Giannoulias, Kirk meet for a beer

What's with Illinois politicians and Beer Summits? Alexi Giannoulias (D) and Mark Kirk (R) met for a beer after their bruising election fight for the Senate, which Kirk won narrowly.

Check out this piece from NBC's Chicago affiliate:

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Kirk, the perpetual liar will show his true colors doing the lame duck session. I'm willing to bet to protect corporate tax loopholes that ship American jobs overseas again. What about the Discourse Act?

Kirk is supposed to be moderate [liar] A leopard never changes his strips.

Alexi saved 600 jobs at Des Plaines-based Hartmarx when he stood up to Wells Fargo, which wanted to liquidate the men’s clothing company. Giannoulias threatened to pull Illinois’ $8 billion in investments from Wells Fargo unless the bank, which had received $25 billion in federal bailout money, realized its responsibility to save American jobs. The bank relented and the company stayed in business.

Kirk has disappointed us. He began his interview with the Editorial Board by listing all his bona fides as a social moderate and fiscal conservative, including votes against wasteful government spending and for stem-cell research, increasing fuel economy standards and health insurance for children.

True, perhaps, but how does that explain his flip-flop on cap-and-trade? He voted for it in the House but said he would vote against it in the Senate.

http://www.rrstar.com/carousel/x806165006/Our-View-Manufacturing-focus-makes-Manzullo-best-choice-in-16th

As an example of Kirk’s doubletalk, Clemmons cites Kirk’s promise in early August to support the Education, Jobs and Medicaid Assistance Act in the House, an emergency bill that saved at least 5,700 teaching jobs in Illinois. A day after the announcement, Kirk voted against the bill.

Kirk has repeatedly voted to protect corporate tax loopholes that ship American jobs overseas. And he is solidly against reforming the practices on Wall Street that nearly tanked the U.S. economy. It’s no mystery why. MarketWatch, part of the Wall Street Journal news group, called Kirk a “pig at the trough” for taking in over $826,000 in campaign contributions this cycle alone from the financial industry

http://www.ibew.org/Election2010/states/Illinois.htm


Can we trust Senator-elect Kirk to tell the truth? I doubt it. But, I hope Alexi's reaching out does some good for the people in America and not the multi domestic and global corporations.

He should read the republican, Abraham Lincoln's book too.

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Reply#1 - Thu Nov 4, 2010 1:59 PM EDT

I'm willing to bet Kirk votes to protect corporate tax loopholes that ship American jobs overseas again. What about the Discourse Act?

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#1.1 - Thu Nov 4, 2010 2:07 PM EDT

Your poop is stinkin' up my party! =D

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#1.2 - Thu Nov 4, 2010 2:12 PM EDT

Bev..

Did you hear.. America Fired Nancy Pelosi...

    #1.3 - Thu Nov 4, 2010 2:49 PM EDT

    Exactly how much are you willing to bet?

      #1.4 - Thu Nov 4, 2010 2:55 PM EDT

      I wish somebody would specifically detail the "corporate tax loopholes that ship American jobs overseas." I've heard and read the term, but I haven't had anybody tell me exactly what these loopholes are.

      Can anyone enlighten me?

        #1.5 - Thu Nov 4, 2010 3:01 PM EDT
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        Ending a race semi-amicably over a cold one? I'll drink to that.

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        Reply#2 - Thu Nov 4, 2010 2:01 PM EDT

        Here, here! St. Arnold's!

          #2.1 - Thu Nov 4, 2010 2:16 PM EDT

          It's one of the best things about us mid-westerners. We can resolve most anything with beer!

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          #2.2 - Thu Nov 4, 2010 3:17 PM EDT

          Here's a folksy little song I and my mates enjoy on our way to the pub. Call it a ritual:

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXy6JHYa5Ks&feature=related

          From evening to morning
          And morning and evening
          I wanna drink
          Something stronger than a man

          From evening to morning,
          And morning and evening,
          I wanna drink - 'cause that's what I am!

          BEER-BEER!
          I want beer!
          From beer I get really drunk!

          BEER-BEER!
          I need more beer!
          So much I pass out!

          For beer I'm working,
          For beer I'm fighting,
          For beer I'll do
          Whatever I have to!

          When drunk I'm talking!
          When drunk I'm joking!
          When drunk I can be as I've
          Always wanted to be~

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          #2.3 - Thu Nov 4, 2010 3:27 PM EDT

          I only drink by myself at home, and only as a coping mechanism. It's what muh daddy taught me.

          Seriously though, good song. Our ritual as friends is to become stereotypes as quickly as possible. The angry drunk, the chauvinist, the laugher, the womanizer. Me? I'm the apologetic drunk.

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          #2.4 - Thu Nov 4, 2010 4:34 PM EDT

          If you enjoyed the tune, I heartily recommend checking out their other songs. Korpiklaani is all about booze-related ribaldry.

            #2.5 - Thu Nov 4, 2010 4:44 PM EDT
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            Class move by Kirk to suggest the Billy Goat - An iconic Chicago tavern whose Greek-American owner was a huge and vocal Alexi supporter. Class move by Alexi to not only attend the meeting but to present Kirk with a book of Abraham Lincoln quotations.

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            Reply#3 - Thu Nov 4, 2010 2:05 PM EDT

            I think this is an example of how we should be treating each other instead of the usual venom that gets tossed around.

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            #3.1 - Thu Nov 4, 2010 2:17 PM EDT

            Your absolutely right. The only one that doesn't seem to be able to get the message is Bev. If she isn't being hateful or calling someone names, she just doesn't seem to be happy. Apparently she doesn't like the fact that majority rules in the state of Illinois. I'm proud that I cast my vote for Mr. Kirk. Hopefully by the time the recount for Gov is completed Brady will have won that election as well.

              #3.2 - Thu Nov 4, 2010 4:21 PM EDT
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              The After Party is the only party worth supporting...

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              Reply#4 - Thu Nov 4, 2010 5:00 PM EDT

              ...beer-beer?

                #4.1 - Thu Nov 4, 2010 6:35 PM EDT

                Pre-functions can be quite nice, too. And mid-functions are great for bridging the gap between the two.

                Mmmmm, beeerrr.

                Doh!!

                  #4.2 - Thu Nov 4, 2010 6:57 PM EDT
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                  Just part of the Hartmarx history:

                  (Then juxtapose it against, from Beverly, Chicago : "But, I hope Alexi's reaching out does some good for the people in America and not the multi domestic and global corporations.)

                  "The 1990s was a period of offshoring of production facilities to control costs. During that period, they closed ten domestic factories and shifted production to the Far East, Mexico, and Costa Rica. Expansion continued in this period with the acquisition in late 1996, of bankrupt Plaid Clothing Group, Inc., a maker and marketer of men's tailored suits, sportcoats, and slacks; Pusser's Ltd., including the Pusser's of the West Indies line of nautical and tropical sportswear and outerwear in 1998; and in December 1998; Coppley, Noyes and Randall Limited, a leading Canadian maker of men's tailored clothing. In August of the following year, the company acquired Royal Shirt Company, a Canadian maker of women's and men's dress and sports shirts.

                  The label enjoyed considerable publicity during the 2008 Presidential Campaign when then Senator Barack Obama wore the brand extensively, including suits tailored especially for his acceptance speech and the 2009 Presidential Inaugural Address. Obama expressed a personal affinity for the brand, which is based in his hometown of Chicago.

                  The company and its United States subsidiaries filed for bankruptcy on January 23, 2009. At the time, the company said its Canadian and other non-U.S. affiliates had not sought bankruptcy protection.[2][dead link] Workers threatened to occupy Hartmarx's plant if the company's creditor, Wells Fargo Bank, attempted to lay off workers and liquidate the company's assets.[3] On June 22, 2009, Hartmarx Corp. received five bids for its assets in its bankruptcy proceedings. Bidders included Emerisque/SKNL North America, Affliction Clothing Co., Perry Ellis, and Versa Capital Management. In Aug-2009 Emerisque Brands UK and its partner SKNL North America completed their purchase of Hartmarx."

                    Reply#5 - Thu Nov 4, 2010 6:50 PM EDT
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