Hillary talks 2008, political civility

From NBC's Andrea Mitchell and Courtney Kube
In the midst of a heated political season back in the U.S., Secretary of State Hillary Clinton spoke about mending political fences during her trip to Sarajevo today.

"We have someone who could never have been elected in my country just a short while ago," she told a group of students and civil society leaders today, adding, "I ran against him, as you know, I tried to beat him, and he won."

Clinton said despite their own battle, after President Obama won, "he asked me to work with him."

"Now in many countries that would still seem like a strange idea -- if you're in a political contest, it should be zero sum game, winner takes all," she said, adding, "but that's not how we see it."

"I'm often asked how could I go to work for President Obama after trying to defeat him, and the answer is simple: we both love our country," Clinton said. She went on to encourage the group to work to develop that same mindset there in Sarajevo.

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"Stop saying I have cankles!"

But seriously, I approve of the message she relayed in Sarajevo.

  • 5 votes
Reply#1 - Tue Oct 12, 2010 12:45 PM EDT

You go girl! Hillary has more smarts and class than all the female republican candidates, or talking hairdos combined.

  • 8 votes
Reply#2 - Tue Oct 12, 2010 12:49 PM EDT

Agreed, Forrest. Can anyone out there seriously picture sending Sarah Palin, Sharron Angle, or Christine O'Donnell (even a few years down the road) to somewhere like Sarajevo - or Korea - or Iraq - to represent the United States of America and meet not just with students and the foreign press but with other world leaders? Seriously? Do you think any of them even know what country Sarajevo is in?

But of course, they aren't running for Secretary of State, are they? So they don't even have to meet with local reporters. But you're right, they all have great-looking 'do's - and apparently for some voters, that's qualification enough.

It would almost be funny if it wasn't so scary.....

  • 2 votes
#2.1 - Tue Oct 12, 2010 2:56 PM EDT

I get a laugh when I think of the translaters trying to convey to a foriegn leader what Palin just said. How do you translate things like"also too" or "you betcha" or "I'm a mama grizly".

  • 3 votes
#2.2 - Tue Oct 12, 2010 3:00 PM EDT

This would be my biggest complaint with Republicans. DO they have any serious female contenders for the White House? Most of the parties leading women are best suited for an hour-show on Fox or XM-radio.

I'm most impressed with Carly Fiorina, who has her issues but at least you can see ( and hear) that she is a serious woman with an opinion and a brain.

If women ever want to break through the 'glass ceiling', they need to stop rallying around the 'popular' and really focus on a real female candidate. I believe that if the Republicans had a serious female candidate positioned, they could have a real shot at success in 2012.

    #2.3 - Tue Oct 12, 2010 4:04 PM EDT

    Pablo,

    Why would a serious contender for the White house have to be a female?? What possible difference does a candidates sex make?? The issues are the issues and have to be dealt with by whoever is given the job, male or female, Democrat or Republican or Independent.

    • 1 vote
    #2.4 - Tue Oct 12, 2010 9:37 PM EDT
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    That is why Hillary's numbers are high. Hillary is a team player and has put the past behind. So PUMAs and divisive right wingers you might want to follow Hillary's advise. Get aboard with loving her instead of hating America and help her prosper. With out the multinational global corporations abroad whose bottom line is to line their pockets and care nothing about American democracy; it's time to vote against greedy, divisive tactics.

    "A house divided against itself cannot stand."

    Abraham Lincoln quote

    • 4 votes
    Reply#3 - Tue Oct 12, 2010 12:49 PM EDT

    Adler-273784

    Beverly, well said.

    I agree totally.

    Thank you, Adler-273784

    We as Americans really need to pull together rather than pull apart. In a time where this country is not at its best, we need to follow Hillary's example; if love of country is to be displayed.

    We do not not need crackpot tea Party candidates, bithers, milita groups, anti- government, conspiracy theorist, or FOX News.

    What amazes me is how Fox Noise can allow this faux constitutalist who live in the days of the Founding Fathers, anti-American/ government to foment as Fox Noise had/ have to continuously conjure up this beast. We don't not need FOX NEWS or whacked out Tea Bagger candidates singing dim- witted praises of themselves which are totally antithetical to American values.

    A very disturbed pupil of Glenn Beck, Byron Williams, is now confessing to his attempted assassination plot.

    To Byron Williams Beck was “like a schoolteacher” who walked his students through a connect-the-dots history of an evil, progressive cabal that has seized ultimate power and now controls Obama. Glenn Beck's blackboard is dangerous

    This wacko, in this case I would say emotionally disturbed, took Glenn Beck seriously and wanted to start a bloody revolution!!!

    http://mediamatters.org/

    What surprises me is that neither FOX nor Glenn Beck has shown any remorse. I purposely watched Glenn Beck, for as much as I could tolerate, to see if Glenn would address this. He didn't; in fact , what I saw was the same hate and fear mongering.

    My question is how many more Byron Williams are waiting to explode including the Tea bagger candidates like Carl Pallido, Cristine O'Donnel and Michelle "I want citizens armed and dangerous" Bachmannn are out there.

    Yes, I mean it when I say we need to come together. In all sincerity it really breaks my heart to see the lengths whacky people are inspired by greedy billionaires and Fox Noise.

    It's bad enough that they [greedy billionaires] bankrupted this country with their deceit and exploitation. But do they need to inspire nut jobs to do their dirty worK?

    • 2 votes
    #3.1 - Tue Oct 12, 2010 2:48 PM EDT

    Let me guess, The Beatles should not have made all those records that caused Charles Manson to have his imbeciles kill all those people? Jodie Foster is responsible for shooting Reagan? Maybe if JFK hadn't been so anti-communist, Lee Harvey Oswald the commie may not have killed him.

    If this Byron Williams idiot were a muslim and learned all his hate at the new Ground Zero Mosque, you'd be calling him a "lone nut" and not affiliated in any way with Islam. Your hatred of Beck is caused by two things only:1) you disagree with his politics. 2) his massive popularity. Ever get tired of being a hypocrite?

    • 3 votes
    #3.2 - Tue Oct 12, 2010 2:55 PM EDT

    Are you saying commercials don't increase sales?

    • 1 vote
    #3.3 - Tue Oct 12, 2010 3:02 PM EDT

    "...What surprises me is that neither FOX nor Glenn Beck has shown any remorse"

    Beverly, when the income is in the millions, you don't 'do' remorse.

    • 1 vote
    #3.4 - Tue Oct 12, 2010 4:27 PM EDT

    Hillary is a has-been. No, better yet, just the wife of a has-been. She will always tout the party line. No independent thinking there.

    I think Meg Whitman should seriosly consider getting into the race in 2012. A woman with real world business experience. Articulate. And after becoming governor of that lost-cause state of California, she will have some fresh ideas to tear down the liberal machine.

    • 1 vote
    #3.5 - Tue Oct 12, 2010 10:14 PM EDT

    Nice, Beverly...

    "We as Americans need to pull together rather than pull apart"

    Then you proceed to tear apart a few companies and people.

    It would be funny if it wasn't so pathetically ironic!

      #3.6 - Wed Oct 13, 2010 11:22 AM EDT
      Reply

      Beverly, well said.

      I agree totally.

      • 3 votes
      Reply#4 - Tue Oct 12, 2010 1:04 PM EDT

      MediaMatters.org
      "Progressive Hunter"

      Jailhouse Confession: How the right-wing media and Glenn Beck's chalkboard drove Byron Williams to plot assassination -

      "I would have never started watching Fox News if it wasn't for the fact that Beck was on there. And it was the things that he did, it was the things he exposed that blew my mind." - Byron Williams

      In an affidavit, an Oakland police investigator reported that during an interview at the hospital, Williams "stated that his intention was to start a revolution by traveling to San Francisco and killing people of importance at the Tides Foundation and the ACLU."

      http://mediamatters.org/research/201010110002

      Rupert Murdoch needs to be investigated. As does Glenn Beck. This is not the first time killers/attempted killers have mentioned Beck as their inspiration for this type of behavior.

      • 4 votes
      Reply#5 - Tue Oct 12, 2010 1:09 PM EDT

      "McCain also proudly celebrated the Republican accomplishments of obstructionism, borrowing a line from his former running mate Sarah Palin. ?You know the President says that, quote, we?re the party of no,? McCain told the tea partiers. ? No, wer'e not the party of no. Were the party of hell no. In his opening remarks, McCain also thanked Fox News for its strong support of Republican causes, endorsing Fox as the best place to get your news."

      ______________

      This country is full of idiots, especially in the GOP. Absolute idiots. No wonder we're in the shape we're in. And SENATOR McCain is one of the worst.

      • 5 votes
      #5.1 - Tue Oct 12, 2010 1:18 PM EDT

      Neither party is rightous. I wish the media would quit speculating, causing the People to vote for the less of two evils. Get rid of the Republic-rats.

      Take our cameras into the voting booth so they won't steal anymore elections!

      • 2 votes
      #5.2 - Tue Oct 12, 2010 1:36 PM EDT

      Was it McCain who said they were the "party of hell no"? I thought it was John Boehner. Maybe they both said it.

        #5.3 - Tue Oct 12, 2010 5:38 PM EDT
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        Democrat laws, rules, regulations, executive orders and spending destroy opportunity, jobs and the economy for everybody except democrat special interest groups

        Identity politics and negative campaigning is ALL the democrats have left this election season

        • 3 votes
        Reply#6 - Tue Oct 12, 2010 1:16 PM EDT

        "Identity politics and negative campaigning is ALL the democrats have left this election season"

        _____________

        Really? Have you listened to the nonsense coming out of O'Donnell, Paladino, Paul, Angle, Palin, Bachmann, Boehner, Cantor? They make no sense. Do you care that all they do is lie 24/7 and have no idea what government is for?

        btw, who's the guy walking around in an "SS" uniform? He's a republican. Pathetic.

        • 4 votes
        #6.1 - Tue Oct 12, 2010 1:21 PM EDT

        Democrat laws, rules, regulations, executive orders and spending destroy opportunity, jobs and the economy for everybody except democrat special interest groups

        Identity politics and negative campaigning is ALL the democrats have left this election season

        lol wut?

        Do you actually LISTEN to Republican campaign ads or are you too busy trying to figure out how to breathe without choking on your own spit?

        • 2 votes
        #6.2 - Tue Oct 12, 2010 1:25 PM EDT

        They did all that in 18 months? No way. The USA was attacked and citizens killed on Bush's watch not Obama's, Bush attacked the wrong country for the wrong reasons and sent more citizens to their death, not to mention the tens of thousands of peolple in Iraq. The trillion unpaid dollars for this alone would make Social Security solvent for years to come or many other useful things could have been funded. We lost jobs at a rate of hundreds of thousands a month under bushes watch not Obama's. The stock market and banking system collapsed under Bush's watch not Obama's. Before Bush left office my retirement portfolio was cut in half under Bush's watch in 18 months it is back to where it was, I guess that is why you don't hear republicans talking about the market. Korea went Nuclear under Bush's watch not Obama's. The government surplus was turned into the largest deficit in history on Bush's watch. The largest increase ever to the socialist medicare program was under Bush's watch not Obama's. I could go on and on. You can rant about democrats and their agenda but the agenda was largly determined by republican destruction of the economy. The fact is nothing terrible has happened under Obama's watch, and terrible things happened under Bush's watch. That is the truth. If you don't like the truth just say so, but it does not change the truth.

        • 2 votes
        #6.3 - Tue Oct 12, 2010 1:41 PM EDT

        Forrest Gump, they Republicans in government and their supporters do know the truth. They just don't care.

        • 2 votes
        #6.4 - Tue Oct 12, 2010 1:44 PM EDT

        Madison From NY,

        Exactly. They can't run on their record and they know it. All the ads from Dems I've heard so far in Nevada are attack ads. Trouble is, people have begun to see through this B.S. It's a lot of Democrat campaign money going to waste.

        • 1 vote
        #6.5 - Tue Oct 12, 2010 11:10 PM EDT
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        Hillary is a class act.

        • 2 votes
        Reply#7 - Tue Oct 12, 2010 1:22 PM EDT

        Yeah. A class-warfare act.

        • 1 vote
        #7.1 - Tue Oct 12, 2010 3:08 PM EDT

        ?

        Actually, I believe Hillary is a class act. Yes during the 08 campaign she used political attacks to try to win against Obama, similar to all politicians. She lost some points in my book with some of her tactics...

        However, after she lost she stumped for him and has been a good Secretary of State. There has been no attempt at usurping Obama with any of her actions or sound bites.

        _____________________________________________________________

        "I'm often asked how could I go to work for President Obama after trying to defeat him, and the answer is simple: we both love our country," Clinton said.

        ____________________________________________________________

        Never was for Clinton in the 08 primaries, but I often wonder what would have happened if Clinton would have won the nomination and won the presidency. No disrespect to Obama, but I would presume that she would have had the ice in the veins to not wobble and compromise on issues that Obama has.

        However, the main idea of the post is about political civility in defeat. Whatever you want to say about Hillary, I will always commend her for dropping out of the 08 primary and giving up on her dream to be president.

        Funny that in this year's primaries there are many Republican candidates that didn't rise above the primary squabbles like Hillary did.

        R Murkoswki refuses to drop out of race with R Miller in Alaska

        R Didier didn't support R Dino Rossi in Washington

        R Castle didn't support R Christine O Donnel in Deleware

        R Ashjian refuses to drop out of race with R Angle in Nevada

        R Crist switched to a faux independent in Florida in lieu of facing R Rubio

        • 1 vote
        #7.2 - Tue Oct 12, 2010 3:44 PM EDT

        What's up to the Real Feisty Redhead. :} Didn't know you had a wannabe redhead poster.

        Will the real slim shady please stand up?

        Cause I'm Slim shady the real slim shady

        All the other slim shady's are just imitating

        So will the real slim shady please stand up, please stand up - Eminem

        • 1 vote
        #7.3 - Tue Oct 12, 2010 4:08 PM EDT

        x

          #7.4 - Tue Oct 12, 2010 4:51 PM EDT

          Hillary is a class act and the most popular political figure in the country, which apparently strikes a nerve with some...

            #7.5 - Tue Oct 12, 2010 4:53 PM EDT

            Yeap.. that feisty's a fake.

              #7.6 - Tue Oct 12, 2010 5:17 PM EDT

              What's up with the Feisty Redhead? I have seen two posts today under her name that couldn't possibly have been written by our Feisty. There is something weird going on here. Is it possible for two posters to have the same name? It shouldn't be. Tyler?

                #7.7 - Tue Oct 12, 2010 5:43 PM EDT

                Yeah, Hillary could be the classroom example for aspiring plastic surgeons on what not to do in a face-lift. A real "class" act.

                  #7.8 - Tue Oct 12, 2010 11:12 PM EDT
                  Reply

                  I heart Hillary.

                  • 1 vote
                  Reply#8 - Tue Oct 12, 2010 1:41 PM EDT

                  Think Progress: About three dozen of the top publicly held securities and investment-services firms—which include banks, investment banks, hedge funds, money-management firms and securities exchanges—are set to pay $144 billion in compensation and benefits this year, a 4% increase from the $139 billion paid out in 2009, according to the survey. Compensation was expected to rise at 26 of the 35 firms[...]

                  ___________

                  This should make the GOP supporters/tea baggers very happy. It's important to them that the corporate world make billions for some reason, while the rest of the country suffers. Health care, education, infrastructure, better schools, unemployment for the unemployed - they don't much care about these things.

                  They only care about the very wealthy in this country. Why, I have no idea. They're getting screwed too. Yet they don't see it.

                  __________

                  I see an ad up here paid for by the Chamber of Commerce. And it asks that you not vote for the Democrat because he supported the auto industry. An industry that was saved and is flourishing. A great story. Yet the Chamber of Commerce is running against it.

                  Just goes to show you how little they care about labor in this country. CEO's are the only ones who matter to the GOP.

                  • 2 votes
                  Reply#9 - Tue Oct 12, 2010 2:29 PM EDT

                  One million 4 hundred and 40 thousand people could have a job that pays one hundred thousand dollars in wages and benefits with that kind of money.

                  Maybe we should destroy unions, lower the minimum wage, and abolish all the regulations that are constraining business so they have a decent chance to make a buck.

                  • 2 votes
                  #9.1 - Tue Oct 12, 2010 2:50 PM EDT

                  Has anyone really looked at people at a tea-party rally. Do they look like rich CEOs to you. Manipulating their millions so all the poor people can starve???? Get real folks.

                  • 1 vote
                  #9.2 - Tue Oct 12, 2010 11:15 PM EDT
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                  CU Farley

                  Let me guess, The Beatles should not have made all those records that caused Charles Manson to have his imbeciles kill all those people? Jodie Foster is responsible for shooting Reagan? Maybe if JFK hadn't been so anti-communist, Lee Harvey Oswald the commie may not have killed him.

                  If this Byron Williams idiot were a muslim and learned all his hate at the new Ground Zero Mosque, you'd be calling him a "lone nut" and not affiliated in any way with Islam. Your hatred of Beck is caused by two things only:1) you disagree with his politics. 2) his massive popularity. Ever get tired of being a hypocrite?

                  CU

                  None of your suppositions make any sense!! I doubt if anyone hates Beck due to his popularity. At least I don't. I really feel much pity that such a sick and possible undiagnosed multiple personality is being exploited to tote water for the billionaire's club with such vitriol and purpose.

                  The hpocrisy is the faux constitutionalist who feign or deny the 1st amendment. But, then again a nutbag Tea bagger and a vindictive Republican party would use any public condemnation as a wedge issue for a win.

                  The GOP?TP tent is really not that diverse at all; is it?

                  • 2 votes
                  Reply#10 - Tue Oct 12, 2010 3:20 PM EDT

                  Hypocrite? lol.

                  Fox News is supposed to be "News". It's all BS. Hate mongering BS. Make all the excuses you want CU. This is not the first time someone has given Beck "credit" for their views.

                  • 3 votes
                  #10.1 - Tue Oct 12, 2010 3:42 PM EDT

                  What's This!?!

                  I thought the teabaggers and GOP didn't like the stimulus? Another lying hypocrite in the GOP:

                  Think Progress:

                  Senator Hatch Complains It Would Be "Idiocy" to Cut Funding For Stimulus-Funded Projects

                  Yet while Hatch is now acting as a strong defender of CUP and warning against the loss of any federal funding of the program, he fails to mention that some of the project’s greatest support came from last year’s stimulus package, as the Salt Lake Tribune noted:

                  The cash also has fueled a $70 million surge in work on the Central Utah Project, further exploiting Utah’s share of the Colorado River with a new pipeline through Spanish Fork Canyon. And stimulus money is paying to remove 2 million tons of Atlas uranium tailings from the banks of the Colorado near Moab — a project delayed for years before the stimulus passed.

                  Hatch, like most of his congressional Republican colleagues, opposed the stimulus bill. He even went as far as to call the bill a “wasteful hodgepodge of liberal spending.” It appears that while Hatch may now be sanctimoniously lecturing others about not playing politics, that is exactly what he was doing when he railed against last year’s stimulus bill.

                  http://thinkprogress.org/2010/10/12/hatch-complains-idiocy-stimulus/

                  • 3 votes
                  #10.2 - Tue Oct 12, 2010 3:48 PM EDT
                  Reply

                  This just goes to show how much class Hillary has. I think she has important work left to do.

                  • 4 votes
                  Reply#11 - Tue Oct 12, 2010 3:35 PM EDT

                  She has absolutely NO CLASS.....She is a joke. She said all the white men in PA were going to vote for her I guess because she slugged a few beers with them. Her sort of husband compared Obama's win in N. Carolina to Jesse Jackson sounding like it was a fluke. She's a fraud and can't be trusted and I would tell her that to her face She is should never be president due to all the questionable actions of hers the last time she occupied the white house

                    #11.1 - Tue Oct 12, 2010 5:13 PM EDT

                    She has absolutely NO CLASS.....She is a joke. She said all the white men in PA were going to vote for her I guess because she slugged a few beers with them. Her sort of husband compared Obama's win in N. Carolina to Jesse Jackson sounding like it was a fluke. She's a fraud and can't be trusted and I would tell her that to her face She is should never be president due to all the questionable actions of hers the last time she occupied the white house

                      #11.2 - Tue Oct 12, 2010 5:15 PM EDT
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                      NBC News dominated the Edward R. Murrow Awards, winning an impressive five awards, including one for Overall Excellence.

                      The Murrow Awards "honor excellence in electronic journalism", and are named for legendary broadcaster Edward R. Murrow.

                      "NBC Nightly News with Brian Williams" won for Best Newscast ('Crash of Colgan Air Flight 3407') and Video Breaking News ('Miracle on the Hudson: Surviving Flight 1549'). The network also won in the Reporting - Hard News category for a "Dateline" report, "To Save the Children."

                      MSNBC's Keith Olbermann won the Best Writing award for his tribute to his mother Marie. "A Baseball Fan Named Marie" aired two days after his mother's death.

                      http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/16/edward-r-murrow-awards-20_n_614666.html

                      _____________

                      How many awards did Glenn Beck receive? Or Fox so-called "News"? None? With THEIR audience? lol

                      • 3 votes
                      Reply#12 - Tue Oct 12, 2010 3:56 PM EDT

                      "I'm often asked how could I go to work for President Obama after trying to defeat him, and the answer is simple: we both love our country," Clinton said

                      ___________

                      If I lost to a teabagger, I wouldn't turn around and support that candidate. They don't love our country. They are trying to drive it into the ditch for their own personal reasons.

                      Money.

                      • 1 vote
                      Reply#13 - Tue Oct 12, 2010 4:09 PM EDT

                      Pat, Boston, MA

                      If I lost to a teabagger, I wouldn't turn around and support that candidate. They don't love our country. They are trying to drive it into the ditch for their own personal reasons.

                      Money.

                      To think Tea baggers and FOX is unworthy disdain is certainly demonstrative a dumb group in our electorate.

                      Some people will cut their noise off to spite their face.


                      Do the less affluent dumb Tea Baggers honestly their cash flow will continue?

                      • 1 vote
                      Reply#14 - Tue Oct 12, 2010 4:38 PM EDT

                      She is a joke. She said all the white men in PA were going to vote for her I guess because she slugged a few beers with them. Her sort of husband compared Obama's win in N. Carolina  to Jesse Jackson sounding like it was a fluke. She's a fraud and can't be trusted and I would tell her that to her face She is should never be president due to all the questionable actions of hers the last time she occupied the white house

                        Reply#15 - Tue Oct 12, 2010 5:12 PM EDT

                        Even though your citation is bogus (please provide the quote/link) she crushed in Pa.

                        http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/state/#PA

                        It was SOUTH Carolina, and that was media spin.

                        You may accomplish something in your life that merits your getting to meet the most popular and respected woman in America some day, at which point you can give her your valuable opinion, and I wish you luck.

                        BTW-Does 2 year old BILE age like wine?

                        • 1 vote
                        #15.1 - Tue Oct 12, 2010 6:35 PM EDT
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                        She is a joke. She said all the white men in PA were going to vote for her I guess because she slugged a few beers with them. Her sort of husband compared Obama's win in N. Carolina to Jesse Jackson sounding like it was a fluke. She's a fraud and can't be trusted and I would tell her that to her face She is should never be president due to all the questionable actions of hers the last time she occupied the white house.

                        She is not the most respected and popular woman today MICHELE OBAMA IS and she didn't have to stand by a serial adulterer to gain our respect !!!! Hillary is a sham !!!!!

                          Reply#16 - Tue Oct 12, 2010 9:37 PM EDT

                          Hey Hellery...we still remember Vince Foster!...remember him?....what really happened?...you can tell us...come on, try something different for a change like, telling the truth...

                          • 1 vote
                          Reply#17 - Wed Oct 13, 2010 7:41 AM EDT
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