Clinton: GOP 'banking on you not thinking'


BALTIMORE -- Former President Bill Clinton thinks that voters need to pay attention to the facts like they pay attention to their sports.

"When we care about something that's really important to us, like football or basketball or the World Series -- some life or death deal like that," he said sarcastically as the crowd laughed, "I mean we know the facts, right?"

"You listen to ESPN talking about the last game in the National or American League baseball playoffs, why, you'd think you're listening to Einstein, the way they go through the facts," he said.

"It's only when something has absolutely no significance to us -- like the economy, the future of our children, the way the nation is going to turn up -- when we say 'don't bother me with the facts I got my mind made up.'"

"You're laughing, but it's true isn't it?" Clinton said.

Clinton's contention is that Republicans have been playing loose with the facts in recent ads, and he wants voters to pause.

"Suppose we think about it," he said. "This crowd," Clinton added, referring to the Republicans, "they're banking on you not thinking. They're banking on some people being so mad that facts don't matter and other people being so apathetic that facts don't matter."

Case in point, Clinton says: "The Republican argument goes something like this," he said. 'Hey, they got the White House and the Congress, and we gave them 21 months to get out of that hole that we left them. And we're not out so throw them out and put us back in. We may not be out of the hole yet but it was a real deep hole. At least we stopped digging."

The former two-term president said Democrats were asking for "four years to get out of a hole the American people gave them eight years to dig." It's only fair, he added.

His other message to Democrats: they need to turn out on Election Day. He cited statistics from the 2008 campaign in which African-American voters turned out in greater numbers than the general populace. And he geared his message to younger voters, calling them "tomorrow's America."

"None of these races would look like they do if tomorrow's America," he said, "the America that showed up in 2008, would just show up in 2010."

The 64-year-old former president also took some time in his remarks for self-deprecating humor, recalling a recent speech he gave to a young crowd at a university, calling himself "ancient history."

"It's kinda like going to the museum, except the mummy's not wrapped yet," he said.

Clinton made these comments in Baltimore, Md., in front of a crowd of hundreds. He was campaigning for Gov. Martin O'Malley, who is in a race against former Maryland governor, Bob Ehrlich. Clinton, a former governor himself, said it was a job he knew something about.

Clinton's visit came a day before early voting begins in Maryland.

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Hello America, since so many have asked for some basics in Economics, I decided to compile "extremes" in Economics 101.

and I will make the definitions brief as possible with those pertinent to 2010, with current imputs from me.

Stagflation: high unemployment, with slow growth, inflation, during the 1980's the U.S. Goverment took money out of the U.S. Economy. This slowed growth plunging the U.S. Economy into a deeper recession.

Recession: is two consecutive quarters (essentially on the stock market) of decline in Gross National Product.

GNP: Gross National Product is the total value of any country's output of goods and services, its productivirty, during any given year. not to be confused with a Global Economic Output or Goverment Spending.

Depression: is a very severe form of a recession, whenever small buisness has slowed, and unemployment has increased, the goverment will try to pump money into the U.S. economy or Stimulate with TARP funds to try and revive it. not to be confused with a World Recession.

Unemployment: the U.S. Labor Department doesnot consider you unemployed unless you have been unemployed less than six months and are currently seeking employment.if you are unemployed and not actively seeking employment you are not considered unemployed, such as the Tent City People.during the late 1980's George Bush Senior, read my lips no new taxes, there was about 6% unemployment in the United States, 7million people looking for employment there was however 1 million people not employed and not seeking employment these were not counted as the unemployed. The State of California currently has 12% unemployment, many of who are illegal immigrants, not included in the percentage are those legal Americans who are no longer seeking employment.

Supply-side Economics: (not to be confused with Global Economics), is the term used for the goverment policy of lowering taxes, so that more money can be invested in small buisness productivity.during the late 1980's George Bush Senior, read my lips no new taxes, used supply-side economics, forcing the rich to pay a larger share of the Tax burden (or Federal Revenue). progreesive democrats such as Bill Clinton cried at the time, that, Growth was purchased at the cost of the highest National Debt in history, goverment stimulation or TARP could again lead to inflation. to fight inflation the goverment uses the Federal Reserve Board to maintain interest rates to small buisnesses.

Federal Deficit: is the gap between or difference between Federal Goverment Revenue from Tax Collection, and Goverment spending. which is not to be confused with Gross National Product. the Deficit in the late 1980's was $155 Billion Dollars, Goverment Spending exceeded Goverment taxing by 3% of the GNP. in 2010 goverment spending exceeds goverment taxing by 100% of the GNP which is $13 Trillion Dollars, in essence by 2020 the United States will effectively be Bankrupt, by its own goverment.

Global Economy: is currently the Economy shared by many of the Worlds Richest Most Powerful Nations, such as China, The United States, The Canary Islands, The Dutch Sandwich Islands, The Bahammas, and Bermuda which have 0% Corporate Taxes, and host the corporate headquarters of such companies as Google, Microsoft (the parent corporation of MSNBC), and other friends of Nancy Pelosi.

Sincerly Fezzy Bear

p.s. technically speaking the folks at MSNBC and the Nightly News are Outsourced employees of The Dutch Sandwich Islands

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Reply#27 - Fri Oct 22, 2010 3:25 PM EDT

Well, Billy, we're counting on the Democrats to remain stupid and stay home. No reason to go out anyway. Dems won't be winning many free rides this year.

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Reply#28 - Fri Oct 22, 2010 3:42 PM EDT

Billy..as you call him was POTUS for 8 years.......what have you accomplished other than to post on a useless thread your dismay over losing the presidency to a black man. no other generation of white people did this happen under, this happened while you had the power to spew your hatred loud enough that everyone with good sense voted for the right person and you can[t take it he is black. your wife more than likely would rather be billy's mistress than your wife.

    #28.1 - Sun Oct 24, 2010 1:39 PM EDT

    Wow Kevin, you can give Clinton credit for everything, he took credit for many things he never did. He took credit for the surplus, but had a Republician congress for 6 of his 8 years. We have seen how when the Democrats have all three branches that they only spend. You have to remember that Obama is only 1/2 black and 1/2 white, I guess you keep forgetting. He can't remember that either. I guess you cannot remember bashing Bush everyday along with the MSM and papers. Strange isn't it. Bush didn;'t start the sub prime mess, Carter did and Clinton took credit for it. The only thing Clinton did and wouldn't take credit for was Monicia. Strange again isn't it?

      #28.2 - Sun Oct 24, 2010 10:47 PM EDT
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      My fellow Americans it's time to face the facts. Every administration digs a very deep hole for the next on-coming administration and history proves that fact. The 2 major political parties in the country create a work environment for each other at the American Tax Payer's expense.

      Bill Clinton had the "Internet Boom" which made millions and millions of dollars for investors and they paid the U.S. goverment tax on their investments which in turn funded Bill Clinton's presidency. And ever since the interent boom there has not been another "Boom" of any industry. However, President Obama and the Democratic Party have tried to create a "Boom Industry" by calling it "Green Jobs". But there has been one HUGH problem, the green jobs are just not there.

      Until the people of America "Wise Up" and start electing and holding political figures responsible for their actions (or non-actions) will this country create another "Boom Industry Revolution"

        Reply#29 - Fri Oct 22, 2010 4:16 PM EDT

        Billy Boy can bite it. He's starting to look more like Billary all the time, and you want to listen to THAT ????

        Sign the petition to IMPEACH Obama now:

        http://www.impeachobamacampaign.com/sign-the-petition/

        Also keep a very close eye on this FILTHY CREEP at:

        http://www.exposeobama.com/

        IMPEACH OBAMA AND PELOSI NOW !!!!!

          Reply#30 - Sat Oct 23, 2010 11:48 AM EDT

          ITS AMERICA............YOU CAN PUSH TO HAVE HIM IMPEACHED YOURSELF. Get your hand off you crotch and run for an office and rise up as did he. then instead of coming off as a whiney baby, you will have the power to do your own bidding. i bet you let your sister fight for you. obama came from nothing and as the least likely candidate in history to become elected, he is now POTUS...........Amercia is still the greatest country in the world. wow you are probably a white guy and you had a better chance than he did and look who is whining and who is winning.

          clearly your life has gone down the tubes under obama and you lost all your money in the stockmarker crash. you lost your home because of obama and have no future. really? reeeeally? no i doubt any of that is true nor is it true of any of us pseudo politico on the web. we mostly fit into the same strata. a bunch of middle to upper middle class americans with too much money to get freebies from uncle sugar but not enough to pay a good cpa to hide for us. so we come to msnbc or newvine and vent our angst to others our ilk as if saying lib or Goper makes us any different on paper or credential. we will show up tomorrow to the same jobs after leaving our quiet little gated community and be no worse for whatever obama does or does not do.

          bill was right, we care more about trivial matter than to vote or heavens me, run like he did and win and like obama and bush did, and win. that makes us losers in some way if we whine so don't whine.

            #30.1 - Sun Oct 24, 2010 2:36 PM EDT

            you still believe in a petition? i bet you forward chain letters hoping for luck to come your way. sign a letter anonomously like a true gop coward. why not go to washington as a senator from your state and work from the inside? why not run against him in 2012, i am sure you can find someone to nominate you since you are obviously more qualified to be POTUS than obama. what a joke. ask others to do for you what you cannot. obama did not ask you to help him , he put his hat in the ring and ran against people like you and beat you. still mad? grown up and run for office.

              #30.2 - Sun Oct 24, 2010 2:42 PM EDT
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              Hey Dems don't support Oblaba, he is the 5th Horseman of the Collapsed

              American Economy riding his horse and waving his Shovel and he has his sidekick

              Don Juan the Pervert, flying Monica's colors!

                Reply#31 - Sat Oct 23, 2010 1:10 PM EDT

                Note how Republicans are quick to use foul language or how quickly they resort to childish name calling? Typical of how those who lack tolerance behave in an un-christian like manner. Is there any wonder the numbers of muslims is on the rise and those around the world find we Americans to be such a divided uneducated classes group of morons?

                  #31.1 - Sun Oct 24, 2010 1:36 PM EDT

                  Wow haven;t you heard Kevin that Obama says America isn't a christian nation anymore. I guess you were busy drinking his kool-aid. There has been more name calling by the Democrats than Republicians, but I guess you tune that out right?

                    #31.2 - Sun Oct 24, 2010 10:49 PM EDT

                    According to our Constitution, varmit, President Obama is correct. That probably tastes like vinegar for you to admit.

                      #31.3 - Wed Oct 27, 2010 2:00 PM EDT
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                      @soldier1....you wrote

                      "If you are a modern day marine, you know as well as I do the Democrat party hasn't done a damn thing for the military. Hell they wan't to shrink it even more. They complain about contractors but yet who downsized it back in the 90's? etc. I can go on for hours about the mistrust the military has for the Dems.

                      -------------------------------

                      Makes perfect sense the military wouldn't trust the Dems, because they're the only ones who are a threat to the military's gravy train, that has seen trillions of dollars spent over decades on military expenditures. Since the Cold War ended 20 years ago, why are we still the world's policeman, and why do we subsidize almost all of the defense of other countries?

                      Do not underestimate what is behind all this. It's the almighty buck. Imagine the mind-boggling wealth that's been amassed by military contractors over many years, at the taxpayer's expense. We had 145,000 troops in Iraq, yet at the same time we had 130,000 private contractors making 3-4x what the US soliders were being paid. Military brass retire regularly from the Pentagon, and are immediately recruited by defense contractors eager to cash in on the Pentagon's gravy train budget. It's a pathway to instant wealth, with their easy connections inside the Pentagon. ("The day I left the military," General Shelton said in an interview at his waterfront home here, "my phone started to ring off the hook.") -

                      http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?id=12433

                      I sure as hell wouldn't want my mega gravy train to be derailed, either, if I had one. Hell ya, the military trusts the Republicans because they guarantee the gravy train. There the ones making out like bandits, too.

                      The money spent on military expenditures has been out of control for decades, and the job can be done with a lot less money. That would mean a lot fewer gravy trains, and those people sure as hell don't want to lose them. Naturally, the distrust of any politician, who wasn't guaranteeing the gravy train, would be high.

                        Reply#32 - Sun Oct 24, 2010 1:03 PM EDT

                        "Jane you ignorant slut............" 

                         

                         

                        Dan Akroyd

                          Reply#33 - Sun Oct 24, 2010 1:32 PM EDT

                          Wow Kevin you are name calling, I guess you are Republician after all.

                            #33.1 - Sun Oct 24, 2010 10:49 PM EDT
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                            In the earnest words of a great american icon............"Jane you ignorant slut..."

                            Dan Akroyd

                              Reply#34 - Sun Oct 24, 2010 1:32 PM EDT

                              dems or rebubs...........usually we are neighbors and work at the same careers, (or jobs). do you stand in the yard spraying eachother with a waterhose and argue like this in real life?

                              are the only lesbians and gay (libs by nature) sons and daughters of dems. do none of you dems have money and degrees on the wall, i do as does my spouse. why do we argue so much on the web like our parties groupies rather than owners? the gop is you as much as the DEMs are a group of people as well. get over it and yourselves.

                              bush did not make anyone take on a home loan they could not afford nor did the banks, no one tells anyone drop out of high school making yourself just about ineligible for a career with bennies (healthcare). I came from a slum as did my spouse, it was choices we made that got us to where we are. people make some dumb choices but need a scapegoat to feel better that it was not their fault. blame bush or call obama some racist name and feel better, then open the window of your trailer so you dont get too hot while i go turn this a/c up a nitch.its chilly and i dont rest well with a full belly when its too cold in this energy star rated mini mansion. i do see you people out there when we have to drive out the gates into your world, we give you money at the gas station and would give anything to have you smell less offensive.......hahahaha i love being a have because i grew up a have not and while you where whining, i worked my tail off. under carter, reagan, bush, clinton, bush, obama and never once have i noticed anyone stopping my rise.

                              ITS AMERICA............!!!! WHY ARE YOU COMPLAINING?

                                Reply#35 - Sun Oct 24, 2010 2:25 PM EDT

                                The president is proud of his record, the record deficit in only 2 years in office. And just so you know the facts. The house is in chagre of all spending by the government. The President approves the budget the he sends to them for approval. I think if we give him a little more time he can sent even more records. Like the first president to bankrupt the country and give it away.

                                  Reply#36 - Sun Oct 24, 2010 2:33 PM EDT

                                  makes you the loser because its your money he is spending. sorta makes him your pimp larry13555. now get back out there on the corner and make him some more money to spend.

                                  me, i voted for him and will give him another 6 years to unscrew the mess he was given to unscrew.

                                  you either man up and run for office.......or shut up and run for cover. lead.......follow........or stfu.

                                    #36.1 - Sun Oct 24, 2010 2:46 PM EDT

                                    Kevin s how soon are you running for office. Obama hasn't done anything he campaigned to do and has done everything he said he wouldn't do. I guess you will straighten him out when you get to Washington.

                                      #36.2 - Sun Oct 24, 2010 10:42 PM EDT
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                                      'Sick Willie" has a point, if you think you will vote against all career politicians. They got us into this mess.

                                        Reply#37 - Sun Oct 24, 2010 6:13 PM EDT

                                        USMC28 You say no one can tell you what the Dems put in place. Did you ever hear of the sub prime mortgage mess? Carter signed it into law, Clinton took credit for it. Senator Obama voted for continuation of it. Barney Frank and Chris Dodd kept it going. What part of that mess don't you understand?

                                          Reply#38 - Sun Oct 24, 2010 10:53 PM EDT

                                          Actually, varmint, that is not true,. it was President Bush that started it by asking the banks and wall street for 'creative' solutions for financing so that more minorities could be come homeowners. It was President Bush that relaxed the income and credit requirements that caused the subprime mess.

                                            #38.1 - Mon Oct 25, 2010 8:11 AM EDT
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