FLORIDA: "Rick Scott and Alex Sink displayed contempt for each other in their final TV debate Monday, giving a nationwide TV audience a glimpse of the mounting tension in the close race for Florida governor," the Miami Herald recounts. "Three times Scott criticized Sink for smiling or laughing as he criticized her. 'What are you smiling about? You don't care about seniors? Is that the deal?' Scott said, accusing Sink's former bank of ripping off customers... `You're reinventing history,' Sink said. `You've spent a lifetime reinventing the truth, Rick.'"
Did Sink cheat at the debate? That’s what the St. Pete Times’ Adam Smith reports, “If you watched the debate, you may have noted Rick Scott accusing the Alex Sink campaign of slipping her a note against the rules. He's correct. Violating their mutual agreement against notes, Sink makeup artist came in during a commercial break and showed her a phone with a message: ‘The attorney who [w]on the Sykes suit said alex sink did nothing wrong. Tell not to let him keep talking about her.’”
KENTUCKY: Before a Rand Paul-Jack Conway debate, Paul supporters roughed up a MoveOn.org supporter, pushing her head into the concrete sidewalk. One man is clearly seen stomping on the woman’s neck/head. Here's the video.
More from the Herald-Leader: "At one point, violence broke out when Lauren Valle of MoveOn.org approached Paul and tried to give him an 'employee of the month award' from Republicorp. Republicorp is a fake business MoveOn created to symbolize what it says is the merger of the GOP and business interests controlling political speech. Television video shows Valle, of Washington, D.C., being pushed to the ground and at least one foot stepping down on her head."
Here’s Paul’s statement on the incident, per NBC’s Kelly O’Donnell: "We understand that there was an altercation outside of the debate between supporters of both sides and that is incredibly unfortunate. Violence of any kind has no place in our civil discourse and we urge supporters on all sides to be civil to one another as tensions rise heading toward this very important election. We are relieved to hear that the woman in question was not injured."
The Lexington Herald-Leader reports on the debate: “In a spirited debate on statewide and national television Monday night, Democrat Jack Conway and Republican Rand Paul accused each other of misrepresenting their views on issues ranging from civil rights to a national sales tax in their race for the U.S. Senate.”


I'm quite sure the lady is relieved that the pretend doctor did not try to treat her injuries!
My God - is this where our country is headed? Is this the angry electorate? Where is the outrage from Rand Paul? How is it ever okay to viciously attack someone? Where is the outrage from Tea Party women? - I cannot believe this? Is this what they mean when they say "We want to take back our country!"? - This is crazy - I hope all who were involved are criminally charged! This is what happens when you allow people indugle in their baser characteristics.
Civil war, baby~
Screw you. Tho Soros womans plan backfired on her and she got outed, that simple. Tea Party poeple don't need to wear blonde wigs or disguise themselves or deal under false pretenses. You jerks want war just keep on pushing.
Clearly you did not appreciate the sardonic quality of my post. Next time I'll endeavor to make my intent more obvious. Perhaps you'll find it more humerus if I beat you over the head with a bone club?
Wow Tomasco, you are angry. I guess she should be happy you were not there personally. I'm sure you could have stomped out her first amendment rights a lot more effectively with your second amendment remedies.
Obama's foot on the back of small business is causing a lot more pain and suffering.
Bob, here is how I'm interpreting your argument:
Committing violence is okay as long as I don't agree with the politics of the person being harmed.
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but that is basically what you are saying by not condemning the violent act and instead comparing it to policies you are against.
Let's take a step back and remember that at the end of the day we are all Americans. We are each others neighbors, co-workers, family, customers, and so on.
If that man had just applied a little more of his body weight to that woman's head/neck she could have been killed.
I think when something like this happens we need to condemn the act and move on. I don't think it is appropriate to compare it to public policy.
I'm a Rand Paul supporter and I am outraged. This is not what the movement represents and it sickens me.
The lady was wrong about Paul--but this is ridiculous.
Yeah...that tax cut he gave to small businesses really hurt them, didn't it?
The health care law that (amongst other things) forces insurance companies to deal fairly with small businesses really hurts them, doesn't it?
The laws requiring big banks to stop hoarding cash and actually make laws to small businesses really hurt them, didn't it?
It's not small business that is mad at Obama...it's big business!
Jason, you are a man of honor and a patriot. I'm sure we would disagree on a lot of political issues but it is because of people like you that on November 3rd we will all come together again as Americans. As we did on November 5, 2008.
To Tomasco, you teabaggers like to play dressup and wear those Revolutionary War uniforms while hating the democracy that those brave patriots brought us. If you don't like dissent and approve of that jackbooted moron's stomping that woman's head (way to man up teabagger), maybe you should move to a country where such actions are smiled upon. Iran and North Korea come to mind.
Charles,
Yea right.
A Move On moron puts on a disguise to poke a stick at Rand supporters and some jackass reacts and puts a foot on the back of her shoulder. What happened was bad and unacceptable, no one condones it, put him jail, but there's no need for the high school drama queen histrionics. Miss Move On got more benefit than she ever dreamed of.
The media feeds continuous Tea Party/Palin/McDonnel/Rand stuff. None are a party, or elected politicians and have nothing to do with what caused the economy/mess we have.
Point was something to the effect that small business owners are not "smiling" as they tell their story.
Jason,
You are right. That's not what they are about. It is what Move On is about and they won.
Peter,
Welcome back. I don't know where you have been, but get back to us after you have time to catch up. Thanks.
Al,
Grow up or take some Midol.
"Grow up or take some Midol." Hmmm. Misogynistic much?
The "Miss Move On" had every First Amendment right to her form of political protest. She was not there to hurt anybody. Yet someone acted by putting her on the ground and shoving his foot to her head/neck area?? Talk about an extreme reaction to protected political speech.
If this had happened to a Tea Party supporter at the hands of a democrat-supporter, do you really think you'd be making such an argument? If so, then you're just a sickening, violent person. If not, you're a sickening, violent, and hypocritical person. Either way, I imagine you have let down your parents' and possibly your Higher Power (of whatever religion you may belong to) if you happen to belong to a religion.
The whole beauty of being human, and what sets us apart from the rest of the animal kingdom, is that we think about our actions prior to taking them.
Bob, that is not a quote from me. That was from Lauri and I agree that it was overly dramatic.
I still take issue with comparing a violent act to policies you oppose. It helps that you've now come out and clearly condemned it but your original comment really came across as justifying the violent act.
Wow,
Wow that's wierd. I've started comments with wow, but never addressed comments to Wow.
Anyway, misogynistic. Nah. I do hate dropping gender neutral heavy crap on a big toe, though.
There's little more socially loathesome than what happened. Being the "violent person" that I am, that incident would have ended at the time the jackass(s) grabbed her by the face and pulled the wig off.
Speaking of the animal kingdom. She can go to the zoo and tease the monkeys, but when the monkeys throw their crap back through the fence, she's not much of a victim. She probably wouldn't think of that either. In that case, being the "sick person" I am, I'd laugh my azz off.
My parents have actually heard both basic stories (among others about me), the first didn't involve politics and the second was teenagers messing with the monkeys. They were okay with both of my reactions. Thanks for asking. God? I'll find out, but I'm actually sweeting a few other things more.
Charles,
Watching the video, my initial gut reaction is described above. Having said that, I didn't see them trying to hurt her. I saw abuse, I saw dominance.
The expression on her face was not the face of a victim of violence, but of someone that would do it again. It was a face of a new Move On heroine and she knew it.
Probably just me, but it was just all politics anyway.
Have a good evening Wow and Charles.
Welcome to political debate in this environment. With Fox News and right wing talk radio constantly fanning the flames, civilized discourse is OVER.
I'm laughing at the duplicity of you Libs. I wholeheartedly agree that all involved should be punished. That is NOT what the Tea Party stands for. That being said, I can't help but wonder where all this outrage was when a black man was savagely beaten last summer by SEIU thugs outside of a Town Hall meeting for the heinous crime of handing out Gadsden Flags.
Also, is anyone questioning why this woman was wearing a wig and pretending to be a Tea Party/Rand Paul supporter while displaying a sign that a true Tea Party member would NEVER display? Is THIS what political discourse has sunk to?
...would you like to borrow one of my guns? ;)
No thanks, I have my own! ;-)
When did it become fashionable to disrupt a debate? You want political discourse to be civil? Try being civil. Moveon.org is a George Soros created and funded political entity that has been disrupting political debate and discourse since its inception.
To my recollection, this is the precise m.o. the Tea Party used last year to
get their message across. It wan't civil then. Two wrongs don't make a right.
Douglas4517:
You didn't respond. Crickets.
You lie.
Douglas:
Link to facts supporting your claim that Soros and/or Moveon have disrupted any debate. If you don't supply a link, you are hereby exposed as a liar.
@Douglas4517
The only people disrupting the debate was a 6 foot 250 lb man stomping on a WOMANS head.
I didn't see Soros in that video, Did you?
The storm troopers of the Nazi....oops, I mean Tea Party
Ignorant and violent. Great combination!
Lauri-2557316 ... typically this is NORMAL as based on prior AMERICAN (not to mention other nations history around the world) history... clearly you dont know anything about the 60's, not to mention countless other elections prior is were a great many Americans lost their life because of election violence.. there are countless times like the Wilmington Riots during the 1890's, election violence is not even close to a uncommon event.. maybe some political history classes would help you understand and become more knowledgeable about the country you live in.. clearly you have no knowledge of prior AMERICAN HISTORY.
bilweeler..
Do you feel the same way when speakers who are attacked, shouted down, pushed off stages, have urine, feces and countless other things thrown on them? how about the ones dragged from behind podiums because they are speaking about conservative issues? it has happened more times than I could begin to count.. does it bother you when the SEIU Union buses some of its wanna be thugs to Tea Party events and attack people there? or illegal immigration supporters attack them? thats ok right?! you blame FOX lol.. who do you blame for the other side attacking conservatives? you are clearly blind to what both sides do.. American education is remarkable only in that people have diploma's and dont evne know anything about the history of their own nation, they are blind to what one side does while being a"official" monitor of what the other does.. its people like the both of you who dont have a clue that are the very cause of things like this.. you only give attention to one side, while fully ignoring the other... may you receive what you so richly deserve..
It seems narcissism and ignorance is very much alive and well in America on both side.
You have verification of all the claims you are making? Links to news stories on reputable news sites? Or are you just repeating what you have heard on the fear-mongering sites? Please, by all means give us evidence of people being dragged from behind podiums for talking about conservative issues. Please give evidence of such people having feces or urine thrown at them. We would all be interested in seeing your evidence.
So a teabagger stomps on a woman's head and all you can do is blame the SEIU? How pathetic is that?
Nagalfar:
You didn't respond. Crickets.
You lie. Just like Douglas.
So typical for the "teabaggers". Their "we need to get back to the Constitution" which apparently only includes the free speech that agrees with what they believe, as ignorant as they are. And poor Douglas, who posts above, thinks it is Moveon.org interrupting debate, when so many videos have been posted of the right wing nuts not allowing citizens to question their representatives to Congress during the Town Hall meetings held on HCR. God help all of us if these clowns ever get real power. First thing to go? Free speech and freedom of the press. They are too intellectually deficient to be able to tolerate speech that challenges them.
The "We're taking back our country" thugs have clearly exposed themselves for what they really mean by saying, "taking back our country"... they want to take it back from the black man in the white house. This assault at the Rand Paul circus clearly shows their true intentions. Just be careful, the 2nd Amendment is a sword that cuts both ways!
There is not a "black man" in the White House. There is a mulatto 'acting', and really, really badly, as president. This means he is both black and white.
Which means what Paul? Is that the excuse you use for the "teabaggers" so the overt racism they display is not quite so egregious?
So great of you, Pat, to attribute (and exaggerate, i.e., "they want to take it back from the black man in the white house"...how did you deduce that from those reprehensibly violent actions, exactly?), the characteristics of one or two ridiculous Rand Paul supporters to the Tea Party in general. How refreshingly tolerant of you.
It's funny how when the same types of generalizations about Muslims are made, you defend the group as a whole (rightly so), but you are quick to generalize the actions of people with whom you disagree politically.
Well, it would be funny if it wasn't so pathetic.
Pat,
The only one bringing up "racism" is you. Get over it. Since you can't come up with credible arguments you use the race card. Typical!!! (and predictable)
Nagalfar:
And you call me narcissistic? But you hardly know me....
All I did was call out Douglas to prove his statement. Is that so repugnant? To require some PROOF when he made an unsubstantiated opinion appear as a fact?
Grow up and get over it. If you're gonna spout off here, be able to back up your statements.
Oh, and by the way, I'm positive you can back YOUR statement up with facts, right? Link, please, to facts showing that "speakers were attacked," "pushed off stages," and had "urine, feces, and countless other things thrown on them." Also, not just one example here. I want to see "more times than I can begin to count."
Or were you referring to the Tea Party disruptions of Town Hall meetings last summer?
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/08/tea-party-town-hall-strategy-rattle-them-stand-up-and-shout.php?ref=fpa
Those donnybrooks weren't spontaneous. They were a result of a carefully crafted strategy to disrupt the process. By your goons.
Now... that's an intelligent response....not just the typical talking points I hear from numb-nuts (either from the left or right).. keep up the great work.
Tunde:
Thanks...I appreciate the plug.
I hope Nagalfar also notices that I challenged his post without any insulting or derisive language. His use of insults ("narcissism," "ignorance") only devalues his argument.
I notice that he has not responded to my post, nor has Douglas4517. That's typical. Take a cheap shot at your political enemy, then disappear into the ether if you're called out for it.
I'll keep calling these guys out; they'll keep retreating instead of responding.
Bill
Ah come one now, who didn't know that? I don't think anyone with half a brain didn't understand what they meant by "taking our country back". The only problem is, what will they do if they new found majority is not big enough to push Obama away from the warehouse. What the sleeping giant that is the middle America, wakes up and thinks this attitude is unacceptable? I think they're betting on the economy being so bad that people just do not use common sense. They will lose again!
Democrats cheating? ,(yawn), what a surprise, but when you get caught in the act, on television no less, during a debate where only interested and/or undecided voters are watching.......Sink, Sank ,Sunk.
why hasnt anyone asked rick scott if there are too many rules and regulations governing medicare billing, if he were in charge the republicans could do away with all those pesky regulations and just milk Medicare dry. we the taxpayers would just need to put more into medicare so that hospitals under rick scott would receive all that they are entitled to and few billion extra, no big deal
As awful as it is for a supporter of any candidate to physically assault someone with whom they disagree, it's MUCH worse for the candidate himself to not condemn such violence.
Rand Paul should be ashamed. He will be an embarrassment to Kentucky if the voters there elect him. That was really, really bad.
Rand Paul is the one who has yet to refute the claims that he dragged a woman around to some Frat-type event during his college years. It could suggest, though I'm NOT claiming this as fact, that he doesn't care much about violence or violence towards women.
So it takes two teabaggers to beat up a woman. Way to "man up" teabaggers.
Let's see...
You have a doctor that wants to do away with Civil Rights Legislation (Rand Paul) running for the U.S Senate in Kentucky.
You have a man who has had two companies that were/are being investigated for Medicare Fraud (Rick Scott) running for Governor of State of Florida.
You have one woman who doesn't know what the Amendments cover (Christine O'Donnell) running for the U.S Senate in Delaware.
Talk about your "Rainbow Coalition".
SMDH!!!!!!! (Shaking My Damn Head)
That would have been funny, if weren't so true.... makes me sorta sad for the state of the nation. They might as well win with the electorate we're brewing up in this great nation.
It can't be any worse than a sitting Democratic Congressman from Georgia expressing concern during a committee hearing about putting more troops on the Island of Guam because He's afraid it might tip over! Yikes!!!!!!!
J.D,
You counter stupid with stupid? lol... now that's funny....
the congressman from Georgia actually claimed to be delusional due to medications or what-not, and I'll take him at his word; but if this was a continued occurrence then he needs to be kicked out of congress... but you can't say use, they have idiots on the other side as an argument.
But if you choose to use it, I'll say there are a lot more wackos on the right than the left, from my vantage point.
In any event, the craziness needs to stop on both sides. We need to reduce influence of corporate money in our elections... we don't need dummies bought and paid for representing us.
Honest and Fair elections can only be done with federal money (with a cap), so it's fair....
Tunde Akins
Ah, that is a conundrum, How in a representative form of government can we give equal access to both the poor and those whose interests are represented by corporations, along with everyone else in between? Use only federal money? I do believe it has been shown time and time again, absolute power corrupts absolutely,what if those in power, once gained , do not then want to give the funds to the opposition anymore?Then,use only privately donated funds?, a form of free speech, but hardly fair to the poor. I tend to believe we will have to stick to the system we have now, messy as it is, and through eternal vigilance and participation by as many as possible,in as many forms and forums as possible, make it work,...... but, that could just be my meds talking.
WOW.. You people need to get a life and maybe take a physics..lol OBVIOUSLY he is not pushing his head into the concrete~! His foot was on the shoulder of the person, pushing them down. If someones foot is on your back and pushes down for you to stay down, YOU WILL STAY DOWN. this guy didn't step on the persons head. You guys are idiotic!
You need to RE-Watch this if you think that he is stepping on the head of the other person. If you step on someones head, it will not give in as far as it did, meaning his foot was on the persons shoulder blade pushing them down.~!
Oh. Right. I guess that would make it OK then?