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Democrats are deploying negative ads “far earlier than ever before,” the New York Times writes, “using lawsuits, tax filings, reports from the Better Business Bureau and even divorce proceedings to try to discredit their opponents and save their Congressional majority.”
“Mitt Romney called out President Obama yesterday at a state GOP convention where Republicans vowed to capitalize on voter anger and take back the state and nation,” the New Hampshire Union Leader writes of Romney’s trip to the presidential bellwether state this weekend. “Romney, a 2008 presidential contender sounding like the 2012 candidate most political observers expect him to be, said Obama is at war with private enterprise in America.”
CALIFORNIA: “Democrat Jerry Brown has moved into a narrow lead over Republican Meg Whitman [49%-44%] in their fractious contest for governor, while his party colleague Barbara Boxer has opened a wider margin over GOP nominee Carly Fiorina [51%-43%] in the race for U.S. Senate, a new Los Angeles Times/USC poll has found,” the L.A. Times writes.
CONNECTICUT: The New York Times magazine pinpoints why political newcomers like Linda McMahon have a chance at winning, even, in McMahon’s case, in an especially institution-friendly state like Connecticut: voters’ newfound lack of faith in the establishment. “It is something McMahon, having built a megaentertainment business without the imprimatur of cultural arbiters, intuitively understood about politics. The more her party’s leadership tried to write her off, the more Democrats scoffed at her candidacy, the more viable she became.”
FLORIDA: “A new poll indicates that no-party candidate Gov. Charlie Crist has faded in the state's three-way Senate race, allowing Republican Marco Rubio to extend his lead,” the Tampa Tribune writes. “It shows Rubio with a 12-point lead – 40 percent to 28 percent for Crist, 23 percent for Meek and 9 percent undecided.”
KENTUCKY: The campaign strategies of Republican Rand Paul, who rails against Washington and Democrat Jack Conway, who touts his work within the state, are an example of the dynamic between candidates of different parties across the country, the Washington Post writes. Kentucky “represent[s] perhaps the starkest divide in the country on these divergent approaches.”
MASSACHUSETTS: “The latest poll on the Massachusetts governor’s race shows Republican Charles Baker and incumbent Democrat Gov. Deval Patrick in a statistical tie for first place,” local radio station WBUR writes. Patrick has 35% support and Baker has 34%.
NEW YORK: The Times profiles GOP gubernatorial nominee Carl Paladino. Paladino, the papers says, “seemed to emerge from nowhere to capture the Republican nomination for governor, a political unknown who became a vessel for Tea Party-tinged anger against insiders and incumbents. But for decades he has been an outsize, impulsive and often outrageous figure: polarizing in his politics, relentless in amassing his real estate empire and irrepressible in seeking to impose his will on civic life.”
“Interviews with dozens of people who know him — friends, relatives, admirers and adversaries — revealed a highly emotional man who oscillates between cursing his enemies and crying over his friends’ sorrows, who believes in elbows-out confrontation no matter the cost and whose lifelong dealings with the government have fueled his enormous wealth and his bottomless rage.”
NEVADA: “Democrat Rory Reid continues to chisel away at Republican Brian Sandoval's lead in the Nevada governor's race,” the Las Vegas Review-Journal reports, noting that Reid’s deficit with Sandoval has decreased from 52%-36% to 53%-13%.
NEW MEXICO: “Democrat Diane Denish has picked up speed in the race for governor of New Mexico and has surged into a tie with Republican Susana Martinez, according to a poll taken for Vote New Mexico PAC by Third Eye Strategies,” Politico writes. *** UPDATE *** An operative for Martinez casts doubt on the veracity of this poll, noting Denish released a poll less than a week ago from her own pollster, Stan Greenberg, that showed her down 5.
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I just want to say, kudos to NBC for their spotlight on education this weekend. I watched Meet The Press Sunday, and then I happened to catch Brian Williams's forum with educators at noon, when I was at the gym. I lasted a half an hour longer on the elliptical because I was riverted by what the teachers had to say about the educational system.
MTP with David Gregory was excellent, excellent, excellent on Sunday. I almost feel as if someone listened to me, when I complained that I wasn't leanring anything new watching the Sunday shows. Yesterday's show had substance and new faces. Keep up the good work!
Obama, Pelosi, Reid, and the rest of the Democrats in Congress still do not get it and probably never will:
The American people and American small business want lower taxes for EVERYONE while Obama, Pelosi, Reid, and the rest of the Democrats will raise taxes on some and probably everyone to pay for the reckless spending they put in place.
The American people and American small business want smaller government while Obama, Pelosi, Reid, and the rest of the Democrats have and plan to continue to greatly increase the size of government.
The American people and American small business want less government intervention into their lives and private affaires while Obama, Pelosi, Reid, and the rest of the Democrats will continue to expand onerous regulation which raises costs, reduces the standard of living, and inhibits job growth.
The American people and American small business did not want the so-called healthcare reform while Obama, Pelosi, Reid, and the rest of the Democrats continue to ignore how this law will cost the American people and small businesses more, reduce choice in healthcare, and restrict access to healthcare for many people.
The current Administration and current Congress must realize a large portion of the American people are fed up with high taxes, big government, and obtrusive government meddling in the private lives of people, business, and the economy. The American people what lower taxes, lower government spending, and smaller government.
As long as our government continues the reckless spending, high taxes, and unprecedented meddling with businesses, we cannot expect real long term growth.
The Congress and current Administration have put the country on a course of reckless government spending that has mortgaged the future of all Americans especially future generations. The only way to fix this long term structural problem is to create a pro-growth atmosphere for business. To do this we must reduce taxes NOW. How many different taxes does a business or individual pay on a regular basis? We must eliminate number and complexity of all these taxes and reduce the tax burden.
We also need to end the micro-management of business and the economy. Until we GREATLY reduce the tax burden on business and consumers and remove the senseless regulations that accomplish little in relation to the cost they impose, our future is bleak.
REMEMBER IN NOVEMBER...VOTE THEM OUT!!!
Angry,
You seem to not have all of the facts.
1. Taxes are lower now than at any other point in the last 60 years.
2. People overwhelmingly (some 70%) WANTED Health Care Reform, they just wanted MORE things in it, like a Single Payer option which would have Really helped to limit insurance pricing.
3. We are in a high state of National Debt because Bush went on a major spending spree and Cut Taxes at the same time, NOT because Pres. Obama has had to spend a tiny fraction of what Bush did, in order to keep us out of a full blown depression. Bush added some 6-7 Trillion dollars to the National Debt, part of why Pres. Obama's budget is showing a deficit is because he actually put the 2 wars onto the books, instead of keeping them 'off budget' like Bush did. This alone added $1 Trillion to the deficit, which is the amount that Bush had kept off budget with his 'unfunded' wars.
4. It is the Repub and T-Partiers that are more interested in overbearing government with their wanting to make Gays illegal, force pregnant women to carry to term even if the father raped her or it was a matter of incest, and even go so far as to make masturbation illegal. It is the right wing that is so very intrusive, remember Terri Schiavo?
5. Actually, the regulations being implemented by this Admin are mostly just taking things back to where they were before Bush went on a heavy de-regulation spree and used his signing statements and the Unitary Executive theory to remove an unprecedented number of regulations that were all designed to keep us safe: safe from financial collapse, safe from oil spills and pollution, safe from faulty cars, safe from wiretapping and overbearing 'Intelligence' services etc. etc. etc....
6. While we do pay taxes, we also enjoy a Great number of benefits from them, such as police and fire departments, schools, roads, bridges, sewer and waste disposal systems, airports, we have regulations in place to keep our food safe through inspections, we have the Military, electricity and phone services, we have the safety nets of Social Security and Medicare/Medicaid and the VA health system. There are so very many things that we rely on daily that we do not even think about how they were paid for, yet some people go on and on about taxes being too high. The wealthy pay FAR less than the 90% tax of the '50s and early '60s. We actually have one of the lowest tax rates in the World, and our public expects to get a lot more from it than most other Nations.
7. In order to get us out of the heavy debt that we are presently in, the tax rates are going to Have to go up. President Obama is working to keep them low for those whose incomes are below the $200K/$250K bracket as the people making less than that are struggling to survive. Those making more than that never need to worry as they are the Too-Rich-To-Fail crowd that game the tax system anyhow. They can AFFORD to pay higher taxes now, and since they have NOT been producing more jobs, like they were supposed to from the tax cuts, they can afford to pay the 3.5%-4% tax increase and hardly even notice it.
8. Until the Banks sart loaning to the small businesses and the corporations start using their obscene profits to hire new workers and to pay them ALL a Living Wage (one that will allow a single worker to support a family, house, car and all of the other payments too) then this Nation will be stuck in the recession. It is not a matter of the tax rates at all, it is a matter of the Banks, Corporations and the Too-Rich-To-Fail Club working with the Repubs to make President Obama look bad with a bad economy that is NOT his fault. It is the fault of our "Corporate and Banking Leaders" along with the obstructive Repubs in Congress that have kept us from recovering from this severe recession faster. Had they actually worked With President Obama then we would be well on the way back to a prosperous economy. Instead they have drug their feet, obstructed at every turn and failed to lend or hire and have tried very hard to make SURE that the economy fails so that they can use this as a weapon against Pres. Obama. You need to assign blame to the right places because it is NOT the Dems that have been causing the problems with our economy, and it is not the taxes that cause the problems.
I see you have bought all of the Obama, Pelosi, Reid, and the rest of the Democrats in Congress propaganda. The American people clearly DID NOT WANT the type of healthcare so-called reform that was passed using backroom deals without transparency by Obama, Pelosi, Reid, and the rest of the Democrats in Congress.
The miss-named "stimulus" has turned out to be a waste of money that has not don anything to fix the economy but has greatly increased the size of government and created a huge debt problem for future generations (your children).
The American people clearly want lower taxes, smaller government, and less government intervention. If you don't see it now, you will see it after the election.
As long as our government continues the reckless spending, high taxes, and unprecedented meddling with businesses, we cannot expect real long term growth.
The Congress and current Administration have put the country on a course of reckless government spending that has mortgaged the future of all Americans especially future generations. The only way to fix this long term structural problem is to create a pro-growth atmosphere for business. To do this we must reduce taxes NOW. How many different taxes does a business or individual pay on a regular basis? We must eliminate number and complexity of all these taxes and reduce the tax burden.
We also need to end the micro-management of business and the economy. Until we GREATLY reduce the tax burden on business and consumers and remove the senseless regulations that accomplish little in relation to the cost they impose, our future is bleak.
REMEMBER IN NOVEMBER...VOTE THEM OUT!!!
Angry,
Just repeating the same old, worn out lies does not make it any more true! The Repub's new "Pledge" is just a repeat of the same old, tired, worn out lies that they have been telling us for decades, and they have PROVEN that they are not to be trusted, that they CANNOT Govern and that they represent only the top 2% of the greedy Too-Rich-To-Fail Club instead of the rest of us.
Obviously you are one that has totally been taken by the Repub's Propaganda Machine..Hook, Line and Sinker!
B. Honest - I don't think that Angry Mob Voter can help himself.
Proof is in the pudding...Dems are either in the lead or closing gaps in all polls. Independents are reasonable and smart and see that the Republicans/Tea partiers that are running do not have any answers to the issues we are facing. Women want to have the right to have a choice not forced to carry and deliver a child in cases of incest and rape. THERE IS A CLEAR CHOICE NOW THAT THE "DUST" IS SETTLLING AND THESES REPUBLICANS SHOW WHAT THEY ARE ABOUT. Old recycled ideas and policies that do nothing for middleclass families in 2010 but keep them minimized and BROKE working paycheck to paycheck on a worthless hourly wage. YES...bring on NOV so we can continue to move forward not backwards! Support HCR/CreditCard reform/Wallstreet reform/Education Reform/Auto industry bailout and stimulus which saved MILLIONS of jobs. Lets keep moving forward...GET OUT AND VOTE IN NOV
What are you smoking??? You are not looking at the polls. You will have to face reality the morning after the election. Obama, Pelosi, Reid, and the rest of the Democrats in Congress still do not understand they are acting against the will of the American people. Ultimate power resides with the American people. If Obama, Pelosi, Reid, and the rest of the Democrats in Congress continue to act contrary to the will of the people, the people will vote them out. It is that simple.
REMEMBER IN NOVEMBER...VOTE THEM OUT!!!
In what ways are President Obama, Madame Speak Pelosi, and Majorit Leader Sen. Reid 'continuing to act contrary the the will of the people'?
Looks to me that President Obama got 53% of the vote. Looks to me that the 'will of the people' has been aptly represented.
If you think I am wrong, I am happy to debate that fact with you.
If you can.
AngryMobVoter You ever post anything on the blogasphere when bush was in office or did you just learn how to use a computer last year to post your propaganda.I am American and I am for health care reform. You can spout all the crap you want about how this admin this and this admin that but when it all boils down its just trumped up fear and anger for nothing that was created by the opposing side to get people like you to post crap like that to get people all in an uproar for them to get power back. So when you say the Democrats don't get it, and that the American people don't want what they are doing, speak for your self or your party. Its more like the Republicans don't want it because its actually going to do good and make a change and God forbid that happens in the hands of a Dem to prove Repubs wrong once and for all. You mean to tell me that for the past two years with all these rallies and fake tea party movement rabble all they could come up with is the same old pledge that did not work in 1994,give me a break.
I am an American and I say yes to:
Heath care reform
Wall street reform
Repeal Don't ask Don't Tell and let them defend our country
Expire the tax cuts for rich
Extend tax breaks for the middle and lower class
Reform our education system
Rebuild America's infrastructure i.e (roads,bridges,railroads,air traffic systems...ect)
You say no to that your just blind,brainwashed or misinformed or your just trying to misinform others.
Everyone keeps bring up Bush. BUSH IS NOT THE PRESIDENT, OBAMA IS. The Democrats control the Congress. Obama, Pelosi, Reid, and the rest of the Democrats in Congress have implemented reckless spending in the name of "stimulus" yet the unemployment situation got worse.
Obama, Pelosi, Reid, and the rest of the Democrats in Congress intended to pass whatever they want without concern if it is CONTRARY TO THE WILL OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.
The last I checked, the lower and middle class do not create jobs, it is higher income people who take risks and put up capital to start and expand businesses and HIRE PEOPLE. If Obama, Pelosi, Reid, and the rest of the Democrats in Congress raise their taxes, they WILL HIRE LESS people. The local janitor does not create jobs, it is the owner of the janitorial service who hires people.
The American people clearly want lower taxes, smaller government, and less government intervention. If you don't see it now, you will see it after the election.
As long as our government continues the reckless spending, high taxes, and unprecedented meddling with businesses, we cannot expect real long term growth.
The Congress and current Administration have put the country on a course of reckless government spending that has mortgaged the future of all Americans especially future generations. The only way to fix this long term structural problem is to create a pro-growth atmosphere for business. To do this we must reduce taxes NOW. How many different taxes does a business or individual pay on a regular basis? We must eliminate number and complexity of all these taxes and reduce the tax burden.
We also need to end the micro-management of business and the economy. Until we GREATLY reduce the tax burden on business and consumers and remove the senseless regulations that accomplish little in relation to the cost they impose, our future is bleak.
REMEMBER IN NOVEMBER...VOTE THEM OUT!!!
"Reform" does not mean reckless spending that is so inefficient and ineffective it is virtually wasted. "Reform" does not mean greatly increasing the size of an inefficient government. "Reform" does not mean rasing taxes on the very people who create jobs especially when we have an unemployment problem. When I say the "American people want", I am referring to a clear majority. It seems you, like Obama, Pelosi, Reid, and the rest of the Democrats in Congress still do not understand that but you will after the election.
I think it is funny people keep talking about a middle income tax cut. The taxes have already been cut. Obama, Pelosi, Reid, and the rest of the Democrats in Congress want RAISE taxes on the very Americans who create jobs!
REMEMBER IN NOVEMBER...VOTE THEM OUT!!!
Chill,
Obviously this Angry person is trying to disinform others. He seems to forget that a clear Majority of people elected the Dems to a Majority in Congress and President Obama to Office as well. By passing the laws that they have been they HAVE been 'doing the will of The People' and in fact, being more responsive to Everyone's needs; left, right and center. He keeps complaining about raising taxes on those that 'create jobs'...if they are creating so many jobs with their hoarded wealth, WHERE ARE THEY??
He is just another right wing ranter and not worth listening to I am afraid. In fact, he almost seems like one of those paid right wing trolls with a list of talking points in front of him to REPeat-the-lies-to-the-PUBLICAN. Someone who can intelligently debate is one thing, someone who tries to win their argument by repeating the same thing over and over, louder and louder, is another thing entirely!
Actually, Angry Mob Voter, everyone keeps bringing up President Bush because he set the TRACK RECORD of what Republicans will do when they are in charge. You see, before we hand the keys back to the GOP in November, we, the American electorate, want to be SURE that we don't hand the keys to someone that will hurt us or themselves in the process of running the country.
Now, we are looking at President Bush's term (much to your chargrin) because the same people who want the keys NOW are the same people who HAD the keys then. We saw how 'responsible' that the GOP was when they had the keys. We came within DAYS of crashing the economic system of the WORLD - not the US, but the world.
Balderdash, you say. That is not true.
Well, I beg to differ. It was under President Bush - with Treasury Secretary Paulson - that put forth a THREE PAGE bill asking for $700 BILLION dollars to stave off the worst economic collapse in history. You will find in Secretary Paulson's book that TARP was against ALL of his ideaology (he sounded a lot like you do) but he HAD to ask for a HANDOUT - from the GOVERNMENT - because the WORLD's economic system was about to crash.
To make matters even worse, President Bush REALLY didn't know what to do. President Bush allowed then President-Elect Obama - during his term, mind you - craft a solution for the impending economic crash. Since when does a sitting President cede power to a President-Elect for anything?
So, AngryMob Voter, we have a history here if mismanagement, lack of knowledge of what to do, and lack of backbone to deal with an American problem. President Bush could not give the keys of the country to then President-Elect Omaba FAST ENOUGH.
With that track record - where the PREVIOUS HEAD of the Republican party basically threw the keys to the President-Elect because he did not knowwhat to do - we are going to give the keys of the country back to the GOP?
If the GOP was bidding on a job - or applying for a job - with your company, and they had this sort of track record, you would be loathe to hire them. You would be wary of the company if they were bidding on a job.
So, AngryMobVoter, I am loathe we give the keys back to the GOP because they have proven that they DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH THE KEYS WHEN THEY HAVE THEM.
You can continue to talk about Madame Speaker Pelosi and Majority Leader Reid all you want, but they were NOT the ones that threw the keys to President-Elect Obama and said ' here - it's your problem now.'
So, until we get SOME indication that the GOP will know what to do with the keys to the country, then they will sit on the bench until they get their act together. The American people - the electorate - MANDATED that this direction be taken in 2008 by 53% of the vote and a win in the electoral college.
So, we can stay with whom we have - and save the country - or we can give the keys back to the ones that had no clue as how to save the country when the country needed them.
I think the American electorate will make the right choice in November.
I'm betting on it.
Angry,
Who pi!!ed in your cheerios this afternoon!!!
AngryMobVoter, you really need to learn about economics before you start these rants. Do you know the first thing about supply and demand? Do you understand anything about macroeconomics and how taxes that are too low are just as bad as taxes that are too high? How about how too little regulation causes bubbles and too much can hinder the economy? Somehow I do not think that you know anything about these things because of what you posted. I could be wrong but then that would mean that you are deliberately lying.
If you are not making over $250,000.00/year, then you, sir are ranting against the very policies that are there for your benefit and advocating for policies that will take money out of your pocket and food off your table. Educate yourself, there are many links provided by those opposed to your view where you will find the truth of the matter and see how badly you are being lied to by the Republicans and the TEA Party backers (i.e. Koch brothers).
Matthew, you really should know better than to reason with an ANGRY MOB voter. I mean, anyone with a moniker like that should tell you that he is part of a MOB, a non-thinking entity where everyone in that entity does what the entity wants without any thought.
Personally, I think that Angry Mob is upset that his 'side' was FIRED in 2008 by the American electorate. Firings can be so TRAUMATIC...
Just call me Don Quixote.
Thank you! And thank you to B Honest as well.
Matthew:
Perhaps a brilliant economist like yourself will honestly consider the following:
1) Economics is about the production and allocation of goods and services (specifically, food, labor, lumber, oil, etc)
2) The government does not produce goods and services. Government impliments its policies by confiscating and allocating goods and services, based on its policy objectives.
3) Since the government does not produce goods and services, all government activity is funded entirely by resources that government has conficated, or taxed, from the private sector.
4) Government is a political institution. Accordingly, it allocates resources that are put at its disposal, on the basis of political criteria. Government decision making with regard to allocation of goods and services is made entirely on the basis of political criteria. These decisions are frequently made with indifference to and sometimes in opposition to, prevailing market forces. Expressed another way, governement allocates resources in a way that is devoid of market discipline.
5) By allocating resources on the basis of political criteria, and in a manner that is incompatible with market forces, government diverts resources from the enterprises that produce goods and services, to those that don't. Such decisions reduce incentives to produce goods and services.
6) When production of goods and services is reduced, we are poorer. One might add that a reduction in production of goods and services, is know in common parlance, as a "recession."
7) Now, with more than thirty percent of the workforce on some kind of government payroll, and with growth in government spending on a high upward pitch, it is prudent to ask whether the private sector can support an ever growing government, and still support itself. The flat recovery that we are experiencing right now suggests that perhaps the private sector is just about at its limit.
7) In sum, if you want to have a good economy, you have to make decisions that make economic sense. Those of us that oppose the expiration of the "Bush tax cuts" do not do so because we love rich people. Rather, we oppose the expiration of the Bush tax cuts because we oppose the ever expanding diversion of resources away from the private sector; that segment of our society that produces goods and services, and toward government; that segment of our society that does not.
That concludes today's lesson. For homework, please write a paper on one of the following topics: 1) Is socialism compatible with private property? or 2) What is the relationship between market economics and private property?
Bob, you are proof that children do not belong in a teaching role. Before presuming to assign homework, you need to demonstrate that you have a mastery of the subject yourself. Your post proves that you need to take some economics and logic classes.
First off, you start with three false premises: 1) that I am an economist (I'm not, I'm an engineer), 2) that government confiscates goods and services and 3) that the government does not produce goods and services.
Since I've already addressed the first, let me move on to the second.
The very word 'confiscate' implies a misappropriation or illegal act. The government has a Constitutional right to levy taxes and a Constitutional obligation to provide for the general welfare of the nations population. Therefore, any of your premises based upon this false assumption are null, void and moot.
To say the government does not produce goods or services is a clear indication that you do not understand the world around you. The government provides law enforcement (a service), defense (a service), infrastructure maintenance (oh look, another service), governance (and yet another service) not to mention teachers, fire fighters and medical research to name just a few. One could also argue that through the support work of the military, law enforcement and infrastructure maintenance/building activities, government causes products to be produced. Products like buildings, ships, armaments, clothing, road maintenance and building equipment, schools and all of the other accouterments these activities require.
Which actually brings us back around to you 'confiscation' idea. Confiscation is taking without return but with everything the government provides, we are getting quite a bit back for our tax dollars.
Now, Bob, let me school you on something called supply and demand. It is really quite simple so try to keep up. To justify having a supply, there must be demand. Was that simple enough for you to understand? Let me explain the implications of this. The best way to grow the economy is to put money into peoples hands that will create a demand. The people who will most likely spend the money to create this demand is the middle class and the poor. Which is more likely to create more demand for more widgets? A large tax break for 2% of the population or a large tax break for 98% of the population?
There is actually another concept that you allude to that has no basis in reality and that is the myth of an efficient or rational market. Economists have been trying to prove that since Adam Smith's day and have failed. Try reading 'The Myth of the Rational Market' written by Justin Fox for a history of this myth.
You are correct, however, about government economic policy being somewhat political in nature. Unfortunately, most of our politicians are not educated in economics and make the wrong decisions, look what happened when the Republicans were in control of both houses and the presidency. They implemented policies that you have advocated on this board and brought about the worst recession since the depression and almost took the entire world's economy down with it.
We need regulation, smart targeted regulation but definitely regulation. The market is not rational nor efficient and greed is a strong motivator in man. We need taxes, too little taxes is almost worse than too much. We had some of our highest GDP growth when the top tax rates were above 50%. We may have had a higher GDP growth if they had been lower, because the Republicans screwed up the economy so very badly, we need to temporarily have higher taxes. The interest payment on the debt alone would fund over half the departments the Republicans want to eliminate as "wasteful".
So, Bob, when you have passed economics 101, then you can come back and play with the big boys. When you get your degree, you can assign homework. Until then, you might want to listen rather than talk.
Actually, the name says it all, Angry Mob Voter. A group or a crowd is made up of individuals w/ individual thought. A mob is made up of folks who have surrendered their individual thought and belief process to the "group think" and their talking points. Add in anger, and that just further pollutes and reduces the rationality of even the group think.
The name does say it all. The voter in America are ANGRY about the direction Obama, Pelosi, Reid, and the rest of the Democrats in Congress are taking the country and those ANGRY people are going to be VOTERS in November. Yet Obama, Pelosi, Reid, and the rest of the Democrats in Congress still refuse to acknowledge they must be response to the voters or they will be voted out.
REMEMBER IN NOVEMBER...VOTE THEM OUT!!!
Actually, the American voter is not ANGRY - they are TIRED of listening to the GOP and the Tea Party blather on and on and on about how GREAT they will be. The GOP even crafted a 'Pledge' that they will 'be good' and do what is necessary for the country THIS TIME. In the meantime, we see that 'the Pledge' is a LEMON - recirculated and recycled talking points that are short on substance and long on rhetoric.
The only ANGRY voters that I see are the GOP and Tea Party voters who are pissed that the American people FIRED THEM for their gross incompetence from 2001 through 2008. They 'want THEIR country back' because the American people decided with 53% of the vote that the GOP was incompetent.
Am I wrong?
Not hardly. The GOP was FIRED in 2008 - loss of control of the House, loss of majority in the Senate and the White House went Democratic.
It's kinda hard to deal with when the American electorate tells the GOP to 'GET LOST', isn't it?
Actually they are ANGRY at Obama, Pelosi, Reid, and the rest of the Democrats in Congress for ignoring their. If you think otherwise you have your head buried in the sand. That ANGER is going to make them VOTERS in November.
You are ignoring the polls and the results of the elections that have taken place already. The ANGER of the VOTERS has spoken already and will continue to speak as long as Obama, Pelosi, Reid, and the rest of the Democrats in Congress continue to ignore their will.
REMEMBER IN NOVEMBER...VOTE THEM OUT!!!
Actually, Angry Mod Voter, I am quite enjoying you AVOIDING my points that are refuting yours. That's kinda like the Tea Party, correct? Continue to 'stay on message' and DON'T ANSWER any questions. Don't try and debate a point.
Actually, No, I am not ignoring anything. The last election we had the American people - 53% of them - wanted a CHANGE and voted for the direction we are going in.
It's pretty funny that the GOP was FIRED and the head of the GOP at the time all of a suddent didn't want the job because there was a catastrophe that was brewing. It took a Democrat taking the keys of the country to stop the bleeding.
The only anger I see is that of the people who are SICK and TIRED of the GOP and the Teap Party making all of that NOISE.
The next election is November 2nd, in case you missed it.
I am a democrat and voted that way all the way back to
Adli Steverson. I have had enought of the current bunch
in Washington. Obama is to self centered to listen to anyone
and the current office holders get in line behind polisi and reid
and stop thinking about who elected them in the first place.
It would be nice to send them all home and start over as
with a govermrnt of the people by yhe people.
I don't care how you vote Just vote!!!
As for me I will vote the first time for a repuiblican (and it hurts)
Oldtime,
Considering that you state that you are a Democrat and then go on to complain about ONLY Dems, instead of the current crop of clueless and obstructive Repubs, I can only conclude that you are, in fact, NOT Dem at all, but are just posting that way to try to make a VERY Repub point. Considering the amount of misspelling in your post I would put your age at around 20, making you an actually PAID Repub Troll Operative as well....Good Try, though it is much too transparent!
Oldtime,
I am an Independent, and fully agree with you. Obama's socialist agenda is absolutely disastrous for the (legal) citizens of the USA. Lets hope some more of you Dems have actually opened your eyes and see the nymphomaniacal-spender-in-chief for what he is. Democrat or Republican, a super-majority in congress has no accountability, and can only harm the American taxpayers.
Independent - I would haev considered your post if you had not tried to throw in the dog-whistle word of SOCIALIST. Your other characterisation ('nymphomaniacal-spender-in-chief') makes no sense whatsoever and really makes us wonder about you.
A LOT.
SO, I'll pass... nothing to see here... STTS
You are so correct ETCO, the GOP are the ones spouting all the lies about everything they can think of.
They say they want smaller government, but are the first ones to call for help when their state has a disaster. I have never seen such a bunch politians so eager to get back in office that they will tell untruths to people that no doubt believe all the lies. It has to stop somewhere.
JoAnn
It never will because all they want to do is get back in power....that's the only thing on their minds!!!
You must get your news from msnbc.
I have seem numerous presidencies over the years. This is the first one that was able to coin the title Liar-in-Chief. Sure, all presidents lie. But Obama takes the blue ribbon by a thousan miles.
Let me say ditto to B Honest and "chill".
I second that!!!
I third(?) that and voted.
Thanks Folks, I jus' calls 'em as I sees 'em!
The Republican cry now is, “we know what to do – put us in charge”. The rational response to that of course is to question why they would have kept it secret so long and just criticized and obstructed everything. They have consistently put their political ambitions above all else, at any cost to the people, and have said and done everything to rationalize their positions and to manipulate public opinion – without hesitation or conscience. Why should anyone now believe something has changed? No, their concentration actually has constantly been on just being ‘puppets’ for Special Interests and the select few who strongly support them and who ‘pull their strings’ and there is nothing to indicate there has been any change in that. They want to repeal all of the changes already made, which would put us right back to where we were, and they want us to believe they would then turn around and make appropriate changes, those that they have strongly faulted and resisted all along and that their supporters don’t want. They may now admit that changes are really required but with their history and demonstrated loyalty to the very few, while giving only subterfuge to the many, there isn’t any real justification to believe that they want anything other than to return to ‘more of the same’ that cost us so much and that serves only the few. There is simply no honest or conscientious base established to justify trusting them, in fact, the last ten years has provided ample justification to not trust them. Their rhetoric is completely deceptive and totally insulting in their arrogantly thinking that people are just so easily conned and manipulated.
There is no hope offered in ever returning to ‘more of the same’ as that only satisfies the very few. What we need is the changes being implemented and to see them adjusted and fine tuned and definitely not repealed which would leave us with no progress. The Republicans, regular or Tea Party, offer nothing but a return to ‘more of the same’ and to firmly reject them now, along with their self-serving subterfuge aimed to manipulate, should prompt them to really understand it is about honestly, conscientiously and responsibly representing the people, not just the few and their own political interests.
Republicans....we know what to do - put us in charge. I'm really scared of that!!!!
Kinda sounds like John McCain when he said he knew were Osama Bin Laden is hiding, and if we elect him president, Osams will be FOUND!
The American electorate didn't fall for the okie-doke then, and it will not fall for it now with the GOP and the Tea Party making all that NOISE.
I mean, at LEAST use a different tactic.... sheesh...
Wait, wait, Pietro! Doesn't it sound more like John McCain when he suspended his campaign to go to Washington to deal with the economic crisis? Remember how well that turned out for him?
I remember that... John McCain was going to ride into Washington to SAVE THE DAY.
It ended up that then President-Elect Obama saved the day coordinating the TARP bailout of the Banks and NOT President Bush because he didn't know what to do.
Go Figure.
What you will realize after the election is that the American people did not realize the elected someone who whould ignore the will of the people.
The American people and American small business want lower taxes for EVERYONE while Obama, Pelosi, Reid, and the rest of the Democrats will raise taxes on some and probably everyone to pay for the reckless spending they put in place.
The American people and American small business want smaller government while Obama, Pelosi, Reid, and the rest of the Democrats have and plan to continue to greatly increase the size of government.
The American people and American small business want less government intervention into their lives and private affaires while Obama, Pelosi, Reid, and the rest of the Democrats will continue to expand onerous regulation which raises costs, reduces the standard of living, and inhibits job growth.
The American people and American small business did not want the so-called healthcare reform while Obama, Pelosi, Reid, and the rest of the Democrats continue to ignore how this law will cost the American people and small businesses more, reduce choice in healthcare, and restrict access to healthcare for many people.
The current Administration and current Congress must realize a large portion of the American people are fed up with high taxes, big government, and obtrusive government meddling in the private lives of people, business, and the economy. The American people what lower taxes, lower government spending, and smaller government.
As long as our government continues the reckless spending, high taxes, and unprecedented meddling with businesses, we cannot expect real long term growth.
The Congress and current Administration have put the country on a course of reckless government spending that has mortgaged the future of all Americans especially future generations. The only way to fix this long term structural problem is to create a pro-growth atmosphere for business. To do this we must reduce taxes NOW. How many different taxes does a business or individual pay on a regular basis? We must eliminate number and complexity of all these taxes and reduce the tax burden.
We also need to end the micro-management of business and the economy. Until we GREATLY reduce the tax burden on business and consumers and remove the senseless regulations that accomplish little in relation to the cost they impose, our future is bleak.
REMEMBER IN NOVEMBER...VOTE THEM OUT!!!
Blah, blah, blah, AngryMobVoter. You are still repeating the same disproven talking points and providing no proof or sources for your assertions. In fact, you are just cutting and pasting exactly what you said before. Try turning the page of your troll source book so that we can at least hear some new lies.
Actually you are wrong. I can see how wasteful and inefficient government is. Just look at the salaries and benefits of government employees compared to the private sector. Just look at all the wasteful projects government spends money on. Just look at how much money individuals and businesses spend on useless regulations.
The reckless spending of the last two years has done nothing to fix the unemployment problem but it has saddled the next generation with a huge debt.
Obama, "The Teleprompter President" is and has always been in campaign mode. This Administration and Congress should get out of campaign mode and start working for the American people. This administration and Congress will never understand the middle and low income groups DO NOT CREATE JOBS, they take jobs. It is the upper income groups who create jobs and those groups are not going to create jobs in the face of high taxes, senseless regulation, and uncertainty.
As long as our government continues the reckless spending and unprecedented meddling with businesses, we cannot expect real long term growth.
The Congress and current Administration have put the country on a course of reckless government spending that has mortgaged the future of all Americans especially future generations. The only way to fix this long term structural problem is to create a pro-growth atmosphere for business. To do this we must reduce taxes NOW. How many different taxes does a business or individual pay on a regular basis? We must eliminate number and complexity of all these taxes and reduce the tax burden.
We also need to end the micro-management of business and the economy. Until we GREATLY reduce the tax burden on business and consumers and remove the senseless regulations that accomplish little in relation to the cost they impose, our future is bleak.
REMEMBER IN NOVEMBER...VOTE THEM OUT!!!
The current Congress and Administration has completely ignored the will of the people and used dirty backroom deals to do it. It is time to:
REMEMBER IN NOVEMBER...VOTE THEM OUT!!!
Gee, that sounds familiar.
Didn't Vice President Cheney get all of the oil companies together SECRETLY and make some sort of DEAL while he was Vice-President? Didn't Vice-President Cheney IGNORE THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE when he made that backroom deal with the Oil Companies? I mean, gas DID go up to $4.00 a gallon, did it not?
Nah... that couldn't be him... Vice President Cheney was too HONEST and FORTHCOMING to make a BACKROOM DEAL with Oil companies, correct?
Right?
Let's hear some specifics there, AngryMobVoter. You keep spouting 'reckless spending' and 'government waste' but provide no specific examples. Or how about those government salaries? Remember, their salaries can be looked up on line by anybody since they are government jobs and must be public by law.
So how about it, AngryMobVoter? Wanna go out on a limb and try to prove any of your rant? Wanna go out on a limb and try to show you are not just an angry megaphone for the Republican talking points?
Give it a try, AngryMobVoter, it might even be therapeutic.
Matthew - I bet you FIVE DOLLARS that Angry Mob Voter cannot prove ANY of what he is posting. If Angry Mob Voter can prove ONE THING - just ONE - then I'll pay up.
I have to hand it to him though - he is definitely diciplined when it comes to the GOP talking points.
Kinda like that LEMON 'Pledge' that the GOP trotted out a few days ago.
I wonder if that 'pledge' cleans countertops because it CERTAINLY has no substance to it...
Can't take that bet! Still waiting for a direct answer to any of your or my points or proof of anything from him. JS1 in pants but angrier? (Sorry, couldn't help myself.)
AngryMob,
Your are completely and utterly right the American people are indeed angry, AT You, these bloggers you see trying to reason with you are getting ANGRY AND ANNOYED that you refuse to listen. LISTEN! If you truly want a strong republican party then I suggest you read from where they descended from, Thomas Jefferson then READ Alexander Hamilton then based on whichever one you find most appealing find the party most related. And GET INVOLVED make arguments that don't spout out rhetoric! State why you want smaller government state why!!!! Saying that the other side is full of it gets you no where!
As someone has said before me
Voting is a privilege PLEASE VOTE RESPONSIBLY!
Well said, Hellearn. I would recommend Ron Chernow's Alexander Hamilton's biography. It is large but very comprehensive and extremely easy to read. It draws on some newly found material that has not been previously available as reference material.
Actually, Angry--government employees make pretty much the same wage as anybody else. Civil Service is from a pt GS5 to most of the professionals at a GS9 to an 11 or supervisor at 13 (that is to say those who stuck around despite being forced to sign loyalty clauses to and under W.) County employees make a middle class salary as well. And since we're all pretty much wage paycheck to paycheckers (I assume much like yourself as you don't seem the type that's making over $250,000 per year...) well, we Spend our Money. In our own States, Towns and yes, even our own countries. We buy stuff like Gas and Rent and some Ice Cream sometimes...Unlike the uber-rich who can fly anywhere they want and spend their hard-earned(Not) less taxed dollars in hedge funds and luxury. I kind of like my schools, fire and police protection, my sewers and clean water, my libraries (where I can go to use a computer to apply for jobs if I can no longer afford the Internet...)
But, I digress...
The Democrats' plan will increase economy-spending up approximately 171 billion, while republican "tax cuts" in areas that do Not stimulate the economy will Cost US over One million jobs i.e. Lose and Increase the Deficit by 7 Billion. Billion. Follow the Money.
I just don't Get this Argument. Sooo, I'm beginning to think this whole Discussion here is about Something Else. Something They don't want you to talk about. Oh, wait, it's coming to me. That would be what some call the Culture Wars, which I look at as The R's wanting to dictate and mandate and generally Shove down my Throat how I should think, act, believe, etc. Not the America I know, nor is it the one most of us want.Sooo, Do I detect a whiff ofhypocrisy or, maybe fear, or Oh My, perhaps that awful term that No One Wants to Say Out Loud (bigotry)?
Much of What the TeaPartyGOPs are touting is just stomping all over Crazy Territory.
Thanks again to my Friends at Pooh Corner for the use of the Caps...
The democrats can not run on their accomplishments because they don't have any that the average American wanted. Don't anyone find it strange that the democrats can only run negative ads. Usually the party in power tries and play up their accomplishments. This is one of the dirtiest campaigns I have seen and I have been voting since 1962. I have not seen one democratic ad that touts the HCR, or the stimulus bill or any other accomplishment. Could someone on the left name a democratic candidate that is bragging about their record in the past 2 yrs?
Exactly...watching the Democrats is like watching an infomercial about an overpriced product that does not really work. They cannot talk about their record because most Americans were against most of what they did.
REMEMBER IN NOVEMBER...VOTE THEM OUT!!!
It's pretty funny that you were just whining about President Bush's record when I brought it up... and you got defensive. Remember this:
Karma is something else, isn't it?
Whining??? My comment is about how Obama, Pelosi, Reid, and the rest of the Democrats in Congress keep using Bush to try to explain away their failings. Obama, Pelosi, Reid, and the rest of the Democrats in Congress still do not understand they are acting against the will of the American people. Ultimate power resides with the American people. If Obama, Pelosi, Reid, and the rest of the Democrats in Congress continue to act contrary to the will of the people, the people will vote them out. It is that simple.
REMEMBER IN NOVEMBER...VOTE THEM OUT!!!
Angrymobvoter - so what was different about THIS post than all of the OTHER posts that you have been so kind to contribute?
Can you explain just ONE thing - ONE that Pelosi, Reid and Obama are doing that is against the will of the American people?
I am just asking for ONE thing.
Can you at LEAST do that??
I don't see how we Republican's figure we could ever again, win another election, who will vote for us; not the gay, not the Mexican, not the military, not the young, not the black, not the Jew, not the Muslin, no woman in her right mind, no rational person with reasonable expectations. I think we're toast (white toast).
I did hear something rather astounding today...the San Francisco Chronicle, probably the most Liberal newspaper in the world, is refusing to endorse Barbara Boxer !!!! WOW...talk about rats leaving a sinking ship !!
Boxer will win hands down//up in the polls as we speak//same goes for Jerry Brown in California, will bury MISS "ship job over seas" Whitman...Voters are not dumb...Dems in NOV
Anyone know a Democrat who is running on their record under Obama ? Most Democrats are even refusing to admit that they are Democrats in the ads they are running...what a sorry excuse for a political party !!
Sorry, Hellearn, it looks like AngryMobVoter was a troll. He trolled in here, dropped his load, and trolled right on out of here. Frankly, I would hae liked to learn about the GOP plans and what they are going to do, but AngryMobVoter could NOT articulate ONE point.
NOT ONE.
It's too bad really. As you have stated, the GOP trolls do not do anyone any good because we can see what they are up to. They make a lot of noise, but are not saying anything.
It kinda makes you wonder, doesn't it?
"I am all talk/chatter/static noise...void of substance or action"...I am a proud republican LOL
Pietro actually the GOP was not voted out in 2008 The House was voted out in 2004 and the Senate in 2006. When did the economy and dificits start piling up? when did Wall Street (Timmy Geitner) in charge of the NY Fed. start the plunge on banking with Franks (in charge of the Banking commission since 2004). Bush (and I dont like the way the gov was run with him in there either, was faced with two wars , twin towers attack, and setting up homeland security did cost a little money. Approved by rep and dem congress.
Actually, gg1947, the mechanisms that brought down the investment banks and brought on this recession got their start back in the Reagan and Bush 1 years, they were called CDOs, synthetic CDOs and CDSs. These financial instruments were unregulated and when the banks were unregulated, they started gambling on these instruments that even the creators were not sure how they worked. Not to mention the originate and sell mortgage houses that were breaking the law but not being prosecuted due to defunding of the enforcement arms of the SEC, the Federal Reserve and the Central Bank under Reagan and Bush 1. While the NY Fed chairman is an important position, he is only 1 of 12 chairmen and the Chicago and San Francisco(?) (the region that includes California) chairman could be considered to be in equally powerful positions.
Don't spew that which you do not know, do not assign blame where it does not belong.
Hello Pietro??? You there??? Thats what I figured. Got to get some sleep. Now I know you will respond since I am gone and try to make some points. I love personal responsibility. Dont you??
GG1947 - yes, you are right - I need to get some sleep sometime!! If you want to have a REAL debate - point by point - I am HAPPY to oblige.
Actually, you are correct in your assertion about Congress. In 2006, Congress went from a Republican Majority to a Democratic one with a SLIM majority (Madame Speaker Pelosi got the gavel in 2006). Congress could NOT override the vetos from President Bush, but the Bush Agenda was 'slowed' down a bit at that time.
In 2008, the majorities were widened in both chambers of Congress. There was talk of a 'supermajority' in the Senate. We all know that 'supermajority' was really just a 'majority'; as policy goes, we had the 'Blue Dogs' vote conservative most of the time and the Independents that caucus with the Democrats voted with the Dems about half of the time.
So GG1947, I really am NOT about making empty 'point's but actually discussing the issue(s). maybe you will be more forthcoming, unlike AngryMobVoter who just had a list of 'talking points' that he was spewing on his assigned web site(s).
If you are up for the challenge, then find me here or on First Thoughts during the week.
Catch you later!
Thanks MSNBC. It looks like another great year for democrats!
Keep that thought Bob,sounds better to me than the going back.
Pointing Out the Crazy Talk that people like Sharon Angle spout to their own rallies (even when those rallies are in Neighboring albeit Adjacent states...) because they Flee-- they Run Away when a local reporter wants to call them Out on Anything necessitates that the Opposing Party bring this Crazy Fruit Loop Talk to the forefront.
Babies and Bullies.
However, that said, what the Dems say in their own ads and those of their supporters is also what they have done and More Importantly what they will do to further this ailing Country. Save it from the likes of RW extremists.
Oh so right, Hamletrules
How about a Republican running on the record of Bush?
beatboehner.com
Fannie and Freddie the start of the crash of American Economics was under Democratic care. Republicans tried to get more regulation added but were sideswiped by Barney Franks.
Franks should be fired.
Rangel should be in jail for tax evasion, he was the chairman of the committee that writes tax laws. Saying I didn't know just doesn't cut it period. How stupid can America be.
Congress woman passing out scholarships to their kids, grandkids and their aides children, meaning that I didn't know doesn't work as the aides are the ones who usually read the bill and that means your child may have lost out. Due to fraud. They should be fired.
The trade deficit speaks volumes on what ails America. Remember it was Schumer who stated "Americans need to be on parity with their Asian counterpart". In essence you should be making a dollar a day, working 12 hours a day 7 days a week and live in a tin hut.
911 America attacked by extreme Islamists lead by Osama bin laden. Ollie north tried to tell then President Clinton we need to get this guy, Clinton was to busy with Monica to care. Remember a BJ is not sex.
Clinton loses Bush comes into office, 911 happens. Clinton admits his biggest failure was not killing OBL at a NY convention. He had 3 chances and 1 was a sure kill and let it go. Blame Clinton for the wars as he failed miserably as a President in my opinion. The Nafta's and Cafta's brought America further down as the amount of business bailing out of the country to cheap labor grew and so did the trade deficit.
The raping of the American citizen will continue until it is smart enough not to vote the same people into office that have been sitting in those seats for the past 25 years plus.
HCB we must read it to see whats in it. A joke it does nothing to control the cost of health care, absolutely nothing. It covers more people woohoo and that will mean less time with the doctors and less care and more mishaps to more work pressure in those fields due to increased demand. This HCB is not what America wanted, they wanted reform but not the reform that was passed, illegally by the way. As the backroom deals to let Nebraska have impunity from ever having its Medicaid rates go up, while the rest of the American citizens were subject to increases is illegal on a federal program. All I need is you to vote yes here, don;t worry we will take care of you Senator.
If these are the kind of people you want in office, then America is right were it needs to be, fast becoming a 2nd world power and working on 3rd world status for all its citizens.
This didn't start with Bush and it will not end with Obama. It will end when the average American working class takes back its Government from the corruption that has been in office for over 30 years.
Vote them all out.
Jerry, Jerry, Jerry - in your zeal to make points, you are not correct in some of them. SLOW DOWN dude!!
Actually, Jerry, you are not entirely correct with this point. It was President Bush that mandated that home ownership should be made easier for people as a means of attaining the American Dream. Although Fannoe and Freddie had a PART in the mortgage meltdown, we had mortgage brokers who wrote 'liar loans', banks who took the loans in and allowed Wall Street to use those loans, backed by Moody's who rated those financial instruments as 'AAA', used the loans for CDOs to make money. You can blame Fannie and Freddie if you want, but the real culprit is the CDO and the trading on Wall street. There was little or NO oversight from the Federal Government during this time and Wall Street did whatever they wanted to.
While I may agree that Rep. Rangel's career has run his course, his constituents keep voting him in. Until that changes, Rep. Rangel will retain his chairmanship. If you want to see how stupid America can be, read some of the blogs.
I am not sure to which you are referring and your statement is not real clear. We can come back to this later if you like.
Jerry, I think that you are wrong in this assessment. In essence? Not hardly. I think that you have misconstrued what Sen. Shumer said, if that is what he really said. I am sure you will expand this a bit later so we can argue the point again sometime.
Jerry, First of all, Clinton did NOT lose to Bush. There is a thing called TERM LIMITS. Remember those?Secondly, you are conflating events. 9/11 happened; yes it did. However, the new President, President Bush, was briefed on all of this Osama Bin Laden activity and did NOTHING about it. So, 9/11 happened.
Now you want to blame President Clinton for the wars? Jerry, you are VERY wrong about that. It wasn't President CLINTON that had us invade Iraq and Afghanistan; it was President Bush. no matter how much you want to rewrite history, President Bush will be known as the 'War President' and will be ALWAYS branded with the fact that he LIED about WMDs to get America into two wars.
In MY opinion, President Bush is the worst President ever, as he used the full resources of the United States as his own personal piggy bank. He also sacrificed the lives of over 4000 American citizens for his own twisted sensabilities. President Bush got his trophy: a PISTOL. $1 TRILLION and over 4000 lives for a friggin' PISTOL.
I agree that NAFTA and CAAFTA has not helped America much over the past few years. However, it must be noted that NAFTA was actually set in motion by President George HW Bush and signed into law by President Clinton. It was a Republican Congress that ratified this treaty, so if you want to blame someone, you can blame them for selling out the American worker. You can thank President Clinton for going along with it.
Actually, you are correct about this. If we are looking at who was in CHARGE for the past 25-30 years, you will see that it was Republicans (Reagan, Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Clinton, Bush, Bush) who were in charge with President Clinton for 8 out of the past 30 years. Place the blame where it needs to be.
Still smarting about the butt whipping that President Obama put on the Republicans about this I see. Well, if this law has done NOTHING for the American people, then why are people mad that the bill did not go far ENOUGH? I am sure that the people who are now covered and not able to be denied because of pre-existing conditions would have issue with your assertion that the HealthCare Law has done NOTHING for the American people.
You really need to be a lot more clear in this assertion. What 'kind of people' are you referring to? From what I can see, we have had Republicans and Democrats that have contributed to the decline of America as we know it. Your post id more anti-Democrat than anything, so what assertion are you trying to make here?
Here, you are correct. I am glad you acknowledge the corruption that was in office for the past 30 years. Although you probably didn't mean to, you proved my point. Over the past 30 years, the Republicans have been in charge. Your statement that there has been corruption in government over the past 30 years speaks volumes.
Thanks, Jerry, for proving my points with your own words.