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Subscribe to RSSThe New York Times on yesterday’s CNBC forum with President Obama: “In question after question during a one-hour session, which took place on Monday at the Newseum here and was televised on CNBC, Mr. Obama was confronted by people who sounded frustrated and anxious — even as some said they supported his agenda and proclaimed themselves honored to be in his presence.”
The New York Daily News' headline out of yesterday's CNBC town hall: "President Obama challenges Tea Partyers: Show us what you'd do!"
The New York Post, being the New York Post, on the other hand, plasters on its cover the question from a supporter who said she was "exhausted" having to defend him. The over-the-top cover headline: "BETRAYED." The point this sensationalistic cover misses, however, is that in a follow up interview with the reporters of the story, the woman, Velma Hart, said she remains "100 percent" in support of the president. She was not, however, completely satisfied with the president's answer: "She complained that he didn't say whether these tough times are a 'new reality' or just temporary. 'He didn't answer that,' she said. 'That was the heart of my question. Like most Americans, fear is starting to take hold, anxiety is taking hold. You can have all the hope in the world, but it has to be backed by action. It's been a long time since I had to make decisions about grocery purchases."
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Anyone with common sense understands you can't spend your way out of a recession. When you get a pay cut do you max out your charge cards?? NO! You cut spending. The US economy is simply the aggregation of individuals. Stimulus spending delays the economy from hitting bottom but restrains growth on the upswing. The principles that guide managing your family's budget apply to the gov't too. The Obama plan has wasted trillions of dollars. Look at LA; $2M spent per job. No one even knows where the money went! People have figured out trickle down prosperity is far better than Obama's trickle up poverty. And, in November we are taking away Obama's charge card.
Hobie81, all of that sounds good but you missed a very important point in this article that I think a lot of others are missing. That point is what the lady said to the reporters. The lady said this, " The point this sensationalistic cover misses, however, is that in a follow up interview with the reporters of the story, the woman, Velma Hart, said she remains "100 percent" in support of the president.
I truly believe that nearly all of his supporters feel this way, including me. I really don't think the public, if it takes a minute to think about the choices that they have, want to go back to the way it was. I heard this morning that the republican new contract is basically the exact same as it was with a new spin.
Might work but I am optimistic that it will not be enough to change the majority.
LeFt-wINg PaNiC AtTaCK
Hobie:
And your solution to the recession would be WHAT?
Speaking of common sense, if Christine O'Donnell demonstrates what you would call "common sense," then God help us.
By the way, not everyone shares your dim view of the stimulus:
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-08-25/obama-s-economic-stimulus-program-created-up-to-3-3-million-jobs-cbo-says.html
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/08/01/AR2010080103286.html?wpisrc=nl_opinions
http://www.economy.com/mark-zandi/documents/End-of-Great-Recession.pdf
At page 10.
So I ask again...what is your solution?
"She complained that he didn't say whether these tough times are a 'new reality' or just temporary. 'He didn't answer that,' she said. 'That was the heart of my question. Like most Americans, fear is starting to take hold, anxiety is taking hold. You can have all the hope in the world, but it has to be backed by action. It's been a long time since I had to make decisions about grocery purchases."
The 'new reality' is that Obama has no clue, and he just resorts to his same old 'rhetoric', thinking that he can still fool people with empty talk. The 'new reality' is that we have tried his ultra-liberal ideas, and they just don't work. The 'new reality' is that you can't expect businesses to hire more workers if you keep piling extra costs on the employers (tax increases, higher health insurance costs, 'cap & trade', higher borrowing costs (financial 'regulation'), etc., etc., etc. The 'new reality' is that you can't 'spend' your way out of debt. the 'new reality' is that we are mortgaging our
Sorry - my post above cut off. The sentence is;
The 'new reality' is that you can't 'spend' your way out of debt, mainly to help unions. The 'new reality' is that we are mortgaging our children's and grandchildren's futures, and they will be in hock up to their necks for generations to come - all for a social experiment in 'wealth redistribution'.
Mr. President - PLEASE STOP DIGGING A DEEPER HOLE.
Your view holds only if you believe Darwin was an economist. If you have a pay cut, but you need to put food on the table, you may have to borrow and use your credit cards. It is risky, but it's based on the belief that your pay will improve or you'll find a better job. Plus there is a pesky belief among most clear thinking people that government is supposed to ameliorate some of the adverse effects of the "economic cycle." People through no fault of their own aren't supposed to suffer when high financiers make the wrong bet.
Roy Wilson - your children's and grandchildren's futures were ALREADY mortgaged when we invaded Iraq and Afghanistan. We did NOT invest in our infrastructure. We did NOT invest in our schools, or our populace. We FOOLISHLY spent YOUR childrens and grandchildren's futures on guns, tanks, bombs and planes. Oh yeah, and LOTS of ammo.
NOW that we have a President that wants to invest in our future - OUR infrastructure - and you want to deride him by saying that his policies are a 'social experiment in 'wealth distribution'"?
Even you, Roy know better than that.
Roy, maybe you should take your own advice and 'stop digging' when your argument is debunked!!
Obama is victim of Bush's failed promises
Greener Pastures Column -- 5/ 15/10
Barack Obama is setting a record-setting number of records during his first year in office.
Largest budget ever.
Largest deficit ever.
Largest number of broken promises ever.
Most self-serving speeches ever.
Largest number of agenda-setting failures ever.
Fastest dive in popularity ever.
Wow! Talk about change.
Just one year ago, fresh from his inauguration celebrations, President Obama was flying high. After one of the nation's most inspiring political campaigns, the election of America's first black president had captured the hopes and dreams of millions. To his devout followers, it was inconceivable that a year later his administration would be gripped in self-imposed crisis.
Of course, they don't see it as self-imposed. It's all George Bush's fault.
George Bush, who doesn't have a vote in congress and who no longer occupies the White House, is to blame for it all.
He broke Obama's promise to put all bills on the White House web site for five days before signing them.
He broke Obama's promise to have the congressional health care negotiations broadcast live on C-SPAN.
He broke Obama's promise to end earmarks.
He broke Obama's promise to keep unemployment from rising above 8 percent.
He broke Obama's promise to close the detention center at Guantanamo in the first year.
He broke Obama's promise to make peace with direct, no precondition talks with America's most hate-filled enemies during his first year in office, ushering in a new era of global cooperation.
He broke Obama's promise to end the hiring of former lobbyists into high White House jobs.
He broke Obama's promise to end no-compete contracts with the government.
He broke Obama's promise to disclose the names of all attendees at closed White House meetings.
He broke Obama's promise for a new era of bipartisan cooperation in all matters.
He broke Obama's promise to have chosen a home church to attend Sunday services with his family by Easter of last year.
Yes, it's all George Bush's fault. President Obama is nothing more than a puppet in the never-ending failed Bush administration.
If only George Bush wasn't still in charge, all of President Obama's problems would be solved. His promises would have been kept, the economy would be back on track, Iran would have stopped its work on developing a nuclear bomb and would be negotiating a peace treaty with Israel. North Korea would have ended its tyrannical regime, and integrity would have been restored to the federal government.
Oh, and did I mention what it would be like if the Democrats, under the leadership of Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid, didn't have the heavy yoke of George Bush around their necks? There would be no ear marks, no closed-door drafting of bills, no increase in deficit spending, no special-interest influence (unions), no vote buying (Nebraska, Louisiana).
If only George Bush wasn't still in charge, we'd have real change by now.
All the broken promises, all the failed legislation and delay (health care reform, immigration reform) is not President Obama's fault or the fault of the Democrat-controlled Congress. It's all George Bush's fault.
Take for example the decision of Eric Holder, the president's attorney general, to hold terrorists' trials in New York City. Or his decision to try the Christmas Day underpants bomber as a civilian.
Two disastrous decisions.
Certainly those were bad judgments based on poor advice from George Bush.
Need more proof?
You might recall that when Scott Brown won the election to the U.S. Senate from Massachusetts , capturing "the Ted Kennedy seat", President Obama said that Brown's victory was the result of the same voter anger that propelled Obama into office in 2008. People were still angry about George Bush and the policies of the past 10 years. And they wanted change.
Yes, according to the president, the voter rebellion in Massachusetts was George Bush's fault.
Therefore, in retaliation, they elected a Republican to the Ted Kennedy seat, ending a half-century of domination by Democrats. It is all George Bush's fault.
Will the failed administration of George Bush ever end, and the time for hope and change ever arrive?
Will President Obama ever accept responsibility for something... - anything?
(Chuck Green is a veteran Colorado journalist and former editor-in-chief of The Denver Post.)
obama is a failure of his own failed promises.
Journalism 101
The Times UNDERSTATES the Post OVERSTATES.
The NYT Headline is :
FRUSTRATION AND FEAR GREET OBAMA in TOWN HALL CHAT and
DISAPPOINTED SUPPORTERS QUESTION OBAMA
with quotes to match...
“I’m exhausted of defending you, defending your administration. … I’m deeply disappointed where we are right now,” she said, adding that when she voted for Mr. Obama, she thought he would change Washington. “I’m waiting, sir. I’m waiting. I don’t feel it yet. … Is this my new reality?”
“That inspiration is dying away,” he said. “It feels like the American dream is not attainable for a lot of us. … Is the American dream dead for me?”
Translate the NYT headlines and quotes into Post editor-speak and you have
BETRAYED!!!
That's Tabloid journalism....what was your point?
listen up Dems, we are in this current situation because zerobama is a socialist marxist and that his socialism to re -distribute the wealth of americans has failed because of marxist economics which is out dated, antiquated and has failed over and over again. the only answer is the free market system. simple as that dumb Dems. So no yelling eh? Well, tell the Dems I'm only giving good, sound concrete advice that will make America prosperous. Marxist economics don't work and never did.
Drink a lot of paint as a kid, did you?
It was probably leaded paint.
Hobie, You mean that you are going to take away Zerobama credit card? Uh, ah, uh, how could you do that? He has armed bodyguards. Think you can pull it off? Yuh, think we could mug him down a dark alleyway and get that card? Uh. uh, But he always travel with them bodyguards. Perhaps, we can divert their attention. How much yuh uh, think might be on his credit? Is it worth it? Seeing that the economy is so........................bad.
That lady was dead serious. But Zerobama was laughing like a hyena and that smile was wiped clean off his face when she said that he has dumped down on the American people. Man, the Bama smile disappeared so quick that he nearly fell off that chair. The Bama tried to pull a fast one on the American people with that town hall discussion. But they haven't bought it. Nov is only around the corner and his socialist economics can't alter the situation. His challenge to the Tea Party is a propaganda ploy. The Tea Party wants a free economy with less govt. But the Bama seem to be a hard believer in govt run economic theories. Govt can't run economies. Private industries do. The Bama has failed and the American people can see plainly that stupid look on his face. He should resign for bringing the country to the gutter.
Oh yeah!! Look where the "Free Economy' and less government regulation put the mortgage industry and as a domino effect, our whole economy!! Like it or not people will always do the WRONG THING! We need regulation. Thanks to George Bush for leaving this country in a mess and then making his escape to TEXAS; a state he almost bankrupt when he was governor there by the way!
Bilweeler, The election of O'Donnell is a result of the stupid economic theory of the Obama administration and where it has gotten us today. WE THE PEOPLE have put her there among others because we are from the people. We don't care whether she has any knowledge of govt, or if she is a witch , mostly Hillary Clinton is a witch, she held a seance to bring back the ghost of Eleanor Roosevelt, or whatever she is , WE THE PEOPLE are going to change Washington. If any of them fail us we are going to take them out. This is still a land of freedom. We need small govt, less govt intrusion and we need industries and small business to prosper and only in this environment will our country survive and prosper like in the past decades, We don't need redistribution of our wealth. It creates less jobs, no capital, no industries and it has failed in communist countries. You don't like O'Donnell, we don't like Marxists like Coon. No wonder O'Donnell won. We don't need Marxists to run our country.
Brilliant. That should really solve some problems. We're no longer going to vote based on qualifications. It's just the litmus test now: are they crazy or not?
Thanks for the heads up. I'll try to remember that when I vote in November.
Don't you Dems realize one thing? That the Bama is digging a hole to fill another hole. Hahahehe. Roy Wilson is right
From that day on the campaign trail when the Bama was confronted by Joe the Plumber and the Bama stated that he was going to distribute America's wealth, from that instant I knew that he was going to fail in his endeavor to implement a near Marxian society. He ran smack dab into the Tea Party. You know why? Because Palin had seen through him completely. His Democratic base is gone, they are left holding nastiest end of the stick. They are frustrated and angry because the Bama's economic theories haven't worked and they are left without jobs, homes and in poverty which has risen dramatically. The Bama is no centrist. His mission is to fulfill the theories of Alinsky and Ayers who have trained him to change America to the socialist way of life and custom. To do that he has to change the economic machinery of the land. He has failed. Lucky thing we have the Tea Party and the teachings of Glen Beck.
We're lucky we have Glen Beck? If he's your hero, well, that says it all.
Try getting out of the bubble once in a while. The world cannot be reduced to talking points, no matter how many times Glen Beck repeats them.
Glen Beck is a hate monger.
This is why much of the country has a poor opinion of the media. The NY Post sensationalized what the lady said, and somehow neglected (deliberately) to report that she still supports the President 100%. Pesky little detail that. Hell, we are all exhausted. These are trying times. Honestly, is there no integrity left.
Jueven, he seems to think all the ills of this country are President Obama's fault. (And by the way, your name calling is childish.) That is just fundamentally wrong. And as far as I am concerned, the President does have integrity and I too support him 100%. He is doing what he thinks is best and just because you do not like it, does not make it wrong.
Of course she still supports him for two reasons period!! 1) She is a black woman and 2) She is a government unionized worker..The underlining problem with this is when these kinds of workers are worried we should all REALLY REALLY be worried! God help us all and I dont know the answers but I definately know OBAMMMY isn't it!! The deficit was never over $180 billion (did anyone read the CBO report or was that just in tiny 20th page print) during GWB whole presidency other than 2001 so all these people crying about the wars that we are still in please STFU it is geting old!! Obammmy beat the whole 8 years in one budget and will double it in his second... So see ya later 1 termer and good ridance and Thanks but NO Thanks you MORON!!
No Joi G.
What makes it wrong is that it is FAILING!!
I'm with you JOI!!! You are 100% correct. Obama is doing a great job!
your right,its obama ,ried and pelosi;s fault.
Why is it that all democrats paint Republicans as evil people? Well this "evil" republican lives in a 150k home that I bought in 2002. I also own a small business that employees 10 people. We pay 100% of their health insurance. And how do we get rewarded, with a 26% increase for our 2011 health care renewal.
I was under the impression that the "chosen one" forced health care reform down our throats to reduce health care costs. Wow, really seems to be working.
So now, with the 26% increase, we are paying more, but getting the same in return. This only stifles our ability to hire more workers.
When will some of you democrats wake up and realize that not all Republicans are "evil" people. Why is it that Fox always is "spinning" the truth, but CNN, NBC, etc only speakes the truth?
The older i get the more I hope that a 3rd party emerges to challenge both parties. If we never work together we will never prosper, we will only sabotage each other for the gain of one party.
I lean republican because i want to live the American dream. Since 2002, we hired every year. But since the new administration has taken over, the policy's are so restrictive on businesses that we have been hand-cuffed and unable to hire anyone.
Blame Bush not Obama !! Bush had 8 years to screw things up and now everyone expects miracles over night !! It won't happen that way! Remember it took alot of money and cost alot of American lives to find all those "weapons of mass destruction!"
Out of shape, unhealthy patient to physician. "Doc, I tried that diet and exercise thingy for a week and it didn't work....would you just give me a pill that works faster."
well,, all I want is for SOMEONE, who is in position of leading this country,, explain to me why nothing is working.. the stimulus only stimulated the big banks and etc... sure hasn't stimulated the economy one bit.
And we are being told its getting better,, tell that to the people still out of work for over two years and can't find a job.. How quickly we come to the aid of other countries.. and can't even help our own. So sad. well,
I don't want to go back two years, sure the hell don't want to stay here ( worse than two years ago) and have fear of tomorrow.. NO one can quarantee anything.. no one can fix it.. all the kings men and all the king horses... can't put humpty dumpty together again.. Nursery rhythm I never thought would pertain to this country.... its broken and the American people are broken too,,,, exhausted... period.