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Subscribe to RSSJust in time for the holidays, there's another expletive-driven episode making the rounds on the blogosphere after an unnamed Democratic congressman expressed his distaste at the tax cut deal President Obama forged with Republicans.
At the conservative NRO, Jim Geraghty's take:
Yelling “you lie” earned [Rep. Joe] Wilson a deserved rebuke; we’ll see if dropping the F-bomb in reference to the president in a meeting of several hundred people earns any serious consequence for this unnamed lawmaker. My fear is no. Sure, it was a semi-private meeting, and I’m sure this isn’t the first F-bomb to be dropped on Capitol Hill — I’m sure we all remember the much-discussed exchange between former vice president Dick Cheney and Sen. Patrick Leahy. But this feels different, like another line has been crossed in standards of public behavior. Wasn’t any Democrat in that room offended by those words? Didn’t anybody object?
Once you start marinating in this nastiness, it starts to seep into how you think and speak, and perhaps you can’t turn it off. It is now defining the Left. Michael Moore. Bill Maher. Joy Behar. It didn’t just stay in the grassroots and celebrities; it came to the halls of Congress with Alan Grayson.
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And now, finally, it comes full circle. Now they’re sneering at Obama. Their guy. The guy whom they adored, perhaps as much as any party has ever adored its leader, in 2007 and 2008. Now they say, “[F-word] him.”Hey, pal, that’s the President of the United States. Show some respect.
(How did it come to the point where we have to be the ones to demand that?)
NRO's Jonah Goldberg compared the outburst to the "You Lie," episode, noting that some suggested Wilson's exclamation was racially motivated.
When Rep. Joe Wilson yelled “you lie!” — which he most certainly should not have done, everyone was convinced that racism was the only explanation. But when a Democrat shouts, admittedly in a different forum, F*** the president, no such speculation arises. That’s fine, I’m fairly sure that racism isn’t the culprit here. But I’m also sure that if this was a story about a Republican, Maureen Dowd and Frank Rich would bang out several columns insisting that racism told the whole story and Keith Olbermann would be busting out his Field Guide to North American Klansmen. Of course, Olbie’s now so mad at the president, he must be wondering if he’s a racist.
Conservative RedState blogger Erick Erickson tweeted, "I bet the Dem who said 'F--- the President' today supported censure of Joe Wilson for saying 'you lie.'"
In a later blog post, Erickson set the scene, demonstrating that despite Demcorats' unhappiness with the compromise, "the deal must now die."
In a rowdy meeting in which one Democratic Congressman said loudly 'F— the President,' the House Democrats turned Nancy Reagan and just said no.
On the left, Balloon Juice's John Cole simply called his post "Demoralized."
I don’t think I’ve ever been as demoralized, cynical, and disgusted with politics as I am right now. The whole thing just makes me sick to my stomach. I really can not believe that we have a major party that is behaving the way the Republicans are, and even worse, I can’t believe they are being rewarded for this behavior. They were rewarded at the polls, the Democrats are in disarray, and the country is sort of just stalled. Nothing meaningful can be accomplished, and the Republicans and the media don’t care.
I’ve scanned the news for something interesting and uplifting to write about, and every headline I see just depresses me and makes me want to go back to bed or smash my computer and tv. And the worst thing is I don’t see anything changing. This is a structural problem, with the rich, the corporate masters, the media, and the money party pulling the strings. I’m not the sharpest tack, but I try to at least pay attention, and I find it hard to attain the information I need to make a good decision. I’m waffling back and forth on the tax deal because there really is nowhere to get a critical, unvarnished look at things. If I’m having this much trouble, how are other people who aren’t obsessed with things working these issues out.
And that is when I get more depressed. They probably aren’t. They’re just voting for their team. Sarah Palin shoots animals and hates the lieberals! One of us!
F--k it.
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" - - - -" 'em if they can't take a joke(er).
Or something like that. But really- the level of disrespect and decorum in this society are rapidly moving in opposite directions. On another post, I was talking about not being able to say anything slightly vulgar on the radio. This was in the 70's. It really WAS like WKRP, where you couldn't say 'booger' on the air without getting in trouble.
Now, it's ok to say 'pi**ed off' and make not-so-veiled references to male and female genetalia, or not being able to 'get it up' or worse.
Hell, I remember being in Minneapolis in the winter of 1970, and one of the TV stations up there being a test market for the first commercials for a feminine hygiene product we are all familliar with. There were no spoken words other than 'here's news that's too good to keep under wrap" as a hand slowly tore wrapping paper off a box of Kotex brand napkins. It cause quite a stir.
Now, in addition to all those products being shoved in our faces during prime-time, we get to watch as that 'magic moment' comes about by an "accidental touch", and it's off to the beach-bound, claw-footed bath tubs!
But just think what it will be like in another 20 years!
And let us not forget that FR frequently calls President Clinton "Bubba". Come on FR. Own up to it, apologize, and for gods sake, stop using nicknames of our Presidents.
No kidding Buzz...
Forty years ago you couldn't say tampon' and somehow we've evolved to where this kind of speech is not only acceptable... it's encouraged ALL in the name of ratings!
It's disturbing & disgusting! PERIOD!
Ron: What p!sses me off is how many of the chattering class at NBC/MSNBC refer to Obama as Mr. Obama instead of President Obama. Of course when you listen to the slant & spin they toss in it's easy to understand their hidden agenda!
drive-by-observer
Or something like that. But really- the level of disrespect and decorum in this society are rapidly moving in opposite directions. On another post, I was talking about not being able to say anything slightly vulgar on the radio. This was in the 70's. It really WAS like WKRP, where you couldn't say 'booger' on the air without getting in trouble
But just think what it will be like in another 20 years!
My better half and I had that discussion last night. I came to 3 conclusions
1) it has gone beyond race
2) it's all about greed
3) They want a dumbed down electorate to exploit
PS: Sarah Palin to Annoy People Overseas Now
The Daily Beast reports that Palin is launching her first "real foreign trip" to America's top two foreign allies, Israel and England.
Israel makes sense, since the Netanyahu government doesn't appreciate any of the gentle rebukes or modest requests that Barack Obama makes of them from time to time and would gladly help the much more accommodating snowbilly grifter defeat him in 2012.
http://gawker.com/5710623/sarah-palin-to-annoy-people-overseas-now
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Can I say media wh--re now?
What kind of trip? A "real" trip? She's a "real trip", alright.
Just what the country needs. A NON public office holder going to foreign lands and running their mouths about that which they know absolutely nothing. What's she going to do, whack 'em with a fish-bat? Sign her autograph on her OWN hand?? What???
Drive by_— Gosh, it sounds like Jimmy Carter and his overseas trips! Remember peanut head?
Fed up Senior
Drive by_— Gosh, it sounds like Jimmy Carter and his overseas trips! Remember peanut head?
Hey Fed up Senior,
Know your History. Jimmy Carter brokered an historic peace agreement between Egypt and Israel which is still lasting today. Remember the Camp David Accords and the Sinai Peninsula in the Nile Valley which Israel gave back?
Palin? Beck?
I see no mention of them in the article. This story is about how one of your own party said, in reference to Obama, the presidential candidate all of you voted for and support, "F*ck the President."
Wow. You even ignore someone cursing Obama if he's a Dem and use it as a opportunity to trash two people that aren't even mentioned here.
Bizarre.
slimsignet,
hypocrisy................If that had have been a republican, they would be calling for his head.
Honestly, I do NOT know how these libs sleep at night.
Fed up Senior
"Drive by_— Gosh, it sounds like Jimmy Carter and his overseas trips! Remember peanut head?"
"Peanut Head"? Is that like "Poopie Head"?
We really need to get you on here more often for intelligent conversation, old fella.
We're hearing on the radio today tons of complaints about the Democratic Party and how they have continually boxed President Obama in. Over and over I keep hearing -
You cannot trust the Democratic Party.
And this is being said by Democrats. One host said that the reason President Obama picked Tim Geithner was because he knew he would have to compromise with the Republicans and needed someone who could help him.
Lots of credit went to Nancy Pelosi but none to the Senate.
Evidently President Obama always knew it would be a difficult road to travel with a handful of Democrats, which resulted in watered down legislation.
He lost Ted K and Robert Byrd. Lieberman was no D. He gets Scott Brown and Manchin, who won't support DADT evidently.
Some Republicans I speak with are echoing the same sentiments. That as long as President Obama has to compromise, the left are going to scream bloody murder. Regardless of what the final piece of legislation looks like. Despite how much he will have to compromise in order to get things passed.
Senator Bernie Sanders. I hope he has some back up from his fellow Senators. But I doubt it.
The House continually gave President Obama what he wanted. The Senate?
Nope.
And look at how he is being treated by his own party. His so-called supporters.
Shameful.
He really is the only grown up in the room.
Pat:
Ted Kennedy would be a force right about now but our President is also a force in his own right.
As a way of reinforcing why I am not surprised by the President's actions I went back and re-read the then Senator Obama's Democratic Convention Speech from 2004 in Boston. To wit:
"There's not a black America and white America and Latino America and Asian America; there's the United States of America.
The pundits, the pundits like to slice and dice our country into red states and blue States: red states for Republicans, blue States for Democrats. But I've got news for them, too. We worship an awesome God in the blue states, and we don't like federal agents poking around our libraries in the red states.
"We coach little league in the blue states and, yes, we've got some gay friends in the red states."
This is the same guy who is now the President of the United States of America. It has never been about him being an ideologue so entrenched in the "party" that he can't see the wisdom of compromise. He did not get this far in life without being very smart so I think he knows what he is doing and if some in the Democratic party don't like it ...
Controversial issues try the balance between our reason and emotion. When emotion drives the debate only the most naieve among us would actually believe that the dialog behind closed doors would be politically correct and not become cantankerous and simply profane. Verbally insulting this President or any President of the United States in an open forum as Rep. Wilson did is completely inconsistent with ethical behavior and appropriate interaction among our political leaders.
"A pattern has begun to emerge: the OFA list (which was never shared with any of our imperiled Congressional candidates last cycle) is being used to rally support for the President's conservative decisions.
That's not what I signed up for."
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2010/12/7/926778/-Its-time-to-unsubscribe:Im-a-Fed-Up-Progressive.
The President may soon be the only one in the room...and the F U's seem to be going in both directions...
Aaah... ALAN GRAYSON.. The bofoon from the left that was continaully hailed by The Ed Show on MSNBC as a Champion of the Left and was thrown out of his office by the FLorida electorate who finally woke up to what this idiot was... a moron who keeps injecting himself into the debate as a voice of Liberals who "care". He is a joke who should go back home and drool in front of the pigeons in the park the rest of his life for all that he has blathered while in his Congressional office! MSNBC ....If you have any credibility... you can leave his picture off any of your Web postings!
Is he the one who used the word "Taliban" in his campaign? I have forgotten the circumstances, but I have read that this was when he lost the race. He got that word from the left, which means the left ironically cost him his election.
Does he know that?
It's one thing to be a blogger. It's quite another to be a Congressman behaving like a blogger.
Bev in Chicago. They already have a "dumbed down electorate". Just read the lib posts here and you'll arrive at the same conclusion.