one thing that the NV voters should consider is the value of haveing the speaker of the senate as their senator

another thing is they should wonder where all of the money is coming from and who is buying their senate seat

You know what you are getting with Reid and it is and has always been very ugly. Why not at least try for something better?? If that doesnt work out you can always vote for something better in the future. You really dont want more years of the Reid hate and failure do you.? Vote him in again and the hate and failure is guaranteed. Give something else a chance...

3% IS NOT statistically significant.

Angle and Reid are NECK IN NECK.

I again predict Angel will win.

No angels in the race.

I wonder how much of the $14 million came from out of state?

Angle's public statements and platform are schizophrenic to say the least. Yes her behavior is good for attention grabbing but votes are a whole other thing. Nevadans need stability not not off of your rocker CRAZY. Angle is not some one who is concerned about the general well being of the people of Nevada. All you need to do is type her name in to a search and all you get is almost Nazi like view of her vision of Nevada under her reign. If you think things are bad now? She would put the state of Nevada out like a cigarette. She is more concerned with trying to knock Harry Reid out of office than improving the economy. This is more of a reality show for her and the state of Nevada is her set. Listen to her rants. There is no substance to her platform. She repeats the same old TEABAG rehash of cut frivolous spending and eliminate doing back door deals. REALLY??? Do think Sharon Angle hasa scrupulous bone in her body??? Ask her to divulge where the $14 million came from over the last 30days??? I dont know of many average Nevadans who could afford to put up that kind of money. Not in this economy. It's all from out of state. Why would Nevadans allow some one from out of state control or influence their political future. This isnt a game. This is about families, with children, and eldery loved ones who just want to live with dignity. A VOTE FOR ANGLE MEANS A VOTE FOR THE FAILURE OF NEVADA.

After the debate tonight, she's leading in the polls.

Angle didnt answer one single question with a straight answer. I'm still trying to understand what qualifications Angle has for running for U.S. Senate other than she opposes Harry Reid. Would someone please ask her publically why she is qualified???? I think a manequin has more qualifications and would probably do a better job for Nevadans.

I really do not believe the Democrats want to question the source of Angle's contributions.

Reid would have to reveal his!!!!!!!!!!

I wonder how much of the $14 million came from Koch Industries. Half of it?? All of it?? I can guarantee that Koch Industries didnt make any contributions to the Reid campaign. TEABAGGERS WOULD'NT EVEN EXIST WITHOUT THE KOCH BROTHERS.

90% on Angle's contributions came from out of state,that has already been established

I don't get it, she is the nuttiest of Teapublicons, and she is only behind by 3 points?

What is wrong with Nevada voters?

After all the weird financial stuff that Reid has done, you libs want to make financials the issue???

J.A-522495,

After all the weird financial stuff that Reid has done, you libs want to make financials the issue???

Since you're calling econimics weird...then school wasn't apart of your up bring was it?....aren't you ashamed to have posted this drivel...

Anita...why would you post such nonsense? His questionable loans, deals and financing are well known...except apparently to you. It is tiresome the way that liberals declare their innocence time after time and ignore all the facts. Just do a search. Type "Reid questionable finance" and your computer will come up with numerous shady deals of your hero socialist that likes to cheat and commit fraud...

J.A-522495,

Just do a search Type "Reid questionable finance" and your computer will come up with numerous shady deals of your hero socialist that likes to cheat and commit fraud...

Yea...just do a search...type in Ensign and you'll find this...

Republican John Ensign is the U.S. senator from Nevada who went from being known as an up-and-coming party leader during his first term to a scandal-plagued adulterer halfway through his second term

Then this...

In January 2010, The Politico reported that the Federal Bureau of Investigation was investigating possible criminal violations in connection with the affair.

^{In May 2010, investigators for the Senate Ethics Committeespent several days in Las Vegas interviewing witnesses who had knowledge of Ensign's dealings with the Hamptons.}

^{It was reported in July 2010 that Senator Tom Coburn had assisted federal authorities in their investigation by turning over e-mails, seen as a sign that the official investigation is gathering steam.}

There is plenty more on this one to build quite a case for those self righteous hypocrites...such as you ...and Ensign hasn't even resigned...

But then again...neither has Vitter or Craig...but my bad...only Democrats are suppose to be pristine...

BTW...We are talking about the mob state here...aren't we?...

Ensign: His mother remarried Michael S. Ensign, a gaming industry executive who subsequently became chairman of the board of directors of Mandalay Bay...

Anita...what does that have to do with Reid or this election??? Smoke and mirrors...Our guy has problems, so we will say that others have problems and that makes our guy honest??? Come on....The issue is Reid and his history. That is the subject. Dont try to hide his lies and fraud.

J.A-522495

After all the weird financial stuff that Reid has done, you libs want to make financials the issue???

Yep, might as well get on the bandwaggon with all of the rest of the TEABAGGERS.

J.A-522495,

Sooo...whenever Democrats are in question it's a "major" crime when Angel is another Ensign?...Ensign's chances of getting reelected are as about as the bad a chance as a "snowball in hell has surviving...so what do you people do?...

You throw in Angel...a money grabbing trick and call it all good by attempting to cast Harry Reid as a "questionable" politician....Reid and Ensign worked "well" together for the state of Nevada...I can post that remark for ya...it was made by Ensign...

You don't want me to discuss the infractions of "your guy" yet have a problem with me defending mine?... we are discussing Senator's from Nevada aren't we? typical of hypocrites...

You Tea Baggers are self righteous just as your leader Rush is...the issue is a Tea Baggers that is unqualified to run as a dog catcher and that's Angel....

Anita...The story is about Reid and the role he has played and the crap that he has pulled....I didnt say that I had a guy "your guy". You might just as well have said some negative stuff about any repbulican as to bring up Ensign as an excuse for Reid. I want Reid out because he is one of the worst and proves it time after time for a long time. I would imagine that a lot of dems feel the same way about Reid. Get it? The article and my post is about Reid. If you said murderer Ted Bundy was a republican, it still would have no bearing on what a lousy politician Reid is. Again more smoke and mirrors from you to divert attention away from this failure. Why try to trick the public? You cant make Reid a good guy by trying to change the subject.

J.A-522495,

Political comparisons is what it is and Ensign is a sitting Senator from Nevada that you all don't want to be mentioned right now...
So why attempt to talk about Harry Reid...

What does Angle have to offer other than her "angel" and that is to be a nothing person elected to serve the citizens of Nevada that's sorely unqualified, just as Palin was when she was selected by the GOP to run as Vice President...

Her name suits what her purpose for running is...she's just a nothing politician with an angel to be another nothing voice in Washington hell bent on creating more stale mates that the citizens of this nation do NOT need...

Harry Reid has a proved track record and unless some else comes along that's ready to transition Nevada from being a gaming state with a viable source of Revenue other than gaming, prostitution and tourism (that hasn't happened since it's been a state) then replace Harry...

As for now...he will serve the interest...NOT Angel...

Reid is one of the biggest phonys and failures in politics that we have ever had. I keep remembering him making the statement "the war is lost". he said it because he wished it to be true just so he could needle the Bush administration. Imagine the thoughts that must have gone through the minds of our soldiers when they heard a senator state that the war is lost. No person with integrity would have made such a statement and he did it for the purpose of offering negative politics and put that purpose above the needs of the country and support of our troops. Nothing you can say about others could ever convince me to support this hateful phony.

I don't know about that. I'm a knee-jerk flaming liberal with a long career in the private sector. I've always thought of profit as a good thing. (Pssst: There are plenty of others out there just like me. But don't let it get around. We wouldn't want our liberal friends to know that we want businesses to succeed.)

Then you are one of the few Citizen K. Seems like your fellow brother and sister liberals want all big bad businesses to fail. You might want to come out of the closet and start to speak up. Oh by the way I am not being sarcastic eitherl.

al151998?

I'm a liberal. I don't want all big business to fail.

I want all BAD business, whether big or not, to fail, or at least suffer until they learn how to be a good business. At that point, I don't want to see the business fail, but rather to be successful. After all, otherwise how would anyone (conservative OR liberal or other political persuasion) be able to make a living, buy goods, buy houses? And if no business succeeded, there would be no means to support the military, as that takes a lot of tax dollars. And the roads would all fall apart - unfixed potholes, bridges falling down, etc. Children wouldn't be able to be educated very easily - it takes money for school books to be purchased. Etc., etc.

Capitalism has built the most profitable and prosperous country in the history of the world. But many liberals want to convince us that the failed socialist model is where we need to go.

Except Ray W., we've sold our capitalist soul to the Chinese. See you in a decade or so when we'll all be wage slaves to China...

Clearly you lot don't know your Internet memes.

Ray W.

Capitalism has built the most profitable and prosperous country in the history of the world.

Yes, it did -- in partnership with government. You know, things like the Interstate Highway system and NASA, two undertakings initiated by that infamous "socialist" Dwight Eisenhower. And the prosperity wouldn't have trickled down very far without unions.

The reason America is prosperous is because in general, it has gone with what works, not with any rigid ideology like pure capitalism or socialism.

You know, things like the Interstate Highway system and NASA, two undertakings initiated by that infamous "socialist" Dwight Eisenhower.

2 examples that are falling apart. How about the private sector. I'd take the business model of Gates, Jobs, Ford, etc over those anyway.

NASA can be viewed more as a gov't R&D project than a business. A huge portion of our current technology was a result of them. For it to be slowly dismantled right before our eyes is a shame. Agreeing to the ISS and it's location was a HUGE setback for the program and it was all due to the decisions made by our elected officials. We could hae had a base on the moon for a launchpoint further into space or a station in the "sweet spot" right where gravity is balanced between the moon & the earth that would have given us much more than just reproducing what the Russians and Americans have already done with orbital tin cans.

And the prosperity wouldn't have trickled down very far without unions.

Unions, like gov't officials, have their necessary roles to fill such as workplace safety, etc. It's when they grow too big that they get corrupt and forget they aren't supposed to be protecting Joe Schmoe's job when he keeps falling asleep at work. They have an obligation to make sure they're offering the best labor force to be deserving of the raises they are requesting.

Unions, like gov't officials, have their necessary roles to fill such as workplace safety, etc. It's when they grow too big that they get corrupt and forget they aren't supposed to be protecting Joe Schmoe's job when he keeps falling asleep at work.

Unions and government can be too big. They can also be too small, as in the first decade of this century when government was unable (or unwilling) to prevent corporate parasites from nearly destroying the US economy and then giving themselves big bonuses to award their own malfeasance. And don't blame it on Barney Frank; 50% of subprime loans were made to people who could have gotten safer and cheaper prime loans because the corporate loan sharks got bigger commissions for bamboozling people to take the subprimes.

As for NASA, the R&D it did ended up being enormously lucrative for the private enterprises that figured out how to exploit it commercially.

Casca

THE—dominant issue you need to think about before you go to the polls is illegal immigration. Senator Harry Reid, Barbara Boxer, Gubernatorial candidate Jerry Brown in California and the majority of Lib-Democrats are all ready to pass some form of Amnesty. Illegal Immigration means simply billions and billions of dollars, taken by the IRS to support foreigners. The business who hire them pay zero towards their health care, education for their children and cramming the prison system. Amnesty or a path to citizenship is indeed a very costly proposition and our elected officials don't seem to care. In the Liberal-Democratic ego it just means more votes, never mind that the Heritage Foundation estimates the costs at $2.6 Trillion dollars

Sorry to tell you this but its the republicans who pass the last amnesty for illegals, ronald reagan. he gave 20 million a free pass to citizen ship. so don't give us this lib, bull-sh*t. the immirgration problem has been there ever since.

As a lib, i want the government to send them all back, but the republicans leadership will never let that happen because it depresses wages. to them union people cops, firemen and teachers make way too much. the republican trump card is illegals. for them the more of them the more they depress wages.

our president has said too many times that he will never sign a immigration bill unless they pay a fine, go to the back of the line to become a citizen and most important, LEARN ENGLISH!!!!!!

No wonder some voters are confused...these post are overbearingly long.

Can we make a point without writing a thesis?

Can we make a point without writing a thesis?

Okay, a vote for a Democrat is a vote for amnesty and support for the illegals who will take your jobs.

casca - If the US Government doesn't conform to the wellbeing of the people and--once and for all--seal the border, with the two matching fences as enacted by the 2006 Secure Fence Act the failure to stop the onrush will never end. Reckless politicians must end cutting corners and finish the job across the border region with the double fencing.

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The utter failure of the Virtual Border Fence project contracted to BOEING underscores the fact that although Government can mess up a 2 car parade, so can Private Corporations if not worse.

Cost overruns and the fact that SBInet sensors cannot distinguish between an illegal and vegetation has forced DHS to stop funding and use the money for other effective means of Border Security.

In ordering a reassessment of the project on 8 January, DHS secretary Janet Napolitano said that the delays were unacceptable and that the government needs to consider more efficient and economical options. She did not elaborate. "Americans need border security now — not 10 years down the road," Napolitano said.

http://homelandsecuritynewswire.com/us-mexico-border-fence-hobbled-delays-technical-problems

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2011362012_border17.html?syndication=rss

The above Brain Farts were brought you by decades of sexual frustration...

If Immigration is the most critical issue in this election for someone, they should consider the official Libertarian stance on immigration as they make their choice. As you all know, Rand Paul and many in the Tea Party are libertarians. Or, at least, Rand Paul and his father Ron are, and many Tea Party supporters say they are.

Here is the official Cato Institute position on immigration. The Cato Institute is the country's leading libertarian think tank:

"Immigration should be considered an important source of necessary labor for the American economy. Immigration policies should be revised to allow US based businesses liberal access to both high and low-skilled workers. Immigration control should be focused on securing our borders from terrorists and criminals."

In other words, libertarians don't even believe in Green Cards. Any worker should be free to cross any border to find work. That's not just amnesty, that's super amnesty.

Now that you know, Tea Party, are you still libertarian?

"Harry Reid, Barbara Boxer, Gubernatorial candidate Jerry Brown in California and the majority of Lib-Democrats are all ready to pass some form of Amnesty. Illegal Immigration means simply billions and billions of dollars, taken by the IRS to support foreigners."

Prove it.

"We must also be quick to respond that illegal aliens will vote in November that could impinge on all close races."

This kind of voter fraud is impossible to commit on a large scale. The real vote fraud comes from Con-Repubs who use extralegal means to suppress turnout.

"never mind that the Heritage Foundation estimates the costs at $2.6 Trillion dollars."

This might as well read "never mind that the official policy arm of the Con-Repub party estimates..." Next time, cite an independent, peer-reviewed study and not the underpinnings for Republican talking points generated by a partisan group with a axe to grind. No wonder you guys drove the country into a ditch when you ran the show.

Reid is winning!!!

Except every economist with any respectability or has won a Nobel Prize agrees that the steps taken by the Obama administration to get the economy going saved 15 million jobs and kept the country from going into a full blown Great Depression.

Meanwhile, you and your kind continue to regurgitate GOP platitudes written by hacks on the payroll of billionaires - the Koch brothers who represent Big Oil who bankrolled the entire Tea Party movement and Rupert Murdoch. They know all about the psychology of people like you - sleazing up dog like to the most powerful, no matter what. People who wouldn't throw you a rope if you were drowning. They could care less.

Matthew Bright,

Excellent posting...

Alex - that is by Sulfolk (University Poll) Reid up 3 and PPP (Democratic Pollster) Reid up 2. Rasmussen shows Angle up 2. I would approach polling results this way.

• Favor neutral polls if you can find one - some that proclaim being neutral really aren't.
• Skip the news media version - Often they are done, just to provide backup for a news media position.
• Skip the College version if a neutral poll is available. Thy can be right on today and way off the next day.
• Use the Democrat poll if the Republican is shown leading, the republican is probably actually winning - but not necessarily by that margin
• Use the Republican poll if the Democrat is winning - The democrat probably is actually winning - but not necessarily by that margin.
• Use any poll IF no other is available - compare to past history for the seat

I think that the race range is tied to 3 points in favor of Angle.

DB Akron,

Your reasoning on polls might be correct (or it might be incorrect). One thing you didn't state is that never, ever trust any poll put out by Rasmussen.

He claims he's 'neutral' in his polling, yet the only network he appears on to discuss the polls he releases is Faux News. If Rasmussen polls actually were neutral, he would be on the other networks also. He isn't, because they see through his claims of 'neutrality'.

You are incorrect about Rasmussen. His polls have been the most accurate during the past 10+ years. He has appeared on other networks, but the only reason he has not been on state-controlled media this election cycle (CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, NBC) is the dreadful news for Democrats. Reid will lose in Nevada, a state where I reside. Most people who never vote are going to show up and vote for Angle out of disgust for Reid. Cute how you call it "Faux News." Did you think of that all by yourself? But of COURSE you are right. Why, CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, et al would NEVER be accused of bias for liberals, now would they? Thank God for Fox News. It keeps unhinged liberals like you from getting away with lying all the time.

Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. No matter how long your post is, its still garbage.

Mike in B-more, that is a ridiculous if not a patented lie. Rasmussen has proven to be the most accurate pollster over the last 20 years. They predicted the 2008 election within .5% average across the board. They called the Obama presidential victory in 2008 by .43% in their last poll. Rasmussen has been viewed now as the standard bearer for national polling agencies. Even the pollster for the last two Democratic presidents have called Rasmussen one of the most accurate pollster in the country.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703436504574640973183026230.html

I have also seen Scott Rasmussen in other networks including CNN and CBS News. That is why even Democratic pollster have praised Rasmussen for their accuracy. It is a scientific poll and is very accurate.

THE—dominant issue you need to think about before you go to the polls is illegal immigration.

The things to remember are that Ronald Regan gave amnesty to 11 million illegal aliens. The Bush administration completely ignored the problem for 8 years. John McCain has held every position possible on the subject at various times depending on the political climate of the moment.

Except every economist with any respectability or has won a Nobel Prize agrees that the steps taken by the Obama administration to get the economy going saved 15 million jobs and kept the country from going into a full blown Great Depression.

So, only the economists who praise Obama are respectable? The Nobel Prize going to an economist is a joke. Monkeys throwing darts at the stock section of a newspaper have better results. All of those articles stating "unexpected downturns" should be a clue.

Meanwhile, you and your kind continue to regurgitate GOP platitudes written by hacks on the payroll of billionaires

Is it irony to state this while defending the Congress that has handed the billionaire CEOs a trillion taxpayer dollars? I think so.

Steve, thats not how it works. You don't need half of the voters to win, just more than your opponent.

clarke - I'm pretty sure steve gets your point. The point I think he was trying to make is in a tight election the most energised base usually wins.

Like them or not the Tea Party has been showing up at the polls so you can consider those votes solid.

That's right Clarke, the Tea Baggers are forgetting...America loves parties, but we don't drink a lot of tea...Tea Party candidates are imploding on their own gas. Carl Paladino in NY is the perfect example...just another Tea Partier whose latant racism and homophobia bubbles to the surface as soon ashis campaign gets in a little trouble.

I think a lot of Tea Partiers are going to be unhappy the day after election day...

Clark,

The point is an incumbant in a 2 way Race should have a min of 50.1 percent of the vote going into the last couple weeks of the Election if he has a chance of Winning.. Now.. Reid at 46 percent and Angle at 43 percent. that leaves 11 percent of the vote up for grabs.. Those Undecideds Usually break for the Challenger .. Again Reid is in trouble..

Steve

try reading an article before you post - this isn't a "two person race"....and check out "history" - undecideds don't usually break for the challenger - they usually stay with what they know.- - good, bad or indifferent.

spend a little less time trying to convince yourself that Angle is going to win - she isn't!

Steve

Nevada also has a "None of the above" on the ballot. The candidate with the most votes wins Navada.

Steve, I tend to believe Nate Silver on this issue of incumbents and whatnot:

http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/10/11/incumbents-polling-below-50-often-win-re-election-despite-conventional-wisdom/#more-1983

Look at what he says about the Republicans in 2006:

"...even in the Democratic wave of 2006, 11 of the 12 Republicans who were under 50 percent in the polling with a month to go, but who did hold a lead, managed to hang on for the victory."

Huh. Might want to rethink your stance on this. He's got facts on his side; you've only got your singular opinion.

Jose Von Hussein,

I'm not a poll watcher because of the Presidential election...Nate Silver was the ONLY person that actually had it right and Keith Olbermann was the first person to have Nate on as a guest....

Lawlz..

Keep up the hope Liberals. I can't wait til Election day and all of you Hope and Changers will be crying..

Hope is all the repubs have at this point . The fact is that Reid is winning.

Steve,

You're a wishful thinker aren't you?...too bad...after November you'll be wistful...then y'all are gonna start on the Presidential election...I can hardly wait to see what y'all are gonna run as candidates!

Ra! Ra! ROTFLMAO!!!

Steve...

You really should stop projecting your dreams as a bookable, sure bet, outcome. You've evidently forgotten about the registered Tea Party candidate in NV, Ashjian (remember him...he's the one that Angle tried to get to quit so he wouldn't syphon off potential votes that may have gone to her), and NV also has a "None of the Above" on the ballot as well as some independent party nominees also.

Between Angle and Ashjian, any Republican/Tea Party-minded voter will have to make a choice on just how much extremism they want to support (a good side bet would be who is the saner of the two...we already know it would be very long odds for Angle, but I think Ashjian could be not that far behind her). Seems the Republicans and Tea Party folks in Nevada are working at cross-purposes and that usually doesn't bode well for either. You can't possibly imagine how much it breaks my heart to see them feast on each other...(sniffle).

Anyone not of that mind has probably already decided to either vote for Reid, one of the independent party candidates or "None of Above".

So you see...Steve...there are more horses in this race than just two.

not really man a vote of "none" goes to the incumbent i hope i am wrong though...cause reid has to go !!

Steve?

You state "The Real Problem we see. . . ."

Who is the 'we'?

Are you ASSuming that all of us 'see the problem'? What problem? There is more than one problem - you say 'the real problem', which implies that there are multiple problems, but only one that needs to be solved?

Or is the 'we' a "royal 'we' "? Didn't you learn in civics that the United States is not ruled by a monarchy? And even if we are, who appointed you as monarch?

Every pollster and political consultant of any consequence has said that any incumbent with less than 50% consistently in the polls with 2-3 weeks left is in big trouble. The electorate knows these incumbents and aren't sold on them. Every professional political scientist knows that these undecided voters usually break 4 or 5 to 1 for the challenger. These facts were born out by Dr. Larry Sabato, head of the Political Science Dept of the U of Virginia in a recent interview. Harry Reid is not in good shape at this point.

spend a little less time trying to convince yourself that Angle is going to win - she isn't!

This party attitude is what usually causes losses. Just look at how it went with Scott Brown. How many people stayed at home on voting day because they assumed a traditional Democrat voting state was going to vote that way without them anyway?

Angle isn't the best person for the job, but Reid has already shown the type of politics he favors. The choice comes down to that really.

In the event he does win, he needs to step down as majority leader (assuming they maintain it). He's not allowing representation of all of the voters and trying to run it like there is no other view to represent other than his own. You wouldn't like it if it were the other way around. Scott Brown winning was the only thing that threw on the brakes. Prior to that, he couldn't even get things done with a majority of seats requiring no compromise for Republican votes.

Better than that complete wacko!

Ain't much of a choice, is it? Pretty much the same all over when ya think about it.

Whose fault is it really? Repubs, in their infinite wisdom, picked the only person in the entire state of Nevada who can't beat Harry Reid.

You are wrong, Indy Lib (and probably an obnoxious Indy Colts fan). Angle will win this thing by two points or more. EVERY "tea party" member will show up to vote on election day, and most can't wait for early voting to begin. Many Reid supporters will either be locked up and/or hungover on election day.

We're screwed either way.

I agree Reid has to go, but Angle has always been worthless. Even the most liked state Republican publicly said she has always been weak and too extreme. He also said that he felt Reid should go but felt he was far better than having her in place.

I see the Tea folks fighting over which candidate to choose and hand it to Reid. Chances are they and the Repub's won't learn anything from it either.

As for me, I'm voting for the guy likely to finish 4th or 5th.

Free food, housing, schools, is not welfare?

how they get the welfare etc is come over the border,knock up some other illegal chick and there born in the usa-the kid is then a legal us citezen-suddenly mommy and dadie get welfare food stamps medicaid even though there illegals because of there new baby and then pump out as many as possible there after because they get a huge raise with every kid-plus robo - whitman was fooled by a fake id bet most all the legals have them-if I was here illegal would be a major priority for me to get one,after all means a higher than min wage job,a drivers license socail security you name it, and you see its real easy to fool these smucks until a dem pays them big time to say there illegal to hurt a respectable republican-thats the truth-yours is only the partial truth!! vote tea party were takin america back!!

Also, illegals pay taxes. They pay sales tax, just like everyone. They pay property tax indirectly if they rent an apartment. If they get a fake Social Security Card, they are likely to have income tax and SSI withheld from their paychecks with no hope of getting it back because they can't file a return.

Robt, tell that to California and sanctuary cities across the nation.

robt, you're forgetting one fact: Cancervatives don't care about facts; they've already made up their minds. Oh, and they will simply regurgitate whatever their right-wing nutjobs on the radio and tv tell them to regurgitate, without any critical thinking whatsoever.

Jose, name calling and including no facts in your post is doing exactly what you're claiming others do. I see all kinds of links on posts from the right but few on the left. What kind of "critical thinking" went into your post? Or was it just a hate for all those "white people" as MSNBC described the Tea Party?

Schools get their money from the number of butts in the seat, no matter what their legal status, to the tune of about $5000 per student, varying by state -- if all of those "illegal" kids were pulled out of many districts, they would go broke overnight.

And it's documented that in Sanctuary Cities -- or any cities with a large, recent influx of undocumented workers -- violent crime has diminished. One quick Google search will tell you that. If you bother.

I think you are forgetting the fact is they provide fake documentation i.e. fake social security cards. So the people provide FAKE information to the welfare office etc, in order to get welfare fraudulently. Years ago when I was in highschool, I worked for a large company that employed many illegal aliens. (in the 70s.) They made no effort to hide their status. In fact, when they were told they could no longer work overtime, they simply went and got another social security card, and had the additional pay go to the second number. I know, I saw them, they didn't try to hide the fact you could get a fake ssn card very easily.

Janet-489369,

It is your duty to report Social Security Fraud.

http://www.ssa.gov/oig/public_fraud_reporting/index.htm

If your neighbors are abusing State Assistance, report it. Dont worry about the children the parents will only have to pay back benefits received.

http://www.state.il.us/agency/oig/reportfraud.asp

reality your a true fantasy if you want the true reality see my post 8.2 if you can handle true reality instead of your spoon fed lib lies!! vote tea party were takin america back!!

Yeah, no body cares who you are, you guys are starting to go even or trail in the polls in some important arces...face it...people are getting sick of semi-illiterate, racist, homophobe tea baggers.

I mean honest, who really wants to belong to a movement where your opposition is going to call you a tea-bagger for the rest of your political life?

limburger

the "tea party" isn't taking anything back - good grief - get a grip! all the tea party is guaranteeing is the complete and total destruction of the GOP for 2012...we on the left truly appreciate the effort!

limburger?

Who feeds you the talking points?

SS beck?
O'Lielly?
Manthrax Coulter?
Lush Rimbaugh?
Michael Weiner (aka Michael Savage)?
Rich Iott?
Some other Reich-wing loon?

Jango, it's the intollerant members of the left that are the ones name calling. You're jumping on the bandwagon of people shouldn't be in agreement if they don't want to be called names? What kind of debate is that? And you honestly believe everyone who doesn't agree with Obama politics are racists, homophobes, etc? If you're that easy to convince I have a bridge I'd like to sell you.

limbaughger- You make a valid point about the a narrow margin benefiting Angle but it is highly unlikely that she will have a 10% lead by this time next week or by election day.

Both candidates negatives are just to high. 46% to 47% on election day for either candidate will be the winning number.

Seems to me folks in Nevada would be better off voting "none of the above".

we will see-either sharon wins by ten or less who knows but she will win-who do you want leading your miniority party come november once reid is gone?

Only the dems care. None of my guys ever win (except Bernie Sanders).

limbaugher - That's a great question. I have no idea myself but I hope it is a more moderate Senator.

Yeah, go back in time and tell that to Harry Truman after he beat the pants off Dewey.

If Angle should happen to win, she will be a bigger pain in the rear for the republican leadership than the democrats. She'll never stick with the program, she'll constantly being trying to bring up measures that the leadership knows are too toxic for the American public. And the press will continually be giving her the opportunity to stick her foot in her mouth.

Come to think of it, she may be a democrat plant as a start on the 2012 campaign.

limberger said:

". . . its a known fact if the incumbant leads by less than 5% going in the undecideds go to the challenger"

A 'known fact'? Can you prove it? If it's a 'fact', then it can be proven.

Of course, many people know for a fact that if a person ingests cat or dog hair, the cat or dog hair will turn into worms after they are ingested. For some reason, I suspect that you might fall for that fallacy of a fact if one of the Reich-wingers on radio or television told you it was so.

Not necessarily a known fact, but a small margin of difference charges the voters for the one slightly behind more often. Based on many comments above stating there's no way she would win, how many of those do you think are so sure she'll lose that they won't bother voting?

If you want proof, just look at the actual #s the story is about. http://elections.nytimes.com/2010/forecasts/senate/nevada

Reid was behind by less than 5 points most of the time and it charged the losing side more. Just like in sports, would you rather be the team that pulled ahead by 1 score with a minute left on the clock and be on the defensive or be the team 1 point behind with the ball & nothing but a few people between you and the win?

This is a reliable poll but in a race this close the only one that matters is on Nov. 2.

Back to when? 1954? 1854?

James,

I think a lot of them want to 'take us back' to 1754, or even before.

will comment later and give you your meat but theres a totally new article on msnbc-the dems are pumping in money to save reid-ive switched to that hope to see you libs on that article too-right now your takin a beating-see you there i hope and will answer your question there if you ask again

Cool, I'm not looking for "meat" just an opinion.

Sorry Anita, but Reid's only hope is to get enough union members from Vegas to support him. Most of Northern Nevada is covered with "Anybody butt Reid" signs...

Ultraconservative-547235,

I see that you're borrowing that line fro Rev. Jesse Jackson..."Keep Hope Alive"...or are you remembering that "little Engine That Could"...you know...I think I can...

Harry Reid doesn't need just the Union supporters as you Republicans seem to think that Democrats do...it's a long standing mantra of the Republican Party...

When in reality...the Federal Government (under Republicans) started the "World Union"...that's what their intent has always been...

Talk down unions in American manufacturing...kill it and ship jobs over seas, bring in forgein auto manufactures that have no unions, because the deal was cut in Washington to allow it...

That in turn...cuts the throat of UAW--but little did they know...it became a cancer that spread and killed American blue collar jobs...

It will take more than Northern Nevada to win an election ducky...furthermore...Angel's only angel is squeezing money out of people that are hurting...I don't think that Nevada will allow the bird in the hand to go...get it...

Anita : What a know it all! As if you have a clue what people in Nevada want or need. I have a prediction, the evening of Nov. 2nd...You'll be nowhere to be found.

Ultraconservative?

What % of the population in Nevada is outside the Las Vegas metro area?

I'd bet you'd see more signs for Eric Wargotz in Western Maryland than signs for Barbara Mikulski. Western Maryland doesn't have the population, though, that is in the I-95 corridor, and Mikulski is favored to win the Maryland Senate seat by 25-30% more votes than Wargotz.

The urban areas are full of dump-Reid stickers & signs -- that's Las Vegas & Reno -- but the surprising thing is that in the rurals, where Reid's efforts have kept the counties from absolute disaster, you find support. They know who's helped them save jobs in the last two years, and they may grudge it, but for once they'll vote blue. Nevada vets also know that the reinstatement of veterans' benefits, with new panels re-opening eligibility cases and funding returned to outreach clinics, is due to Reid. Only folks with minds totally blocked by some weird self-hatred will vote to give up the strongest voice Nevada has ever had in the US Senate. Would we really want to wait another 200-odd years to get a Senate Leader? D'oh! Because it sure ain't gonna be Ensign, who is lying low & hoping all his problems will blow over before he's on the chopping block. Wow, really effective government -- Angle and Ensign -- throw in Gov Gibbons & we really will be a laughingstock.

I still don't understand this over-the-top hatred of Reid. He's an intelligent, mild-mannered but strongly principled family man who has voted, for the most part, for his constituency instead of pushing his personal agenda, which I respect in a legislator. Aside from all of this name-calling crap, what incites such loathing? He has a high rating from the NRA and vets, and respects a woman's right to choose. What really is the problem?

Darryn-886129

Anita : What a know it all! As if you have a clue what people in Nevada want or need. I have a prediction, the evening of Nov. 2nd...You'll be nowhere to be found

Whenever you call me I'll be there, whenever you want me I'll be there...I'll be around....(old school tune)...

Oh baby I will reserve a ring side seat! LMAO!!!

Will you?

Anita of Birmingham, why do you insist on confusing people with facts? Yeah, I know, it's tempting. As Einstein once replied to a reporter who told him that at least 100 scientists around the world did not approve of his Special or General Theories of Relativity, he replied: "you don't need 100 scientists to disprove Relativity, just one fact!" Today, we know something as useful as GPS would not work without factoring for Relativity.

A.J. Lehe,

"you don't need 100 scientists to disprove Relativity, just one fact!" Today, we know something as useful as GPS would not work without factoring for Relativity.

Just as this race is being "navigated"...in the full direction of the Democratic Party...

The relative fact that Harry Reid is a viable candidate for the State of Nevada verses a person who's primary goal is to seek an office in hopes of continuing to stall the progress of our great nation that has suffered irresponsible damage from a Party that's running under the guise of a Tea Party?...

I would think that the voters of Nedava has more common sense than Republican, MSM and Tea Bagger give them credit for having...

Hear! Hear! Rove is nothing more than the living disciple of that political horror story, Lee Atwater.

tes37110

Boy, that's a good one Karl: the line from this weekend where you impersonate shock and ask if the President "has no shame"? Karl Rove has NEVER had any shame. He would not understand shame if it bit his considerable Republican ass.

HA!, HA! Rove is our favorite turd blossom...I couldn't agree with you more...

Seems like you Dems and Libs, will do anything to return Backroom Harry to the Senate for him to carry on as before. Same old , same old eh?

JuvenBachan,

Isn't Harry Reid the Senator from "Sin State"? Didn't the mob develop Vegas? Isn't whoring legal? I wonder how many deals did Ensign make?...

I know the answer to all of these questions...DO you?

Win Harry WINNNNN!!!!

Maybe we should not have let South Carolina back into the Union? After all, they elected Strom Thurmond. They first elected him as Senator in 1954, then again and again and again:

1956
1960
1966
1972
1978
1984
1990
1996

But I guess he never felt 'entitled' to the seat? Or did the people of South Carolina elect him time and again because he was a 'welfare elitist'?

And the source for your Reich-wing propaganda is?

BTW - Burris is NOT running for election. And Dorgan is NOT running for re-election. Getting your facts correct would probably help your image a bit, or at least make it a bit more difficult to rebut your Reich-wing male bovine droppings.

seems the only ones disturbed on this vine are the desperate right who are trying to convince one another that Reid will lose....

It's too close to call. Good news for an unknown tea party candidate. Bad news for the Senate Majority Leader. It looks like Tom Daschle all over again.

Consider that a year ago the polls said that ANY GOOPer would have beat Senator Reid by 10 points (at least). Almost everyone had written him off.

Too bad for the GOOPers that they had to wait a year for the actual election, and then nominated a candidate that gave Senator Reid a very good possibility to win the election.

I think you are right. Undecideds normally lean toward the party out of power in the end.

The wave will blow away the incumbents in these close elections.

Have all of you that are against the Obama Healthcare plan forgotten how very hard Harry Reid, along with Nancy, fought for this? I haven't!!