Not to mention putting his name on everything, like road construction signs. That really helps the state.

Time for a real change, I just wish independants stood a chance in elections. It's sad no one votes for what the person stands for, but only for that R or D next to a name.

Capn, apparently you don't travel much and in this economy, I can't say I blame you, but you should know that pretty much all governors have signs at road construction sites, touting their "accomplishments": even GOP ones who denounced Obama's Stimulus and then brought out big fake checks with their names on it, pretending they are the ones giving out the money for projects...

I agree that we need more independent influences, but frankly, the Democrats are the ones setting this country right. Go Patrick!

The Democrats are setting the country right? Hahaha, that's a good one. Bankrupting the future of the country is hardly the right course. Not only have the Democrats held the purse strings with a congressional majority for the last 8 years, but all the most liberal states are having the biggest problems with budgets. Look at the collapse that is beginning in socialist Europe and that's what the Democrats have in store for us. It's not that Republicans are any better as people, but at least there is some element within the party that understands that the massive and rapid expansion of the government is not good for anyone in the long term.

Btberry:

Don't buy into the campaign slogans. Most of the biggest expansions of our government came from Republican leads. The biggest in this countries history ever is Homeland Security. Repulicans like to put on their campaign face and say they want to limit government, reduce government oversight, and cut spending. But look at the reality of it, some of the largest expansions of government power have come from the Republican side of things, and our single biggest budget-busting expense is the massively overgrown defense budget which has increased with every Republican-controlled administration in the past 70 years.

I'm not arguing that the Democrats have the answers or can fix things (although i do believe they are closer to the right answer than the Republicans, I'm entitled to my opinion). But I do argue that the Republicans might have a clue. They are just playing to America's ignorance and anger right now, and that is a very effective way of getting the job. But they have no answers.

As for bankrupting the future of the country, I view the tax breaks on the uber rich and deregulation of all business to be far more detrimental to our future. You can insist all you wish that the stimulas plan is going to ruin us all, and you could be right. But we won't really know for any length of time. I can look around right now and see the results of deregulation, and I can't see any benefit of the rich getting richer. Last I heard, Wall street called the recession over. Businesses are fine then, so we are all good right? I'll let you know as soon as I find a job in Iraq.

Pat:

If there is one election I want to see stay "D", it is this one. Governor Patrick is such a good man. He's mature. He's a reformer. He's intelligent. He's got a tremendous amount of dignity.

With all that going against him, how can he possibly win? Candidates who are several sandwiches short of a picnic like Paladino in New York are in vogue these days.

Pat, I think the other candidate would like for Obama to come and campaign for Patrick as well.

I cant wait for Deval to be beaten this November. We all know the only reason Cahill is running is to take away votes from Charlie Baker. If there wasn't a Cahill - Patrick would be toast. Please tell me all the good things Governor Patrick has done. I'm still waiing for lower property taxes he promised.

Not sure Obama can help anyone at this point - even his own staff is running for the hills.

btberry-

A little fact checking before you post please.

You said- "Not only have the Democrats held the purse strings with a congressional majority for the last 8 years,..." Perhaps you can explain how you found that info given that Democrats only controlled both houses of congress beginning in Jan 2007 and even then we had a republican president until Jan 2009. At best, you can only say that Dems are responsible for what has happened since Jan 2009. Sorry this doesn't comport with the Republican "they did it even though WE were in control" mantra but the facts are the facts.

Also, you said- "all the most liberal states are having the biggest problems with budgets." I'd refer you to the VERY red state I live in (Arizona) and simply ask you to compare our problems here with the very liberal state of Mass. and tell me whose problems are worse. I'll give you a hint...the state with the worst financial problems begins with the same letter as the alphabet. I can provide further clues if needed.

Republicans really need to fabricate a new story. The old liberal spending vs. conservative fiscal responsibiltiy just isn't true anymore. The Bush years alone prove that but it was going on even before then. Reagan exploded the deficit and when Bush 1 did the honorable thing and tried to fix it by raising taxes to cover America's bills, the GOP vilified him. GOP=Deficit spending and "let the people eat turnips" thinking. Heaven forbid that the rich in this country give something substantial back to the poor and needy. Shades of Socialism [insert aghast face here].

Don you are correct. Unfortunately, btberry and the rest prefer to rewrite history to fit their own warped agenda. I can't figure out where they get their information.

I hope Patrick loses.

Hi Beverly, I will do my best. Music. I can't live without it. My radio on my computer is going all day.

Keeping my fingers crossed with Gov. Patrick. I'll be devastated if he loses.

Me too Pat. I hope he wins. The GOP/TP is just to outside the realm of reality for me.

I like Hendricks and the doors

Obama was poor?

His mother was a college professor

Obama was hardly poor.

in fact was very middle class if not UPPER middle class the fact so many ASSUME he was poor because he is Black is rather racist

Beverly in Chicago.

In fact OBAMA so "Poor" he attended Punahou School which is a Private prep school in Oahu known as the "University of Oahu" with a current Tuition of $17,000 a school year

Amazes me all you Obama Cult members no so little about the "chosen one" that you would think he "grew up poor"

Jorge-2191028

Obama was hardly poor.

in fact was very middle class if not UPPER middle class the fact so many ASSUME he was poor because he is Black is rather racist

Are you ASSUMing?

All Black people are not poor! There's Oprah, Condoleezza Rice, American businessman Bob Johnson, Bill Cosby, Colin Powell, Michael Jordan, Tiger Woods, PBS talk show host Tavis Smiley amongst many well educated upwardly mobile Blacks first exposed during the Clarence thomas confirmation hearings.

I said the President grew up in a poor environment.

Beveral you said this

I like Governor Deval Patrick too. Being a south sider from a Chicago housing project, he has proved that all poor people are not lazy and unambitious. I really liked it when the right wing went crazy accusing the President of plagiarizing Governor Patrick and he defended the President. As a matter of fact, President Obama was poor too; and grew up to become the leader of the free world.

SO you cite Governor Deval Patrick growing up poor then you say " As a matter of Fact, President Obaam was poor too"

You said " Obama Grew up poor too"

your were wrong now your mistating what your originally said..

The honest and mature thing to do would be to just admit you didnt know OBAMA grew up upper middle class and move along

WHile the dishonest and immature thing is to do is to continue to denie what you originally said...

Your choice..

Jorge-2191028

SO you cite Governor Deval Patrick growing up poor then you say " As a matter of Fact, President Obaam was poor too"

You said " Obama Grew up poor too"

your were wrong now your mistating what your originally said..

The honest and mature thing to do would be to just admit you didnt know OBAMA grew up upper middle class and move along

WHile the dishonest and immature thing is to do is to continue to denie what you originally said...

Your choice..

You choice, should you decide to take the challenge, is to learn how to read.This proves what the President said in such a farcical way. If the President or someone from the left says the sky is blue you righties say it's not.

What is wrong with you righties?

Her's a little trivia challenge for you:

Mini Biography

Barack Obama was born to a white American mother, Ann Dunham, and a black Kenyan father, Barack Obama Sr., who were both young college students at the University of Hawaii. When his father left for Harvard, she and Barack stayed behind, and his father ultimately returned alone to Kenya, where he worked as a government economist. Barack's mother remarried an Indonesian oil manager and moved to Jakarta when Barack was six. He later recounted Indonesia as simultaneously lush and a harrowing exposure to tropical poverty. He returned to Hawaii, where he was brought up largely by his grandparents. The family lived in a small apartment - his grandfather was a furniture salesman and an unsuccessful insurance agent and his grandmother worked in a bank - but Barack managed to get into Punahou School, Hawaii's top prep academy. His father wrote to him regularly but, though he traveled around the world on official business for Kenya, he visited only once, when Barack was ten.

S. Ann Dunham Soetoro(the President's mother)
When her son was almost 2, Ann returned to college. Money was tight. She collected food stamps and relied on her parents to help take care of young Barack

Read more: http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1729524-4,00.html#ixzz1187sA2s8

I support Governor Patrick as well. He has been such a wonderful supporter of public education and public higher ed. Education in particular will take a huge hit if Baker were to get elected.

President Obama grew up like most of us. If he got into a private school it was because his family CHOOSE to sacrifice for his education. He won scholarships and showed his ability to stand out early on in life.

Most of us would admire this record. The naysayers should be ashamed of themselves.

Obama did not grow up poor

Like I said he was middle class or upper middle class..

niteowleet

I already PUNKED you once today and you come back for more

You ran from the other conversation...now you will run to the next

Just read the mini bio for Obama a couple of posts up. I don't see how that is described as an upper middle class upbringing. He did grow up, get an education, and join the upper middle class. Is that what you mean?

Thanks Debi for setting the record straight. I didnt except anything differnet from Pat the Massachusetts Moonbat!

Jim-792457

Beverly: I don't know enough about Patrick to judge. I'll have to read up on him. However, Your statement that Obama grew up poor is a bit of a strech. The man lived in Hawaii, attended Columbia Univ. and Harvard. Traveled extensively when he was a student and you call that poor. Spin all you want but to us average folks that's a pretty priviledged life-style.

It's not spin. It's factual. His mom lived on food stamps and he had government loans and grants to attend college.

You know Hawaii sounds exotic to you; but, it was not a lavish lifestyle for the President. President Obama couldn't even afford surf board as child. Remember those pictures of the President body surfing while on vacation

Jimbo--

Privileged because he went to Columbia and Harvard? What's coming next, that he is "elitist" for being educated at two of America's top universities? Ever heard of student loans, grants, college work study, scholarships and school matchings which constitute a financial aid package? What, Hawaii doesn't have poor people just because its tropical and is more prone to a beach lifestyle? Hell, Obama had to write two damn books to pay off his school loans just before launching his senate/presidential campaign. Ever see the picture with his leg propped up on his desk with holes in the bottom of his shoes? He may not have been poor as poor is defined by the federal government but he was nowhere near being privileged. Unless of course you and the baggers are privy to some top secret evidence that suggests he is the "blacksheep" son-of-a-Bush that had been locked away in the Kennebunkport tower for years! Now that I think about it, where is my bagga' decoder ring? Had it here somewhere...

Mad, none of you have seen anything concerning Obama's education at Columbia and Harvard, except what he has stated. Remember he refuses to release any of his school records, essays, or any other aspects of loans, grants, etc. The person that did hack into his student loan file is now in jail for doing so. The news media did a very poor job of vetting President Obama. The main reasons that the MSM refused to vet him was two fold, one they did everything to get him elected because he is very liberal, and second, they were afraid they might be called racist. I like to call the news media "gutless".

Okay Sfcret--

If you went to a school of any repute (assuming you even went to school) you would know that schools like Columbia and Harvard don't stand pat and allow a lie to perpetuate about an academic record at their school especially if that someone is, oh, a public figure like, um, the president of the US! Last I checked, hacking, you know the equivalent of breaking and entering, is a crime that is punishable. Has nothing to do with the victim or "hackee". I don't hear you complaining about the hacker that got into Simple Sarah's email account during the campaign who has since been tried, found guilty and sentenced. Call the media "gutless" if you will. I'll just call you "stupid".

Mad, so all you can do is call someone that disagrees with you "stupid". I will put my education up against yours anytime. I also noticed you didn't answer my questions or comment on why Obama had his records sealed and refuses to release them. Show me one article he wrote for the Harvard Law School? Show me a transcript to show what classes he took? The only one that is "stupid" is you.

Sfcret

Mad, none of you have seen anything concerning Obama's education at Columbia and Harvard, except what he has stated

I've seen:

* he the president of the Harvard Law Review.

*graduated with a Juris Doctor (J.D.) magna cum laude

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama

You do know in order to graduate law school you'd have to do undergraduate study?

btw: how many degrees does the lunatic Cristine O'Donnell accomplish?

Back to name calling huh? What does she have to do with this conversation? Obama may or may not have all the degrees he has said he has, but that doesn't make him smart.

Obama actually grew up so poor he didn't even know what money was until Biden told him. He also walks on water. The fact that he cannot balance payments in with payments out is irrelevant. We worship him because he is the great and glorious unifier of the world. Don't let facts get in the way. The end.

Sarcasm is something you know. Anything else?

Maybe if you lived the college experience you would know that scholarships pay for those sorts of things.

His mother at one time collecting FOOD STAMPS does not prove he grew up poor..

Its like saying onetime RUSH LIMBAUGH declared bankruptcy, which he did, so he is poor..

OBAMA was solidly middle class who LIVED With his GRANDPARENTS because his mother was a COLLEGE PROFESOR who spent much of her time over seas..

How do we know this? because OBAMA says so in his book...

OBAMA attended a PRIVATE PREP school in OAHU...

the fact his family made sacrifices, to afford OBAMAS PRIVATE PREP SCHOOL does not make them poor..

lots of MIDDLE CLASS and UPPER MIDDLE CLASS families make sacrificies to pay for their kids PRIVATE schools..

I have a buddy who sold his BOAT to pay for his sons YEAR of private school and foot ball camps and ne next year he will figure something else out to pay for his kids school.

I have lots of budides that when they get married they give up the toys (motor cycles, boats, jet ski's, foot ball season tickets) to provide for their new famiies

Making a sacrifice for your family does not make a person "poor" and does make the family poor.

geez.

THE DEPTHS and lenghts OBAMA cult members go to to try and prove t

OBAMA did not grow up poor..

bottom line

haivng college loans does not make a person poor..

using grants to pay for college does not make a person poor..

THE BS and just flat out STUPIDITY OBAMA cult members spread and need to believe to justifty supporting the most UNQUALIFIED president of my life time is rather amazing..

OBAMA SO SMART

he sat in reverand wrights church for 20 years...but some how didn't know Reverend Wrights philosophy or theology..

20 years and OBAMA didnt catch on...

he is either stupid or lying.....which is it?

Beverly, I know you are from Chicago so I will excuse you for your lack of knowledge about someone you voted for and support. However, you have not answered by questions, what articles did he write for the Harvard Law Review (besides an unsigned opinion on the defense of abortion)? What was his academic standing upon graduation, and what was any of his term papers about, since when asked he couldn't remember. In fact he could remember very little about his higher education at Columbia and Harvard. He refuses to release his college records, and what was his undergraduate studies. I don't think I am asking to much to ask that he produce the records that other presidential candidates have proved.

Obama is not stupid, I would go with lying.

Bev,

You surf board comment had me laughing on that you don't have a clue. It's called boogie boarding and people do it if they can't surf, not because they're poor. I lived there for 2 years, but what do I know.

Yeah, I've seen the school he went to and he wasn't poor not matter what you say. Post a creditable link stated that he was.............have you ever been to Hawaii? There's a good reason why he went to that school.

"You know Hawaii sounds exotic to you; but, it was not a lavish lifestyle for the President. President Obama couldn't even afford surf board as child. Remember those pictures of the President body surfing while on vacation"

Paul-Florida

"You know Hawaii sounds exotic to you; but, it was not a lavish lifestyle for the President. President Obama couldn't even afford surf board as child. Remember those pictures of the President body surfing while on vacation"

And information to you sounds like a typical right-wing TB and a TB candidate. In other words it doesn't matter even when it's true. Up is down and down is up when you're stupid.

Ay Jorge, por favor! Tu tambien? Que tanta mierda tu dices. Pues, cuidate! La gente Republicana en esa pagina o el pueblito tuyo no le gustan latinos. Sabe? El unico uso para ti es algo mas differente! Que cabron!

I don't know about Mass., but your statements about health care in Hawaii are erroneous.

Heartlight3
I don't know about Mass., but your statements about health care in Hawaii are erroneous.

You are correct. I'm from Hawaii. Jim's statement is false! Quest still exists for kids and adults! Aloha!

I also live in western MA. Patrick has not helped me at all. I live paycheck to paycheck and my paycheck keeps getting smaller because of health insurance and taxes while he pays illegal aliens tax money that could benefit the elderly, schools, roads and people with disabilities. Has the ballotts printed in foreign languages for people that don't want to learn the language. Thanks for wasting money that could be better spent Duval.

Little Guy,

Times are tough and we look for people to blame. It's easy to blame the least among us, but not accurate. Your attack on illegal aliens and those who can't afford insurance (would you be among the second group, since you're living paycheck to paycheck?) are hardly at fault for the Republican policies of the last 30 years that have the country in such a mess. Perhaps if the GOP hadn't stripped the middle class, you would find your paychecks more than adequate...

Including citizens who know other languages in the democratic process is hardly expensive, and last I checked there was no "the language" certified by our Government, OF THE PEOPLE. That would be all of the people, not just the ones who have your cultural background.

Jimmy,

Times are tough. It was much better for me under the republicans watch. I'm not saying that they are the best - just better than what we have now (IMO). I don't like the idea that my tax dollars are going to support illegal activity - free healthcare, housing, food and spending money. One of the requirements to be a citizen are that you can read and speak basic English. If we are going to have road signs printed in 26 languages it is going to be very confusing to drive on the highways.

Little Guy, your plight is the same through out this country. If the Republican party is better, how did we end up where we are today? We will never have, what you call, free health care. We will instead have an opportunity to be able to get health care. I want health care coverage. However, because if had cancer twice, the insurance companies won't give me any. I've been cancer free for 3 years. Tough for me. Once this "free health care" becomes law, they won't be able to deny me coverage. I will also pay for the coverage I want. I lost my job Sept 26, 2008. After 10 years I was out on the street. Being over 50, I can't find a job. I worked hard in my job. However, because I was a higher paid person in my department, I got laid off.

Do not tell me this president is going to ruin this country. He is the first president who have actually given a rats ass about everyone in this country. Republicans are determined to destroy everything this president has accomplished. They are the elite in this country and will do anything to keep the rest of us as far down as we will let them.

Time to stop talking nonsense and read some objective information about where this country is and, more importantly, how we got here. I am absolutely disgusted with the hateful talk by the Republican party. They just threaten us everyday. Wake the hell up.

Hey Stevie--

"...liberals have socialized the state."

So Republican administrations including Romney's couldn't do anything to "desocialize" it? Could it also be that Romney's so-called "socialist" healthcare plan contributed to MA's socialism? Do you even know the meaning of the word "socialism" or is it just naturally regurgitated from the Beckian lobe of your brain? Unless you have lived in CT (where even the air is taxed) or NY you have/had no reason to complain. I sympathize with people who have to cross the Verrazano or GW Bridge everyday and literally pay the equivalent of a month's rent to park in NYC before I listen to you whine about MA's so-called "socialism". You got a problem with "socialist" East coast states? Move to Montana!

i agree.

steveO-334978

I lived in Mass for 2 years and couldn't believe how socialized the state was. The Mass turnpike is the major highway in the state and you have to pay to use it...

And here in Conservative Texas, dang near EVERY major highway project is now being done as toll roads, thanks to our Conservative Republican Governor Rick Perry -- who tried his best to institute an enormous eminent-domain grab AND massive toll project called the Trans-Texas Corridor, on top of selling out dang near every existing Interstate highway that he could to Spain-based CINTRA. We USED to own our roads. Not anymore, thanks to Slick Rick.

Gas tax money? Perry's derailed that money, dumped it into the general budget to cover his OTHER mis-management, so we get taxed twice... once at the pump, and again every time we drive the Perry Thru-Ways. Makes me wonder how much $$ is getting diverted straight into Perry's pocket.

Yet the right-wing yahoos in this state will elect this guy again. Why? Because he's a Republican and that's the only thing that matters.

Nice, Mike. You really think you speak for "the rest of America"?

I would challenge you to look into the Republican policies of the last 30 years that have served their corporate masters and all but eliminated the middle class. You are right to be upset, but you're blaming a person in Barney Frank who has served to help Americans against the politicians you should be mad at.

Can not believe the people who defend Barney Frank. Please google the man and look at his pats. One of his past lovers ran a whore house out of his house and he claim he knew nothing about it. Last summer he was in the paper again for his current boyfriend growing pot at his house in Maine again he know nothing about it. But his voters in Cambridge keep voting for this loser. Only in Massachusetts and California can a loser like this keep his seat in Congress. Let's not forget about fannie and freddie Barney's biggest disaster. Massachusetts isnt called Taxachusetts for nothing. I live here and the only reason I'm still here is I'm having a hard time to sell my house once its sold I'm gone from this moombat state.

Sam, very nice post. I particularly agree with your point regarding the effort put forth by Republican supporters to discredit the President with propaganda, lies, and public declarations that they would never recognize this president as their president. It sickens me to see the total lack of civilty or respect shown. On a brighter note, I saw for the first time on my way home from work yesterday, an "Obama/ Biden 2012" bumpersticker. Put a smile on my face.

#1... Sam, you're an idiot ... #2, this is not a "defection", this is an "infiltration". I hope I'm wrong, but I understand the lengths liberal politicts will stoop to to gain an edge.

afloatinasea

Oh why not reelect a man who is partially to blame for the 1 Billion dollar deficit. The others to blame are the Demrats.

Because Americans don't want to continually be tricked.

It bothers you that he wrote two best selling books? I thought you guys liked people who pull themselves up by their boot straps? Or only if they are not Democrats?