Mike Pence: Obama 'will be thrown'

From NBC's Ali Weinberg
In a speech at the Federal Society's annual lawyer's convention, Indiana Rep. Mike Pence, considered a likely 2012 candidate for either governor or president, didn't explicitly say he was seeking the White House but certainly stoked the flames of existing rumors.

Speaking to a packed ballroom of conservative and libertarian-minded lawyers at the group's annual gathering, Pence immediately hearkened to the language of the Founding Fathers, most recently adopted by the Tea Party. He began by saying that President Obama "acts like a king."

"A president who slights the Constitution is like a rider who hates his horse. He will be thrown," Pence said, to the laughter of the audience. "The presidency has run off the rails," he continued. "It begs a new clarity, a new dignity, a new discipline. A new president," he continued.

Pence listed the reasons why the current president should not be re-elected in 2012, and the requirements for a hypothetical successor... whoever it may be.

"It depends entirely upon character and self-discipline," he began. "And an understanding of the covenant and principles that underline not only the republic, but life itself. It communicates that the president feels the gravity of his office and is willing to sacrifice himself. That his eye is not upon his own prospects but the storm of issues through which it is his responsibility to navigate with the specific powers accorded to him and the limitations placed upon it, not merely by man but by God."

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The diagnosis is in and it's official...

Mr. Pence is the same clown that was trying to persuade Americans shrimp from the Gulf spill that glow in the dark were safe to eat!

We now know that MAJOR brain damage was a serious side effect...

Dream on Mr. Pence... or better yet maybe you should run as VP along side Bible Spice!

  • 18 votes
Reply#1 - Fri Nov 19, 2010 7:02 PM EST

Another one of the "Irrelevents" tosses his beanie into the ring.

  • 13 votes
#1.1 - Fri Nov 19, 2010 7:07 PM EST

Better than Newt Gingrich, or Mit Romney, or Mike Huckabee. I'd rather see Donald Trump on the republican ticket than these idiot idealogues . They are just as bad as Obama

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#1.2 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 2:03 AM EST

RedHead must be referring to the Obama sauce already on the Gulf shrimp just after the disastrous Obama oil spill disaster.

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#1.4 - Sun Nov 21, 2010 5:47 PM EST

Edward, bud get a grip. Was your hater aid good this week?

    #1.5 - Mon Nov 22, 2010 9:09 AM EST

    Feisty, Oblaba has scorned the Constitution and WE THE PEOPLE will remove him by defeating him in

    the next election, like we did the rest.

      #1.6 - Mon Nov 22, 2010 10:54 AM EST

      I keep hearing that President Obama is "thwarting", "scorning", "slighting", "ignoring" the Constitution. Could someone please list for me exactly the ways in which he is doing this? I can see how some might think that the Health Insurance mandate is unconstitutional because it is not specifically mentioned in the Constitution. (Actually I don't think there was any such thing as Health Insurance when the Constitution was written, so I am not surprised it isn't mentioned) In my opinion, the mandate comes under "promoting the general welfare", but I can see how some might think differently. But other than that, how are this President's policies unconstitutional? (Actually, I think single payer universal health care would better promote the general welfare, but that is just my opinion.)

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      #1.7 - Mon Nov 22, 2010 4:24 PM EST
      Reply

      Another weak one, if he runs. And how could anyone from the party of W. dare to suggest that Obama exceeds his authority or the constitution?

      • 21 votes
      #2 - Fri Nov 19, 2010 7:07 PM EST

      Selective memory loss. Any repub who complains about a president ignoring the constitution is either a liar or smokes way too much weed.

      • 16 votes
      #2.1 - Fri Nov 19, 2010 7:09 PM EST

      Where was this clown when George Bush was wiping his behind with the constitution. Bush had an Army of lawyers telling him how exactly he could bend the rules. What a hypocrite!!!

      • 17 votes
      #2.2 - Fri Nov 19, 2010 11:34 PM EST

      Well said all. Conservatives have tried to coopt religion, claiming no one who's Liberal can also be religious. They've tried to coopt patriotism, claiming no one who's Liberal can love their country. They've tried to coopt law and order, claiming Liberals care more about the guilty than the victimized. They've tried to coopt economics, ignoring Liberal businesspeople like Warren Buffet and Bill Gates while destroying our economy with hare-brained ideas that hand over all of our wealth to those who already have more than they can spend.

      Now they try to coopt the Constitution. It's my Constitution as much as any other American and I freely claim and exercise my full complement of rights. To claim it for their own is repugnant after the abuse heaped upon this glorious document by the Neocons, by the "election monitors" who serve mostly to prevent people from voting, by the Cultural Conservatives who want to know what's going on in my bedroom and the bodies of women, seeking to limit my rights in countless ways. It's repugnant when Conservative legislatures screech "Unconstitutional" when their opponents do things that are perfectly legal, and proper.

      My spiritual ancestors rose up against the aristocracy of England and established a new kind of freedom in the New World. Conservatives seek to establish a new aristocracy, shutting down freedom at every turn.

      • 10 votes
      #2.3 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 9:46 PM EST

      Wow, John.

      Hope your feeling better after your liberal enema.

      • 5 votes
      #2.4 - Sun Nov 21, 2010 3:06 PM EST

      Thanks for conceding you have nothing to refute what I've said, bob. I accept your schoolyard insult as the closest you're likely to come to a concession.

      • 2 votes
      #2.5 - Sun Nov 21, 2010 4:26 PM EST

      Thanks for conceding you have nothing to refute what I've said, bob. I accept your schoolyard insult as the closest you're likely to come to a concession.

      You kidding? When an eighty pound labrador stops, hunkers up and dumps two days worth of doggie dookie, ........ heck no, what's to refute....just an observation, man.

      Most of your posts are OK - typical liberal bs with obscure worthless, biased links, that are hardly worth responding to, but OK.

      This post was the craziest collection of declarative crap I've seen from you.

      If you want, provide an obscure worthless link to any thing above, or explain how/why Conservatives "coopt"ed religion (Liberals can't go to church, or believe in God? How come this wasn't in the news? If they can believe in Man Made Global Warming, that Obama is going to lower the tides, etc. - they can certainly believe in God.); that Conservatives "coopt"ed patriotism / liberals can't love their country? (Huh - Just because a high school kid crashes his 5.0 Mustang and continues driving it like an idiot, doesn't mean he doesn't love his car. Conservatives do try to tell liberals that the actual definition of patriotim is not love and defense of your Leader Dude, it is the love and defense of country. Liberals seem to get that confused a lot, but saying they can't love their country? Who said that and why wasn't that in the news?)

      Anyway, hopefully you get the gist (even if you don't get the jest)

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      #2.6 - Sun Nov 21, 2010 7:05 PM EST

      Bob, john is on his back in the center of the ring counting lights. Great stiff jab followed by the hook he couldn't see!

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      #2.7 - Mon Nov 22, 2010 12:05 AM EST

      Bob, Jimmyshark, you both have yet to do anything except throw schoolyard insults at John. Neither one of you has disputed any of what he said. Thank you for showing just how bereft of ideas you are. Now go back to class, recess is over.

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      #2.8 - Mon Nov 22, 2010 8:36 AM EST

      Hi Matt! I know you are not originally from the great state of Texas based on your post. I have never said that a lib cannot be a God fearing follower of Christ, and I am pretty far right. I have never said that a democrat cannot be a patriot. As far as the "whats going on in the bedroom" take, the only group that likes to adverstise who is blowing the flute is the gay community, which happens to be linked real close to the left. So when your buddy Johnny, wants to speak with his broad tongue of a brush the hammer is coming down. This site is not legal zoom dot com. The only thing getting accomplished around here is alot of crying or laughter. I prefer the laughter. It is a damn shame you cannot pick your classmates. I say all day recess! Seven days a week! Want to play four square?

      • 2 votes
      #2.9 - Mon Nov 22, 2010 9:06 AM EST

      The thing about Conservatism is you don't CARE if you're talking out of both sides of your mouth. therefore it's entirely too easy to prove you're full of it.

      Proof that Conservatives seek to coopt religion. http://www.amazon.com/Godless-Church-Liberalism-Ann-Coulter/dp/1400054206

      Just one of THOUSANDS of times Conservatives have denied the patriotism of Liberals. http://www.wnd.com/index.php?pageId=23925

      A whole LIST of Conservative falsehoods about Liberal views on economics. http://reason.com/blog/2010/08/25/awful-things-most-liberals-don

      And ALL OF THIS is from Conservative sources. Ah, now I remember where I've seen you before.

      http://www.merchandisingplaza.us/images/products/9783/img2.jpg

      • 3 votes
      #2.10 - Mon Nov 22, 2010 9:27 AM EST

      Game, Set, Match - John B

      EXCELLENT use of the Monty Python at the end. Masterful! LMAO.

      When they can't debate the merits, they attempt to baffle with bullsh!t. I guess you saw through the ruse?

      Truly excellent. For those who've taken Karate, John B just pulled a perfect Opponents at side C, complete with the double head slam. Well played, sir!

      • 2 votes
      #2.11 - Mon Nov 22, 2010 11:00 AM EST

      Johnny, when you see my name posted as a subscriber to anything on one of your virus laden sites, please let me know. In the meantime, try to get in touch with Clara. She appears to be lonely. When you go to your favorite hot girls live website for your streaming video feed and the chick with the camera in her bedroom says she loves you and missed you do you believe that too? Let me give you a hint, she doesn't. Now, on the other hand, I think that Clara wants to give you a good old TSA patdown! Go with the summer sausage duct taped to your leg. You don't want to lose this one. I bet she will bring the cheese. She seems like she digs the salami.

      • 1 vote
      #2.12 - Mon Nov 22, 2010 7:36 PM EST

      Hey clara, when you get a hold of that salami, karate chop that tube into bite sized slices. I bet you have a kung fu grip.

      • 1 vote
      #2.13 - Mon Nov 22, 2010 7:43 PM EST

      Oh and Johnny, if she asks for the pearl necklace, oblige her. Show her some good old Texas hospitality.

      • 1 vote
      #2.14 - Mon Nov 22, 2010 7:53 PM EST

      Thanks for your personal attacks, jimmyshark. Now we can all see you got nuthin'.

      • 2 votes
      #2.15 - Tue Nov 23, 2010 8:56 AM EST
      Reply

      And Mike Pence should be thrown - Into a mental institution....

      Mike Pence is just another holy roller who invokes God in everything..What a farce, todays conservatism is so mean-spirited and vile, it has not one thing in common with what "God" and christianity is supposed to be about....

      • 20 votes
      Reply#3 - Fri Nov 19, 2010 7:31 PM EST

      In a poll released last month, Athiest actually knew more about the bible than those who consider themselves Christians...Go figure!

      • 5 votes
      #3.2 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 7:03 PM EST

      Choosing not to believe in or follow a particular religion is perfectly within each and everyone's right.

      However, blatantly condemning and ridiculing others simply for their belief in Christianity with words of vicious hatred clearly demonstrates a hollow, very shallow individual with nothing but uncontrollable, vent-up inner hatred and contempt for his/her fellow man.

      It is truly difficult for hate-filled people such as this to actually consider themselves as human-beings..... when it seems quite apparent...... they are so very far from being human.

      • 3 votes
      #3.3 - Sun Nov 21, 2010 9:17 AM EST

      The Christians that are real believers in the teachings of Jesus Christ go around and do good deeds for the poor and disenfranchised in our society. You do not hear them preaching that they are "Christians" and god is telling them to be on the side of the rich and the greedy. True Christians just go about their lives doing good deeds and respecting their fellow humans. Not everyone who claims to be a Christian is living the teachings of Jesus Christ.

      • 3 votes
      #3.4 - Sun Nov 21, 2010 9:44 AM EST

      Pence is a CON-MAN. He isn't really a Christian. He just wants Christians to think that he is one of them.

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      #3.5 - Sun Nov 21, 2010 10:09 AM EST

      Hey Paul,

      Pence is a CON-MAN. He isn't really a Christian. He just wants Christians to think that he is one of them.

      So, you're saying Pence is another Obama?

      Was Pence's mother like Obama's who he said about;"who I think had as much influence on my values as anybody (including pastors?)" - "She wasn't a church lady". Was Pence's father like Obama's father, who he wrote about his dreams - "an agnostic" with Muslim parents. Was Pence raised in Hawaii "where obviuosly there are a lot of Eastern influences" and Indonesia, "the largest Muslim country in the world"? Did Pence say "I've drawn as much from Judaism as any other faith."

      Did Pence not find religion until he found the political power of church groups/organizations when he was a community organizer? Did Pence join his first church where a radical politically powerful pastor preached "GOD D..N AMERICA'" like all good Christian pastors do? Did Pence throw his Christian mentor under the bus when he became a political liability and hasn't found another church since?

      My favorite testimony to Obama's Christian faith are his own words from a 2004 interview with Cathleen Falsani:

      FALSANI: do you believe in sin?

      OBAMA: Yes

      FALSANI: What is sin?

      OBAMA: Being out of alignment with my values

      Unbelievable. Obama's religious beliefs are based on his values!

      Sound like a typical Christian to you?

      or, sound like a typical narcissist who's religion is liberalism.

      • 3 votes
      #3.6 - Sun Nov 21, 2010 5:35 PM EST

      So you believe that Pence is a Christian, because you want to believe that he is a Christian, That is exactly what a CON-MAN relies upon. Your internal bias.

      I don't care whether Barack is a Christian or an agnostic. He didn't say that a sin was being out of alignment with the teachings of Muhammad or the word of Allah. He actually sounds more like a FREEMASON than a Christian or Muslim.

      • 1 vote
      #3.7 - Sun Nov 21, 2010 9:48 PM EST

      Rick, when you still worship tribal totem poles some of this stuff will escape you. Try not to singe your short hairs when you do the fertility dance around that bonfire.

      • 1 vote
      #3.8 - Mon Nov 22, 2010 12:07 AM EST

      Nah, I don't care about Pence. Funny how all the lefties soil themselves everytime someone on the right mentions God, though.

      Obama is a narcissist. What's worse is that he is an unaccomplished, clueless narcissist that is incapable of grasping his cluelessness due to his narcissism.

      That combination is much more dangerous than any, or lack of any, conventional religious belief.

      • 3 votes
      #3.9 - Mon Nov 22, 2010 4:46 AM EST

      Going to church does not equal being a Christian. Didn't Christ say something about knowing who his followers are by the DEEDS that they do? To me that means taking care of those less fortunate than ourselves.

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      #3.10 - Mon Nov 22, 2010 4:59 PM EST

      Or the less fortunate striving to be more than what they are.

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      #3.11 - Mon Nov 22, 2010 7:49 PM EST
      Reply

      Mikey, the President feels the gravity of his office and sacrifices himself every step he takes trying to deal with nuts like you. He is working very assiduously to move this country forward. You nuts keep obstructing. You don't feel the gravity of the debt ceiling, unfunded wars, tax cuts for the middle class, financial reform or education. You foment violence, doubt, racism, bigotry, and fear.

      To substantiate my claim the secret service has increased. The unprecedented number of death threats against President Obama has risen in racist hate groups, and a new wave of antigovernment fervor threaten to overwhelm the US Secret Service, according to government officials and reports, raising new questions about the 144-year-old agency’s overall mission.

      http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2009/10/18/secret_service_under_strain_as_leaders_face_more_threats/


      • 16 votes
      #4 - Fri Nov 19, 2010 8:02 PM EST

      Beverly,

      Hello GF-- this is an excellent article...I'll tell you one thing--if anything happens to President Obama the minority communities will raise the rafters of hell...

      All of the Republican spouting and racist rants by the likes of Palin, Limbaugh et'al will only get them a first class ticket to hell...they've been flirting with this...and it's not a wise thing too do...

      The problem with the race baiters is the fact that they're too entrenched in old school tactics...there is no Dr.King to save them and this generation is vicious, they will rise up...I don't think that what they are insinuating is wise....

      • 10 votes
      #4.1 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 9:30 AM EST

      Hello GF-- this is an excellent article...I'll tell you one thing--if anything happens to President Obama the minority communities will raise the rafters of hell...

      Hiya Ms. Anita!

      Good to see you out and about this morning!

      It won't be ONLY the minority communities that rise up... it will be a FULL blown civil war!

      And in the end... the righties would be lucky if we gave them Texas!

      Have a GREAT day Bev & Anita!

      • 9 votes
      #4.2 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 9:39 AM EST

      Hi Red!!

      Love you! Had to comment on this; you're ABSOLUTELY correct...it will be all of US minorities that will rise up! They are doing nothing but p-ssing us off and they're too ignorant and arrogant to see the hand writing on the wall...we've been quite and any imbecile SHOULD recognize that fact that when people continue to keep silent..chit bubbles and eventually explodes...

      We've all taken enough and they are pushing the envelope...I'll take Texas for $100! lol!!!

      Have a great weekend! **HUG**

      • 8 votes
      #4.3 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 10:40 AM EST

      LOL, Civil War? Please, for one thing nothing is going to happen and to even bring up the issue of a "Civil War" makes you three just as STUPID as the threats. The last POTUS had just has many threats and you three fools probably would had been happy to see something happen, I hope I'm wrong, but thinking I'm not.

      I don't care for Obama's policies and there's nut balls in this country, but to make those statements makes you three just as dangerious as those idiots.

      • 4 votes
      #4.4 - Sun Nov 21, 2010 1:35 AM EST

      I love how the way Conservatives smear out of one side of their mouths, deny out the other side, and pretend facts don't exist the entire time. Talk by Republicans of seceding from the Union, "watering the tree of Liberty with the blood of Patriots", and "Second Amendment remedies" are such an out front and aggressive stance there's no point in trying to deny it. This talk is having an effect, too;

      Since Mr Obama took office, the rate of threats against the president has increased 400 per cent from the 3,000 a year or so under President George W. Bush, according to Ronald Kessler, author of In the President's Secret Service.

      Some threats to Mr Obama, whose Secret Service codename is Renegade, have been publicised, including an alleged plot by white supremacists in Tennessee late last year to rob a gun store, shoot 88 black people, decapitate another 14 and then assassinate the first black president in American history.

      http://crooksandliars.com/john-amato/president-obama-faces-increase-400-deat

      Don't pretend that it's just a few isolated crazies, either. That's a crock. With Glenn Beck having compared the President to Hitler dozens of times and every talk show host declaring him to be a threat to the American way of life on a regular basis it's being whipped up deliberately by the Conservative message machine. It isn't just the propagandists pretending to be entertainers, either. People with political aspirations do it regularly;

      The United States Secret Service has just released information that shows a strong correlation between a rise in potential and actual death threats against the president and remarks made by Sarah Palin, John McCain’s former vice presidential running mate. Palin's attacks on President Obama, including specific comments regarding his patriotism, led to an increase in threats against Obama during the last weeks of his presidential campaign, when Palin accused him of "palling around with terrorists."

      http://www.rollingout.com/insiderohome/ro-today/10576-secret-service-connect-sarah-palin-to-death-threats-increase-against-obama.html

      It's past time for the "party of personal responsibility" to stand up and take responsibility for the hate and division that they willingly and deliberately cultivate with the public.

      • 5 votes
      #4.5 - Sun Nov 21, 2010 10:32 AM EST

      Paul-Florida,

      You're just as stupid and arrogant as the race baiters are and I'll wager younger...and it's evident that you know NOTHING about American History or the long suffering of generations...

      if anything happens to President Obama you may as well tuck your head between your legs and kiss your a-s goodbye because many are silent...frustrated and watching what's unfolding...

      It will be an ugly sight indeed....because words matter and eventually lead to actions...it will be ugly...

      • 1 vote
      #4.6 - Sun Nov 21, 2010 11:41 AM EST

      Careful, Anita. They are trying to bait you into an uprising. The FEMA camps are ready to open under REX84 authorization. Do not resort to violence, it will only lead to whole scale mass murder. 9/11 will pale in comparison, fading into a footnote in the history of the survivors.

      • 1 vote
      #4.7 - Sun Nov 21, 2010 11:54 AM EST

      Paul-977599,

      I'm not being baited into anything, I'm speaking fact for those that choose to continue to play dumb...there won't be enough of anything to survive for the FEMA camps...

      People play dumb all the time and the history of our nation has been down played to make these idiots THINK that ordinary decent American citizens will allow them to bring harm to themselves or this nation...

      As for me and my house--we stand ready to defend and ready to die to protect OUR rights if necessary...

      • 2 votes
      #4.8 - Sun Nov 21, 2010 1:54 PM EST

      Paul-977599,

      One more thing...I just left the TSA article on Newsvine and the hate and talk of an uprising against this government is strong on that blog...

      That is why I've made myself VERY clear and so has a vast number of us....we see the handwriting on the wall and Ray-Ray doe's too...

      • 1 vote
      #4.9 - Sun Nov 21, 2010 2:05 PM EST

      There's nothing wrong with Anita and her friends that couldn't be cured with some reeducation.

        #4.10 - Sun Nov 21, 2010 5:55 PM EST

        Anita: I am serious, dear. There will be nothing to defend. You will be presented with a choice, die of the plague they have released into the world, or go to the FEMA camps to get the "vaccine". 2% of the world's population will have been pre-inoculated. An uprising will give them an excuse to begin the "program". Our only hope is to begin a general strike. Our economy must be brought to a complete halt, by our inaction, not by violent action.

          #4.11 - Sun Nov 21, 2010 9:57 PM EST

          Bev, I know that aliens have abducted you and you have photos of the locknest monster and big foot. Quit trying to mix hatred in with people who are just sick and tired of our president wasting time. The majority of conservatives don't hate the man. We are just disgusted with his policies and the dead weight that idolizes him. Trust me, if there were any legitimate threats against our president, main stream media would have ran with that story long ago for the sake of ratings. Quit trying to stir your pot of animosity. One thing that does make me happy about Mr. Obama becoming president is that it sure has put a muzzle on the keeping us down garbage. He is a decent man in a job that he is not qualified to do. Period. In two years, it will all be over.

          • 4 votes
          #4.12 - Mon Nov 22, 2010 12:17 AM EST

          jimmyshark

          Bev, I know that aliens have abducted you and you have photos of the locknest monster and big foot. Quit trying to mix hatred in with people who are just sick and tired of our president wasting time. The majority of conservatives don't hate the man. We are just disgusted with his policies and the dead weight that idolizes him. Trust me, if there were any legitimate threats against our president, main stream media would have ran with that story long ago for the sake of ratings. Quit trying to stir your pot of animosity. One thing that does make me happy about Mr. Obama becoming president is that it sure has put a muzzle on the keeping us down garbage. He is a decent man in a job that he is not qualified to do. Period. In two years, it will all be over.

          jimmyshark,

          It's you who got it mixed up.

          Conservative Blogger Calls For Obama's Assassination On Twitter (Updated)

          Read more: http://jezebel.com/5498461/conservative-blogger-calls-for-obamas-assassination-on-twitter-updated#ixzz15zRfAEbt

          Well, here's another Twitter user helping to keep the Secret Well, here's another Twitter user helping to keep the Secret Mar 29, 2010

          http://gawker.com/5498712/meet-the-obama-death-tweeter-who-will-be-arrested-today

          • During Obama's April 2009 visit to Turkey, a man was arrested and confessed to his plan to stab President Obama. The Syrian man reportedly had an Al-Jazeera TV identification card, which would have allowed him entry to the Alliance of Civilizations summit, which Obama was attending.

          · Alfred Brock

          On February 10, 2009, police reported that a Louisiana man namedAlfred Brock drove up to the Capitol Complex and told guards he had a delivery for President Obama. Police questioned him and he admitted to having a rifle in his truck. The man was arrested without incident, and charged with possession of an unregistered .22 caliber rifle.

          · Steven Joseph Christopher

          42-year-old Steven Joseph Christopher was arrested on January 16,2009, for allegedly threatening Obama's life on the Alien-Earth message board. Posts credited to Christopher claimed that he intended to sacrifice Obama's life as a message to "Jewish parasites," and claimed that the assassination would be for "the country's own good.

          Go back to isolated, cowardly, colony of bigots in denial.

          • 2 votes
          #4.13 - Mon Nov 22, 2010 1:57 AM EST

          Looks like Obama might want to stay in the Whitehouse and stop poking his head out. I don't wish the man to die. I wish he would stand up on his own two feet and stop taking advise from Soros and stop taking his money. My husband said he was a puppet for someone long before he was elected. I guess he might be right. For those who want Obama dead, all you have to do is wait we all are appointed a time to die. It is not your choice to say when that time is.

          • 2 votes
          #4.14 - Mon Nov 22, 2010 5:16 AM EST

          Debora-389330

          Looks like Obama might want to stay in the Whitehouse and stop poking his head out. I don't wish the man to die. I wish he would stand up on his own two feet and stop taking advise from Soros and stop taking his money. My husband said he was a puppet for someone long before he was elected. I guess he might be right. For those who want Obama dead, all you have to do is wait we all are appointed a time to die. It is not your choice to say when that time is.

          So you think nothing of the death threats? You speak like a true, hateful, racist Beckherhead.

          Would you be surprised to know the Koch brother are pulling Beck's strings?

          Tea Baggers are some scary people.

          http://thinkprogress.org/2010/10/28/thinkprogress-media-chamber/


          • 1 vote
          #4.15 - Mon Nov 22, 2010 9:09 AM EST

          OH Bev, take a pill. I am not a teabagger. I am a person who looks at the picture and weighs the evidence. I did not vote for Obama because he did not sound like he had any evidence that he could be the President. He didn't have a clue in my book, Neither did the McCain.

          Did you actually read my post? It is not our choice to when the time for some one to die is. I think the death threats are wrong. I have to be honest though I am shocked that someone has not already tried to kill him. He is not different from any other person in the Presidential office. Someone is always trying to kill them. Did you honestly think he is the first man inthe Presidential seat who was going to go his whole term without a death threat. My stars A great thought but not hardly realistic.

          • 2 votes
          #4.16 - Mon Nov 22, 2010 9:50 AM EST

          Bev, where are you, when you realize that you are wrong you should apologize. That is the only right thing to do. Oh and the name calling is sooooo childish.

          • 1 vote
          #4.17 - Mon Nov 22, 2010 10:15 AM EST

          Debora, the name calling is not childish. Seems like Bev and the other Libs have been drinking too much coffee since they got the boot from Congress. They should have been drinking tea which is good for the health of a human being. That excess coffee is keeping them awake for 24 hours a day. Their writings look stoned.

          • 1 vote
          #4.18 - Mon Nov 22, 2010 11:26 AM EST

          JuvenBachan, you are too much. Have a cup of tea on me. :)

            #4.19 - Mon Nov 22, 2010 11:33 AM EST

            Those who think George Soros is pulling Obama's strings are misinformed. Soros supports progressive policy. Obama's policies are centrist rather than progressive.

            • 1 vote
            #4.20 - Mon Nov 22, 2010 5:06 PM EST

            Bev, no matter how badly you want me to hate you for no good reason, I refuse. You are a fine American woman who, at the moment is extremely misguided but we all walk thru peaks and valleys on this journey called life. Be patient. You will soon crawl out of the gorge and back up the hill into the sunlight and I will be there to welcome you. I am with you my sister! I am with you! Always remember, the sun will even shine on a dog's mangy butt. It does not play favorites. Take heart!

            • 1 vote
            #4.21 - Mon Nov 22, 2010 7:58 PM EST

            Debora...you said...

            My husband said he was a puppet for someone long before he was elected. I guess he might be right. For those who want Obama dead, all you have to do is wait we all are appointed a time to die. It is not your choice to say when that time is.

            What do YOU think?...Or do you have a mind of your own?....this comment sounds sad...it sounds like a woman that doesn't have a mind to THINK rationally on her own...SHAME on you for being a Stafford Wife! lol!! crazy.....(fill in the rest)

            • 3 votes
            #4.22 - Tue Nov 23, 2010 12:01 AM EST

            Anita, I am not as "IN THE KNOW" about some things as my husband is because I worked in a job where I couldn't listen to the news as much as he did. I believe that my husband is more into the political knowledge than I am. I watch the news; well when we have a TV, and I listen just like he does. Before being stationed in Germany I worked 40 hours a week, went to Choral practice, Studied for School, church , church choir and kept house. Not much time to see the news.

            I had never heard of Soros until a couple of weeks ago and I asked my husband to tell me more about him. So he explained who Soros is and I looked him up on the web to find out more also. Some of us; until we moved, didn't have as much time as others. So if I am a stafford??? wife then so be it. I now have the time; as I am job hunting, to catch up on more news so I am learning a lot.

            • 1 vote
            #4.23 - Tue Nov 23, 2010 3:30 AM EST

            Anita,

            I think Debora is using the term "learning" a little loosely,...just sayin'.

            Hey Debora

            If I were you, I'd look up Rupert Murdoch and find out why an Australian wants to manipulate the Republicans and American Politics so much? What is he trying to do to America? and Why? PS. George Soros is a Naturalized citizen. Why isn't Rupert?

            That should at least get you questioning BOTH sides of the issue, and not just the propaganda you are being fed.

            • 1 vote
            #4.24 - Tue Nov 23, 2010 10:49 AM EST
            Reply

            Pence is an idiot. And another leader from a welfare state of Indiana. If you can't make ends meet in your own state without getting more federal funds than you give you aren't worth s@#t. You cost me money and I won't let you run the federal government. I have no plans on becoming a third world nation on your watch. You should thank President Obama for keeping you safe and keeping us from another great depression. Instead you act like a racist pig like most Republican have become.

            • 17 votes
            Reply#5 - Fri Nov 19, 2010 8:13 PM EST

            Pence WHO! The same Pence who has been in congress for so long, never did or said a thing while Bush was spending growing government, didn't fund any of the wars, tax cuts, helped pass TARP who also didnt do a thing to keep up safe but let 9/11 happen on his watch.

            That Pence , the do nothing say anything to get head lines

            You got to be kidding, what a joke

            • 14 votes
            Reply#6 - Fri Nov 19, 2010 9:06 PM EST

            wow i want some of what MIKIE is smoking !

            • 11 votes
            Reply#7 - Fri Nov 19, 2010 9:18 PM EST

            It must be some wicked good bud dude.

            • 8 votes
            #7.1 - Fri Nov 19, 2010 9:30 PM EST

            Ana for a banana, you have no apPEAL.

            • 1 vote
            #7.2 - Mon Nov 22, 2010 12:20 AM EST
            Reply

            Interesting ala;n simpson and backus the two people in charge of bipartisan get rid of debt commitee basically said we cannot solve this crisis by taxing our way out of it or just cutting spending.We need both plus getting rid of some tax credits.we would all have to sacrifice.Which,I think us dems are willing to do for the greater good.Alan simpson republican said this"Any politician who says they will cut earmarks,control government spending,Elimenate fraud and waste,Is a JERK.........Interesting we dems were willing to be unpopular for the greater good.Some just want to say what everyone wants to hear."I will lower your paycheck.....[while the in terest on debt keeps ticking] and our government remains underfunded.we arent worried because we believe in sharing...unlike the otherside...just want to take,

            • 7 votes
            Reply#8 - Fri Nov 19, 2010 9:35 PM EST

            Eliminating the income cap would solve the social security problem. Doing nothing and allowing the Bush tax increase to go into effect would help tax receipts. And getting the F#@! out of Afghanistan now would help cut spending. Somehow I don't think any of those ideas will fly with either side.

            • 4 votes
            #8.1 - Fri Nov 19, 2010 9:46 PM EST

            Indy,

            I think that the Republicans have bumped their collective heads...wasn't it the Bush Administration and Republican Majority that passed the 500-600 billion dollar Medicare drug bill without investigation, funds and questions?...

            NOT a single one will fly...

            • 4 votes
            #8.2 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 12:53 PM EST

            I can't support any of Alan Simpson's policy suggestions. He lost me at the 10% tax cut for the wealthiest 1% of the country. Anyone who suggests that the way to cut the deficit should be by cutting taxes for the rich and cutting safety net programs for the poor does not deserve to be taken seriously. A government which would take everything the poor and middle class has left and give it to the richest in order to reduce the deficit is a government which has completely lost it's moral compass and does not deserve to govern a country the size of this one.

            • 1 vote
            #8.3 - Mon Nov 22, 2010 5:14 PM EST
            Reply

            Where do they get these guys? I think they're all on mind altering drugs.

            • 9 votes
            Reply#9 - Fri Nov 19, 2010 10:08 PM EST

            For a mind altering drug to work requires one to have a mind!

            • 4 votes
            #9.1 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 7:09 PM EST

            Repeat after me: "Follow the money....follow the money.....follow.....". There's always somebody behind these individuals who pull their string$$$$$$.

            • 2 votes
            #9.2 - Sun Nov 21, 2010 12:10 AM EST
            Reply

            It is amazing how for the past two years Obama who taught const. law is constantly attacked by the right as unaware of the const. or ignores it, hates it.

            Yet Bushies totally shreded it for 8 years along with admitting to int'l war crimes is praised.

            I often feel like an episode of twight light zone with an alternate universe where half the people have memory loss and believe the world started on Jan 20 2009 when the President was sworn it.

            • 16 votes
            Reply#10 - Fri Nov 19, 2010 11:20 PM EST

            Hey Sanity! Hear ya! Republicans have one play in their playbook, take their own obvious failings and demonize the other side for that very thing! These are the worst sort of sophists, the degree of dishonesty is unbelievable, it often crosses into psychosis in my opinion, especially the likes of 'Beck and Gingrich, they are truly delusional. There is no point in bantering back and forth with Republicans, because that is their game, pick a fight! We need to just be forceful about our agenda and ignore the diatribe coming fro the extremes that are the right wing

            • 10 votes
            #10.1 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 1:47 PM EST

            sanityismine,

            Bush didn't shred it! He wiped his a-- with it!

            • 3 votes
            #10.2 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 9:18 PM EST
            Reply

            Where was Pence when Bush was trashing the Constitution and calling it "just a piece of paper?" That said, Obama does seem to have nearly as little regard for the Constitution as Dubya. Remember during his campaign when he led us to believe he would get rid of the un-patriotic Patriot Act? He lied to us about that. The Patriot Act is about as unconstitutional as a law can be. And, the Obama administration continues to waste our tax dollars on wars of aggression and the war on marijuana. And he sure cozied up to the Fed, helping them avoid a much needed audit. I'm really having a difficult time seeing a difference between Republicans and Democrats. The results sure seem the same.

            • 5 votes
            Reply#11 - Fri Nov 19, 2010 11:23 PM EST

            The problem with Obama is he is too easy on the right. The patriot act, gitmo, and DADT would be gone if Obama could do as he pleases. However, he is trying too hard to get respect from the right. He will never get it no matter what he does.

            • 7 votes
            #11.1 - Fri Nov 19, 2010 11:38 PM EST

            And FISA. Don't forget FISA. That one particularly galls me.

            • 1 vote
            #11.2 - Fri Nov 19, 2010 11:46 PM EST

            FISA was and became an ever more slippery slope. Now we have National Security Letters. Self written search warrants by the FBI themselves, which you are not allowed to tell anyone, not even your attorney, that one has been presented to you. Orwell would be so saddened to see that his cautionary tale 1984 was ignored by the masses and put into practice by the Plutocrats.

            • 2 votes
            #11.3 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 11:15 PM EST

            D-nice,

            I think you mean Obama is a weak man................he never tried to work with anyone, but his inner circle.

              #11.4 - Sun Nov 21, 2010 1:41 AM EST

              Right...because all those meetings with the opposition never happened. The DOZENS of Republican positions included in everything from HCR to Financial Reform condensed out of thin air. The meeting that Conservatives wanted then stiff-armed him on JUST LAST WEEK was a mirage.

              What color is the sky in your world?

              • 3 votes
              #11.5 - Sun Nov 21, 2010 10:38 AM EST

              In his world, unless you are compromising into accepting proposals which have no chance of working to the benefit of the majority and actually help the richest minority, you haven't worked with them.

                #11.6 - Sun Nov 21, 2010 10:44 AM EST

                I agree that if Obama could just wave a magic wand things would be very different. It seems that part of the problem is that he is trying to follow the procedures for representative government that are set out in the Constitution. If he wasn't trying to follow the rules regarding the balance of power, he would have accomplished a lot more of his agenda. Bush didn't care so much about the rules, and the Dems still had respect for the executive branch, so Bush was able to get his agenda through more easily than Obama.

                • 2 votes
                #11.7 - Mon Nov 22, 2010 5:21 PM EST
                Reply

                This guy is sad. Many of the republicans these days seem like they need to up the ante so they can get their crazy sound bites repeated. The crazier the statement the more attention it gets.

                • 10 votes
                Reply#12 - Fri Nov 19, 2010 11:41 PM EST

                 Mike (I REALLY want to be sombody rellivent) speaks...

                 

                • 4 votes
                Reply#13 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 1:18 AM EST

                Pence may want to reconsider his thoughts about running for President. Most don't know him. And those who do aren't impressed by him. His chance of even being nominated are slim to none and Slim just left town.

                • 3 votes
                Reply#14 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 7:55 AM EST

                These GOP folks hate America and the constitution:

                Americans dont want tax cust for the rich - GOP does

                American want DADT repealed - GOP does not

                America wants STARt ratified - GOP does not and puts American in harms way

                The GOP wants to change and repeal elements of the consititution, and somehow clain that the President is against the constitution?

                the Presidents Debt commision comes out with SPECIFIC ways to deal with the debt challenge, the GOP run for the hills despite all the votes from the Tea Party. The GOP is lietterally pissing all over the team party.

                Thee sheer stupidity of the people who support the GOP is shocking?

                • 10 votes
                Reply#16 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 10:09 AM EST

                Carl D,

                LOL...the American majority will put an ass whipping on them if they don't deliver, so I wouldn't be too jubilant right about now if I were you...were you jubilant when the Nation was melting down?...lol...I think not...you were probably about to chit all over yourself along with the rest of the WORLD...

                I also recalled praying many prayers that Bush wouldn't sign anything before he left...I also remember people being posted in the halls of Congress after hours to ensure that he didn't do anything else...one more thing...how about those pristine land leases????...

                Yep...it's a good thing to remember or you're doomed to repeat it...

                • 1 vote
                #16.2 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 9:08 PM EST

                LOL, WHAT???????????? people posed? praying many prayers? Land leases? LOL OK oh by the way, what the hell does that me??

                "I also recalled praying many prayers that Bush wouldn't sign anything before he left...I also remember people being posted in the halls of Congress after hours to ensure that he didn't do anything else...one more thing...how about those pristine land leases????.."

                • 1 vote
                #16.3 - Sun Nov 21, 2010 1:45 AM EST

                Thanks for making Anita's point, Paul. Conservatives have no respect for anyone else's position and live in a self-centered world of FYIGM.

                • 3 votes
                #16.4 - Sun Nov 21, 2010 10:41 AM EST

                John B,

                Much appreciation for the tanks on my behalf to this one...I don't think that he reads much...

                • 1 vote
                #16.5 - Sun Nov 21, 2010 11:45 AM EST

                I don't think that he reads much...

                LOL...

                Paul reads alright... the problem is with his comprehesion... he's more often then not DRUNK!

                OK oh by the way, what the hell does that me?

                HUH? Isn't it a wee bit early to be hitting the bottle or are you home from Church of Saint Mattress already?

                Right Paul? ALOUD = ALLOWED???

                • 2 votes
                #16.6 - Sun Nov 21, 2010 11:54 AM EST

                Feisty Redhead Roselle, IL

                Paul reads alright... the problem is with his comprehesion... he's more often then not DRUNK!

                Thank you, Girl Friend

                It's either that or his mother dropped him on his head when he was a baby!!!

                Paul-Florida how can you call us stupid when you say..

                LOL, Civil War? Please, for one thing nothing is going to happen and to even bring up the issue of a "Civil War" makes you three just as STUPID as the threats. The last POTUS had just has many threats and you three fools probably would had been happy to see something happen, I hope I'm wrong, but thinking I'm not.

                I don't care for Obama's policies and there's nut balls in this country, but to make those statements makes you three just as dangerious as those idiots

                Stupidity, fiction, and denial is proving to be your strongest assets, Paul. Every one in the world knows President Obama has received more death threats than any other president in history. You read the link I gave and still deny the truth!!! You can go on your rightie’s website where the goons make up all kinds of sh!t about our President. You’d have a lot of company there.

                In the mean time let me suggest you actually try to think of the impact your righties' website have even when they deny it.

                "Armed and dangerous" quote from Michelle Bachman

                In March 2009, Bachmann was interviewed by the Northern Alliance Radio Network and promoted two forums she was hosting the next month in St. Cloud and Woodbury regarding Obama's proposed cap and trade tax policy to limit greenhouse gas emissions. Bachmann said she wanted Minnesotans "armed and dangerous on this issue of the energy tax because we need to fight back." In the interview, she also stated that Thomas Jefferson had said that "having a revolution every now and then is a good thing.

                http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michele_Bachmann

                If you still can’t comprehend what I wrote , Paul maybe you should look at the gun toters pictures below. All you need to do is click on the links...

                http://www.skepticfriends.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=12703

                http://newsjunkiepost.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/912-TeaParty-DC-We-came-unarmed-this-time.jpg

                http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_BX2aSG8RqEU/Seg9lw2r1WI/AAAAAAAAB68/hWzTH9PbPFc/s400/We+Came+Unarmed+This+Time.jpg

                http://images.huffingtonpost.com/gadgets/slideshows/2673/slide_2673_37544_large.jpg

                A Fatwa against Obama is being sublimely issued by Fox News , Glenn Beck, Hannity and Silly Sarah Palin. Btw: that silly statement she made about she beat President Obama, it could only happen in her wildest dreams. We have seen some right wing politicians flirt with the idea of secessionism. Enter, Texas Governor Rick Perry and Sarah Palin's husband Todd.

                Sean Hannity had made plain his intentions even before the inauguration. At his Web site, he began organizing in December what he called “the conservative underground” and asking people to “join the resistance” to the Obama administration. At the site’s discussion forum, one of his regulars posted an online poll asking respondents to answer: “What kind of revolution appeals most to you?The possible answers:

                A. Military Coup.

                B. Armed Rebellion.

                C. War for Secession."

                http://crooksandliars.com/files/vfs/2010/11/Hannity-Revolution.jpg

                Lunatic loudmouth cowards always twist and turn their inner demons.

                Hugs to you Anita; glad to see your feisty spirit pop in.

                • 3 votes
                #16.7 - Sun Nov 21, 2010 4:51 PM EST

                Fiesty, how in the hell would you know if he drinks if you were'nt the wench behind the bar serving? I could easily say, Fiesty is in the community library in chcago posting where soon she will return to her cardboard box and flaming 55 gallon drum heat source. How did you get your library card without proper ID?

                • 2 votes
                #16.8 - Mon Nov 22, 2010 12:23 AM EST

                Hi Beverly,

                I try popping in when I can! I'm amazed at some of the articles I'm reading on Newsvine and the COMMENTS...they are so racist that it's amazing me in this day and time...

                • 1 vote
                #16.9 - Tue Nov 23, 2010 12:07 AM EST
                Reply

                Beware of any politician who is quick to use "God" for his/her purposes. Pence is a good example of it. These peope (Pence, Newt, Quitter Palin) like to claim that God is on their side but they are willing to let the rich get richer and the poorer get poorer. They are sickening.

                • 9 votes
                Reply#17 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 10:12 AM EST

                Mr. Pence is a sad example of an individual with great ambitions, but yet, an individual who lacks the requisite intellect, ability to effectively convey coherent ideas, and overall gravitas to realize those great ambitions. His conspicuous silence while the Constitution was being either perverted or wholly ignored by the previous administration, will be an appropriate yoke on his ambitions for higher office. Wait until his record is placed under the microscope, as he attempts to become more relevant during the next two years.

                • 8 votes
                Reply#18 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 10:30 AM EST

                Well said my observant friend! Just more meaningless Republican sophistry, words piled together with just one purpose, the belittlement of the President. In retrospect, this era will be recognized for the blatant racism and hatred that the Republicans have foisted on the American People. I believe this President will be transformative and remembered for his efforts at ending the vitriol and demonizing.

                We are in the beginning of a new Renaissance Period, and we are witnessing the final throes of a painfully antiquated paradigm of human interaction. The human need to belittle another in order to enhance ones self will soon be recognized as a debilitating mental illness, a failing of passage into maturity caused by mindless greed and avarice.

                • 10 votes
                #18.1 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 1:36 PM EST

                Straightline

                I hope you are right because if you are not, our nation is going to be in a civil war. Our young adults need to pay attention because it is their future that is being corrupted by the mindless greed and arrogant indifference to the needs of the majority, that is coming from the right. There is no way we can stand by and let this unholy bunch of thieves get away with ruining what is left of our country.

                • 4 votes
                #18.2 - Sun Nov 21, 2010 1:25 AM EST
                Reply

                Did anyone ask God For His or Hers Opinion. Keep talking GOP it will be your down fall!

                • 8 votes
                Reply#19 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 11:53 AM EST

                Carl: Is that another code word Scorched earth, you are just proving the point. Conservative are just proselyting their religion, through code words and everyone who is not Xtain extremist knows it. This is what I'm talking about yes and Burn in 2012 what does that mean I'm going to your hell I think not. Wake up and smell the Secularism in America!

                • 6 votes
                #19.2 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 1:08 PM EST
                Reply

                I'm getting so sick and tired of hearing that Obama is too soft on this and soft on that...WTF does anyone remember?...we had NADA respect in the world and believe it or not...RESPECT goes a long way--

                As for the Republican Party and the likes of Mike Pence...those people aren't capable of running anything and history has that recorded...

                Bush was the worst in my opinion, but the worst president of all time was James Buchanan...and in this NEW century...it will be Bush and the Republican leadership...

                As quoted by Pence...

                "A president who slights the Constitution is like a rider who hates his horse. He will be thrown," Pence said, to the laughter of the audience. "The presidency has run off the rails," he continued. "It begs a new clarity, a new dignity, a new discipline. A new president," he continued.

                The Presidency was RAN off the RAILS with Bush/Cheney and they attempted to royally f--k us up with McCain/Palin...

                Speaking of the Constitution...what has President Obama done that has slighted to Constitution? Become the President elect?...

                Is there a Black CEO on Wall Street that's most notable, is there a Black CEO on Wall Street that's a trust fund baby? I think NOT...

                Who has had control of our Nation's finances? Who has had control of our Nation in the Majority since it's inception for that matter? How many Black Senator's and Congressmen are there? Better yet...ANY minority?...

                Bottom line...They've had AMPLE time and opportunity to get the job done but all they've been doing is playing master over all and stealing as much as they can get their hands on...

                So...they want to just be in charge without the benefit of qualifications? Sounds like it too me; because the likes of Palin thinks that "she's" qualified to be President...

                P.S....for those asses that want to call my TRUE observations racist because I'm talking about your asses have at it--I'm calling as IT IS...FACT...

                • 8 votes
                Reply#20 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 12:43 PM EST

                ahhhhhh............the race card, well played, well played...........the Democrats got their clocked cleaned in the worse defeat in 70 years and it's Whities fault. Naw, it wasn't the stupid policies and the free handouts that people who pay taxes had enough............hey what about Allen West of Florida??? Any support there? Yeah, you're a racist.

                • 2 votes
                #20.1 - Sun Nov 21, 2010 1:54 AM EST

                Paul FL,

                Call me what ever you want too call me I've been called worst and I stand by my comment...

                Your ilk have had control of this nation since it's inception--every bit of land was stolen and people were stolen from their countries to work as slaves...

                They were all nationalities...who built the damned railroads...I think that a GREAT number of them were Chinese...who designed Washington D.C.?...who toiled and built the White House.?....I'm just throwing out a few observations to an idiot...

                These people don't want to give up their Dominion...they want too keep f---ing up and God forbid if another MINORITY decides to dare to RUN for President again...their idea is too kill that dream in it's crib...

                • 3 votes
                #20.2 - Sun Nov 21, 2010 11:55 AM EST

                No, Obama is, by far, the worst President America has ever seen. Second place would, of course, be Jimmie Carter. Third place, "Slick Willie" Bill Clinton (What does "is" mean??)

                  #20.3 - Sun Nov 21, 2010 6:18 PM EST

                  Anita, Birmingham, Alabama

                  I'm getting so sick and tired of hearing that Obama is too soft on this and soft on that...WTF does anyone remember?...we had NADA respect in the world and believe it or not...RESPECT goes a long way--

                  Ditto that for the case against charges against Bush/ Cheney/ Rumsfeld/ Wolfowitz and the whole cabal of Bush torturers.

                  Committing or ordering torture is a severe crime under both international and U.S. laws. It can exercise its jurisdiction only when national courts are unwilling or unable to investigate or prosecute such crimes.[12][13]Primary responsibility to investigate and punish crimes is therefore left to individual states.

                  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Criminal_Court

                  It is the duty of the Justice Department and ultimately the Attorney General to make those decisions not President Obama. Based strictly on the political interests to regain the White house for the Party of "No" instead of the need for jobs, jobs, and jobs, the new Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty (START), (the republicans were for before they were against), surely will give the American people a reason to connect no jobs to money for wars instead of butter. Given the republicans willingness to exploit policies of the President with lies, distortions, and innuendoes; plus their bigotry, we should not be surprised that President at moment is looking forward rather than backwards.

                  Please go to London Mr. Bush so america put your criminal acts behind her.


                  • 4 votes
                  #20.4 - Sun Nov 21, 2010 7:19 PM EST

                  In deposition, "it depends on what your definition of "is" is." This is one attorney disputing the structure of a sentence, and the requisite answer, with another attorney. You Laymen should steer clear of conversations you don't have the education to understand or even quote accurately. Yellowcake from NIGER, please! B!tch! That means you Edward.

                  George W. Bush got thousands of Americans killed to enrich his daddy's friends. Need we say more?

                    #20.5 - Sun Nov 21, 2010 10:11 PM EST

                    Beverly,

                    I second your ditto! Neither Bush or Cheney can leave this nation without being arrested as criminals...

                    It's a damn shame that we don't have any media with balls enough to REALLY come down on these clowns without being afraid of losing their jobs...

                    Look what happened to Olbermann! We had to raise hell and threaten to boycott MSNBC! It worked then and it will work now if we organized it! It's for the good of our Nation...

                    Too long has MSM (corporations) picked our leaders through SELLING CHIT...it's time that we take our nation back....

                    • 2 votes
                    #20.6 - Tue Nov 23, 2010 12:19 AM EST
                    Reply

                    Rhetoric, meaningless sophistry, let me try, Pence Walks the Plank!! Pence, a Bush Republican with no regard for our sacred Constitution, who in the heat of battle was willing to discard every fiber of our unique heritage and character, a braggart given to diatribe who readily backed that rogue regime as it resorted to torture, and worst of all spying on the hard working everyday man, the American People. There can be no place for this racist villain in the leadership of this great nation!!... hows that, see you can just say anything you want because there is free speech... Now go listen carefully to the Republican talking points, remember how they promised to do the peoples business when they took office...they are already running for 2012, with no agenda for our progress. There is no plan being promoted to create jobs, they are still just saying no to extensions of benefits for unemployment! Nothing ever changes with Republicans. They complain about redistribution of the wealth, all the while being engaged in redistribution of the wealth upward to them!

                    • 10 votes
                    Reply#21 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 1:20 PM EST

                    You know, when president Bush was in office, the Democrats didn't sit around and say trashy things about him, and they had plenty of things to say. I am so tired of hearing the Republicans run our president down that I can't think straight. It doesn't matter if they like him or not, he still IS the President of the United States and that means he is THEIR president too. They talk about him like he isn't even human. I really think they are so jealous of him and that is why they are always running him down as well as being black. Why don't the Tea Partiers stand up and say something to them, they have protested about everything else. Something has to be done about this. These idiot TP voted more REpublicans in so now nothing is going to get done except the back stabbing. DEMOCRATS stand up for our president.

                    • 7 votes
                    Reply#22 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 2:32 PM EST

                    cm-1156161,

                    TheRepublicans (not all of them) that are left in Washington aren't statesmen and women...they are puppet want-to-B's...they use their elected offices to garner support for "personal gain"...in so much that's it's becoming transparent...

                    Now there are some Democrats that do the same thing and Rangel is an example...but I can't talk about him without talking about the people that elect these people into office...

                    AS for President Obama being drug in the mud constantly...there are many that will say "it isn't because he's BLACK" (BS) it's because of his policies....

                    We KNOW full well that it is because he's BLACK because he's the first Black President elect--elected by the people...they are afraid of losing their dominion, when in essence...they've already lost it...

                    Its one thing to want to control or manage something that you actually KNOW how too...but it's another when you're NOT qualified and want to be in charge because of your paint job, or because you've always done so...

                    • 6 votes
                    #22.1 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 8:58 PM EST

                    YEAH, because he's BLACK!!! LOL you're a FOOL!!!!! He would had never won without the White vote. He hasn't preformed and that's why there was over 60 seats changed for the Republicans and if Obama keeps doing what he's doing, he will be a one term President and you will throw out the race card even more, because that's all you have. Oh, Rangel is a crook, not because he's Black, because he never paid his taxes. Not paying taxes is a racial thing, Turbo Tax Tim didn't pay neither and he's White.

                    • 3 votes
                    #22.2 - Sun Nov 21, 2010 2:00 AM EST

                    You're a bit twisted up about this race issue. Racism is about power.

                    In your mind Obama won the Presidency because he managed to fool a bunch of white kids into voting against your self interests by turning themselves into "ni66er lovers".

                    Geitner UNDERPAID his taxes and has now paid all that he owed.

                    • 1 vote
                    #22.3 - Sun Nov 21, 2010 10:24 AM EST

                    "Racism is about power."

                    Well Paul, you had to be right about something eventually. The rest is still wrong. A bunch of white kids realized that a qualified black man was the best qualified candidate for the job, showing that there IS progress in the fight against racism.

                    A bunch of white Conservatives were scared to death by this development and did everything within their power to put him in his place. Not all Conservatives are racists but they're quite willing to harness the power of racism to their ends.

                    • 5 votes
                    #22.4 - Sun Nov 21, 2010 10:47 AM EST

                    John B: Don't mix me up with Paul from Florida. Read a little more carefully, please. I like what you post.

                    • 1 vote
                    #22.5 - Sun Nov 21, 2010 10:53 AM EST

                    My bad Paul, thanks for the correction. I've been seeing Paul from Florida all the way down through the thread and he's yet to say anything that didn't come straight off a Conservative bumper sticker.

                    • 2 votes
                    #22.6 - Sun Nov 21, 2010 10:59 AM EST

                    Paul-Florida,

                    I really did pull your strings didn't I?...So glad too be of service...you are talking way in right field...I'll keep hammering away on this until some smart journalist with guts start talking about it in earnest...

                    Enough with the sugar coating, its high time that this subject reaches the public...I don't mean a stinking partisian poll either...I'll be willing too bet that what I'm observing is what millions of other feel and see as well...

                    It has been a pleasure educating you dear Paul....

                    • 2 votes
                    #22.7 - Sun Nov 21, 2010 12:04 PM EST
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                     President Obama is a Harvard educated Lawyer/Scholar who specialized in Constitutional law Magna Cum Laude. Yet, we now have a second rate Insurance Lawyer, named Mike Pence,who thinks Obama doesn't know enough about the Constitution and would naively disregard it. If any demographic could be described as unconstitutional in their actions....it would be the Insurance companies.

                    • 9 votes
                    Reply#23 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 3:56 PM EST

                    Tonytellsthetruth,

                    Republicans and MSM is selling a message...MSM is a corporate entity that want to pay as little in corporate taxes that they can...they are members of the US Chamber of Commence...

                    These are their claims...

                    U.S. Chamber President Offers Plan to Address America’s Greatest Economic Challenges ... The U.S. Chamber places the full weight of its organizational capacities behind one overarching mission--strengthening the competitiveness of the U.S. economy to increase opportunity and prosperity for all Americans.

                    I'll say this again...HOW many minorities are there in America that own notable corporations, control Wall Street, or are Trust Fund Babies...

                    Follow this link and read this...http://www.uschamber.com/

                    The Republican leadership in Washington and America for that matter has engaged in what we should all be aware of and that's stagnating this Nation under this Administration, all with one thing in mind and that's failure...

                    They want this administration to fail because it has galled them that the people actually elected President Obama into office (a black President); it has nothing to do with his qualifications; because we all know that he's qualified...

                    Bush wasn't qualified too be governor of Texas let alone President of the US...Bush Senior didn't want him to run, he wanted Jeb too run...it was about his family tree...Was Bush qualified? NO Bush barely made it out of school....

                    President Obama was a Constitutional Law Professor and President of the Harvard Law Review...they are green with envy and constantly attack the fact that he is an ivy leaguer...you would think that it's a dirty word when most parents strive to send their children to Harvard or Yale...

                    They can't call him dumb or ignorant...so they attack him with lies to people that are ignorant and racist...look at Palin and Limbaugh for a perfect example...

                    Pence and his ilk are ignorant and are playing down education when education is What's lacking in our Nation....I guess they think that the dumber we are...the better they look...

                    • 5 votes
                    #23.1 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 10:10 PM EST
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                     President Obama is a Harvard educated Lawyer/Scholar who specialized in Constitutional law Magna Cum Laude. Yet, we now have a second rate Insurance Lawyer, named Mike Pence,who thinks Obama doesn't know enough about the Constitution and would naively disregard it. If any demographic could be described as unconstitutional in their actions....it would be the Insurance companies.

                    • 6 votes
                    Reply#24 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 3:56 PM EST

                    Gold star, Tony. I have nothing to add.

                    • 2 votes
                    #24.1 - Sun Nov 21, 2010 10:50 AM EST

                    President Obama is a Harvard educated Lawyer

                    Not as relavent as his socialistic leanings. If you're left leaning, progressive or a socialist you'd love him if he was illiterate.

                    • 1 vote
                    #24.2 - Sun Nov 21, 2010 3:09 PM EST

                    were ........illiterate, bob. Is English your second language?

                    • 1 vote
                    #24.3 - Sun Nov 21, 2010 3:21 PM EST

                    Not as relavent as his socialistic leanings. If you're left leaning, progressive or a socialist you'd love him if he were illiterate.

                    Sorry that kept you from addressing the issue. I guess sentence fragments are acceptable, when used by you.

                      #24.4 - Mon Nov 29, 2010 6:09 PM EST

                      fragments are fine............relevant is the word you were attempting use, twice now, illiterate, bob.

                        #24.5 - Mon Nov 29, 2010 7:40 PM EST
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                        NO pennies for his thoughts.

                        • 1 vote
                        Reply#25 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 5:42 PM EST

                        Once again the Repubs are doing what they do best, win elections. How refreshing would it be to see them govern for a change? Or at least try to govern!

                        • 5 votes
                        Reply#26 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 7:27 PM EST
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