O'Donnell: China had 'carefully thought out' plan to 'take over' U.S.

Here's yet another wacky bit of Christine O'Donnell news. Apparently, in a 2006 GOP debate for Delaware Senate, she claimed said she had access to "classified information" that showed China was plotting to take over the United States.

AP:

Republican Senate nominee Christine O'Donnell of Delaware said in a 2006 debate that China was plotting to take over America and claimed to have classified information about the country that she couldn't divulge. O'Donnell's comments came as she and two other Republican candidates debated U.S. policy on China during Delaware's 2006 Senate primary, which O'Donnell ultimately lost. She said China had a "carefully thought out and strategic plan to take over America" and accused one opponent of appeasement for suggesting that the two countries were economically dependent and should find a way to be allies.

"That doesn't work," she said. "There's much I want to say. I wish I wasn't privy to some of the classified information that I am privy to."

"A country that forces women to have abortions and mandates that you can only have one child and will not allow you the freedom to read the Bible, you think they can be our friend?" she asked. "We have to look at our history and realize that if they pretend to be our friend it's because they've got something up their sleeve."

When her opponent challenged her claim about having secret information, O'Donnell suggested she had received it through nonprofit groups she worked with that frequently sent missionaries there. O'Donnell's campaign didn't immediately respond to questions about the comments.

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Okay. She's nuts. What else is there to say?

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Reply#1 - Mon Oct 4, 2010 2:20 PM EDT

Guess they need to send the Good Humor man to see her. She sounds more and more like she delusional.

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#1.1 - Mon Oct 4, 2010 2:35 PM EDT

Whats NEW. John McCain said He knew where BIN LADEN was, this is just Typical Republican BS, trying to get votes & Act like they actually know something, none else does.

I will say that the GOP is Helping China become a SuperPower, right up there with America!

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#1.2 - Mon Oct 4, 2010 3:03 PM EDT

BoZo The Clown did a number on this Child!

Whatelse can be said, besides the Teaparty is Hellbent on Stupidity!

Why else would they nominate these Clowns?

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#1.3 - Mon Oct 4, 2010 3:09 PM EDT

Just love how First Read does these hatchet jobs on Republican candidates but nary a word about that lunatic in Florida, Grayson (D). He takes the cake for being the biggest loon of them all. The man should be in a padded cell. For the life of me I can't figure out how security in the Capital building in Washington allows him to roam the halls. They must have a detail assigned to him and cameras on him every moment. There is simply no telling what maniacal act he will stoop to next. Please Florida, I don't care if you vote in the State bird (Mocking bird) to fill the seat, but get rid of Grayson before he embarrasses Florida and the nation any further. Besides being daffy, the man is an out right liar.And to make matters worse, when he is caught in a lie he lies even more to try and explain himself. Perhaps its the meds or his failure to take them.

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#1.4 - Mon Oct 4, 2010 3:17 PM EDT

What all has Grayson said? Is it on par with O'Donnell declaring she had access to privileged information about an international Chinese conspiracy to topple America?

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#1.5 - Mon Oct 4, 2010 3:19 PM EDT

Okay. She's nuts. What else is there to say?

An awful lot, just keep reading!

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#1.6 - Mon Oct 4, 2010 3:21 PM EDT

I like Grayson. Can't a Democrat use hyperbole? He is obviously saying outrageous things to make a point. The Repubs actually seem to believe their slanders and stupidity.

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#1.7 - Mon Oct 4, 2010 4:35 PM EDT

Just love how First Read does these hatchet jobs on Republican candidates but nary a word about that lunatic in Florida, Grayson (D)

I've noticed that First Read posts actual verifiable statements from the candidates, it isn't the fault of First Read when those statements sound crazy.

I also noticed that while Kevin pours out the insults against Grayson but hasn't posted a single actual verifiable statement to back up his insults. Metninks what really upsets Kevin is that Grayson is a Democrat that fights back!

    #1.8 - Mon Oct 4, 2010 11:13 PM EDT
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    The hit's just keep on rolling with this Tea Party Temptress!!! lmao

    Someone should put together a page a day calendar called Extreme Christianism's!

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    Reply#2 - Mon Oct 4, 2010 2:22 PM EDT

    The pre-op mice are smarter than this dingbat!

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    #2.1 - Mon Oct 4, 2010 2:29 PM EDT

    You're still going to lose 70 seats in the House and 12 in the Senate...so yuk it up over these MSNBC "no news" hatchet jobs.... Hope you enjoy Nov 3rd as much as I will...

      #2.2 - Mon Oct 4, 2010 4:52 PM EDT

      When did quoting people become a hatchet job?

      70 and 12? Not even the most right-leaning forecasts call for that. Put down the crack pipe, dude.

        #2.3 - Mon Oct 4, 2010 5:57 PM EDT

        Uh, dude... I have heard predictions of 80 in the House....dude

          #2.4 - Mon Oct 4, 2010 7:03 PM EDT

          BONG HIT!!!!

            #2.5 - Mon Oct 4, 2010 8:21 PM EDT

            No man, its more than a bonghit. Gotta be acid...bad acid

              #2.6 - Tue Oct 5, 2010 12:42 AM EDT
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              I really don't think that sounds too far-fetched at all. People just don't want to believe in the possibility of bad things. Look at Nazi Germany.

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              Reply#3 - Mon Oct 4, 2010 2:24 PM EDT

              Are you kidding me? Do you HONESTLY think she was privy to this classified info as she claimed?

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              #3.1 - Mon Oct 4, 2010 2:33 PM EDT

              nope, read down my comment to Union Baby

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              #3.2 - Mon Oct 4, 2010 2:39 PM EDT

              Look at Nazi Germany.

              Crissie can see it from her porch!...er....crystal ball?

                #3.3 - Tue Oct 5, 2010 12:44 AM EDT
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                'National Review' had an article several years back that China could island hop across the Pacific and attack the US militarily. And China could bring the worlds economy to it's knees by blockading the South China Sea and cut off all trade. Since many of the worlds computer chips are made in Malaysia and Singapore amd elsewhere in that region, that could screw things up.

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                Reply#4 - Mon Oct 4, 2010 2:25 PM EDT

                Yeah right. With all the satellites, underwater sensors and constant Naval patrols, China could sneak up on us with a huge army and navy.

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                #4.1 - Mon Oct 4, 2010 2:40 PM EDT

                Well they wouldn't sneak. It would be quite overt. Sure it's unlikely, but the military needs to prepare for stuff like this.

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                #4.2 - Mon Oct 4, 2010 2:48 PM EDT

                China would never attack the U.S. We owe them so much cash.

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                #4.3 - Mon Oct 4, 2010 3:30 PM EDT

                King Dave: And when we cant pay them back for all the money we have borrowed then what will they do???? Realistate is cheap now days. They might just say well in tell you pay us back were going to take and hold all your states as Collateral.

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                #4.4 - Mon Oct 4, 2010 4:18 PM EDT

                They don't have the ability to take over Taiwan, much less the rest of the Pacific. Read up on some military journals before you make such ridiculous posts.

                  #4.5 - Mon Oct 4, 2010 6:00 PM EDT

                  Might want to brush up on your history. A smart enemy hits you where you think your safe...

                    #4.6 - Mon Oct 4, 2010 9:23 PM EDT
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                    What else is new? I am still trying to figure out how she became the nominee of ANY party from a great state like Delaware. I saw the Politically Incorrect clip from 1999 showing her stating that before she became a "Born Again Christian" she thought about joining the Hare Krishna movement, but she was part Italian and couldn't give up meatballs. Now that is faith and spirituality for you....

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                    Reply#5 - Mon Oct 4, 2010 2:28 PM EDT

                    juneygabriel & Rob-459463, since you both are aware of this info (and also are most economists and business people) how could this be considered "classified information"? That is the part of this which I consider a lie.

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                    Reply#6 - Mon Oct 4, 2010 2:28 PM EDT

                    fair enough---my comment was more on the possibility of China's intentions, than the credibility of her statement that the info was classified.

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                    #6.1 - Mon Oct 4, 2010 2:34 PM EDT

                    There is a huge difference between a belief that China means us harm and a statement that you have seen proof of their intent to take over the USA.

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                    #6.2 - Mon Oct 4, 2010 2:57 PM EDT
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                    So thats why they were those big sleeves.

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                    Reply#7 - Mon Oct 4, 2010 2:29 PM EDT

                    Republican Senate nominee Christine O'Donnell of Delaware said in a 2006 debate that China was plotting to take over America and claimed to have classified information about the country that she couldn't divulge

                    Oh My Fr***ing God, not another demented, paranoid, tin foil hatter. And these are the people the right wing defend!


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                    Reply#8 - Mon Oct 4, 2010 2:30 PM EDT

                    Maybe John McCain should have selected "Junior Grizzly" as his running mate in 2008. Between his knowledge of how to find bin Laden and her knowledge on China's plans to rule the United States we could have solved all of our international problems by now.

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                    Reply#9 - Mon Oct 4, 2010 2:45 PM EDT

                    I think we should just let RTS addicts dictate our military strategy abroad. Maybe we can hire some professional Korean StarCraft players; they're already terrified of the Chinese as is..

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                    #9.1 - Mon Oct 4, 2010 2:47 PM EDT

                    Plus- look at all the monkeys that would avoid getting a spanking!

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                    #9.2 - Mon Oct 4, 2010 3:34 PM EDT
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                    Hello America, well we know that China has invaded and taken over Shangrala, and the Tibetan Nation, I think thats what the Whole Dahli Lama buisness was about, actually PBS had a special on the search for Shangrila, with travel expert, I don't recall his name, one of the most enlightening and interesting dialoges I have seen in a long time, it included a trip to the Crystal Mountain, and many of the Old Tibetan fortresses and cities. anyway China has always been an agressive nation since the early Dynasties, as for accumulating American technology and top Military secrets I think it was 20/20 that did a News Piece on an Operative from the Pentagon that sold military secrets to a Chinese Spy, also we know that others have contributed to the Conspiracy against America, such as the News Reports of some Airforce Base in Utah sending Nuclear Primors to Taiwan in a shipment of military Parts, when all that had been requested was some Airplane Tires, or some such, and then of course we all remember when Al Gore took a large collection of Cd-Disks with information about Missle Guidance Systems to trade to the Chinese, what we got in exchange we have never been told. sincerely Fezzzy Bear

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                    Reply#10 - Mon Oct 4, 2010 2:47 PM EDT

                    Fezzy Bear

                    of course we all remember when Al Gore took a large collection of Cd-Disks with information about Missle Guidance Systems to trade to the Chinese, what we got in exchange we have never been told. sincerely Fezzzy Bear

                    She got her information about Al Gore from a very skeptical source. So it's understandable.

                    http://media.washtimes.com/media/community/img/staff/2010/mug-tea-party-report_jpg_200x200_crop_upscale_q85.jpg


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                    #10.1 - Mon Oct 4, 2010 3:11 PM EDT

                    Sorry, I quoted the wrong source. This is where she got her info.

                    http://s-ak.buzzfed.com/static/imagebuzz/web02/2008/10/31/17/6961d34da4b4920dc6fb0b0545b14f86_10.jpg

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                    #10.2 - Mon Oct 4, 2010 3:40 PM EDT

                    Hello Concerned Readers, Ok Al Gore His Official Website I guess? httttmicrosoftttttttp://algoresupportcenter.com/chronology.html , 1.) April 29, 1996 Gore attends fundraiser at Hsi Lai Buddhist Temple. He believed it to be a community outreach event. 2.) Nov 24, 1998 3.) August 7, 2003 . htttttttmicrosoftmsntp://www.issues2000.org/Celeb/Al_Gore_Foreign_Policy.htm China,

                    Bush’s division into good vs. evil is Christian heresy Bush offered Americans a way to cut through the complexities of foreign policy by sorting every nation in the world into two simple categories: “You’re either with us or against us.” He described Iraq, Iran & North Korea as the “Axis of Evil.”
                    The day after 9/11, Bush announced, “This will be a monumental struggle of good versus evil, but good will prevail.” Two days later, Bush proclaimed that his “responsibility to history was to rid the world of evil.” I remember being astonished at the grandiosity & hubris of his claim that he could & would “rid the world of evil.” Really?

                    The following week, Bush addressed Congress, saying God had foreordained the outcome of the conflict. Bush’s view of his policies in the context of a fateful spiritual conflict between good & evil does not really represent Christian doctrine. It actually more closely resembles an ancient Christian heresy called Manichaeism, that sought to divide all of reality into two simple categories, absolute god and absolute evil.

                    Source: The Assault on Reason, by Al Gore, p. 54-56 May 16, 2007

                    New security agenda based on addressing global problems

                      We have an opportunity to forge and follow a new agenda for national and world security.

                    • First and foremost, our security is threatened by the global environmental crisis, which could render all our other progress meaningless, unless we deal with it successfully.
                    • Second, there is a looming water crisis that reflects both the sharp growth in demand for freshwater, global warming’s [freshwater supply disruption], and a decline in water quality owing to the effects of pollution.
                      Third, we must conquer the global challenge presented by terrorism, magnified by a growing access to new WMDs.

                    • Fourth, the global challenge of defeating drugs and corruption, which now spill across our borders, has never been more serious given the growing strength and sophistication of international crime organizations.
                    • Fifth, new pandemics like HIV/AIDS are laying waste to whole societies, a problem compounded by the emergence of new strains of old diseases that are horrifyingly resistant to antibiotics.

                    Source: The Assault on Reason, by Al Gore, p.163 May 16, 2007

                    Drought from global warming set stage for Darfur genocide Unbelievable tragedies have been unfolding in the part of Africa near Lake Chad, where genocidal murders have become commonplace in the region of Darfur. The region-wide drought has contributed to the famine conditions that put millions at risk. A little discussed contributing factor to the famine and genocide is the disappearance of Lake Chad.
                    Just 40 years ago Lake Chad was as large as Lake Erie--formerly the 6th largest lake in the world. But now due to declining rainfall and ever-intensifying human use, it has shrunk to 1/20th of its original size. The lake’s dissipation has led to collapsing fisheries and crops.

                    While Lake Chad withered, intense drought set the stage for the violence that erupted in neighboring Darfur, a war-torn region of Sudan.

                    The more we understand about climate change, the more it looks as if we may be the real culprit--the US emits 1/4 of the world’s greenhouse gases. We helped manufacture the suffering in Africa, and we have a moral obligation to try to fix it.

                    Source: An Inconvenient Truth, by Al Gore, p.116-7 May 26, 2006

                    1990s: Joint commission with Russia worked out many problems In March 1993, I got an assistance program I could support: $1.6 billion in direct aid to help Russia stabilize its economy, including money to provide housing for decommissioned military officers, positive work programs for now underemployed and frequently unpaid nuclear scientists, and more assistance in dismantling nuclear weapons under the recently enacted Nunn-Lugar program. The aid package was four times what the previous administration had allocated and three times what I had originally recommended.
                    When Yeltsin and I got together on April 3, we agreed to institutionalize our cooperation, with a commission headed by Vice President Gore and Russian prime minister Viktor Chernomyrdin. The idea worked better than any of us could have imagined, thanks largely to the consistent and concentrated efforts made over the years by Al Gore and his Russian counterparts in working through a host of difficult, contentious problems.

                    Source: My Life, by Bill Clinton, p.506-507 Jun 21, 2004

                    Bush sought to destroy foreign policy consensus The Bush Administration sought to radically destroy the foreign policy consensus that had guided the US since the end of WWII. What they meant by preemption was not the inherent right of any nation to act preemptively against an imminent threat to its national security, but an exotic new approach that asserted a unique and unilateral US right to ignore international law wherever it wished to do so and take military action against any nation, even in circumstances where there was no imminent threat. Source: Speech on Iraq, with MoveOn PAC at NYU May 26, 2004

                    Damage done at Abu Ghraib was serious The damage done at Abu Ghraib is not only to America’s reputation and America’s strategic interests, but also to America’s spirit. It is also crucial for our nation to recognize - and to recognize quickly - that the damage our nation has suffered in the world is far, far more serious than Bush’s belated and tepid response would lead people to believe. Source: Speech on Iraq, with MoveOn PAC at NYU May 26, 2004

                    Policy based on domination creates enemies A policy based on domination of the rest of the world not only creates enemies for the US and creates recruits for Al Qaeda, it also undermines the international cooperation that is essential to defeating the efforts of terrorists who wish harm and intimidate Americans. Unilateralism, as we have painfully seen in Iraq, is its own reward. Going it alone may satisfy a political instinct but it is dangerous to our military, even without their Commander in Chief taunting terrorists to “bring it on.” Source: Speech on Iraq, with MoveOn PAC at NYU May 26, 2004

                    Our future depends on our moral authority to lead Our future is dependent upon increasing cooperation and interdependence in a world tied ever more closely together by technologies of communications and travel. The emergence of a truly global civilization has been accompanied by the recognition of truly global challenges that require global responses that, as often as not, can only be led by the US - and only if the US restores and maintains its moral authority to lead. Source: Speech on Iraq, with MoveOn PAC at NYU May 26, 2004

                    Violation of the Geneva Conventions damaged freedom The Bush Administration has set up the men and women of our own armed forces for payback the next time they are held as prisoners. It will be very hard for any of us as Americans to effectively stand up for human rights elsewhere and criticize other governments, when our policies have resulted in our soldiers behaving so monstrously. The Bush Administration has shamed America and deeply damaged the cause of freedom & human rights everywhere, thus undermining the core message of America to the world. Source: Speech on Iraq, with MoveOn PAC at NYU May 26, 2004

                    Paired evils perpetrated in the name of America Dominance is not really a strategic policy or political philosophy at all. It is a seductive illusion that tempts the powerful to satiate their hunger for more power still by striking a Faustian bargain. To those who shake hands with the devil, they find out too late that what they have given up in the bargain is their soul. One of the clearest indications of the impending loss of intimacy with one’s soul is the failure to recognize the existence of a soul in those over whom power is exercised, especially if the helpless come to be treated as animals, and degraded. We also know - and not just from De Sade and Freud - the psychological proximity between sexual depravity and other people’s pain. It has been especially shocking and awful to see these paired evils perpetrated so crudely and cruelly in the name of America. Those pictures of torture and sexual abuse came to us embedded in a wave of news about escalating casualties and growing chaos enveloping our entire policy in Iraq. Source: Speech on Iraq, with MoveOn PAC at NYU May 26, 2004

                    Gore calls for resignation of Bush foreign policy team Gore blasted the treatment of “helpless Iraqi prisoners” at Abu Ghraib. The abuse Gore said, was not just the fault of low-ranking soldiers, but of the highest levels of the Bush administration. Gore called for the resignation of Condoleezza Rice, George Tenet, and Donald Rumsfeld, along with Rumsfeld deputies Paul Wolfowitz, Douglas Feith, and Stephen Cambone. Altogether, Gore accused the administration of implementing “twisted values and atrocious policies.” Source: Byron York, National Review May 24, 2004

                    Vietnam: Trade will improve human rights & help with MIAs Q: An agreement has been signed with Vietnam that will require that country to protect US intellectual property and open its markets. It makes no demands on human rights. Do you support this deal?
                    A: I believe that we must ratify and fully implement important new trade agreements, and as president, I will insist on and use the authority to negotiate and enforce worker rights, human rights and environmental protections in those agreements. I believe that the US-Vietnam Bilateral Trade Agreement provides important benefits to American businesses and workers, including dramatic new market access for American goods, services, and agricultural products; intellectual property protection; investment protection provisions; and transparency and rule-of-law measures. The treaty also represents an important step in the normalization of our relations with Vietnam, a process which will strengthen cooperation on bringing American POW-MIAs home, promoting religious freedom and combating narcotics.

                    Source: Associated Press Oct 18, 2000

                    Chernomyrdin Commission produced results despite corruption [Numerous agreements with Russia between 1993 & 1998 were discussed via] a channel known as the Gore-Chernomyrdin Commission. Gore has cited the work of the commission as among his signal achievements as vice president and an important part of his r‚sum‚ for the presidency. Some critics in Congress, as well as Governor Bush, say that Gore placed too much faith in his close personal relationship with Chernomyrdin, and that this led Gore to turn a blind eye to strong evidence of corruption. Gore responds that the Commission produced scores of agreements on a wide range of topics in part because of the strong bond between the men. Gore was fully aware of the allegations of corruption against Chernomyrdin, his spokesman said, but he also believed that the prime minister was dedicated to reform and had the clout to cut through the bureaucracy. Gore’s office has produced a catalog of Gore’s achievements in Russia policy: the removal of nuclear weapons, trade deals, the international space station, etc. Source: Analysis of Wake Forest debate, John Broder, NY Times Oct 13, 2000

                    Supported force in Mideast, Balkans, Haiti, not Somalia Q: If you had been president, would any of these military interventions not have happened: Lebanon?
                    A: That was a mistake.
                    Q: Grenada?
                    A: I supported that.
                    Q: Panama?
                    A: I supported that one.
                    Q: Persian Gulf?
                    A: Yes, I voted for it, supported it.
                    Q: Somalia?
                    A: That was ill considered. I did support it at the time. In retrospect the lessons there are ones that we should take very seriously.
                    Q: Bosnia.
                    A: Oh, yes.
                    Q: Haiti?
                    A: Yes.
                    Q: And then Kosovo.
                    A: Yes. Source: Presidential Debate at Wake Forest University Oct 11, 2000

                    Rwandan genocide: no military, but more humanitarian aid Q: What about Rwanda, where 600,000 people died in 1994. Was that a mistake not to intervene?
                    GORE: We did actually send troops into Rwanda to help with the humanitarian relief measures. I think in retrospect, we were too late getting in there. We could have saved more lives if we had acted earlier. But I do not think that it was an example of a conflict where we should have put our troops in to try to separate the parties for this reason. One of the criteria that I think is important in deciding when and if we should ever get involved around the world is whether or not we can really make the difference with military force, [and] if we have allies. In the Balkans we had allies, NATO, ready, willing and able to go and carry a big part of the burden. In Africa we did not. [Hence] I think it was the right thing not to jump in, as heartbreaking as it was. But I think we should have come in much quicker with the humanitarian mission.

                    Source: Presidential Debate at Wake Forest University Oct 11, 2000

                    Haiti: Intervention gave them a chance at democracy In Haiti, we got our troops home as soon as the mission was complete. There are no more than a handful of American military personnel in Haiti now. And the Haitians have their problems but we gave them a chance to restore democracy, and that’s really about all we can do. But if you have a situation like that right in our back yard, with chaos about to break out and all kinds of violence there right in one of our neighboring countries there, then I think that we did the right thing there. Source: Presidential Debate at Wake Forest University Oct 11, 2000

                    Cuba: Hard-liner on Castro; keep sanctions Q. Would you press for the lifting of sanctions against Cuba?
                    A. No, I’m a hardliner on Castro. I still find it incomprehensible that he would release mentally ill criminals, prone to violence, onto an innocent population here in the US. I find his whole penchant for repression and his whole style abhorrent. We have been asking Castro to have elections for a long time [with no response]. Cuba has been moving headlong in the wrong direction. I do not favor any openings to the Castro government.

                    Source: Press Interview in Ohio Oct 4, 2000

                    North Korea: Continue exploring rapprochement Q. What about lifting sanctions on the North Koreans?
                    A. Incredibly enough, we have seen a positive response to initiatives there. The strategy for getting North Korea off its nuclear bent has yielded some tentative positive results. Of course, the jury is still out. We have seen a very emotional beginning of rapprochement on the peninsula. There is clearly a desire to explore the changes that would make it possible for them to have a more normal relationship with the rest of the world.

                    Source: Press Interview in Ohio Oct 4, 2000

                    Russia: US’s abiding interest, but troubled by Putin Q. On Russian president Vladimir Putin?
                    A. I am very troubled by his apparent backtracking on press freedom for Russia in the postcommunist era. I am very troubled obviously by their conduct in Chechnya. We have to put first things first, and recognize that the US has an abiding interest in continuing to manage the nuclear threat, and we should not ever forget that Russia has thousands of nuclear warheads and the delivery systems capable of targeting them on the US.

                    [But we have] all kinds of leverage. We are very deeply involved in helping them construct the institutions of a free society, helping them write their basic contract law, helping them put in place basic accounting standards. We just completed an effort on disaster assistance. The space station, of course, is one of the flagship cooperative efforts. So we certainly have leverage with them, there’s no question about that. And they do listen. They do listen to us. There are limits to the use of leverage.

                    Source: Press Interview in Ohio Oct 4, 2000

                    Russia’s transition is accomplishment, if over-optimistic Gore tried repeatedly to bring well-tested Western solutions--based on laws, rules and carefully ordered process--to a country hurtling through an extraordinarily tumultuous period. Often, Gore’s neat solutions were thwarted or overwhelmed by Russia’s messy march toward a market democracy.
                    Gore has said the major accomplishment of the administration is that “we have worked hard to help Russia make a transition to a market-based democracy.” He has also cited Russian acquiescence in NATO expansion, cooperation with Russia in the Balkans and the creation of additional safeguards against nuclear materials theft.

                    But critics, including Bush, have charged that the administration was overly optimistic about what could be accomplished & that it turned a blind eye to the underside of Russia’s economic transformation. When Gore recently called for “forward engagement” with Russia, one of Bush’s top foreign policy advisers countered that engagement has to be “in a realistic way, not a romantic one.”

                    Source: David Hoffman, Washington Post, p. A1 Jun 4, 2000

                    Africa: give the poorest countries a hand up Gore also pledged to “give the poorest countries a hand up” by fostering economic engagement with Africa, the Caribbean and the Americas, as well as assisting them through debt relief. Gore called for the United States to enlist the cooperation of the European Union to help rebuild the economies of Africa as a means of creating a lasting peace. Source: Press Release on speech in Boston Apr 30, 2000

                    Chechnya: Keep aid that helps US; cut off aid that helps war Q: Why is your administration not willing to do anything truly tough toward Russia despite the brutal war in Chechnya?
                    A: As a matter of fact, we have. We have opposed new IMF provisions. There has been no direct state-to-state aid for more than a year now. Now, particular programs that go toward dismantling nuclear warheads, you wouldn’t want to cancel that. Particular cooperative ventures where no companies or the state agencies involved are implicated in any of the activity in Chechnya or in proliferation activities, that’s a separate matter. But we have, in fact, enforced a real cutoff of a lot of forms of aid.

                    Source: Democrat Debate in Manchester NH Jan 26, 2000

                    Mantle of leadership means responding to violence abroad We’re the natural leader of the world. I don’t think that’s a chauvinist American statement - I think it’s a statement of fact. People respect us as Americans because we’re a brave people, we try to uphold high values and standards, and so the rest of the world does look to us. They want the kind of freedoms and prosperity that we have. We have to accept that mantle of leadership, and when there is terrible violence in the rest of the world, we have to pay careful attention to it. Source: Democrat Debate at Dartmouth College Oct 28, 1999

                    Supports New Security Agenda and Third-World debt relief

                      Gore was one of a handful of hawkish Democrats who voted in favor of the Gulf War in 1991. His speeches emphasize traditional balance-of-power questions, such as arms control. But he also has a fondness for the “new security agenda” - issues that affect the security of states and the stability of regimes, but which are immune from traditional diplomatic or military pressure. As president, he would:

                    • resubmit to the Senate for ratification the Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty (CTBT), rejected in 1999
                    • would campaign for further increases in the defense budget
                    • will urge Congress to grant more debt relief for developing countries
                    • is prepared to engage in humanitarian interventions abroad
                    • treats missile-shield idea with some caution, and would negotiate both revisions to the ABM treaty and cuts in nuclear missiles with Russia
                    • would ratify the Kyoto accords on climate change

                    Source: The Economist, “Issues 2000” Sep 30, 2000


                    Al Gore on China

                    To union: we disagree on China; but agree elsewhere Gore made his case yesterday for the China trade bill to union workers. “I know that one of your legislative priorities is to urge members of Congress not to support permanent normal trade relations with China,” Gore said. “You know that I don’t share that view. I strongly support normal trade relations with China because I believe it is right for America’s economy and right for the cause of reform in China.” George W. Bush has accused Gore of reticence on the trade issue. The Bush campaign was so certain that Gore would say nothing about the impending House trade vote in his union address that they issued a statement one hour earlier saying, “Before union audiences, his support disappears.” But Gore faced the difference of opinion head on, if not too enthusiastically. Reading from his text in even tones to a silent audience, Gore said, “I respect the depth and strength of your feeling, but I’m also proud that on other great issues, you and I stand together - virtually on all of the other ones.” Source: Sandra Sobieraj, Associated Press May 22, 2000

                    Do not reveal strategy and inflame China or Taiwan Q: Would you commit American military power to defend Taiwan?
                    A: The last 4 presidents in both political parties have purposely refrained from spelling out the details of what would trigger a direct military action by the US in the Taiwan Straits. That ambiguity is not due to a failure to think it through, it is due to a considered judgment that we do not want to give the hotheads on either side of the Taiwan Straits an ability to drive circumstances toward American involvement for their own purposes. Source: Democrat debate in Los Angeles Mar 1, 2000

                    Engage China, but demand respect for human rights Q. Over the course of the Clinton administration we’ve seen a marked deterioration in our relations with both Russia and China. To what do you attribute this decline?
                    A: In China I think that we need to demand the respect for human rights and religious freedom. But bringing China into the community of nations, fostering peace between China and Taiwan and engaging them in a way that furthers our values, I think that’s in our interest.

                    Source: Democratic Debate in Durham, NH Jan 5, 2000

                    Diplomacy with both Taiwan and China Q: How do we balance defending Taiwan, against the many business interests that want favored trade status with China? A: We don’t want to embolden the hotheads or hard-liners on either side of the Taiwan Straits. Some kinds of missile defense systems are well within the bounds of the relationship. Others are not. I think the kind of diplomacy that has pushed both sides toward a peaceful resolution of the long-standing problems that they hav Source: Town Hall Meeting, Nashua NH Dec 18, 1999


                    Al Gore on Internationalism

                    Gore supports vigorous intervention abroad; Bush less so In his debate performances, interviews and speeches on foreign and economic policy, Gore has repeatedly portrayed himself as a man who has come to believe in vigorous American intervention abroad, a reversal of Democratic philosophy for most of the time since the end of the war in Vietnam.
                    He describes how the experience of seeing the Clinton administration move too slowly to end the killing in Bosnia drove him to conclude that America must be prepared to prevent disaster, and how two successive global financial crises reshaped his understanding of the central role economic stability must play in the foreign policy agenda.

                    Bush, on the other hand, has woven a middle ground between two battling factions of his party - internationalists who support engagement with great powers like China and isolationists who are deeply suspicious of the United Nations, the International Monetary Fund and the World Trade Organization.

                    Source: David Sanger, NY Times Oct 30, 2000

                    The world is looking to US for leadership Q: Do you think the U.S. is meeting its responsibility to the world?
                    GORE: One of the big issues that doesn’t get enough attention is corruption in official agencies like militaries and police departments around the world, customs officials. That’s one of the worst forms of it. We have to lead by example and help these other countries that are trying to straighten out their situations. This is an absolutely unique period in world history. The world’s coming together. They’re looking to us. Are we going to step up the plate as a nation the way we did after World War II, the way that generation of heroes said, O.K., the United States is going to be the leader. And the world benefited tremendously from the courage that they showed in those post-war years. I think that in the aftermath of the cold war, it’s time for us to provide the leadership on the environment, leadership to make sure the world economy keeps moving in the right direction.

                    Source: Presidential Debate at Wake Forest University Oct 11, 2000

                    The power of example is America’s greatest power Our greatest national strength comes from what we stand for in the world. It is a great tribute to our founders that 224 years later this nation is now looked to by the peoples on every other continent and the peoples from every part of this earth as a kind of model for what their future could be. Even the ones that sometimes shake their fists at us. As soon as they have a change that allows the people to speak freely, they’re wanting to develop some kind of blueprint that will help them be like us more: freedom, free markets, political freedom.
                    The power of example is America’s greatest power in the world. And that means, for example, standing up for human rights. It means addressing the problems of injustice and inequity along lines of race and ethnicity here at home because in all these other places around the world where they’re having these terrible problems when they feel hope it is often because they see in us a reflection of their potential.

                    Source: Presidential Debate at Wake Forest University Oct 11, 2000

                    Nation-building: preferable to WWIII, and a stunning success Q. Bush made nation-building a point of difference with you [in the Oct. 3 debate].
                    A. I think that phrase taps into a legitimate concern about how far we should go and how long we should be involved. But it’s not a new mission. The Marshall Plan was about nation-building. And the generation that won World War II, having seen the catastrophe of the interwar period in the 20’s and 30’s, wisely decided that nation-building was a preferable alternative to World War III. And it was a stunning success.

                    Source: Press Interview in Ohio Oct 4, 2000

                    UN treaties are effective means for US to help Third World Gore said that agencies of the United Nations “offer the US an effective means of doing our fair share to alleviate suffering in some of the most miserable corners of the globe.” On treaties not signed by the United States, Mr. Gore gave unequivocal support to the Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Discrimination Against Women, the Convention on the Rights of the Child, the Law of the Sea Treaty and the Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty. Source: Barbara Crossette, NY Times Aug 20, 2000

                    New Security Agenda: keep old; build new; avoid isolation
                      Gore’s New Security Agenda is based upon three principles:

                    1. CONTINUING THE CLASSIC SECURITY AGENDA: Gore pledged to build upon our key alliances; to continue helping Russia make a transition to a market-based democracy; and follow a policy toward China that is based on results, not rhetoric.
                    2. BUILDING A NEW SECURITY AGENDA: Gore recognizes that “threats that were once local can have consequences that are regional and global.” America must address these global challenges with “reinvigorated international and regional institutions,“ and by ”confronting threats before they spiral out of control.“
                    3. RESISTING NEW-ISOLATIONISM: Gore warned of the equally dangerous threat of retreating within our borders and ignoring our leadership position in the world. Gore criticized Bush for his antiquated perception that Russia & China are primarily present or future enemies. Instead, Gore said, we must engage both countries and assist them in their transformations while being clear about our concerns. Source: Press Release on speech in Boston Apr 30, 2000

                      Strong defense for world leader; tie defense to other issues Starting with his own voluntary service in the US Army during the Vietnam War, Al Gore has stood for a strong national defense, and an America that leads the world toward peace, freedom, and prosperity, for his entire career. Gore has been a key player in American foreign policy for more than two decades, often serving as a critical direct channel to world leaders at times of conflict. As a member of President Clinton’s national security team, Gore has played a role in almost every critical foreign policy decision of the past six years.
                      At the same time, Gore has been a leader in promoting the free trade, free markets, environmental protections, and fundamental human rights that are crucial to America’s leadership in the world. “A strong economy, a clean environment, and peace & security do go hand in hand,” says Gore. “As we move beyond the age of bipolar tensions and sharp ideological conflicts, nations are finding the wisdom that grows from our common values.” Source: Gore campaign statement on election2000.aol.com Jan 1, 2000

                      Intervention requires national interest, by our values Q: What principles would you use to distinguish cases that require US action and those that do not? A: I think that we were right to go into East Timor. I thought we were right in Kosovo and Bosnia. I think we were tardy, frankly, in Rwanda. We have to have a national interest. We have to be willing to accomplish the goal. We should have allies to help us, but our national interest should also be defined in terms of our values. And ethnic strife is important to address. Source: Democrat Debate at Dartmouth College Oct 28, 1999

                      Pay UN dues, as leader of the world We ought to pay our UN dues, as a leader of the world. Source: Democrat Debate at Dartmouth College Oct 28, 1999

                      Progressive Internationalism: globalize with US pre-eminence.Gore adopted the manifesto, "A New Agenda for the New Decade":
                      Build a Public Consensus Supporting US Global Leadership
                      The internationalist outlook that served America and the world so well during the second half of the 20th century is under attack from both ends of the political spectrum. As the left has gravitated toward protectionism, many on the right have reverted to “America First” isolationism.

                      Our leaders should articulate a progressive internationalism based on the new realities of the Information Age: globalization, democracy, American pre-eminence, and the rise of a new array of threats ranging from regional and ethnic conflicts to the spread of missiles and biological, chemical, and nuclear weapons. This approach recognizes the need to revamp, while continuing to rely on, multilateral alliances that advance U.S. values and interests.

                      A strong, technologically superior defense is the foundation for US global leadership. Yet the US continues to employ defense strategies, military missions, and force structures left over from the Cold War, creating a defense establishment that is ill-prepared to meet new threats to our security. The US must speed up the “revolution in military affairs” that uses our technological advantage to project force in many different contingencies involving uncertain and rapidly changing security threats -- including terrorism and information warfare.

                        Goals for 2010

                      • A clear national policy with bipartisan support that continues US global leadership, adjusts our alliances to new regional threats to peace and security, promotes the spread of political and economic freedom, and outlines where and how we are willing to use force.
                      • A modernized military equipped to deal with emerging threats to security, such as terrorism, information warfare, weapons of mass destruction, and destabilizing regional conflicts.

                      Source: The Hyde Park Declaration 00-DLC12 on Aug 1, 2000 sincerely Fezzy Bear

                      #10.3 - Mon Oct 4, 2010 4:56 PM EDT

                      of course we all remember when Al Gore took a large collection of Cd-Disks with information

                      People still use CD's? Wow

                        #10.4 - Tue Oct 5, 2010 12:45 AM EDT
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                        Thank God for the Tea Party. Despite the best efforts of the MSM to save them from themselves. They are the gift that keeps on giving. It would be really interesting to have one of the pundits ask DeMint if O"Donnell still has his full support.

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                        Reply#11 - Mon Oct 4, 2010 2:48 PM EDT

                        They're coming to take me away, ha ha, they're coming to take me away.....

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                        Reply#12 - Mon Oct 4, 2010 2:57 PM EDT

                        ..to the funny farm where is life is beautiful all the time...

                        loved that song as a child. Still true today!!

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                        #12.1 - Mon Oct 4, 2010 3:38 PM EDT

                        "They're coming to take me away, ha ha!"

                        Dr. Demento was my favorite thing on the radio. I'll have to track down some of those songs. "Transfusion, transfusion..."

                          #12.2 - Mon Oct 4, 2010 4:41 PM EDT
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                          The only thing she ever read that was classified was the "classified ads". I too have clearance from the state department to read the ads that are classified.

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                          Reply#13 - Mon Oct 4, 2010 2:57 PM EDT

                          Maybe one of those ads was for Miss Cleo and that's how she knows.

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                          #13.1 - Mon Oct 4, 2010 2:59 PM EDT

                          That was too funny Da Noid! A course on wishing it so? LOL!

                          Miss Cleo, she must have been psychically plugged in to the Jamaican/English connection...her resume, did you hear that one, said she attended Oxford University!!!:o ...now how is that? Did she go over on some invisible imaginary alternative-reality flying carpet to attend one of the world's most prestigious and difficult to get into universities?

                          Ummm...There is no record of any Christine O'Donnell graduating from Oxford University in the UK GB, oh, for those who do not know tenth grade geography, that stands for the United Kingdom of Great Britain or more simply known as England. The only thing I can figure is that this must have been one of those phony "get your day dreamy visioning degree on-line at Oxford Pretend U." places???

                          The CV of Christine O'Donnell has a major flaw or two apart from the dubious nature of the various so called "jobs" with no salaries or undeclared remuneration, and that is her education. Both Oxford and Claremont have no record of a student called Christine O'Donnell... In Britain, to lie about whether you were an Oxford graduate is grounds for public scorn and ridicule and certainly political suicide...

                          Christine O'Donnell - LinkedIn
                          http://www.linkedin.com/
                          View Christine O'Donnell's professional profile on LinkedIn. LinkedIn is the world's largest business network, helping professionals like Christine O'Donnell discover inside connections to recommended job candidates, industry experts, and business partners.

                          Now, after all this hoopla about politicians over-hyping themselves, and several of both parties are doing so lately in the heat of rallying speeches and debate on the campaign trail, not to mention the ad attacks, who is doing the Embellishing??? Hmmm??? Waiting for her explanation of this one...it goes beyond a little rationalization or stretching of the truth. LOL!

                            #13.2 - Mon Oct 4, 2010 10:52 PM EDT
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                            Not sure why the MSM keeps digging up stuff on O'Donnell. Maybe that's all they got. Not sure whats the fascination. If she is guarantee to lose, why spend so much resources? Regular voters have tune this out. This is only entertainment for liberals.

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                            Reply#14 - Mon Oct 4, 2010 2:58 PM EDT

                            It's simple.

                            Christine O'Donnell, despite this being her third run at being Senator from Delaware, is a political neophyte. Much as she would like to talk about the future and what she would do if elected, we are still learning who she is.

                            Candidates still matter.

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                            #14.1 - Mon Oct 4, 2010 3:20 PM EDT

                            John-1888246

                            Not sure why the MSM keeps digging up stuff on O'Donnell. Maybe that's all they got. Not sure whats the fascination. If she is guarantee to lose, why spend so much resources? Regular voters have tune this out. This is only entertainment for liberals.

                            Annoying; ain't it? The righties still wanna know "Who is Barack Obama?"

                            Can you say double standard?????

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                            #14.2 - Mon Oct 4, 2010 3:24 PM EDT

                            John1888246: "Not sure why the MSM keeps digging up stuff on O'Donnell. Maybe that's all they got".

                            Or could it be that that's all SHE'S got? What's her plan to fix the economy? How about Afghanistan? Iran? Healthcare reform? Immigration? Anything???

                            Oh, I forgot - those are them pesky "gotcha" media questions, aren't they?

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                            #14.3 - Mon Oct 4, 2010 4:03 PM EDT

                            The MSM isn't digging things up (they are far too lazy to do that), Bill Maher is releasing them once a week unless she comes on his show. Funny stuff.

                              #14.4 - Mon Oct 4, 2010 4:43 PM EDT

                              Exactly. Entertainment for the liberals and the moderates too, much laughter and all, even has Mr. Rove concerned...oh by the way, here's some more of that wonderful entertainment, not from Maher this time...but directly from Miss O'Donnell.

                              http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036677/ns/msnbc_tv-countdown_with_keith_olbermann/#39510761

                                #14.5 - Tue Oct 5, 2010 12:28 AM EDT
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                                Um, China is in fact wanting to take over the United States...it is a known fact in the Military.

                                In their 1999 seminar treatise entitled, Unrestricted War: China's Master Plan to Destroy America, Colonels Qiao Liang and Wang Xiangsui state that in order for China to become a dominant global power over the United States, "The Final War over Resources," must be successfully concluded.

                                Though this could be easily blown off as People's Liberation Army hyperbole, a closer look at the facts shows us that the United States is in a very vulnerable position on a number of fronts with China. And so with it, is the U.S. dollar.

                                As long time readers of the OI news know, the resurgence of gold and the fall of the dollar have a multiple factors working together. Going forward into 2005, China's "final war for resources" will be a key factor in the further depreciation of the greenback.

                                The U.S. government has been keeping a lid on the brewing problems with China because of the delicate situation which has the Chinese central bank holding billions in U.S. dollars and treasury bonds which Washington fears they might sell.

                                China has been instrumental in helping the U.S. government bank roll its deficit and consequently, this reliance on the Chinese to support the U.S. debt has the government up against a rock and a hard place. This problem is made worse each day by the huge trade imbalance favoring the Chinese economy.

                                The U.S. dollar reserves of China's central bank soared 271% to $449 billion from 2000 to April of 2004. And while they have been filling their coffers with the greenback their balance of trade with the U.S. is also building. The trade deficit with China last year was a record $124.1 billion and this year, it's increased a further 28%.

                                Meanwhile, the United States is financing its ever ballooning budget deficit, which is projected officially to be $521 billion in 2004.

                                Zhu Min, general manager and advisor to the President for the Bank of China was quoted in the China Daily earlier this year saying that: "The United States is benefiting from China using its trade surplus to buy U.S. Treasury paper as a reserve currency, along with other Asian nations. But in the long run, this is not sustainable.... China will focus more and more on domestic demand, which is growing fast. Then we won't be able to finance the U.S. deficit."

                                And now that's what's happening. China is reportedly selling off their hoard of U.S. dollars to help build their much needed infrastructure and spend heavily to secure global resources.

                                A United Nations report points out that China's recent prosperity has raised the living standard of 160 million Chinese who once existed in poverty. Behind them are another 800 million who are awaiting their turn to live a life once thought unattainable. The demand of goods and services from this group means an even greater global demand for resources.

                                The desire of China to tie up resources has been evidenced by China Minmetals Corp. who had been in exclusive talks with Noranda, one of Canada's largest mining companies, in an attempt to buyout the company for an estimated $7 billion.

                                There was tremendous opposition to this plan however. Canadians argued that the Chinese government's strategic interests in securing mineral supplies, and its management methods, could be contrary to the interest of Noranda, its workers, and the communities where it operates mines and processing facilities.

                                Some opponents to the deal also cited U.S. Congressional hearings that alleged that Minmetals has profited from forced labor from Chinese prisons.

                                But this is only one bid of many which has China trying to lock up global resources.

                                Very troubling for the United States is the fact that China has negotiated a new oil supply deal with Iran which would see Iran receiving both arms and cash. China has long standing alliances with Iran and is searching for new energy reserves to drive its booming economy. This new deal with China is not only an agreement to buy oil and gas from Iran but also to develop Iran's Yadavaran oil field. After this field is developed, Iran will export 150,000 barrels of crude per day to China. This agreement has been valued at $70 billion.

                                China's demand for oil outpaced its supply capabilities in 1993. China is now the world's third largest importer of crude after the U.S. and Japan and their demand is growing. From January to October, China imported 99.6m tonnes of crude oil, exceeding the 91m tonnes imported in the whole of 2003, said reports quoting the General Administration of Customs. Imports of crude oil in 2004 are expected to reach 120m tonnes, the second largest in the world after the US.

                                Demand for electricity is also on the rise in China. Despite record production of coal and a 15% rise in power generation over the first 10 months of the year, dozens of Chinese cities suffered brown-outs during this past summer. And this winter it looks like many will be left without heat for extended periods. The China Daily reports that Beijing has only 50% of the coal it needs this winter, while Jilin has stores of 40%, half the level of this time last year.

                                So the multi billion dollar question is what happens when China starts selling U.S. dollars to help expand their infrastructure and secure their resources?

                                Well you're already seeing it. Interest rates go up, the dollar goes down, and gold takes flight upwards. Not to mention upward pressure on oil, gas, coal, copper and other key commodities.

                                The implications of this fact are staggering. And demand for commodities will be overwhelming. Insightful investors who can see this trend and position themselves now in growth oriented equities holding gold, oil, copper and other key commodities will be sitting pretty if a few years time and will have weathered the U.S. dollar collapse better then most.

                                This is the hugest threat to the U.S. economy right now yet it's hardly ever mentioned by the mainstream media.

                                Given the strong economic growth of China and the uncertain purse strings it holds on U.S. dollars and treasury bonds, I can't help but wonder how this might tie in with their aggressive militaristic actions lately.

                                Last week a Chinese nuclear powered submarine cruised into Japanese territorial waters in an apparent test of Japan's will to enforce its own sovereignty. At stake here are under water natural gas riches in the East China Sea very close to the border of Japan's economic zone. The government of Japan is worried that China may try and tap into gas pools within their jurisdiction.

                                One fact which doesn't sit well with the Bush Administration is that U.S. intelligence reports claim China's military provided training to both the Taliban and al Qaeda. Though U.S. officials are at a loss to explain why the Chinese provided this training some analysts believe it was an attempt to gain influence over these terrorist groups.

                                Given China's need for commodities, its human rights offenses, and their hawkish military actions one must wonder if the Chinese government really has a detrimental agenda for America.

                                The writings of People's Liberation Army Colonels Qiao Liang and Wang Xiangsui, state that the aggressor nation "must adjust its own financial strategy, use currency revaluation or devaluation as primary weapons, and combine means such as getting the upper hand in public opinion and changing the rules sufficiently to make financial turbulence and economic crisis appear in the targeted country or area, weakening its overall power, including its military strength. Whether it be the intrusions of hackers, a major explosion at the World Trade Center, or a bombing attack by bin Laden, all of these greatly exceed the frequency bandwidths understood by the American military... "

                                Conclusion

                                U.S. dollars and U.S. bonds are under pressure. The budget and trade deficits are hitting new highs on a regular basis. The U.S. economy is in an unbelievable no-win situation where the Fed is damned if it raises interest rates and damned if they don't. This situation is unsustainable and it's unrealistic to believe their will be a painless solution.

                                It's a given that China needs more of every commodity. To what means they will take to get them remains to be seen.

                                Regardless of the unknown factors, the facts we are aware of support the premise that in order to protect yourself, diversification into gold, oil and other key commodities makes good sense not only to profit but help keep your wealth intact in the face of a depreciating dollar.

                                Bill Ridley

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                                Reply#15 - Mon Oct 4, 2010 3:00 PM EDT

                                What I don't understand is why Russia would want to sell Natural Gas to China for? historically they have been at odds, the Russians say that it is to prove to western Europe that they are not the only buyers of Russian Petroleum goods, could it be that there is actually a conspiracy by China to take over Russia? I mean taking over Russia would make more sense than taking over the United States, all we have left in resources is the 10 million barrels of oil floating around the gulf coast.

                                  #15.1 - Mon Oct 4, 2010 3:17 PM EDT

                                  Where did you get this classified info?

                                    #15.2 - Mon Oct 4, 2010 3:18 PM EDT

                                    Paranoia springs eternal.

                                      #15.3 - Mon Oct 4, 2010 4:24 PM EDT

                                      Hooey.

                                        #15.4 - Mon Oct 4, 2010 4:46 PM EDT

                                        I could never figure out why Tricky Dicky opened up this Pandora's Box back then...

                                          #15.5 - Thu Oct 7, 2010 2:13 AM EDT
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                                          This just in: Tea sales are up dramatically across the country! RE Christianity: Einstein was a nut too-he said: " science without religion is inept and that he was driven by wanting to know the mind of God"! It's called intelligent design for a reason! Sin City as a mission statement isn't working out too well in Vegas folks see all/any data!

                                            Reply#16 - Mon Oct 4, 2010 3:01 PM EDT

                                            Media still letting O'Donnell ride on unverified claim that her dad played Bozo the Clown on TV.

                                            http://www.stinque.com/2010/10/02/exit-right-to-funway/

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                                            Reply#17 - Mon Oct 4, 2010 3:19 PM EDT

                                            I didn't know Alan Grayson was her father!!!!

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                                            #17.1 - Mon Oct 4, 2010 3:48 PM EDT

                                            Kevin-500221

                                            I didn't know Alan Grayson was her father!!!!

                                            That's where you're wrong; it's bozo follow the link.

                                            http://www.stinque.com/2010/10/02/exit-right-to-funway/

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                                            #17.2 - Mon Oct 4, 2010 3:52 PM EDT

                                            I case you didn't know, Bozo retired and Grayson took his place. Only he didn't have a tv studio to go to because the show was cancelled. So the Dems, as part of the failed stimulus program, decided to give him a job in Washington. Now he entertains us alll regularly with his Bozo act from the floor of the House.

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                                            #17.3 - Mon Oct 4, 2010 4:01 PM EDT
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                                            davidgomeznm

                                            Okay then it’s fair to say like father; like daughter; thanks.

                                            http://www.stinque.com/2010/10/02/exit-right-to-funway/

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                                            Reply#18 - Mon Oct 4, 2010 3:33 PM EDT

                                            She got the Bozo gene!

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                                            #18.1 - Mon Oct 4, 2010 3:41 PM EDT
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                                            A world war is brewing (if it hasn't unofficially started already, since we are still at war with 3 countries) Christine Odonell is right.

                                            The only thing that she is wrong about, is that CHINA doesn't need to come over here to take over the U.S. All it has to do is stop matching its YUAN to the U.S. dollar, and then allow it to naturally inflate.Then they convince the world to get off of petrodollars, which they will because they are tired of the artificial value of petrodollars and the mount of u.s. debt tied to it, and down goes the U.S. And all the people who say we live in luxury, look around you.

                                            We lost 80% value in the U.S. dollars since the 1920's. In just 10 years, food prices have doubled. About 80% of Americans have very little savings, and the housing crisis just deflated most of our mortage/real estate assets. We are 20 trillion dollars in debt (possible more that hasn't been reported), with 3 wars and 100's of bases still being funded yearly. (I say 3 because we are now having operations in PAKISTAN, a nuclear country mind you).

                                            And oh yeah, the U.S. doesn't own any money. The Federal Reserve owns the money. And the Federal Reserve is a corporation, not beholden to the U.S. except for one chairperson. And they getting impatient, since all they care about is the bottom line. And when they decided to selll America, and they will, it will be a liquadation sale on the U.S. All the property you thought you owned, gone. THIS ISN'T a conspiracy theory, THIS IS REAL. CNBC talks about (or the jist of this nightmare scenario) constantly, along with other economic papers if you are able to read economic language. Economist and Historians have already seen this coming 20 years in advance.

                                            You people sit hit barking about some man in the Middle Eastern desert, or some religion no one knows about make me sick, because you don't relize your own country is being sold right under you. And it doesn't matter whether you are democrat or republican, because both parties are gaining money from this.

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                                            Reply#19 - Mon Oct 4, 2010 3:34 PM EDT

                                            PantiesNaTwist

                                            write in canditate Hillary 2012 join us

                                            Are you a relentless PUMA who just won't give up; or a right wing troll put here to divide the left? You'll be alone; anyhow, Hillary has made it very clear that she is happy where she is.

                                            What makes you think Hillary would be better?


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                                            Reply#21 - Mon Oct 4, 2010 3:46 PM EDT

                                            Yeah just like said when asked if she was going to run for President when she was the sitting Senator for NY. Something to the effect of being a potted flower that needed time to bloom. That didn't last long. At this point she is the best hope to save the Dems from complete destruction under a second term of Obama. Jump ship ships now if you want any hope of staying alive in 2012.

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                                            #21.1 - Mon Oct 4, 2010 3:55 PM EDT

                                            Kevin-500221

                                            Yeah just like said when asked if she was going to run for President when she was the sitting Senator for NY. Something to the effect of being a potted flower that needed time to bloom. That didn't last long. At this point she is the best hope to save the Dems from complete destruction under a second term of Obama. Jump ship ships now if you want any hope of staying alive in 2012.

                                            Well, that's where you're wrong; AGAIN! Hillary didn't get HCR. The President did; no to mention all of the other things he has accomplished you'll see at politifact.org .

                                            You'll also remember The Clinton's lost in 1994.

                                              #21.2 - Mon Oct 4, 2010 4:15 PM EDT

                                              She should be on the ticket as VP next time.

                                                #21.3 - Mon Oct 4, 2010 4:49 PM EDT
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                                                Um Christine, sweetie, in order for you to be "privy" to "classified information", you'd need to have gotten that info from an official government intelligence agency like the FBI or CIA ... not from the gossip of missionaries sent around the world by some crackpot 700-Club type organization with a PO Box and a fax machine to their name.   LMAO

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                                                Reply#22 - Mon Oct 4, 2010 3:48 PM EDT

                                                And Christine, sweetie, if you DID just sort of happen to stumble upon word of this plot before the FBI or CIA or anyone, wouldn't it have been sort of the nice patriotic "real American" thing to......gee, I don't know.....maybe share it with them?

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                                                #22.1 - Mon Oct 4, 2010 4:13 PM EDT

                                                JoAnne, she doesn't have to share it with anyone, its common knowledge. You just can't see it or you don't want to. By the way, is there a single Republican you actually like, or do you just follow party lines?

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                                                #22.2 - Mon Oct 4, 2010 4:17 PM EDT

                                                Excellent point. Didn't think of that.

                                                  #22.3 - Mon Oct 4, 2010 4:18 PM EDT

                                                  JFK-2112 - So if it was "common knowledge", then why did she say it was "classified" and that she was "privy to it" and couldn't share it during the debate in question? Whether or not China plans to take over the U.S. isn't the issue; it's O'Donnell claiming to have "classified" information about a specific plot that she was unable to share.

                                                  And no, I don't just follow party lines - or at least I haven't in the past. I've voted for at least one Republican (Ford) and one Independent (John Anderson) for President, I voted for Arlen Specter and John Heinz at least once each for Pennsylvania Senator, and as recently as 2008 I voted for the Republican in a local race because the Democrat running against him was a total sleaze. If I lived in Delaware instead of just 10 minutes away, I'd have almost certainly voted for Mike Castle at one time or another.

                                                  But I will admit, the Republicans are making it harder and harder every day to keep me so open-minded......

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                                                  #22.4 - Mon Oct 4, 2010 4:55 PM EDT

                                                  JoAnne, it may have been classified at one time and has since been declassified, who knows...but what she is saying about the Chinese is true.

                                                    #22.5 - Mon Oct 4, 2010 6:37 PM EDT
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                                                    Baby Bear and Mommy Bear Palin,what a team....

                                                      Reply#24 - Mon Oct 4, 2010 3:59 PM EDT

                                                      I have some news for Christine O'Donnell, China has been trying to take over the U.S for about twenty years.

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                                                      Reply#25 - Mon Oct 4, 2010 4:04 PM EDT

                                                      I honestly believe O'Donnell was talking what she understood. I also have no doubt that her reading skill is below the everage of 3rd grades, just like her mentor, the ex-Alaska governor - both digest information by their mouth not their brains so not to overburden their handful brain cells.

                                                        Reply#26 - Mon Oct 4, 2010 4:13 PM EDT

                                                        LOL. Dumbest thing I've heard today. And I already watched 10 minutes of FOX "News" today!

                                                          Reply#27 - Mon Oct 4, 2010 4:30 PM EDT
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