Carter: 'Probably superior' to other ex-presidents

AP

Former President Jimmy Carter (right) standing off to the side in a photo with the living presidents (and then-President-elect Obama) in the Oval Office.

*** UPDATE 3:59 pm ET *** Former President Carter issued a written statement after his comments aired:

"What I meant was, for 27 years the Carter Center has provided me with superior opportunities to do good."

In an interview with NBC's Brian Williams, former President Jimmy Carter, who has been a target of the right through the years, lauded his own post-presidency, telling Williams, "I feel that my role as a former president is probably superior to that of other presidents."

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Carter, who is out with a new book defending his legacy, backed up his assertion by saying the Carter Center goes where the United States government does not, "to fill the vacuums in the world."

"The Carter Center has decided, under my leadership, to fill the vacuums in the world," Carter said. "When the United States won't deal with troubled areas, we go there and we meet their leaders who can bring an end to a conflict, or an end to human rights abuse, and so forth. So I feel that [I] have an advantage over many other former presidents in being involved in daily affairs that have shaped the policies of our nation and the world."

Before Barack Obama was sworn in as president in January 2009, the living presidents (and then-President-elect Obama), gathered for an Oval Office photo shoot -- with Carter notably standing off to the side, apart from the group.

Asked if he feels he is treated differently because of the active role he has taken as a former president, like going to North Korea, for example, Carter said, "Yeah, sometimes. And I can understand that. ... I can see how it makes sometimes the incumbent president uncomfortable to have me doing things of this kind, when political niceties don't let-- him or his administration do them."

Here's the transcript of the interview:

BRIAN WILLIAMS: The last photo of you with your-- fellow former presidents, you were well off to the side on the right. And I thought to myself, well, there's-- there's a possible metaphor. What is it-- about you, you think, the way you've-- decided to conduct your life and post-presidency? Do you feel listened to? Do you feel-- that you receive your due? Or do you feel, in fact, apart from the crowd?

JIMMY CARTER: No. I-- I feel that my role as a former president is probably superior to that of other presidents. Primarily because of the activism and the-- and the injection of working at the Carter Center and in international affairs, and to some degree, domestic affairs, on energy conservation, on-- on environment, and things of that kind. We're right in the midst of the-- of the constant daily debate.

And-- and-- and the Carter Center has decided, under my leadership, to fill the vacuums in the world. When-- when the United States won't deal with troubled areas, we go there and we meet their leaders who can bring an end to a conflict, or an end to human rights abuse, and so forth. So I-- I feel that have an advantage over many other former presidents in being involved in daily affairs that have shaped the policies of our nation and the world.

BRIAN WILLIAMS: And do you think you're treated differently because of that?

JIMMY CARTER: Yeah, sometimes. And I can understand that. For instance, we-- I just got back from a trip to North Korea. We haven't had a-- a day of peace talks with North Korea since 2009. And this is one of the-- needs in the global affairs, is to bring about denuclearization of the Korean peninsula, and also to have a permanent peace agreement between the United-- among the United States and-- South Korea and North Korea.

We go there. I go to Pyongyang. I meet with their leaders. I talk to them. I bring back their messages to the State Department and to the White House. And-- and I think we fill, you know, a legitimate need. But I can see how it makes sometimes the incumbent president uncomfortable to have me doing things of this kind, when political niceties don't let-- him or his administration do them.

BRIAN WILLIAMS: There goes Jimmy Carter again.

JIMMY CARTER: That's true.

BRIAN WILLIAMS: Yeah.

JIMMY CARTER: I know.

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Ego much?

  • 45 votes
#1 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 1:19 PM EDT

Carter acted like an international electrolux filling the vacuum bag of the world with folly.

But Obama has burst the bag with $$$trillions in progressive legislative and executive order dirt.

Carter must be thanking Obama every day he no longer will go down in history as the worse president ever.

  • 176 votes
#1.1 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 1:42 PM EDT
Comment author avatarIndy LibRestored

Deservedly so. If we had listened to Brother Jimmy back when we had the chance, so many of the environmental problems we have today would not exist. But America got smitten with a cowboy leading to 30 continuous years trickled-on economics, deregulation, and corporate welfare leading to the massive global economic crisis we have today. I don't blame him, I would have seperated myself from those other guys as well.

  • 116 votes
#1.2 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 1:46 PM EDT
Comment author avatarTJM07Restored

Jimmy, it's called the Glory Days syndrome. Time to return to the house. What did you do with medication we gave you?

I remember the Carter days and not very fondly. How much of my life was wasted in line waiting to get five dollars worth of gas. Do you think any one of the hostages or their relatives think his performance was superior? How about the rate of inflation, Jimmy? What does Amy think is the biggest issue facing the US today? As a nine year old she thought it was nuclear proliferation, what about now? You were a dismal failure then and no attempt of re-writting history will change that.

  • 132 votes
#1.3 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 1:55 PM EDT

Jimmy Carter is a strict revisionist - whatever he said or did is strictly guaranteed to be rewritten to the best of his ability to convince historians that he had/has value.

  • 79 votes
#1.4 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 2:02 PM EDT

Every day should start out with a good laugh.

This was an especially funny one.

For a REAL analysis of Carter's performance, take a look at the Average Misery Index of all recent Presidents. Also note Bill Clinton's Average vs G W Bush.

Here's the link;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misery_index_(economics)

  • 63 votes
#1.5 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 2:06 PM EDT

Look, I really don't think anyone should go around tooting their own horn, deserved or not.

  • 31 votes
#1.6 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 2:08 PM EDT
Comment author avatarstarfox7000Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Can you people have a reality check. ALL PRESIDENTS have budgets that need to be created and spent.

1. Yes, we DO have to pay for our soldiers and have a huge military budget (unless some of you useless, fat lazy couch potatoes volunteer a tour of duty in Afghanistan without pay)
2. Yes, we DO have to pay for the street lights, public libraries, national parks, light railways, public transportation, and other public services you lazy fat numb-skulls want but do not want to pay for (unless you volunteer, AGAIN, to go to every national park and city in America and do trash pick up for all the irresponsible pollutants in America that do not care where they leave there trash).
3. Yes, the economy SUCKS because of that idiot former President Bush that the majority of you people complaining VOTED for. So essentially, this is ALL YOUR VAULT in the first place.

Why don't you Un-American Traitors do us all a favor and get the Hell out of this Country!!!!!

  • 64 votes
#1.7 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 2:09 PM EDT
jack-3333Deleted

Yes, President Obama is the brightest and if you do not realize how lucky you are to have a president like him, well, you're a fool

For 20 years of Republican White House administrations they closed American factorys and helped move American family waged union jobs all overseas. Republican White House administrations repeatedly favored overseas corporations with enormous tax breaks and free American taxpayer subsidy's amounting to Billions of free cash. Cut Taxes for Economic Improvement? NOT HELPFUL if there are NO JOBS thanks to Republican politicians mere tax cut's on nothing = nothing. Bush jr. already tried to offset federal spending with generous tax cuts, IT FAILED. DOESN'T WORK! Republican's do not have any working plan to improve America's Economy, Bush jr. tried tax cuts, those FAILED. Bush jr. tried War funding stimulus, that FAILED. Reagan-Bush tried trickle down stimulus, IT FAILED, DOESN'T WORK.

President Obama's large stimulus injection SAVED AMERICA from going into a deep recession and likely another great depression, over ALL Republican objections. America's economy went from a DEEP negative growth to a slight 3% positive economic growth. Europe's nations tried a smaller stimulus injection which resulted in a much smaller recovery going from a deep negative growth to a slight 1% positive economic growth. That PROVES the Republican party's lock step plan would have doomed America, thank God President Obama tried a massive stimulus injection to the States instead of following the bad Republican advise.

  • 79 votes
#1.9 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 2:16 PM EDT
Comment author avatarIndy LibRestored

Pro-corporatist policies have been constant since 1980, including the years with a dem president. The last thing Bush the Younger did before he left the White House was give hundreds of billions of dollars to his buds. The first thing Obama did when he got there was give hundreds of billions more to Bush's friends. Carter was the last president to not be beholden to the corporations and he paid the price.

  • 46 votes
#1.10 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 2:22 PM EDT

@starfox7000: Before you post again, I'm going to have to ask that you stay in formation and do a barrel roll.

  • 14 votes
#1.11 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 2:23 PM EDT

My my, starfox, why don'y you tell us what you really think.

  • 6 votes
#1.12 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 2:28 PM EDT
Comment author avatarClintHoraceRestored

Yes, President Obama is the brightest and if you do not realize how lucky you are to have a president like him, well, you're a fool

PFFTHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

  • 52 votes
#1.13 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 2:33 PM EDT
Comment author avatareapeauRestored

The best quote about Jimmy Carter: "The only man to ever use the Presidency as a stepping stone to greater things."

Jimmy Carter was a President in a difficult time, and has since been a tireless advocate for civil rights, the poor, the homeless, and peace in the world. If half the people who criticize Jimmy Carter did half as much as he has for the world, we would be living in a paradise.

He was obviously correct when he said he has done more than any other ex-President, and I would add that he has done MUCH more than any of the Republican ex-Presidents, who seem to sit on their butts and collect speaking fees.

But, the thing I admire most about him is that he has remained humble. We don't think of him as President Carter, he hasn't tried to be the Monarch that so many other ex-presidents do when they retire. Jimmy Carter is just that, "Jimmy," a worker, an advocate for what is right, and a man of the people.

What other ex-President has done as much?

  • 84 votes
#1.14 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 2:38 PM EDT
Comment author avatarIndy LibRestored

Very well said eapeau.

  • 21 votes
#1.15 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 2:43 PM EDT
Comment author avatarPatrick-1112710Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

lookatmycastle

Ok, I have suspected for a long time you really are Obama.

Now I know for sure.

Don't you have a vacation you need to get to?

  • 36 votes
#1.16 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 2:51 PM EDT
Comment author avatarDerek-381097Restored

Ego not entirely misplaced.

I think Carter sucked as a President. Undeniably. He's also done more than any ex-president still alive, Democrat or Republican. What people are probably crying about is that there's some truth to what he says.

When a Republican matches his track record, there will be a hue and cry from the left about how he ruined the world, and blah, babbity blah, blah blah. George W. Bush could end up being the guy, if he decides to use his ex-presidency with making a difference instead of collecting fees, like Bill Clinton.

Those who think Obama will be the worst president in history are probably just all mad that he probably won't be, due to Nixon, Carter and George W. leading the way in assinine presidents. But that doesn't mean that an assinine President can't be a force as an ex-president. And those who want to mock them, probably are at the effect of them, knowingly or not, and willingly or not.

  • 16 votes
#1.17 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 2:56 PM EDT

I remember Jimmy Carter very well.

I remember 18% home mortgage rates.

And 20+% interest rates for autos and other forms of consumer credit.

And much, much more.

The American public couldn't wait to put the Carter Administration in its rear-view mirror...after just one term. That's really the ultimate judgment rendered on any President...do you want him back for a second bite of the apple?

Carter can say what he likes...the electorate had THEIR say in November 1980.

  • 57 votes
#1.18 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 2:58 PM EDT
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Comment author avatarB. HonestRestored

Wow, the poor right wingers just cannot deal with the truth, collapsing posts that do NOT break the CoH, just ones that they dislike. Sorry that the truth bothers you so badly!

Tyler, please reopen the posts of Starfox and Lookatmycastle, they in NO WAY violate the CoH and the people collapsing them need to be dealt with promptly!

  • 31 votes
#1.20 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 3:08 PM EDT

Patrick 1112710 - lookatmycastle

Ok, I have suspected for a long time you really are Obama.

Now I know for sure.

-------------------------------------------

Patrick, even though we are probably polar opposites politically, I have to admit I was thinking the same thing.

  • 6 votes
#1.21 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 3:11 PM EDT
Comment author avatarW. GoinRestored

Madison, no the worst president in the history of the United States is and will always be George Bush.

  • 37 votes
#1.22 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 3:16 PM EDT
Comment author avatarsoupy55Restored

Jimmy never met a tin horn dictator he didn't love. Tried to micro-manage the world. He even managed the White House (now Red House) tennis courts. Jimmy is the number 2 America hater in the world behind B Hussein Obama and Michael Moore (tie). What conflict did he end, what civil right abuse did he resolve, none, the big goose egg. The Carter Center is a communist organization. I hope he still puts on his sweater and turns his heat down, the dope.

  • 29 votes
#1.23 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 3:18 PM EDT
Comment author avatarRichC.Restored

No problem with that...Dubya takes that award by a landslide.

  • 13 votes
#1.24 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 3:20 PM EDT

B. Honest-

Since we're on the topic of the truth...

Are you still a 9/11 "truther"?

  • 8 votes
#1.25 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 3:23 PM EDT

Did I wake up in an alternate universe today? Carter was superior and the recession is over? I feel like I'm in an old episode of Sliders and need to make the next jump.

  • 32 votes
#1.26 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 3:44 PM EDT
Comment author avatarLee in CAExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Lookatmycastle's comment was "collapsed by the community"? You right wing tools can't stand to have the truth even be present, which is surprising, considering how good you've gotten at ignoring it.

JC was the only honest president of the 20th century. And as far as Reagan getting the hostages back - what kind of a tool do you have to be to not put the Iran-Contra deal and them being released on inaguration day together? Mr. "I will never negotiate with terrorists" had already cut a deal with Iran when he said that on TV. St. Ronny of Hollywood, I'm talking about.

  • 27 votes
#1.27 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 3:44 PM EDT

Didn't Carter get attacked by a rabbit while he was fishing?

  • 13 votes
#1.28 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 3:45 PM EDT

Sven-

That was nothing compared to what the electorate did to him in 1980.

  • 9 votes
#1.29 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 3:52 PM EDT

30 yrs later the world is still suffering from his gallacticly stupid foreign policy in places like Angola, and Zimbabwe and his helping to create the African Dictator's Club. It will take another 30 yrs for the world to straighten out that mess, if ever.

I think we had all of his "superior" help that we can stand.

  • 24 votes
#1.30 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 4:06 PM EDT

"Carter must be thanking Obama every day he no longer will go down in history as the worse president ever."-

Careful, Maddie- we are not supposed to mention Bush anymore....

  • 13 votes
#1.31 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 4:09 PM EDT

Carter is superior to none, but equal to one and that is the current Bonehead in Chief.

  • 34 votes
#1.32 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 4:11 PM EDT

Yet another woderful use for duct tape.....to shut Jummy Carter up!!!

  • 23 votes
#1.33 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 4:12 PM EDT

Carter is the one that started this housing crisis, with his idea that everyone should own a home, even if they can't afford to keep up the payments or pay their bills. Go back to your Peanut Farm, where you belong.

  • 25 votes
#1.34 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 4:21 PM EDT

You need look no further than Jimbo Carter for the man most responsible for the rise of Islamo Fascist Terrorism. If he'd done the right thing on his watch when the US embassy was stormed in Iran in 1976, 9/11 would never have happened. He allowed that filth a toe hold when they could have easilybeen destroyed. Now 44 years and countless thousands of lives later, here we are engaged in a war he was too chicken to wage. He was a nice man, but a horrid president, in way over his head, exactly like Odumbo now.

  • 29 votes
#1.35 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 4:27 PM EDT

The only vacuum that Carter needs to fill is the one between his ears.

I think I still have an "I survived the Carter Administration" T-Shirt around here somewhere.

  • 23 votes
#1.36 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 4:35 PM EDT

A legend in his own mind. So many of our current debacles date back to his inept administration. Iraq,Iran all began their downhill slides on JC's watch. Oh,and Brian, the Shah was in charge of Iran in 1976,and Gerald Ford was the President. You must be confusing 1979 (when the Iranian revolution took place ,the Iranian Embassy was held hostage, and Saddam seized power in Iraq) with 1976, because Jimmah was definitely the President in 1979 !!

  • 15 votes
#1.37 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 4:42 PM EDT

Jimmy Carter....A legend in his own mind.........

  • 20 votes
#1.38 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 4:49 PM EDT

Unbelievable, this stumblebum presided over runaway inflation and mortgage rates in excess of 15% while telling the American people that America's best times were behind it. He was only elected due to the backlash from Watergate and from the beginning he demonstrated a complete lack of competence and lets not forget he shared genes with his brother who was famous for that picture of him, drunk pissing on an airport runway. Ah, Billy Beer.

With the economy in the toilet he made a last ditch attempt to accomplish something but it ended with a disaster in the Iranian desert. Those of us old enough to remember his presidency know better.

  • 20 votes
#1.39 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 5:01 PM EDT

I have to admit, Jimmy has done more good since he left office than he ever did in office. Now he just needs to learn when it's better he not speak.

  • 8 votes
#1.40 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 5:05 PM EDT

@lookatmycastle... and others who think like him...

lets start with this, you said it was republicans that ran union jobs over seas??? are you freaking crazy!?!? Union companies took work out of the country for one reason. they couldnt afford to sell a product anymore at a competitive price. WHY? well because the unions were forcing compainies to give a raise to people when they couldnt afford to. Had to pay the employee enough to cover union dues, insurance, and so on, all that and more. what, you think a buisness is going to stay in buisness to continue to loose $, when it cant even sell it at an affordable cost? your a moron if you think that. like Barry Nobama.

The one company that actually stood up to the union, and now i consider buying one of their bikes, is Harley Davidson. It gave the employees a chance, without moving the whole company to another state, and thank your a$$es every employee there they didnt ship to Mexico like everyone else, including the big 3. i dont think HD would have relocated to mexico no matter, it would have shut down 1st ... i think.

  • 12 votes
#1.41 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 5:14 PM EDT

Comment collapsed by the community

HA!, beat ya to it.

  • 4 votes
#1.42 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 5:17 PM EDT

Kirby, I see you! Get back to work!

  • 1 vote
#1.43 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 5:20 PM EDT

Boy, how did I get collapsed!? A nice tribute to a living President who has done so much for the world. Certainly doesn't seem to be Advertising, Inflammatory, or of No Value...and it didn't violate the CoH.

The wingnuts are out tonight.

  • 16 votes
#1.44 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 5:25 PM EDT
Comment author avatarJody, IowaRestored

Carter may not have been a good president but he was certainly better than Bush 43. As for the claims by some above, Carter added 42% to the debt. Reagan added 189%, Bush 41 55% and Bush 43 another 89%. Facts, not fiction. Criticize Carter's policies but he has done a great deal of humanitarian efforts and worked for peace. Tell us, please what republicans have done in their post presidential years. Yes, Bush 41 worked with Clinton on the sunami; Bush 43 worked with Clinton on Haiti then wiped his hand on Clinton's shirt after shaking hands with someone.

I see the usual afternoon laggers have decided liberals are not entitled to free speech. Figures, the GOPers want to take away rights for many, why not free speech too.

  • 21 votes
#1.45 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 5:30 PM EDT

At least there is someone out there willing to help move our country in better direction than the under-handed, same'ol B.S. Republicans did. Actually it's G.W. that Carter should thank for taking the title of worse president ever. Carter never went out with a bang like G.W. Bush. Almost a complete economic collapse.

  • 10 votes
#1.46 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 5:39 PM EDT

Yes, Dave, a collapse caused primarily by the actions of the Democrat-controlled congress and their "mortgages for everyone" folly.

  • 12 votes
#1.47 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 5:53 PM EDT

Spider did BUSH sign any mortgage law? If the dems controlled congress did anything that the Retardicans did not want I am sure Your SAVIOR the great War Criminal Bush would of VETOED, and I dont remember any such veto do YOU?

  • 7 votes
#1.48 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 7:37 PM EDT

you lazy fat numb-skulls

Why don't you Un-American Traitors do us all a favor and get the Hell out of this Country!!!!!

starfox7000, you're suspended for a day for violating #1 of the Code of Honor.

Above all else, respect others. Address issues and arguments and refrain from making personal attacks.

Second suspension in a week. Shape up.

Several comments restored.

  • 2 votes
#1.49 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 8:08 PM EDT

'the Carter Center goes where the United States government does not, "to fill the vacuums in the world." '

Somebody's got to collect the dirt, and that's about the only thing Carter was good for..

LOL

  • 1 vote
#1.50 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 9:45 PM EDT
Comment author avataropajackExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Finally someone who isn't afraid to call out Fox News and call Glen Beck the liar he is.

  • 9 votes
#1.51 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 10:08 PM EDT

Indy Lib, Nice posts. One must look into the context of his comments. Carter is correct. He has done more than any other living ex-president to benefit human kind through his foundation. I take my hat off for him.

As for worst president ever, well that would be dubya.

  • 12 votes
#1.52 - Tue Sep 21, 2010 6:33 AM EDT

Thank you!!!

  • 2 votes
#1.53 - Tue Sep 21, 2010 9:34 AM EDT
Comment author avatarsadiemae14Restored

Just like Obama, another egotistical elitist ass.

  • 4 votes
#1.54 - Tue Sep 21, 2010 9:35 AM EDT

I served in the military overseas when Carter was president. That was one of the toughest times of my life. I'm not going to blame him for everything but he helped cause alot of problems we had. This was cold war and we didn't even know if we were going to be paid. It put hardships on the families of those serving. The pay wasn't that great and the dollar kept going down. We hung in there but it was tough. He didn't help at all.

    #1.55 - Tue Sep 21, 2010 9:43 AM EDT

    Hmmm, did you forget about Bush and the unwarranted wars that he and his administration had NO ideal how to pay for? We are in this mess because of HIM, not OBAMA!

    Quit being a Pea Party member and give a concrete ideal instead of just spreading lies, ignorance, and rumors!

    • 9 votes
    #1.56 - Tue Sep 21, 2010 9:52 AM EDT

    Listen to what Carter is saying. He is stating that he is the best former president. He never stated that he was the best president. He is simply saying that since leaving office, he's done more for the American people than the others. The others spend their time campaigning for their respective parties. Carter is right. He is the best former president.

    • 13 votes
    #1.57 - Tue Sep 21, 2010 9:56 AM EDT

    I agree Jimmey Carter is a excellent former President, I have much love and admiration for him as he more likened to be a saint. Jimmey cater has worked tirelessly for the poor, like Mother Theresa but better. He has put roofs over a many a family with a program that has lasted better than a decade. If you don't toot your horn than who will. Go head former president Jimmey Carter, horn horn deseves a loud Blast because you are a true humanitarian. Hurray for Jimmey Carter

    • 12 votes
    #1.58 - Tue Sep 21, 2010 10:08 AM EDT

    "Jimmy Carter was a President in a difficult time"

    Really? So no other presidents have faced difficult times? Tell me one period during any 4 year stretch that could not be argued as a "difficult time."

    Amazing how certain people can justify failures or provide a pass for mediocrity and poor leadership skills.

    • 1 vote
    #1.59 - Tue Sep 21, 2010 10:10 AM EDT

    I was born in the 50's and yes I experienced this idiots 1 term(thank godonly 1 like Obamas). The young people who think Odumbo is so go they should been around this penis farmer. 100 carat idiot

    • 1 vote
    #1.60 - Tue Sep 21, 2010 10:15 AM EDT

    Mr. Carter is very old. We are obviously seeing the effects of both long term memory loss and Alzheimers Disease.

    • 4 votes
    #1.61 - Tue Sep 21, 2010 10:20 AM EDT

    I wonder how many Dixie cups had to be sold or how many church collection plates had to be passed around to fund the obvious propaganda on this thread alone.

    • 1 vote
    #1.62 - Tue Sep 21, 2010 10:24 AM EDT

    Amen to Madison of NY.............you are so right!!!!!!!!!!

    • 1 vote
    #1.63 - Tue Sep 21, 2010 10:28 AM EDT

    I think it is funny how everyone complains about Obama's and this administrations back room deals, non-transparency etc. When the reason Carter didn't get that much done is because he would not play at those games. Even though he had a democratic majority in Congress, they did not work with him because he would not deal.

    • 3 votes
    #1.64 - Tue Sep 21, 2010 10:50 AM EDT

    If Carter feels so superior about what he says he's able to take care of that our working government can't, or feels they shouldn't become involved in..........what the hell happened during his presidency with Iran? Why couldn't he help those hostages of ours when they were being held, tortured, and starved? What's up with that JIMMY? It took a president with kahunas just coming into office after him to fix what he didn't have the guts to deal with. Anybody else remember how the Iranians walked all over this nation, holding our people hostage for over a year? Reagan said before coming into office he would take care of them immediately. Iran didn't even wait for him to be inaugurated before releasing our people. Carter didn't/couldn't do jack while in office. He was a spineless jellyfish. Now he's superior? Ha! That's rich!!!!!

    • 1 vote
    #1.65 - Tue Sep 21, 2010 10:54 AM EDT

    What has always bothered me about Carter was his lack of support from the religious right. The fundamentalists loved Reagan who never attended church except when he was speaking, was never baptized, and did not belong to any denomination. He claimed that he didn't go to church because it would put the congregation in danger. (This was from a speech in front of several thousand Southern Baptists.)

    But with Carter, a regular church-goer all his life, a deacon in his local church, and someone who taught Sunday School whenever he had the chance and spent much of his post-presidency supporting causes such as Habitat For Humanity, the right wing religious nuts hated him.

    When he proposed that we adopt an official foreign policy of supporting any democratically-elected government, even if we disagreed with their positions. The GOP only wanted us to support democratically-elected governments ONLY when they agreed with us. Historically the "Carter Doctrine" would have been a good long-run move. Carter also wanted to stop dealing with dictators and with any country conducting genocide against another. The GOP loved Marcos and were active in supporting the problems in Ethiopia.

    It's strange that the GOP and the right-wing religious hate Carter (and mostly because he acts like a Christian.)

    • 2 votes
    #1.66 - Tue Sep 21, 2010 10:57 AM EDT

    "I feel that my role as a former president is probably superior to that of other presidents."

    He's certainly been into a lot of mischief collaborating with America's enemies and taking their side of the argument. He may even approve of them wanting to murder Americans.

    Kind of makes one wonder if he is out of touch wil reality.

      #1.67 - Tue Sep 21, 2010 11:17 AM EDT

      ROY WILSON-336103 said: Every day should start out with a good laugh. This was an especially funny one.

      For a REAL analysis of Carter's performance, take a look at the Average Misery Index of all recent Presidents. Also note Bill Clinton's Average vs G W Bush. Here's the link;

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misery_index_(economics)

      I'm Guessing Roy doesn't understand how to read statistics.

      Carter inherited a country that was already upset and going through an up and down cycle of the misery index. Look at the numbers through Ford and Nixon.

      Of course then you would have to accept that your argument is flawed AND that each president inherits the legacy of the prior presidents.

      Let alone the fact the president can not control many of the elements that cause the misery index to move up or down.

      • 2 votes
      #1.68 - Tue Sep 21, 2010 11:18 AM EDT

      Does he mean doing things like making an agreement with North Korea that was violated even before the ink was dry? He got a Nobel for that and Kim never even bothered to abide by it. Carter is, and always has been, nothing but a naive pushover....

      • 1 vote
      #1.69 - Tue Sep 21, 2010 11:24 AM EDT
      Rob HuthDeleted

      No doubt Carter was and is the best President among all: Don't blame him for the Iran hostage crisis, that was CIA and the father Bush's plan to win the election for a filmactor and Reaganomics. Demons of Mujahedeen in Afgannistan was given to us by Regan, Budget deficits, and suffering of Middle class all were the gifts of corrupt GOPs and corporate America who put profits before our beloved country the USA.

      Father Bush gave us the adventurism of first Gulf war and son Bush gave us the corporate wars to benefit the defense industry and likes of Helliburton. Have anybody ever figured the amount we spent on these unnecessary wars would have made a significant diefference in our lives here in the USA. GOP now has a new agenda with George W. Bush tried in Iraq to incite hate against all relgions in the USA. God help us.

      • 2 votes
      #1.71 - Tue Sep 21, 2010 11:42 AM EDT

      you know what people need to stop being so judgemental, no one knows what was going on at that photo shoot and we all know how the media can take ones words out of context. the media to me are like 2 yr olds, you have to watch what you say around them because they will repeat it but nothing like what you said.be specific; pretty much you have to draw pictures. journalism must require the ability to exaggerate in monumental proportions in order to succeed. im just saying.

        #1.72 - Tue Sep 21, 2010 11:44 AM EDT

        Yes, Carter has done some good since he was president. In fact, he has been a better ex-president than he was a president! His latest excapades are a joke though. he has no authority to do anything for the US gvt. I took out a bussiness loan at 21% (ouch) during his tenure. he was the second worst predident in my lifetime. Obama is the worst!

        • 1 vote
        #1.73 - Tue Sep 21, 2010 11:49 AM EDT

        Thank God i am a Reagan Baby!! My Mom and Dad had to close down their small business under the Carter Admin. They lost their home because of Peanut farmer Jimmy and the Democraps!! Gas was through the roof under Carter! America spoke in 1980 when Reagan was elected in a landslide! I can't wait till America speaks in 42 days and the democraps are standing in the unemployment lines to see how it feels!! I also can't wait till 2012 when Obama gets his A** kicked in a landslide because America is getting tired of him!! I am a proud voter of Bush jr and will never regret voting for him!

          #1.74 - Tue Sep 21, 2010 12:08 PM EDT

          I am totally blown away with this "story." All five of them are shysters!

          If Carter IS thought to be the best out of the group, (which, at this point it is sad to say he may very well be... but he still sucked), then we are just waiting for the glug-glug-glug as someone has already pulled the handle/chain to flush the USA down the drain.

          God/G_d/god/dog/Amenhotep/P'tah/Annu help us all!!!

          Now pass me the peanuts, Jimmy, and get me a beer, Billy...

          • 2 votes
          #1.75 - Tue Sep 21, 2010 12:16 PM EDT

          The fact that he has to write a book defending a legacy only means that there is no legacy!

          • 2 votes
          #1.76 - Tue Sep 21, 2010 12:27 PM EDT

          @ Chris-537131

          We dislike Carter for the same reason we dislike Charles Stanley. They say they are Christians, but they are whacked out Southern Baptists that are Calvinists. Southern Baptists are fine, Carter's Southern Baptists are not.

          • 1 vote
          #1.77 - Tue Sep 21, 2010 12:31 PM EDT

          Good grief. I cringed through this whole interview because I was amazed and afraid of what would come out of his mouth next....and that smug smile. Unbelievable! I already thought he is the worse President in my era but oh my, I never realized he had such a huge ego. Now, when Clinton was in office I had money in the bank and gas in our vehicles.

          • 1 vote
          #1.78 - Tue Sep 21, 2010 12:46 PM EDT

          You right wing tools

          Cut it out, Lee in CA.

          Lots of comments restored, serial reporters' reporting privileges revoked for a month.

          Do not report comments based on disagreement, but if they are Code of Honor violations.

          • 2 votes
          #1.79 - Tue Sep 21, 2010 12:51 PM EDT

          Jimmy Carter is right. He has done more good since he has left office than any other President. That is a fact. History is going to show him as a good President, too. He tried to begin to get us off foreign oil and he tried to decrease the deficit. He is honest to a fault. And Ronald Reagan did not successfully negotiate with Iran to release the prisoners, he sent George H. Bush to made a deal with Iran not to release them before he came into office. That was when the weapons were sent to Iran as part of the deal.

          President Obama has done many good things since he has been in office. I don't know why, no matter what the subject, there all these comments blasting him, as though these blasts of hot air will make the statements true.

          w

          • 3 votes
          #1.80 - Tue Sep 21, 2010 6:09 PM EDT

          Jimmy Carter suffers from DELUSIONS OF GRANDEUR !!

          Barack Obama suffers from DELUSIONS OF ADEQUACY !!!!

          Obama's leftist agenda involves growing the federal government at every opportunity..........like a cancer taking over the U.S. economy. Wow, 2309 pages for the Health Care Bill followed by TWICE as many pages for related REGULATIONS. Barackracy anyone ???????

          • 1 vote
          #1.81 - Wed Sep 22, 2010 3:03 PM EDT

          Carter always thought he was superior when he was president....at the expense of our country. He is a little child trying to get another gold star or smiley face sticker....

            #1.82 - Fri Sep 24, 2010 4:43 PM EDT

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            The fundamental difference between Republicans and the thinking community is they have different goals. One side, for example, may want to reach an agreement on something that will make the world a better place. The other side just wants to win.

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            • 1 vote
            #1.83 - Sat Sep 25, 2010 10:25 AM EDT
            Reply

            Worst president. Best ex-president

            • 34 votes
            #2 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 1:26 PM EDT

            Those are the words I was looking for! That is the truth...

            • 9 votes
            #2.1 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 2:07 PM EDT
            Comment author avatarlookatmycastleExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

            Hey fools if your right wingers had not spent so much money on your military machine, you would not be in this mess !! You have not realized yet that it will ruined a country ?? What has your military machine has given to you personally ??? NOTHING !

            Do I need to remind you that President Clinton left Bush a surplus budget ?? Do I need to remind you that Bush brought the deficit to 11 trillion dollars, money who should have been spent on the country and its citizens ? You right wingers are truely non only stupid, but insane !

            President Obama is a great president and I applaud what he has done so far to repair the mess you neocons left ! You ruined the country with your bad politics. You are totally incompetent to run this country, this is for sure !

            • 23 votes
            #2.2 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 2:34 PM EDT

            lol @ look. he is so great that our defecit is now just shy of 13.5 trillion dollars. at least try to come up with a logical argument

            • 11 votes
            #2.3 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 2:54 PM EDT
            Comment author avatarcmon-864012Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

            lookatmycastle, bet your castle is in the clouds, man. let me guess, you're 16, no, 14 yrs old. congrats on using a big word like incompetent.

            • 5 votes
            #2.4 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 2:58 PM EDT

            Lookatmycastle, well, it may be the last time but I will attempt this one more time. President Clinton engaged in what most economists refer to as a gimmick. If you look at the budget, it consists of two major components, a private component and a public component. The private component is what most people refer to as the "budget", the public component is what can be referred to as the government part of the budget.

            What Clinton did with a republican Congress I might add, is that he definitely reduced the private component of the budget, which is why many people believe he had a surplus. However, the public component went out of sight. When you take both parts together, there was a net deficit. No administration has run a surplus since the Eisenhower administration, every one - Republican and Democrat has run a deficit, a function of entitlements. That is why Social Security has IOUs, why every "funded" entitlement is running in the red; the government plays games with the money you and I pay in taxes and in mandatory deductions.

            Look it up for yourself, stop repeating a lie that is being fostered in an attempt to prove a legacy. If you believe that Clinton had a surplus you must give the Republicans credit since they were the majority in the Congress, and remember, Congress owns the purse. They are the ones that actually approve all expenditures.

            • 17 votes
            #2.5 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 3:11 PM EDT
            Comment author avatarlogdumpExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

            Well it seems you and your ilk are in the minority since Bush holds the crown. I leave this t the historians to monitor how a president time in office did after he left because that is the true test and in every one of the polls he is rising and Reagan is in free fall. Was he a great president? No but he did have his moments of greatness in the Palestinian Israeli peace accord he came within an eyelash of settling the dispute which may have changed the world. Without that conflict the militants had no source to rely on and 911 may not have happened etc. Blaming Carter fo 18% inflation is nonsense. He was president when oil went up dramatically and thus so did everything else. And as far as the hostage thing went we now know Reagan had a plan to send arms to Iran to free the hostages. Kinda like they chose our next President which was as big a mistake as we could have made.

            • 13 votes
            #2.6 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 3:22 PM EDT

            TJM07, what you said about budget surpluses and deficits is VERY accurate (and thus true). The lefties will never admit this is so, and constantly harp on phony stats promulgated by their "leaders." Many know the real truth, but deny it because it just doesn't fit in with their belief system. Truly sad.

            • 9 votes
            #2.7 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 5:12 PM EDT

            i was going to say 9 or 10.... but i suppose giving the better part of how good education is drifting maybe your right.

              #2.8 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 5:16 PM EDT

              TJM07 - If you believe that Clinton had a surplus you must give the Republicans credit since they were the majority in the Congress, and remember, Congress owns the purse. They are the ones that actually approve all expenditures.

              So by that rationale - it's still the Republicans screwing our country up!

              • 3 votes
              #2.9 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 5:47 PM EDT

              Hey fools

              That's no way to start. Who would listen to an opening salvo like that in real life? lookatmycastle, you're new. Get familiar:

              Above all else, respect others. Address issues and arguments and refrain from making personal attacks.

              You're suspended for a day for violating #1 of the Code of Honor.

              • 3 votes
              #2.10 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 8:11 PM EDT

              Lach, I don't understand your logic. If the Republicans controlled congress during the last 6 years of Clinton's administration and you credit him with a surplus (falsely) then by extenstion you must credit the republicans for the same surplus because they had the responsibility for expenditures. Conversely, the democrats have controlled Congress for the past 4 years and the deficit has grown, therefore, you must focus on the democrats for the increase in the deficit. Things are so bad, they won't vote on the 2010 budget until after the mid term elections, because the proposed Obama budget adds 1.5 trillion to deficit spending, money we don't have, and the democrats don't want to have to answer questions about it during the election cycle.

              I hope that helps

              • 7 votes
              #2.11 - Tue Sep 21, 2010 8:13 AM EDT

              Explain this, why is it when ask if Palin can be president, there is a pause followed by silence? I will answer the question properly! Mama grizzly is stupid and can't lead herself through a tunnel that has the sun at the exit!

              You Pea Party members/republicans are in for a shocker!

              • 2 votes
              #2.12 - Tue Sep 21, 2010 9:56 AM EDT

              It's funny that all the candidates campaign on morality, then you have one such as carter who actually exemplifies it and all the gop'ers dump on him. Par for the course!

              • 5 votes
              #2.13 - Tue Sep 21, 2010 10:08 AM EDT

              Those are my sediments exactly Please_NObama! He didn't/couldn't do jack @!$%#e while in office. The Iran hostage situation will be a thorn in my side forever. Made the USA look like a bunch of pantie waists! Why did he have to wait all these years to decide to finally act like a President of the United States? I don't get it, unless he's trying to make up for his blunders while he was in office.

              • 1 vote
              #2.14 - Tue Sep 21, 2010 11:03 AM EDT

              Live&LetLive said: "Those are my sediments...." LOL LOL LOL. And just what type of SEDIMENTS are you leaving behind?

              • 1 vote
              #2.15 - Tue Sep 21, 2010 12:17 PM EDT

              Hey lookatmycaslte,

              "What has your military machine has given to you personally ???"

              Let's see; cold weather training, desert training, mountain training, survival training, military training (camouflage, cover, concealment, small unit tactics, interlocking fields of fire, enfilade fire, fire discipline, etc), endurance, perseverance, confidence, insight, small arms training, marksmanship training and, oh yeah, the ability to shatter a watermelon at 500 yards with iron sights. Semper Fi Mac.

              • 1 vote
              #2.16 - Tue Sep 21, 2010 12:47 PM EDT
              Reply

              Well he had the most ruinous presidency in modern history, economically, socially, militarily. So I guess he feels like he should try to defend his work since then.

              But maybe you should let others judge your work, Jimmy. Maybe you aren't objective.

              • 29 votes
              #3 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 1:27 PM EDT

              So Jeff, do you have a former republican president you can be proud of yet? Silence is golden and that is what you will find because there is not one former republican president who has done one thing good for anyone else without being embarassed to the point of doing so.

              Not sure where you guys were during President Carters administration but for me and my working family it was much much better than the 8 disasterous years of regan combined with the torture of bush I for 4.

              Please - you are incorrect, the worst president is a tie between ronnie reaygun and georgie II. And neither will be remembered kindly for their actions after their time in office either.

              • 25 votes
              #3.1 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 1:32 PM EDT

              Union,

              One's opinion of any president, governor, etc.... is very subjective and is ruled by the person's political attitude....doesn't mean your are correct just like my opinions do not make me correct in your eyes. Because, I did well under Reagan and Bush.....see what I mean?

              • 14 votes
              #3.2 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 1:37 PM EDT

              Jeff,

              I could have sworn that award went to Bill Clinton...I mean, the Chickenhawks couldn't blame him enough for 9/11 while at the same time believing that there were no terrorist attacks under President What's-His-Name's watch.

              • 9 votes
              #3.3 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 1:39 PM EDT

              Da,

              if Clinton can't be blamed for 9/11 or at least take some of the blame, then how can people still blame Bush for what Obama is doing to the country at this point in his tenure?

              • 33 votes
              #3.4 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 1:41 PM EDT

              Big difference between deciding not to assassinate someone and taking a good part of a decade to ruin the economy.

              Not that George W. got Bin Laden either. Maybe 'Bama will finally finish the job.

              • 11 votes
              #3.5 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 1:45 PM EDT

              That headline is misleading, and taints your opinion before you even read the article....

              Here's the MSNBC Headline/Link....

              Carter: 'Probably superior' to other ex-presidents

              Here's the Carter Quote...

              No. I-- I feel that my role as a former president is probably superior to that of other presidents.

              A subtle difference that CHANGES THE ENTIRE CONTEXT AND MEANING of the quote...

              That's LAME journalism... You need to better thatn that MSNBC....

              • 29 votes
              #3.6 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 1:52 PM EDT

              Union Baby, you are so out of touch with reality it is scary. I am sorry you even vote. Reagan was elected in a landslide by America. He was also elected to a second term by a landslide. His VP was then elected as President because the job he did was so good in the eyes of AMERICA. So sad your eyes are only filled with hate for anything on the right.

              Carter sucked. I was there. Lost my job AND my house because of him. He wasn't elected to a second term. Why? Because he sucked! You voted for him when he had 14% unemployment? Double digit inflation? 20% interest rates? You are severly lacking in judgment.

              Ronald Reagan was perhaps the best president in the last 100 years. It's not just me OR the people on the Right saying to, it's the American people. You know, those idiots you despise, the sheep. the lessor excuses for humanity. Please, win the lottery, purchase an island and move.

              • 23 votes
              #3.7 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 2:38 PM EDT
              Comment author avatarV...Restored

              Chuck... as such a huge Reagan fan... I'm sure you can attest to the fact that Reagan imposed the highest tax increase in US History, and was also in favor or illegal immigrant amnesty...?

              • 9 votes
              #3.8 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 3:10 PM EDT

              he had the most ruinous presidency in modern history, economically, socially, militarily

              The discussion is about Carter not BushII

              • 2 votes
              #3.9 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 3:23 PM EDT
              Comment author avatarJeff-1541632Restored

              Chuck-108614

              Carter sucked. I was there. Lost my job AND my house because of him. He wasn't elected to a second term. Why? Because he sucked! You voted for him when he had 14% unemployment? Double digit inflation? 20% interest rates? You are severly lacking in judgment.

              Chuck, your man love for reagan is making you forget a few things.

              Unemployment was not at 14% in 1980. it topped out at 10% in 1982 during Reagan's first term. the rate today is as high as it was during Reagan's first term. yes we had double digitinflation as well as interest rates were sky high. those were left overs from the Ford administration, carters did nothen about it so for me he will never get a pass on the economy.

              what your missing from Reagan'spresidency is that he cuts domestic spending and forces seniors to choose between eating and paying rent. he cut SS for dependend children over 18 (i planned on using my SS to pay for college like my older brothers and sisters did) but he took that away as well as the federal student loan program. a generation of 18 year olds had to quit school and work, instead of finishing college or join the military. the military was the biggest employer during his first term.

              he also created a society of homeless people all over this country at the same time gving tax cuts to the wealthy, in-turn they took millions of jobs over seas. the gap between the rich and poor was widened to a point that the compared it to the gap before the depression.

              Greed and scandal followed along with lets remember, his secret war in central America, he funded by selling arms to Iran. the same Iran we fear may start a nuclear war today , the same Iran that held american hostages for almost 2 years. he gave amisty to millions of illegals, something that if President Obama does people here will try to have him Imperached. but reagan did it and he is your hero. your hero sold arms to Iran, if there was one thing that has made americans less safe, that was it. then he threw Olie North under the Bus, during the senate hearings. if his CIA dirctor had not died, reagan would have been impeached.

              Yea chuck, Reagan was a great president if you were rich and did not give a dam about your fellow americans.

              • 17 votes
              #3.10 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 3:38 PM EDT

              The last major change to Social Security was in 1983 under the Greenspan Commission. It was failing. Retirement age was raised, some benefits were taxed, and federal employees were added to the definition of social security employees. Both parties pretty much agree that this act saved Social Security from failing. It had a surplus after that which was dipped into by both parties for years afterwards. It passed with Senate 55(R) and 45(D) and in the House with 62.5% (D). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/98th_United_States_Congress

              You include domestic cuts in spending in seniors losing income so I'm not sure how you relate that to supplemental retirement income levels. Besides, "domestic spending" includes military payroll and their college benefits so that's contradictory in itself. Try giving specific bill identification #s with references to the sections that caused this to alleviate confusion in this being political rhetoric or historical provable facts.

              A "society of homeless people" being created and jobs going overseas? I think you're confusing decades there. Foreign trade agreements that legally allowed this activity started with NAFTA and China Free Trade and was about a decade later.

              The fact is, Reagan took over when the economy was in shambles. By the time Clinton got in office it was in a huge economic boon. That was with tax cuts from 1981, changes to social security, and all others you mentioned still in place. By the time Clinton left office, the Y2K bubble was over, .com bubble was burst, housing market crashed, and I had watched job after job go to India and my house go back to the bank.

              • 7 votes
              #3.11 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 4:18 PM EDT

              Allen-968499

              The fact is, Reagan took over when the economy was in shambles. By the time Clinton got in office it was in a huge economic boon. That was with tax cuts from 1981, changes to social security, and all others you mentioned still in place. By the time Clinton left office, the Y2K bubble was over, .com bubble was burst, housing market crashed, and I had watched job after job go to India and my house go back to the bank.

              Man i want some of what your smoking. do you remember the recession of 1990. i do because i was layed off. that was my last layoff untill this past january. so what boom are you talking about? sorry to tell you this but 12 months after he left office we were back in a recession. bil clinton presidency produced 23 million jobs.

              steel mills closed at a record number, we were importing all of our steel from japan, factorys were closing and penson were going broke, do you remember unemployment was at 10% in 1982. those were the facts, because i lived through them.

              You mentioned the last change to SS but in Reagans 1982 budget he cuts SS by 100 billion, He cut SS to dependent children. believe me, i remember getting a letter from SS telling me i was no longer elegable for benifets past my 18th brithday, my x-wife was cut as well.

              we can debate that for ever, but what can't be debated is that he SOLD ARMS TO IRAN!!!!! to fund his secret war in central america after congress cut off his funding. remember Iran Contra!!!!!!! olie North!!!!! the same iran we are having a problem with right now. the same iran that held american hostages for almost 2 years.

              he was lucky that his CIA director Died, or he would have been Imperached.

              • 9 votes
              #3.12 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 4:38 PM EDT

              Don't forget Reagan cut health funding to the point that many mental institutions closed and / or put patients on the street, where many of them, if still alive, remain today.

              • 8 votes
              #3.13 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 5:16 PM EDT

              Allen:

              Yes, the move of jobs overseas accelerated in the 90s, but began in earnest under the Reagan "morning in America" years.

              He also is single-handedly responsible for the size and scope of the homeless situation because his cuts forced the mentally ill (the VAST majority of the homeless population) onto the streets. They had been in state-run institutions, but were basically told "get out freeloaders," because everyone was tired of paying for their cushy lifestyle. Of course, the way they lived was generally less pleasant than most inner city public housing units, but at least they weren't on the street.

              What Carter proved, beyond a shadow of a doubt, is that a moral human being is ill-equiped to be President of the United States. His resistance to cutting closed-door deals to advance his agenda, and his unfortunate habit of speaking truth to the citizens doomed him from the get-go.

              The real fact is, when Reagan took office the US was the country that was owed the most money from other nations. When he left, we owed the most to others. He spent us into oblivion to "beat" the Soviets by launching the largest and most needless arms race in history. Soviet defectors, from the early 70s on, had been telling a very consistant story; You've won. The USSR is a broken ship that is running on inertia and will eventually collapse under it's own weight because the system is faulty.

              But nobody wanted to hear that story, so they would keep on drilling the defectors 24-7 until they wised up and bagan spinning stories about how mighty the Soviet empire was. That went triple for the Reagan administrations.

              And let us not forget it was the Reagan team who created Bin Laden with their pointless meddling in the Middle East...speaking of which...

              One thing Carted did do, that nobody has done since (or before) was broker a lasting peace between two centuries-old enemies in the Middle East, Israel and Egypt. No American understands the region better.

              • 10 votes
              #3.14 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 5:19 PM EDT

              m2c2

              i have noticed allen has not answered my post about the 1990 recession as well as the iran Contra Affair!!!!

              Selling Arms to iran is something republicans want to forget there hero reagan did. i think about all the problems we are having with iran now, and just think hero reagan sold his country out to fund his secret war in central america after CONGRESS CUT THE FUNDING OUT COMPLETELY. he could have sold to Israel, or Iraq but he sold he iran. at that time iran and iraq were at war with each other, we were supporting Iraq and the Russians were supporting iran, he sold Arms to our emeny!!!!!he should have been charged with treason for doing that!!! and impeached.

              • 11 votes
              #3.15 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 5:35 PM EDT

              The first time I ever saw homeless people was when Regan was president.

              People used to say that Regan looked so much more presidential than Carter. Regan looked like he was playing the part of a modern king -- not a president. A president should present himself as one of the people, not some supposedly superior being.

              • 6 votes
              #3.16 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 6:18 PM EDT

              Sorry but clinton had many chances to take out bin laden but failed to do so. Too busy getting h3ad by a fat chick I guess.

              • 2 votes
              #3.17 - Tue Sep 21, 2010 12:02 AM EDT

              I love to watch a liberal spin. -Iran Contra vs. Economics??, Mental patients running homeless in the streets. Drivel- the same old tired lines.

              Union Baby and others who claim to have voted for Carter, both times no less!! Looking forward to retirement soon? or Carter was your first time to vote so you are around mid 50's and are still chatting up all of debunked excuses that even current Democrats have given up on they so outrageous.

              You liberals can't add, can't count, and wouldn't recognize a fact if it were shoved in your null-set

              • 1 vote
              #3.18 - Tue Sep 21, 2010 11:15 AM EDT

              I agree with Chuck and Allen..........Reagan was the best thing that happened to this country (at the time) in a very long time. We were being walked on by terrorists, thugs, and third world counties along with the U.S.S.R. He gave us back our pride by showing the world we wouldn't/shouldn't/couldn't take any crap off anybody. I was in the military during the Carter administration, in fact overseas in Dongducheon, South Korea. Carter came over while I was stationed there. The sediments among us all was how bad he was for our moral, simply because he wouldn't stand up for OUR country. Reagan gave us back our pride, dignity, and feeling of unity against all those that opposed us. He had given us back our "BALLS". Those that didn't care for Reagan, say what you want about the man, he was the best medicine for a country that had been heading down the crapper for a long time.....

              • 2 votes
              #3.19 - Tue Sep 21, 2010 11:22 AM EDT

              Live&LetLive, thank you for a shot of truth. You may remember in the Kennedy administration when unemployment was bad and there was a big chance for recession, that President Kennedy gave tax cuts for all but accented more on the rich. The results speak for itself. Kennedy saved us from a bad time by giving us tax cuts, which put more money into the economy, he gave tax cuts to the rich, along with incentives for their businesses, which gave the rich more money to put back into their businesses, thus increasing the numbers of employees, which, put more money into the economy as well as producing more taxable income and making more profits, which when tax time came, put more money into the government. This is the working formula that President Reagan used and IT PAID OFF. Just to let all those misinformed liberals out there, "Would you give a tax cut or incentive to a homeless guy or to a wealthy business man?" This country's' produced more millionaires in the Reagan era than at any other time. He restructured our military to be a fighting force and gave us the incentive to be proud Americans with "Peace through Power".

              I'm so sick of such misinformed, un-American, crybaby liberals, that just want to bash Republicans, while at the same time, they tear this country to pieces with their political correctness.

              • 1 vote
              #3.20 - Tue Sep 21, 2010 12:38 PM EDT
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              I've always been perplexed how a group of people who called themselves the "moral majority" could have so easily thrown out a Baptist Sunday School teacher for a whoremonger with two living spouses. I voted for President Carter both times and I am proud of it and I always knew he would have a better legacy than most who had been in that office because he was there for the good of this nation instead of increasing the income for the already wealthy. One thing for sure, the big difference between him and Ronnie - I will never ever be a fan of trickle down cause what trickled down on me and my working family was not very nice!

              • 21 votes
              Reply#4 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 1:27 PM EDT
              Comment author avatarPissedOff AmericanNeoconExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

              There is no way you are from Tennessee moron. You must be a tweener - stuck between NYC and Florida because you kept getting blown away by hurricanes. So, please don't disgrace my state with your union BS. Everybody knows that Tennessee doesn't have any unions. Carter and Obama are by far the biggest jokes ever.

              • 3 votes
              #4.1 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 4:18 PM EDT

              All that should "trickle down" is what you earn on their payroll. You're not entitled to their money. Why don't you go "trickle down" the contents of your wallet to the homeless after work if that's how you really feel?

              • 1 vote
              #4.2 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 4:21 PM EDT

              There is no way you are from Tennessee moron.

              PissedOff AmericanNeocon banned, didn't rehab.

              ...

              I think people don't have long enough memories whenever this debate gets dredged up - Buchanan was the worst president.

              • 3 votes
              #4.3 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 8:13 PM EDT

              Yes Tyler, History agrees simply because Buchanan did 0. That though ignores the overall picture as seen through the eys of my generation. I was young, Nixon went down in flames over "dirty tricks" that in hindsight are nothing compared to much that has been glazed over by more recent presidents.

              Carter came into office and nearly right away it was apparent he was a peanut farmer and not a president. His tenure was the epitomy of weakness, every attempt to assert strength flopped.

              Carter was voted out and Reagen came in. As I recall I was the most busy worker in my lifetime during that administration. I watched with amusement as the media tried to discredit that Iran-Contra tie. That soldier Oliver North was THE best covert opp we ever came to hear of. I was proud of this country during Reagens terms.

              George Bush was elected and what followed was more busy work and good times raising my kids.

              Clinton...I really don't even care to relate most of the changes in attitude that came about from that philanderer. Somehow being asked by my children to define what he meant with "it" when even they knew it was sex left a bad taste in my mind about Clinton. I recall wondering what it was that kept Hillary from divorcing that creep. Hindsight again, now we know it was a marriage based on career and not love. Had she dumped wild Bill, she would have slid into nowhere and not become the voice of the US as she negotiates to usurp the right to bear arms with the world. LoL.

              GW Bush, good example of coat-tails. I never could see him as not looking silly and anything more than a president that took his job less than serious. 9/11 brought about change. I felt at first it was time to go crush Osama and everything he supported. I went about reading a great deal of books and information about what motivated Islam and why it seemd to be there was a conflict to begin with between Islam and the world. I frankly think it would behoove all Americans to read and discover what the Koran advocates. It's frightening to say the least when you come to understand the basis for what Islamic fundamentalist's are driven. The war on terror really was a poor choice of labels. Islam has declared war through actions. I don't condem muslims, I see them all around America, I see the good they do and have done in America. I recognize that the real problem is Islamic radicalism and it compares quite closely to the midevil struggle for Islam wherein Islam attempted to conquer all of Europe and were driven back by the "Crusades". Granted, those were tainted times soiled by a desire to eliminate all who denied Christiananity, but the real aim was a crush of Islam and nobody can deny that is what began the "Crusades". I see what is happening now as a 2nd try and nothing short of a world crusade to push Islam back into that dreamers eye of Muhammed and let it fade away in "truce" for another few hundred years

              Obama, that came to be because my generation failed to teach young Americans that who you vote for has consequences. Hope and Change, one can only say now, was this the change you hoped for kids? Obama has a plan, no doubt, but it will fail, he cannot turn this country from a free nation into what he wants. It is inevitable, either control of the house and senate will swing, or revolution will occur should the leftists actually try to push their agenda fully on America. As was one the slogan, you can pry this gun from my dead hand...try to take away my freedom, try to dismantle the constitution, try to ignore what this country was founded on, and don't wonder whay brought about the hailstorm that Americans rain down on government as we throw the filth out one way or another.

              Feel free to bash away liberals, I find it heartening to read world from people that seemingly still can't see reality.

              • 2 votes
              #4.4 - Tue Sep 21, 2010 12:01 PM EDT

              Sure do despise reading my own post and seeing my typos lol, sorry folks, the one standing out most is words in the last line, not world lol

                #4.5 - Tue Sep 21, 2010 12:07 PM EDT
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                "The Carter Center has decided, under my leadership, to fill the vacuums."

                ________________________________________________________________________________________

                With dirt (like Obama). Hard working citizens need to clean house with their vote not their vacuums.

                • 14 votes
                Reply#5 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 1:30 PM EDT

                Just like beauty is in the eyes of the beholder, an opinion of ones self doesn't necessarily hold true for others. 

                • 5 votes
                Reply#6 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 1:33 PM EDT

                Can you say, Legend in your own mind !!!!!!

                • 12 votes
                Reply#7 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 1:36 PM EDT

                What a joke...just like his Presidency. 17% mortgage interest rates, even/odd day gasoline rationing, an American embassy overrun and the people there held hostage for more than a year. Jimmy Carter --a pathetic excuse for a 'leader'.

                • 26 votes
                Reply#8 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 1:38 PM EDT
                Comment author avatarlogdumpExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                And you are another one who cannot see the forest for the trees. I am glad you disagree with all the historians out there who know a lot more about it than you apparently do but keep up the good work we need a good laugh from you people

                • 3 votes
                #8.1 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 3:26 PM EDT

                Speaking of "disagree with all the historians out there who know a lot more about it than you":

                http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_rankings_of_Presidents_of_the_United_States

                Carter was in 32nd place in the 2010 Sienna poll of 238 presidential scholars. Most college professor "scholars" are biased towards Democrats and it's obvious to anyone who ever sat through college & paid attention, but even with that, he's rated lower than Ford, Coolidge, Nixon, Hayes and Reagan is 18th even in their viewpoint and Roosevelt and Lincoln (both Republicans) hold 2nd & 3rd place.

                The very best position he was rated was 19th (same as George W Bush).

                • 2 votes
                #8.2 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 4:54 PM EDT

                "...all the historians out there..."? Name one historian of any substance who, in retrospect, thinks the Carter Presidency was anything other than an unmitigated disaster for this country. At a time when the American people were in desperate need of real leadership, Jimmy Carter told Americans huddled together against the cold and darkness to put on another freakin' sweater!

                • 3 votes
                #8.3 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 5:08 PM EDT

                pretty sure that FDR was a DEMOCRAT

                you must be thinking of Teddy

                • 1 vote
                #8.4 - Tue Sep 21, 2010 3:26 AM EDT

                Allen-968499 "Most college professor "scholars" are biased towards Democrats"

                Did you really say that? The fact that your grammar is horrendous makes it painfully obvious that no one should be paying any attention to your biased opinion.

                • 1 vote
                #8.5 - Tue Sep 21, 2010 10:31 AM EDT

                historybuff is correct FDR was a Democrat and has had candy coated historical coverage. The problem with current entitlement deficits sits right in his lap. It was a ponzi scheme when it was ill-conceived and was absolutely doomed to failure from day one. Voting democrats are good people voting for marxists, progressives, socialists who take advantage of their propensity to vote for ideals that sound good. Great intentions - Bad ideas

                  #8.6 - Tue Sep 21, 2010 11:34 AM EDT

                  Allen: Wikipedia as a credible source? I don't think so. You do know how the information on Wikipedia is compiled, right?

                  Simon: "Voting democrats are good people voting for marxists, progressives, socialists who take advantage of their propensity to vote for ideals that sound good." Really? All democrats are exactly the same, eh? Wonder if you would agree with an overgeneralized statement about republicans?

                    #8.7 - Tue Sep 21, 2010 3:41 PM EDT
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                    When I think of President Carter, I think of Oliver North and all the rotten dealing the republicans did to get the hostages home.

                    I know I haven't the best eyesight if I don't put on my glasses to watch tv, so I could be wrong on this. But a number of years ago there was some sort of media event in Washington DC. One of those correspondents dinners I believe. Fox was interviewing Ollie North live that night, who had attended the dinner.

                    I could have sworn Ollie North was wearing a tuxedo with all of his military metals pinned on his tuxedo. I can't imagine what else it could have been. I was flabbergasted. Truly embarrassed.

                    President Carter - a good man who didn't want to go the route the Republicans did under Reagan Ronald - where the slogan was - There's enough for everybody. There's enough for you, there's enough for me mentality - all on credit.

                    President Carter was the responsible one. The mature one. The honest one. The intelligent one. Something this country bores of very easily.

                    Former President Carter got on plane the day of the inaugeration and flew to I believe Weisbaden, Germany, to meet every single hostage. He is a wonderful wonderful man. Too bad the Democrats didn't support him in 1980 instead of Ted Kennedy. It hurt him tremendously. You know, the purity thing.

                    Someone in my office was telling me the other day about all the energy policies that went by the wayside once Reagan got into office.

                    "America did not invent human rights. In a very real sense human rights invented America." Jimmy Carter

                    • 19 votes
                    Reply#9 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 1:39 PM EDT

                    Pat in Boston,

                    I may be misreading your post......the Iran hostage crisis happened during Carter's presidency and they were released the day after Reagan became president......so my point is that you said he got on a plane the day of the inaugerations and flew to meet every single hostage. My way of thinking that is not possible. But correct me if I am wrong or if I misunderstood you. Thanks

                    • 9 votes
                    #9.1 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 1:48 PM EDT

                    President Carter got on a plane the day of Ronald Reagan's inauguration. Or the next day. Not sure which.

                    • 5 votes
                    #9.2 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 1:51 PM EDT

                    Pat I believe that President Reagan very generously gave the use of Air Force One to former President Carter on the day of his inauguration so that the Iran hostages could be welcomed out of captivity properly. Remember that was back when even folks with opposing views could act with some modicum of decorum between themselves.

                    • 8 votes
                    #9.3 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 3:12 PM EDT

                    Ollie North...wasn't he that "crazy guy who thought Bin Laden was out to get us" during those trials??? Good thing we had people to crucify him on live television and tell him he was wrong and we were safe.

                    • 1 vote
                    #9.4 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 4:59 PM EDT

                    Oliver North....wasn't he the DRUG runner and GUN TRADER for Regan/Bush administration. Yes sold guns to South Americans for COCAINE... UUUuuugggggggghhh! I hate that crook. He is part of the cause of the drug epidemic in this country!! What is wrong with you people. Good people are down trodden by you and criminals are lifted up!!! You right wingers are crazy!!

                    • 3 votes
                    #9.5 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 5:10 PM EDT

                    The hostage deal was brokered under Carter administration(Algiers Accords)with the results being those hostages being released when Reagan took office. The Algiers Accords called for Iran's immediate freeing of the hostages, the unfreezing of Iranian assets and immunity from lawsuits Iran might have faced in America, and a pledge by the United States that "it is and from now on will be the policy of the United States not to intervene, directly or indirectly, politically or militarily, in Iran's internal affairs." These "accords" were brokered by Carter's deputy of state Warren Christopher.

                    • 2 votes
                    #9.6 - Tue Sep 21, 2010 10:09 AM EDT
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                    Our poorest President still trying to be more than he ever was or could be! Such arrogance is beyond belief for such a righteous man.

                    • 12 votes
                    Reply#10 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 1:42 PM EDT

                    Polk. Bucahanan. Hayes. Grant. Garfield. Wilson. Johnson. Nixon.

                    Carter wasn't that great, but wasn't the worse by any long stretch of the imagination.

                    • 7 votes
                    #10.1 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 2:11 PM EDT

                    Again we have to swallow what Bush did to believe Carter was any where close to the bottom he still has to jump ove Bush and Nixon to get down there.

                    Latest cspan poll has Carter at 25 Bush at 36 and thats from 65 historians who look at things other than the ecalation in oil prices and the accompanying effects

                    • 2 votes
                    #10.2 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 3:40 PM EDT

                    Careful, E.D.-

                    Don't waste your credibility splitting hairs about whether or not Jimmy Carter is the worst U.S. President. President Obama spent a frightening amount of political capital to get a health care reform package passed...and the majority of the public, justifiably, remains unconvinced.

                    Pick your fights carefully, E.D.-

                    Trust me...just this once. Jimmy Carter isn't where you want to plant your flag.

                    I was only a boy during the Johnson and Nixon Administrations, but, in a spirit of bi-partisanship, I'd still be hesitant to call either one worse than Carter...

                    And...so should you.

                    Unless...you were there, as I was.

                    • 4 votes
                    #10.3 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 3:48 PM EDT

                    Trust me, I'm not giving him a pass. The Iranian thing alone guarantees he'll never get high marks from me - but I'm not the sort that'll hang any of the recent terribles on the bottom rung.

                    My personal all-time low is James Buchanan because his apathy and self-aggrandizing attitude directly led to the outbreak of the Civil War. Until someone else comes along and proves to be so ineffective a leader as to cause the lot of us to point guns at one another, nobody'll take the cake in my eyes.

                    Besides, the matter of which President was the worst strikes me as largely a non-issue: that there are this many comments on the article and emotions running so high over it is surreal.

                    • 1 vote
                    #10.4 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 4:09 PM EDT

                    Latest cspan poll has Carter at 25 Bush at 36

                    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_rankings_of_Presidents_of_the_United_States

                    That's about as good as he's ever been ranked too. That's the poll where Reagan got 10th and Bush Sr got 18th. I wouldn't be bragging about that. Even Obama with polls dropping faster than Bush Jr is ranked double digits ahead of Carter.

                    Exodite Dragon

                    Until someone else comes along and proves to be so ineffective a leader as to cause the lot of us to point guns at one another, nobody'll take the cake in my eyes.

                    Obama needs to recognize this too with all of his name calling, finger pointing, and partisan politics in the name of "well the previous administration did X" as his reasoning. He doesn't seem to have grasped the concept that he's in charge now and the election is over. I'd have to put Obama in next to last place myself for talent in unifying the nation. I think we agree on last place in that category.

                    • 1 vote
                    #10.5 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 5:06 PM EDT

                    @Allen-968499: I'm sorry, we don't have legislatures seriously threatening secession (I'm not counting Perry since the man's a tool anyway, even if I am voting for him) and I don't see National Guard units swearing oaths of allegience to their home states just yet.

                      #10.6 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 5:16 PM EDT

                      allen have you ever figured out why the schools dont let students use wikipedia? you cant trust what is on there its wrong a lot of the time

                      • 1 vote
                      #10.7 - Tue Sep 21, 2010 2:39 AM EDT
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                      Interesting. I remember Carter as president. He seemed totally disconnected with reality. He hasn't changed a bit.

                      • 17 votes
                      Reply#11 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 1:43 PM EDT

                      His boat paddle was connected with that rabbit head though.

                        #11.1 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 5:11 PM EDT

                        A more appropriate comment from someone calling himself Gyrogearloose (and yes I know the Barks origin of the name) I can't imagine.

                          #11.2 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 5:48 PM EDT
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                          Except for one glaringly noticeable exception, who shall remain nameless, all of the former presidents have been more effective world leaders after they have left the White House. While Carter's contributions to world peace are inescapable, his accomplishments would gain greater credibility if he were not blowing his own horn. That's his whole problem. The praise of the praiseworthy is to be treasured, but self-praise is worthless.

                          • 4 votes
                          Reply#12 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 1:45 PM EDT

                          In every job interview bet you did.

                            #12.1 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 3:41 PM EDT

                            Couldn't agree more. I like Mr. Carter. I just don't like some of his navel gazing. I'd say though his accomplishments will never gain much credibility as those that hate him are moved to shout much more loudly than those who appreciate him.... as is the custom.

                            • 2 votes
                            #12.2 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 6:50 PM EDT

                            Bionic - What world peace? Acting as an ambassador may be nobel or may be vain, but certainly doesn't support inescapable. His praised foreign policy prowess as President, consists of few successes most notably Egypt, the others have proven to have been failures; along with abject failures - Iran.

                              #12.3 - Tue Sep 21, 2010 11:43 AM EDT
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                              Jimmy Carter has forgotten one of the most important lessons he was taught when he was a military officer: when someone screws up and you're the one in charge, you get the blame. Just as he blamed the Jews for his losing the 1980 election (for Israel not kowtowing back then), he now blames a dead man who can no longer defend himself for the failure of his health care plan.

                              As a small aside, Mr. Carter invoked the term "Al Chet" ("for the sins we have sinned") from the Yom Kippur service in order to appease Jewish voters into voting for his son for state senator during the July Georgia primaries. Once his son won the Democratic nomination, Mr. Carter went back to blaming the Jews for everything. He is a politician, which means he will lie and say whatever to further his agenda, not caring about those upon whose feet he steps along the way.

                              • 13 votes
                              Reply#13 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 1:51 PM EDT

                              O'Dumbo needs to be standing away from them on the other side .... Have the 2 most embarrassing presidents in U.S. History stand apart from the others

                              • 7 votes
                              Reply#14 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 1:51 PM EDT

                              Obviously you're talking about the guy in the middle

                              • 2 votes
                              #14.1 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 3:03 PM EDT
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                              I was young at the time he was President but I can remember my parents saying he is terrible. They both were Democrats at the time but just thought Carter was the worst ever.

                              My father still gets angry when he thinks of Carter......

                              • 14 votes
                              Reply#15 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 1:52 PM EDT

                              Most people do who think when you become president you can solve all the worlds problems in four years.

                              • 3 votes
                              #15.1 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 3:44 PM EDT
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                              Carter likely is Psychotic

                              • 8 votes
                              Reply#16 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 1:53 PM EDT
                              Comment author avatarJeff-1541632Restored

                              IntheMiddle, TX

                              if carter was soo terrible then why is he the only president in 40 years to bring peace to the middle east, remember Israel and Egypt signed a Peace agreement that has lasted 30 years. no other president can clam that. as bad as Nixon was he got the Russians and Chinese to persuade North Vietnam to the table to get the veitman war over.

                              at no other time in our history has a president worked so hard for peace. domectic policy Jimmy carter was no good at all, but forgen policy, he was one of the best.

                              worse presidents ever, Johnson, reagan, Bush 43, Hoover.

                              best president ever, Eisenhower, Truman, Roosevelt(teddy) Nixon. Yes Nixon. read our history books, this guy was great, he just did not trust anybody.

                              • 4 votes
                              #16.1 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 3:09 PM EDT

                              Making a blanket statement that Carter brought 'peace to the Middle East' simply because of the cessation of hostilities between Israel and Egypt is really reaching there, buddy.

                              And about Nixon? I'm sorry, OSHA doesn't trump Watergate. Try again.

                              • 2 votes
                              #16.2 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 5:19 PM EDT

                              I think it's arrogant to claim credit for a US politician in 2 other leaders signing a mutual peace agreement. Camp David was just the offered common ground for them to meet. Sadat and Begin shared the peace prize that year, not Carter.

                              Part of the agreement was for Egypt to supply Israel with crude oil. Israel had to relinquish the only oil wells they owned to Egypt in Sinai.

                              A 2006 poll of 1,000 Egyptians showed 92% of the public viewed Israel as an enemy nation.

                              It's a powder keg waiting to explode. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camp_David_Accords

                                #16.3 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 5:23 PM EDT

                                Nixon was a paranoid megalomaniac!!

                                He was revoted in promising to end the Vietnam War - which he did except the outcome didn't turn out as most folks thought it would?!

                                Afraid Iraq & Afghanistan will go down the same road . . . regardless of how long we stay.

                                • 1 vote
                                #16.4 - Tue Sep 21, 2010 4:01 AM EDT
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                                Neocon and pro-Israel Commentary was full of praise for Jimmy Carter's post-presidential humanitarian work -- until he criticized Israeli treatment of the Palestinians. Then, suddenly, the magazine condemned Carter as the worst ex-president in history.

                                It's like conservative National Review's assessment of Joe Lieberman. The magazine endorsed and praised Lieberman to the skies -- until Al Gore selected him as vice presidential candidate in 2000. Then, suddenly, it condemned Lieberman as one of the worst senators in history.

                                To right-wing zealots, either you agree with them on every single issue or you are an enemy of the republic.

                                • 9 votes
                                Reply#17 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 1:53 PM EDT

                                righ-wing zealots & Neocons are words you choose to use when talking about how the other side talks about people who disagree with them? Ironic or just spiteful?

                                Being a conservative with my own opinions and knowing many others from the left & right in real life, I can honestly say you're view of what others think is quite wrong and inflammatory.

                                • 2 votes
                                #17.1 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 5:28 PM EDT
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                                Superior to what? Mr. Peanut?

                                Sorry, A president that can't get along with his Own Party, has double Digit Inflation during his "watch," and then lets a 4th rate nation violate the Internationally Recognized Sovereignty of an Embassy / Consulate Grounds without doing anything but micromanage a screwed up, half-assed rescue attempt considers himself an effective president?

                                He de-regulated the Airline Industry and started the process that gave us the wonderful traveling experience that we have today.

                                He deregulated the Railroads and trucking industries so that they could compete in the cut-throat manner that they do. Now 4 of the 7 major Railroads and 5 of the 9 major trucking companies are in bankruptcy.

                                He even signed the "Depository Institutions Deregulation and Monetary Control Bill" (passed by a mainly Democratic Congress) that was the beginning of the Banking System Deregulation that we have all come to know and love.

                                Have they passed the Medical Marijuana Bill in Georgia? They must have because he is really smoking some "Good S**t" as George Carlin would say!

                                Let's hope we get no more "Highly Effective Presidents" like him again!

                                • 19 votes
                                Reply#18 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 1:54 PM EDT
                                Comment author avatarlogdumpRestored

                                Oh good how is anyone going to take a name caller serious. That is so grade school.

                                • 2 votes
                                #18.1 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 3:46 PM EDT

                                And how could you overlook the fact that Carter broke up the big evil monopoly, AT&T? And that the phones haven't worked right since!

                                • 2 votes
                                #18.2 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 4:31 PM EDT

                                logdump

                                Oh good how is anyone going to take a name caller serious. That is so grade school.

                                And that remark comes from you who, regularly insults people, call them names, and insults their intelligence, education, and family background solely because they disagree with your Rose Colored View of the world???

                                Did Mr. Carter sign into law the above mentioned bills?

                                Was both the House and Senate Controlled by Democrats when Congress passed these bills that we have all come to know and love?

                                Did Mr. Carter preside over an administration that allowed a 4th rate nation to violate the Internationally Recognized Sovereignty of the US Embassy Grounds without doing anything except micromanage a screwed up, half-assed rescue attempt (and that was only the half used for thinking)?

                                Did Mr. Carter allow 52 American Citizens to be held captive by a rouge theocracy for 444 days?

                                What is your answer? I'm Listening.

                                • 4 votes
                                #18.3 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 4:34 PM EDT

                                I didn't see any name calling. I see it consistantly from log though. It's sort of like "I know you are but what am I" comebacks or diversionary tactics gone horribly wrong.

                                  #18.4 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 5:32 PM EDT

                                  It's funny how cons are always complaining how the weak-hearted liberals are always negotiating with terrorists... yet when it came to the Iranian hostage conflict, you criticize Carter for NOT negotiating with terrorists.

                                  I suppose he could have agreed to sell them arms, like Reagan did (see Iran-Contra). There's a real patriot for you.

                                  • 4 votes
                                  #18.5 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 5:44 PM EDT

                                  AnotherJacob

                                  I said NOTHING about negotiating with terrorist. My concept is to Kill the bastards; all of them. In fact, I would go so far as to invoke the immortal instructions of Arnaud Amalric from the battle of Beziers in 1209. He was a Cistercian Monk and the Pope's Legate during the Albigensian Crusade. He penned the Immortal words:

                                  Caedite eos. Novit enim Dominus qui sunt eius.

                                  it translates to:

                                  Kill them all. For the Lord knoweth them that are His.

                                  As far as Terrorist are concerned, IMO, they deserve no better and no quarter. The faster we remove them from the gene pool, the faster the world will be a be a better place, et. al.

                                    #18.6 - Tue Sep 21, 2010 7:29 AM EDT
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                                    It is and has been a sesaw battle between Jimmy and Barack.

                                    After this interview and Barack's performance today at the "town hall meeting", I rate them even.

                                    • 13 votes
                                    Reply#19 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 1:54 PM EDT
                                    Comment author avatarlogdumpExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                                    And I am sure that will sway the historians who know better than you. It will be ten years or more before they can even rate Obama and I found one poll where he was 15 out of 43. you probably do not like him because he is not a corporatist lap dog.

                                    • 3 votes
                                    #19.1 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 3:49 PM EDT

                                    No, he's a union lap dog. A dog is still a dog.

                                    • 3 votes
                                    #19.2 - Tue Sep 21, 2010 9:42 AM EDT
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                                    Carter was no leader but he did no real harm (which is more than we can say for a few others), and he was way ahead of most people (even some to this day) on energy matters.

                                    But he should know when to shut up, for his own good.

                                    • 6 votes
                                    Reply#20 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 1:55 PM EDT

                                    You could see signs of this kind of behavior starting with the "I lusted in my heart" comment.

                                    Then the helicopter crash.

                                    Then down hill.

                                    • 4 votes
                                    #20.1 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 2:02 PM EDT

                                    You forgot when, while in a fishing trip, he killed a rabbit with an oar because he said it "attacked him". Good times, good times

                                    • 6 votes
                                    #20.2 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 2:51 PM EDT

                                    Read it again he said probably which is an answer that is open for debate....

                                      #20.3 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 3:50 PM EDT
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                                      He is still pushing almost the same policies as OBAMA, and will continue to be a one of the worst presidents in the last century, right up there with FDR and Wilson. They all pushed policies and economics that took years for other presidents to fix. People complain about GW Bush, but FDR actually intererned people because of their race, and many economists think that his policies, just like Obama's, actually prolonged the Great Depression.

                                      How can anyone proclaim that they are for freedom, and the American way, and then pass socialist programs, like healthcare, that puts our children into economic slavery for the next 10 generations?

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                                      Reply#21 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 1:56 PM EDT

                                      Rwagan ended the Cold War yet he is the worst President ? Only a fool would think such a statement.

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                                      Reply#22 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 1:56 PM EDT

                                      Reagan had nothing to do with the ending of the cold war except he happened to be sitting in the WH at the time. The Soviet Union ran out of money and finally elected a leader who wanted to walk away from the stupidity. Reagan was so inept Margaret Thatcher had to convince the man he could talk to Gorby. At their first meeting Reagan ran off at the mouth so fast Gorby had to calm him down so he could speak.

                                      and then pass socialist programs, like healthcare, that puts our children into economic slavery for the next 10 generations?

                                      FYI if it were as you mistakenly believe the Beck BS a socialist program the government would own all the health care facilities which they will not so your rant is meaningless

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                                      #22.1 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 3:57 PM EDT

                                      I think they ran out of money because Regean won the arms race, and broke their inept economy. It laid down the foundation for decades of growth becasue the cold war was over and defnse expenditures plummeted.

                                        #22.2 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 5:20 PM EDT

                                        Even the Russians admit they fell for Reagan's tactics on the space race. The whole world was convinced we could read a newspaper from orbit and were about to put laser platforms up there. They went broke trying to keep up with something we didn't have.

                                        Irony that you bring up the meetings with Gorbachev though. Carter gets quoted as thinking he's the best and Reagan gets quoted as being humble, gracious, and tactful with "Mr. Gorbachev deserves most of the credit, as the leader of this country." when addressing them after the cold war was over and Eastern Europe was liberated.

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                                        #22.3 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 5:42 PM EDT

                                        It just happened that communism in the USSR collapsed at the same time that Regan was president. He had nothing to do with it. Their failures is what caused it

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                                        #22.4 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 6:56 PM EDT

                                        You're right Martha. Reagan had absolutely nothing to do w/ it. Though, I'm sure if Regan had a (D) next to his name, then he would have had everything to do w/ it. Wake up. He was focused on USSR like a laser. The space race was ALL about forcing USSR into thinking we had the capacity to develop something we had no intentions of developing. It was brilliant. You can argue whether Reagan should have ran up the huge deficits but you cannot argue that he played a central role in taking down the former Soviet Union. Though, you probably don't have the latter w/out the former.

                                          #22.5 - Tue Sep 21, 2010 10:41 AM EDT

                                          The collapse of the Soviet Union was inevitable because of the inherent flaws in their system. Unlike the Chinese who are better at adapting, the Soviets were tied to a failed philosophy that they followed like a religion. The intelligence community knew this and this collapse was predicted publicly.

                                          Reagan actually had NOTHING to do with it. He wasn't intelligent enough to understand what was going on.

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                                          #22.6 - Tue Sep 21, 2010 11:35 AM EDT

                                          JS I don't know what you are smoking but you need to sign up for a brain transplant. I am sure your half breed Muslim president has a program paid for by your neighbors. Ronald Reagan was the greatest president who ever served this great country that has turned into a slim pit for parasites that want everything government funded and paid for by their neighbors.

                                          With post like this pleas consider changing the screen name to BS

                                            #22.7 - Tue Sep 21, 2010 12:08 PM EDT
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                                            I remember Billy (Billy Beer), but the name "Jimmy" doesn't come to mind? What was he, a singer?

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                                            Reply#23 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 1:57 PM EDT

                                            Surely you remember Jimmy.

                                            He is the strategist who ended the Iran hostage crisis.

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                                            #23.1 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 2:19 PM EDT

                                            yes jimmy you were the greatest, .....now come take your medicine and lay down dear.

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                                            #23.2 - Tue Sep 21, 2010 9:28 AM EDT

                                            Poor Jimmy. It appears that he must have finally reached the latter stages of senility.

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                                            #23.3 - Tue Sep 21, 2010 11:38 AM EDT

                                            Be kind to the peanut vendor I mean look how many peanut related jobs he saved and how many Panamanians are working because he gave them the canal back

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                                            #23.4 - Tue Sep 21, 2010 3:02 PM EDT
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                                            Comment author avatarAll That IsExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                                            Bush still holds the title for the worst president ever. We're still feeling his huge mistakes, conscience and otherwise. He should be in jail.

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                                            Reply#24 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 1:57 PM EDT

                                            All That Is:

                                            Your way of thinking is being laughed at by the majority of Americans, some of who recently decided to educate themselves.

                                            Who creates the policies, sets the agenda & approves of the spending? CONGRESS

                                            Who's controlled Congress for nearly 4 years now? DEMOCRATS

                                            Who controlled Congress the majority of Clinton's presidency & formulated the 'Balanced Budget Act' with Clinton even threatening veto? REPUBLICANS

                                            Oh ~ and what's this? It's the Democrats, in their own words, begging for action against Saddam over WMDs ... even BEFORE Bush was in office: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5p-qIq32m8

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                                            #24.1 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 2:01 PM EDT

                                            Starky,

                                            There is just no way that a Bush hater can see things any differently than they do. Sad but true. I have always thought that Obama was elected because the majority of the blacks who voted for him did so because he is part black and the rest voted for him because he was not Bush....even if Bush had been a democrat and Obama a republican.....Obama will still have been elected.....just my opinion folks...not facts....just an opinion.

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                                            #24.2 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 2:15 PM EDT

                                            Next to Clinton? .......perjurer in chief

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                                            #24.3 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 3:37 PM EDT

                                            ...just my opinion folks...not facts....just an opinion.

                                            And about as worthless as ysterdays newspaper.

                                              #24.4 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 3:59 PM EDT

                                              The long gas lines never happened during President Carter's term in office. They did, in fact happen in 1973/74 during the NIXON administration. You want to criticize a good and decent man?? Please do so using real facts.

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                                              #24.5 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 4:17 PM EDT

                                              wood, check again. I got my driver's license in 1979, and my first job was to get up at the crack of dawn to sit in the gas line to fill the family car. More times than not, there was no gas left by the time I got there. Please don't tell me that "long gas lines never happened during President Carter's term in office."

                                                #24.6 - Tue Sep 21, 2010 10:25 AM EDT

                                                In reply to Eric Tramberg. There were two, count them, two oil crises. The first in 73-74 when Nixon was was president. The second started in 1979 and led to a six year decrease in oil prices.

                                                Please check your facts.

                                                  #24.7 - Tue Sep 21, 2010 11:43 AM EDT
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                                                  Comment author avatarPat, Boston, MAExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                                                  Richard Cohen, July 2008

                                                  “Those of you with keen memories may recall that the energy crisis is not new. In 1977, Jimmy Carter called it the "moral equivalent of war." In the sort of speech a politician rarely delivers, he told a not particularly grateful nation that his energy program was going to hurt, but "a policy which does not ask for changes or sacrifices would not be an effective policy." The core of his initiative was conservation. Carter had earlier asked us to lower the thermostat and wear a sweater. He wore one himself.

                                                  Ronald Reagan, who followed Carter to the White House, wore only a smile. For him, there was no energy crisis. Whereas Carter had insisted only the government could manage the energy crisis, Reagan in his first inaugural demanded that government get out of the way. Speaking of general economic conditions at the time, he said, "Government is not the solution to our problem." He went on to call for America to return to greatness, to "reawaken this industrial giant," and all sorts of swell things would happen. It was wonderful stuff.

                                                  To contrast the two speeches is like comparing the screeching of a cat to the miracles of Mozart. Yet today, Carter's speech reads as prescient. Most of his dire predictions - "It is a problem we will not solve in the next few years, and it is likely to get progressively worse through the rest of this century" - have generally come true, although not quite as soon or calamitously as he warned. The pity of it all is that in American politics, BEING RIGHT IS BESIDE THE POINT.

                                                  It is not my intention to pummel the late Mr. Reagan for what he did or did not do back in the 1980s. It is my intention, though, to suggest that Reaganism - to which all Republicans now swear allegiance - has outlived its very short usefulness and ought to be junked. This is not to say that government is the answer to all our ills. It is only to note that if you think the answer is private enterprise, then push your car to the nearest gas station and see what happens.

                                                  The worst part of Reaganism was its political success. It left behind a coterie of panting acolytes who learned from Reagan himself that optimism, cheerfulness, an embrace of magical thinking and the avoidance of the painful truth was the formula for victory at the polls. For a time, it worked - the cost of gas went down - and Carter, that scold in the silly sweater, was banished. As they say in New Orleans, Laissez les bons temps rouler! (Let the good times roll!) Upbeat? You bet. But not a business plan.

                                                  In "The Age of Reagan," Princeton historian Sean Wilentz posits that Reagan was the transformative President of our times. I don't know about that. But I do know that in the recent primary debates, Republican after Republican invoked Reagan the way Democrats once did Roosevelt and they vowed, knock on wood, to be a similar kind of President. If they meant what they said, that would mean no energy plan worth its name and, worse, chirpy assurances to the American people that all would be well.

                                                  This is the doleful legacy of Reaganism. We have become a nation that believes that you can get something for nothing. We thought that the energy crisis would be solved ... somehow - and no one would have to suffer. We still believe in the magical qualities of America, that something about us makes us better. Yet we have a chaotic and mediocre education system that desperately needs more money and higher standards, but we think -don't we? - that somehow we will maintain our lifestyle anyway. Hey, is this America or what?

                                                  Somewhere in his peripatetic travels, the much-maligned Jimmy Carter - an artless politician, to be sure - must scratch his head at the reverence still accorded Ronald Reagan. The way things are going, the Gipper's visage will be added to Mount Rushmore. Not that anyone will notice. It'll be too expensive to drive there.”

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                                                  Reply#25 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 2:00 PM EDT

                                                  The fall of the Berlin Wall was a great achievement; it was the beginning of the end for the USSR. Reagan knew this. His firing of the air traffic controllers was another--but scary--terrific deed of his. I don't believe there is a "greatest" president, as world and national conditions dictate what any one individual may do. There are great Americans but none greater than the people he represents.

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                                                  #25.1 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 2:18 PM EDT
                                                  Comment author avatarjust judyExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                                                  The fall of the Berlin Wall should not be attributed to Reagan.

                                                  The fall of America can. Deregulation!!!!

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                                                  #25.2 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 2:49 PM EDT

                                                  Nyet, Judy. Liberals live among great deeds, decrying the actions that brought them and others freedom, snapping and growling in a sea of liberty, like anarchistic sharks.

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                                                  #25.3 - Mon Sep 20, 2010 3:54 PM EDT
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