted because the "race card" was mentioned. PLEASE!
I think they should only be allowed to campaign for two months. If you can't tell me what you stand for in two months then you obviously don't know.
Yes.. Thats it. its all about Race. We just dont like the Half White man in the Oval office.
OhhNho - (Ohh, Nho, Revue...Methinks YOU could use a degree in "Spelling"...)
examples of NOT-EVEN-ALL-THAT-COVERT-racism just in this one thread:
(notice the emphasis of the cap's - author did that, not me)
(surprise, surprise...that guy's from TX!)
(not her name, she's OBVIOUSLY not a racist, and this blogger started his piece by admiring Michelle Malkin...'nuff said!)
(pathetic)
(if you don't know why that's racist, go to middle school history class, go directly to middle school history class; do not pass go, do not collect $200!)
...and I could keep going, just from this one thread, and eventually you'd get the impression that I was quoting the same person over and over...but no! Less than 25 posts to pick from, 5 of which are mine, and I'm still going on just ONE racist quote per author!!!
Mary P - best post of the day!
Our Gov-elect Hickenlooper (D) here in Colorado didn't really start "campaigning" until the (R) primary was completed in August. That left plenty of time for him to get his message out. And to boot...he refused to do any negative ads. It was a breath of fresh air!!!
Because it is about race. Obama has been the most vetted and scrutinized president in U.S. history. There are still "birthers" out there who are demanding further proof of citizenship. Everything (and I do mean everything) that this president does is met with misinformation and hate from sources like fox noise. In my 40 years in this country I have never seen such hate, spin and outright lies being spewed.
The Tea Party would have never existed if Obama had not been elected. Their one and only goal is to see that the black man doesn't get another term.
VTGirl - Heya fellow Coloradan! Yeah, Hickenlooper is awesome! That's what a CLASSY candidate does when he/she is the presumptive nominee.
What do Republican'ts do when they have a presumptive nominee? Well, in states retarded enough to have "open primaries" they bomb the Dem primary so we end up with a homeless guy for our nominee. Only way they can win is to ensure an unfair fight (and that happened in the Carolina's! How much MORE unfair do they need it to be!!!)
W. Goin--HUH? @it's-all-your-fault (post 2.11)--What you say about respect for the office of the Pres. and polite discourse is all well and good (and I agree completely), but consider those of the left persuasion and their snarky appellations for Bush such as "shrub" et al. I hope you are equally condemning of those people.
Sunshine52: I'm in love with you. The right-wing is in love with themselves today.
You still have not produced a single established fact for your conclusions. You've taken a few mildy overt statements from three or four posters on this blog and have extrapolated those to reperesent the country as a whole as a basis for your "scientific conclusions". Perhaps your science is proof reading. You did catch my mis-spelling.
1st of all, when it comes to racism, there's no such thing as "mildly overt" - that's kinda like being 1/2 pregnant...
2nd - Sorry, forgot to answer your question earlier - I'm a botanist. (PhD).
3rd - I wasn't extrapolating it to mean the entire country, just the racists...and I cited 5 of them. You see, science isn't ALL experimentation followed by peer review. Sometimes it's observation, followed by definitive statement of fact. No peer review neccasary for "The sky is blue" or "Water is wet". Similarly, there's no peer review neccasary for " 'Obammy' is a racist-pig thing to say"
go back to studying why bugs eat cotton
JonboGreen PhD, you misspelled necessary. LOL! Sorry, that's all I had.
BigB: You're absolutely right, thaanx :)
Penguin: We finished that one a LITTLE while ago - onto flying squids, and what they can teach us about aerodynamics and jet propulsion. (yeah, dabble a bit of Physics too!)
I would guess that two years talking to those jackals in the media is enough for anyone-now as a campaign guy he can be more vocal in his support of the President outside the trappings of the WH.
Considering the way the press treated the press Secretary during the Bush administration they treated Gibbs like a fragile piece of porcelain. He couldn't stand up to them because he had to defend the indefensible.
I did not know that Kings and Czars had elections.
Were you at Binh Thuy? If so when I was 69
binh_thuy - did you know that Rep. Paul Ryan the new committee on the budget chairman is called a czar. In fact, he was the speechwriter to "drug czars" William Bennett and Jack Kemp both Republicans.
Thank GOD - that guy was a HORRIBLE Press Secretary. My goodness, Porky The Pig could speak better in public than that mushmouth. Between stuttering, mumbling and low talking I'm surprised ANYONE knew what was happening at the White House.
Bob, you never caught on that this was his delaying tactic schtick? His stammer is deliberate.
" surprised ANYONE knew what was happening at the White House."
so that would actually make him a great Psec.
So we're getting rid of him or it, so now we got da get rid of the tella promptor, then the one reading it so we can get a real president.
Bob; you should apply for the job, since you are so much more GLIB than Gibbs. :)
Tom, the ignorance of your post is unbelievable. All recent Presidents - including Regan - have used teleprompters. Yes, it did not help Bush but nothing could. Every major public speaker has used teleprompters for years and anyone with even a rudimentary knowledge of public speaking would know this.
W.Goin; as I understand it, "Ronnie" NEVER went anywhere without his 3x5 cards. :)
I like Gibbs. I'm gonna miss him. I hope he's effective in getting Obama re-elected.
LOL, That's the best joke I've heard all week!!!
Boooooo
I Hope NOT!!!
yes, i hope, my president, is re-elected. this is the frist pres. that is doing his best.
Struggling musician...haha!
struggling - he will be.
He will be missed.
Obama or Gibbs ??
Yeah he'll be missed like the gout
neither
No one going to miss Gibbs now - or 0bummer in Jan 2013.
You won't have to miss him. Gibbs is going on to work for Obama's re-election (and you're going to have a much longer wait than 13 to miss Obama too.)
I always listen to Gibbs' Press Briefings. I can't imagine who could do that job better. I might like to see someone like Randi Rhoads do that job - but we need her on the radio. I just cannot think who else would do that job better - Gibbs has a great sense of humor and makes me want to hear the whole briefing.
Ever hear of Tony Snow?
Aman brother, RIP
I would love to see Rachel Maddow in that role.
I nominate Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson!
Gibbs has a great sense of humor and makes me want to hear the whole briefing.
Are you outside of your mind??????? This guy talked with marbles in his mouth, he could have cut his briefings in half if he knew how to eliminate UH..... UH out of his vocabulary. What a waste of skin this guy is.
Todd - you don't have a clue.
Wait a minute, didn't the president just tell the Repubs that the election isn't for another 2 years, they don't need to be worrying about it....I guess another case of do as I say not as I do....Lets hope at any rate that someone better suited for the job gets it, Gibbs was a smartbutt :-)
The only other person with less competence left in the White House is OBAMA! When he leaves, will be the first day he did something POSITIVE for this country. The SOONER-The BETTER!
Good luck Alan with your Republican agenda. Only someone who is truely ill informed could possibly be lead to believe that Obama hos done absolutely nothing for America... There was just some brain scans done and it appears that the fear section of the brain is enlarged in conservatives... have fun with that!!!
Why don't you do something positive for our country...like the next time you vote republican for president, make sure he or she is not as dumb as the last one. Voting for Bush twice says a lot about you as a thinking human. YOU WEREN'T!!!! So why should we listen to your opinion
You probably can't wait for Palin, Newt or one of those other "intellectuals" to become President, right? I am no seer, but I predict that within the next 2 years ALL AMERICANS will have had their fill of Republicans and their "plan" for America. Unfortunately, by that time, America will be toast. Happy New Year!
You probably can't wait for Palin, Newt or one of those other "intellectuals" to become President, right? I am no seer, but I predict that within the next 2 years ALL AMERICANS will have had their fill of Republicans and their "plan" for America. Unfortunately, by that time, America will be toast. Happy New Year!
It is already toast, thanks to the 3 Amigos(Obama,Pellosi, Reid) more wastefull spending than all previous Presidents combined (yes including Bush) and nothing to show for it except a piece of garbage Health care bill that should be toilet paper. Oh yea jobs created census workers that does not count. This is a big F---ing deal in the words of Joe Biden. He is right we need to stop this before it is too late. I am afraid it may already be there. I think you are wrong on the 2 yr time frame I think the reason republicans are where they are is because of the current administrations lack of testicular fortitude to get sh- t done, and if Obama does not come more to the center like Bill did he will not be much longer for the White House.
You haters remind me of the Ole' South that was blantant with it's hatred ! Now you attempt hide it and cloak it with " we don't like his policies ". I am amazed how "retired military men " speak against the Commander in Chief. My father was in WWII and thought it an honor to serve presidents even those whose "policies"he did not always agree with. WILL SOMEONE DEFINE TREASON for me. We are in the midst of TWO WARS, how dare we speak against the sitting President as some of you are doing and had the gall to do it on FORiegn soil. What is Treason ?????
Alan - I'm always amused at those of you who claim Obama is incompetent but who clearly voted for the moron Bush. You just don't understand what intelligence is and it clearly makes you uncomfortable to have someone intelligent in the White House. I'm sure your idea of intelligence is Glen Beck, Palin, O'Donnell. Pathetic!
Todd, Todd I must say your revisionist history of the events of the last 2 years is amazing. Obama's spent and wasted more money than ALL the previous President's combined? Please show us where you got that information? And please know you have to have those figures printed somewhere in black and white so they can be checked, not just pulled out of you a$$ like you've seemed to have done.
Alan-1380274
The only other person with less competence left in the White House is OBAMA! When he leaves, will be the first day he did something POSITIVE for this country. The SOONER-The BETTER!
As for Gibbs, he'll continue to work for the president but as an outside consultant, essentially setting up the Washington-arm of the Obama re-election campaign.
reading must be a skill, the artical says Gibb will remain as a outside consultant to the president, he is not jumping ship, he is being reassigned for the re-election campaign. if i'm not mustaken, after Bushs first term, he went through 2 press secetaries, a SS of state remeber Colin Powell and believe his head of CIA also quit.
so please don't too happy.
uh, uh, uh,....I'm speechless. The minion talking head is no more. Happy trails
Great Gibbs impression Beev.
President Obama has been forced into re-election mode due to bias he receives from the Republicans and the US conservative media. It's like the racist population and media woke up one day to realize the country is being governed by an African American. Governed quite well in my opinion.
Wow did you ever hit the nail on the head. The entire south got out of bed the day after the 2008 presidential election and started planning a lynching. Rush, Beck, O'reilly, Dick Army, Boehner, McConnell, and the Koch brothers are at the front of the mob leading the way. The only thing missing is their white hoods.
Knew that wouldn't take long for the stupidity to come out. You do know that the race card is all worn out and people are really getting sick and tired of all you people that have nothing better to say than the country is racist. You sir are just plain stupid
Your opinion is quite bigoted and just plain wrong.
The conservative media? You mean ONE news channel and AM radio vs NBC, CBS, MSNBC, ABC, CNN, the New York Times, The Washington Post, The Chicago Tribune, The LA Times, and the rest?
Not well thought out there....
openminded: amazing isn't it; and if they knew their history they would know that their reference to the KKK is in error; the KKK was the strong-arm of the Democratic Party.
OK - so he's half African! I'm a heinz-57, so to speak, does that make me a German, Italian, English, Dutch, Portugeese, Spanish, Indian-American?
Good luck Mr. Gibbs. You deserve a lot of credit for standing at the gate!
I was wondering when the race card would come out. Did all those who voted for him for president just wake up one day and decide that they would now become racists.
Why is it that it always have to be a racial thing, Can it not be that some just do not like his policies
Oh and last time I checked the majority of media was more liberal than conservative
well said !!!!!! totally agree !!!!!
The racists are tired of being identified as racists, poor things.
If you aren't unwilling to look like a racist, you're probably a racist. Change that, and the issue goes away.
Al, be for real. NBC, ABC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC etc are the most liberal outlets I have ever seen. The only time we get any real reporting is on Fox. I can name more Fox contributors(not just guests) that are liberal than conservatives on the other stations mentioned all added together.
Wow Mark the entire world is out to get you conservatives you only have one media outlet reporting what you want to hear so everybody else is wrong? You might want to think about that.
Conservative and media do not go in the same sentence. Our media all but kissed Obama's feet when he was running for election. It was quite disgusting.
Mark, I hope your comment was meant to be funny. Fox has no credability at all, and never will.
annirich, as a Hoosier, I can confirm that the KKK was not only an arm of the democratic party, it WAS the democratic party in Indiana. The KKK gained control of the entire state as DEMOCRATS all the way to the Governor himself about 100 years ago. THis is why to this day the state tends towards the republicans despoite being heavily industrial and union.
It is true, the DEMOCRAT Governer of Indiana was a high ranking memeber of the KKK - WHILE IN OFFICE.
Just try to find one member who is not a republican in todays KKK. It's funny how times change. The dems saw they were wrong and they changed and the racists went to the other party who welcomed them with open arms.
How about we have a news media that reports the GOOD AND BAD, why must they lean far left or far right? Isn't there anything in-between?
Jack, your opinion is what has no credibility. Learn to tell the difference between EDITORIAL OPINION and HARD NEWS.
Just because you do not agree with the editorial position of Fox News, that does not mean they do not report hard news just as accurately as the others.
Your lack of critical thinking is as plain as the sun in the sky.
mel
You are just plain lying if you claim the KKK is all republican, you can not support that so just admit it. People can tell when posters just make things up, and you are just making things up.
You also need to learn the difference between editorial content, which is OPINION, and hard news, which is fact. Just because you disagree with opinion, that does not mean it is wrong, just an opinion you do not agree with.
Our educational system at work once again.
Prove I am wrong what is your source that says I am wrong?
Obama has governed us right to the brink of poverty, maybe we can all be live on unemployment while he is spending his time campaigning, or better yet we we all be welfare and will soon be the poorest nation under the mighty Obama!!!
They are branded as FOX "NEWS". It is not supposed to be FOX "OPINION".
Mel, that is the dumbest post on the thread. YOU made the claim, YOU prove it. You can't, or you would.
Paul, you must not be aware that EVERY news organization has EDITORIAL and HARD NEWS content. Ever see a page in the paper called "Opinion"?
Live under a rock? You only notice it on Fox BECAUSE YOU DO NOT AGREE! That is intellectually dishonest and weak.
Find just one story about a liberal skin head and I will post links to over 40 stories about conservative skin heads who all have memberships to the NRA. You are the moron because you can't back up your claim.
mel, read this slowly, you claimed every KKK meemver was republican. Just proove it, one link that says that. How much more simple can it bee? YOU MADE THE CLAIM!
Also skinheads and KKK are not the same thing, and the NRA has pleanty of democrats as members, but that too is unrelated to the KKK.
I am a moron? YOU MADE THE CLAIM! I asked for proof and I am the moron?.....LMFAO@U
So what has he done except take vacations, run barrack hussein obama care through (without anyone reading the bill) raise unemployment, raise the national debt and take his wife out on dates. By the way I was proud of her when she said for the first time she can like America. He is 1/2 white to so does that make him a white president?
Those commenting about the KKK and its relationship to the democratic party are correct. As a black man I find it amuzing to associate repulicans with racist. However, it is true that a racist is more likely to be a republican than a democrat. That has more to do with the Jesse Helms of history fighting the Civil rights act and Richard Nixons Southern strategy pushing the party in a direction that appealed to those people. During reconstruction most people of color were republicans. And while I am a democrat, there are republicans, Snow- ME, that I agree with more than most Dems. If she became the majority of that party I would switch. These things move in cycles.
Come on Mel, use your head. If you post claims of one sort or another then you need to be able to back up those claims with established fact. What you are throwing out is nothing more than conjecture, opinion, wishful thinking and delusional theories that support your political dogma. Post facts that back up your claims and elevate your argument above the two year old sandbox level.
He has tried to save America from going down the toilet. The toilet that Bush, etal left flushing. I am amazed that people were unaware that unemployment was skyrocketing way BEFORE he even took the oath of office. And Seventeen17, would the country be in any less trouble if he were a 100% white president? Reading some of your posts, I believe your answer would be YES! The fact that he is 1/2 black and not 100% white is one of the reasons you see posts like yours. And for those of you getting all puffed up about "using the race card", read some of the crap posted here and tell it to the hand!!!!
The burden of proof is on you Mel. You are the one making a claim about the political leanings of an extreme fringe group. How do you know?
Sean, did you forget that in the 60s the democrats who had a huge majority in Congress, did not have the votes to pass the Civil Rights act? It took the 80% of REPUBLICANS voting yes to pass it because only 63% of DEMOCRATS voted yes.
And then there was Nixon:
The Nixon years witnessed the first large-scale integration of public schools in the South. Strategically, Nixon sought a middle way between the segregationist George C. Wallace and liberal Democrats, whose support of integration was alienating some Southern white Democrats. He was determined to implement exactly what the courts had ordered— desegregation — but did not favor busing children, in the words of author Conrad Black, "all over the country to satisfy the capricious meddling of judges.". Nixon, a Quaker, felt that racism was the greatest moral failure of the United States. and concentrated on the principle that the law must be color-blind: "I am convinced that while legal segregation is totally wrong, forced integration of housing or education is just as wrong.".
Nixon tied desegregation to improving the quality of education and enforced the law after the Supreme Court, in Alexander v. Holmes County Board of Education (1969), prohibited further delays. By the fall of 1970, two million southern black children had enrolled in newly created unitary fully integrated school districts; only 18% of Southern black children were still attending all-black schools, a decrease from 70% when Nixon came to office. Nixon's Cabinet Committee on Education, under the leadership of Labor Secretary George P. Shultz, quietly set up local biracial committees to assure smooth compliance without violence or political grandstanding. "In this sense, Nixon was the greatest school desegregator in American history," historian Dean Kotlowski concluded. Author Conrad Black concurred: "In his singular, unsung way, Richard Nixon defanged and healed one of the potentially greatest controversies of the time." Daniel Patrick Moynihan, Nixon's presidential counselor, commented in 1970 that “There has been more change in the structure of American public school education in the last month than in the past 100 years.”
In addition to desegregating public schools, Nixon implemented the Philadelphia Plan, the first significant federal affirmative action program in 1970. Nixon also endorsed the Equal Rights Amendment after it passed both houses of Congress in 1972 and went to the states for ratification as a Constitutional amendment.
Nixon had campaigned as an ERA supporter in 1968, though feminists criticized him for doing little to help the ERA or their cause after his election, which led to a much stronger women's rights agenda. Nixon increased the number of female appointees to administration positions. Nixon signed the landmark laws Title IX in 1972, prohibiting gender discrimination in all federally funded schools and the Equal Employment Opportunity Act. In 1970 Nixon had vetoed the Comprehensive Child Development Act, denouncing the universal child-care bill, but signed into law Title X, which was a step forward for family planning and contraceptives.
It was during the Nixon Presidency that the Supreme Court issued its Roe v. Wade ruling, legalizing abortion. First Lady Pat Nixon had been outspoken about her support for legalized abortion, a goal for many feminists (though there was a significant pro-life minority faction of the Women's Liberation Movement as well). Nixon himself did not speak out publicly on the abortion issue, but was personally pro-choice, and believed that, in certain cases such as rape, abortion was an option
Source, WIKIPEDIA, as liberal a source as you will find.
You might want to take a closer look...Just sayin.
I am amazed you are unaware that unemployment under Bush for the fist 6 years was 5% or lower, and the uptick coincides with the democrats taking control of Congress.
Wait a minute, not amazed at all as I have read your posts and biased inaccurate positions are the main ingredient.
Objectives:
The KKK's is a white supremacist group. It holds that only white, heterosexual Christians deserve civil rights. Its original mandate, to reverse the equality granted African -Americans after the Civil War has expanded as the social demographics of the United States have changed. It also opposes civil rights for Jews, gays, Catholics, and other ethnic and religious groups. Today, the various local groups that make up the Klan often focus their hate speech on immigrants.
Notable Attacks:
History and context:
The first KKK was formed in the American South at the end of the civil war, when the victorious Union government imposed a version of martial law on the south and began to enforce laws designed to end segregation against black citizens. When a constitutional amendment granted black men the right to vote in 1870, the group turned to intimidation and violence to try to halt de-segregation.
They used a variety of tactics to harass and intimidate blacks and sympathetic whites including putting burning crosses on the lawns of individuals, arson, riding in groups by horseback near communities they wanted to frighten, and beating, rape and lynching (hanging).
The group was outlawed in 1871 by Congress. It was revived again in 1915 as a paramilitary group. In the 1920s, the Klan had substantial political power, especially in the south. It is believed to have had as many as 5 million members in this period. This group also collapsed for a variety of reasons.
In World War II, the group was again revived. In the 1960s, it committed a number of high profile acts to protest civil rights advances. Local groups continue to hold meetings and rallies today. Its rallies, web sites and other expressions of its views are protected by the 1st Amendment right to free speech, as long as that speech is not intended to intimidate. A 2002 Supreme Court case established that cross burning is designed to intimidate and is therefore not protected expression.
The KKK is distinguished by its unusual costume of long robes and tall, pointy white hats. These were adopted by the first KKK and meant to represent Klansmen as ghosts of angry Confederates. These costumes are still worn today and serve as an intimidating symbol that recalls the violent history of the organization.
The Ku Klux Klan is a racist, anti-Semitic movement with a commitment to extreme violence to achieve its goals of racial segregation and white supremacy. Of all the types of right-wing hate groups that exist in the United States, the Klan remains the one with the greatest number of national and local organizations around the country.
More than 40 different Klan groups exist, many having multiple chapters, or “klaverns,” including a few that boast a presence in a large number of states. There are over a hundred different Klan chapters around the country, with a combined strength of members and associates that may total around 5,000.
After a period of relative quiet, Ku Klux Klan activity has spiked noticeably upwards in 2006, as Klan groups have attempted to exploit fears in America over gay marriage, perceived “assaults” on Christianity, crime and especially immigration.
During the Klans many reincarnations they gradually became southern racists who were primarily evangelical Christians who gravitated toward the republican party who espoused the ideals they liked. There is a ton of info about it. You like to think the Klan is what it used to be and not what it is today. They have a well documented history.
You still did not prove that ALL those 500 are republicans. This is what I am talking about. You do not even understand the problem with making black and white statements like that.
And you are now trying to say the the 5 million mostly democrat Klansman of the last century are somehow equivalent to the 5000 at most that exist today? FYI the KKK does not really exist anymore than the Nazi party. Just because a few fruitcakes dress up on weekends, that does not make them equivalent to the millions of dangerous people they wish they were part of.
You have no idea what you are talking about.
P.S. Even your post has inaccuracies. I am Italian, and Christian, but as a Catholic, I am just as hated by the KKK as a black man. The largest mass lynching in US history was not of black men, but ITALIAN CATHOLIC men, in New Orleans at the hands pof the KKK.
Al Davis, why in the world, pray thee tell, do you liberals always bring out the race card when anyone seems to disagree with your love of Obama? No compelling arguements to bring to the table other than the race card?
I was under the impression that this articulate, good looking black man (Biden statement) would end the issues of race in this country. It seems to me that you libs, and the black community, have done more to create a greater divide on race relations today.
Now Mel is compelled to discuss Kluxers........Since you brought up the subject Mel, don't forget that solid member of the hills who was the Grand PooBah Kluxer, Robert Bryd. and don;t forget that after the Second American Revolution, the Democratic Party was the major disinfranchiser of the black population. In my opinion, with their welfare programs and other social ills, the Dems still have this feeling from the 1860's: give them the dole and get the votes.
Just try to find one member who is not a republican in todays KKK. It's funny how times change. The dems saw they were wrong and they changed and the racists went to the other party who welcomed them with open arms.
Yes it is funny how things change. Try and find a member of the NAACP that is white, or the Black Panther Party or ACORN(okay ACORN may be a strech) these are racist organizations against the white man. Who do they vote for Democrats so if you are okay with voter fraud ACORN, and voter intimidation Black Panthers, then sir you need help. I am quite sure David Duke is not a republican.
There you go talking about what used to be and not what is today.
Ku Klux Klan - Recent Developments
New Klan groups emerging
A sign of the Klan resurgence is the appearance of new Klan groups in different parts of the country. A certain number of new Ku Klux Klan organizations always emerge in any given period of time, as groups split apart or reform. However, what was different in 2005-2006 was the rapid expansion in size of some of these newer Klan factions.
One of the best examples of this phenomenon involves the Empire Knights of the Ku Klux Klan. The Empire Knights is a newer Klan group, formed in 2005 in part from former members of the Southern White Knights of the Ku Klux Klan. From Florida, it expanded across the South, into the Mid-Atlantic, and even as far as Oregon. In January 2007, it boasted chapters in 18 states.
Texas has been a strong scene of Empire Knights activity. In early August 2006, members of the Empire Knights of Texas, based in San Angelo, held a heavily publicized anti-immigration rally in the northwest Texas city of Amarillo. It was only one of several recent Empire Knights events in Texas. In June 2006, over 20 Empire Knights held an anti-immigration rally in the west Texas city of Midland, while in November 2005, they held a protest against gay marriage in Austin. The Empire Knights also held an event in July 2006 in Leesville, South Carolina.
David Ernest Duke (born July 1, 1950) is an American white nationalist, far-right activist and writer, and former Republican Louisiana State Representative. He was also a former candidate in the Republican presidential primaries in 1992, and in the Democratic presidential primaries in 1988. Duke has unsuccessfully run for the Louisiana State Senate, U.S. Senate, U.S. House of Representatives, and Governor of Louisiana.
A former Grand Wizard of the Knights of the Ku Klux Klan,[3][4] Duke describes himself as a racial realist, asserting that "all people have a basic human right to preserve their own heritage."[5] He is a strong advocate of opposition to Zionism and the opposition to the Jewish people, as well as what he asserts to be both groups' control of the Federal Reserve, the federal government and the media. Duke supports anti-immigration, both legal and illegal, preservation of what he labels Western culture and traditionalist Christian "family values", strict Constitutionalism, abolition of the Internal Revenue Service, voluntary racial segregation, ardent anti-communism and white separatism.[6][7
If you think today's KKK is in any way equivalent to the REAL KKK, you are as deluded as your posts suggest. You do understand the difference between 5 million KKK members that were protected at all levels of government by democrats and a 5000 bored racists with delusions of grandeur and not enough imagination to create their own racist organization? I do not think you do.
You are in way over your head, get out before you drown in ignorance. I am through reading your BS.
If you need anymore proof look it up yourself. Now you say the KKK is not the real KKK? LOL
Facts I want facts. Tell me your sources. When did it happen? What are the facts?
Not to mention Mel that the KKK is completely marginalized and Fringe. In your post about David Duke you state:
Duke has unsuccessfully run for the Louisiana State Senate, U.S. Senate, U.S. House of Representatives, and Governor of Louisiana.
Even in Louisiana....... He couldn't win! Because no one respects the KKK.
what? no mention of the Dixiecrats? They were the wing of the Democratic Party that BAILED once the Civil Rights Act was passed. And it is correct to mention that the Republican Party welcomed them with OPEN arms.
When using Democrats as the basis for your rhetoric about WHO were the KKK, please follow through with the entire context of the subject.
Otherwise, you just look foolish.
Hi Clara! Glad to see someone else has read a history book. I can always spot a fellow democrat they are usually well read and intelligent.
Generalizations are so convenient, aren't they. They're usually applied to those we wish to dehumanize so we can marginalize them without anyjabs at our conscience. "All Jews are rich, all blacks eat watermelon, all Puerto Ricans steal hubcaps, all white men are pederasts". Congratulations on continuing to support action sthat have been the basis for racism, anti-semitism, and intolerant behavior everywhere.
The one problem I have mel is that in your copy and paste, I don't believe I read that all KKK members, past or present, were REPUBLICAN.. All you have proved to me is David Ernest Duke was a self-professed Republican and tried to align himself as such...
I would believe your original statement if you could please provide a link that spells out, in black and white, that all members of the KKK, past or present, are self proclaimed REPUBLICANS....
Uh....uh......uh
His favorite answer......."I'm wasn't aware of that, but I will check into it!"
aka.........None of your business!
All the Lib media.......still kissing b*tt!
I liked him. He dealt well with the press and had a sense of humor. He wasn't stiff and boring, that's for sure. Best of luck to him in the re-election campaign.
THANK GOD he is gone! Maybe they can find someone to replace him that can actually carry on a conversation and answer a question without saying "umm" fifty times in a sentence!
Gibb is as 'arrogant' as the rest of the obama administration. I wish all the libs take their 'attitudes' and vacate.
You forgot condescending, I have never seen such disrespect and lack of class from a person in that position.
When compared to to Tony Snow and Dee Dee Myers, he is an amature and not a good one at that.
How great would it be if Rachel Maddow was appointed Press Secretary? She would be direct and to the point in dealing with the press. That woman is very sharp and exudes integrity. Hey, Tony Snow left FOX News to be Bush's press secretary. It could happen.
She is too smart she would never take the job and quit the great gig she has right now.
Nah, Rachel Maddow can't be Pres Sec. Now that DADT passed, I expect she'll be enlisting.
Rachel Maddow is a Goddess! She is so intelligent; has a wicked sense of humor and is articulate beyond imagination. We love Rachel!!
Rachel Maddow??? You can not be serious... the biggest problem with Ms Maddow IS Ms Maddow...
Rachel Maddow...lol.....now that is funny.
Madcow and Olberman don't have a brain between them, only the mindless minions lost in the "hope" would consider them! I think Leno should do it, the administration is a joke after all, it should be a comedian.
Rush, Beck or Hannity would probably be your choice, correct? Frankly, I don't think they would be able to get a grip on all the "fake news" that being Press Secretary would entail since, as we all know, the REAL, HONEST TO GOOD NEWS TRUTH is the only thing they've handled so far.
I think they are all greedy scumbags. "Fake news" and "Faux News" have been overused, that's just my opinion.
It is amazing how the liberals let little old Fox News - 1 cable channel - live rent free in their minds all the time. I don't watch and could care less who CNN, MSNBC, ABC, NPR, NBC, CBS talk about, endorse or have or are their shows. Not enough people watch them to make a difference. Remember - Fox News lives Rent Free in the Presidents and the liberals mind. ha ha ha.
Oh, we're keeping track of the rent. The propagandists at FAUX "NEWS" will get hit with the bill eventually.
It's about time a few of these clowns are starting to step out of the spotlight. Rahm, David, Robert, good jobs for doing this country a favor.
What took so long!!!!! Anyone see his farewell speech notes on his hand?
Another confused Becker-head...
It's Bible Spice who finds it necessary to scribble notes on her hand even when using the dreaded 'teleprompter'!
Feisty---OMG "Bible Spice" LMFAO!!!!
Can I keep this one??? Pluuuueeeeze!!! It is great!
As for all of the Right wingers here saying stupid @!$%# about Gibbs being a terrible press secretary -- UUUH--where were you when Tony Snow left that position in the hands of -- um---oh--damn--she was so inept I cant even remember her name!!!! Now there was an intellect for FOX. Oh yeah -- that is where she ended up -- GO FIGURE.
As for the right wingers telling us the race card is being "overplayed" --- when the sore losers from the 2008 elections no longer feel threatened by a BLACK man as president -- then there will no longer be a race card to use. Until then -- everyone who has an intelligent thought can read between the lines of the powerhouses of the GOP and KNOW it is behind EVERYTHING they are doing and have done.
Help yourself! ;o)
BTW Great post! For the life of me I can't understand why when you mention race the right wingers hair sets of fire!
Must really frighten them but what else is new? They're scared of everything! lol
And the queen bee bigoted liberal Redhead shows her beak....big surprise. Nice post, are you all going to click the heels of your jackboots now?
ScoMata- OMG, that is so funny, can I keep that puleeeze! Great post!
Nice one Crystal. LOL.
Joy Behar for press secretary. If she is not avalible give to Oprah. Then Rosie if they don't want it. Larry King is free now also.
Good luck Robert, you done a good job in very tough times. For a new guy its going to be easier now, we are in better position now as a country! Plus the new guy can respond pulling Republicans to the table, cant wait when somebody will start asking them questions.
Good job Robert. You are the most pathetic, poor, and gaff prone press secretary we have ever had. If I got one dollar for every time you said uhh, I would be a millionaire. You had more in one week than any other press secretary had in a year. This guy rarely had a clue on what was going on. If he attempted to answer a question, he was wrong a high percentage of time.
You "done" a good job..."
I can see why you liked him.
I'm confused what did he do a great job at?
I think it's hard to be evasive for even a couple minutes. How did he do it for a couple years?
Sorry but Gibbs sucked as House Speaker. Surprise, Mixed Quarter Bag! I'm an independent after all.
You know, they have all of the little smiley faces and etc. that you can make with certain key strokes. It's too bad there is no series of characters to make the image of 'flipping the bird' so I could flip off MQB.
:-)
This arrogant a**hole can't get out of there fast enough. Good riddance.
Gibbs was an arrogant moron who had difficulty formulating well thought out responses. You have to have someone who can think quickly on their feet for that job and he definitely was not a quick thinker. uh, uh.
What was the rush? It was his time to waste all he wanted. The press corp can get up and leave if they don't think that he is answering their questions adequately. What you faill to understand is he was formulating six answers at a time and judging between them on the fly while responding.
Uh....um...bye-bye. Don't let the door um, ya' know, hit ya' in the uh as$.
Best laugh I've had all morning!