He should stop telling the truth at this point?

You cry and scream and stomp your feet for two years, call us every name in the book, threaten us with '2nd Amendment solutions,' and belittle us at every opportunity and we are somehow not supposed to see you as the enemy?

Get serious.

It was nice to see the Latino vote help Senator Reid get re-elected in Nevada. They worked v. hard to keep a nut like Sharron Angle out of our United States Senate.

Let me rephrase that. They worked v. hard to keep a racist like Sharron Angle out of our United States Senate.

Good for them. They heard hate and they did something about it. Unlike the teabaggers.

Are you going to stop asking for his birth certificate or question his religion? Are you going to stop watching FOX when they put on people who do?

Michael Thompson, Charlotte, NC

we are somehow not supposed to see you as the enemy?

And there you have it. The very reason for what happened last night is this attitude. If you don't want it to happen more I suggested you grow up and stop with the "everybody who disagrees with me is stupid" rhetoric.

But you won't. People who say things like that are simply not mature enough.

My guess is Obama is deaf, he can't or won't hear the shouting that resulted in the democrats getting their butts kicked in the largest change over in the House in at least 70 years.

The Answer to your Question is ... NO.. he will still be Blaming Everyone but himself...

No party has "a monopoly on wisdom," Obama says.

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Do democrats have a monopoly on stupidity because they keep pursuing the kool aid dream of communism even though time and time again it never worked, and destroyed wealth, competitiveness, jobs and freedom just like it is under new democrat initiatives passed under Obama?

Are you going to stop asking for his birth certificate or question his religion?

If that's directed at me, I never did any of those things so I don't really know what the heII you're talking about.

The election came and the election went and the dems lost big. Yet somehow it still doesn't seem to register to the dems on here why that might have been other than "everybody's stupid." This is like dealing with a bunch of three year olds.

But it is kind of humorous. lol

NBC just posted a question on air asking whether the American people thing the President just doesn't get it. (paraphrasing) No, NBC. The problem is that the President doesn't speak to the lowest common denominator and the majority of the American people just do not understand that if President Obama had not followed through with the bailout - which the Republicans started - our economy would be in much worse shape than it currently is. This administration has worked harder than most, if not all, in over 50 years. Our society is an immediate gratification society and if things do not happen in a very quick fashion, most people get frustrated and upset and think nothing is being done. It's a result of an inability to THINK.

As an aside, everyone, watch as the Constitution of the United States is trampled upon as the right wing "majority" seems to think that the Constistution allows for "majority rule," when in fact the Constitution protects the minority FROM the majority in many ways. Unfortunately, people who somehow do not adhere to what the majority believes is right or normal or adhere to the majority's religious views had best be careful because their rights won't exist.

I'm sorry... but lolwut?

You treat us like the enemy. You stomp on our heads at your rallies. You send death threats to our members of congress. You spend years belittling every principle we hold dear on the internet. And it is somehow elitist or patronizing just to take you at your actions and your words?

This has nothing to do with my attitude. This has to do with behavior that you and yours have displayed for a long, long time now.

If you don't want me to believe that you are my enemy, then the answer is simple. Don't declare yourself my enemy until you win and then expect my cooperation. Life doesn't work like that.

Just like there are for elections, there are also consequences for behavior. The last two years will not be forgotten in a night and for no other reason than you won an election. You and yours decided a long time ago that winning last night was more important than the friendship of half the people in this nation. So now live with it.

We are not friends. Your behavior has made us enemies.

Yes as soon as you admit he was born in the U.S.

Yes Chaiah, we get it. We're stupid and the libs are smart.

The problem is that the President doesn't speak to the lowest common denominator

that's nice. I wouldn't want him to have to waste his time talking to me since I'm such a moron.

It's a result of an inability to THINK.

And again, everybody is an idiot who doesn't agree with Obama. The new lib talking point for the next two years. I think you might have a hard time making that one stick without pi$$ing off more voters.

If Obama is so intelligent you'd think he would realize that this very attiude caused last night to happen.

We are not friends. Your behavior has made us enemies.

Michael. Get a grip dude. It was just an election. lol

It should be pretty obvious to everyone by now that on his school applications Obama listed himself as a Muslim citizen of Indonesia. But why all the interest? No one doubts today Obama is a US citizen and became born again into Christian Black Liberation Theology.

He wants to be like China? Is that what he said? He wants us to invest like China has done? Has he not checked the facts? China is not a democracy! If he likes China so much, he should move there.

Is it just me or does Barack seem more like a neutered puppy today than the roaring lion of yesterday?

it appears mr M Thompson, like most angry Democrats, completely forgets about the 8 years of Bush in office except when it's time to 'Blame Bush'

those days are over...it's time to compromise...or just keep doing the same ping-pong BS that got us here in the first place...

You mean like the birthers' the militia groups, the KKK, Tea Baggers who spit on Congressmen, candidate who make out racist ads about Hispanics and Tea Baggers who sent lethal power with a Nazi sign to a Hispanic Congressman's office?

Unfortunately if that's who he was talking about he didn't make himself clear. This is what he said:

'We're gonna punish our enemies, and we're gonna reward our friends who stand with us on issues that are important to us."

I don't see any mention of anyone you listed. All I see is Obama saying if I don't agree with him I'm the enemy.

Pretty clear cut.

Are you going to stop asking for his birth certificate or question his religion?

If that's directed at me, I never did any of those things so I don't really know what the heII you're talking about. -slimsignet

You assume the "enemy" comment was directed at you, even though its not clear it specifically was, and the comment was retracted. Then you claim to not know what the hell he's talking about in educating you that a term enemy might apply to someone who questions your birth or your religion I would add (an act that made Paul go bonkers by the way). Its amazing how the Repub mind works or argues - it lacks any fairness whatsoever.

Slim, there are a lot of stupid libs, too. That's why the Reps won the election. Stupidity runs across the board, unfortunately. The fact is that the bailouts were necessary. I didn't like it when the Republicans did it, either, but it was necessary. However, regulations should have been in place in order to avoid that situation from EVER occurring, but they didn't. G-d forbid we have regulations and just trust in the altruistic nature of capitalism.

There are those who are whining about taxes. How do you propose to pay off any of our debt without taxes? Who should bear the heaviest weight of taxes? Well... let me see... those who make the most, perhaps. My bet is that most people posting here are Christians (because, you know, this IS a Christian nation - stated with a strong desire to vomit) but I bet those do not apply the verse in Luke 12:48 "but the one who did not know it and committed deeds worthy of a flogging, will receive but few. From everyone who has been given much, much will be required, and to whom they entrusted much, of him they will ask the more." Or how about Luke 20:25 "and he said to them, 'Then render to Caesar that which is Caesar's, and to G-d the things that are G-d's."

I am not a Christian but think those verses are quite profound and raised my children accordingly and they both have those verses ingrained into their thoughts.

None of us want government waste. I think we can all agree on that. So, why not start with stopping the subsidies of corn and sugar? Why stop social services - which many need - just because one might not agree with them? Honestly, there are many ways to stop government waste without hurting the poor and/or needy. The middle class should not be angry about the health care bill. They should be glad it exists. What they should be angry about is our tax dollars being handed over hand over fist to major oil companies, banks that make very risky decisions, corporate farms that take sugar and corn subsidies...

Our pols, for the most part, don't really tell us the truth. They say things that rile the masses and most people fall for it. They do NOT use their brains and sit and think about the pablum being fed to them to get them to go out and vote for X person. I am a lib but I have been known to cross the line on the ballot to cast my vote, by the way/\.

J. Richter

Are you going to stop asking for his birth certificate or question his religion?

If that's directed at me, I never did any of those things so I don't really know what the heII you're talking about. -slimsignet

You assume the "enemy" comment was directed at you,

Read Obama's words dude. He said he was going to "punish enemies" who did not stand on issues important to him.

I don't stand with him on several issues. Ergo, logic dictates I must have been one of the people he was talking about.

enemy might apply to someone who questions your birth or your religion

Again, that's not what he said. Read the quote dude. Obama's a very articulate person. I highly doubt he was having trouble clearly communicating who and what he meant.

You can feel I lack fairness. I feel your argument lacks logic.

I don't know about the main liberal crowd, but while I voted Republican from my first vote, until this last cycle, I am really put off at being called a marxist because I want insurance companies to be denied the ability to refuse coverage to children. For any reason.

So, if there are enemies, the Tea Party has created them. The lying shouts of Death Panels that cost my parents counseling on wills and inheritance tax issues. That pisses me off, and yes, I feel animosity against the hate word screaming fanatics.

Want my vote back? Present real options, and real choices. Stop screaming Socialist at every turn.

Chaiah

Good post. It's really not so hard to commucate intelligently with each other but the whole eletist "if you don't agree with me you're stupid" attitude will not work for either side. And in fact will backfire hard on which ever party tries to use such rhetoric.

I disagree with some of what you said. That doesn't make me anything except someone with a difference of opinion.

We can all get along. But BOTH sides have to agree to it. Not just one. It's like Michael above. I can say "I don't agree with that." But if the response is "then you're my enemy" why even try?

Well, Dennis, maybe you should blame the Democrats who hastily scribbled that provision out of the bill - instread of actually addressing it and explaining what it meant.

They looked guilty of something doing that, and it just gave fuel to the fire of the ridiculous "death panel" bullcrap.

So, if there are enemies, the Tea Party has created them

There are no "enemies." At least not in the context Obama used. The President of the United States should never, ever refer to American citizens (some of which I'm sure even voted for him) as "enemies" simply for disagreeing with his policies. It's staggering to me that he would do such a thing and that fellow citizens on here would actually defend it.

That will only end badly and make the president and his office look shallow and petty.

Obama isn't that bright, it was more like 63%

I have to ask where are all my peeps at? Fiesty,Disabled Vet and all the Liberals havent posted at all today on this conservative first read blog LOL!!!! We told you we would be on here November 3rd wanting your responses and just like I thought you were too mad to talk to us Angry Bible thumping Gun clinging Teabagger Uneducated Mass Neanderthal 20th century Enemies of the state... Come on now I want to see how you are going to spin this one...Im waiting

slimsignet

You mean like the birthers' the militia groups, the KKK, Tea Baggers who spit on Congressmen, candidate who make out racist ads about Hispanics and Tea Baggers who sent lethal power with a Nazi sign to a Hispanic Congressman's office?

Unfortunately if that's who he was talking about he didn't make himself clear. This is what he said:

'We're gonna punish our enemies, and we're gonna reward our friends who stand with us on issues that are important to us."

Nice how you rewrote his quote there slimfishnet. Heres his actual quote, show me where he named Republicans. Paranoid with a persecution complex is no way to go through life son.

"If Latinos sit out the election instead of, 'we're going to punish our enemies and we're going to reward our friends who stand with us on issues that are important to us' -- if they don't see that kind of upsurge in voting in this election, then I think it's going to be harder," Obama had said.

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Sorry Frank. That changes nothing. Here's the full quote :

"If Latinos sit out the election instead of saying, 'We're gonna punish our enemies, and we're gonna reward our friends who stand with us on issues that are important to us' -- if they don't see that kind of upsurge in voting in this election -- then I think it's going to be harder. And that's why I think it's so important that people focus on voting on November 2nd."

Do you see it. He said "If Latinos sit out the election INSTEAD OF SAYING "We're gonna punish our enemies who don't stand with us on issues that are inportant to us..."

i.e. "Don't sit out the election. Instead, punish our enemies who don't stand with us."

Adding that half a sentence changes nothing.

Nice try for deflection but...

Well, Dennis, maybe you should blame the Democrats who hastily scribbled that provision out of the bill - instread of actually addressing it and explaining what it meant.

They looked guilty of something doing that, and it just gave fuel to the fire of the ridiculous "death panel" bullcrap.

You are right, and I do! I really wish we had some stronger leadership working in our favor on this stuff. If Reagan had been behind HCR he would have given a speach that would have left us in tears and never wanting to lose it.

Slim,

While we disagree fundamentally, most likely, about most thing, I can emphatically say that most of the people in my area voted based upon the pablum fed to them by the media and watching the idiotic political advertisements placed by candidates. Political advertisements are amazingly shameful and disgusting. Why anyone would vote based upon what the major news networks present with their pundits and the disgustingly misleading pol advertisements is just plain old ignorant. That's my opinion and it is based in fact. How many people do you know who actually FOLLOW what is occurring and what pork is in each new bill? How many people even follow what votes their representatives and senators cast? Not many. Hence, people are stupid. They want things to change but take no real responsibility in making certain that the crap fed to them is, indeed, the truth. That's why politicians cater to the emotive instead of the intellectual aspect of the voter because they know that people to NOT want to think. G-d forbid. <sigh>

How many people even follow what votes their representatives and senators cast? Not many. Hence, people are stupid

I would say that may make them politically "ignorant'" and a bit lazy but not necessarily "stupid." That's a very strong term to refer to someone with. And remember that "ignorance" goes both ways. A friend of mine who is a liberal, Obama supporter, with a Ph.D no less actually told me the other day about how Bush passed the Stimulus bill. ?????

He's not stupid. Just terribly misinformed.

Granted The electorate is terribly misinformed, but you have to remember a lot of people lead busy lives. They get what information they can from news and ads and friends and have to judge based on that. Plus I could be the most informed voter in the country and still disagree with Obama. My disagreement with his policies does not make me stupid. If simply means I have reasons why I don't agree with the policy or law.

I can understand how President Obama perceives the Republican party as the "enemy". From the time the campaigning began a couple years ago, leading up to the election, nothing but lies and innuendo were spread by those opposing his election. I see the same thing happening now within many of these comments about what took place during yesterdays elections. The Republicans have done absolutely nothing to help forward progress and legislation in the past two years, thus the moniker... the party of NO.

I hear a lot of talk about the state of the national debt, the economy, high unemployment, and the list goes on and on. Our President inherited these problems from the previous administration, and made the effort to mitigate the harm the issues he faced upon walking in the door, and did what he and his advisers thought best. Well, according to what most economists say, if he had not done what he did, with the bailouts and so on, believe it or not, things would have been much worse. Instead of the Great Recession, we could conceivably be facing a full blown Depression. While he pulled us back from the brink of the abyss, the economy has not responded as vigorously as most had hoped. Lack of the return of jobs, and the housing crisis we now face are at the root of the current problems. A solution is still being looked for.

I also hear a lot of noise about the legacy we will leave our kids and possibly grand kids, in terms of national debt, and lifestyle we all expect to improve with each generation. Republicans, who are adverse to any spending, voice this comment the most, or so it seems. Well, allow me to bring another legacy that is not an "if" but a fact, and this legacy was left by none other than King George II and his sidekick, Big Dick. That is the two wars they got us into as the aggressors, not joining into a good fight that our allies needed help with. Kids that, at the time of the invasions were around 8 to 10 years old, have already realized this legacy. Every brave soldier that has gone to battle in these wars has realized this legacy. What pains me the most, are those who inherited this legacy and have come home, injured, maimed, with lost limbs, and sadly, in body bags. THIS is the legacy those very Republicans that backed Georgie and Dicky, and harass the President about financial legacy, have left for our Sons and Daughters. I cannot help but wonder if King George II and Big Dick Cheney are able to sleep at night, given this legacy they have left for the mere children that inherited these wars and had to go fight. Personally, I would be ashamed if I were them...

All this being said, I do hope both parties can come together and find common ground to help solve our current problems. We need to realize we are FIRST and FOREMOST Americans... our party affiliations are much further down the list.

The US vs. THEM attitude in DC needs to stop....Voters have voiced their opinion by the choices they've made last evening...With the Congress now balanced, hopefully we can now get beyond this ideological stalemate between parties...but I'm an optimist

All this being said, I do hope both parties can come together and find common ground to help solve our current problems. We need to realize we are FIRST and FOREMOST Americans... our party affiliations are much further down the list.

While I do hope that is the case, I am concerned about the candidates who made a point of saying that making sure Obama was a one term president will do anything they can to achieve that goal, even if it wrecks our country so they can blame him.

It's lightning where I am so I have to go.

Good conversation Chaiah! Remember, although someone may disagree with your politics, they still might be a pretty decent and smart person after all.

Later.

We can all get along. But BOTH sides have to agree to it. Not just one. It's like Michael above. I can say "I don't agree with that." But if the response is "then you're my enemy" why even try?

Except the 'then you're my enemy' has absolutely nothing to do with your 'I don't agree with that.' It has everything to do with the way that your side has constantly behaved for the last two years.

If your side stomps someone in the head, don't be surprised if the friends of the person you stomped in the head don't regard you in a good light after it happens, especially if you subsequently tell people that the person you stomped in the head owes you the apology.

If you go to rallies with with emblems hanging the president in effigy and with pictures of him looking like The Joker and in blackface or strapping heat to demonstrate that you have it, you might want to expect that the people who you vilify during those rallies might take the rhetoric seriously and believe that you were telling the truth when all of that was going on.

When you start your revolutionary movement a full 11 days after the president is inaugurated and before any policies have even started to be discussed, let alone be enacted, you might want to understand that there are some people on the other side who are perceptive enough to understand that this isn't about policy. It's about defeating the opponent.

And when you spend a decade and a half on the internet using the most caustic and least civil language possible talking about the left, you might want to expect that after 15 years, the people you have been talking about might believe all of that a little bit more than a self-serving 'hey, let's all be friends now' spoken at a moment when the Democrats caving to 'cooperation' suits your needs.

Get real.

After all of it, I am just not particularly interested in what you want. I called this shift to 'it's time for reconciliation' about two or three months ago on these very boards and, lo and behold, the day after the election?

Look at this. 'It's time for us to let bygones be bygones and let the Republicans have their way.'

-gasp-

Whoduthunkit?

Slim, Bush did pass the stimulus plan and the Republican Congress okay'd it. The Obama Administration continued on with some parts of it. The agreement to fund the bailouts occurred during the Bush Administration, though. Now, there have been other "stimulus" packages agreed to in the Obama Administration, but the initialization was most certainly under Bush.

Oh, and as I said before (in different words, perhaps) - stupidity knows no bounds. Imnsho, ANYONE who is so lazy as to not do their homework prior to casting a vote is STUPID. Harsh, perhaps. It is the truth, nonetheless.

Even after winning last night theright wing nitwits cannot demonstate a shred of class & continue to COLLAPSE THOSE WHO DISAGREE WITH YOUR WARPED POSITIONS...

What a bunch of REAL AMERICANS... *insert snark*

I thought the President stuck a generally positive, conciliatory tone in his news conference remarks today. However, watch out for the Jim DeMint - Newt Gingrich crowd in the next weeks. If they behave as they did in 1994, we will soon learn just what's going to happen in the Congress. I believe the hard-line Tea Party members of Congress are unlikely to want to give an inch on anything - and that they will use the claim of "RINO" to attempt to intimidate the Establishment Republicans.

The President made clear that also, things aren't going to go back to the way they were during the Reagan - Bush years. Yet that's the objective of the Republican Right - and you can read it in many of the posts above, too. The drive to not only go back to those years, and to complete the dismantling of the remains of the institutions and programs surviving from the Frankline Delano Roosevelt Administration, is the basic ideology of the Tea Party members and they voiced their most extreme version through Rand Paul last night. That is not going to be successful.

Thus it is probably even more important for President Obama to become more directly involved in not simply setting policy objectives for Congress to then fulfill in detail - the style he has followed since taking office - but sending comprehensive bills to the Hill for any of his initiatives. He needs to face down the extremists as well, rather than allowing them to set the agenda and control the dialogue. And he should hold many, many more news conferences.

If the more moderate Republicans and the Democrats are able to reach agreements on action, all the better. Bill Clinton may have some helpful advice on those methods, he used them to good effect after 1994.

Well said CTDAD. I know this is a liberal site, but seriously- even if today - EVERY republican/conservative started acting civily - there would still be liberals calling names, acting like children and being idiots. Thats a vice versa statement too by the way.

The funny thing is, ive seen some of these same people who are acting like spoiled children in regards to winning/losing the election say things along the lines of forgive and forget and move foward when it comes to Israel & Palestine. Is this any different? At some point one side or the other has to not retaliate and be the bigger person. Apparently though its all talk- as many here cant take their own medicine.

It may be that the wound is still raw if your a lib that got trounced, it may be that your gloating after 2 years of "We won deal with it". Either way- that kind of crap needs to get left behind. Be the bigger person. When some nitwit makes a statement like "Teaparty baby, we won- suck it" or "racist, bigot hate monger" simply ignore that person, they clearly arent here for any productive dialog. They are here to argue and incite.

There will always be idiots on both sides of the isle, and plenty in between. Now that the elections are over - there is no more 1 party rule - people have to work together, if not- you reap what you sow. But we are all Americans- while we may feel that different things will help/hurt the nation - at the end of the day we are all in the same boat. Grow up, and be a bigger person. Im not saying you have to agree with the 'other side' but they are NOT your enemy.

Its amazing that people don't seem to recognize that there was debt, and deficit spending, and market bubbles, and war, and unemployment, government handouts, and all the rest prior to Bush or Clinton or Reagan.

Obama has nothing new to handle, this recession was a long time in the making. It goes back to before even Reagan, who used Keynesian economics to drag us out of the 70's recession in the form of military spending. Bush used it again. This time Obama is building bridges instead of guns, at the same bloated and inefficient manner as all the rest.

Problem is that you can't use Keynes' ideas when you are running a debt 100% of the GDP and have a over $60 trillion in unfunded liabilities looming on the horizon.

So if the new GOP powers that be think that we will stand by and watch them spend us into further oblivion the Dems will have the house back sooner than they think.

We have to vote on raising the debt to $14 Trillion next year, lets see how principled those Tea Bag Conservatives really are. My bet is they fold just like every one of the people they replaced.

My centrist Republican friends were called every vile name in the book by Tea Party members and GOP conservatives, for admitting they liked the idea proposed by the President and the Democrats to make it illegal for insurance companies to reject people based on pre-existing medical conditions. Needless to say, they now consider the Tea Party and their Religious Right buddies, worse that the communists for morphing the venerable Party of Lincoln into something they no longer recognize..

And according to what a few medical doctors were telling me, they noticed an accelerating and disturbing trend occurring from 2006 to early 2010, that the insurance industry's list of things that they can reject claimants or patients for, was getting pretty lengthy to the point of almost absurd. It wasn't making their practice any easier when insurance companies refused to cover the doctor's patients. That 'pre-existing conditions' and coverage for children under Medicare is part of the whole package of "Obamacare" items the Tea Party wants to see eliminated, tells me that your family's insurance coverage is going to get a lot more expensive, and the deductibles raised ever higher after they get into power in the House of Representatives.

Why? The right-wing have already said if they won any majority in the House, that even though they don't have the power of the President's veto or the complete support of the Senate, they would still vote to drastically reduce the budgeting going to any and all departments and programs not specified in the U.S. Constitution, especially any that involved regulatory oversight of insurance companies or matters of public health.

Also, conservatives hold the majority in both the House and the Senate regardless of their political party affiliation. So if you think that private medical insurance plans to cover you and your family are expensive now, just wait and see what happens after our divided Congress goes into gridlock with itself and the White House. The President will likely veto attempts by ideology-driven conservatives that want to completely repeal the Health Care Reform Act, that in part, denies insurance companies the rejection of claimants with pre-existing conditions. Some conservatives in Congress have already said if the Present vetoes, they will threaten to immediately (or preemptively) retaliate by reducing the budgets going to all the safety nets, like the V.A., Medicare, Social Security, etc.

Plus, the far-right's already lined up to support Newt Gingritch's proposal to shut down the government again as an implied part of his, "Contract From America," just as he did in the mid-90's -- and if you recall, that caused the monthly checks to stop rolling in for people collecting Social Security, all over the nation. So many people were angered by this shutdown. This resulted in Gingritch being booted out of power by his own party. Had the Senate been taken over by a Republican Tea Party majority, this repackaged 90's option of Gingritch would become a reality again in 2011. But of course, even though history proves that shutting down the government is a bad idea because the party that engineers it will suffer a blowback by the public for doing so, the Tea Party's not beyond repeating the same mistakes of history, because they're blinded by their patriotic zeal to undo everything, in their constitutionally-imagined quest for pro-business, "states rights secessionism," and Ayn Rand unfettered anarchy, with no consumer protection agency oversight, and no regulatory controls over Wall Street or the big banks that support them.

Regardless, all of you military veterans, retirees, labor and the handicapped... prepare to take a big hit against your pocketbooks as the conservatives in both parties, dominate Congress and reduce the budgets on anything and everything they consider, "socialism." And of course, the Tea Party will continue to blame all the Democrats, blame all the Republican Centrists and label them as Marxist RINO traitors to the Party of Palin's ideologies, and blame President Obama for the very programs the right-wing supported in the Bush Era.

Chiah - You're misinformed.

Bush did A stimulus bill, long before the election. The total price tag was $152 billion, and it consisted of rebate checks to most Americans and tax cuts for business.

http://articles.cnn.com/2008-02-13/politics/bush.stimulus_1_rebate-checks-economic-stimulus-act-stimulus-bill?_s=PM:POLITICS

Bush signed TARP, which passed prior to the election with bi-partisan support - including POTUS's vote. The total allocation was $700 billion, with half released immediately and the other half held in abeyance for the new POTUS to use - whoever that might have happened to be, since the election hadn't happened yet. Bush also began the bailouts of GM and Chrysler, after the election but prior to POTUS being sworn in. Here is a link to the final Senate vote, as well as a link coverage of Bush beginning the auto bailouts.

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=110&session=2&vote=00212

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/20/business/20auto.html

The ACTUAL - $767 billion, called the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act - stimulus bill was begun by Congressional Democrats after the election, but was not passed until after the inauguration. Bush had absolutely nothing to do with, and was long gone before it was signed into law. It was passed the 60-vote supermajority the Democrats held at the time, without a single Republican vote.

http://dpc.senate.gov/dpcdoc.cfm?doc_name=fs-111-1-36

Honestly, I don't mean to be snarky here, but it's REALLY difficult to take some of you seriously when you clearly don't understand what you're talking about.

I think it is all a pipe dream. Lets recall; "I won get over it", "Vote to punish our enemys (white Republicans)", "you can come along for the ride, but have to set in the back of the car", etc. etc... Its going to be hard for anyone to work with Obama.

Pragmatic,

Franken wasn't sworn in until July. No HOUSE Republicans voted for it; but Specter, Snowe and Collins crossed the aisle and voted for ARRA.

Can't argue with anything else you stated, just filling in some color around the edges.

Back when I leaned conservative, I noted that when Democrats are out of power, they sound a lot like whining babies. Now that I am leaning a little to the left, I have seen that when Republicans are out of power, they sound like hateful selfish jerks.

Frankly, neither side appeals to me all that much. All I really care about is HCR. I like enough of it, and can stomach the mandate. I won't vote for a repeal.

Of course the tone won't improve - I think that has been proven for the last two years, when the President tried, time and again, to reach across the aisle and get the republicans to join in the national conversation, and the reps would just stick their fingers in their ears, yelling "No! I can't hear you! Wait 'till 2012! You're a muslofascistcommiepinkofaggotasslovingnoncitizen! Go away!" It would be nice if the tone could change, but with the republicans in control of the house, that's just not going to happen. I hate to say it, but the Democrats need to be just as hard-headed and stubborn as the reps have been for the last two years, and the President need to learn a new word - veto. Don't let the anti-american, corporation-sponsored, teabagging party of NO take us backwards.

It is not career enhancing to cooperate or help those at the helm to succeed. Why on earth would any politician that seeks promotion at the ballot box do this after the past two years, beats me.

Isaacsdad your attitude is exactly what is wrong with this country. Had President Obama listenend and included the 'other half' of the country instead of bull dozing his 'half' of his ideals on all of America, then things wouldn't be as bad as they are now. The LEADERS of the democratic party were the ones calling names, declaring 1/2 of America as the enemy and completly leaving the Republican or idependent ideas out of ALL legislation because (in their words) "They won, get over it"....No President Obama is quietly saying he hopes everyone will be more civil and get along, be more cooperative. Well why in the hell didn't he think that was necessary 2 years ago??? How about 4 years ago when he was a congressman? The best thing he can do is practice what you preach...>I knew when the Republicans and independents let thier voices be heard in this elections, that the next mantra would be, Well fine, You did it to me , now I'm going to make your life miserable.....Very mature and responsible. This power struggle at the top of the political ladder needs to stop....It's destroying our country....The Democrats need to thank their lucky stars the Republicans and Independents don't have the elitist attitude they do....they WILL work with the president and the Democrats in Congress.....progress would have been made in the past 2 years if their selfish power grab had not been leading the whole show.......

millerz ... you are out of your mind and making up your own history there. It was the Republicans that refused to be inclusive and open minded, especially during the healthcare debate. Not only did they refuse to participate in the public discussion and present any meaningful dialogue and\or alternative options, but they also VERY PUBLICLY incited insurrection, threatened violence towards democrats, spat upon them, and heckled and cursed at them and as they entered chambers to vote on the legislation.

And Democrats... elitist?!!? Really?!!? You have clearly shown your ignorance of the facts AND very recent history (political events of the last year) with that entire portion of your statement in particular.

Some peoples recall of actual events is unreal!!

Frankly, I strongly recommend that all you partisan followers of politics take some time and research the history of the first true republic, ROME, and see exactly what happened to cause it's collapse. There are some striking similarities between what happened to them and what is happening in our own republic right now. I fear it won't long before history tells the story of the second republic that fell into ruin.

Actually your both wrong. Both sides acted like children. The dems pulled the old "we won, deal with it - we dont need you" heck, the President didnt bother talking to the senate minority leader for 18 months. And the republicans pulled "Fine you dont need us, we wont help with anything".

That is part of the problem with the 1 party rule. That party gets a big head and the other party has a pity party. If the two sides cant grow up and move foward now that there is more of a level playing field, then we have SERIOUS issues. But to say one party tried and the other party refused and thats that is in outright refusal to see the whole picture because your purposfully blinding yourself with partizanship.

Isaacsdad

Reach across the Isle? You mean when Obama closed the doors on the Republican, on day one and said" I won get over it", and proceeded to spout that thing were going to be done "this way or that" and if you do not do as I say, you are an obstructionist. I get it. If you follow along with Obama and do everything he says, you are working with him. If you disagree and suggest what your constituants want, you are an obstructionist. I get it now.

LogiBear-2194697

Who cares what Obama has to say...the people have spoken!

Correction: the multi and global, corporations, billionaires, and wealthty individuals spoke; and you didn't even get it.

Yes.. and the American People Rejected those Unions and Business's that Supported the liberal Democrats.. As it should have been..

You're wrong. It was the idiots that spoke. The same kind of idiots that spoke in 1933 when the Nazi Party came into power.

Logi - no, the people spoke. Individuals who have their own opinions. Sorry they are not yours, but people spoke.

mcrk - your lack of comprehension on this subject is precisely why the Democratic party and Obama were so strongly rebuked yesterday. Obama is saying what he continues to say 'I'm willing to compromise, I'm willing to work together' and what he means is - if you do it my way, then we can work together. I can't believe he is trying to spew the same lies even after the election.

The Libs are in for a surprise this time. The Republican party is not going to move to the center - and you can call that the part of no or gridlock or obstructionism. When it suits you, you don't care, when it gets in your way, you see it as a problem. Time and time again the Conservatives moved to the center in an attempt to work together - and every time they did, the Dems took and gave little to nothing in return. Hard to believe that Clinton was actually one of the more reasonable Dems out there.

Keep believing what you believe, keep ignoring the voices, keep pretending that you can explain away your dismay by saying corporations voted yesterday, and not people, or idiots voted yesterday - The message is clear - we're done listening to that BS - and the more it spews, the stronger the movement to restore our nation to constitutional principals will become.

Who cares what Obama has to say...the people have spoken!

Well, there ya go! That's constructive.

The right has demonized the left as nothing more than socialist, communist, fascist, lazy, good-for-nothing leeches who need to be put out with the trash. Don't go making others your enemy and then criticize them for seeing you as the enemy. You made it so; live with it now. Nobody has taken the high road; get over yourselves and start fixing what you so thoroughly broke.

Jack, you have described the dem's of today precisely as what they are for the most part. America did not believe your bs, and showed it yesterday. What part of "lose" do you not get?

The right has demonized the left? Pray tell, perhaps we could learn proper political etiquette from the left:

Rep. Timothy Horrigan (D) of Durham, NH wrote that a "dead Palin wd be even more dangerous than a live one" and she "is all about her myth & if she was dead she cdn't commit any more gaffes." State Rep. candidate Keith Halloran also of NH responded to the plane crash in Alaska that killed former Senator Ted Stevens by saying, "Just wish Sarah and Levy were on board."

Rep Alan Grayson (the piece of crap who lost yesterday) from Florida used some charts to depict his interpretation of the Republican health care reform plan. Printed on three posters, the highlights of the plan were:

1.Don't get sick
2.And if you do get sick…
3.Die quickly

This guy also famously called a top adviser to Ben Bernanke a "whore" and referred to the U.S. healthcare system as a "holocaust in America" a depiction that did not please the Anti-Defamation League.

On this board recently, drive-by-observer suggested I stick my head into a bucket three times and pull it out twice. Quite the cuddly leftist teddy bear, eh?

And how quickly some folks forget how the enlightened, cerebral left chose to express their displeasure with President Bush:

http://www.zombietime.com/zomblog/?p=612

So spare me the sanctimonious croccodile tears about the ill-advised behavior of some on the right. Vile leftist idiots in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

So the left demonizing the right means the right doesn't demonize the left? Or are you implying that it's OK because the other guy does it? If you want to be a leader and be considered better than the other party then you actually have to be better. Party members who say wacky things embarrass themselves and their party and it's not an excuse to say the other guy did it.

I elect an adult to represent me and expect them to act accordingly. If you are OK with juvenile excuses like you gave then you deserve the grade school mentality of the current Congress.

How about both sides did and are acting like children and need to grow up.

And to those who are blathering about 'buying a vote' who did BP, or Fox or NBC vote for? Noneone, people cast votes. If people are disenchanted with the process and didnt vote because they felt like it didnt matter - that is on them, NOONE else. People that were swayed and voted based on commericals- thats their right as well. People that went in and voted strickly party lines- thats their choice. So the whole "the election was bought" is BS. Some people voted, more didnt. If the people that didnt were so upset they should have voted. The corps can donate money, yes, but the people are the ones that vote and fill in those little bubbles (at least in OH you fill in a bubble).

I'm good with that, BoBo. I'm sick to death of the abuse people like Dasvet and Bill pour into every damn post they make. I'm an intelligent human being who refrains from denigrating people just because they don't think like me. This incivility is pathetic. It's high time people started acting like mature adults.

I'm not a socialist. Never have been. I was a Reagan Republican who served in Intelligence and has contributed hundreds of thousands in income tax over the years without a hint of complaint - even when it went to wars I didn't support. I'm productive; I built an amazing career against all odds, which I used to think was the American way. I have carried my weight and acted according to my conscience to better my society the best way I know how. To receive the mindless abuse of people too ignorant to understand they're dealing with other human beings here has made me sick to my stomach and thoroughly discouraged with a system I used to love. I'm socialist? I'm a communist? I'm trash? Not one of you would say that to my face, and you know it.

It's easy to demonize people who don't think like you. It takes intelligence and depth of character to treat them the way you believe you should be treated.

Beverly

Where have you been the last 4 years. Demos have far out spent the Republican in all elections. And what about B.P. and all the money they gave to Obama? Or how about all the unions dumping millions of dollars on these races? Are you sure you read the news, or just make it up the way you want it. Need I mention Soros???? Now how many billions did he benefit from when Obama gave Brazil billions to drill offshore. And low and behold, Soros hedged that business for billions. And again, how many millions did Soros dump on Obama through unregistered 200 buck donations? Someone needs to start reading history and quit making it up.

Jack, I agree with you but I will remind you - having gone a few rounds with you in the past - you are NOT guilt free in this department. Neither am I, so please don't go off on another tear in my direction.

I would also point out that responding to ALL people with whom you disagree by accusing them of thinking you are a socialist, or lazy, or whatever because OTHER people with whom you disagree have done so in the past is really not particularily fair, either. It's kind of like "all the tea party people are racist, because a few tea party people are racist." Or as the insulting bunch on these vines like to say, the "teabaggers". Can that be risen above, at any point?

Nah, Prag. I respect you and your opinions. I know I've been pretty forceful at times, too. We can both come on pretty strong. I'm pretty sure, though, that I've never stooped to name-calling and disparaging people with the kind of abuse that's got me steamed today. I admire your ability to see the humanity behind the words and treat me (and others) like people instead of a deadly enemy.

I've put up with that whole "socialist trash" thing for a very long time without really blasting anyone for it. Since I first expressed my opposition to Iraq - based on first hand experience in Middle East intelligence as an Arabic linguist and analyst - I've been called treasonous and worse. The incivility has risen past acceptable, in my opinion. I don't think all Tea Partiers are racist, although I think strains of racism run deep for some of them. I think at least as many voted against Obama because of his race as voted FOR him because of his race; I hope they canceled each other out. I never saw "teabagger" as a pejorative, since the term originated with them, but I have no problem avoiding it if it's offensive to you or anyone else. I never meant it that way. I certainly don't see "teabagger" as on par with "libtard."

I'd like to think that a substantial number of us can rise above all of it. I respect the vote of the American people. I don't like the direction conservatism has taken, and I'm not pleased with yesterday's results, but I do not think the American people are stupid, and I can live with the results of our fair and Constitutional elections.

I'd like to see less abrasiveness and a little more diplomacy. I'll be more mindful of my own approach in that regard . My desire to see more people with health coverage and less of the suffering my wife experienced at the hands of insurance company death panels does not make me a godless communist. Your desire to see entitlements cut to balance the federal budget does not make you a Nazi. Without the incendiary rhetoric, an hour and a couple of beers (no chardonnay for me, thanks) would probably bring us closer to center on that or any other issue we discuss. I truly hope we all make a little progress in that direction.

Sorry for the rant.

Bull....!!!!!!!!!! It's television and if you don't like the banners change the station. Watch it on Public Television. You know, the one that kicked Juan Williams (a Democrat - one of their own) off the air.

Trust me, I heard most of his speech and he is being very arrogant!

Jerry, that's intellect. It only looks like arrogance to some people.

Jack, the fact that you consider this intellect, explains the HISTORIC TRAMPLING of unwanted Liberal policies.

Eman1, in my America there's room for liberals AND conservatives. Too much of either can be disastrous for all of us.

Insult me for it if you like, but I believe the man possesses an intellect that hasn't been seen in that office for a very long time. Liberal ideology is not an indication of shallow intellect.

i doubt that will happen, as they believe that they and they only own the government that they hate so much....we'll throw them out again,,, the angry morons will have to be beat back...all those nazi facist rightwing radical haters!

OMG - after that speech? Absolutely not. That man learned nothing from yesterday. The man is a horrible President and he is intent on destroying this country. He has sis eyes set on the end game and he doesn't care about the means used to get there. The only way that we can continue with the success of yesterday is to firmly push forward our views and if the President isn't willing to come to the Right (no, not center, center is just Lib codeword for Democrat way) we are duty called to push him out of office, for the good of the country.

Sandy, second highest corporate tax rate in the world will not, or has ever made corporations stay in America. America has decided that a one-term Obama presidency is exactly what America needs to get out of the economic downturn. Didn't you watch any of the election results last night?

When the president is flat out attempting to change the fundamental make up of our country, why would the republicans want to encourage his reelection? It's sort of the opposition party's thing to do everything they can to get their guy back into the Oval office, isn't it?

Why dont we worry about 1 term vs 2 terms in 2 years when the term is up and focus on what can be done NOW?

Alot can change in 2 years. Yesterday is a good case in point. If the President is willing to move to the center and show that he can govern for all instead of the left, A lot of independants and moderates would back him again - i would if he can show that he is a center president and stops trying to feed me a liberal agenda.

Civil debate could start with you...there is really no need to name call ...we all need to work together now...

I am sorry should I not have called him Mr. President? Isn't that who he is..and I call the current government agenda socialist! And it is true the Dems did not want open debate on their agenda The Slaughter Rule, that didn't pass proves that!

The President tried, and was summarily rebuffed. He was given no choice but to move forward and work on the promises he made, and was elected to keep, without the Republicans. The President compromised a ton, bringing the ire of his own party down on his head time, and time again.

The majority who voted last night are unhappy with the President, but they, nor you, speak for all the people.

I love our President.

I think you just got up on the wrong side of the bed and need to vent..and since these blogs are annonymous...u use it spew ugly comments...haven't we seen enough of the name calling and ugliness in the last couple of years..this is a new start to try to get something going for the people of the United States..to work together to create jobs..help the economy, etc...you do need to take a deep breath and put a smile on your face! You should be happy with the election results...

Sorry, still did not get into name calling or ugly comments! I don't need a deep breath nor am I tired, actually feeling very good right now, but thank you for your concern. Mr. President is a sign of respect,...I just don't have to like his agenda!! Maybe you should take the advice you gave me!

tobig - right on - he has been saying the same thing for last two years. Each time he meant to say, I am open to listening to your points of view as long as they agree 100% with mine. He has the nerve to try that again today.

Game over Mr. President!

You obviously just don't know what socialism is. Looking for you most people that share your political views don't either. So when you throw around big and scary words like socialism in the wrong context it makes them scared and suddenly so patriotic they can't wait to vote. Spreading fear through lies and deceit is not patriotic regardless of what party you belong to. This whole socialism thing really has gone far enough.

Obama knows what socialism is, he has been a socialist all of his life. Read his books for chrissake.

Actually, my TRUE VETERAN husband and I HAVE read Obama's books. Obviously, you have not.

Only someone who gets their information from right-wing hate screamers, would throw out such a false statement.

I guess I am an un-true vet, right? If you read his books, then you are the liar, or in denial of the printed word.

The channel I am watching does not have news banners...I think it is the station not the President's office....

That's right Mr. President you tell'em Bring it Own.

I think that's "Bring it On.".

Just trying to help.

You have to realize you are conversing with Chicago residents which are not to bright to begin with!

I am a Chicago native, and I think you meant "too," not "to" and "who," not "which."

Jerry - 1153305

"...Chicago residents which are not to bright to begin with!"

Sweet irony. I think the grammar you're looking for is '...not 'too' bright...'

Slim, I think she meant "own", as in the government "owns" all of its citizens. Afterall, that is/was Obama's goal. Karl Marx lives.

Are you kidding me. I could have walked into any State in the United States, said I was running for House Rep and that I was a Republican running against an incumbent Democrat. And I would have won. Was last night about Obama's policies? Maybe, but even then maybe just a tiny bit. Last night was about angry people voting against Washington in general. If the Republicans would have been the majority last night then they would not be today. It's really that simple.

Many voters said their vote was a message against Obama, not in favor of Republicans. In fact, the GOP's standing remains as dismal as that of the Democrats. In the exit polls, each party was viewed unfavorably by a majority of those surveyed.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/2010-11-03-Analysis_N.htm

You might want to do a bit more reading, jon. Exit polls on CNN and Fox last night and MSNBC this morning has ranges of 30-45% saying this was a vote against POTUS. Another 20-30% said POTUS had no effecton their vote. Percentages varied by market and poll, obviously.

No, that's not ALL of them, clearly. There is only one statement that can made that will be 100% accurate, 100% of the time: There is NO statement regarding opinion that will apply to everyone. If you ask 10 people if the sky is blue, invariably someone will say, it's cerulean, azure or blue-gray.

For something like this to NOT have happened would have been monumental. When it happened for W, it was more about supporting the war, less about policy. With unemployment high, and so much misinformation being tossed about... Like how EXPENSIVE TARP WAS, when it's being paid back... you know, loan program written by the BUSH administration... anyway, this was not suprising.

Fezzy, for the first time since Mee-chelle stated she ,finally, was proud of her country, I am now proud of that same country again.

Tammy, we will be PLEASED to leave you and your children out of it!

But don't come crying to Medicare or Medicaid when one of them gets sick. Don't take Social Security disability coverage. If your husband dies, don't take SS survivor benefits.

Make sure you do not have a government job, use the roads that WE pay for. Do NOT take government flood insurance. Get your own water, and test it for safety.

Let the meat plants run wild, and don't blame us if your kids get e-coli.

And why do I get the idea that NONE of your "children" would ever join the military to protect our country in an honest war?

Yes, do without the big bad gubmint.

You know what else is a 'teachable moment?' Demonstrating the physics of what happens to a body when it comes into contact with the grill of an RV.

I thought you Libs only drove hybrids’?

I'd like to see you spend a week doing a job illegals do in California for a life time. Then come talk to me about them taking jobs from Americans.

Jon, I would like to see you on trial for TREASON.

I don't give a rat's a** what kind of work an ILLEGAL is doing in this country because an ILLEGAL should NOT BE WORKING IN THIS COUNTRY...PERIOD.

Leah-DMB

If the legislative body felt being here illegally was a CAPITOL offense, why is the crime considered a class 2 misdemeanor?

I hardly think compassion for people trying to make a better life for themselves by doing the jobs 'EXCEPTIONAL' Americans decided decades ago were beneath them is worthy of this vitriole.

Clara, what is a "Capitol" crime, a mugging in the rotunda? I have compassion for my country's citizens, and do not care for the fact that thirty to 50% of prisoners in our southwest and west are illegals. Legal ok, ILLEGAL is ILLEGAL. Is that so hard to understand with your bleeding heart?

Dasvet,

Well, you caught me in a friggin' typo. Send out the spellcheck police. My heart bleeds for those who have NO compassion; yet feel compelled to wear their ignorance so proudly on their sleeves. ILLEGAL or not, they've been doing the @!$%# work no one else will do and for a fair amount less than fair market. I would think you'd be equally outraged with the employers PAYING them under the table. By the way, your stat about prisoners was pulled from your ass. Which is stunning to me given the overcrowding there with your other body parts.

Nice mouth, Clara. The issue is about our country's being OUR country. Illegal aliens who work hard and may be underpaid, has nothing to do with the issue of open borders that allow any and every one who wishes to enter, unimpeded. There isn't room for for or five billion more souls invading this country, no matter how hard they work or how little they make.

Assuming your family tree forks and you could actually go back through the branches, I am sure you would find SOME member of your family IMMIGRATED. Regardless of status, I assure you that the process THEN was far less gridlocked and convoluted than it is now. And you are acting like somehow on 1-20-2009 the borders just magically opened. This has been going on for DECADES. Mainly because no political party has the appetite for strong immigration reform. I am a card carrying Cherokee Indian, so as far as I'm concerned - you're all a bunch of illegals.

PS. You still didn't address why they come here, and it ABSOLUTELY is about the Corporatists who are 'beating' the system by paying under the table. Quit defending one class of criminal at the expense of another. And to further underscore my point. If you drove to work or home at more than 15 miles over the speed limit, you are guilty of the SAME type of misdemeanor as an "illegal alien" in MOST states.

Clara, what card do you carry? I, too, am part Cherokee, but I missed the giving out of the cards. You miss the point completely, Clara, it is the whole immigration system that needs changing, but the solution must begin at the governmental level, as to closing the border, and then enacting(and enforcing) laws that make it prohibittedly expensive for companies to hire ILLEGALS. It doesn't matter why they came, the problem is the same, overloading the structure of this nation. A legal immigration system is necessary, but unbounded illegal immigration will be the destruction of this country. Why don't we just use the immigration system of the failed countries that are the source of the ILLEGAL immigrants in our country. That would seal our borders immediately.

Dasvet

I apologize for baiting you earlier. I see we can discuss this. By the way, if you can trace your family to being counted during the Dawes Commission (Dawes Rolls - around early 1900's) you can apply for a Degree of Indian Blood from the Department of Interior. I am also registered with the Cherokee Tribe in Tahlequah, Oklahoma.

I don't think I missed the point. Immigration processed through Staten Island is so 20th Century. I personally don't believe the system is overloaded as much as the inherent inefficiencies of local, state and federal governments are not keeping up with 'demand'. Amnesty in the 1980's, under the HERO Reagan was not a smart plan. Threats of deportation do not encourage honesty - which I think is the greatest issue with most people. Illegal equates to Dishonest and that doesn't set well. But lots of things are illegal, and people do them anyway. It is a classic "punishment doesn't fit the crime" scenario. I think you are being a little naive in dismissing the Corporate culpability in this. It is a vicious cycle. I've got an appointment to get to, so will have to pick up in a couple of hours. Again, sorry I got snarky with you.

Clara, illegal immigration is a thorny problem at best. Thanks for your civility, and I need to practice that better myself. It was meant it as a joke about "capitol" crime, I understand your take on it. Amnesty has never worked, I agree, it only encourages more illegal immigration. Legal and controlled immigration seems to me to be the only course that can be effective. Have a good day.

If they didn't read the bills, it was because they were to busy (John Boehner) throwing them on the floor of the House and declaring them DOA. If they had spent half as much time working as they did posturing who knows what we might have accomplished.

Its what they may have accomplished that scared most of Americans. Thank God for the party of NO!

So, you want to allow insurance companies to deny coverage to children?

typical. the guys who crashed the plane are being fired. the plane crashed with the dems had majority in both houses for the last 4 years. four years ago the financial collapse began (please, no rhetoric about how it started long before that....if we look at how it started we will see liberal spending is the cause, no matter what party. LIBERAL SPENDING is mostly dems). how is it that liberals fail to see reality and continue to believe the divisive obama and crowd?

why werent you concerned about spending during non obama years? where was your voice then? wars and searching for WMD can be very expensive. should obama or any president for that matter sit back with his hands tied because the last guy spent all the money? if he didnt do anything you would still be ticked off..i got news for you. you got the house but the house is only 1/3 of the whole. now that you have the house come up with some GOOD solutions to these problems. while you are at it, make sure it benefits middle america and not just the rich. btw you have 22 months to do it in..lets see what you can do.

Yes you may and I hope you do, but better keep an eye on the crook, the extended hand is to either take from you what you earned, looking for a handout, or is collecting donations for his ticket back to Kenya! Just a warning.

go hide in whole and pull your own chain teabag. maybe we should get you a ticket back to europe where you should feel right at home as a royal subject .

wow you suck