Plus there is the actual policies and laws passed by the best, most competent speaker ever. She was so good she got so many of her members canned. That's failure, plain and simple. And let's all hope she does come back as minority leader.

Then there's the things she didn't do - no budget and no vote on preventing everyone's taxes from going up.

See- another one from the radical fringes. Pelosi did NOT cause taxes to go up. Bush did that when he put the 'use by' date on that bill. (which, by the way, reminds me: IF the tax breaks create jobs, why haven't they been used by this late date to do so???)

Jody,

..... the extraordinary Great Depression we're still recovering from.

Wow. I thought Obama prevented the second Great Depression.

BTW - Maybe the Great Depression would not have been Great had FDR pulled the federal government back. Obama was following the same game plan. Seems some Americans have figured it out.

Goes with the economy.

Obama said he could fix it with his agenda and policies. It was all the failed policies of Bush right? His policies and agenda have not budged it. His agenda has not worked, and never has for any of the others that have tried it before, time after time.

Americans get it.

Spanky,

The 2008 starting rotation of Obama, Reid and Pelosi to pitch the same stuff again in 2012?

Heck Yea, we'll take that.

By failing to act Pelosi can cause taxes to increase for all. We can call them the Pelosi tax increases.

Pelosi didn't just get 68 democrats canned because she was the best speaker ever. She lined up and lead the firing squad. She knew what she was doing, and gosh darn it I can only hopes she keeps on keeping on.

Really, she comes from a place that just banned Happy Meals. Happy. Meals. Clearly the folks in SF know better than us that Toys are bad. Very Bad. So says them.

"Goes with the economy."

That's the cliche, isn't it?

Actually it goes with the frustration of not being represented. Neither party represents us. So we have the endless flim flam where ideology is just a put-on and democracy is a sham. To pretend otherwise is silly.

In 1982, with the economy worse than today, and before Reagan's programs had a chance to go into effect, Reagan's party lost 26 House seats, and no Senate seats.

In 1994, after increasing taxes and ATTEMPTING HCR, Clinton lost 53 House seats, and 7 Senate seats.

Heck, Jimmy Carter only lost 15 House seats and 3 Senate seats.

With the war growing more unpopular, GW Bush lost 30 House seats and 6 Senate seats, and the media categorized that as a landslide.

So, what do we make of 68 House seats, and 6 Senate seats? The media and the left say it is some kind of misunderstanding.

I can tell you it is the voice of a people who are angry at voting for a pragmatic centrist and getting a far left ideologue instead. They did not want the policies he rammed through without the consent of the governed, and they spoke, loudly, at the ballot box.

I have been saying for a year and a half that it would be easier to find a palm tree in Minnesota in January 2011, than a democratic representative in congress. Looks like I was right.

So, now all we need is for Obama to get miffed, take his bat and ball, and go home.

That is change I can believe in!

Spanky,

Most of us want the top earner's taxes to rise back to level comparable with their income....

basedrum,

What is that level? 250K? You think 250K in NYC rich? In LA? San Fransisco? My Uncle is selling his store he had for 27 years in Northern California because of this mess. I was out there 3 weeks ago thinking about buying it. For one thing, he won't sell it to me because of the BS taxes and wouldn't do that to family. If he keeps it, which he won't, he would have to let go 2 of 4 people because of the 250K BS. This Government needs to figure out real quick that this 250K doesn't mean you're rich if you're a small business owner. Obama is out of touch with the American Business owners.

Good one.

But seems like the so-called extreme Tea Party was a reaction to the extremism of Obama's agenda.

The mad Hungarian and all his money, groups, media is main stream? Unions main stream? Been there all along drive-by. Stevie Wonder can see that, why not you guys?

And about that Gridlock.

Business has been screaming about uncertainty for over a year. If grid lock is a certainty, business can certainly use that certainty - the certainty that more crazy, destructive legislation isn't going to hit them in the head. Wait and see, shouldn't be long either.

The right advanced the well being of the country by stopping Obama as best as they could. All those NO votes by Republicans were proxy votes for the American people until they had a vote.

Well, they voted last Tuesday.

Perhaps if you didn't just drive by you would realize that the Dems and Obama made no real effort to meet anyone half way on anything. It was their way or their way. If you didn't like it and you were a Republican you were told how stupid, or racist, or whatever other label they wanted to come up with you were. You were then kindly escorted to the back of the bus and told to be quiet. If you were a dem and didn't agree you were bribed with other people's money so that you would "Just go along with the program".

Fortunately for America we have this little thing called an election process where the people get to speak. And in speaking we sent the Dem majority in the House packing. Now, the Dems and Obama will actually have to meet the Repubs part way and they will have to listen rather than put on Obama powered infomercials.

That probably won't happen. You can look to California. Hard Left. They are already marginalized and hard core. Good news for us is they are about to run out of money. You can only inflate pensions and give away governmental services for so long. And that threshhold was crossed already.

And Sparky 1028 you are confusing me with your handle. Good news is you seem to know what you are talking about.

Harry who?

no joe, no bo, nj

Lord, I see we are still on the "it was an anti-incumbent wave".

Does it not strike you as odd that just about all of those Incumbents were democrats?

Not even worth a mention?

What I find strange is that the Tea Baggers would drag clueless people off the streets to replace an experienced incumbent who served them well; case in point Russ Feingold.

Good service is in the eye of the beholder. Evidently Russ wasn't all that hot according to his constituents.

The electorate must be wrong (or is it ignorant/don't know what is good for them). Feingold was deemed to be deficient. People who like progressive policies don't go hard right to make their point. The guy who beat Feingold ran a business, and understood what it is to have to make a payroll. Kind of important, no?

Bev. have you ever had to make a payroll? Ever employ other people and be totally responsible for their salaries?

Hey no joe, no bo

Obama's friends and progressive family here at FR don't seem to be talking about it, but is Obama OK?

I was reading an op-ed in the NYT (I think it was NYT) and this guy was talking about free markets, how America should be known not for what we consume, but what we produce, on and on. Great stuff. I thought it was some Round Table CEO. It turns out, it was the President of the US!!!!!! Obama his own self????

Then I read about the trip we had been talking about. Seems Obama straightened out the trade problems, the export restrictions on India in only a few minutes (and between site seeing trips with Michelle) after arriving in Mumbia. Met with 200 American big business execs (why did he have to go to India to that?) On and On...

Great stuff, but Obama flying around and meeting with big business fat cat CEOs? Boeing, GE, McGraw Hill, etc.,

Obama has gone from being at war with the Chamber of Commerce to sounding like the president of the Chamber of Commerce in one week.

Is Obama OK? Is this a new double/decoy that stood in for Obama and still had Bush's old script?

Or, did Obama really get the message last Tuesday, has switched back to the centrist for campaign purposes and kicked off his 2012 campaign in Mumbia?

Weird huh.

I was struck by some of those same things, bob.

In particular I was struck by the change of tune in a few short days. Only ten days or so ago, we were being exhorted that evil businesses were outsourcing jobs to India. Oddly, now Obama is talking about how trade with India supports about 50,000 jobs right here in the good old USA.

Stranger Stijl, not one of the posters on the left have mentioned this. Not a peep.

It is true, of course. The fact is, it was true a week ago, six weeks ago, six months ago. It just seems that Obama only got the memo with his trip itinerary. Guess it did not fit his narrative before then.

I swear, if he told them they could fly, they would all jump off their roofs.

JAMES DUCKWORTH

If we all look at it in proper perspective re electing the SAME OLD TOADS is getting us back in the same old @!$%#ter they are the ones who got us to where we are now , I SAY KICK OUT ALL THE INCUMBENT'S PERIOD GET BACK ON THE HORSE THAT WILL LEED US NOT BURY US.

Your statement is a prime example of what I mean by cluelessness. I'm not calling you clueless. I'm just saying...doesn't Cristine O'Donnell ring a bell; even FOX NOISE won't touch her?

Has Alexi G. been indicted yet?

How about alan Greyson. Is he more or less crazy than O'Donnell?

Spanky-

Has Alexi G. been indicted yet?

How about alan Greyson. Is he more or less crazy than O'Donnell?

Wow, another classical example of dim- witted stupity and someting clueless; there Spanky!!!

Is it a crime to play professional basketball for Panionios basketball club in Greece?

You couldn't be talking about the Broadway Bank which-- like many businesses -- struggled during these challenging times-- just like thousands of small community banks at risk fell on hard time in this country did.

It's a myth that Alexi approved loans to known mobsters and that's why the bank was in trouble. On numerous occasions since 2006, he has mentioned that most banks did not do criminal background checks on their loan applicants but rather lend based on credit worthiness, collateral and property valuation. Because of banking regulations that were strictly followed by the bank, all of these loans were legal and reviewed by state and federal regulators.

The fact is, if you're speaking of Tony Rezko, Rezko was not a convicted felon, under indictment, or even under public suspicion, when he received loans from Broadway Bank.

Any suggestion that these few loans had any relationship to the bank’s financial problems is a dim-witted lie.

Alexi committed no crime despite Repugs trying to portray Alexi as a mafioso.

You need to look at Kirk's lies and how he will vote. Already, he has lied about his promise to be a good senator he gave at beer summit at the Billy Goat Tavern.

Kirk said he's eager to vote with others in the GOP to protect wealthy Americans from paying more when Democrats consider extending Bush-era tax cuts for everyone else.

That doesn't bode well to be in lock step with the Republican/Tea Bagger Party to be for Wall Street instead of Main Street!!!

He really needs to read that book about Abraham Lincoln Alexi gave him.

colinx

The man smiles and responds, "You must be a Democrat."
"I am," replies the balloonist. "How did you know?"
"Well," says the man, "You don't know where you are or where you're going. You've risen to where you are, due to a large quantity of hot air. You made a promise that you have no idea how to keep, and now you expect me to solve your problem. You're in exactly the same position you were in before we met , but, somehow, now it's my fault."

I read that joke on another website except it was the republican.

And start with the Tea Partiers! It will prove they are serious!

Tea Party, seriously clueless.

Not clueless, "astro-turf" is what Pelosi called them back in mid 2009. So it would appear that Pelosi lost 68 of her members to fake grass. She must really suck.

Spanky-

Not clueless, "astro-turf" is what Pelosi called them back in mid 2009. So it would appear that Pelosi lost 68 of her members to fake grass. She must really suck.

Actually, it is the "astro-turfers" who are kinda like Kanye West and Tea Baggers that suck.

Political campaigns and special-interest groups are using scores of fake Twitter accounts to create the impression of broad grass-roots political expressions where there are none. Faking a political movement is called "Astroturfing.

Wherever there are lots of eyes looking at screens, spammers will be there; so why not with politics?"

http://www.technologyreview.com/computing/26666/?p1=A1&a=f

Now, gencsh, why in the world would we want somebody with that kind of experience in the Senate? The way you talk, you would think that the Founders had in mind a group of citizen representatives, rather than career politicians! You would think that this country was founded by people who had a low regard for people who were born to government, rather than those who were chosen by their fellow citizens based on their belief that they could represent their interests, then come home to tend their own business!

What are you, some kind of patriot? Are you one of those nuts who study American history or something?

My goodness, next you will be telling us George Washington eschewed the title King!

gensch

Oh, by the way, he is not a "Teabagger".

Whatever

Read any of Bev's comments lately? Just saying. . .

Off getting looped at the " Dew Drop Inn".

Chris-1400348

Rove........................drop dead

That's a good idea, though I rather see him going to jail for an investigation of his corporate front groups American Crossroads by the Internal Revenue Service; then he can "drop dead" .

I'd also like to see Bush/Cheney having 'hell in a cell " in The Hague while waiting to be convicted for treason and war crimes. So do millions of other people in the world.

Classic there Bev, whether you disagree with Bush he was our President. How do you feel again if people talk bad about Obama? You're just as stupid as the people that don't think Obama is our President. There's a difference from dislike and stupidity and you're on the stupidity side.

I would hazard a guess that you believe as our president does, that the majority of American voters are much too simple to see the brilliance of his leadership? It's all about you, ain't it?