Maybe they took a page from YOUR playbook Madison.

So Madison, are you upset because the Hispanic population is hearing the truth or are you just upset because Hispanic citizens get to vote?

What I really want to hear from you is how do you feel about paladino in the NY governor's race? Surely you are not proud that he is your candiate are you?

Agreed Union Baby....Madison, don't you have enough on your plate within your own state? Did Cuomo somehow use his liberal, leftist, progressive bad-mouthing of Paladino to "create" his 10 year old "love child" after 40 years of wedded bliss?? The hypocrisy from the Repug party is just non-stop....

Both campaigns have been pretty negative. It's not a left or right wing playbook, it's advertising. Advertising designed to tap in to the large amounts of voter anger we've been hearing so much about.

Whitman's campaign has had more positive campaign ads, but it has put out more ads in general. She's spent about 20 times what Brown has spent to date (Brown still has 20 mil or so in his war chest).

It took us a little while Madison... but we've learned well how to play the attack & smear game OHHH so well from the Master's of it ... also known as the GENOPEE!

It was only a matter of time... lol

The righties are GREAT at dishing it out, having to take it... ehhh NOT SO MUCH!

Just shows how deeply ingrained illegal immigrants are in this country. How has Meg’s day been without a Mexican to boss around? Who is her current housemaid? From what I read she paid her more than average considering Meg is an anti labor republican. But is that a living wage in California?

WHERE do you GET this gargbage, Madison?

You been watcing too many 'ooga booga' videos from Paladino's campaign, I'd guess!

Republicans are the masters of mean-spirited attack ads. Who taught Karl Rove his dirty tricks? Who ran Bush 41's attack ads? Roger Ailes (sp). Where is Roger now? He runs FOX where he allows and encourages lies and attacks against President Obama and democrats--FOX is one big attack ad.

I am not a fan of attack ads except when they point out the truth about a candidate whether it is their voting record or knowingly hiring an illegal immigrant until it became inconvenient. It is about time democrats stop playing nice--the GOPers never have and never will.

WHo is paying Gloria Allred? Why is this illegal still in the US? Just being here is breaking the law. SEIU is such a pathetic Union of thugs.

The fact of the matter is that there is a lot of negative campaigning going on right now, largely because of the negative views of politicians in this country and the idea (fact?) that anger motivates more than approval.

That one side does it or not isn't, or shouldn't be the issue. That it appears to be so effective, is. I hate going to the polls to vote for the lesser of two evils, but without any positives coming from candidates, what else is there to vote on?

Lastly, this speaking in absolutes thing is ridiculous. Saying that one party is entirely evil, or always does this and never that endears you to your choirs, but the folks in the pews tune that sh*t out.

So she uses an Agency to find a cleaning lady.. Said cleaning lady provides false information stating she is legal.

Cleaning lady is found to be illegal, so she is fired ( as anyone should be ) Cleaning lady files in court trying to make a buck all backed by the SEIU...

So exactly what did she do wrong?

Deport the illegal immigrant.

handgunner, typical right wing talk, " deport the illegals" this is talk without thinking of what would really happen. first of all, can you image the cost of deporting them, to find them, to take them from their jobs. what would happen to the lawns, farms, factories, contruction. you crazy right wingers like your cheap labor, your cheap everything, but you don't want to acknowledge would does the work. have you ever seen the walls of a farm before. now when you go past the cost of deporting the illegals, you have the political and legal aspect of doing that. what would happen to legal american kids, who would take care of them.

i think you need to think before you open your mouth... you just sound dumb and uneducated. meg got caught and she needs to pay, good luck winning that race. 150 million down the drain. well at least she helped the economy for a bit.

You do realize that there are millions of US citizens that would LOVE to mow a lawn, work in a factory or pour some concrete if it meant that they would have enough money to feed their families? Construction used to be a decent job, but now here in CA you can't find a construction job even at minimum wage because there are illegals that will do them for half that price. Deporting illegals may cause cost to go up but if more people are working then we will be able to afford a bit of a price increase. I would rather not be the only one working in my household. I would love for my man to do a construction job or factory job and he would as well. Then we could afford to pay a little more for our tomatoes.

E from Minneapolis

You should take your own advice and think before you open and insert foot. Tell me how 20 million illegals living in the U.S. is a good thing; except for them? Tell me what job they do that would not be readily filled by a legal resident. You asked what would happen to the factories, the construction, farms and lawns.... please. Try pulling your head out of your 4th point of contact and get a grip. First of all lets talk about the cost. If Congress passed a law right now that that stated that illegals that self deport would be able to keep all their belongings (except real estate) if they left within 60 days and if they didn't they would be forced out and would loose all their belongings that would be auctioned off to pay for their deportations many of those millions would be gone like that. If at the same time they raised the penalties on employers and mandated minimum sentences for hiring illegals the jobs would dry up. With just those two items most of the illegals that are currently here would be gone, majorly reducing the costs of deporting the rest of them. As for legal children being left behind .... right.... if the children were born here and they have one legal parent then they stay with the legal parent. If not they go with their parents until they reach the age of 18 and then they can return. No problem there. To fix the problem enforce the 14th Amendment as it was written and for what it was intended, which does not include illegals benefiting from breaking the law to be here in the first place.

You say right wingers like their cheap labor. Are you saying that not one Dem out there owns a business. I guess every registered Dem is a law abiding, tax paying, non-illegal hiring person. That is a lame talking point that only an ignorant left wing liberal would parrot. If this was true Obama wouldn't have had such a hard time filling his staff since so many opted out because they "forgot" to pay their taxes.

As for Whitman, if she hired an illegal and it can be proven then she should have to pay. On ther other hand the illegal housekeeper should be deported ASAP. From what I understand Whitman was paying her over $20 an hour. Tell me what legal resident that was in that line of work wouldn't have jumped at those wages. I also have heard that she paid all her taxes for social security and medicare. If that is true it looks more like the hiring agency she went thru to hire this individual was at fault for not making sure she was legal. I would also say that if the ssn was bogus then why didn't the IRS know it and take actions to enforce the law.

Name-callers are always the ones with the guilt. Face it - she's displayed the traits of a hypocrite, and so are you by diverting the attention elsewhere.

Your contribution has been erased because you are not one that is moving us forward.

I don't understand why anyone would spend so much money trying to get in a position to run California. That state has been so screwed up by liberals and illegals that I would walk away and let them have it to themselves.

Madison,

You're from NY. I don't see how the California gubernatorial race personally affects you.

To imply that she employed a person for 9 years (or however long it was) and didn't do anything to look into her background shows just how complacent she has been in her due diligence.

The immigration problem won't be fixed until the businesses that hire illegals are shut down... Enforcement on people before businesses is a lose lose.

Oh, boy, more bile and name-calling by Madison, and none of it at all justified.

Meg Whitman's hypocrisy is simply magnified in this one aspect of her abysmal record. Since she's unable to draw the kind of independent campaign donations that a solid candidate would, she's trying to buy office. All of her proposals would wreck the fragile situation in California, but she'd be sure, as rRnald Reagan did during his abysmal term as Governor, to enrich the oil industry, the timber industry, and the contracting industry - well, not those industries, you understand, just the major owners/shareholders.

Environmental protection? Safe workplaces? Education? None a subject Whitman thinks the state should really support. Mental health services? Hey, turn those loonies out on the streets, jsut like dear old Ronnie did. Medical (the state's equivalent of Medicaid)? Nope, that's a Communist plot to help the undeserving survive to vote against good ole Republican values.

Whitman's abysmal business record and her bizarre ideas about how to run a government - plus her condescending and arrogant attitude as shown in this flap - show she's unfit to hold office.

And Madison, your characterizations of either Jerry Brown or most all other Democrats, including the President, as "socialists" demonstrates complete ignorance of the meaning of the term. Get a dictionary, and please wipe the monitor in front of you. There's spit all over it.

Did anyone else notice that the hispanic women that Whitman had as an employee pretended to be wiping tears away but I looked very closely and saw no tears! Also, she read her statement which took away from her credibility. She had a well paying $23 an hour job for all those years when Whitman thought she was legal and when she admitted she was illegal Whitman let her go!

That's why she's complaining. She lost her $23 an hour job and wants to sue to get more money. That's dishonest in my view.

Honesty counts!

Do we really want dishonest people like her in this country?

The Democrats attack is tame, compared to the slander, lies and mismanagement of our country and the people in it for the last 8-15 years. They were for themselves and Wall Street.

Here is what they consider to be small business.

What is considered a small business, Senate McCain wife knows, she owns a beer company that is considered to be a small business, with income over 6 million dollars.

I have no idea what you think of Keith Olbermann, but this is worth watching, he really gives a good definition of what is considered to be a small business in our country..

The top 3% percent of the wealthiest in this country keeps 18% of every 100 dollars of this countries income. The biggest part of them is also considered to be small business. I used these names as examples there are thousand more that is considered a small business, Koch Brothers, Fed-Ex. Because of little entitlements on the tax forms.

Countdown special report:

Click on previously Sept 22 2010

Small in name only

A look at the reality behind the Republicans argument that classifies small business and the tax cut they receive

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036677/ns/msnbc_tv-countdown_with_keith_olbermann/

Guess the lesson here is that we should not hire Hispanics even if they have what appears to be the proper documentation. If she asked for proof that the SS card and DL she had was valid, she would be accused of profiling, and now you see what is happening since she didn't. A lose lose situation. Best thing to do is just hire someone else at $23 per hour.

THink this is a tit for tat..modeled on the citizens united corporate owned roberts court ruling from the righties!

The airwaves are full of the American Crossroads rovian blatant lies ad buys...At least this SEIU ad is true..The corporate rovian ads are pure fabrication and fear mongering...Fact Checker has called them out across the nation...

There are some races that may not be bought..just like karma bites back ..Meg may not have the time or $$$ to get out of this!

They work especially well, Feisty, when the attack is made using the candidate's own words.

But then, can you really, really call it an attack ad at all?

There should be a better name for this kind of ad. Maybe self-exposure. ;)

They should call them truith-e-isms.

I had never been a fan of attack ads... but the truth of the matter is they work!

And I'm damn PROUD to see that the Democrats have finally figured that out!

Politics is a CONTACT sport and if for some reason you were naive going in... you WON'T be when you leave!

For now we see but through a glass darkly.

Feisty,

Democrats are the pros in lying and attack ads and SEIU is their paid thughs by public funds! That is all they have to run on. They certainly are not running on their record since they have taken control. Actually they avoid talking about what disastrous legislation they have past that will bankrupt this country and billions spent that they can't account for their ineffective expenses. Also this is the first congress who has not past a budget nor appropriations.

SEIU goes on attack on Whitman because they have in their hip pocket Jerry Brown who started California on their disastrous financial liberal programs by increasing spending by 120% and his collective bargaining of $60 Billion dollars of unfunded liability with the Public Employee Union. This continued buy votes and favor with the unions at the citizens expense has been crafted so well behind closed doors.

SEIU does not want to show the fact in their ad that Whitman hired this illegal through a legitimated employment agency and paid this housekeeper at $23/hour and payment of her social security and state benefits. SEIU is so threatened that they have to do like the Dems false attack ads to divert attention from what they are doing themselves and they don't want you to focus on that.

Give us a break! We are not dumb like the California Kool-aid drinkers. Don't ask the other 49 and the feds to bail you out with your crazy unfunded programs that you don't want to take responsiblity for. Get REAL!!!!!

give the GOP long enough and they will get the blaimed on Obama if it is at all possible . because they don't take responsiblelity for anything .

Specifics, please?

Specifics? Can you read Kirby??

"Meg's plan for California if elected; 1. Decrease taxes for the wealthy. 2. Pay cut's for the middle-class (who still have jobs). 3. Cut social programs (just when they are needed most)."

Looks like Meg stole John Boehners adgenda.

Just another lib/dem misinterpretation.

Well, Pro Gun....please enlighten the misinterpreting liberals to what Meg REALLY is gonna do for us Californians....

learned from reps? LOL. Dems invented personal attack ads. Ever heard of yellow journalism or did you go to public school? They're all dem newspapers (Hearst came later). Dems have been doing this for at least 100 yrs.

In that case Meg was a good study. She pilloried Steve Poizner during the primaries with her bottomless bank account. He never stood a chance against her. BTW, yes, many "libs" went to public school. What's wrong with that? Are you being an elitist? Last I heard the Wasington Times were about as liberal as.....Meg Whitman!

Hate to say it, but bs detector's right on the money.

And I don't care who does it, sinking to the level of ten-year-olds in the school-yard is abhorrent for both sides of the aisle.

Hate to say it but, bs detector AND Exodite Dragon are NOT on the money. If you Exodite Dragon don't care who does it and you don't like sinking to the level of ten-year olds, where were you on these boards when Meg went after Poizner? Why don't the conservatives get on these boards when one of their own do these things? Everybody's doing the "attack thing" nowadays....seems it's a new age for this type of "communication" between Americans. Sad....but, true. You're NEVER going to get us to your way of thinking and vice/versa. We are all in our prospective "camps" and that's the way it's going to be....at least for the foreseeable future....

Jeffery: Excuse me for having things to do outside of watching a newsblog every minute of every day. I catch what I can - but this is hardly a priority.

It's fallacious to do a thing merely because everyone does it. As a classic example, consider that everyone once believed the earth was flat and located at the exact center of the universe; that didn't make it right.

Mark R. Your comment made me think of Ann Coulter, the queen of ugly, hateful words dished out at those with whom she disagrees but when someone attacks back to her face, she breaks down in tears and leaves the room.

UGLY,,,,that's all you can come up with to describe that piece of walking dung ? Ok, i'll try and be nice,,ugly it is.

Right on Jody ..I hate Coulter and everybody on fixed noise

Don't try to imply Democrats from a 100 years ago who created Yellow Journalism are the same as they are today. Same with the Republicans. It's like saying Republicans are still from the Anti-Federalist party. You know nothing of our countries history, which is also a shame. Politics is all bull. They all lie, I'm fed up with both parties who want their way. Not one person in a party goes against their party's overall decision. Same thing happened with Charlie Crist who was ousted because he supported the Recovery Act. He is now running as an independent for the Senate. That's the problem with today's politics, but what can you do? That's how politics works. Parties have a general mission statement and if you don't follow it, you don't deserve to be in that party. You can't have your own opinion in a party because the Seniors will tear you apart.

Anyways, back to this election, I'm not from California but I do believe it's just a bunch of garbage talk between both candidates. Happens almost all the time. That's how people get elected. It's nothing new, I'll give that too bs detector, but most of the time it's polite. Usually Ad Campaigns detail the other nominees flaws. It's how its done. That's when you as a voter to elect your State officials make a choice to determine who is best. Don't think about yourself, think of the state as a whole, because if you do that, then everyone wins even you and your family. I like Bill Clinton's side of things where he says "You have to get your facts straight, at least 3/4 of them have to be facts." If it is undeniable, it is a fact. Don't try to think outside the box, if someone spent 5 million dollars school funding, then that is what they did. Don't think, "Well, they did it because the principal is the Governor's son." Try not think like that. Get the facts, then make your OWN decision. Cause that's what this country really needs. However, this is my opinion, but I don't see anything wrong with someone making their own decision based on the fact presented to them. It's a very rational way of looking at things.

Sometimes it is just too easy to 'damn them with their own words'...This is the lesson the dems are finally learning..Gop uses lies--Dems use republicans own words against them!

Seems she is spending her own money,not my tax dollars. You in Cal are headed for bankruptcy anyway,with all the illegals your tax dollars are going to support.

Stormer, Meg spends her own money as there aren't enough donations for her to run the expensive campaign she is running. Jerry Brown has plenty of money given him by ordinary people. None of either candidate's campaign money comes from your taxes or mine. Campaigns are paid for with donations whether from one's own account or donors.

She is even prepared to spend another 150 million more to get elected. Why would someone be willing to spend a third of a billion dollars for a low paying (compared to the campaign cost) thankless job?

CARDOG

1. The illegals aren't here to pick your cabbage, most of them are not in the fields, and as far as that goes Economics 101 would teach you that labor is a very, very small portion of the costs of goods. There are many machines out there that have been created to do most of the picking and if the illegals were not here the farmers would pay a higher wage and or invest in the machinery to do the job. A win win for workers and the producers of the machinery.

2. Who will clean our stepford wives homes. Mine cleans ours with some help from me. However for what Whitman was apparently paying, I think most people would have been extremely happy to have the job.

3. Who will take care of America's crumb snathcers? Hmmm I don't know about you, but I would want someone that could read, write, and speak english, and not afraid to call the cops or the fire department, or an ambulance to take care of mine.

4. When I was a kid I remember mowing many lawns for extra cash. I pushed my lawn mower all over our community. My brothers worked for landscaping companies while they went to college. Are you saying that everybody here uses an illegal to mow their lawns?

5. Factories employing at slave wages. Please tell us where those factories are and who owns them.

Illegals do not make our nation go round and if they were gone. Most of the unemployment problems faced by millions of legal residents would also be gone. They do not contribute to our economy and if a mass deportation was conducted it would benefit every state's economy as well as help decrease the amount of spending that the Fed is currently doing. Please tell me how getting rid of approx 20 million illegals would be a disaster to our economy.

Cardog-

Economics 101? You have to be the dumbest person to walk the face of the earth! Economics 101 teaches us that the labor in these field jobs is easy? How so genius? Because of some machines? What are they called, who manufactures them, how much do they cost? And you said that most of them are not in the fields? Oh really, then who the hell is out there picking your cabbage, dumbass? So your going to kick all the illegals out and just make the farmers pay higher wages and invest in the machinery, uhhhhh ok, just like that huh? From one day to the next, are you going to pick a specific date and time and throw them a going away party? This has to be the most asinine comment of yours " I use to cut my neighbors lawn when I was a kid for extra cash" Oh my god, your genius! We should just send our kids to cut everyone's lawn, that will definitely get the economy. Such a no-brainer, how come no one has come up with that one before? Also I ask you to provide to total amountof companies operating in the U.S., there names, and the salaries of it's employees. Since your so sure it's not occurring at all. How does it help our economy by deporting 20 mil illegals? You keep living in some fantasy land by believing that these illegals are holding onto jobs that americans want?? Your a goofball, lol

Well said Michael!

Bravo!

Nymkosis

First of all Cardog didn't make those comments, I did. If your head wasn't so far up your 4th point of contact you would be able to clearly see that. As for calling me a dumbass; you are the one with his head planted not me. Do you or anyone truly believe that illegals are making our system better. As for factory jobs. I remember when they busted the meat packing plant in the midwest. They kicked out all the illegals and arrested the plant managers. Within days the positions were filled by legal residents. Do you really think that not one legal resident would work for Whitman for the $23 dollars an hour she was paying. You are an idiot and have no concept of what you are talking about. Do you really think that 20 million illegals are working in the fields and farms of this country. Again you are the idiot here. Do us a favor, suck on your koolaid with your ass planted on your couch, please be careful how you move though because with the placement of your head, if you shift your behind to far one way you might break your neck

Michael - got to say that I haven't heard the 4th point of contact reference in quite some time. THANK YOU.

They can't vote if they're illegals. Jeez. If the Meg Whitmans did not hire them, they would not come. Ever think about that.

They join the SEIU,and get a card to vote.

Stormer the only voting they might do would be in the SEIU, if they belong to the union, which most do not. As for normal political elections where you get the idea that non-citizens can vote is beyond me. Stupidity has no bounds among those at the extremes.

Adler- you are too naive.....why do you think dumbocrats want to allow these illegals here in the first place, why do the unions want them here, how do illegals get State issued driver's licenses, why does La Raza threaten American politicians that do not agree with them, you don't think there are illegal aliens voting in our elections now.......get a clue, Clyde........

You should be grateful to the unions they are the only thing prevent corporations from treating you like an Illegal alien. People that are 2 months pay from being homeless and bash unions are pathetic, most people have more in common with the working poor than the corporate fat cats they just can't admit to themselves. If you destroy the unions you will cut your own pay even if you don't belong to a union. A working man who votes republican is like a chicken voting for KFC.

Forrest, spoken like a true SEIU member.

If my workers unionized I would move my company overseas period.

When G Allred compared Whitman's undocumented maid to Rosa Parks I almost had a seizure. We sacrificed so much for our places in this society and then to have our heroic efforts so belittled is a horrific INSULT. My anger at Alred is limitless.

This undocumented individual lied and schemed her way into a $23 hour job and now others are comparing her to a great Civil Rights hero. She willing worked for Whitman for a nice salary. This woman is obviously skilled and ambitious. I think under the circumstances she should be granted work papers and allowed to seek other employment in this country. And, that others like her in similar situations should be allowed work papers.

Others are using her for their benefit and making a pitiful spectacle out of a worthy individual.

I really like J Brown, but because of this may vote for M Whitman.

brown

Oh, just stop it. You were NEVER in the Brown camp!

Oh Bev,if only the 95% of criminals in jail did not identify themselves as Democrats you'd have a case.

Evidence from a reliable source, please. Otherwise it is just BS and YOUR opinion.

Bev

Lets not forget about Waters, Rangel. How about the two that funneled scholarship money to their own families and friends. How about the one in Louisiana that got caught with the cash in his fridge. How about the one running for Senate in Missouri who as the current Secretary of State for Missouri diverted $107 million in stimulus money to a wind farm in her state. No big deal except that it is owned and operated by her brother and the rest of her family. How about Gifford from Arizona who was invited by Pelosi on one of her overseas trips to Demark. No big deal for two Reps to go if they had legitamte business to conduct. However both brought family and friends on the tax payer's dime.

As for lobbyist, didn't the current President say that there would be none in his White House? Go check to see how many actually got hired by the anti-lobbyist Obama. The problem with pointing a finger is that when done four are pointing back at you. Both sides have their corrupt members, however the wicked witch of the west is the one that said she would drain the swamp. Guess it isn't so easy when many of the creepy crawlers in the swamp are here friends and supporters.

Michael Lockwood

Bev

Lets not forget about Waters, Rangel. How about the two that funneled scholarship money to their own families and friends. How about the one in Louisiana that got caught with the cash in his fridge. How about the one running for Senate in Missouri who as the current Secretary of State for Missouri diverted $107 million in stimulus money to a wind farm in her state. No big deal except that it is owned and operated by her brother and the rest of her family. How about Gifford from Arizona who was invited by Pelosi on one of her overseas trips to Demark. No big deal for two Reps to go if they had legitamte business to conduct. However both brought family and friends on the tax payer's dime.

Actually, I saved that list for some one like you to discover. In no way does your list compare to the number of crocked republicans backed by crooked corporations and global companies who can be unearthed.

Also at the moment in regards to Maxine Water those are allegations the mean spirited Republicans just love because Rep Waters was helping minorities in her districts. Republicans just can't have that.

As for lobbyist, didn't the current President say that there would be none in his White House? Go check to see how many actually got hired by the anti-lobbyist Obama.

Know what you are talking about before you strike. they were allowed to stay until their terms end.

Bev,

You getting your information from Sesame Street or Al Jazeer?

Just would like to know so I can see where you are getting this stuff from.

It took Barack 700 million to get elected.

StormerF, actually all it took was Sarah Palin.

Good one Mike!

lmaoooooooooooooo great one mike

And I'm laughing at the Whitman camp if they think the Hispanic vote (in CA) is THAT unimportant! Gimme a break Repugs. Ms. Whitman better invest in "Rosetta Stone" and put on her "back-track" sandals if she hopes to turn the Hispanic view of her around....

Jeffery, You should give the hispanic voters more credit. They are obviously brighter than someone stereotyping individual views by race.

Lisa, dear ~ please get in tune with the law. I heard a report that Ms. Whitman had reason to know the woman was here illegally. Once that's the case, you can't fall back on your "technical" ignorance; you have a legal obligation as an employer to check it out. It isn't very hard to do, especially for someone who ran a corporation and claims to be qualified for Congress.

Maybe, before the election, someone should quiz her on "how a bill becomes a law."

I'm the one who would be laughing hard, if only the amount of ignorance -- or is it just more hypocrisy from the holier-than-thou, law-and-order crowd -- being displayed around here was funny.

"how a bill becomes a law."

Let's keep it simple for Lisa - I am only a bill... sitting here on Capital Hill...

Really Anna?

"please get in tune with the law. I heard a report"

So you heard a report right? I really hope you never hear a report about fish walking in the desert with fangs that are man eaters. You would really panic then!

Lisa,,hope you peeeeeee your pants lolol

Bravo.

Or, better yet Mitchj....how about a good ole fashioned Quran burning? Do you even know the definition of Socialist?? (Hint: You can Google it...)

thanks professor. were so much better off with Chardonnaysipping, brie eating, intellectual elites like you running the country. (Hint: your the minority, no longer in power, and no longer taken seriously)

Mitch ~ what could intellectual elites possibly care about whether you take them seriously, having just identified yourself as no intellectual? What intellectual elites care about is letting ignorant anti-intellectuals take charge of government.

Witness Congress as a prime example of what happens then.

Mitch...you sound like a tired-a$$ed, overplayed, beat-down stump ad. You and yours are one of the reasons there is so much unrest in this country. We're the minority?? We're no longer in power?? Oh, this is your "hope" for November. Good luck with that.

Jeffery, you sound like a fat-a$$ed, over payed, union thumping, typical liberal driving a BMW to make up for your short comings.

See, we all have opinions.

How DARE you say I have a fat a$$!!!

Yea ,..she believes in spending her money,not my tax dollars.So you like spacewalker Brown,good luck.

Yes I do, thank you for wishing me luck.

Dave D ~ Not the end of the story. The law requires that if an employer has reason to believe an individual is not legally authorized to work in this country, even if they have what looks like a valid social security number, they have a duty to follow up. The only question is whether Whitman had enough reason. I heard she did. It's a pretty simple matter after that to check it out.

As for getting sick of cr@p, the sort of diversionary blame-shifting tactic that you're using ("pointing to another wrong" is the formal name of the logical fallacy), certainly qualifies as cr@p in my book. If Whitman had reason to know she was employing an illegal alien and failed to follow up, then she was wrong, and if anything U.S. voters should be getting sick of THAT cr@p. What Allred does or doesn't do isn't relevant to that issue. It's curious to hear a republican defend someone who employed an illegal alien, possibly knowingly. I always thought that's what you were against.

Hypocrisy in service of expediency, thy name is republican.

Dave,..You can not be that stupid,to believe a Billionaire does the taxes for hired help,can you?

Dave for 9 years you dont know who you have in your house for 9 years! Living with you on almost a daily basis...hmm sounds like having a pastor which you only see on some sundays cause you don't attend church regular. This is the stuff you want to let slide for someone you like who you support yet President Obama is supposed to know about and be responsible for everything his pastor does and thinks. If Whitman can be excused for having a housekeeper so long so close to her then the same courtesy should have been given to the President but I didn't see you posting in his defense. Or is that part of whats making you the voter sick.

Oh and the Democrats are allowing Gloria Allred to go after Meg Whitman? Now that's a joke, a conspiracy cooked up in your own head. Anyone who puts them self in the spotlight will be vetted and if there's anything in their background that can be scrutinized it will be. So quit crying when she decided to run for office this is part of that decision. There's a song that says "sweep around your own front door before you try to sweep around mine" All politicians should honor that song.

One of the main reasons California is in financial trouble is, besides the national recession, that Proposition 13 has kept revenues at 1980s levels with costs at 2010. Could you survive on what you made in 1980? Jerry Brown opposed Prop. 13 because he was wise enough to see this mess in the future. Thanks Howard Jarvis and his tax slashers for no money to run our state.

Adler, apparently you don't live in California since your don't seem to know anything about proposition 13. It has not kept revenues at 1980 levels and there have been a lot of fees and taxes since proposition 13. Proposition 13 only pertains to property taxes. Before you drink the spout the party line you might want to make sure you know what you are talking about. Jerry Brown opposed prop 13 because he wanted to continue speeding money supporting his liberal agenda and the labor unions. The only reason Brown is running today is he was recruited by the unions as the democrats best choice. God help California if Brown is elected and we maintain a democratic controlled legislature.

Meg Whitman thought she had covered herself because she used an agency, and because she fired her employee when she found out (from the employee herself) that the employee was not legally able to work. At that point, Ms. Whitman had a dilemma -- should she report the agency for sending her someone with falsified documents? should she report the employee? -- those are the things she says on the campaign trail -- hold employers accountable! no amnesty! -- but in person, she found that hard to do. Here was a woman who was a valued employee, whom she trusted implicitly (care of house, children, probably car keys) and who was doing a good job. If she didn't have the heart to send the law after her housekeeper, why should she expect other businesses and people to do so? And again, she was head of Ebay for several years so employment issues can't be new to her -- who cleans and maintains the Ebay offices?

How is one still considered temp help after nine years? At what point did Whitman become her fulltime employer and assume responisibility to verify her legal status?

The temp agency most likely set the employee up with the fake documents, but if Meg brought her aboard as a fulltime employee, I would think she would draw up new tax forms and reverify her status since the housekeeper was no longer a temp agengy employee. That means she had become a fulltime employee of Whitman's and would require new paperwork be drawn up.

The employment agency connects people who are looking for work with people who want to hire. Meg Whitman is the one that hired and paid the maid, not the agency. The story says employment agency, not temp agency.

Unfortunately one of them will win, even if the vote is 1-0.

And that's different from how it is now...?

How about this....Meg is a billionaire...why was she going for the "cheap labor" when she has the money to pay twice the amount she was paying the illegal. This is typical. She wouldn't be facing any of this garbage nor would her hypocrisy be blasted across the airwaves had she gone to, insisted upon and hired an "American".

$23 an hour to clean a house is CHEAP LABOR?

Now I KNOW you are dazed and confused in CA.

Hey Jeffery,

Get your fact right before you spout your garbage. Whitmen went though an agency and was paying this person $23.00 per hour. I don't consider that cheap labor. Then when she found out this person lied and is an illegal she fired her. Why this illegal is still on our soil and not deported is a testimony of the political dis-ingeniousness of the Left.