Bloomberg sounding a lot like Obama?


New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg today gave a major speech that's drawing plenty of political attention about Bloomberg's 2012 prospects, even though he's said he won't run.

The crux of Bloomberg's speech was about curbing partisanship in politics, acknowlegding that pragmatic solutions don't exist solely on the left or the right, and promoting economic innovation.

Even though parts of the speech criticized President Obama and Democrats -- as well as Republicans -- much of it sounded a lot like Obama's famous speeches.

This means one of two things if -- and it's a big if -- Bloomberg makes a third-party bid in 2012: He either runs on the same ground covered by Obama, or he tries to make the case that the president wasn't able to live up to his promises, but that he can deliver them.

Here's Bloomberg today:

Despite what ideologues on the left believe, government cannot tax and spend its way back to prosperity, especially when that spending is driven by pork barrel politics... At the same time, despite what ideologues on the right believe, government should not stand aside and wait for the business cycle to run its natural course.

Obama's inaugural address:

The question we ask today is not whether our government is too big or too small, but whether it works -- whether it helps families find jobs at a decent wage, care they can afford, a retirement that is dignified. Where the answer is yes, we intend to move forward. Where the answer is no, programs will end... Nor is the question before us whether the market is a force for good or ill. Its power to generate wealth and expand freedom is unmatched. But this crisis has reminded us that without a watchful eye, the market can spin out of control.

Bloomberg today:

Both parties follow the mood of the moment – instead of leading from the front. They incite anger instead of addressing it – for their own partisan interests. They tell the world about every real or imagined problem in America – and not what is right with America. Especially in these tough times, we need our leaders to inspire the whole country – not criticize half of it... This can’t go on. We’ve got to pull together, and focus on what’s important for America – and then roll up our sleeves and fix the things that need fixing.

Obama announcing his presidential bid in 2009:

What's stopped us from meeting these challenges is not the absence of sound policies and sensible plans. What's stopped us is the failure of leadership, the smallness of our politics - the ease with which we're distracted by the petty and trivial, our chronic avoidance of tough decisions, our preference for scoring cheap political points instead of rolling up our sleeves and building a working consensus to tackle big problems.

Bloomberg today:

Throughout American history, innovations combined with government investment have created fundamental and lasting structural changes to the economy that spurred new private sector investment, new jobs, and new prosperity for the country. For instance, after the financial panic of 1819, it was New York Gov. DeWitt Clinton who built the Erie Canal – ushering in a new era of westward development and growth. In the 1860s, with the Civil War tearing the country in two, Lincoln’s transcontinental railroad set the stage for America to fulfill its manifest destiny, by opening new markets and allowing private sector innovations – in industries like steel and oil – to drive a new era of national growth.

Obama's inaugural:

The state of our economy calls for action, bold and swift. And we will act, not only to create new jobs, but to lay a new foundation for growth. We will build the roads and bridges, the electric grids and digital lines that feed our commerce and bind us together. We'll restore science to its rightful place, and wield technology's wonders to raise health care's quality and lower its cost. We will harness the sun and the winds and the soil to fuel our cars and run our factories. And we will transform our schools and colleges and universities to meet the demands of a new age.

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It's ironic

    Reply#1 - Wed Dec 8, 2010 5:36 PM EST

    It's ironic that with the number of politicians out there who despise this President... they have no qualms about helping themselves to his work...

    Remember this?

    http://crooksandliars.com/david-neiwert/palin-touch-endorsee-vaughn-ward-ida

    In the spirit of the holiday, who can forget Cind McCain plagiarizing someone else's cookie recipe... lol

    http://www.sogoodblog.com/2008/06/16/cindy-mccain-caught-plagiarizing-recipes-again/

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    #1.1 - Wed Dec 8, 2010 5:47 PM EST

    cindy mccain plagerizing recipes..?? you must be the dough queen... i'm sure your "gubbermint cheese " is already spoiling in the fridge that you used your food stamps to purchase.

      #1.2 - Wed Dec 8, 2010 6:36 PM EST

      Do you want take this one DBO or should I?

      I wasn't aware you could purchase fridges with food stamps!

      Thanks for the tip! ;0)

        #1.3 - Wed Dec 8, 2010 7:15 PM EST

        the pelosi,

        “cindy mccain plagerizing recipes..??”

        Read and weep !!!

        http://www.sogoodblog.com/2008/06/16/cindy-mccain-caught-plagiarizing-recipes-again/

          #1.4 - Wed Dec 8, 2010 7:25 PM EST
          sghejtykykDeleted

          Yes you can buy a fridge with food stamps,you dont really think they buy food do you,they trade thier gov. money for less cash you know people who actually work for a liveing just give them cash and take thier card to the store and get food tax free while the person that tax payers give the food stamps to ,they go buy crack.or a fridge.

            #1.6 - Thu Dec 9, 2010 7:40 AM EST

            This guy would be worse than what we have now. He is so far to the left it's unbelievable. He would disarm the whole law abiding citizenship of this country. A complete idiot.

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            #1.7 - Thu Dec 9, 2010 7:40 AM EST

            You got that right Skid,

            "Where there is no deterant, evil runs unchecked" and thats exactly what you'd have when law-abiding citizens are deprived of the right to bear arms.

            Japanese military leaders said it when asked why they didn't invade main-land USA, "your people are armed", hell they didn't even try to take Hawaii. I suspect that may be one of the things that helps in some small way to keeps the mexican cartels from running more across our border more than they do.

            I haven't even been to the range in nearly 2 years, so I'm hardly what you would call a "gun-freak", never the less, I'm armed to the teeth baby.

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            #1.8 - Thu Dec 9, 2010 8:32 AM EST

            You mean armed to the gums, don't you? Your type don't have teeth.

              #1.9 - Thu Dec 9, 2010 11:02 AM EST

              I really don't get the whole guns issue. Obama has allowed people to carry guns into national parks, and that's the only gun legislation I'm aware of that he has passed. He's actually made it easier to carry guns. So where does all this crap come from that he's anti-gun? Anyone have a source? Or is it just the constant yammering from the right that Democrats must inherently want gun control?

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              #1.10 - Thu Dec 9, 2010 12:13 PM EST

              Actually, the National Park thing was an earmark attached to another bill. I'm not sure, but it may have been the porkulus bill. Janstince, google Obama nad gun control, you will find all the info you need on his being anti 2nd amendment.

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              #1.11 - Thu Dec 9, 2010 1:10 PM EST

              Okay, so in Illinois he voted against use of illegal handguns for home invasion defense. He has also expressed in the past that handguns should be regulated and kept out of the hands of criminals and the mentally ill.

              What legislation has he drafted for this? Where has he told Congress to do so? Personally, while I may not agree about the first one, I could see it in the context of the second. After all, we take away the rights of felons and the mentally ill who cannot care for themselves already: felons don't get to vote, mentally ill can have their self-determination revoked. Why would removing guns from them be a bad idea? And don't come up with some slippery-slope argument, I'm too tired to get more angry today.

                #1.12 - Thu Dec 9, 2010 5:02 PM EST
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                Geez, Feisty- you still standing? Instead of colapsing everything you say, they tried to beat the hell out of you on another thread.

                You know you must be doing something right to garner that kind of response. (ooops- there I go, patting you on the back again. What's Hottie Smiff gonna say??)

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                Reply#2 - Wed Dec 8, 2010 5:39 PM EST

                You betcha DBO! They can't handle the truth - it might just set them free one day! ;0)

                Apologies for above - don't know what happened but the whole post got lost! ;0(

                  #2.1 - Wed Dec 8, 2010 5:48 PM EST
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                  LOL! It's like he got one of Obama's hand-me-down teleprompters!

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                  Reply#3 - Wed Dec 8, 2010 5:45 PM EST

                  X

                    Reply#4 - Wed Dec 8, 2010 5:46 PM EST

                    Bloomberg is a shining example of his clueless electorate.

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                    Reply#5 - Wed Dec 8, 2010 5:51 PM EST

                    This guy is a waste of time. What does he want to do turn America , like New York? Into a HEPO.

                    (Handout, Entitlement and Pay Out) All he wants is make his name prestigious with the prefix, Presidential Candidate for the rest of his life, to show off to his friends.

                    Oh, here comes Presidential candidate Bloomberg. He's full of it.

                      #5.1 - Thu Dec 9, 2010 10:09 AM EST
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                      Love your posts, Fiesty-we're on the same page. 

                        Reply#6 - Wed Dec 8, 2010 6:13 PM EST

                        Thanks for the kind words Joe! :0)

                          #6.1 - Wed Dec 8, 2010 7:16 PM EST
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                          Obama , Chaves.. whats the difference.

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                          Reply#7 - Wed Dec 8, 2010 6:27 PM EST

                          Chavez is just a little further along in his dictarorial quest...and he's all chummy with the Russians

                            #7.1 - Thu Dec 9, 2010 8:38 AM EST
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                            They both, meaning Obama and Bloomberg must go since they will be primarily responsible for backing the A.C.L.U on allowing muslims to overtake America, I am very serious we as Americans need to wake up.

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                            Reply#8 - Wed Dec 8, 2010 6:39 PM EST

                            The ACLU is "allowing Muslims to overtake America" and you are "very serious" that "we as Americans need to wake up"? Put your opinions aside and tell us in what way is the ACLU, Obama and Bloomberg backing the overthrow of our secular nation by muslims? Where do you get this from? Do you have any facts to substantiate your claim? Do you see by the state of affairs in Washington an ever-increasing threat of muslims trying to take over? Do you see any propaganda online or on television or in magazines or newspapers that is quietly or loudly pushing the US towards its overthrow by Muslims? Has your local community been taken over by Muslims? Has your church or political organization or your local school board been overtaken by muslims? What exactly would an overthrow of the US by Muslims look like, anyway? It may seem seem like I'm using sarcasm in my response to your post; if it seems that way, it most likely has something to do with how outrageous your post is. Please please please, back up your claim with facts, episodes, events, pics, vids, any kind of empirical evidence will do. Please tell us all, in what way is the ACLU and Bloomberg and Obama supporting the overthrow of the USA by Muslims?

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                            #8.1 - Wed Dec 8, 2010 8:58 PM EST

                            Roscoe,

                            You are very mean to try and make him answer questions. He heard it somewhere isn't that good enough. :)

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                            #8.2 - Wed Dec 8, 2010 9:47 PM EST

                            Yeah, that's whats scary. You're actualy serious.

                              #8.3 - Thu Dec 9, 2010 10:19 AM EST
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                              happyliveDeleted

                              Life is so much easier when you are a billionaire.

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                              Reply#10 - Wed Dec 8, 2010 7:14 PM EST

                                Reply#11 - Wed Dec 8, 2010 7:17 PM EST

                                  Reply#12 - Wed Dec 8, 2010 7:20 PM EST

                                  Hopefully MR Bloomberg will run as an independent, that would be 4 parties, the current DUMB SISSY DEMS, the warmongering RACIST GOP, the tea party, and a new independent party. Here is one LIFELONG dem that has given up on a once powerful, and trustworthy party that has become just another group of thieves who only care about their own personal gains and their job protection. Mr Bloomberg would not be in it for the money and his ideas will be no more goofier than the current and past groups that have screwed up this country. What the H-ll something different might be better ,we won't know until we try. How much worse could it get . we less fortunate have nothing to lose. GO BLOOMBERG[INDEPENDENT]

                                    Reply#13 - Wed Dec 8, 2010 8:14 PM EST

                                    Yeah Ed... I'm right on board with that *insert snark*

                                    Let the gazillionaire run - you know the guy that it cost him approx $80.00 per vote to become Mayor of NYC!

                                    After all... he's just like YOU!

                                      #13.1 - Wed Dec 8, 2010 8:21 PM EST
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                                      happyliveDeleted

                                      If Bloomberg runs, he will pull NY and a lot of the NE. Obama might as well stay home. He can't win if Bloomberg runs. Bloomberg will pull the Democratic Jewish Vote. Obama has proven to be no friend of Israel or the Jews.

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                                      Reply#15 - Wed Dec 8, 2010 10:21 PM EST

                                      Oh, I'm sure Mr. Bloomberg wants to spend $500 million on a campaign to win New York and New Jersey. I think he is smarter than that. Bloomberg won't run. But you wish he would, because slim pickings amongst the GOP possibilities have got to make you worry. Palin might carry six or seven states. Romney might come up with yet another set of political views that might win him ten to twelve states. The N.J. gov better start losing that 100 pounds now (and figure out how to make the Southern rednecks like him). Pawlenty is bland and overrated. And everybody else is a complete right-wing cook. You forced out the governor of Florida from your party. That was a big mistake. Just like Rand Paul will prove to be a big mistake.

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                                      Reply#16 - Wed Dec 8, 2010 10:44 PM EST

                                      BeyondDEMOCRAT, Got it all figured out, don't you? Obama is one and done no matter who runs. He pissed his base off by supporting the Tax cuts. The Tax Cuts will imporove the economy which will show that Obama and the Democrats were wrong about its effect. That will doom most of their chances and Obama's in particular in 2012. He has been preaching against tax cuts for the rich for the last 5 years. People who earn money tend to make economic decisions with it. People that take money from those that have earned it, tend to make political decisions with it. The economic decisions will work better. It's been proven time, and time again. The next time raising taxes during and economic downturn stimulates the economy will be the first time. Obama's done.

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                                      #16.1 - Wed Dec 8, 2010 11:03 PM EST

                                      The definition of naivete is to right off this president. Read some history.

                                        #16.2 - Thu Dec 9, 2010 10:21 AM EST

                                        Got it all figured out, don't you, Ron? Yeah, right.

                                          #16.3 - Thu Dec 9, 2010 2:52 PM EST
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                                          MY Response to Mr, Kandowski is that as long as you continue to live the leave it to Beaver lifestyle with the white picket fence, and as long as groceries are on the table, and as long as your paycheck is signed and little johnny has a shopping mall to go too, then I guess you have little to nothing to worry about when it comes to muslims taking over America, but then again neither did the people of Nazi Germany till it was to late, fortunately there were enough countries left to take out Hitler, who will be there for us, I could politely respond to you and let you know exactly where I get my info but I am afraid that would not be politically correct.

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                                          Reply#17 - Wed Dec 8, 2010 10:51 PM EST

                                          DJ564,

                                          Please don't worry about letting me in on where you get your information. Personally, I come to msnbc for the sake of seeing what's going on with a mainstream news outlet. I also look elsewhere for my news. Furthermore, you can get a lot of informative stuff from inspecting what our legislative branch is voting on and how each representative votes (we all can go directly to the source). You and I have come to wildly different conclusions with regard to the threats this country faces. Where you see Muslim Takeover, I see court decisions and tax policies that have emptied the coffers of the working and middle classes, funneling lower to middle income people's hard earned cash directly into the pockets of the business elite, the PLUTOCRATS, who come in all shapes and colors and represent most Abrahamic religions, meaning Christianity, Islam, and Judaism, and then others as well. My beef is with the rich who are directly involved in lining their pockets at the expense of the very American prosperity that their rhetoric would have you believe they care about. If you are worried about discussing your information sources on a thread like this, please write me an email at roscoekandowskijr@gmail.com. Again, you and i have reached vastly different conclusions on the affairs that effect us both. Perhaps you and I can talk and see a little more clearly where we're each coming from.

                                            #17.1 - Thu Dec 9, 2010 5:19 PM EST

                                            Do not get me wrong, I do agree with you and you would be surprised as to just how much. I am just worried that our freedoms we as Americans have in this country will be seen as avenues of terror since I am sure the terroists would like to take advantage of the fact that since we live in such a free nation they will take advantage of the fact that we have agencies here that may or may not protect them regardless of their intent.

                                              #17.2 - Fri Dec 10, 2010 7:20 PM EST
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                                              Tell Louis XVI and the First and Second Estates their days of special privileges are over. It is time for the bourgoeise and the rest of the third estate to rise and demand Liberty, Equality, and Fraternity. Tell President Obama and his three stooges (boener, mcconell, kantor) To shove their deficit adding give away to the rich up their big fat compromise!!!!!!!!!!!!!! RISE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

                                                Reply#18 - Wed Dec 8, 2010 10:58 PM EST

                                                Ron:

                                                Mr. Obama's base will take one look at the new fascist the Repubs run in '12 and come to the polls in droves. You conservatives on this blog don't realize how extreme you are. You care about nothing but money. You all need a soul donor. The average voter who takes a long look at all of your "economic incentives" will figure out that you just want to find slave labor wherever it is. If you can make domestic slaves, you are happy. If you have to take your tax cuts and seek foreign slaves, you are sanguine. You can't fool all of the people all of the time. I believe Obama, who was not really that experienced, is a very quick learner and very talented. As a lawyer myself, let me tell you, they don't make dummies editor of the Harvard Law Review. You couldn't hold a conversation with him.

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                                                Reply#19 - Wed Dec 8, 2010 11:15 PM EST

                                                Don't worry Ron, we don't want a rerun of the Sixties. Sure , We can't hold a conversation with him. You're so right. When he goes ,' Uh, huh, aaah , ' Then, he lies like all Dumocrats.

                                                  #19.1 - Thu Dec 9, 2010 11:39 AM EST
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                                                  htydytjuyDeleted

                                                  I see marketing never ends. They really should try a typeset compatible dye on toilet paper so that no moment goes unmarketed.

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                                                  Reply#21 - Wed Dec 8, 2010 11:46 PM EST

                                                  Good for him.

                                                  I'm sick of power blocs on the right and left doing more blocking than anything constructive.

                                                    Reply#22 - Thu Dec 9, 2010 2:59 AM EST

                                                    hugh...my boy the answer is on the RIGHT because we are RIGHT to our principle of smaller government and more individual freedom of Enterprise

                                                      #22.1 - Thu Dec 9, 2010 8:05 AM EST
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                                                      I read these posts all the time and you are all so funny and really know how to solve all of the problems of the United States I wonder why you don't do it and stop with the left right up down we are all Americans no matter what and we are all entitled to our opinions without being called names and told to leave America if we don't agree with someone elses opinion stop it.

                                                        Reply#23 - Thu Dec 9, 2010 7:00 AM EST

                                                        Bloomberg's anti position on guns will kill his chances in 2012....he's too far out of the main stream when it comes to our 2nd Amendment RIGHTS. NYC and the northeast is hardly a microcosm of the country thank GOD

                                                          Reply#24 - Thu Dec 9, 2010 8:03 AM EST

                                                          Yeah but the Northeast has a very large population that pushes the Midwest and South around. Well a lot of corporate heads believe they want to run America directly and bypass politicians.

                                                          The corporate gloves are coming off and you'll see corporations start to take over more and more.

                                                            Reply#25 - Thu Dec 9, 2010 8:26 AM EST

                                                            The northeast population is and has been declining because of their extreme liberalism of high taxes and too much regulation....you're living in the past

                                                              #25.1 - Fri Dec 10, 2010 8:21 AM EST
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                                                              ln58Deleted

                                                              bloomberg's speech is all about the gop and their billionaire friends, the party of no solutions except aid to the wealthiest.

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                                                              Reply#27 - Thu Dec 9, 2010 8:59 AM EST

                                                              As long as the GOP convinces people that taxes are bad, we will continue to spiral downward.

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                                                              Reply#28 - Thu Dec 9, 2010 9:06 AM EST
                                                              superlogiDeleted

                                                              SIC, Taxes is bad. Especially when it comes from that mixed bag of nuts , we call the Democrats.

                                                                #28.2 - Thu Dec 9, 2010 11:34 AM EST
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                                                                liuyanDeleted
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                                                                liuyanDeleted

                                                                Bloomberger running for President? Don't make die of laughter. I nearly did when Oblaba ran. Not one single Black Dem will vote for Bloomingberg. Dems got to be kidding.

                                                                  Reply#32 - Thu Dec 9, 2010 10:20 AM EST
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