Good job, way to throw race into this! Dumba@@

I heard the comments today. Here's a video of the words coming right out of the mouth of Obama:

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/obama-to-gop-%E2%80%98they-can-come-for-the-ride-but-they-have-to-sit-in-back/

And guess what? There are republican middle class citizens; there are republicans who are poor; there are republicans who are wealthy. This president just loves to stoke the flames of class warfare.

Obama and his administration has done a lot , and if it weren't for the republicans blocking everything , they could have done so much more.I can't believe poeple seem blind, did you not see the republicans trying to protect the same people who got us in this situation.

Obama, his administration, and Pelosi are doing wonders for healthcare. Just got my 2011 premium notice. Biggest annual increase ever at 10%. If Obama had any guts, he would appear on O'Reilly, who has been excessively fair to him. What exactly is he afraid of?

He should have said "We have done a lot of awful".

newdayDAWNING10 It appears you do not have an IQ of over 70 otherwise you wouldn't keep repeating yourself. And to those who think Obama has done an awful lot......he has. It's just that most of the population is not happy with what he's done. Hence the low approval ratings.

Lucy, do you seriously KEEP PRESSING THE CAPS LOCK BUTTON?

Also, you might want to take a break from the computer if your getting that pissed off.

ur taking the back seat thing out of context look who is telling it fox they twist there storys more then anyone. he didn't mean all the republicans just the ones who want to keep this a white rich mans america i'm not saying macain is an evil or bad man just that he lacks the common sense. thats what happens when u have had realgious ideas cramed down ur throat for 60 + years like him.

It is just amazing how friggin smart you are newday. Nice how you talk down to all of the rest of us with your truculent insight.

vet, god help us if he is allowed to do any more..... the man is evil

newday, newsweek works for oboma

Newday and the rest of you liberals:

I heard his azz say "ENEMY" and the back of the bus also.

I am a 24yr combat veteran that bled for this country an I vote Republican so I guess I am the enemy.

This where I draw the line. I have never said anything derogatory about Obama personally but this will not be forgotten.

No teleprompter has got him caught up.

Thanks touchdownplay, glad you are able to recognize that!

Obama speaking to a Latino crowd,
"“If Latinos sit out the election instead of saying, ‘We’re going to punish our enemies and we’re gonna reward our friends who stand with us on issues that are important to us,"

How is what he has said here ANY DIFFERENT then ANY OTHER Politician who declares their ideological opposite 'the enemies'? HE DOES NOT SPECIFICALLYY SAY REPUBLICANS! Anyone who pulls that out of that quote is INJECTING IT INTO the quote. He is saying "let's punish our enemies of immigration reform" NOT REPUBLICANS OR ANY SPECIFIC PERSON. HE DID NOT CALL REPUBLICANS HIS ENEMIES. Anyone who says otherwies is injecting that into the comment for their own political or social gain.

Stop taking it out of context.

For a third party look at all these posts, I put newdaydawn high on comprehension and patience, even.
To the rest, take heart, if when you do not succeed, try and try again.
Dawn brings a new day to look forward to.

@newdayDAWNING10 :maybe you should take a step back and look at the whole picture. You best believe when our preisdent made the "back of the bus" statement he knew it would bring about racism. where do you think back of the bus came from? 1955 & Rosa Parks ring a bell? Even Dr. Timothy F. Johnson head of the National Black Republican Association is calling for apologies for this racist remark. And this isn't the first time he has used them He also recently called for hispanics to "punish their enemies". Who is this enemy he speaks of? I thought we were all americans here, did I miss something? He isn't for saving the middle class. He is only concerned for the banks and giving the feds more power to do as they please without having to answer to anyone.

IntheMiddle, TX

Thank you for your courage and risking your life for our freedom. We are slowly losing these same freedoms, I'm afraid. God Bless you.

For those of you who can tolerate the truth, go to fact check.org, and see the lies both sides are telling. About equal.

According to the non-partisan CBO, the national debt was climbing about 104 billion a year under G. Bush. It is now climbing 104 billion a month under Obama.

Obama called republicans the enemy. He specifically said republicans in his radio talk. used the back of the bus line too. if someone had suggested he sit in the back of the bus, the libs would be screaming racist all over the place. problem is, Obama is more white than black, biologically. Caucasian genes are dominant. Scientific fact. There are black repubs too. Steele should be demanding an apology.

Awful is exactly how I would describe it.

Where did you get that info at. You need to do better at gathering the facts.

Midterm elections to usher in further shift by Obama to the Right

By Barry Grey

27 October 2010

The element of manipulation in US elections is immense. Under conditions of a political monopoly of two right-wing big business parties, legally enforced by ballot access restrictions and a host of other barriers to third party campaigns, torrents of corporate campaign cash, and the exclusion of anti-capitalist views by the corporate-owned media, elections in America have far more to do with the ruling class’s recalibration of policy and changes in its governing personnel than with the democratic will of the people. The sentiments and desires of the people can find no genuine expression within the existing political framework.

Next Tuesday’s midterm elections are no exception. With Election Day less than a week away, it is clear that, whatever the precise breakdown of Democrats and Republicans in the new Congress and in statehouses across the country, the outcome of the vote will be a further shift to the right by the Obama administration.

This pivot to even more overtly anti-working class policies flies in the face of popular sentiment, which is moving to the left. However, the semi-official narrative of the election, relentlessly promoted by the media, is that the American people, in the midst of the deepest economic and social crisis since the Great Depression, are rebelling against even the most minimal forms of social relief and clamoring for fewer regulations for the banks and corporations and more tax cuts for the rich.

The supposed embodiment of this “grass roots populism” is the Tea Party movement. In reality, it is largely a media creation, massively funded by billionaire Republican reactionaries and having only a small popular base.

The Washington Post on Sunday published an article summarizing the results of its own survey of the Tea Party, which found it to be a “disparate band of vaguely connected gatherings that do surprisingly little to engage in the political process.” The newspaper was able to make contact with only 647 groups linked to the Tea Party, some of which involve only a handful of people. “The findings suggest that the breadth of the tea party may be inflated,” the Post concluded diplomatically.

The basic function of the Tea Party is to help shift the entire spectrum of official politics in the US further to the right....

....If the Republicans make significant gains on Election Day it will be the result of a collapse in support for the Democrats, expressed in the abstention of millions of working people and youth who voted for Obama two years ago in the mistaken belief that his promises of progressive change were genuine. These illusions have been widely shattered by the administration’s refusal to offer any policies to create jobs or provide serious relief for the millions of unemployed, many of whom are losing their homes and their savings and being driven into poverty...

http://www.wsws.org/articles/2010/oct2010/elec-o27.shtml

I am truly sick of the name Obama. Has he started being the President yet or is he just someone who runs for office with out ever stopping to take care of the office? Stop campaigning already. Really! Never has any President ever been so niglectful of the office as Obama.

It is the Economy stupid. And we are Americans you idiot not global citizens.

If I want to be a global citizen then fine I will be a global citizen but no way man should our government be "making" us "shaping" us as they would like. Liberty does not allow for that.

You must be one of em U.S. Americans..! hello... :)

There was an error in transcription. It was supposed to read "We have done awful - a lot."

@newdayDAWNING10

You're quite the angry individual, and repeating insults and pot-shots at Lucy1 and anybody who supports her while continuing to pump up your already over-inflated ego makes you seem exceptionally foolish. Also, the one and only statistic you have cited (the Newsweek poll) is one of many polls, and most national polls show Obama at a higher disapproval rating than approval rating. Check out Real Clear Politics if you would like; they list out the most current polls and their results. That would certainly help you appear to have an IQ of greater than 70. It includes most reputable polls, including Gallup, CBS News/NY Times, Reuters, Rasmussen, CNN/Ipsos, NBC/Wall Street Journal and many others, so as to remain non-partisan. The Newsweek poll is a statistical out-lier. Do your research.

Most people are going to fall onto one side of the fence or the other. I certainly have my strong opinions, which I do not plan to share, but the personal attacks on here are childish and unnecessary. Actually, calling them childish is an insult to my kids because my children behave far better and have the good sense to back their comments with fact and information, which certainly seems lacking in these posts. I can have very intelligent conversations with them. Like my wife and me, they try to read and listen to media on both sides (liberal and conservative and, yes, including Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, and Glenn Beck) and they ask good questions so that they're well informed to make their own determinations. And, they're 14, 11, 9, and 8 (my 15-month refrains from commenting). They're also smart enough to present their opinions intelligently without insulting those with opposing opinions (take note, newdayDAWNING10).

Few seem happy with the performance of the American government over the last several years. If nothing else, Obama has energized and mobilized the American people to get involved in their governments, take responsibility for their roles in the system, and raise the conversations regarding government performance to the top of most people's agendas. And that, in and of itself, is a good thing, though polarizing the nation and creating a rabid anger wouldn't be my first choice for accomplishing this goal.

As for the rest... I think we need a balance of power between the executive and legislative branches of government. Some call it gridlock; I consider it check and balance, and it truly is what makes the system work.

Lucy1, keep posting. Agree or disagree, I enjoy reading what you have to say.

http://newsflavor.com/politics/world-politics/white-house-insider-they-were-in-shock-at-the-presidents-behavior/

Part 2:
http://newsflavor.com/politics/us-politics/white-house-insider-president-obama-is-lost-absolutely-lost/

http://newsflavor.com/opinions/white-house-insider-coming-soon-serious-white-house-scandal/

Lucy...InMiddleTx...

No need to flaunt the veteran status...

24yr combat veteran that bled for this country...

You volunteered just as I did - you selected the service you wanted to be with, and you made decisions to stay. Sure Panama, Bosnia, Somalia, Desert Storm, Desert Storm II and numerous military operations other than war are the missions we as a nation pursued for national interest of economic or domestic security.

I was extremely pleased when President Regan infused massive spending into defense - I didn't have to cannibalize parts from many to make a few good parts. The Carter Administration held defense spending...a braver move in retrospect. But with Regan...and George H.W. Bush, the massive defense build-up is credited with the fall of the former Soviet Union...but in reflection I have to consider the resolve it took not to turn Iran into a "glass factory" during the 444 days of holding hostages. We had the plans, we had the resolve, yet we didn't pull the trigger. Instead, we tried a rescue attempt that failed in the middle of the desert. We've had success over Panama during Just Cause, a mess in Grenada and Somalia, success in Bosnia Herzgovenia...a well defined and executed Desert Storm I, followed by a lack of focus in Desert Storm II, not to mention absolutely no clear mission in Afghanistan to begin with - then abandoning the objective to divert attention to WMD and letting the suspect get away...

Yes, I served over 26 years in special mission aircraft ... AWACS, Special Operations, reconnisanse... and executed missions for the national command. INflitrating before declared wars, and way before ... god forbid...the Marines or the Army ever showed up. We always showed up in the dark with men picked to fit into the local community...In my opinion, I am so glad to be drawing down in Iraq and even more excited that there are decision points to determine our continuation in Afghanistan.

Lucy - I sincerely appreciate your praise to InMiddleTx...there is something to be said for volunteering for an undesirable task - but trust me...we were rewarded far beyond the imagination of any U. S. citizen who has not served - cause there is nothing like representing your country and standing tall for all our country's faults and ideals. In uniform you have the unique ability to make friends while wearing combat protective gear and carrying a weapon. Reaching out to local civilians offering portions of your rations to feed kids is rewarding...until you realize that the power you yield collectively in uniform has put a civilization on its knees for basic essentials of water, food, and security. That is why Iraq is a peek at how long ... as suggested by General Shinziki to President George W. Bush in 2002... an invasion and occupation would take. Bush and his administration ...Cheney and Rumsfield ... Fired Shinziki because he did not give them the answer they wanted to invade Iraq. We are project to still be in Iraq through 2019...can you imagine that...how many Americans have been cast aside because of suspected WMD?

I voted Republican before - but after 26 years in the military - I can say with conviction - yes DOD gained from Republican administrations. That meant defense spending increased. But from my perspective - Democrats have more focus on international policy so we do not haphazardously go to conflict. Plus, Democrats have had to deal with the massive overspending Republicans have engaged to bolster defense or TARP or Stimulus I....notice that the last TWO recessions occurred on Republican watches. Fully policies of Republican Congresses and Republican Presidents. How the hell can you even consider passing the keys of our great nation back to a wreckless drunken party? Unless of course.... you are just proud of .... bleeding

Great post, AF Chief.

Dang it Pjam, you took the words right out my mouth before I could say it. Good job though.

Obama has done a lot that has been just awful!

I don't know what is wrong with the quote button, but it is getting annoying not being able to quote and then switch back to regular text after the quote to make my own statements.

Yes, they have moved forward on an agenda that is made a NEGATIVE difference in peoples lives. We are not looking forward to the future, with the crushing bill to pay and the loss of employer sponsored health care. Now working people will not have health care due to Obamacare. Thanks for nothing........

Over and over again we have moved forward an agenda that is making a difference in people's lives,"

I am always greatly amused by the inability of the right wing to tolerate opinion that differs from their own. Their efforts to suppress speech by use of the collapse button is a larger metaphor, though they are too deficit in complex thought to understand that. It is simply this: it is the right wings' collective effort to put their fingers in their ears, shouting" NAH, NAH, NAH, I can't HEAR you" to avoid facts that may disturb the paranoia that they suffer about a Democratic, black (GASP!) President. Facts are troublesome things to those who want to deal in innuendo, and the fact is that President Obama WAS talking about putting the middle class in the driver's seat. Those of you who voted for Bush for two terms have no grounds to complain about spending or anything else. You are the ones that caused this disaster of an economy, though you are too blinded by hate to see that. One hopes that you can educate yourselves out of blind hatred, but that may be too much to ask for a society that clearly worships ignorance.

taylorsebastian: so to reduce your comments down to be the most simple one can, we get this: it is completely permissible for someone like poor Lucy1 to post wrongheaded information about what the President says. It is not all right to call her on it. How misguided.

@ Dawning - Lucy was right about the comments the President said. It was said during his campaigning for one of his Democratic hopefuls and it has received much airplay due to it's negative connotations. I would submit that the Liberals are the ones who are collapsing most. Lucy was correct and only stating facts and was collapsed.

Fact is, Obama said he was putting the Republicans in the back seat. He has done nothing to put the Middle class in ANY SEAT! All pretty words, no facts to back it up.

newdayDAWNING10: Which station fired someone for stating an nonPC feeling? Oh yeah, that would be the left leaning NPR. Which president calls those who disagree with him the enemy and to scared to think clearly? Oh yeah, that would leftist Obama.

That's the thing that I do not understand: the guy who campaigned on a post-partisan theme, with the overarching goal of cooperation and changing the tone in Washington, goes out and calls members of the opposing party "enemies." Seriously? It is pretty outrageous for the President to say something like that about individuals who merely subscribe to a differing political ideology. "Enemy" is a word that should be reserved for people such as Muslim extremists, or the Iranian regime, or the Taliban. It was a pretty ridiculous statement, especially given that his campaign was supposed to have stood for something completely opposite of that statement.

I'm sure that someone might counter by saying that the Republicans have not been very cooperative with Obama and the Democratic agenda, but that's really not an excuse for the "post-partisan" President going on the record and calling out the Republicans as "enemies".

Jill F., Tulsa, OK
Please say your kidding. Obama reached across the aisle TOO MUCH at the beginning in an attempt to reach Republicans. All they did is ignore him & make him the enemy of issues they wouldn't even come to the compromise table over. It's hard to be 'post-partisan' when the other side has NEVER been MORE partisan.

I love how the Right is getting all up in arm over the president referring to the ENEMIES OF IMMMIGRATION REFORM whle speaking with Latino's. QWhen ALL THEY HAVE DONE is demonized the president & anything Democratic or progressive. This thread is the height of hypocrisy where after 2 years of the Right calling Obama Hitler, a Nazi, a Withdoctor & whatever else that they get mad when he refers to anyone who opposes him on Immigration Reform as his enemies. When the Right has declared OUTRIGHT in PLAIN WORDS that therir ONLY ENEMY IS OBAMA. WHAT COMPLETE HYPOCRISY

Mitch McConnell stated outright that the only goal of the GOP is to make sure that Obama is a one-term President. How's that for teh lead issue in the Regressive Party. Their lead concern is NOT jobs, it is NOT the economy, it is NOT you, thier lead objective is to make Obama look bad. How's that for a plan??

Dear GoUSA: what does NPR have to do with anything, fact is they looked plain silly with what they did. One does not justify idiocy from either side, though I know that would be a revolutionary thought for you. I am saying this as slowly and using as common language as I can: President Obama said he wants to put middle class America in the driver's seat. Your problem with that is......?

Speak for yourself JobSeeker. He is trying to do the things that I want him to do. He is doing the things most of us who voted for him want him to do. He is not doing what teapartyfoxpublicans want him to do. I want a leader who does the right and courageous thing regardless of opinion polls.

....regardless of opinion polls

When leaders, politicians or people say they disregard opinion polls, they are really saying they don't care about what the people think. So much for representing or listening to the people.

Bush should have appeared on an episode of "Bring Back the Constitution", broadcast from Gitmo.

The President is listening to me and I am poeple too.

We are to be for the majority of the people not the minority people. Opinion polls matter.

The POTUS has done wonders. My health insurance has increased by $271./month. My oldest son who is 22 can now come back onto my plan- for another $300./month. Transparancy is rampant- got to see the entire health care plan before it was enacted-yeah right LOL- dollar is going down the toilet so money saved is losing value. Unemployment is near the lowest levels in I don't know how long-HaHaHaHaHaHa. Keep up the great work prez!!!!!

Great Post! All while managing a flue epidemic and the largest oil spill in American History. What a President!!!!

All with NO rethuglican help.

Obama 2012!!!!!

You forgot brought back santa clause, bowed to a foreign king and single handedly made the christians in this country pray again. Why don't you make a parade for him, a national holiday. This man has so far accomplished 10 of the 11 moves that every harbinger of socialism has done. And yes, this is your president and mine. I just pray we can do something about it in the next two years or US will no longer be a super anything. (even place to live)

Gosh...They could not pay me enought to LIE os you just did !!!!!!!!!!!!!! or do you believe what you just wrote ? They are people like that to. you know, God bless there harts, they cant help it. sorry Maregold

Ronkon shet No you dont know. Your insurance increase had nothing to do with the health care bill silly......do you have a clue at all. GeeZ

It takes more than 2 years to clean up a mess that was created in 8 years. History will tell the real story, the angry people of this country should be angry with the Bush policies that lead us into this mess. Obama is not a savior, he cannot fix what the prior administration did to us in 2 short years. He probably will never fix the mess, but at least he has the guts to stand up to the R party and try. He has given the young people in this country something to be fired up about and try to correct, after all, they are the ones that were left with the mess. At least he is looking forward and not trying to go back like the stupid Tea Pary A holes.

Actually, tactical, the health care debacle DID cause the rate to increase faster because of MANDATING that those up to age 26 can now be covered on their parents' plan, because no one can be dropped when they reach a maximum amount, because there is no longer a ceiling on how much health insurance has to pay, and because they have several years to try to build their reserves to cover the losses they will incur when medical charges go up because Medicare and Medicaid absolutely do not cover enough of the costs to cover the basic expenses of a hospital or doctor's office.

Some of the changes have already gone into effect.

Also, taxes WILL be going up on many taxpayers because the portion of health insurance that the employer pays will be considered as wages as of January 2011 (I think - I do know they have to start reporting it then). This will throw people into new tax brackets. (Higher income=higher taxes)

TANSTAAFL (There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch). I just wish that the liberals on this vine would realize this.

What is it with you conservatives? The man laid it all out about President Obama's accomplishments and even though all of it is well documented, some of you are discounting it and calling it lies. Have you lost your minds? This thing of putting on blinders just because you don't like the man is getting out of hand. PLUS...His name is President Obama. Show a little respect for once in your miserable lives. Just because you don't like the man's policies doesn't mean you can spend all your time calling him names. It's becoming tedious and boring. Is there any of you out there that has any class at all? I know I'll get flamed for this but all that does is prove my point.

Did you expect him to clean up Dumbya Bush's mess in a just a few months?

Idiot.

Marigold, I assume you have gotten your list of obamas list of whatever from obama himself. I would suggest you look deeper and check your source.

The pendulum swing starts with inertia. We are in the swing after an agonizing GOP nono-show for two years. Don't break the momentum now. Think about it, the good book says god created paradise in 6 days and Rome was not built in one day. One cannot say something does not work before it even kicks in. That's propaganda, media reviving the guilty before proven wild west culture. Use better judgment and there is a newdaydawn.

Patriots would take Country First and support the President and recovery will be that much quicker.

Tammy - You should check your facts. Employer paid benefits will not be counted as income starting in 2011 as you stated. Employer paid benefits will however show up on your W-2 in 2012 (for 2011) for informational purposes.

Taxing employer paid benefits was proposed during the 2008 election...by John McCain. Thankfully it didn't make into the healthcare bill. Blaming Obama for something that's not actually going to happen and was a Republican idea, that's an interesting (if illogical) approach.

http://www.factcheck.org/2010/05/health-care-law-and-w-2-forms/

For those of you who don't believe Mariogold's list, check out the 2009 Pulitzer Prize Winning website www.politifact.com. It is keeping a running track of 500 of President Obama's campaign promises. It lists the ones he's kept (122), those that he's broken (22), those that are "in the works" (240+), and those that are "stalled". I'm sure those of you who hate him will never go to this site because you don't like the facts, only the hateful lies.

He is trying to do almost everything I voted for him to do. He has also done some things I disagree with, but I have never been sorry that I voted for him. I just feel very sorry for those that hate him so much that they continually lie about him. You are very sad human beings, or else very RICH ones.

Lady Lindy

I am not rich and I do hate everything he has done and his praise me I am God attitude. I fear that soon I will be much poorer than I am now.

All while managing a flue epidemic and the largest oil spill in American History. What a President!!!!

Oh yeah. That's right. That flue epidemic that had to be resuscitated so that they could prove themselves correct. You remember - the one where they counted all cases of flu as swine flu and even skewing the numbers didn't equal the regular number of cases of seasonal flu.

And that oil spill was so well managed that they "parroted" the numbers spewed by BP. That oil that just disappeared from government view but scientists are able to locate.

tactical

Healthcare reform hasn't even gone into effect yet- you're just BSing

as most repugnants do- can your son get medical coverage on his own for $300 a month? Doubt it.

JimC- I am now 31 years old, when I was 21 I could get insurance for $70 a month.....I don't know how much rates have risen in the past decade but I would be willing to bet it isn't over 400%

Hey Jim,

Newsflash. Insurance companies dropped health insurance policies written just for kids like a hot potato as soon as they found out that Obamacare told them they must insure kids with pre-existing conditions.

I guess they used to sell policies for kids only. So they just eliminated all of the Kid only policies.

So my point is when Nancy Pelosi tells us that we have to pass a bill so we can determine what is in it we should all roll over and let her scratch our bellies again.

I have no idea how 50% (which is just a guess before you go and tell me the figure is all wrong) of the country still likes anything that the Feds do.

I guess if you like being lied to everyday you will vote in some more incumbents.

The Pelosi comment is often quoted by conservatives thus did a little digging and finally found a source that is not a rightwing blog... PolitiFact.

Full quote from Nancy Pelosi was

But we have to pass the bill so you can find out what is in it, away from the fog of controversy

PolitiFact Texas Article excerpt

...led us to call U.S. Rep. Michael Burgess, R-Lewisville, among a handful of physicians in Congress and an opponent to the Democrats' proposal.

Burgess told us it's often true that the ins and outs of legislation aren't widely known until after a measure passes into law; that held true, for instance, for the Republican-steered measure providing government aid toward prescription drugs for seniors.

Pelosi's "right," Burgess said, though "I don’t think that’s a good strategy (to declare as much). I wouldn’t recommend anyone actually broadcasting that."

Based on the statement by Republican Rep Burgess, we should all be confident that Pelosi, Reid, Obama and Democrats that support the President are working diligently for the American People considering ALL Interests. Special and Non Special.

http://www.politifact.com/texas/statements/2010/mar/15/republican-party-texas/texas-gop-says-speaker-nancy-pelosi-said-people-wi/

Well done, adidas 503!

What makes you think it is a fiasco? It hasn't even been implemented yet! I urge you to spell out exactly what part of the healthcare reform you believe is a "fiasco". Somehow, I doubt you can.

Pages 11-17, 235-322, 225-341, 354-377. I'll let you go and read them so you can give me YOUR take on that section and then we"ll tackle the 2nd 500 pages, K?...:)

If you were gay, you'd have a very different opinion.

That you are calling the health care reform law government healthcare shows that you are misinformed.

dangerfield, no wonder the HCR Bill is so many pages. They used double spacing and size 20 font lol

http://docs.house.gov/rules/health/111_ahcaa.pdf

It was Health INSURANCE reform for Pete's sake, NOT healthcare reform. That would actually be a good idea. Not to take anything away but to expand and deliver better.

Complaining about the length of a bill is a great talking point, but adidas 503 is only half right. Bills are 20point font and quadruple spaced. The quadruple spacing is so congressmen and senators can write notes. The 20 point font? Well, these people aren't the youngest.

Why hardly any of them even read the bill

And what would be the best for the next generation? I think ending social security would be the best since the next generation (including myself) won't get the benefit of receiving it in the future. Stop spending my money you old folks. You guys are the ones who screwed this all up. Get all the politicians out of office. Screw the dems and the reps. They do not care about the people. Most people are moderates, and could care less about these extremists. I hope a lot of people show up to the rally to show beckerheads and all the tea bag idiots what the real voice of the american people is. stop claiming to support the constitution when you don't even know what it says.

I call bull@!$%#, Jim. The very first things Obama did as President were all measures to shore up the banking system, halt the slide into another great depression, and try to put the economy back on firmer footing. To say he turned his back on the economy is an easily disproved lie.

Dangerfield, have you even read the bill? The first pages above that you've referenced are simply the basic terms and definitions. Seriously, do you have an issue with the definition of the word family (as an example from what's actually on page 11)? Please provide specific issues you have with the plan and tell us why each issue bothers you. Let's have an intelligent discussion or argument with facts and examples that can be referenced instead of just bitching about something in order to make one party look bad so the other can regain power. Jeez!

I can tell, YOU ARE ONE OF THEM!! go back under a rock

If the majority did not want Government healthcare then Obama wouldn't have been voted in as our President. Do not speak for the majority if you don't know what you are talking about.

53% may be a majority, but it is definitely not a 'mandate' or a 'landslide' like many liberals believe.

Actually, most people voted for Obama simply because he wasn't Bush or a republican.

They did no research into either candidate and believed the snow job that the media did.

president that considers Gay rights to be as an important an issue as he has made it......

you're kidding, right? I must have missed some legislation proposals somewhere. Care to enlighten us?

Folks you have miss read the headline. It says "We have have done awful alot".

If healthcare reform ends up anything like credit card reform I am not looking forward to it. Thanks to credit card reform my interest rates have all gone up while my available credit has gone down. My credit was and is excellent so how has this helped me? What do I have to look forward to in healthcare now. Higher rates with less coverage? He said credit card reform was going to help and it didn't. They just figured out how to get around the new laws. Will health care be the same?

A US Politician sits down next to a little girl on a domestic flight.

He asks her if she wants to talk.

She questioned him about what subject?

The Politician replies, "AGW, energy, Politics, or the US society."

The girl replies, "OK, but answer this question first. A Cow, a Horse, and a Rabbit, all eat grass. Why is their stool shaped different?"

The Politician replied, that he did not know the answer.

The little girl then stated, "If you do not know $hit, why would I want to talk to you???"

Obama has disgraced the Office, but not by appearing on a TV show.

Yes, we will see next Tuesday. Perhaps you will be surprised! There are more "we the people" out here than just you Tea Baggers.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/09/repeal-americans-health-reform-poll-finds/

Repeal? Most Americans think health reform did not go far enough, poll finds

Hey Reasonable, I will be glad to opt out of SS for you and stop spending YOUR money. But forst, please give me back all MY money that I have out into the system since 1964. My most recent statement of monies put into SS wold give me a very nice bank account.

I screwed up nothing you ignorant twit. The politicians nearly bankrupted SS when they borrowed damned near all the money then never paid it back. They don't do this and SS is well funded.

I am sure you are all in favor of the Feds putting a clause in the HCR about death squads. Maybe you are too old for medical care so just die you old person. Probably don't have parents or could care less about how the parents are going to make it when they get old. Have you said these eact words to your parents? Nah, thought not cause they would probably smack the crap out of you!

Matt, the length of the HCR Bill is not a talking point I regurgitate EVER. I was only offering a light hearted rebuttal of the claim, that the HCR Bill is so big that... it must be bad. A line of logic that I still dont understand.

My personal opinion is that the HCR bill SHOULD be lengthy and detailed. It is a legal document that tries to control Medicare costs, end abusive Insurance practices, and reduce the amount per dollar the US spends on healthcare compared to other developed nations in order to be globally competitive.

And Jon Stewart is a lot more factually based than anything on Fox news.

Are you totally out of your mind??? You don't watch FOX because you would have to show some intelligence first. Name the examples.

The whole death panels craze, the whole Obama is a muslim craze, the whole Obama was not born in America craze, the whole Obama is leading a communist takeover craze, the whole Obama wants to kill grandma craze, the whole Obama is a racist craze, the whole "call Goldline because God wants you to" craze, the whole "the stimulus didn't save a single job" craze. And so on and so on and so on. Do you seriously want me to give you more examples of how Fox is anything BUT factually based?

I seriously think Glenn Beck is responsible for half the lies that circulate around the world.

I'm an independent and listen to fox news partly for the entertainment factor but I also try and listen with an open mind so that I can hear beck or limbaugh or hannity give their input on how to FIX the country and pull it out of the recession that we're in. Unfortunately all I hear is Beck talk about how obama is a muslim and can't be trusted, I hear limbaugh talk about crazy conspiracy theories over how its obama's fault for the entire recession (even though it started before he even got into office), and I hear hannity just bitch about everything and sound like a grumpy old man for his whole show without offering any solutions. Today for example, Hannity bitched about Alec Baldwin and said "Can you imagine being married to this guy?" How is any of the crap on fox news going to make America a better place for our kids? Let's get back to helping our neighbors and taking care of ourselves. The government didn't cause the financial recession in this country, greed did. Let's get past it. The American people are great when we all work together. Let's focus on solutions.

I mostly watch both Fox News and CNN. The major difference between the two is that Fox News, with the exception of Hannity, gives Obama credit for what he does well, and critiques him for what he doesn't do well. CNN (and certainly MSNBC, NBC, and NPR) ignores his mistakes and builds Obama's image to a false high, as his propaganda machine.

I really like Jon Stewart. Even though most liberals are highly intolerant of differing opinions, calling those who differ with them racists, bigots, etc., Mr. Stewart is funny, relatively fair minded, logical, and definitely witty.

Lucy1 may have been a little passionate in her statements, but her basic premises are right on. Pitting Latino's against "the enemy", i.e., 40% of Americans who are conservative, is not only divisive and obscene, it is insulting to the intelligence of those Latinos. And using a phrase that is clearly associated with segregation, "sit in the back", is racially divisive and a throwback to pre-civil rights traumas in this country.

I had so much hope in January 2009 for what this new President could do for this country, because of the mandate with which he won the 2008 election. But that hope has since eroded first to believing that President Obama was simply inexperienced to now believing that he is a hateful, arrogant, and demanding man who has no business leading our country. The number of lies perpetrated by this man since he took office is staggering. (I'm still waiting for the promised CSPAN cameras to be behind the locked doors of his Democratic Congress.)

Jon,

I couldn't care less about Fox News but people like Jon Stewart and Keith Olbermann are nothing more than liberal versions of Rush Limbaugh, Bill O'Reilly, etc.. The people that lap up both sides of the drivel are exactly the same.

JR in HB

Jon Stewart is like Oxy rush?you're nuts. I hope you haven't reproduced.

CantWeAllJustGetAlong-2564489

I think the first rule that must be obeyed for all of us to "just get along" is for us to tell the truth. You say you listen to Fox News and then went on to mention Hannity, Beck, and Limbaugh. I think you might be stretching the truth a bit, for Limbaugh is not even on Fox News. And Glenn Beck has very specifically stated numerous times that he does not believe President Obama is a Muslim, as some have asserted. While it is true that Hannity just hates anything and everything about Obama, the "Annointed One", your other two statements about Fox News are clearly false.

So to comment on your name, which sounds a little like a question, the reason we can't all just get along is because we don't all tell the truth.

Watching an idiot like Bill O'Reilly is not intelligent.

JR in HB:

I disagree with putting Jon Stewart and Keith Olberman in the same sentence (like I just did). Jon Stewart is moderately left, witty, and not at all anywhere close to the cruel, uninformed, and intolerant Olberman. Olberman might very well be a decendent of an SS officer in Nazi Germany. (I'm joking, of course.)

"Actually, most people voted for Obama simply because he wasn't Bush or a republican."

Those sound like pretty damm good reasons to me...

there was no other possible reason to have voted for Prez Obama, nobody knew what his stances were or how he would run the country.....the guy never voted on anything as senator.

Knight ranger - it was clear you were not listening to any of his speeches or read the campaign platforms. I did and heard lots of specifics that he has tried to accomplish. since you were asleep then - please go back to sleep and wake up in two more years.

You are exactly right on alien. We will start in 2012 with a conservative leader. Excellent suggestion! Washington get the paperwork ready!

I actually think they should shorten the term limit to two years especially with this president, Everybody I know was sick of him after a year even the one's that voted for him.

and Peter denounced Jesus 3 times so quickly... humans are dumb...

This president sold America a bill of goods that she is begging to return. Regarding terms of office. I could see a shift to the European way and go off of voter confidence. As far as a two term pres. vs a good one term pres, Mr. Obama you will be neither.

I am really surprised that an libtard would only say 6 years per term... I would have assumed you would have "CROWNED" him king and been done with it... Especially with him spewing that he is not a "DICTATOR" and that he can't institute policies on his own. Wait a minute, I am sure the day dream started and the joys of banishing all of his enemies who disagree with his questionable policy choices overwhelmed him until the drool on his shirt and chin woke him up to reality. It's a funny thing that when you look back at when he was campaigning all of the doubts being raised about him were actually pretty dead on and with his interview with spanish radio, talking about why Hispanics should run in droves to crush there enemies is quite telling........ He is truly a "LIAR" Hope and change you all say??? More like Divide and Conquer...

BHO, so you did hear these words of the guy in the white house that I also heard. As did quite a few others on this vine. I know my post was rather Loud, and I did get bashed by the libs, but I have no regrets for posting my feelings. You were just a little more polite than I was. I also read a post from one of our military vets who is a Republican, and he said he will never forget this remark that BO made.

This guy and his buddy Soros is all about Divide and Conquer. And he is succeeding at this point. We just need to keep sticking together. I believe before long, more and more in this country will realize who the enemy really is.

Take Care.

Alien,

You forgot about Congress. Do the same with themand then they cannot run again for 2 terms. Solves a lot of problems.

Just think, the President would not be spending every waking minute flying all over the country at my expense trying to get Democrats elected.

Grumpy, yes Secret Service protection and costs to fly Air Force one do fall on the taxpayer. If its any consolation however, there are many rules AGAINST using official resources for campaign or political purposes.

http://ethics.house.gov/Subjects/List.aspx?subid=4

Travel accommodations are paid for using donated campaign or PAC funds. Non commercial flights cannot be paid from campaign funds.

http://ethics.house.gov/Subjects/Topics.aspx?Section=101

Most other countries have a very favorable approval rating of Obama. This is because he is trying to use diplomacy. What a concept - try talking before bringing out guns. That is how the military can find serious grounds to respect their leader in chief. Their previous one, if you recall, didn't even send them with basic safety gear. Who would you prefer if you were a soldier. He has also returned dignity to the returning of our fallen soldiors. THey no longer need to sneak them in uner the radar.

First of all, who cares what other countries approval/disapproval ratings are -

Secondly, the only reason why they like him so much is because they know he is weak as a military leader and that he wants us to become socialized. OTHER COUNTRIES WANT THE USA TO FAIL! We are still the benchmark for other countries. Why do they all come to the USA? Why is the USA depended on to bail every country out after natural disasters or massive disease?

Kathy, I watch the news in France, Germany and England everyday... Do you have any idea of the bs they are being fed from mainstream media? I doubt it, why don't you check it out for yourself. I have many friends in France and frequently ask them if they would like obama as their leader,,,,, know what, they all dodge answering my question.... none of them would trade Sarkozy for obama.... and I do not blame them

Ditto, knightranger....Kathy, perhaps you should look into your priorities if you're more concerned about the approval of other countries. And as far as your comment about soldiers, I have to ask, just out of curiosity....do you even know any soldiers? I'm engaged to one, a veteran who served in Iraq, and I would say that his opinion is quite different than the romanticized one that you think soldiers have of Obama.

I don't understand why "other countries" want the USA to fail... I thought it was "Anti-Govenment" that want's the USA to fail... and Jill just cause your related to someone "special" doesn't mean you are.. I'm related to God But I don't think i'm more special then you, you think your more special then Kathy???? My families been through war many times, and I think I'm the least special... So sad when we use our "status" as our overpowering authority. It will hold no grounds when you reach the gates...

What are you even talking about, mellow? I'm not saying that I'm special (I resent your quotation marks, by the way....he IS special, and you should think so, too. He risked his life so you can have YOUR freedom). You made absolutely no point. I was absolutely NOT trying to use my "status" as a soon-to-be veteran's wife as a means to overpower anyone. I was merely curious as to whether Kathy, who seems to know why members of the military should respect President Obama, knew anyone in the military. Why is THAT bad? I just want to know the origins of her statement. It is just as likely that Kathy DOES know a soldier who thinks exactly what she wrote. Thus, I am attempting to engage in discourse with another fellow American. So, please, mellow, try to find a way to make a coherent point. Thanks.

Train wreck that suddenly reversed course right after Obama was elected and even before the Stimulus funds were made available to spend?

Recession ended in Jun 2009, and you credit Obama for it? If it did then whay there was need to drown ourselves in 3.6 tr debt?

No that is what Obama gang wants you to believe. Bush has things going down then but were nto as bad as it is now. How come Bush had a booming economy until 2007 despite 9-11?

What you call train wreck had one of the best UA record of 4.5% UE at its best and had 4.9 trillion GDP growth in 8 years.

He only spent half a tr in debt on average compared to 1.7 tr/yr of Obama.

If you only want to throw out a Obama favorite tag line without using your own sense then you are living in a artificial bubble!

JacQ Facts please,,, Generalities don't work here.

Yes the current regime has done an aweful lot and come 11/2 they will be punished.

I totally agree Jacquie. People seem to forget that Bush had 8 years to cause major damage. He dug our country a massive hole. It would not matter who took over the White House, it is unrealistic to think that the hole would be filled in only two years after Bush did the damage(even 4 years might not be enough to fill in that kind of a hole). To think that President Obama is being accused of not living up to his campaign promises is really disheartening. He told people upfront that the road was not not going to be easy and it isn't but he INHERITED the hole that he is trying to fill in.

I can only assume that the "train wreck" you talk of is the economy.....lets no forget that half of those 8 years were under a house and senate that are controlled by the same people who control it now. We had a booming economy and then Pelosi and Reid and company took over and things eventually went downhill. Guess what guys, they are still going downhill all these years later and the same group of people are still in charge. Bush wasn't perfect, Obama isn't perfect but lets put the blame where the blame is due.....

That being said, the hole that was dug during Bush's reign is still being dug deeper and deeper during Obama's reign. We have spent more tax dollars that have yet to be collected than all other presidents combined. That is scary, we are getting benefits of legislation that have been written but don't pay for for years to come......we are going to recover but then we are going to slide again once it comes time to pay for all this stuff with tax dollars.

The only "train wreck" are the people on this forum (including me, yes yes) .

How come Bush had a booming economy until 2007 despite 9-11?

Why did it end?

I wonder if the housing bubble had anything to do with it? You know, back when your house was suddenly worth 150% more? Cha ching! Lots of granite kitchens to install...dontcha know?

Trouble is, we're paying for it all now...that republican frat party we just lived through sure was awesome, but the cleanup sure is a biotch!

111pct: You may have put this better than anyone else. I enjoyed the analogy, and it is very apt.

Yeah, but they knew if he wasn't elected we'd be wearing turbins and prayin 5 times a day.

What's wrong with Turbins and Prayin 5 times a day... you anti-religion?? Guess your parents couldn't feed you those greens when you were young, maybe praying more might save you.. haha.. to you...

So I guess you didn't have any investments 1n 2008, or remember that freaking TARP predates this president? If a global financial crisis is a "fender bender" to your sensibilities, you're either wayyy wealthier than anyone posting here should be, a kid, or someone who's been couch-surfing the past couple years...

I'd put that crystal ball away if I was you, it don't seem to work. Actually, I am a small business owner that made it through your global financial crisis ok. Would be way closer to back up to speed if Oblamer would have just sat on his hands and did nothing. The UE would be down considerably from 15-20% real #s by now too. Talk about some bad timing. Watch the market the day after the elections. If the dems are ham-strung it will go up, if they keep power, it will go way down. Bet?

jed233,

Be careful. The market has been on a 6 week roll with no meaningful pullback - partly because of earnings, and partly, I think, in anticipation of the elections. You may see selling after the election returns.....buy the rumor/sell the news phenomenon. Just a little market thought.......

I find it hard to believe that anyone who uses the word "oblamer" is really a grown-up, not to mention calling it "MY world financial crisis". Pay more attention in class tomorrow and stop wasting your valuable study time on this site...

Can keep my Co-op on the upper west side? You Obviously don't post here much if you're calling me an arrogant liberal, lol...

Arrogant? Maybe, with the right person...

So slow of wit. so quick to judge

I didn't pick this here snit, you did, remember? And if you took offense to Oblamer being called Oblamer, you are a lib through and through.

No kid, I'm an adult and we don't disrespect the OFFICE of president, whichever PARTY they happen to represent. As to a snit, change one letter , add the word "nosed" and add "kid" and that's what you seem to be to me...:)

P U, jed sure knows how to stink up a room. an unpleasant odor made worse by a distinct lack of grammarical ability. lose the "race to the top," did ye, infant?

I spells like thet so's you highbrow smarties'll read the post. Work's great don't it?

Is this a popularity contest? I think you President should be concerned with saving your economy, creating jobs, making sure this country gets back on track rather than trying to win a popularity contest. What is this high school?? I'm going to need for you rethuglicans to graduate from high school and come join everyone else in the real world. Yes it is tough and brutal but it is reality. Even the most popular people in high school werent always the smartest, brightest, thoughtful or caring, nor did they always do the right thing. Actually to keep their popularity they often had to do things that werent always right. Would you rather your President do the right thing? or do the wrong things to be popular? I also just want people to remember that they are not sheep and they do not have to follow the crowd because everyone else is doing it, just pause for a moment and think for yourself.

And why are you unemployed..over nothing the President has done. Your taxes are NOT going up, especially if you are unemployed, but really they are scheduled to go up for NO one.

The Healthcare Insurance Reform Act was just that. It reforms the ability of ordinary people in need of healthcare to be able to access it. It hasn't kicked in yet, but you will be glad when it does...and it will.

Quit being a negative hater.

PKW-57

You're unemployed? And angry at Obama's "socialism"? Then I suggest you stop taking unemployment benefits. That's "socialist", and part of the "redistribution of wealth" you are so angry at. On Food Stamps yet? Socialist...to help you keep your head above water until you find a new job. Oh, by the way, you ARE looking for a job, aren't you? Or are you just soaking up unemployment benefits?

Good one..

People like PKW really sum up the idiocy and hypocrisy of the tea party. Unemployed, yet probably receiving those same benefits that they often refer to as a 'socialist redistribution of wealth.' Also, the Daily Show, despite being on Comedy Central, happens to touch on more important issues and bring about more intelligent conversations than I have ever heard from the stream of hatred and ignorance spewing from the idiots over at Fox News.

Your unemployed and paying more taxes anyway?

It's JON with no "H" as in humor, something you apparently lack...:)

John sucks

Economist Robert Shapiro looked at Bureau of Labor Statistics data and concluded:

From December 2007 to July 2009 - the last year of the Bush second term and the first six months of the Obama presidency, before his policies could affect the economy - private sector employment crashed from 115,574,000 jobs to 107,778,000 jobs. Employment continued to fall, however, for the next six months, reaching a low of 107,107,000 jobs in December of 2009. So, out of 8,467,000 private sector jobs lost in this dismal cycle, 7,796,000 of those jobs or 92 percent were lost on the Republicans' watch or under the sway of their policies. Some 671,000 additional jobs were lost as the stimulus and other moves by the administration kicked in, but 630,000 jobs then came back in the following six months. The tally, to date: Mr. Obama can be held accountable for the net loss of 41,000 jobs (671,000 - 630,000), while the Republicans should be held responsible for the net losses of 7,796,000 jobs.

Marigold, I'm just wondering if you've considered the fact that the Democrats controlled Congress during that time period you mention? I mean, I get that it's easy to blame it on the Republicans, but what about the culpability of the Dems in office during that time?? You just sweep that under the rug?? None of this is to imply that I don't believe that Republicans contributed to this economic disaster, but I think it quite foolish to discount the role that the Dems played in this mess.

Barney Frank, Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid were the movers and shakers in congress during Bush. Bush actually voiced concern about the Freddie/Fannie meltdown and Barny said, not to worry, like, everything's cool...

mygirl is correct, however this economic downturn was predicted 10 years prior, and neither party acted to prevent it. Then when it was on our doorstep, Bush wanted to do something about it and the democrats (who were in control) were the party of NO. It wasnt until the "train wreck" was inevitable, they agreed to a stimulus. The TARP that everyone complains about was necessary to prevent a complete crash, that is why Obama carried it. For all of those who want to blame one party or the other, it was both parties that took us here and it will take both parties to get us out.

Obama wanted to include republicans in his health care reform, however he did not restrain Pelosi who steamrolled republicans. Also he knew that to get it passed the insurance companies had to be placated, that is why many of you are seeing an increase in rates. Despite what any of you may hear, taxes must be increased to finance this program. The question is how much? The last I heard, everyone's taxes would increase to at least 32% the first year of implementation and would increase incrementally until it reached 37-38% (does not include state tax or social security).

it doesn't up my cost at all, I'm UNION

And oh yeah, do we the people love you unions! Umm Umm. Thanks so much!

I totally agree, Joy Bear is a joke, totally hysterical liberal who throws a tantrum if she doesn't agree or get her way. I've never watched it, never will and her latest fits I think, reflect most of the liberals today... throwing tantrums and screaming insults. Maybe they should look in the mirror, it is because of their actions they are in the predicament they are in now, and THAT is true comedy.

The dumbest group of well paid women I've ever seen.