Retired Gen. Colin Powell is clarifying a statement he made on NBC’s Meet the Press on Sunday, when he said that illegal immigrants are “doing the things we need done in this country” and that some of them are laborers who are “all over my house.”
“We have millions and millions of illegal immigrants in our country, undocumented individuals, who are working, who are doing things we need done in this country,” he told NBC’s David Gregory on Sunday. "They're all over my house, doing things, making repairs. I’m sure you've seen them at your house.
In a statement posted on the NBC show's website, Powell underscored that he does not hire undocumented workers, merely that there are likely such contractors who work in his neighborhood.
“I don't hire illegal immigrants," he said in the clarifying statement. "On Meet the Press yesterday, I referred to illegal immigrants working around my house. I was referring to the many service contractors who work in my neighborhood, using mostly immigrant workers, who do good work. Some may well be "illegal."
“There are 11 million illegal immigrants in this country and most are working somewhere in our economy.”
Here’s the original video from Meet the Press:
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I've never seen anyone backpedal with such astounding speed - he could win an Olympic gold!
'Course, if he's telling the truth, man! What a poor choice of words that first time.
Excellent Congressional candidate. He would fit right in with Reid, Pelosi, Dodd, Rangel, Waters, etc., etc.
Said it before.... I'll say it again.....
This man's opinion / words ceased to matter once he abandoned his Republican principals and backed Obama in the presidential run based solely on dare I say..... RACE !!!
His true colors are showing.......
You are so right Dragon , I also saw the entire interview he said what he ment...
Oh then I am to understand that because the worker is Latino , according to Powells Clarification ,
they must be illegals.. Have I heard that complaint before ? Someone refresh my memory ..
Maybe that statement should have some clarification !
The proper term is "scum illegals," and Powell already has admitted to breaking the law.
So the second desperate ray of light for liberal lemmings to cling to in a week is running away from his statement. Did he not pay the illegals? I guess he has illegal alien slaves then. ohhhhhhhhhhh!!!!
So the second desperate ray of light for liberal lemmings to cling to in a week is running away from his statement. Did he not pay the illegals? I guess he has illegal alien slaves then. ohhhhhhhhhhh!!!! Hopefully the liberal vermin in the media can dredge up some more trivial bull@!$%# about the tea party for you idiots to ride until the imminent beat down of your enablers.
Exodite: I seem to remember some pretty fancy back pedaling when President Bush was in office. I think it was called Weapons of Mass Destruction and maybe also something to do with Sadaam making a deal with another country to get enriched uranium to make MORE WMD's.
Eveyone can make a slip and in this day or instanteous news coverage, there isn't anyway to clarify what you meant because it's around the world in seconds.
Yes, Mr. Powell --- 11 Million or so. And the question is. . . . . . . WHEN WILL OUR GOVERNMENT ENFORCE AMERICAN IMMIGRATION LAW and PROTECT AMERICANS?!?!?!?!?!?!!!
What a POS I hire illegals but wait no I don't I must be confused.
I said it yesterday, Powell is not a middle of the road republican as MSNBC wants to portray him, if he still holds any republican views, they are not on social issues. The idea that that MSNBC tried to contrast his views with those of the true conservative views of the tea party is mindless. Powell is to conservatism as Pelosi is to intelligence - mutually exclusive concepts.
I hope he doesn't trip and hurt himself whilst backpedalling.
@bernie-1036132: Yeah, actually, so do I.
Making fun of Powell for a bungled remark doesn't mean I'm unaware of slip-ups and outright lies made by others in the political arena. My comments aren't made on this blog looking to advance one party's agenda over the other, so don't get your panties in a twist and go quoting history at me like you're somehow making a point.
I guess he is trying to say that they all look alike to him. here have I heard that before...hmmmmmm?
Since no one else will defend General Powell, I will.
First of all, he wasn't backpedalling; he was responding to the idiots who misconstrued (most of them deliberately) his comments of the day before. When he said that people were working in his house, he did NOT imply that he had deliberately hired any individual that was an unauthorized American, he was merely assuming that some of the people on the work crews fit into that category. In response, numbskulls all over the country accused him of violating various and sundry laws (many of them imaginary) and painted Powell as a criminal and a racist (see comments #1.2 and #1.4 above). He should have let the idiots continue to wallow in their ignorance of English grammar and simple logic.
Most importantly, I will defend Colin Powell for taking a principled and sensible stand on the issue of immigration and citizenship. He stood up for what is right, just, and true to American ideals, and for this he is, of course, raked over the coals.
He is a better American than those condemning him. I, for one, salute the man for his wisdom and his courage.
commonsense...perhaps you can impart some common sense to powell so you can be even more impressed with him.
Exactly!!!!I have family in Texas and they hire someone to do work around the house.
They do not ask them for papers!!!! The lack of simply understanding plain English by some is amazing.
These are the same people that complain that "illegals" need to speak English. lol. What "American" people do not understand English? Read these posts.
That brings us to the obvious question: Was he lying then, or is he lying now? (rhetorical)
What do you expect from an Affirmative Action General? Remember: He was the idiot who pulled out from Iraq in the FIRST GULF WAR. I think his words were that we were winning the battle too easily. We were at the capital.
There would never have been a second Iraq war, but for this knucklehead. The Kurds in the North and the @!$%#es in the south were ready to govern. But we abandon our allies and let Saddam purge those people for a decade. Then we wonder why it's such a mess there now. Powell's strategy let Saddam kill all the good people and the good leaders that stood up against him in the first Iraq war are gone now.
He voted and endorsed Obama. He's not a General or a Republican anymore. I'm not sure that that isn't a good thing.
Clearly Powell is "misguided" in his racial profiling, just because the people he sees are working non-skilled jobs, being paid cash, and cannot speak English does not mean they are illegal, although an ounce of common sense and brains obviously tells him that many are.... I wonder whem the ACLU and Justic department will open their lawsuits against him.
It must be wonderful to be wealthy enough that your experience with illegals consists of having them visit you to do work for you... try living amongst them to get a feel for the reality of the situation. Powell is another out-of-touch, elitist, politically correct, windbag who doesn't have a clue what is happening outside his posh lifestyle.
I grant that it is a bad choice of words and Gregory did not contradict when he said they are around Gregory's house also. Powell may have hired a legitimate firm and get illegal workers; that's very common.
I see them around my house, roadside landscape workers who do not speak English, doing jobs unsuperivised to third world standards. They are probably illegal workers employed by legal government contractors. Outside places like Home Depot a significant number loiter around inviting employment for the day and I wonder why they are not asked not to loiter. Inside you can hire installers through Home Depot and sure enough when they turn up, there is a language disconnect, legal or illegal.
Yeah all over his house.... Cleaning the pool, doing the landscaping, painting the exterior, doing the roofing....
IF it were me I would have checked any contractor I was going to hire with the Better Business Bureau, and the state contractors licensing board.... But why would he do something so simple?
Why not just do whats easy and contribute to the problem?
I agree with you in principle but here is a question for you. When you go to a restaurant do you demand that every employee is legally employed?
If not, I would argue that you are contributing to the problem also.
That is just one example, there are many goods and services we all use on a daily basis and we don't think twice about whether or not an illegal worker contributed those goods and services.
Well, Mitt Romney hired contractors who used undocumented workers, even though he claimed he had an agreement with them that only legal workers would be used. I would imagine that if someone did a thorough investigation of any public person, one could find a situation in which the public person depended on an undocumented worker. Gen. Powell is right -- there are hard-working people everywhere whose "papers" are not in order and we depend on them for all sorts of things -- lawn work, yes, but also cleaning grocery stores (and WalMart) at night, picking fruits and vegetables, heavy lifting and masonry work. If people don't use this labor, there would not be a "market" for the workers here in the US.
brutus,
you have to think before you say stuff like that. apart from the landscaping done around your home or work place, they are the ones farming the food we eat, so don't buy food from the grocery store. the basic problem with this issue, is that american's love cheap goods and services. it is the reason a farmer can't hire someone that make 15-20 buck an hour to farm his farm. it is the reason why companies outsourch the call center to india, they are cheaper. and finally it is the reason why our trade gap with china is increasing. we love to buy that cheap computer, tv. so please think before you say anything.
How would the any of these agencies really know who is hiring illegal workers? Sometimes the very employer who is hiring the illegal worker does not know that the worker is illegal.
"They're all over my house, doing things, making repairs. I’m sure you've seen them at your house."
Powell is a smart guy that has made statements for decades. I'm sure he sayed what he means.
Did NOT say "they, as workers for a contractor, are all over my house". He basicially admitted that he has knowingly hired illegals on his own.
Also, making repairs refers to contractors but "doing things" is more like a private maid.... someone that the homeowner hires directly.
Thus in a few sentences admits and then reinforces the concept that he PERSONALLY has hired illegals. Yep, been hanging around the Democrats WAYYYYYY to long now.
@ Charles & E: I hope you guys haven't bought into that drivel that the politicians have been saying (American workers are lazy and won't pick lettuce for $50 an hr). Slave labor is wrong and disrespects those who work it. You both think that Mexicans deserve to get paid less than minimum wage with no OSHA protections & disability insurance?
Allowing slave labor drives down wages, which causes people to buy cheap products and services, because that's all they can afford. It's one big circle jerk, and the only winner are the corporate entities who caused this mess on purpose.
To sum it all up, don't blame Americans, rather blame our leaders who've been paid off by the lobbyists.
Mike
You are absolutely right. Hiring illegal immigrants not only hurts the legal workers in the US, it hurts the ability for legal immigrants to come in to the country, hurts our economy through social services provided to the illegal immigrants who work off the books, increases crime in the form of identity theft,and the very act of crossing the border illegally, increase terrorism threats with the undocumented extremists who pretend to be Latino and sneak with the masses of Latino border crossers, and does, in the long run hurt, the illegal immigrant themselves, by not offering a decent wage for a dangerous job.
The gov. needs to stand by the laws that are in place in this land; deport, and defend the borders.
its not slave labor mike. these laborers are free to return home at any time. at no point were they taken from their homeland against their will and forced to work. these people choose to work in these miserable jobs because the pay is still better than what is available in their home countries. and i dont know about you, but there is little i would not do to make sure my family is fed and has a roof. at least they are not selling drugs like some of the kids you know.
your argument about cheap products also makes no sense. i suppose wal-mart only stays in business because of the 11 million illegal immigrants who can only afford to shop there. ALL americans want to save as much as possible on their goods. yes, unfortunately the majority of this cheap labor force have come here illegally, but i would say that is still better than say, taking this land through violence and decimating the local inhabitants.
Charles in Arlington, You're right. Every time you look in the kitchen of a restraunt you see the breakdown of law that polititions like Powell have engineered. We have culinary schools that are empty because there is no opurtunity upon graduation. Tea Party candidates say they want to change that. That is why they will succeed. If democrats want to win in 2012 they better start some form of effective immigration management or get ready to join us in the unemployment line.
kate, well thank god it was powell who made the slip up, then libs will give him a pass. the vine is awful quiet, had it been anyone else... hmm, could it be because he's black? nice shot at romney while being pc with powell. and btw I like him regardless of race or party.
I don't worry much about the people I see in restaurants being illegals. I am not contributing to the problem bacause we have a federal government that is responsible for immigration issues. It is their responsibility, not the states, municipalities, or individuals. I believe they have said so in court.
I can only assume people are concerned about the brown-skinned people with spanish accents in their restaurants and neighborhoods. Rest assured, these people have been thoroughly vetted.
Texana Deb, you couldn't possibly be more wrong. People who work for a living are not victimizing others, they're participating in our way of life and making our economy more vibrant.
What hurts the ability of legal immigrants to join our society is the raft of idiotic laws governing immigration today. It's time to scrap those bad and counterproductive laws and enact new laws that are fair, sensible, and in the best interests of our country.
What increases "crime" among the undocumented are foolish laws passed by bigots that make it illegal for them to work, drive, and go to school; all of which are normal everyday activities that the rest of us partake in. As far as REAL crimes, US citizens are five times more likely to commit a crime than are the undocumented.
No terrorist acts have been committed by Mexicans. It is much, much easier for so-called 'religious' terrorists to enter the US with a valid visa (and much easier for a terrorist to obtain a visa) and enter through Canada (it's been done), across the Atlantic (it's been done), or across the Pacific (it's been done), than through Mexico (it's never been done). Drug trafficing is a different issue. You can blame American drug addicts for that, though, not the undocumented.
You can't solve a problem based on misinformation.
You obviosly do not have a home!! and if you do? I guess you have limited knowlege of business.
The BBB does not list those who hire legals or illegals? Duh!!
Moakler, you talk about the Tea Party. The REAL Tea Party rallied around the phrase "No taxation without representation!" Right now the undocumented Americans pay taxes but are not allowed to vote. If you are true to the original Tea Party principles, surely you are in favor of granting these people the right to vote, since they live here permanently and pay taxes. Or do you prefer that they be made exempt from paying taxes? Or does the whole "Tea Party" thing have nothing to do with patriotic American principles beyond the superficial use of symbols that have been drained of their original substance?
pjam09 & commonsense...I'm sorry, but you are way off base. I have personally gone through the entire immigration process with my wife who is German. It was a pain in the butt and was not cheap, but no one said it should be. Have you ever looked into what it takes to get a visa or resident status in "liberal" europe. If you did, you would think they were isolationists. You suffer from the same problem most americans do.....lack of education and world view. I have lived and studied overseas on five different occassions and personally experienced how things are on the other side of the pond.
One more thing, why was it ok for our grandparents, great grandparents, etc to immigrate to this country legally and learn our language, but it's not okay for the mexicans and other latin americans? That is special treatment! Do you know what they do in Mexico if you are an illegal immigrant? Ask somone who is from their. They either put you in prison for life or execute you. No wonder they want to come here. But this is America and like everyone before they should have to go through the same process.
So that you don't assume and bash my political views after reading this, I was raised republican, voted for Bush and Obama, but believe illegal immigrants should be deported. Try to make sense of that!
See now, that's an easy thing to say and another thing to do. In many states -including my own- it is not mandatory for a private contractor to use E-verify. So...naturally either knowingly or not, illegals get through the system all the time and the state legislators are so worried about the next vote and are so busy catering to the minorities that the refuse to take the CORRECT stand.
My God you are soooo wrong!!
They do not execute immigrants!
Fool.
Whomever's talking about back-pedaling isn't really parsing the man's words correctly.
Colin [speaking to contractor]: "I've awarded you the project. Now i just need to see proof that all of your workers are actually here legally."
What form does that fit on? And if I was running a business, I'd just hand him whatever--is he really going to follow up with it? I'm sure he paid a lawful resident business owner to do some work while at the same time the biz owner has hired some cheaper labor to help make a profit.
ian, i like your comment. sub-par education, narrow world view & i'm going to toss in a sense of entitlement have atrophied the creativity that once was a hallmark of the nation. too much fast food & soda, maybe? guess what, being an american isn't enough anymore to be successful. put some brains & back into success is the new norm.
Just shows how ridiculous people and the media have become. I watched MTP and understood what he meant. Unfortunately, if Colin Powell had not clarified his comment, he would be labeled unpatriotic. As it is this may be the media topic for a couple days instead of focusing on what really matters.
You mean, like that article on Carter that exploded with over 300 comments in a couple of hours?
I too understood what he meant. He hires a contractor and the contractor hires "hired" hands....they may be illegal. They are "subcontractors" and getting paid in cash more than likely. It happens all the time. He didn't say he hired the illegals, he said they work on his house all the time.
And as someone above mentioned, when you go to the restaurant and the cashier is talking Spanish, do you demand to know if they're illegal or not? What if they were illegal, would you leave? I don't think so.
I'm with ya Jody, but when he said that Sunday, I KNEW it was going to be blown all out of porportion... Imagine the MSM doing that...
Powell knowingly hired scum illegals and he needs to be prosecuted.
Whether he personally hired illegal immigrants or hired a contractor who hires illegal immigrants, it does not matter. It is against the law in the US to hire undocumented workers. He aided and abetted. He should give specific instructions to his contractors, "no illegal workers or no job from me."
I would think that he would be articulate enough as a former Secretary of State that he would not need people to say " I understood what he meant". That is very scary when he used to speak on behalf of the U S government.
What is scary is your ignorance.
Don't you know the IRS gives illegals numbers so they can pay taxes?
Do you know there is hardly any enforcement of legal businesses that hire illegals?
Deb, if you really feel that way, you should turn yourself in for aiding and abetting. Every American has benefitted from the contributions of unauthorized immigrants. You're no exception.
I support you Deb all the way, I have a construction company and all my workers are either US citizens or legal aliens and we pay the required payroll taxes, but we have a difficult time competing against illegals or contractors that hire illegals because they hire cheap labor and pay no payroll taxes. Who says we won't do those jobs, pay us fairly and we will. We need to feed our families too, but don't try to make us work for less that the work is worth. Also why does Powell assume that all labors are illegal?
i saw the interview and i understood what he was trying to say. that illegals are performing jobs all over. no necessarily at his house but all over this country.
He was also saying that Americans are too lazy to do these jobs. The truth is, Americans are being forced to compete with illegal slave laborers.
Mike, that is not true. He never said anything about authorized Americans being lazy, he just said that unauthorized Americans are working hard and deserve fair treatment. If you personally can't compete in your chosen field, maybe you should switch careers.
Mike, Americans being forced to compete with illegals?? Yea right! Americans are just standing in line waiting to do jobs like mowing lawns, cleaning homes, sewing and ironing, slaughterhouse work, farm work and other dirty jobs. Yea right! List two jobs one in an office with a/c and benefits and one working in the fields for 12 hours per day and I can bet you not one American will sign up for the field job. My husband worked with farmers all his life so I am well versed in this field. BTW, I find it interesting that so many here have taken Powells comments out of text and point the finger at him, how many have also pointed the finger at their fellow Americans for hiring illegals? Americans scream and yell about illegals but continue to hire them. I say go to the root of the problem, kill the root meaning don't hire them and the money tree dies.
I will stand up for the General as well. It is very well known that illegal immigrants are working in Idaho on construction jobs, agricultural jobs, and manual labor jobs. The Idaho legislature (Republican ) controlled continues to fail to implement measures to hold employers accountable and mandate that employers verify the right to work in Idaho and the United States. E-Verify...The Idaho Legislature is afraid agriculture and construction contractors will not have sufficient time to get the labor required for those businesses to be sustainable if illegal immigrant workers are not used.
That being said, this is where I part with the General. In this respect, I believe we should remove all financial incentives for illegals immigrants to stay in the United States. No citizenship, no welfare, and only emergency medical care to return the illegal immigrant to the boarder of their home country. All cost to apprehend, feed, clothe, transport, and fines should be charged to the home country of the illegal immigrant. If you are older than 18 and working in the United States illegally and discovered as illegal to work in the US. Then you should be deported and placed on the list to obtain legal immigrant status with a misdemeanor on the file. If you are illegal and have a child in the United States (anchor baby) then you and your child will be deported. However, the child will have the ability at age 18 to chose citizenship in the United States because of birthright. All other family members must apply for citizenship through normal channels although their records in the United States will be documented with an immigration misdemeanor if they had previously illegally gained entry to the United States.
Immigrants play a vital role in building the United States. I do not fear immigrants, I welcome those who achieve legal immigrant status and embrace their tenacity to become a citizen of our great country.
Yes, there are Americans competing with illegals, I am one of them, and that is for mowing and construction jobs. Even my insurance office is getting hit by agencies operated by illegals. Don't under estimate illegals, if they can take your job they will. Have you heard about the Dream Act, whos jobs will the beneficiaries of this bill take, maybe yours.
As long as people ignore the problem of companies hiring illegals for cheap labor they will come here at any risk and in spite of any level of border security. We need to have the national ID card then you could easily determine who is illegal, and then you could save on social benefits given to people with bogus SS #'s.
it is not the bogus SS # that is the problem. it the people and cheap every thing. if a kid said to pay him 100 buck to mow your lawn, you are definitely not going to. but the illegals would take 20 buck and do it faster and better. WE LOVE CHEAP GOOD THING IN THIS COUNTRY.
Give them a green card and see if they will work mow your lawn for $20.
I don't think he is back pedaling. I think he is just making sure people understand he doesn't hire illegal immigrants. They are all over and they not just Hispanics either!
Illegal immigrant students rally for DREAM Act
they're encouraged by talk of passing federal legislation to allow thousands of young people who attend college or join the military become legal U.S. residents.
Nineteen-year-old Reyna Wences says if the DREAM Act passes, her future can be decided.
This also helps build American as I see it.
http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=news/local&id=7677564&cmp=emc-wls-Top_Stories-092010-top4-7677564
The lousy republicans want to could "kill the bill" as they usually do with anything the President and progressives want .
Beverly, what part of illegal don't you understand. This seems to be the only crime in which we want to reward the criminal.
Joe, from Kalispell
Beverly, what part of illegal don't you understand. This seems to be the only crime in which we want to reward the criminal.
I know what illegal means. And I also know that the 14th says illegal for those born here are already citizens; unlike what the Tea Baggers and righties claim; as well as what a democracy is. That's why Congress makes laws.
I know there are lots of crook and liars on Wall Street and Capitol hill. Do you think about their crimes are acceptable?
And your language is filthy. You know what illegal means, but do you realize what you are saying when you call someone a teabagger? Either you're stupid or crass, probably both.
It's too bad that ALL the American youth who want to go to college don't get the same benefits as the children of illegal immigrants. They are granted extra points in al=pplying for scholarships, and in Texas they are granted in state tuition. But if you live in Louisiana or Oklahoma, you are charged much higher out of state rates. It is ridiculous.
Powell is proving to be a joke when out of uniform.
You called yourselves "teabaggers", live with it. Or rename your "party". It is a double entendre which is perfectly inoffensive, unless you have a dirty mind.
Joe, what part of illegal don't YOU understand. I'm willing to bet that sometime in your life you've either driven one mile per hour over the speed limit, overstayed a parking meter, spit in public, or used foul language in public. All of these things are illegal in most places. I guess that means you should lose your job, your social contributions should be taken away, you should be forced to leave your home and family and you should be be exiled to a foreign country.
Being here without a valid visa is not a felony, nor should it be treated as one. If you turn in a library book late, you pay a modest fee without losing your borrowing privileges. If your driver's license expires, you renew it, show proof that you have, and maybe or maybe not pay a small fine. Your life doesn't come to an end. Working is not a criminal act. Getting an education is not a criminal act. Nor are these things in any way immoral, unethical, or even undesirable.
Deb, you say that unauthorized American in Texas pay in-state tuition. Since the are Texas residents, and pay Texas taxes, why SHOULDN'T they pay in-state tuition. They've subsidizing the state schools all along with their taxes, which is the justification for charging lower tuition to residents. And by the way, according to the Comptroller of the State of Texas, unauthorized Americans pay $427 million more in state and local taxes than they receive in services, so you are not subsidizing them, they are subsidizing you.
You mean like not being allowed to work? Having to pay out of state tuition, even though your family are tax paying residents? Not being eligible to apply for scholarships? THOSE benefits?
Several thousand voters in Delaware hired an alien. She seems to hide her antenae under her long, dark hair quite well, though.
Pass me a towel pleeze will ya Drive-by?
You forgot that her skirts can't be more than 2" above the knees otherwise it won't hide her tail!
Ewww...Ewww...Witchy Woman!
Now, that's funny. Thanks for the visual. haha
So, Hillary holding seances in the WhiteHouse talking to the ghost of Eleanore Roosevelt, then Carpetbagging it to NY to get elected a Senator in a "safe" Democratic State is peachy-keen with you.....This O'Donnell was a goofy teenager when she made those silly remarks, on a clip that was never even aired at the time....They had to dig deep into the old tapes to come up with that one.....Hillary on the other hand was the First Lady of the United States when she was conjuring up the dead......
Thank for the good laugh this morning!!LOL
What he said made perfect sense to me...but since he's gone from Hero to Zero in the Tea Partyverse it figures he'd have to clarify his statement.
No kidding. I immediately knew what he meant. But then again I'm not a paranoid ethnocentric.
Go figure......
Just because they are here, does not mean they have a "right" to stay or a "right" to work. They are here illegally.
I do respect that they are working hard and doing things that need to be done, however many of those things could be performed by legal residents legally able to work such as young people.
I remember in my youth mowing lawns to make pocket money, delivering newspapers, pumping fuel at a truck stop, fixing tires, etc.
My brother worked in construction. There are many that are legal to live and work that are available to fill those jobs to earn a living.
The immigration policy within this country may have been a good thing at one time, but its time has passed. It is time to change it to suit todays needs and issues.
Anyway you look at it, Mr. Powell was simply getting Cheap Labor. And Probably didn't care to Know, OR ASK !!! Another Cheap Handout. R.
Who among us hasn't done the same? If you own a house and you want work done, you normally don't go Union, you go "cheap" and able to do the work.
@ Sally: No, we call a local contractor (who hires illegals....). :p
I don't know about Chicago, but in Texas, when you hire a contractor, they are not union anyway. So we can afford to hire legally documented workers. The only excuse to not hire a legal worker is being to lazy to check it out or so cheap that you PERSONALLY go to the parking lots and pick up illegal workers yourself, which makes you directly a crook. The contractors are not passing on any savings to the homeowner, they are lining their own pockets. The exception is if you are hiring an electrician, then you better hire a professional and not an unskilled worker to do the job.
How do you know if someone is illegal? Do they have it posted on their forehead?
I'm so stupid. I hired a contractor to replace my roof.
He turned out to be white...and so were all the workers that showed up.
Who knew?
Send Them ALL BACK HOME !!!! R.
shoot the invaders!
Well I think they all should go home. I am sorry but I want all you illegal folks to leave tonight. Take you guns and drugs back with you. I am serious all you go home bye
Pretty poor trolling job there sobadtoo
Typo correction Joe, from Kalispell
And I also know that the 14th says it's legal for children of illegals "Born in the USA" to be citizens ; unlike what the Tea Baggers and righties claim.
What’s your problem Beverly? I guess you think it is entirely appropriate for everyone to be able to break the law and not have to face the consequences. Why? Because it is a worthy cause?
He lost his moral compass when he hooked up with Obama. He said what he meant. Some one jumped him real quick and told him to clarify his statement. Of course he lied. He is not stupid. If he meant to say " in his neighborhood" he would have said it.
The 14th amendment does NOT mention illegal aliens. The amendment was meant for children of freed slaves. Freed slaves were legal so the amendment guaranteed their children citizenship.
Again Beverly...do you know where the term "teabagger" originated? It is very crude and continually using the term makes you look cheap and uneducated...there are other words to use to make your point...and you will sound truly knowledgable.
But, then again, you are from Chicago...
The intent of the framers is express and clear, as recorded in the May 30, 1866 edition of the Congressional Globe. Senator Jacob Howard, author of the clause, said, "This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers ...".
Does this sound like the designers/framers were not aware of the 14th Amendment's capacity of being abused by foreigners, and aliens? However, since that specific issue has never been addressed by the Supreme Court, it has been, and is being abused. Interpretation of the Constitution weighs heavily upon the historical intent of the original designers/framers, and that will be the tipping point that the court will rely on.
The 14th Amendment had nothing to do with immigration. It was a means for former slave to acquire Federal Citizenship status because, prior to the Civil War the Supreme Court in the famous Dred Scott case said that slaves had the status of merchandise, since they were bought and sold. And that being the case were not eligible for state Citizenship
If they wanted to include that sentence in the 14th amendment, they could have. Since they didn't, they obviously did not want your interpretation.
This erases all doubts that Powell is a Democrat through and through.
Really? Who said that?
All I can say is that anytime Mr. Powell would want to switch from an intelligent Moderate Republican to an intelligent Moderate Democrat, we would take a decorated hero and upstanding, Patriotic American like him right away. If fact, I don't think that the Republicans or the other Republicans (Tea Party) deserve to have someone like him aligned with them.
Mr. Powell, come over to the Democrats and Leave the Dark Side!!!
Road Warrior - He would be more than welcome to the Democratic fold, however, being a person with integrity, he will probably stick it out trying to be a Moderate Republican who is fighting a losing battle with the extreme right radical party that the Republicans have become. He had the right to vote for whoever he wanted, just like you do, so now are you going to say if someone vote's differently than you on every item that they should be thrown out of the Republican party. Well, if that happens, the Democrats are going to have the majority of the country in their column. Go ahead and continue to run down your own!
Why does it even matter who he voted for and what party he belongs to? Both parties have a lot of things wrong with them and both parties have the right idea on some issues. To be so one sided, or claim to be is wrong. No republican agrees with everything the republicans say. As well as no democrat agrees with everything the democrats say. Why does it always have to be one way or the other? Nothing in life is so black or white including political views. There is nothing wrong with being a republican and agreeing from time to time with democrats, and vice versa. That being said, the problem I have with illegal immigration is that I have been working my butt off since I was 14 years old because I had no choice. And when I cant catch a break with my college tuition, or medical bills, or housing and someone gets everything handed to them just because they are illegal there is a big problem. I have been paying into the system for as long as I was allowed to and here these people dont contribute (except for maybe cheap labor) or pay taxes and they get the very money that was taken out of my pocket, there is a big problem with that. Its not yours, you dont pay taxes so pay your own bills or go ask your own government for a handout! I want my social security that I have paid into for a very long time. Illegals do not deserve it!
They pay into social security, it is withheld from the pay check. They do not collect it.
How can it be withheld from their paycheck when most of them get paid cash?
questions-1517318 - how can they pay into SS when majority are paid under the table? Hmmmm - it doesn't quite work out that way. And they don't deserve to collect since they aren't here leagally. Besides they get PLENTY of other free benefits: subsidized for their 7 anchor babies, free ed for their anchor kids, free medical for all.
Colon, you're an ass.
see what kind of people voted for obama. Colon did
@ Cal: Agreed. I used to have some respect for him, now I hope he goes into his plush retirement and never comes back.
No, You're the ass for showing such disrespect for a decorated American Hero. Although, you are probably also one of those Righties who do nothing but verbally disrespect the Office of the President of the United States with slanderous name calling.
Disrespectful, angry, mean spirited people like you don't deserve to live in this country. Maybe we should ship all the nasty people like you back to wherever your relatives originally came from as immigrants. Oh that's right, they wouldn't want any Ugly Americans, either.
Carlyss Man: Yes, Mr Powell voted for President Obama, which I think, the last time I looked, is what this country stands for. Freedom to vote for any person you want to. He is a Moderate Republican and evidentaly thought that President Obama had a more positive outlook for this country. Positive outlook is something that the Republican Party has lost and it seems to have happened when they lost the House, Senate and the Presidency. Maybe they should have been like the bully on the playground who doesn't get his way and just take his ball and go home.
If you can't say anything other than NO, then you don't have anything constructive to add to the discussion.
And look where all of this positivity has gotten us. Hope? Change? I just hope it's not too late to "change" things back in the Right direction come November.
I have to ask. Which period/administration/previous direction do you consider to have been the 'Right' one?
It is apparent that the charade has been a non-stop, Bank lead farce perpetuated by both Parties and Congress for decades. I would be interested to see the divining point which was 'Right'.
Thank you.
Oh and please take a gop member with you. I am sure they will like your country very much, If you can take 2 dem gop nut jobs back with you , then you can return with a citizenship. Hurry along now.
Whether he "misspoke" or was misunderstood, only one thing is obvious: we must take aggressive, final action to remove all illegal aliens from the United States. I demand the removal daily to the President's White House comment line (202-456-1111). I want my country back and I intend to assure removing illegal aliens by demanding as an American Citizen to my government that illegal aliens be removed from my land, from my roads, from my school, and from my pocket. No Amnesty - Not Now, Not Ever! The Constitution of the United States mandates that those who serve protect the American Citizen from "all threats both foreign and domestic." There are an estimated 12 to 15 million alien invasion force members on my land now, and I want every last one of them gone. And, I want them gone NOW!
Amen, Brother - it's long overdue. No Amnesty - Not Now, Not Ever. The right way, the way so many of our grandparents and great-grandparents did it by learning the language and history of this country and then assimilating into society instead of asking society to assimilate into them and their culture (see any vehicle on the road with another country's flag pasted on it - if it's there that you love, why aren't you still there?) went by the wayside long ago. Time to re-take that stand and re-hire legal Americans who want to work. In times of tight economy, legal Americans will work for a little less and take at least as much pride in it, putting more people back to work and creating more unity for the country.
Amen. oooops I gave myself away to the liberal atheists. It's cool to not believe in God these days.
I am sure the American Indians felt the same way...you see what happened there.
Illegal or legal your country has gone in another direction. Accept the change, continue complaining, but it is done.
Well until the American people are willing to do the work that these 'illegal immigrants' do, and dont expect a high wage, benefits etc. I dont see how how we can possibly send them back.
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But why don't we just give it a try anyway!!!!!!! Its not like we don't know were they came from do we now????????
Unless you want more illegal immigrants, you need to start sending them back. large numbers of these illegals will not give the US a prosperous and orderly society. For the most part, they do not do well in school.
Who cares if they don't do well in school. All they need to know is to ask "Would you like fries with that?"
I beleive we should let them stay with a workers visa program, but no citizenship, ever. No question they perform jobs Americans don't want to do, but unless they come here legally, they never get to be a citizen. That would be a complete slap in the face to every legal immigrant.
I am sure the general didn't mean that he knew for a fact they were illegal, he just assumed it, but boy oh boy not a very smart way to put it.
If illegals are taking jobs away from Americans (h1b abuse not withstanding) , how come there are not Americans of all "persuasions" hanging out in front of Lowe's or Home Depot seeking employment?
Also, I believe there was a little noticed news item a few weeks ago about farm laborers (illegal or otherwise) putting out the call to "Americans" to come and take their jobs away; interestingly enough, there were no takers.
The job requests for farm laborers was a political stunt by the union. Illegals work at all kinds of jobs. Companies hire them because they can pay lower wages. If there were no illegals companies would be forced to hire citizens and pay a fair wage. They live 10 or 15 of them in a one bedroom apartment and send their money back to Mexico. The families in Mexico use the money to build their houses. We are financing their enterprises in Mexico. Sanctuary cities are full of illegals. Those cities should be prosecuted by the FEDs.
Wait a minute.....you want the Federal Government to "force" companies to hire American citizens....but you also want less Federal Government??
What do you think will happen when those companies are "forced" to hire American citizens and pay a "fair" wage and benefits too? They are not going to just roll over and pay out more. They will pass those higher expenses on to the American consumers. Instead of paying a buck for a tomato, how about 10 bucks for a tomato? There's just no way that Americans would be willing to do that.
Or, maybe those same companies, when forced to hire American citizens and pay higher wages and benefits, will take their jobs to Mexico or India or China altogether. Doi! It's a no brainer. It's already happening. Why would someone hire an American citizen at minimum wage plus bennies, when that person could hire a Mexican in Mexico for half that? Oh, I see the Federal Government should "force" them to keep the jobs here. But, wait.....we want smaller government. We want less government. We want goverment out of our lives!! Freedom! Patriot! Pledge of Allegiance!!
Yeah, right.
Obviously, the Tea Bagger ilk has not fully grasped the concepts of the free enterprise system.
Obviously, stopping illegals is not easy when their homeland, Mexico, Cuba, etc., are @!$%# holes to live in and the USA is the land of promise. What do you suggest we do to stop them from coming here? Line the borders with razor wire and M1 tanks? Shoot to kill like at the Berlin Wall? So, genius Tea Baggers.....do we round up everyone who looks hispanic, black, asian, muslim, non-white and ship them out? Use your imaginations now....that would be almost impossible if there are 12-15 million already here.
Amnesty is a better answer than what the buffoons of the Palin party are advocating.
So you want amnesty now for what you say are 12-15 million and what about in 10 years when there are another several million do you want another amnesty?
And what if some of those millions don't exactly have the best interests of America at heart? Do they get amnesty too? And why shouldn't they stay in Mexico, Cuba, wherever (your country suggestions) and FIX their residences instead of coming here illegally?
Only yesterday, msnbc.com still has a news article on Powell's original remarks about "illegal immigrant working and fixing things around the house". It was under politics and available to read in the evenings.
Today, msnbc.com has a new news article on Powell's yesterday clarification to the "illegal immigrant working and fixing things around the house" comment.
Why didn't msnbc.com studiously pull the former news article on Powell and replace it with this one yesterday after he said it?
Well General, Ya voted for change, hope and the African American because of what? Because he is BLACK, or because he is a good choice? Seems ya hired Mexicans to save some change, not because it was right. I rest my case. You can now say your sorry for both in my opinion.
Obama is African-American but he is not decended from Slaves like 99.99999999% of Africian-Americans here.
We are still waiting for that to occur
Bri----Obama is only 6% Afro-american---65% Arab---and 29% white! where does the connection occur between slavery and Arabs?
Bri----Obama is only 6% Afro-American---65% Arab---and 29% white! where does the connection occur between slavery and Arabs?
FYI: regarding the "gigantic misconception" that Obama is, or should be referred to as "African-American?"
#1. NO he is NOT!
#2. Anyone can check this very easily.
#3. His father, Barack Hussein Obama, Sr. was "classified on his own Birth Certificate" and separately "by the Kenyan government" as being a "Semitic-ARAB" with ZERO reference anywhere to ANY Black African heritage.
To be fair... exhaustive research HAS confirmed that Obama's "Great Great Grandmother was Black African" which means his own father was a maximum of 12.5% Black African?
Mom was White, so he has 50% White Caucasian from her. The rest? 43.75% ARAB from daddy and another 6.25% Black from daddy... and that's it! End of story.
So what? So, that makes our president a "whopping maximum of 6.25% Black African heritage, BUT, it still does NOT make him ANY "African-American!!!".
What else? The term "African-American" (according to members of the Black community in the USA) is a term "reserved for those Black Americans who are descendants of "slaves brought to the Western World", which neither HE nor HIS father or other family members EVER were?
What's the point? The point is, whatever amount of "Black African heritage" the POTUS has, it definitely was NEVER associated with any American slave ancestor.
#4. Since Obama is 43.75% Semitic-ARAB, Obama is, at best, our first ARAB-American President!
All of the "rambling on about Obama being our first African American President is a TOTAL SCAM!!!
Also, it is an extreme insult to anyone of ARAB heritage. Why "disregard his TRUE heritage?" Isn't that bigotry to just ignore the fact the he is "seven time more ARAB than Black?"
Imagine a person who is 50% Black, 43.75% ARAB and only 6.25% White being called "White?"
Words like "ridiculous, insulting, absurd, ignorant and even STUPID" could be used to describe anyone suggesting that a person who is 6.25% White should ever be referred to as White!
I find it astonishing! Anyone, absolutely anyone who EVER refers to him as either Black or African American "highlights their staggering blind ignorance and bigotry for all to see!"
peace :)
Your post is entirely dedicated to racism. Congratulations on missing the point. Drop race from all topics of discussion and grow up. You're embarassing.
Peace :)
Little Jackie? Yeah that one?
What's the matter there little Jackie? Did someone say something to offend you?
Ah, poor baby... did little Jackie's feelings get offended? Ah, let's hear it for little Jackie: Boo hoo hoo!
I'm glad to hear that you "figured out the racism part!"
Good for you... that was EXACTLY my point!
You sound "intellectually challenged, based on your suggestion that "others follow your instructions" comments, I'll remind you that "my post was a REPLY" regarding another post, which mistakenly suggested that our ARAB American President was African American.
In fact, unless someone is quite ignorant, there is absolutely nothing about my comments that could be construed as "racist" in any way, except by an ignorant person? Hmm... who could that be?
I'm not the one labeling our ARAB American President as African American... it's all those "other people that are fixated on his being something he isn't."
Since this is a blog, where "posters" enter whatever comments THEY want... I'll continue to write whatever I want "without even asking you for permission!" How about that?
If you feel like setting up your own blog, then you can make all the rules you want.
In the meantime, I am giving you my instructions:
Keep on entering any and all comments that your "little Jackie brain" can come up with. Go ahead and keep looking for people to "disagree with" but whatever you do, do not come up with any "original thoughts of your own!"
Now go be a good little Jackie :)
peace :)
Speedy - Jack isn't unintelligent, but you definitely are! Anyone who can write something so bigoted can't be too smart.
I agree with Jack as far as you're concerned. I think you are in the wrong era. You should be back in Germany in the late 1930's. You and Hitler could have been real pals.
One question, during the sixties would he have had to give up his seat and go to the backof the bus?
No he could have carried his birth certificate and proved he was not black.
This GOP-In-Name-Only has been hanging around Democrats wayyyyy to long!