Feisty Redhead Roselle, IL

Money is the mothers milk of politics...

No denying the Righties & Tea Bagger LOVE drinking from the teat!

Oh, I'm just hoping they strangle. The greedy b@$-turds

They have no integrity. Those suckler couldn't care less about issues in the community

Choke!!

What continually amazes me Bev... is how BLATANT & BRAZEN they've become...

They used to have a least a smidgeon of discretion... now they're just rubbing it into our faces...

Have a GREAT Weekend GF! Anita says Hi!

Always got to wonder why Feisty and Bev always are complaining about Other peoples Money. They want the govt to take it away from those that work hard and many Extra hours for. They are jealous and Expect the Govt to provide for them..

These two Educated Idiots are not smart enough to actually use the Education they got to do any good. So they want the Govt to do it for them

But not the unions. They do not "love drinking from the teat" right Red?

Wait wasn't it the Unions that gave the most money last election? American Federation of some union or other was number one, correct. Or is that fact lost on you?

Good thing Obama, Reid and Pelosi's world is totally divorced from money.

Feisty

What continually amazes me Bev... is how BLATANT & BRAZEN they've become...

That's because the milk is toxic. They hire unrepentant bigots and fools like Glenn Beck and slant head Sean Hannity to breast fed the stupid .

Thanks and you have a nice weekend too. Also, I can't until Cheney is picked up by Interpol. I'd love to see him boiling in hot oil.

Tomorrow is my day to volunteer at the food basket.

Every one have a nice weekend. If you should come across a homeless person don't condescend. You don't know their circumstance.

Just be thankful it is not you and your family.

Tell Anita I said hi and to have a nice weekend.

But not the unions. They do not "love drinking from the teat" right Red?

Did I miss something???

I could of sworn the clip was of an RNC Forum...

Hmmmm.... I better go watch it again... Thanks Spanks!

PS: Good to see you Steve - what's the matter did it get too hot for ya in the 'Boiler Room'? Decided to come over here and drop some more little gems?

Steve-505729

Always got to wonder why Feisty and Bev always are complaining about Other peoples Money. They want the govt to take it away from those that work hard and many Extra hours for. They are jealous and Expect the Govt to provide for them..

Steve that was a moronic statement. Those dollars in the USA Treasury belong to US since we all pay taxes in one way or another.

So stick it; baby. If you can find the right part of your anatomy to put in. I hope you stick that information in your brain.

Nay. I am there and have been Responding on that page too. I just figured i would come over and visit you on this page. I Figured i need somemore Abusive Treatment and i saw you and Bev here so i figured i would come over here and be Told just how Stupid i am.. By You Educated idiots...

Bev. Yes. Please. may i have another. So did you feisty get your Welfare check yet. or doesnt it come till the 5th? . yes. We all pay Taxes. Its just that some of us. Mostly on the Right. Pay alot more in Taxes then you ever will..

I Figured i need somemore Abusive Treatment

Oh... now I understand!

Sorry I can't help you out but maybe you could try appealing to Spanky, with a name like Spanky I'm sure they could show you a spanking good time! ;0)

Nah..

I will just stick to the VERBAL abusiveness you dish out.. It gives me so much pleasure know i have pissed you off enough to call me names. . Feisty..

I am still Waiting for you two to answer whether or not you got your Welfare Checks yet..

Feisty: you know what our friend Clara says: SIASD! Later, have a good weekend.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

More Acronyms! I feel so left out.

Stupid Is As Stupid Does: SIASD

Thanks, I feel better now.

WTF Paul are you a code breaker? lol

BTW: Indy - you should know by now.. we're VERY inclusive! ;0)

feisty and the gang, If you take a map of the USA and color those states that are majority democratic voters blue and the others red there is not much information to be gleaned from that. However, if you do the same thing county by county within the states a very telling pattern emerges. The blue counties have very low income per capita when compared to the red counties. Especially within the blue states. Statistically speaking, that would indicate that the majority of democratic voters are low income earners and pay no income tax at all. Yet, 7 of the top 10 wealthiest sitting congressmen are democrats. The demographics and resulting statistical conclusions would indicate that you have been hoodwinked but good. Have a wonderful and more enlightened evening.

All right Paul, how on earth do you do that? You mean we are not the clever, quick thinking people that we think we are?

IndyLib would have figured it out sooner than later. He seems like a good egg.

Yes, he really does. And we are not such an enigma. Have a good weekend!

Steve,

Maybe they haven't reached the 99 week limit yet.

The thing is Bob, if we had any sort of decent news media in this country, entities like WikiLeaks would fade away.

EXACTLY. It is the absence of any real journalism being allowed to take place by the corporate executives at NEWS outlets which creates the whistleblower niche for WikiLeaks.

You think a "real" journalist would idiscriminately release state secrets?

Clark, c'mon man, ease up. Those secrets were not secrets. Just known facts that were not admitted to, that's all.

If the information has already been distributed to our enemies, even if it were a state secret, is there any reason why we the electorate of a free society should then be the last to know?

When I posted the above, I was expecting ..........

Well you never know. Anyway:

if we had any sort of decent news media in this country, entities like WikiLeaks would fade away.

Ahh.. your just fun'n me, ain't ya Indy. I hear this type of stupid crap from the libbies here all the time, but I've kinda had the feeling your smart enough to prefer playing pull my finger than make a stand on something like the above.

Then we get....

EXACTLY. It is the absence of any real journalism being allowed to take place by the corporate executives at NEWS outlets which creates the whistleblower niche for WikiLeaks.

(Well, all righty then.)

Hi Paul,

Help me out here bud. Are you saying real journalism is publishing national security secrets, compromising the war on terrorism and undermining our trust/diplomatic efforts in protecting the American people? Everything should be out there? Everyone in the world needs to know everything?

Maybe it's just me, but that sounds pretty stupid. We are trying to kill al Quaeda guys (the guys that killed almost 3,000 on 9/11) in Yemen, the hotest hot spot, so we just out their President and Deputy Prime Minister for working with our CIA and that's cool? We just punked the Royal King Dudes in Saudia Arabia over Iran and their bomb and that's

uh-oh.

I just said 9/11. And this is Paul. Paul-977599. Paul Reynolds Wrap Hat-977599.

oh bouy.

Sorry Paul. You're right.

Cheney did 9/11 and Obama needs to make Julian Assange Secretary of State.

But wait a minute. This would free up Hillary and she could marry Prince Andrew because, face it, after the way barry has wacked the dems chances - she can sooner be the Queen of England than POTUS and then heart broken Kate leaves the country to kill some birds, meets Cheney and he replaces Kellog with Kate to make it Kate Brown & Root, she falls for Dick, they get married move to Nigeria where Cheney knows the Nigerians would do anything to have Kate as their Queen and sure enough they do become King and Queen and then Kate and Dick swap Nigeria's mineral rights to China for their US IOUs and Dick calls the debt, and owns the USA.

That evil dastardly genius.

I don't what anyone can do to stop Cheney, but have a good weekend Paul.

Bob, you are talking to Paul? Really?

I admit I had a laugh over your post, but, seriously, bob, if you spend too much time talking to crazy people, you put yourself in danger.

You do go on....................

If you want to reduce the argument to absurdity, that is your option. But it only highlights the weakness of you position.

The motivation for the "crime" of leaking "state secrets" is hardly the point. The motivation for the murders at FT. HOOD were well known to the military before it ever took place. It wasn't political correctness which caused the failure to avert the crime, it was simple dereliction of duty.

If this "fag" had worked at the State department instead of the Army, it appears he could have just as easily leaked this information to the entire world, not just to WikiLeaks. Who could have come up with a system of information sharing which could so easily be abused? Find those people. They are supposed to assume that there will be "turncoats" with access to the system. The 'system' is supposed to be on the lookout for people engaging in activities with it which flag them as suspicious.

no joe,

When I was 5, the big kids on the block gave me the real poop on Santa. Made sense, but I had to find out for myself. And sense I had noticed every Christmas morning my bedroom door had been closed after I fell asleep, I taped a straight pin to the top corner of the door and taped a ballon just below the opening. Dad said Mom never was the same after that Christmas Eve.

Thanks for your advice, but I probably pushed through that safety threshold a long, long time ago.

And in all candor, I actually appreciate Paul,. Maybe it goes back to high school when I had my Austin Healey 3000. It had the wind shield wipers reservoir in the trunk. I had relocatedthe tubing to come out under the dashboard and filled the reservoir with Wild Turkey. We would go to the 7-11, hit the windshield fluid button, make Bourbon/Coke Slurpees and argue about the JFK conspiracy.

Well I'm probably starting to scare people....

Anyway, enjoyed your comments this past week, as always.

Have a good weekend, no joe.

Paul,

Thanks for your comments.

Short on time, but will get back to you later.

no jo: Have you ever noticed that people project upon others what they fear about themselves?

Paul,

Sorry I didn't get back sooner.

You do go on....................

Wow, did I. And what was that to no joe? Whew....

Anyway, I'm OK now...

If you want to reduce the argument to absurdity, that is your option. But it only highlights the weakness of you position.

Defending WikiLeaks is absurd. It did enormous damage. It has no socially redeeming value. It has compromised the Obama administration and America's national security interest. No one is defending it seriously except nuts. Hopefully you are not serious.

The motivation for the murders at FT. HOOD were well known to the military before it ever took place. It wasn't political correctness which caused the failure to avert the crime, it was simple dereliction of duty.

Dereliction of duty? Maybe that could be argued, but everything I read and heard tends to suggest political correctness had more to do with it. If a soldier was to single out a Muslim and not have proof positive of his assertions - his career (advancement) was over. Bottom line, some soldiers deferred to political correctness and other soldiers died. Most of the time when soldiers defer to political correctness, it cost them their own lives. Happens more than anyone understands.

If this "fag" had worked at the State department instead of the Army, it appears he could have just as easily leaked this information to the entire world, not just to WikiLeaks.

Bradley Manning was an emotionally troubled, gay computer hacker with a high school education who had difficulty holding a job. I'm thinking his getting in the Army was easier and more probable than his getting a job in the State Department.

WikiLeaks IS how he leaked it to the world!

Who could have come up with a system of information sharing which could so easily be abused? Find those people

They had a system in place. Wasn't very good. Manning beat it by bring in a disc recorder that looked like a disc player. He acted like he was singing along with Lady Gaga when in fact the device was not playing Lady Gaga - it was down loading national secrets.

They are supposed to assume that there will be "turncoats" with access to the system. The 'system' is supposed to be on the lookout for people engaging in activities with it which flag them as suspicious.

The point of my comments. In such a politically correct environment, you can't "flag" Muslims/Gays - by definition - it is politically incorrect.

Thanks for your comments Paul.

deferring to political correctnes to protect your career opportunities is dereliction of duty and when it results in deaths, your career should be over, and anyone who fails to investigate and prosecute that dereliction is an accessory after the fact. Their careers should be over too.

The opposite should also be true. If I "flag" a suspect, and am told by my superior to let it go, and this "suspect" goes rogue, my superior should lose his position for not following up on the heads-up.

no joe,

Ever notice how newday projects such smug sanctimony, almost in a laughable "narcissistic" way?

BTW- I never saw the DSM-IV post on Obama's Narcissistic Personality Disorder, did you?

Ah, yes more projecting, I would worry about that bobby!

deferring to political correctnes to protect your career opportunities is dereliction of duty and when it results in deaths, your career should be over, and anyone who fails to investigate and prosecute that dereliction is an accessory after the fact. Their careers should be over too.

Your career is over when it is your death. As I said earlier, most of the politically correct deaths are those that made the politically correct decision. You never know in advance, if it doesn't work out - you lose your career. If you are on the battle field - you lose your life and/or the lives of your buddies.

In June, 2005, 4 Navy SEALS in the desolate Hindu Kush, were faced with having to make either a politically correct ROE decision, or a rational military/tactical decision. Were they to risk their careers, liberal activism and possible court martial, or were they to risk their lives and almost certainly have to face 150-200 Taliban (25-1 odds).

They voted and made the politically correct decision.

They were found by the Taliban.

Danny Dietz fought after his thumb was blown off. He was shot in the lower back with it blowing his stomach out, he kept firing. He slumped to the ground when he was shot for the fourth time, this time in the neck, but picked up his rifle and kept firing. He couldn't speak, but would signal for ammunition. The team fought plummeting a thousand feet down a rocky shale cliff. Danny was shot again, this time just below the neck. He couldn't walk now, but as a Marcus Luttrell dragged him to safety, Danny lifted his rifle and fired to help his team mates again. A round hit him in the face and Danny's suffering was finally over.

Michael Murphy was shot in the back and stomach (they were continually flanked and almost surrounded). He walked out into an open area (trying to get a signal for the sat phone) stood exposed trying to get help for his buddies. He was shot through the chest, dropped to his knees - reached for the phone, stood up and thanked the person on the phone. He became separated was surrounded and died in a monstrous fusillade of Taliban fire.

Matthew Axelson had fought after being shot in the chest and now had part of his head blown away. Out of ammunition except for his pistol he labored to tell Luttrell to make it back and tell his wife Patty how much he had loved her. As they waited to die behind a log on the side of that cliff, an RPG round hit and blew Luttrell of the cliff. Axe was later found, his pistol empty and like the others - his face shot off.

Murphy's call for help had gone through. Sixteen of their friends, buddies and fellow service members died when a RPG round came through the open ramp as they were inserting.

Blown up and shot, Marcus Luttrell crawled 7 miles and was eventually rescued.

Michael Murphy was awarded our nations highest honor - the Medal of Honor. Danny Dietz and Matthew Axelson were awarded the second highest (Navy's highest) the Silver Star. Marcus Luttrell was awarded the Bronze Star and later wrote "Lone Survivor" in tribute to his buddies.

Sorry I went on and on, but people just don't understand.

The Hindu Kush is not Scranton, Pennsylvania. The Army is not Dunder Mifflin.

Everything has a cost. People need to realize the cost of political correctness for the military is not the same cost as for some paper company, insurance office, car dealership......

Man I've wasted a lot of time this weekend.

Anyway, if somebody reads "Lone Survivior" and gains a greater appreciation for our military, maybe it wouldn't be such a waste.

"Lone Survivor" is a riveting read. I spent an entire weekend reading straight, I just couldn't put it down. There is no way you can read this book and not have a greater appreciation for our military, I don't care what your politics are.

What astounds me is your willingness to sacrifice these true patriots, bitching about the ROE, and think that it is not important to investigate why they are there, dying, and killing, for us. You do them the greatest disservice and dishonor their deaths by refusing to look at 9/11 as the false-flag criminal conspiracy that it clearly was, and still is, to anyone who has objective eyes to see.

The saddest thing is, if we were allowed to prove it beyond any reasonable doubt, to the world, you would, then, say it was justifiable.

Until then, happens, you will call it an "absurd insinuation".

"Lone Survivor" is an appeal to the emotional, not the rational. It serves its purpose well.

True Paul, it is a very emotional read, but it gives credit to the brave sacrifice of our guys over there. They are where they should not be, fighting for a cause that is not ours, purely for political reasons; first under Bush, now under Obama. This takes nothing away from our soldiers, but the reasons for the war directly reflect upon our leadership of the past 10 years, and it isn't flattering.

Tell you what Paul-

Let me find an old Austin Healey 3000, build a flux capacitor for it and I'll go back in time to when I was in high school - grab a Bourbon and Coke Slurpee, drive by / pick you up and we'll talk about 9/11 all you want.

I don't want it to be a conversation between just you and me. Why would you? What did your highschool discussions accomplish? I saw no protests, demanding a re-investigation of JFK's murder by Dulles and the CIA and then the Whitewash by Dulles and FORD, that was the Warren Commission. They've already fooled you twice, at least. "Shame on you", as the saying goes, unless Bush is mangling it..

TRANSPARENCY would begin with JFK, RFK, MLK, USS LIBERTY, the MURRAH building BOMBS, and the first attack on WTC '93, and the JFKjr assassination. By the time the public was up to speed on those self inflicted wounds by America on Americans, they would look at WTC1,2&7 very differently.

Good point, the Healey is too small. Besides, I was just shopping for a Healey and the ones like I sold for $800.00 are going for $40,000. Sh!t. Remind me to leave a note for myself to not sell it in college to buy the ... Oh yea, remind me to leave a note to not stop at the RR crossing where it got totaled by a carload of drunk Pi Phi s and almost smushed by Mr. Burlington Northern.

Now that I think about it, I better bring a notebook.

Let me get back to you.

BTW - They got John John too? Why did they do that? You sure he wasn't just a marginal pilot.

The body of the flight instructor and the seat he was strapped into were removed from the "crash" site.

Why would they do that? Obama/Kennedy 2012. They weren't going to let another Kennedy have that high a security clearance ever again. "Fool me once,............"

I can't help but notice that you read the USS LIBERTY reference and ignored it. As clear a false flag operation as you are ever going to find.

Bob, I woke up this morning to the news that narcissistic personality disorder was being removed as a treatable condition- I immediately thought of your comments. Seems it is too obvious to the general public.

Paul is a certifiable nut- I wonder if truthers are covered as a treatable mental disease; they certainly should be- so I am not surprised that he has a Kennedy conspiracy theory, as well as a "John John" conspiracy theory. He has probably been abducted and probed, as well. . .

I enjoy your comments- keep on keeping on. There are too few of us-rational thinkers, that is- on this board!

Is that the best you got? Name calling?

If you don't understand that the National Security Act of 1947 was essentially a license to engage in murderous conspiracies then you are beyond help.

Do us a favor and tell the board how L.B. Johnson and MacNamara shut up the survivors of the ISRAELI attack on the USS LIBERTY. A clear false-flag attack to justify a "retaliatory" attack on Egypt by us, should it have been necessary.

Spare us the lame psychoanalysis. Yellowcake from NIGER, please!

And no one who set up the "system" which would allow him to do what he did, has been charged with negligence or dereliction of duty. That's the bigger picture. But in bob's mind they might be gay too, as if that is the issue.

Stockholm Syndrome. Classic case.

Heh heh heh!

Heh heh heh!

LOL! Yeah... like it's some how MY fault they're slow... ;0)

How about da BEARS!

The Bears are gettin' it done. But you gotta feel for the Lions. I know it's small comfort for them, but has there ever been a better 2-10 team? They've played some great teams tough this year.

Indy, You will get no argument out of me... Detroit's 3rd string quarterback gave us a run for our $$$!

I think da Bears should sign him as a back up... ;0)