Just 32% of Tea Party candidates win

AP

A Don't Tread On Me flag flies above protesters at a rally in April in Macon, MO.

From NBC's Alexandra Moe
For all the talk of the Tea Party's strength - and there will certainly be a significant number of their candidates in Congress - just 32% of all Tea Party candidates who ran for Congress won and 61.4% lost this election. A few races remain too close to call.

In the Senate, 10 candidates backed by the Tea Party ran and at least five were successful. (Race in Alaska has not yet been called.)

In the House, 130 Tea Party-backed candidates ran, and just 40 so far have won.

Identifying Tea Party candidates is undoubtedly inexact. Our criteria, generally, was to include anyone who has either been backed by a Tea Party group or has identified themselves as a member of the Tea Party movement. Toward the end of this cycle, however, seemingly every Republican was trying to associate themselves this way. One left off the list was Dino Rossi, despite Jim DeMint endorsing him, since Tea Party groups backed Clint Didier in the primary.

A note to correct the record: After about 20 hours of crunching numbers, one of us on your First Read authors looked up at 4 am and heard MSNBC use a much higher number. We went back and checked, and the numbers are much lower. Here's a full list:

SENATE - 10 TOTAL

5 WON - 50% of Tea Party candidates won
PA- Pat Toomey
KY- Rand Paul
FL- Marco Rubio
WI- Ron Johnson
UT- Mike Lee

4 LOST - 40% of Tea Party candidates lost
DE- Christine O’Donnell
NV- Sharron Angle
WV- John Raese
CO- Ken Buck

1 UNDECIDED

AK- Joe Miller

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HOUSE - 130 TOTAL

40 WON - 31% of Tea Party candidates won
AR-1 Rick Crawford
AR-2 Tim Griffin
AZ-1 Paul Gosar
AZ-5 David Schweikert
FL-2 Steve Southerland
FL-22 Allen West
FL-24 Sandra Adams
GA-9 Tom Graves
ID-1 Raul Labrador
IL-10 Robert Dold
IL-11 Adam Kinzinger
IL-14 Randy Hultgren
IL-17 Bobby Schilling
IN-3 Marlin Stutzman
IN-9 Todd Young
LA-3 Jeff Landry
MI-1 Dan Benishek
MI-3 Justin Amash
MI-7 Tim Walberg
MN-6 Michelle Bachmann
MO-4 Vicky Hartzler
NC-2 Renee Ellmers
NH-1 Frank Guinta
NV-3 Joe Heck
NY-13 Michael Grimm
NY-20 Christopher Gibson
OH-1 Steve Chabot
OH-6 Bill Johnson
OH-15 Steven Stivers
OH-16 Jim Renacci
SC-1 Tim Scott
SC-3 Jeff Duncan
SC-4 Trey Gowdy
SC-5 Mick Mulvaney
TN-4 Scott DesJarlais
TX-17 Bill Flores
VA-9 H. Morgan Griffith
WI-7 Sean Duffy
WI-8 Reid Ribble
WV-1 David McKinley

82 LOST - 63% of Tea Party candidates lost
AR-4 Beth Anne Rankin
AZ-4 Janet Contreras
CA-5 Paul A. Smith
CA-6 Jim Judd
CA-7 Rick Tubbs
CA-8 John Dennis
CA-9 Gerald Hashimoto
CA-10 Gary Clift
CA-16 Daniel Sahagun
CA-18 Michael Berryhill
CA-23 Tom Watson
CA-27 Mark Reed
CA-29 John Colbert
CA-30 Charles Wilkerson
CA-37 Star Parker
CA-43 Scott Folkens
CA-47 Van Tran
CA-51 Nick Popaditch
CT-3 Jerry Labriola
DE-1 Glen Urquhart
FL-3 Michael Yost
GA-4 Lisbeth "Liz" Carter
GA-5 Fenn Little
HI-1Charles Djou
HI-2 John Willoughby
IL-5 David Ratowitz
IL-9 Joel Pollak
IL-12 Teri Newman
IN-1 Mark Leyva
IN-2 Jackie Walorski
KY-3 Todd Lally
MA-1 Bill Gunn
MA-2 Tom Wesley
MA-3 Marty Lamb
MA-4 Sean Bielat
MA-7 Gerry Dembrowski
MA-10 Jeff Perry
MD-4 Robert Broadus
MD-5 Charles Lollar
ME-2 Jason Levesque
MI-9 Rocky Raczkowski
MI-12 Don Volaric
MI-13 John Hauler
MI-15 Rob Steele
MO-3 Ed Martin
MO-5 Jacob Turk
MS-2 Bill Marcy
NC-4 William Lawson
NC-8 Harold Johnson
NC-11 Jeff Miller
NC-13 William Randall
NJ-1 Dale Glading
NJ-6 Anna Little
NJ-8 Roland Straten
NM-1 Jonathan Barela
NM-3 Tom Mullins
NY-2 John Gomez
NY-5 James Milano
NY-17 Anthony Mele
NY-21 Theodore Danz
NY-22 George Phillips
NY-27 Leonard Roberto
NY-28 Jill Rowland
OH-9 Rich Iott
OH-10 Peter Corrigan
OH-13 Tom Ganley
OH-17 Jim Graham
OR-3 Delia Lopez
OR-4 Art Robinson
PA-4 Keith Rothfus
PA-12 Tim Burns
PA-14 Melissa Haluszczak
SC-6 Jim Pratt
TN-9 Charlotte Bergmann
TX-20 Clayton Trotter
TX-25 Donna Campbell
TX-28 Bryan Underwood
TX-30 Stephen Broden
UT-2 Morgan Philpot
VA-3 Chuck Smith
VT-1 Paul Beaudry
WA-1 James Watkins

8 UNDECIDED
AZ-7 Ruth McClung
AZ-8 Jesse Kelly
CA- 11 David Harmer
IL-8 Joe Walsh
NY-25 Ann Marie Buerkle
TX-27 Blake Farenthold
VA-11 Keith Fimian
WA-2 John Koster

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That is encouraging. It means that The People want the Two Party System to find a way to meet in the middle.

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#1 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 4:36 PM EDT

32% is HUGE! For a bunch of blue collar people who had no organization until 18 months ago, this was BIG! In two more years they might be up to 50%. Maybe we should be talking about forming a third party.

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#1.1 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 6:25 PM EDT

Ross Perot won 19% his first year running for President. That too, is huge. And I don't mean that in a sarcastic sense either; 32% is pretty impressive.

But where is the "Reform Party", now? Oh yeah - non-existent. Kinda like the Tea Party will be in less than 6 years' time. And these are the same types of folks that supported him: Libertarian minded conservatives that were old, and white. Sounds like the Tea Party.

Once the economy improves, all these scared old white men will stop showing up at Tea Party rallies. They stopped showing up for the "Reform Party" too. Count on it.

  • 25 votes
#1.2 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 6:30 PM EDT

Here's How the Midterms will be Remembered in 1,000 years: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlffdZtWOKc

    #1.3 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 6:31 PM EDT

    kpokeefe

    they do have an organization it is called the GOP... they will only be up to 50% only if the impatient and fickle public and the GOP decides to keep them. Given what we have seen over the last three cycles, I would not bet on any carryover effect. They need to legislate and learn who to caucus with, if they can't do that, they will lose their GOP backing and next loose their "grassroots" backing. Too much can happen in two years.

    First big test... debt limit, will they vote to increase it, keep it the same or demand to have it lowered. I can tell you this issue alone will test the limits of GOP and their new found inherited group of TEA Party colleagues.

    • 9 votes
    #1.4 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 6:38 PM EDT

    Headline of the day:

    "Dems give new meaning to putting lipstick on a pig"

    • 21 votes
    #1.5 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 6:46 PM EDT

    That is encouraging. It means that The People want the Two Party System to find a way to meet in the middle.

    Funny, Tea Party starts coming to life and Obama's talking about people clinging to their guns and religion, because they get scared and confused. The Left calls them racist, ignorant ....everything they can think of. Recently Clinton talked about Americans not keeping up and Obama talks about Americans not being able to think clearly because they're scared and confused.

    Today, Obama comes out and basically says, there is nothing wrong with his policies, they just didn't produce the results and he is misunderstood, or we're just to frightened to realize the reality of his rectitude and brilliance - just lashed out at the those poor Democrat civil servants who have done such wonderful work, but it was not his policies. Heck, we are so scared and confused, we even forgot it was all Bush's fault, not anything Obama did.

    BTW - Is the smartest man in America that "get's it", really planning to compromise/work with such scared, ignorant people? That enemy that needs punishing, that can join him if the sit in the back?

    Yea, it is encouraging.

    MSNBC and the Left - Keep focusing on the the Tea Party and the delusion of ignorant Americans.

    It will only encourage a bigger change from "Change" in two years.

    • 16 votes
    #1.6 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 6:49 PM EDT

    It will only encourage a bigger change from "Change" in two years

    Be careful this is what Pres. Obama promised two years ago and see what happened. I am truly an independent and don't understand the win-lose thing, however I hope that these new congress men and women understand that it is lot harder and different to legislate than it is to protest and campaign against.

    I did not vote for any TEA Party backed candidate, but for all our sakes, I hope that they can do what is right for all Americans.

    • 7 votes
    #1.7 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 6:56 PM EDT

    With all due respect the author of this piece it is not in command of what 32% is for a movement that is barely 2-3 years old. Tea Party be proud. Who consulted on this piece? Perhaps a college intern who voted for Obama, now looking for a job and forgot to vote yesterday.

    • 14 votes
    #1.8 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 6:57 PM EDT

    Hey now!

    Richard, don't disparage pigs.

    As someone once said -

    I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us - Cats look down on us.

    Pigs treat us as equals. - Winston C.

    • 6 votes
    #1.9 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 6:58 PM EDT

    You silly little sore losers. A party that did not exist 2 years ago won 32% of their elections and this is somehow a bad thing? How did the independents do? How about the Libertarians? Green Party?

    You liberals just keep calling names and the grown ups will keep organize winning candidates.

    See you in 2012

    • 19 votes
    #1.10 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 7:02 PM EDT

    And people wonder why the anger at the politicians in Washington AND the bias media. When is the last time that a new movement or party get 140 candidates for national office? And the fact that any of these candidates won is unprecedented in modern times.

    What crap NBC and others will spin to get people to watch or read. If only we could vote you out too!

    • 9 votes
    #1.11 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 7:05 PM EDT

    I am a PROUD LIBERAL!!! I do not think that the Tea Party folks are racist, ignorant, or whatever. I just know the facts that 65% of the followers are uneducated, non college graduates, and majority white.... So how is that a delusion of ignorant Americans? So they can manipulate uneducated people....that is it, bottom line! Anyone that has any sense of an education would not believe in thier logic. Repealing civil rights, are you friggin' serious? What century are we in??? I do have a nice word for them though...Tea-Jadist. At least I have the courage to say what I mean, and mean what I say. As a liberal I run from no one. I wish I could say the same for the beloved all American Tea Party! what exactly do they mean about "Taking our government back?", who took it. I am pretty sure that it is still in D.C. Or do they mean take it back from a "black" president, I am just curious....

    • 22 votes
    #1.12 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 7:07 PM EDT

    Canada is looking better every day!!

    • 8 votes
    #1.13 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 7:11 PM EDT

    This article is typical of the "press leaning towards the Democrats." Where is the comparitive data? So typically one sided. Bring out the statistics of how the Democrats performed. How many ran for Congress? How many were defeated? What were the statistics for their showing this time around? Shouldn't they have perfromed better, having been around for so long? You can dress up statistics to make any point when only one side is shown.

    • 7 votes
    #1.14 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 7:19 PM EDT

    Bob:

    Good point. At the risk of insulting another animal, may I suggest "lipstick on a donkey"?

    • 5 votes
    #1.15 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 7:21 PM EDT

    Braying donkey?

    Works for me.

    • 5 votes
    #1.16 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 7:27 PM EDT

    That may be enough. If the GOP doesn't grind them under the corperate heel, that may be just enough to hamstring any fool ideas they have to change the progress we've made in the last two years. Of course, the GOP is counting on being able to threaten them into lock step. I hope they're stronger than that.

    • 1 vote
    #1.17 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 7:27 PM EDT

    While I acknowledge that a sensible third party would provide much needed change in our political system, I hardly think the Tea Party fits that bill.

    • 11 votes
    #1.18 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 7:27 PM EDT

    Erica,

    That was priceless.

    Thanks

    • 5 votes
    #1.19 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 7:31 PM EDT

    The Left calls them racist, ignorant

    The left has been the teabaggers' best friend. It falls all over itself praising the 'baggers supposed economic populism while excusing the racism and ignorance.

    • 1 vote
    #1.20 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 7:33 PM EDT

    What I find amusing about this article is the intentional defeating attitude written regarding the "Tea Party" candidates. Think about it, this was the first national election that "Tea Party" candidates participated in .

    What this article is intentionally mispresenting is the fact that 1 out of every 3 "Tea Party" candidates WON their elections. That is what 32% really means and that is what the Democrats and Pro Democrat Media IS TRYING TO PLAY DOWN.... PLAIN AND SIMPLE....

    The Tea Party closely associates with conservative GOP Platform. The GOP had better deal with their wounded pride over this and work with the "Tea Party", or they will be playing into Democrat Candidates hands in 2012. Additionally, this election is a real wake up call to Democrats and Obama in Washington. Both should read this "Tea Party" nationwide wins as the American People fed up with the new "Changes" in Washington, DC. Reading the "Tea Party" wins any other way is just denial and expect greater Democrat losses (including the White House) in 2012...

    • 6 votes
    #1.21 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 7:55 PM EDT

    Wow, just 32% of Tea Party Candidates won? I hate to take a beating like that!

    • 3 votes
    #1.22 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 8:00 PM EDT

    This author is a complete moron, and left wing hack. Lets apply her logic to the democrats. Just 42% of democrats win! Big news here. The oldest political party in America, and certainly the party with the deepest pockets, support in the white house and congress, virtually all of the media...and all they could win is 42%

    Lets harken back just a few months when Pelosi declared the tea party movement was about as much grassroots as artificial turf is to real grass, suggesting it was a republican marketing ploy.

      #1.23 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 8:00 PM EDT

      Leave it to MSNBC to report the Tea Party's lowest win rate is if was their overall rate, and then to act as though it was a bad result. These are awesome win rates for a newly formed party.

      32% was only the house

      They won 50% in the senate.

      And without doubt MSNBC counted as many losers as they possibly could as Tea Party members:

      "Identifying Tea Party candidates is undoubtedly inexact. Our criteria, generally, was to include anyone who has either been backed by a Tea Party group or has identified themselves as a member of the Tea Party movement. Toward the end of this cycle, however, seemingly every Republican was trying to associate themselves this way."

      Could it be that MSNBC is terrified of the Dems being replace by the Tea Party? surely not.

      • 12 votes
      #1.24 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 8:08 PM EDT

      Some of you who think that the Tea Party did pretty well (and I don't mean to diminish their impact, which I think was substantial), you forget that they did not run as a "Tea Party" party, they ran as Republicans by taking the primaries when voter participation is low. If there was aTea Party party running candidates, it is likely that none of them would have won. So, winning 32% as republicans is not so great. In fact, some have argued that the tea party candidates cost the republicans the senate (Castle would easily have won the Delaware seat; a more credible candidate would have beaten Reid) or an even split. The Tea Party needs to determine what it really is all about before it can have any long-term effect.

      • 9 votes
      #1.25 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 8:12 PM EDT

      32% the first time out and you mock the results? No problem keep your head stuck in the sand. Next time when it's 40% out of 3 parties fine. Dems and Repubs are dinasours and have gone deaf.

      Go ahead and keep making that 32% mad and see how things work out for ya.

      • 5 votes
      #1.26 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 9:06 PM EDT

      No, it means that democrats led by Barry and the Redistributionists had their asses handed to them by the voting public on 11/2/10.

      • 1 vote
      #1.27 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 9:21 PM EDT

      the tea party will soon make the dumocrates yesterdays news there in there final stage of melt down !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • 2 votes
      #1.28 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 9:22 PM EDT

      And this is stage on of the attempted marginalization of those candidates that won. It's really sad that we have to belittle a message that was clear yesterday. We Want Change - that We the American People Support. Oh, and we want to read it first. We want to know what is in the bill before it is passed. We want to be part of the process not just the recipeints of such action.

      • 2 votes
      #1.29 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 9:26 PM EDT

      For a first election since the Tea Party organized, this was very impressive. Just like the media to try and downplay the effort.

      • 4 votes
      #1.30 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 9:43 PM EDT

      49 + 32 = 81 winners How many seats were really up for grabs? Now that the Republicans have their very own splinter group the next election could be very interesting. If the "Blue Dog Democrats" helped bring down Obama's legislative requests; maybe after 2012 (should the Republicans win the White House) the "Red Dog Republicans" may extend the same courtesy.

      Yes folks if this keeps up, I fear the coming elections will be very interesting. Providing 12/21/12 doesn't bring the whole brick outhouse crashing down around our ears that is.

        #1.31 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 9:47 PM EDT

        Hey Pjam, and just think the Republicans could have picked up those Senate seats if the Teabaggers hadn't put up such grossly unqualified and way too extreme candidates...think about having a majority in the House AND Senate and remember whose fault that was.

        • 3 votes
        #1.32 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 9:50 PM EDT

        You gotta love these "internet journalists".

        "ONLY" 32 %" ? LOL..when was the last time that the Libertarians, Peace and Freedom, American Independent or Green party got 32% ? and they've been around a LOT longer than the Tea Party.

        • 2 votes
        #1.33 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 10:03 PM EDT

        32% and that is running against the mainstream media a sitting president and unimaginable dollars.

        Be careful not to get these folks ticked off!

        • 2 votes
        #1.34 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 10:08 PM EDT

        That is a great point! One I have been trying to make all night. My point is this, if the Tea party were to go against the establishment, meaning if they were to try and "TAKE ON" the GOP and the DEMS for real, all by there lonesome as a grassroots movement, they would have lost terribly. There is no new party, the Tea party is the republican party period!...

        • 4 votes
        #1.35 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 10:09 PM EDT

        There are people quiting their jobs where my wife works over the new health care insurance the company has. Even my doctor told me I don't have insurance because the deductable is so high I will never reach it. That's not the just of it, not only am I paying full price for my medicine I am paying extra to pay down my deductable. I hope something is done but I feel it is to late the insurance companies will never go back to the way it used to be. Remember when you could pay a copayment for services? No More, not until your deductable is met.

          #1.36 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 10:52 PM EDT

          There is absolutely nothing "new" about the Tea Party except the name. The extreme right wing has been represented by Herbert Hoover, Thomas Dewey, Barry Goldwater, J. Edgar Hoover, Strom Thurman, and many others since then. The fact that their leadership took such a beating in 2006 and 2008 required a different label.

          Some cowards trying to escape the massive failure of a disasterous Republican government started calling themselves Independants. Some became "Libertarians". Others got the bright idea of creating an entirely new party in search of a hidden identity. Voila! The Tea Party.

          I acknowledge and appreciate the true Independents and Libertarians. I believe they are legitimate parties and I can relate to some of their ideals . I also give credit to some of those longing for a new party that call themselves Tea Partiers. Still, the first two groups must realize that your ranks have been swollen by invaders, not supporters, that will soon abandon you, . My greatest sympathies lie with those true believers in this Tea Party. The most powerful leaders of your "party" will disown and abandon you as soon as the Republican party is back in full power. They are only wolves in sheep clothing.

          • 1 vote
          #1.37 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 11:38 PM EDT

          First of all, somebody is a little bit confused, including the media. There is NO tea party. There is the Grand OLD party, aka the republican party...meet the new party, no there's no 'new' party, it's the same as the OLD party. I work for the supervisor of elections and make up the ballots and there was and is NO tea party on the ballot. It's the republican party, nothing more, nothing less. The fabricated title of tea party (what's it about tea anyway?) is simply the far right wing of the Republican party, that of Strom Thurman and Jesse Helms coming back from the grave.

            #1.38 - Thu Nov 4, 2010 12:35 AM EDT

            Most Tea party candidates win in the South or Solid red states that's all. Tea party too proud call it " Big victory in Kentucky" for Ran Paul LOL. A Monkey would still win in Kentucky and other red states as long as it has "R" on its back, try to take on the Midwest, West Coast or North East and come up with a win, that will be a true big victory for tea party.

              #1.39 - Thu Nov 4, 2010 1:23 AM EDT

              They are not a party yet. They did not run as the Tea Party they ran as Republicans, they knocked republicans out of some primaries and then took all the republican backing they could get. They are a sub party at this point but not a stand alone third political party. Right now they are a wholly owned subsidiary of the republican party whether either group likes it or not they belong to each other at this point.

                #1.40 - Thu Nov 4, 2010 5:20 PM EDT

                Most Tea party candidates win in the South or Solid red states that's all.

                Marco Rubio isn't a "southerner". He's Cuban and grew up in an impoverished section of Miami. At one point he was down 35 points to Crist. The Florida Tea Party which largely consists of Latinos, South Americans and Europeans put him in office. Those demographics are far different than the one you describe. Personally, I live in Atlanta and last summer I went to one of the first Tea Party rallies in Centennial Park out of curiosity. I was shocked to see about10% of those present were black. Remember Atlanta is 60% black and 96% of blacks in Atlanta voted for Barrack Obama in 2008. If you do the math, some black folks were jumping ship on the democratic party. You haven't heard the last of this multicultural and multiracial crowd! They are sick of the status quo from both parties!

                • 1 vote
                #1.41 - Thu Nov 4, 2010 11:43 PM EDT

                Good Lord, I thought you had to be American to become a U.S. Senator. Wait til Fidel Castro finds out about this. The blacks you saw in Centennial Park were curious bystanders concerned with which ammendments to the Constitution you wanted to kill. They do have a personal stake in one of them.

                  #1.42 - Fri Nov 5, 2010 3:30 AM EDT

                  Dont count anything in, or out just yet. Political waves have hit before: dont forget the sagebrush rebellion. When these ideas are suppported by successfull legislation and not just coopted, the Tea Party will have arrived. Ross Perot had a good point, but no party. A strong third or even fourth party is needed in US politics. But ideas for a Christian Right or Rainbow Collition are longterm. So watch, wait and support...

                    #1.43 - Fri Nov 5, 2010 4:58 AM EDT

                    Good Lord, I thought you had to be American to become a U.S. Senator. Wait til Fidel Castro finds out about this. The blacks you saw in Centennial Park were curious bystanders concerned with which ammendments to the Constitution you wanted to kill. They do have a personal stake in one of them.

                    Yeah, curious bystanders holding signs, LMAO! Actually, the healthcare plan is a violation of the Constitution. Find me where the Constitution says that the federal government can make you buy anything? Remember car insurance comes into play IF you DECIDE to purchase and register a car to drive on public roads! Also, look at the method in which the legislation was passed with a "deemed pass" tactic which has in the past only been used when passing budgetary items which expire in one year. The healthcare plan was passed as a PERMANENT piece of legislation that affects 20 percent of GDP! So, don't tell me about the Tea Part infringing on yours and mine Constitutional rights! Obama and Pelosi tore up the Constitution when they told you that you, the American People, will see what's in the bill after it is passed! That is Gestapo BS! This is what got the democratic party in trouble!

                    • 1 vote
                    #1.44 - Fri Nov 5, 2010 9:08 AM EDT

                    32%, that IS significant. I read this article and it clearly seems as if the Leftist media is frantically trying to downplay the overwhelming sweep of change that took place on November 2nd. An example of how big this change was just look at the state of Alabama. The Democrats have controlled Montgomery since Reconstruction (that's nearly 136 years, and Alabama is a RED state.) They lost the state capital in Alabama to the GOP. To say that it was just 32% is just trying to minimize the true feelings of the American people and their government. It is also a clear sign that even though Obama was voted in to bring change....his idea of change may have been WAY too much for the electorate to handle, thus, the GOP gains. Heck, a clearly BLUE state like Wisconsin voted for a Republican Govenor. If the Administration doesn't aquiess or at least show that they want to come to the middle, where the majority of the country lives, he's going to find out how much unemployment sucks come 2012.

                      #1.45 - Sat Nov 6, 2010 2:19 PM EDT
                      Reply

                      They'll be like the Know Nothing Party.

                      • 5 votes
                      Reply#2 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 4:38 PM EDT

                      After last night we know who is the "Know Nothing Party". See the (D) in the list of the losers.

                      • 23 votes
                      #2.1 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 5:24 PM EDT

                      Tracy

                      You got it wrong... TEA Party activist voted them out because they thought the D were doing too much (or know too much). Remember the slogan "We want to take our country back." In current day politics, if you keep your head low and stay back in the bunker, you get voted back in time and again. When you rush the hill you get shot by the forward onslaught and at times from the rear by friendly fire. This was what you witnessed last night. This is not a referendum on the D doing nothing (we know who did nothing), some were voted back into office and will take leadership positions.

                      • 7 votes
                      #2.2 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 6:46 PM EDT

                      The bitter stew is tasty today, eh Beverly?

                      • 3 votes
                      #2.3 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 6:50 PM EDT

                      They'll be like the Know Nothing Party.

                      This is always the empty claim to fame of the left; of being so smart while their opponents are so stupid. If you guys are so smart, why couldn't you prevent the shovel ready "shellacking" your party got yesterday? I know Obama is thinking just like you right now because he's still being defiant, so it's going to take some more of the same in 2012 so you guys can figure out how smart you are.

                      • 11 votes
                      #2.4 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 7:01 PM EDT

                      Nothing new all Pres (at least in their first and sometimes in their second term) take on the chin at the midterm elections. Add to it that Pres. Obama is not a very good politician (at least not a professional one), he is more of a statesman wanting to get things done. Maybe too much and thus he paid a bigger price than some of his predecessors.

                      I am a lone independent hoping and wishing that all those new members really come to the table work for us and not just for a select few. This is not about the TEA Party anymore, as a congress man or woman you represent us all.

                      • 2 votes
                      #2.5 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 7:09 PM EDT

                      as a congress man or woman you represent us all.

                      This is an interesting comment, and I really agree, but the Democrats haven't been practicing this at all for the last four years. I can tell you that my Democrat congressman from my gerrymandered district doesn't even respond to a call or an e-mail from me because I'm so marginalized and useless to him (except for my taxes, of course). I hope you're right that some people form both sides will wake up and understand they represent more than just the people who voted for them.

                      • 3 votes
                      #2.6 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 7:29 PM EDT

                      In answer to some of the silly responses to the "Know Nothing" comment - this is simply a historical reference to a new party that came to popularity in the 1850s - learning from history is an American virtue. I hope that the readers trying to learn about the launch of the Tea Party take this opportunity to learn about our nation's history. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Know_Nothing

                      • 2 votes
                      #2.7 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 7:38 PM EDT

                      Cryptic much?

                        #2.8 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 8:13 PM EDT
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                        Actually 32% for a party that has only been around about a year and a half is pretty damn good.

                        • 21 votes
                        #3 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 4:43 PM EDT

                        32%?

                        About the same percentage as the Democrats that won last night.

                        • 16 votes
                        #3.1 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 4:55 PM EDT

                        Uh...and if 2 Teap Party candidates ran and 1 was elected it would be 50%. How does the percentage in an of itself make one pretty damn good?!?!?!

                        The TP'ers were able to ride the establishment coat tails of an otherwise inept GOP. The Tea Party isn't a new national 3rd political party, they are a fringe element of an existing party.

                        The success (said loosely) of the Tea Party in my mind speaks directly to the problem of having only a 2 party political system. I don't know how many times I've heard in post-midterm analysis about how republicans/tea party/conservatives took the 'vaugue' message to the voter vs the 'specific' message. Reality is when your the 'default' vote because they other guy can't get the vote you really have no incentive to 'prove' your worth.

                        Haven't heard one say what the tax code rates should be...haven't heard them say how big and/or small the defense budget should be...haven't seen them show how tort reform lowers premiums and keeps me and my family insured...haven't seen them produce how providing more and more and more tax breaks to corporations and the rich will somehow produce the 8 million jobs lost in the Country over the last 4 years. Why not...you frankly don't have to when the political climate is more geared towards focusing on who you don't want in office vs. who you do want in office..you just sit and wait and that is excatly what both parties continue to do every 2, 4 and 6 year election cycles.

                        To any Republican/Tea Party/Conservative backer, show me in 6 months what initiatives any of the people have proposed, completed whatever to make your lives 'better' than what is is today. My guess....it will be 1 hellofva short post.

                        • 15 votes
                        #3.2 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 5:01 PM EDT

                        I don't know anything about them Allen...

                        I just thought 32% was pretty good for a party that's only a year and a half old.

                        • 12 votes
                        #3.3 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 5:09 PM EDT

                        slimsignet,

                        I just thought 32% was pretty good for a party that's only a year and a half old.

                        Even better for a "party" that isn't actually a real/formal political party.

                        • 9 votes
                        #3.4 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 5:40 PM EDT

                        bob-1805084

                        Even better for a "party" that isn't actually a real/formal political party.

                        Exactly Bob. I was shocked how many of them got elected. I think people are vastly underestimating just how powerful a force they could become given enough time. 32% is good considering what kind of coverage they've gotton from the main stream and how long they've existed.

                        I think they're gonna continue to grow and be much bigger than people think.

                        • 8 votes
                        #3.5 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 5:47 PM EDT

                        They ran as republicans. There is no teaparty party.

                        • 10 votes
                        #3.6 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 5:53 PM EDT

                        First of all, the "Tea Party" is not a true political party so stop speaking of it as such. Rather, it is a movement within the GOP...please don't try to convince me that it is otherwise.

                        So, gee, only a third of the candidates that were formally endorsed by FreedomWorks, the Koch Brothers and "Mama Grizzly" were actually elected. A "Tea Party Tidal Wave", Senator-elect Paul? Not quite.

                        • 10 votes
                        #3.7 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 5:58 PM EDT

                        It is not fair to call the TP a new party. They are the angriest Republicans, mostly.

                        • 12 votes
                        #3.8 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 6:04 PM EDT

                        For a "party" that has only been around for a year that is VERY GOOD!!

                        • 3 votes
                        #3.9 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 6:06 PM EDT

                        First of all, the "Tea Party" is not a true political party so stop speaking of it as such

                        Make me

                        • 4 votes
                        #3.10 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 6:08 PM EDT

                        Actually most of them are the same element that the GPO sold their soul to years ago. The Christian right. Social conservatives mostly, same ideals, same ol, just identified under a different name. So really there is not much difference. They vote the same, same old, different name. Again, the more fringe elements like Angle and O'Donnell lost as expected. Nothing new, just a bunch of uninformed Americans trying to make sane choices under a barrage of lies from politicians.

                        If there was so much power in all of that, and the Palin's of the world have real influence, the fringe elements such as O'Donnell would have done better. But Palin rides the same old horse that has been in American politics for decades, the Christian right, Christian Nation folks. They are pretty much the same in numbers as the "TEA Party". It is all the same. It is all simple to see if many weren't so blinded by the charade...

                        • 11 votes
                        #3.11 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 6:18 PM EDT

                        Libertarians have been around for a long time. The "Tea Party" candidates mostly state libertarian and skewed libertarian philosophy. Some libertarian philosophy I agree with some I don't. Some of the "tea party" candidates have misunderstood some principles of libertarianism and that is why their statements are occasionally nuts and sometimes even border on anarchy.

                        We all have the potential to go overboard, that's why we have so many people who have to duke it out to make decisions.

                        The pendulum swings...

                        • 3 votes
                        #3.12 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 6:30 PM EDT

                        For a party that has been around for a short time and I'm suprised they didn't do better. Usually parties/movements like this one lose momentun as they age. Not to mention the effects of being examined in depth over time. I'll be suprised if they are a factor in 2 years

                        • 5 votes
                        #3.13 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 6:37 PM EDT

                        I thought the tea party supposidly started with Bush and TARP? So if they only started after McCain/Palin lost then it just goes to show that they are really just disgruntled Obama haters and nothing else. I knew America's first black president would cause some ignorant, white, backlash, I just didn't realize the depth of it.

                        • 7 votes
                        #3.14 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 7:18 PM EDT

                        This article is typical of the "press leaning towards the Democrats." Where is the comparitive data? So typically one sided. Bring out the statistics of how the Democrats performed. How many ran for Congress? How many were defeated? What were the statistics for their showing this time around? Shouldn't they have perfromed better, having been around for so long? You can dress up statistics to make any point when only one side is shown.

                        • 1 vote
                        #3.15 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 7:24 PM EDT

                        I would also agree that politics has many instances of parties or movements making a splash and then fading and as further support for that, I give you 2008's "Hope and Change".

                        • 1 vote
                        #3.16 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 8:17 PM EDT

                        As a TEA party believer, I am considering joining the Democratic party soon. They need fixing next, while keeping an eye on the Republicans bc they will screw up. The fight is against our oversized, too expensive, intrusive government. And, the end of the "political class" who presume to deserve to rule over the rest of us. The elitists who look down their noses at us have proved that they can't actually DO anything useful.

                        • 2 votes
                        #3.17 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 8:59 PM EDT

                        As a TEA party believer, I am considering joining the Democratic party soon. They need fixing next, while keeping an eye on the Republicans bc they will screw up. The fight is against our oversized, too expensive, intrusive government. And, the end of the "political class" who presume to deserve to rule over the rest of us. The elitists who look down their noses at us have proved that they can't actually DO anything useful.

                        Intriguing idea.

                          #3.18 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 9:29 PM EDT

                          Pee Tartly? Sounds painful

                          • 2 votes
                          #3.19 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 9:52 PM EDT

                          The ball is in your court now. The American people will expect the same miracles from your gameplay in two years that they expected from the Democrats. When you fall on your face, you can look forward to an ever bigger kick in the rear-end. Don't expect us to whine and throw tantrums like you did for the last two years. We will actually assist you in any efforts that may help the nation. Unlike your recent example, we love our country more than our political party.

                          • 1 vote
                          #3.20 - Thu Nov 4, 2010 12:00 AM EDT
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                          More good news. Most people find the TP views to be extreme. No doubt there are some regular tea party people who are just angry at both parties for a lot of reasons but the candidates they chose were far from "regular".

                          40 TP House members will keep Boehner busy; this should be interesting.

                          • 11 votes
                          Reply#4 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 4:44 PM EDT

                          Most are the same Christian Right wingers that we have seen infiltrating politics since the GOP sold out to them years ago. They are the same. They just coalesced under a different name. The outcome would not be much different as they voted how they vote always. Independents such as myself voted for the person, not the party, not the ideals, but the strength of the individual running. The place had to be shaken up, and it was something that the so called TEA party had nothing to do with. The mood of the country is what it is based on a lot of terrible decisions in the past be both party leaders.

                          • 6 votes
                          #4.1 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 6:24 PM EDT
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                          Wow, I love the MSNBC spin. No wonder you guys have such a low ratings. So what is the damaged to the Democrats? Well, if you are interested here is the list:

                          Democratic House incumbents who have been defeated

                          Rep. Bobby Bright (D-Ala.)
                          Rep. Ann Kirkpatrick (D-Ariz.)
                          Rep. Harry Mitchell (D-Ariz.)
                          Rep. Betsy Markey (D-Colo.)
                          Rep. John Salazar (D-Colo.)
                          Rep. Allen Boyd (D-Fla.)
                          Rep. Alan Grayson (D-Fla.)
                          Rep. Suzanne Kosmas (D-Fla.)
                          Rep. Ron Klein (D-Fla.)
                          Rep. Jim Marshall (D-Ga.)
                          Rep. Walt Minnick (D-Idaho)
                          Rep. Bill Foster (D-Ill.)
                          Rep. Debbie Halvorson (D-Ill.)
                          Rep. Phil Hare (D-Ill.)
                          Rep. Baron Hill (D-Ind.)
                          Rep. Frank Kratovil (D-Md.)
                          Rep. Mark Schauer (D-Mich.)
                          Rep. Jim Oberstar (D-Minn.)
                          Rep. Travis Childers (D-Miss.)
                          Rep. Gene Taylor (D-Miss.)
                          Rep. Ike Skelton (D-Mo.)
                          Rep. Dina Titus (D-Nev.)
                          Rep. Carol Shea-Porter (D-N.H.)
                          Rep. John Adler (D-N.J.)
                          Rep. Harry Teague (D-N.M.)
                          Rep. Michael Arcuri (D-N.Y.)
                          Rep. John Hall (D-N.Y.)
                          Rep. Michael McMahon (D-N.Y.)
                          Rep. Scott Murphy (D-N.Y.)
                          Rep. Bob Etheridge (D-N.C.)
                          Rep. Earl Pomeroy (D-N.D)
                          Rep. John Boccieri (D-Ohio)
                          Rep. Steve Driehaus (D-Ohio)
                          Rep. Mary Jo Kilroy (D-Ohio)
                          Rep. Zack Space (D-Ohio)
                          Rep. Charlie Wilson (D-Ohio)
                          Rep. Chris Carney (D-Pa)
                          Rep. Kathy Dahlkemper (D-Pa.)
                          Rep. Paul Kanjorski (D-Pa.)
                          Rep. Patrick Murphy (D-Pa.)
                          Rep. John Spratt (D-S.C)
                          Rep. Stephanie Herseth Sandlin (D-S.D.)
                          Rep. Lincoln Davis (D-Tenn.)
                          Rep. Chet Edwards (D-Texas)
                          Rep. Ciro Rodriguez (D-Texas)
                          Rep. Rick Boucher (D-Va.)
                          Rep. Glenn Nye (D-Va.)
                          Rep. Tom Perriello (D-Va.)
                          Rep. Steve Kagen (D-Wisc.)

                          Republican House incumbents who have been defeated

                          Rep. Charles Djou (R-Hawaii)
                          Rep. Joseph Cao (R-La.)

                          Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1110/44576.html#ixzz14FqNRPUV

                          • 10 votes
                          #5 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 4:49 PM EDT

                          Republican House incumbents who have been defeated

                          Rep. Charles Djou (R-Hawaii)
                          Rep. Joseph Cao (R-La.)

                          ___________________

                          Interesting thing about Cao. He was one, if not the only one, Republican in the House that wanted to work in a bipartisan way with Obama and Pelosi. He went out of his way to work with Obama and Pelosi and tried to compromise as much as he could and even voted for ObamaCare. His reward? Obama personally endorsed his oppenent. Obama couldn't dispatch his bipartisan friend Cao fast enough.

                          Let's hope Cao has learned the same lesson many of the newly unemployed House Democrats have learned: Never, ever trust a rat like Obama.

                          • 10 votes
                          #5.1 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 5:02 PM EDT

                          ...and of those did you want to mark which of those Reps were in Districts that went McCain and/or are traditionally Red areas to begin with? They were ripe for the picking. Your point is better served if you listed the Republican winners who beat out Dem. Reps in areas that are traditionally Blue areas.

                          By the numbers most of the 'gains' are the low hanging fruit. If the Public wanted and believed so much in Republican control they would have granted them a super majority in the House but that did not happen.

                          How about in 6 months you list all of the changes by the winners of these races that have made their respective States and/or the Nation better as a whole. Don't list how the Dems lost, list me how America has won because of this new group.

                          • 5 votes
                          #5.2 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 5:13 PM EDT

                          Um, 60 is a supermajority. So far, it is 63. Probably going to 67, when all the votes are counted.

                          You were saying?

                          • 2 votes
                          #5.3 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 5:22 PM EDT

                          How's THIS for spin, Kat- I woke up this morning, and McCain STILL isn't our president, and Palin STILL isn't the VP! And, HCR STILL got rammed down your greedy throats. All in all, a good day, indeed.

                          • 5 votes
                          #5.4 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 5:24 PM EDT

                          This just confirms what i have been saying to people for the last 16mths. Tea Party people and people like them are the dumb among the dumbest. Being fooled by the GOP thinking that they are on their side. These poor people esp in the south and some Midwestern states need to educate themselves on politics and realize that these people are for big business and have never been for the middle class nor the poor. They win on fear and racist B.S. and on misinformation to the low information voter. Lets see Florida voted in a crook who stole from medicare who took the 5th 75 times in his court case. In Indiana voted in a lobbyist who can care less about them, the same thing in Wisconsin, Illinois, Penn, Ohio, oh lets not forget Mich. These people will not see the light until this country becomes a 3rd world country. Which it is very well on its way to becoming. Teddy Roosevelt talked about this in his speech back in 1905 about regulating the corporations keeping them in their place and out of politics, making sure they do what is in the common good for the country and the American people this election was bought and payed for by corporations so they can keep everybody making $9.00 an hr. keep the poor where they belong. This is a sad day in America. United we stand divided we fall.

                          • 17 votes
                          #5.5 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 6:12 PM EDT

                          Sorry that I must have hurt your feelings Drive-by-observer. It must still hurt this morning for you since your socialist train got derailed. If it makes you feel better. The Republican took control of many state legislature and governorship which will draw the congressional line for the next ten years so say goodbye to battleground Florida and Ohio for a long time. LOL

                          • 3 votes
                          #5.6 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 6:15 PM EDT

                          Liberkat you are exactly the type of person i am talking about. So what is socialism knucklehead. what the definition man i swear you people are all talking points with no substance.

                          • 5 votes
                          #5.7 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 6:23 PM EDT

                          hahahaha USMC28, you have the b*lls to accuse someone of using talking points when your moronic post called forth racism? Get a clue bonehead. Also, I'll gladly put my education level up against yours any day since that is what you crazy liberals seems to think makes you superior to others.

                          • 4 votes
                          #5.8 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 6:32 PM EDT

                          Bring it Mark D!! since your such a smart arse but im sure you won't because what i know for a fact you conservatives are cowards. fact is yur side does use racist tactics as a way to win votes back in the 50's-60's it was against the black people this time its been used against the Muslims and Hispanics. So where is the B.S.

                          • 5 votes
                          #5.9 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 6:38 PM EDT

                          Uh, no joe, no bo, nj... what "63" supermajority are you talking about?

                          CIVICS 101: The Senate has 100 seats (2 for each state). 60 members in the Senate is a supermajority, but as of right now, the Democrats have 52 seats, the GOP/Tea Party has 46, with Alaska and Washington still outstanding. Any way you look at it, neither party has 63 seats or a supermajority. In the House, out of a total of 425 seats, Democrats are expected to have 193 House seats; Republicans, 242 seats. That means Democrats will hold 44% and Republicans 56% of the seats in the House. Again, no supermajority.

                          You were saying?

                          • 6 votes
                          #5.10 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 6:45 PM EDT

                          Allen, I don't know the whole list, but how about 18-term pork/earmark legend Jim Oberstar (D-Minn.) in the state that has produced Humphrey, Mondale, Franken, etc.?

                            #5.11 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 6:48 PM EDT

                            @ USMC28- Um... you need to read some more history. The civil rights act was passed by REPUBLICANS. It was liberals that voted against the civil rights act. Barry Goldwater marched WITH Martin Luther King, who was a republican himself. The only pro racist political party has been liberals.

                            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_Rights_Act_of_1964

                            • 2 votes
                            #5.12 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 7:05 PM EDT

                            RevolutionMan, you make me laugh with your disingenuous argument. How about the Democrats who left the party for the Republican party when the Democratic Party started to support Civil Rights? Can you say Dixiecrats? Can you say Southern Strategy? Can you say Strom Thurm? The TP will go the way of the States' Rights Democratic Party.

                            • 2 votes
                            #5.13 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 7:58 PM EDT

                            drive-by-observer

                            How's THIS for spin, Kat- I woke up this morning...

                            Obviously you haven't woken up at all.

                            • 1 vote
                            #5.14 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 8:20 PM EDT

                            liberals who call tea party supporters redneck, ignorant, stupid, uneducated, poor, under achievers..... you are the most hypocritical racists of all.

                            the majority has spoken. change has come. time for you to shut the f up and listen for a while

                              #5.15 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 8:56 PM EDT

                              I wonder if, because Sarah Palin voluntarily gave up the Governorship of Alaska, the Tea Party will list her as a Martyr?

                                #5.16 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 9:58 PM EDT

                                Not so fast 'liberal' kat...floridians took away the rights of any politicians or parties to draw up congressional districts just the other day... amendments 5 and 6 were approved by florida votes by a resounding 62 percent! Sorry to wake you up from your day dream!

                                • 1 vote
                                #5.17 - Thu Nov 4, 2010 1:00 AM EDT
                                Reply

                                Memo to MSNBC: your title should have been "Tea Party Patriots Rock the Establishment"

                                • 7 votes
                                Reply#6 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 4:55 PM EDT

                                ...and while you are busy celebrating with a victory lap and a hearty pat on your own back, just remember...

                                Tea Party candidates Sharron Angle, Ken Buck and Christine O'Donnell prevented you from winning a majority in the Senate.

                                • 1 vote
                                #6.1 - Thu Nov 4, 2010 6:48 AM EDT
                                Reply

                                Memo to MSNBC from teabaggers : "WHY CAN'T YOU JUST BE EXACTLY LIKE fox(r) ????"

                                • 3 votes
                                Reply#7 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 5:03 PM EDT

                                I guess the democrats must have won the House of Representatives, since most of the Republican candidates had Tea Party backing. Probably didn't get a chance to look at the local and state Governors races where grassroots action really is the balance of power. Oh well, when you are so bent over to the left like MSNBC you do see things so much clearer. ROFLMAO!

                                • 2 votes
                                Reply#8 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 5:13 PM EDT

                                If you are so enthralled with Fox then why don't you find a "Fox" blog to write on. Oh I forgot, they don't have one.

                                • 3 votes
                                Reply#9 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 5:16 PM EDT

                                Actually, isn't it called "The Drudge Report"?

                                • 2 votes
                                #9.1 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 6:00 PM EDT
                                Comment author avatarMike-2568422Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                                Hey JoAnus nice third grade cut down...lol get a life you moonshine swilling redneck from backwoods West Virginny...is that even a state??? Oh and Dum Noid In-case you didn't know drudge is an aggregated site do you know what that means??? Look it up or ask your redneck third grader form WV .....

                                  #9.2 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 6:49 PM EDT

                                  ...and you think WE need lessons on maturity?

                                  • 2 votes
                                  #9.3 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 9:39 PM EDT
                                  Reply

                                  But wasn't it fun to see all that money that was placed on Sharon Angle, and all that money Whittman p*ssed away go for naught?

                                  Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha- and to think, it all went into the pockets of the advertizing departments of the LIBERAL media!! Ha Ha Ha Ha.....

                                  • 6 votes
                                  Reply#10 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 5:21 PM EDT

                                  Yessir!

                                  • 1 vote
                                  #10.1 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 5:48 PM EDT

                                  Yes, it is fun to see all Whitman spent and lost of her own money. It was "fun" also to see Angle lose after many dollars found their way to her.

                                  But it's positively disheartening to see the hundreds of millions in union dues collected from hard working Americans swirl down crappers across the length and breadth of the United States.

                                  • 6 votes
                                  #10.2 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 6:40 PM EDT

                                  Rich? Do you mean not living off food stamps,welfare etc? Who in their right mind backs a party that wants to take other peoples money by threat of force and give it to someone else?

                                  Who is more greedy the millionaire collecting unemployment or someone that has babies to get more government aid? If you don't pay taxes your ass shouldnt even have the right to vote!

                                    #10.3 - Thu Nov 4, 2010 1:25 AM EDT

                                    Well said Terry!

                                    Why dont libs get a collection and fund healthcare, welfare etc out of their own pockets? Put your money where your mouth is. Its always good when you can take and spend other peoples money.

                                    I can't wait to see biz flock out of the state of CA. Tea Party winners should stand by not bailing out any blue state. You voted them in-you pay!

                                      #10.4 - Thu Nov 4, 2010 2:55 AM EDT
                                      Reply

                                      This is probably the best news to come out of last night's results—the rejection of radical Tea Party lunacy.

                                      A two-party system where compromise is the basis of government. We don't need people in D.C. who think in terms of "black and white"—both literally and figuratively, now that I mention it(!).

                                      • 2 votes
                                      Reply#11 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 5:21 PM EDT

                                      This is probably the best news to come out of last night's results—the rejection of radical Tea Party lunacy

                                      Actually FOX Hunter I don't see it completely as a rejection. Out of 140 candidates 32% or 45 of them got elected. I didn't even expect that many for two reasons:

                                      1. The incredibly negative coverage from the main stream media

                                      2. The fact that the Tea Party Movement is only about 14 or 18 months old

                                      That's actually a pretty strong showing for a first time out and having existed for such a short time. They may become a pretty powerful force in American politics given enough time.

                                      • 4 votes
                                      #11.1 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 5:42 PM EDT

                                      Provided the GOP meets their demands, sure. I can see the Tea Party continuing to be a force in American politics insofar as the movement itself is never disillusioned by the people they vest their faith in.

                                      • 1 vote
                                      #11.2 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 5:49 PM EDT

                                      Lets see, are you the kettle or the black.

                                      • 1 vote
                                      #11.3 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 6:06 PM EDT

                                      Monte-479207

                                      Lets see, are you the kettle or the black

                                      ?????

                                      • 2 votes
                                      #11.4 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 6:12 PM EDT

                                      This is the GOP's version of the Tea Party movement - so 32% of this 'faction' is actually a part of the NORMAL GOP!!

                                      Remember - the GOP STOLE the 'brand' from the 'real' Libertarians that are the Tea Party. The GOP would LIKE for you to think that this is a '3rd party', but it is not.

                                      So this whole article is flat out wrong - it should read 'Just 32% of the Tea Party FACTION within the GOP wins'.

                                      Way to go, FR, contributing to the misinformation about the GOP.

                                      • 1 vote
                                      #11.5 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 8:05 PM EDT
                                      Reply

                                      This article totally explains msnbc's low ratings. Such a democrat way of spinning. LOL Dems got their clocks cleaned big time by a groung still in infant stages. LOL WOW! Keep the villifying and demonizing coming MSNBC just like the dems did for past 4 years. What a wonderful night!

                                      • 3 votes
                                      Reply#12 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 5:41 PM EDT

                                      What spin. The list is available that confirms the story. There was nothing there except winners and losers. Nothing said about politics as far as policy. At least take the time to find an article that fits your criticism first.

                                      • 2 votes
                                      #12.1 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 6:02 PM EDT

                                      vw, perhaps RonM was referring to the title of the article: Just 32% of Tea Party candidates win.

                                      • 2 votes
                                      #12.2 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 7:00 PM EDT

                                      What spin? How gullible are you?

                                      "There was nothing there except winners and losers."

                                      You mean the list that MSNBC compiled despite not being able to identify Tea Party members? And why list the 32% win rate in the house and not the 50% win rate they had in the senate? And why not mention of the Dems win rate?

                                      It's not just what is there... it is also what is not there.


                                      • 2 votes
                                      #12.3 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 8:26 PM EDT

                                      Upset about the word "just". The story did show the rate for the senate. As for how many Dems won or lost, there are several stories covering that.

                                      • 1 vote
                                      #12.4 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 10:14 PM EDT
                                      Reply

                                      California Rebuked the Tea Bagger movement! The way Delaware rebuked that Witch! LOL

                                      • 5 votes
                                      Reply#13 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 5:46 PM EDT

                                      Yeah, California is leading the way..... To Bankruptcy, genius! LOL!

                                      Learn what principles are, you jealous little worm. Shrink the government, put people and small business back in charge.

                                      • 6 votes
                                      #13.1 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 6:09 PM EDT

                                      Did I strike a nerve RICK? LOL The way I see it the worms had a good night last night.. The Jimmy Neutron hair do's on FIxed Noise started the propaganda machine right after Mr. Obama Mopped the floor with the MUMMY.. I work for the DOD which means I see worms telling on and throwing each other under the bus every day.. And the WORMS are REPUKLICANS! Frickin Gross human beings.. Just my opinion RICK! LMAO

                                      • 1 vote
                                      #13.2 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 6:42 PM EDT

                                      If you are....., so, you're on the public dole. Get out in the real world and see if you can make it.

                                      • 1 vote
                                      #13.3 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 6:54 PM EDT

                                      RICK!

                                      How could I forget.. Our RePuklican Governor Arnold set us on the road to bankruptcy! $200 million of Meg the Pigs money couldn't seal a victory for her.. We will roll with Mr. Brown now.. And we'll bring along Mrs. Boxer too..

                                      • 1 vote
                                      #13.4 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 6:55 PM EDT

                                      Definition of the real world please ProAmerica?

                                        #13.5 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 6:58 PM EDT

                                        Rick-1280500

                                        Yeah, California is leading the way..... To Bankruptcy, genius! LOL!

                                        Learn what principles are, you jealous little worm. Shrink the government, put people and small business back in charge.

                                        If there such a refudiation (LOL!) of democratic control - why didnt they take the senate too? You over exaggerate the importance of small business in this country. Here's a hint: The US Chamber of Commerce will tell you anything you want to hear.

                                        • 3 votes
                                        #13.6 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 7:07 PM EDT

                                        worthy, Arnold has been the only thing holding that state together...watch what happens now.

                                        • 1 vote
                                        #13.7 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 7:22 PM EDT

                                        Thanx Mike..

                                          #13.8 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 7:22 PM EDT

                                          You don't live here do you Eric? So let's get this straight.. Arnold is the Governor (leader) of the state of California and it is going down the tubes but he's the only one holding it together? So what you're saying is it was someone else that put us in this predictament?

                                            #13.9 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 7:28 PM EDT

                                            Yes, CA's problem is that the state legislature has put the state in an impossible bind with its out-of-control spending (giving in to educators and others on the government payroll, among others, and I'm an educator). With income tax revenues bigger than the GDPs of most countries, if CA still needs the highest sales tax rate in the country then there are a lot of folks in the legislature not very good at math. Arnold is a moderate and to his credit did his best to make things happen, but he was mostly a lone voice. Now, say goodbye to many businesses and hello to even higher taxes.

                                            Oh, and I used to live there, but I got out when I saw the writing on the wall, which is not that different from America as a whole: either stop spending or go broke.

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                                            #13.10 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 8:24 PM EDT
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                                            Wow I consider that great. A brand-new party wins one-third of their elections. Imagine what they can do in four to six years at that rate.

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                                            Reply#14 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 6:04 PM EDT

                                            The Christian right is not a new party. They just have a new name. They vote the same, spew the same and are still active in the Republican party. No matter how you want to paint it is the the Christian right. And really they are pretty much the same. The fringers like O'Donnell lost, and the less nut cases won, in a mid term election that was destined to see the majority in the house washed away. No surprise, no TEA party, just a lot of charade, and spin...

                                            • 5 votes
                                            #14.1 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 6:57 PM EDT

                                            indy, you are mistaken if you attribute the outcome to the Christian right--I doubt those folks voted much differently than they did two years ago. The message last night was from the fiscal conservatives from all walks of life and from those who finally got fed up with the arrogance in Congress (as exemplified by reid/pelosi/obama in the passage of HCR).

                                              #14.2 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 7:10 PM EDT

                                              I agree with you. What I am saying is the Christian right is still the same and under a different name. Fiscal conservatives are the only good thing left about the republican party. But they do not make up the TEA party primarily social conservatives. Before they ruined it, it was libertarian.

                                              As far as Heath Care Reform, somebody has to do something about it. I think Obama should have had more balls about it, instead I am disappointed. Health Care is sick in this country, and the fact that we had somebody trying to do something about it was historic. Most so far have let it just hang out there and get worse. Not much to be proud of there.

                                              How can we say we are proud to be Americans and ride on the backs of the great deeds of our ancestors? Not proud of where this country is and what both parties and the disfunctional religious groups and hyperbolic idiot commentators have created. Back in the day they would be squashed like the roaches they are. Now they hide behind lies and deflection and use grade-school fear it is part of the norm. Not proud, disgusted is more like it...

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                                              #14.3 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 7:54 PM EDT
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                                              That's because they are ALL nuts

                                                Reply#15 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 6:04 PM EDT

                                                I'm going to say the same thing about the Tea Partiers that I said about President Obama 2 years ago...

                                                "Now comes the hard part...they have to govern."

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                                                Reply#16 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 6:05 PM EDT

                                                A lot of Dems have been crowing about not losing the Senate. The Senate and the Executive Branch are still Democrat.

                                                I know you can explain, and please do, how that changes the situation from "sit in the back" to "they have to govern"?

                                                • 3 votes
                                                #16.1 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 6:17 PM EDT

                                                Aren't the members of the House of Representatives supposed to provide some sort of leadership as well?

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                                                #16.2 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 9:41 PM EDT
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                                                32% =100% sanity over a socialist agenda. I'll bet SEIU,AFL-CIO, are upset!

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                                                Reply#17 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 6:09 PM EDT

                                                You are so lost. Are yo part of the Christian right too??? That is what the TEA party is. Masquerading as the original Paul libertarian vision. As they took over the GOP they did the libertarian movement. And they will fragment that too.

                                                Why did McCain sell out??? Because of the "Christian Right (which are pretty much the farthest thing from Christian there could be)" He sold out because the GOP sold out to those folks years ago to save Rome. Then He chose that idiot from Alaska, which propelled Obama into office.

                                                Then that idiot from Alaska rides the the Christian right wave, and gives them an idiot banner carrier. Unfortunately this country is made up of so many ill-informed people with 30 second attention spans. Only in America...

                                                • 6 votes
                                                #17.1 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 7:08 PM EDT

                                                Please explain what level and type of socialism is being instituted in America. And please be specific.

                                                Oh wait... you cant. You can barely spell socialism.

                                                • 2 votes
                                                #17.2 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 7:09 PM EDT

                                                Mike-416 the level is Thug Chicago style. DEAL WITH IT...... OH .....wait you can't deal with it you are too immature. BYE...NUFF SAID.

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                                                #17.3 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 7:26 PM EDT

                                                Mike,

                                                Don't waste your time on the dumb and numb. They do not have the capacity to step outside their programming and perform a simple reasonable thought. The things we teach our children they have not learned as adults. That is why the republican party preys on the "hicks" as they call them. They are easily swayed with simple propaganda which the "hicks" repeat as their own although they do not in the least understand WTF they are even saying or even what a socialist is. Same old 'fear' card used by McCarthy. It works on some very effectively. Some however do not have the capacity to reason. They are made to order for the G Becks of the world. Iran's leader is pretty much the same mentality.

                                                • 5 votes
                                                #17.4 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 7:27 PM EDT

                                                You guys are funny....ha-ha funny,.....dumb as a nail..... but funny

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                                                #17.5 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 7:33 PM EDT

                                                Glad to hear it:)

                                                  #17.6 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 7:42 PM EDT

                                                  you are glad to hear you are dumb as a nail ? go figure :)

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                                                  #17.7 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 8:54 PM EDT

                                                  Wow, its amazing that Indy says "Christian Right" like an insult, while 80% of the nation still associates themselves with christianity.

                                                  However, he is completely and utterly wrong. The Tea party is Fiscal conservatives from all walks, races, genders and social stratas who are sick and tired of EITHER party spending too much money.

                                                  Lets be honest, with the exception of his religious leanings, Bush was a social Lib. NCLB, Med part D, Amnesty? The TEA party is tired of spend spend spend.

                                                  Please have a clue what you are taLking about before you talk about it. Otherwise, you just look stupid, Indy.

                                                  "Better to keep your mouth closed and be thought a fool than to open it and remove all doubt"

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                                                  #17.8 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 11:33 PM EDT

                                                  But there is no tea party, (whatever this thing about tea is) -- they're old jesse helms, strom thurman republican zombies back from the grave with a fabricated name...nothing more.

                                                    #17.9 - Thu Nov 4, 2010 1:16 AM EDT

                                                    Now I'm confused. Repubs are supposedly "hicks" but we also have "Ifyouarenotrichwhyareyouarepublican" leaving posts? Typical libs-cant get their story straight.

                                                      #17.10 - Thu Nov 4, 2010 3:12 AM EDT

                                                      Come-on lets lightup the planet with your unflattering epitaphs of Republican right-wing TED NUGENTS (GOD LOVE'M).WE ARE THE POWER TO DEAL WITH LEFTIES >>>>>PISSSSES YA OFF DOSEN"T IT? DEAL WITH IT!!!!!!!!!!!or move to Greece, where socialists sre ruining their country,you'll be right at home.

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                                                      #17.11 - Thu Nov 4, 2010 8:10 AM EDT
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                                                      People on this site take a very narrow view of reality. Which explains a lot.

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                                                      Reply#18 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 6:12 PM EDT

                                                      Statistics like this can be really misleading when not put in perspective.

                                                      Tea Party - Senate Race: 5 Won, 5 Lost, (counting Joe Miller 6% behind as a loss), 50%

                                                      Democrats - Senate Race: Won 12, Lost 24, Undecided 1; = 32% win rate - for an established party.
                                                      So the Tea party, brand new, actually won a higher percent of the races it was in than did the Democratic party.

                                                      Congress:

                                                      Tea Party: Won 40 seats, or 31% of the races it registered candidates in. For a first time party. Pretty good.

                                                      Democrats: Won 185 seats of 435 = 43% with 11 yet to be decided, and most of those are tied or have Republicans slightly ahead. Not all, but most of the 11.

                                                      But worse, The Democrats formally held 257 seats, , now hold just 185.

                                                      So it looks like the Tea Party didn't take seats away from the republicans but the democrats, and the republicans took even more. What does that say about where the democratic party is?

                                                      The issue isn't about what percentage the Tea Party didn't win, but why was a new party able to take so many seats away from a long established party?

                                                      • 2 votes
                                                      Reply#19 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 6:21 PM EDT

                                                      Just to clarify, the "Tea Party" is only new in name. They still ran as republicans and often are using libertarian philosophy. Republicans and Libertarians are not new. If you are not familiar with libertarians, look them up, Ron Paul is a libertarian, but he is part of the Republican party. This is a bit of a generalization and certainly doesn't capture the entire breadth of candidates or their chosen talking points, but in many cases, libertarians are fundamentalist republicans, just like the "tea party" chosen.

                                                      So you can call them new, but they aren't new. It is only new that they wield more power.

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                                                      #19.1 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 6:56 PM EDT

                                                      As long as there has been libertarian philosophy and ideology - there has been a tea party. A tea party member is indiscernible from a fundamental libertarian.

                                                        #19.2 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 7:11 PM EDT

                                                        The Tea Party is a faction within the Republican party. It didn't run a single race that I know of as its own Independant party. If it had, they would have split the Republican vote and the Democrats would probably have won most of the races that they lost.

                                                        The statistic I'd like to see alongside the 32% figure is what percentage of non-Tea Party Republicans won their contests. It might give some idea if Tea Party affiliation helped, hurt or had no effect on the results.

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                                                        #19.3 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 7:32 PM EDT

                                                        Now, if the Tea Party had been a true third party, 32% would be a good showing. It would be a GREAT showing. But, the Tea Party was not a third party, the Tea Party was a subset of Republicans. These were candidates in a major party, the party that was obviously favored considering that Republicans as a whole (Tea Party included) scored a 55% victory rate on Tuesday. Comparing the two percentages, 20.8% of the GOP Senators who won on Tuesday were Tea Party endorsed, and only 16.7 of the GOP House members who won on Tuesday were Tea Party endorsed. 29.6% of Republicans running in the election were endorsed by the Tea Party, but only 9.5% of WINNING Republicans were Tea Party favorites. To look at it the other way, 67% of Republican candidates who were NOT endorsed by the Tea Party won their races.

                                                        So 32% of Tea Party candidates won, and that looks like at least a decent showing until you take into account these factors: 1) all of these candidates were Republican, and Republicans were already favored, so many or them probably won by virtue of being Republican, 2) these numbers do not take into account the number of incumbent candidates who were backed by the TP, incumbents being much more likely to win in any election, and 3) the success rate for non-TP Republicans was twice as high as that of TP Republicans, indicating that in many cases the TP affiliation actually hurt the candidates more than it helped.

                                                          #19.4 - Fri Nov 5, 2010 12:37 PM EDT
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                                                          32% is not too bad. I was worried this country was loosing it's mind. thank God we held off the lunatic fringe of the TeaParty element. some of those Senate candidates had me concerned. hopefuly people like Angle, Buck, Miller, O'Donnell & Palladino just fade into oblivion. hopefully Sarah Palin follows.

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                                                          Reply#20 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 6:22 PM EDT

                                                          Anyone can campaign for the imcumbant. It takes real power to pull someone from a no name status to be competive. Keep trying to down play the "Tea Party". Democrats will be running scared the next election.

                                                            Reply#21 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 6:22 PM EDT

                                                            Why doesn't this "genius" writer tell us what per cent of Democratic candidates won last night? That's the real story. IN 2012 the voters will throw out the rest of the trash. Starting with Obama.

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                                                            Reply#22 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 6:27 PM EDT

                                                            And in Alaska, I think Miller is all washed up. So much for Palin and the so-called tea party. Interestingly enough, this was their candidate and yet, what was he? He fed off the very system he was now condemning. He took his welfare check like all the rest when he was in dire straights. Amazing.

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                                                            Reply#23 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 6:28 PM EDT

                                                            "Just 32% of Tea Party Candidates Win."

                                                            In a 3-way race, isn't 32% pretty good? I mean, split evenly that would be 33% per party, a gain of only 1% for the newcomers to the race. I hope we don't have two years of this kind of bickering to deal with before the elections roll around again.

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                                                            Reply#24 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 6:28 PM EDT

                                                            Devildog: Of the 130 Tea Party Candidates who ran, 32% and 68% lost. That does not mean that they won 32% of a 3-way race. To put in another way, of the 37 seats up for grabs in the Senate, the Democrats won 12 (32% of 37), the Republicans won 18 (49% of 37), and the Tea Party candidates won 5 (14% of 37), with 2 (5%) yet to be determined.

                                                            In the House, of the 435 seats up for grabs, according to the latest projections the Democrats will win 193 (44% of 435), the Republicans 202 (46% of 435), and the Tea Party 40 (9% of 435).

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                                                            #24.1 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 7:40 PM EDT
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                                                            Boy it didn't take the "spin master" Liberals at MSNBC long to start their "analysis"........ Jeez, looking at even their map - it looked pretty "red" to me......................... I love sore losers............

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                                                            Reply#25 - Wed Nov 3, 2010 6:29 PM EDT
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