From msnbc.com's Carrie Dann:
Three days after she astounded political observers by upsetting a longtime Republican lawmaker in Delaware's Senate primary, Christine O'Donnell made her national debut to the conservative base Friday, delivering anti-"elitism" zingers and channeling backer Sarah Palin in a rousingly-received address to a conservative gathering in Washington D.C.
O'Donnell, who has full-throatedly endorsed the Tea Party and been flatly declared unelectable by establishment Republicans, told attendees at the Family Research Council's Values Voters Summit that Washington insiders have marginalized the conservative political movement because "they don't get us."
"They call us wacky. They call us wingnuts," she said.
"We call us we the people," she added to thundrous applause.
The Tea Party movement's simple message to big government, O'Donnell said: "You are not the boss of me."
O'Donnell's address, punctuated by frequenct dinging of the "DC cocktail crowd," the "ruling class," and the "green police," drew a sharp contrast between an activist "us" and an establishment "them" -- the same sentiment that endeared her most prominent endorser - Sarah Palin - to many Republicans. "There are more of us than there are of them," she declared.
Attendees at the gathering of social conservatives received O'Donnell with a standing ovation as members of the press hurried to the filing area in time to hear her address. She won hearty applause for one-liners like this one skewering the political left: "They'll buy your teenaged daughter an abortion, but they wont let her buy a sugary soda in her school's vending machine."
Unlike some of the day's previous Republican speakers, O'Donnell has blurred no lines about her affiliation with the Tea Party. On Friday, she noted that the movement can seem disorganized and strident. "We're loud, we're rowdy, [and] we're passionate," she said, adding that while it "isn't tame ... boy, it sure is good."
The Delaware Republican's chances of winning the general election the same state that sent Joe Biden to Capitol Hill are considered very low in light of her conservative views and a torrent of opposition research detailing controversial statements she has made in the past. But her debut today likely ensures that - even six weeks from now - we'll be far from seeing the last of her.


Mmm. Divisive politics. 'Us' vs. 'Them' mentality. Way to be a unifier! Way to demonize more than half of the American population because they don't agree with you on all fronts!
Ahhhhhhh Christ almighty. Oh Captain, my Captain...
No there aren't! But Christine can't comprehend basic math however can smile and look cute on stage and say all the right things to get senior white citizens to the polls to vote. By the way those seniors aren't the majority either.
The majority is US!....GO US!.......ooops! I'm so confused!
Hate to break it to Miss Christine but she is whacky, she a wing-nut--her views are so restrictive of others rights that it would be going back to the Dark Ages. Just like Sarah Palin, smile, blink the eyes and throw red meat. But can they govern or write legislation? Can they think beyond a narrow view of the world. They don't want anyone telling them their child shouldn't drink a sugar-loaded soda but they want to tell teenage girls and women, they cannot have an abortion because they said so.
One thing for certain, I am tired of hearing politicians like O'Donnell, Angle, Palin, DeMint, McConnell throw around the real Americans, we're the best and only We the People, I want my country back, stand by the Constitution when they would trample it to bits.
We're gonna need a sh!t load more lipstick for all these pigs..
*wink wink* you betcha
You people are missing the point. "Us" versus "them" was her way of saying that the current "ruling class" has ignored the people for too long. Whether Democrat or Republican. You want real change in our system, the TEA PARTY is the "little people/citizen" reclaiming the government. That's what you wanted when you voted for Obama and the Democrats last time, wasn't it. It just so happens they turned out to be another form of the "ruling elite." Dismissing the people they govern.
Don't forget yours feisty. Let the beat down begin.
Ragster
I'd be all for the Tea Party if they would only drop the hate part of their 'vision for America'
Yes, we do need a viable third party to keep the elite on their toes, but this just isn't quite there enough.
Tell your TP friends to drop the hate against the rights of other American Citizens and you'll really have something!
Exodite Dragon "Mmm. Divisive politics. 'Us' vs. 'Them' mentality. Way to be a unifier! Way to demonize more than half of the American population because they don't agree with you on all fronts!"
Why are you talking about Obama?
I thought the article was about O'Donnell.
Oh soooo predicable... can't argue the FACTS... best then to DISTRACT!
I'm beginning to wonder if the game of TWISTER wasn't invented by a right wing nut!
And btw - who the hell is 1/2 of the American population other than the BS Rasmussen and other right winger polls?
Hey Joe, the left only tries to slap the hate logo on the tea party as a way to discredit them and their movement. Thats the new liberal way anyone who disagres is a bigot. Its getting really old and stupid and never had any basis in truth.
INFORMED, you've said it all-accurately and concisely. Jody and Feisty ooze leftwing typical arrogant certainty of correctness from EVERY pore! So (yawn) predictable.
Ummm... NEWSFLASH... we don't have to 'label' anyone... WE let the party of insanity's own words speak for themselves... after all the inmates are running the asylum these days...
I realize America has been DUMBED down (thanks once again for the right wing nitwits anti-education stance... but these whack jobs... speak for the nutjobs...
Nuff said...
"...drew a sharp contrast between an activist "us" and an establishment "them" -- the same sentiment that endeared her most prominent endorser - Sarah Palin - to many Republicans. "There are more of us than there are of them," she declared"
Learn to read - O'Donnell was referring to the establishment - so if "us" the people against "them" the establishment is divisive politics then you either are part of the establishment or you don't understand the Constitution.
It is so refreshing to see that FR once again has opened up the 'troll' bridge... FREE of charge of course!
Things like censorship & arbitrary collapsing be damned as long as we get the crazies on board... Too effin funny!
Can I GET A WITNESS???
Those who want to believe will believe. How sad they do not bother to look beneath the surface; how sad they believe what they want because it is words from conservatives; therefore, the words must be true. The Tea Party is bank rolled by big business, they're no more grass roots than any other. The Koch brothers fund Americans for Progress which was a huge part of the so-called grass roots Tea Party, busing protestors to rallies. Freedom Works is another that bank rolled the TP. The Values Voters is nothing but a sham to raise big donar dollars for various organizations to spend on their next anti-somthing campaign. Today, it is US vs Them, tomorrow or the next day it is US vs Muslim, US vs pro-choice, US vs immigrants, US vs gays, US vs whatever is the topic of the year. These people are nothing but crooks wrapping themselves in the flag, declaring themselves patriots while planning their next attack on someone else's freedoms. That may sound harsh but anyone spending a few minutes on a computer can find out the truth.
Did the Values Voters talk about the rise in poverty in America, did they talk about how many children live in poverty in the US? Did they talk about solving hunger? Did they talk about ways to create jobs? Did they talk about how to improve education? No, O'Donnell talked about the government regulating light bulbs and toilets, and how dare the Government urge kids not to drink so much soda pop. Today, Mike Huckabee said people with pre-existing conditions don't deserve health insurance and compared them to a wrecked car and a burned down house. Some Values this group has. They only value what they have and care nothing about anyone else.
Jody: Don't forget, Huckabee is a Southern Baptist Preacher! I don't care if you're a Christian or not, preachers are supposed to have a sense of Christian ethics. He seems to forget his mentor's words, "Feed my Sheep, etc." time and time again. I am reminded of another piece of scripture that defines that hypocrite, namely, "It is more difficult for a camel to pass through an eye of a needle than it is for a rich man to enter the Kingdom of Heaven!" That ought to be engraved on the Huckster's tomb stone! He is a disgrace to his professed Christian beliefs. If people are dumb enough to listen to him tell them how to vote, then they will reap what they sow.
More than half of America are against them? Let's get really. If the majority of America were against them the Democratic party and MSNBC wouldn't be devoting so much time to denigrating and demonizing the Tea Party.
the so called tea party is just another front for the evangelicals who have been laying low, you'll start seeing more and more of this religion fused politics from them. and in typical rovian style....ultimately they are the very thing they are railing against. they've made a fine art of the pot calling the kettle black and are once again duped by the powers that really control things.
It’s not the left that is slapping a hate logo on them. It’s the constant “Take back our country” “We the people” comments. Take back the country from the majority of voters that elected our President? Why is it that “We the people” only seems to mean to them people who think exactly like they do? Why does there seem to be no room for any kind of discourse or compromise? “We the people” have differing ideas of how things should be done and we need to talk about them and try to come up with the best and most fair solutions to the issues.
Well, I'm more or less a "senior white citizen", and I say she's a kook of the worst kind. There is no "them", there's only "us" and her divisiveness is going to hang her. She may not think so, but we're smarter than that. Sorry, Christine, there is no Santa Claus in politics.
What I get out of most of these comments is that most of the Libs still don't get it. There is a bottom to top revolution going on in this country. I am pretty conservative on a lot of issues (like fiscal issues) and liberal on others (like most social issues). BO has done way more than enough for me not to vote for him for any office anywhere. Neither am I big fan of SP. But I do know that what I am seeing right now is the Liberals in arrogant denial. The villagers are in the castle folks and they are not going to stop until they gut it! Deride and laugh at the Tea Party movement all you like and you will get thumped for your arrogance. Tuesday was proof enough of that within the Republican establishment. The Democrats steamrollered a health care bill through congress that the polls showed Americans did not want and told Americans that everything would be alright because they know best. That set the grass roots on fire and they won't stop burning until 2012 if the Libs don't start listening and get out of denial.
I beginning to like this O'Donnell girl.
Their anti scientific bias is dangerous. Religion has no place in politics-if God is talking to you, you really need to see a mental health professional or at the very least understand that it is coming from within your own mind. Do you want people in charge of nuclear weapons to whom God is talking?
What's to get, Rich? The Conservative Movement is trying to harness the power of angry people, and trying to gin up that anger to the greatest extent possible. It's biting establishment Republicans because they're playing with fire. That sort of anger just can't be controlled. The wealthy financiers are fine with that as long as the chaos allows them to push policies that benefit the rich. They're OK with destroying people's ability to be reasonable as long as it works to their advantage. Ultimately though, it's a trend that's bad for our democracy.
I simply can't wait till Election night when these Tea Party extremist are defeated and they have to give their concession speeches. There bewildered supporters, who were sure they would win, will have these priceless 'deer in the headlights' look on their faces. "What happened? We were supposed to win!" WAA! WAA! WAA!
I seem to recall the same politics being played by the Democrats, only they use "Big business bad, poor people good" If you have any type problem, its big bad businesses fault. Oh wait or it could be Wall streets fault.
Don't act like the democrats are not doing exactly the same thing. They are using class warfare.
Beautiful use of projection, but there is a difference. The gap between the wealthy and the rest of us has more than tripled over the last 30 years http://www.cbpp.org/files/6-25-10inc.pdf . At the same time that middle class incomes were stagnant even in a growing economy http://economistsview.typepad.com/economistsview/2008/09/gdp-per-capita.html Congress enacted tax cuts that overwhelmingly benefitted the wealthy few http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/08/washington/08tax.html . CEO pay continues to soar even while people farther down the ladder lose their jobs http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38935053/ns/business-us_business/ .
So I guess you CAN say that both sides are doing the same thing if you want. Except that Conservatives are doing it to benefit the wealthy elites of society. THAT is a substantial difference.
Do you honestly believe that liberal policies "help the poor". Yeah like food stamps, welfare checks and housing projects really help the poor. They help them to stay poor and marginalized forever, people need opportunity. If you want to see a disappearing middle class go to any socialist country.
Poverty among the elderly dropped by a factor of 4 after Social Security was enacted. Poverty was reduced by half after the Great Society programs were implemented. It rose steadily throughout the Bush years, however. The results speak for themselves, no matter how hard Conservatives work to spin it otherwise. Have the programs been perfect? No, but society was better after their enactment.
Her voice is right up there with Palin's... makes my ears bleed every time I hear it...
And isn't it refreshing to see the 'values' voters AGAIN going back to the old standys of abortion and morals. Guess a lepoard CAN'T change it's stripes, can it?
Hey- if she lied aobut her education, I wonder if she lied about anything else. Somebody needs to demand a peek at the old birth-certificate. (not to determine citizenship, but to determine species)
Did she mean to say 'wingnuts', or 'ding-bats'?
Sorry. My post above should read "hope" not "home". I hate Fridays. My typing fingers are rushing out the door before me.
She had the red blazer, the hair, I really thought she would put on the glasses with no frames...It was, like, sooo cool...
The only THING you left out Dancnman... is the CFM shoes - leather biker jacket and the lipstick!
Somebody better check to see if she has hair on her fingers.
Be careful, you can't afford to have anything leak out of there
Gee, are all liberals as hateful as the bunch here on FR? You guys keep harping on non-issues. Instead of 2 years of "hope and change", we've had 2 years years of "same old sh!t" What's wrong with fiscal responsibility? Smaller government? A FAIR tax system? Of NOT throwing money away just because you can?
I got news for you libbies. I would rather have an O'Donnell than a neighborhood organizer or a career bloodsucker...er...politician. And I'm a proud Independent whose sick of getting stomped on by a party that doesn't care about the people who elected them...yeah, you. Bleeding heart liberals. "If it's broke, throw money at it" is the leftist mantra.
I'll take good middle American values over trumped up know it alls like those in power now.
I was curious so I just visted Junior Grizzly's web site. I didn't get very far.
Apparently you don't get to view her credentials on her web site without donating to her campaign or giving you your name and e-mail address (so she can spam you with propaganda, no doubt).
In the words of your idol, Mama Grizzly (allegedly), "Thanks but no thanks!"
I guess this means I also don't get to see the proof that Karl Rove's accusations from the other night are "unfactual".
Time was, when @!$%# got this bad, people who knew better packed up and left to find new land and a new method of governance.
No more undiscovered countries; no more future. What's left but for one side to start tearing the other limb from limb, eh?
Yep! I say buy some of Glen Beck's seed, plant a garden or pop em and watch the show. Stand back though, because the fur is gonna fly.
You People better wake up real soon and I do mean real soon......... By Daniel Gross Cut & Pasted of course
Here are five things you need to know about the debate over extendi ng the temporary tax cuts Congress passed almost a decade ago. (For those of you who haven't been paying attention in class, these are known as "the Bush tax cuts" because they were passed at the former president's urging, and if Congress does nothing, they will expire at the end of the year.)
1) All the representatives and senators who voted for the tax cuts in 2001 and 2003 also voted for their expiration. That's how they were designed.
2) The tax cuts could have been made permanent or extended at some point before now. Alternatively, the folks who ran fiscal policy from 2001 through 2008—the Republican White House and a Congress that was controlled for most of that period by Republicans—could have created the conditions that would have made it possible to extend the tax cuts or make them permanent. But they didn't. Instead of running balanced budgets, they appropriated hundreds of billions of dollars to fight two wars, created an expensive, open-ended entitlement without a funding mechanism (Medicare prescription drug coverage), and increased discretionary spending. Oh, and their failures of oversight, regulation, and management led to expensive, deficit-enhancing bailouts.
3) Many Republicans and some Democrats have spent much of the last year warning (falsely, it turns out) that the large deficits we face this year and in coming years would cause inflation, result in high interest rates, and turn us into indentured servants to China. Now, the same folks are arguing for … even-larger short-term deficits that somehow won't have all those ill effects. President Obama's proposal to extend the tax cuts for those making less than $250,000 per year will add $3.2 trillion to the debt. But as the Congressional Budget Office noted, extending them all will add $3.9 trillion in debt. Now, advocating tax cuts without specifying spending cuts (and, no, John Boehner, saying you want to roll back spending to 2008 levels doesn't count) means you're advocating a huge increase in new debt creation. It's sad to say, but it's nearly impossible to find a Democrat or Republican who can speak seriously about how we can align revenues with expenditures. (And, no, Rep. Paul Ryan, your much-discussed "road map" doesn't count, since it cuts taxes on the rich but doesn't lower deficits over the long term.)
4) The bold and confident assertions made about the links between tax rates and economic growth, market performance, and prosperity are almost certainly wrong. Turn on CNBC or look at the Wall Street Journal op-ed page these days, and you'll learn that we must keep tax rates on capital gains, dividends, and income precisely where they are because shifting them to different levels will retard economic growth. Keep this in mind: The people who designed the current, unsustainable tax system promised us that lower marginal rates, and lower taxes on capital and dividends, would boost the economy, promote investment, create jobs, spur market performance, and raise everybody's income. They were wrong. (It's no coincidence that these same people also warned us that raising taxes in 1993 would kill market returns and the economy. They were wrong then, too. They're pretty much always wrong.) As I've pointed out, the years under the current tax regime have been a lost decade. Pick your metric—median income, employment, stock market returns, economic growth—the low-tax '00s sucked. Yet proponents of keeping the tax cuts persist in making the argument: To avoid a repeat of the past decade, we must have the exact same tax policies as we did for the past decade.
5) Stopping all the tax cuts from expiring requires the passage of legislation. But the people who most want all the tax cuts extended—i.e., Republicans—don't have the ability to enact legislation. They don't control a majority in either legislative body, and for the past two years they've proved successful only at stopping or delaying legislation.
The upshot is this: If you're in the $250,000-per-year-and-up camp, even if you don't think you're rich, I'd start planning to pay higher taxes next year. But I wouldn't discount the scenario of all the tax cuts expiring. Look at what happened with the estate tax, another sop to the rich. In a bizarre turn of events, it was designed to decline throughout the decade, disappear entirely in 2010, and then return at a much higher level in 2011. Rather than compromise with Democrats on a permanent reduction that would leave lots of people better off but still require the richest of the rich to payer higher taxes, Republicans held out for a maximalist, all-or-nothing approach. They ended up with nothing. History may not repeat, but it sometimes rhymes.
Daniel Gross
Thanks for posting this. Many of us have tried to make some of those same points. During a Great Recession deficit spending is necessary. Raising taxes on the middle class right now makes no sense since the economy is improving but still sputtering. NO tax rates should ever be permanent. To make any cuts permanent is to ignore the future.
Jody,
I believe that making the middle class tax cuts permanent is more of a gesture to the middle class that the government is thinking about them. That's good and I like the idea, what I believe the Obama administration is proposing is making Bush's tax cut on the middle class permanent. In the future, if a tax increase is warranted, it will be done in another form i.e. it will simply be a new tax. Also, if warranted, the Bush Tax Cuts can be repealed (even after it is parmanent); think about it, the iron clad health care reform can be repealed.
With Congress, I think anything is possible. But as a whole... I agree with your sentiments.
Yeah, what he said.
Let all the Bush tax cuts expire.....the Democrats have been assuring me for the last eight years they were only for the rich anyway. So what does anyone making less than a million dollars a year have to worry about? We'll have this deficit paid down in no time.............
Walkinmyshoes: Excellent post!
Rob,
Why do we keep hearing that perversion of what has been said. No one said it was only for the rich, we’ve only said that it was too heavily weighted to the rich. The largest portion of the tax benefits went to the wealthy. It should have been more heavily weighted to the middle class, who do the vast majority of the discretionary spending. Instead way too much of the money went to people who weren’t hurting for money in any way, it only served to make them more wealthy and increase the gap between those who work for their money and those who’s money works for them.
Excellent post Walk In My Shoes, thanks for bringing it. The only thing the "Bush" tax cuts did was accelerate the off shoring of production by large corporations, since capital gains tax fell below the net corporate income tax. It did created more wealth for the captains of industry, the fund managers of Wall Street, and the already wealthy families all at the detriment of the rest of society. The only jobs they created were landscaping jobs for the undocumented, illegal aliens.
"Why do we keep hearing that perversion of what has been said. No one said it was only for the rich, we’ve only said that it was too heavily weighted to the rich."
Simple, the Conservative position doesn't stand on it's own. How else do you sell a tax plan that gives the median voter a $100 break while millionaires get $100,000? How else do you continue to claim that Democrats want to "mortgage our grandchildren's future" while Republicans want to borrow $800 MILLION from those same grandchildren -- partly financed by China -- to give to the wealthiest among us? To admit the truth is to admit that the Conservative Movement is really about serving the elites in our society. Those are the interests that Christine O'Donnell REALLY serves.
From what I have read, democrats propose extending the Bush tax cut for 98% of us for a period of time, not permanently. That makes sense at this particular time but permanent, never.
O my God, Carrie, did you say that we won't be hearing the last of her, even if she Loses.
I can see the Republican Ticket for 2012 now:
2 LensCrafter's Models trying to HoodWinkWInk America.
They could call the movie The Electoral College Trap...after a chance meeting Sarah Palin goes to Delaware while Christine O'Donnell heads to Alaska!
Too bad...Attack Of The Clones has already been taken.
If we elect people who hate government to run the government, we can't be surprised when they end up destroying the country. Don't say we didn't see it coming.
kimda like what happened 2001-2007
What makes you think it stopped in 2007? I think that's when it accelerated...........
Its better than having elected officials hate America like Obama.
Heartlight3,
The framers of the constitution did not HATE government. They FEARED government. That is why they limited it to those powers which they expressed. This thing we have now is WHAT they feared.
This woman is anti-American. Her official policy is to force 13-year old girl, who have been rapped, to carry the rapist's baby to full term! This teabagger is also for forcing the Federal Government to regulate when/if/how we masturbate! What has happened to the GOP?
JohnJohn1
This teabagger is also for forcing the Federal Government to regulate when/if/how we masturbate! What has happened to the GOP?
YUCK!!! way too much information.
Actually we need to call the policy what it really is...
The far right purists of the GOP want to force a 13-year-old girl to give birth to a baby that was conceived when she was raped by her father even if her own life would be in danger if she attempted to deliver.
JohnJohn1: Your scenario sounds "rowdy and passionate." It must be constitutional, too, to pass muster with C O'D.
Step back from the Democrats kool-aid JohnJohn.....they have you believing things that aren't true.
I am heartened to think the Democrats might actually hold onto both houses.
You will be very disappointed in early November. The news for the Democrats seems to get worse with each passing week.
Ohhh.. I am SO shaking in my sneakers... lmao
According to righties... the FAT LADY is singing... keep in mind the FINALE hasn't even begun!
BTW: What is your preference on how your CROW is cooked?
She's a real smart woman " YOU AIN'T THE BOSS OF ME "...... Thank you..palin ! lol
If O'Donnell and her crew are examples of "we the people" I think I'll find another group to join. Again, from Alice in Wonderland by Lewis Carroll; Alice: "it was the stupidest tea party I was ever at in all my life."
It's gotta be Palin/O'Donnell/2011... Yea, go team!!
annie13
"The pursuit of happiness is about individuals having the right to the fruit of their own labors," she told the crowd. "It's that simple."
Then let me make the money and keep it and not the fat cat business men1% who have something like 75% of the wealth of this country, or the other billionaires who have made their money from the sweat of the brows of illegal immigrants, destroying competition, refusing to allow for paid sick leave and manipulating the work force so that they have few responsibilities to their workers and all the profit.
And regarding limiting the power of government, I would like to keep the government, usually made up of men, out of my decisions over my body. And if I want to educate my children about sex and birth control, I want to be able to do so freely. If I have the grave misfortune to have to terminate a pregnancy i want the right to do so legally and safely. It's none of anyone else's business. And don't tell me I'm not pro-life, because that is exactly what I am. I am for every child being wanted and cared for and loved, and brought into the world by educated citizens who are in control of their lives.
I don't want anyone who believes that scientists have created mice with functioning human brains to have any power over any other human being, not do I want the theory of evolution placed the same level as creationism, which should not be taught in any school except as an oddity.
...and if it actually stood for something I might take it seriously.
Of course, O'Donnell is anti-"ruling class." She dosen't have enough class to rule (or serve in the Senate of the United States of America).
She hates the "Ruling class" because she's broke. She a perennial has been like her former campaign manager stated. The fact that she wants 13 year old to carry their rapist babies and prohibit masturbation should be a crime in itself. Maybe she needs someone to loosen her up a little.
Hey, we got Barney Frank, you got Sean Hannity...
And you have (in no particular order): Harry Reid, Joe Biden, Maxine Waters, Barbara Boxer, Nancy "We have to pass the bill so we can see what's in it" Pelosi, Sheila Jackson, Charlie Rangel, and my real favorite, demonstrating liberal genius at its pinnacle - Hank "I'm afraid Guam will tip over and capsize" Johnson from Georgia.
Yeah - a stellar collection of America's brilliant minds at work.
She SAYS she's "anti ruling class" but how can that be? She's pushing the agenda of Dick Armey and Grover Norquist, the Koch brothers and all the other wealthy funders of the Conservative Movement. It simply isn't possible to be in favor of what the wealthy elites wish and at the same time "anti ruling class."
What's with this need for prefacing every wealthy republican with the adjective 'wealthy'? How come you never hear a liberal say wealthy Al Gore or wealthy John Kerry or wealthy Ted Kennedy? Only the republicans seem to be able to be deserving, in liberal eyes, of the term wealthy. Oh yeah, because when used in liberal context, it is meant as slanderous. On flip side, I thought the republicans were hill billy God loving gun toters? Which is it?
Why even bother with the class based adjectives - just say 'republican, of whom I hate, because they have different opinions then me'?
It's a way of pointing out that class warfare is real. Conservatives have been waging class warfare for 30 years, and the rich are winning BIG. Meanwhile anyone who has concern for those who are the real meat and potatoes of American society is tarred with the "class warfare" label and cowed into denying the real truth of what's happening. We're even supposed to be ashamed of those wealthy Liberals you mentioned, as if being concerned with societal fairness and the well-being of someone not as fortunate should be a source of shame. If ANYONE should be ashamed it's those who have it all and want what everyone else has as well. Greed runs rampant among Conservative leaders and we're expected to pretend that's a good thing, even healthy. It isn't a good thing, in fact it'll lead to the end of America as a great power.
John - conservatives have been waging class warfare? Your argument is ridiculous. Again, like racism and sexism, class differentiation is the domain of the liberal party. You get everyone all ginned up over people who have more money. They must be EVIL. The STEAL "YOUR" money. You've got that backwards. You advocate taking the money from a 'rich' person and giving it to a poor person. Based on what? Your belief that they stole it? Well, fine, get rid of all the rich people. Who will employ the so called 'poor'? Have you ever seen a poor person running a corporation? You have no clue how to build wealth, and you have no clue how people build wealth. Your jealous, and you are the one who engages in class warfare.
How do you even define rich? What is the magic number? How much is too much? What do you do about that 'poor' guy who worked the last 20 years making minimum wage, and going into debt, because he had a dream of being successful. Now, finally, his or her hard work pays off and they finally get some additional business because people suddenly find their product useful to them. Now, after 20 years of being broke, he cashes in a year of $300K income. Well, that person still has 20 years of being broke and $200K worth of accumulated debt to pay off. Ahh - is that person a filthy stinking rich criminal? Where do you draw the line?
That Fortune 50 CEO who earns 5 million dollars a year is making decisions that most people can't make. The business expects them to make decisions that we will keep the company in business, and YES, make a profit. They have the skill, talent, and experience to do it. They take risks that you could only imagine. And all you can do is just immediately assume that they are taking YOUR money. Give me a break. Again, it is liberals who engage in class warfare.
Ridiculous? The evidence speaks for itself. Evidence of rapidly accumulating wealth at the top of society http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Income_inequality_in_the_United_States , of stagnating income among the middle class http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/1a8a5cb2-9ab2-11df-87e6-00144feab49a.html , of steadily decreasing benefits and decreasing upward mobility http://www.csmonitor.com/2003/0127/p21s01-coop.html . CEO pay continues to soar as everyone else is squeezed, and apparently has nothing to do with performance.
Yes, the rich are doing a great job of beating down the rest of us. Class warfare is real and they rich are winning.
larkin1974
Values meeting, Ha Ha Ha,.. every 4 years you GOPhers try to out moral each other at these things. Who is the biggest moral Christian, Gay hating, Abortion and Women rights haters of all times. How high on the self righteous meter can one stand. The only but real problem you have is that your party is full of people who masturbate, Governors who take long hikes in Argentina, fool around on your wives/husbands, have the highest level of abortions in the nation, and are all "gayed" up around the country. You watch more porn than liberals, less educated than democrats, drop out of school at higher rates. Now, how do you run on a platform of purity with all that baggage?
This poster is so right !
Is this a Saturday Night Live skit... what the heck is happening. Is there a Sarah Palin school for Idiots. Now we have two in the media spotlight... which is frightening! The media will not cover the president of the united sates who wants to talk about the issues, but they will cover this nimrod O'Donnell from sun up to sunset. It's the "Age of Jerry Springer" effect ...that's what sells and the media will exploit it for their ratings.
Sickening
It does seem many have forgotten, we don't know a lot about Obama and he won't tell us. I bet very soon, we will know a lot more about O'Donnell. Lot's of stupid hate here from the liberals. Can't stand what is happening that the establishment is falling like dominoes. Will they make it come November, we can hope. And O'Donnell isn't as bad as a lot that are in there now. Give her a chance, she's a nice looking lady. Better to look at than a lot of the old established men and the California women that ruin our nation.
She must have gotten the Mouse brain in that Human/Mouse stem cell crazy Dr Monroe scientist OMG we're creating monsters out of mice lab in Delaware that only she knows about.
Loony tune does not make good politics go home and masturbate you'll feel better, little value voter.
Thanks teabaggers - without you we would have certainly lost the Senate seat in Del - now it's a shoe in. My favorite crazy thing about this crazy woman is her theory that the government was creating humans that looked like mice. It's too hard to even try to make this stuff up!
Better listen to your former Senators advice about the Tea Party. Even Joe knows that the Dems can't beat the Republicans and the Tea Baggers. And a vote against a Democrat is just as good as a vote for a Republican. Odd how the Dems went from their rule for 20 years plan of two years ago to this. They sold out to the extreme left, just as the Republicans are selling out to the extreme right.
Moonbats, you are right, the Tea Party probably lost this Delaware Senate seat for the Republicans...
The poor powerless Tea Party will have to console itself with the consolation prize of helping take 70 + House seats and 9 other Senate seats from the Democrats...not to mention Governors....
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Why are you reporting anything she says? She's not going to win unless there's some hanky panky going on in Delaware.
Note: Actually she said the government was cloning mice that have human brains Tony. But why quibble --both statements are totally wacko.
Palin and O'Donnell and Angle are all scaring the crappola out of a lot of you guys or you wouldn't be trying so hard to disparage then everytime you can.
Face it, they are here and they are more popular than you want to admit. Are any of them electable? We'll see, but in the meantime it sure is fun to watch you all reaching the boiling point.
Please scarring the crappola out who? All us godless liberals are doing is pointing out how moronic the tea badgers and the so called value voters are. Get real join the Human race.
O Contraire Kirby, Teabaggers are Entertainment. Like the People who vote for them!
Jerry Springer should do a show on all Teabaggers.
Neilson ratings would go thru the roof.
Here's some popcorn for a Rick... this Freak Show is just getting started...lmao
They certainly scare the crap out of me. I can get behind and even vote for republicans fiscal policies. And then this junk surfaces and I realize I would rather continue having a tough time financially then deal with right wing wackos inserting themselves in individuals rights. wait, aren't they supposed to be in FAVOR of leaving people alone to live their life as long as it doesn't hurt others????
Thank you Impartial... I believe there are a LOT of Republicans out there just like you!
We cannot let the inmates run the asylum!
Kirby - why is it that if a Republic wins there must be something going on, but if a liberal wins everything must be on the up and up. Why do liberals consider their line of thinking to be qualified as 'normative' and therefore everyone else who thinks differently must be a divergence from normal? My, how elite.
Feisty - that is exactly what the public is saying. So in November, we should have a lot of empty rooms after the upcoming democrat defeat.
My first thought when I saw C O'D was, "Wow, she reminds me of Elaine from Seinfeld." Julia Louis-Dreyfus, your career may have just gotten a boost like Tina Fey's did!
Good for her: strike at the Harvard, and Yalies, et al! they are the problem, zero new thinking, dogma, brainwashed sycophants of the left! puppets and servants of soros, and the commie Eastern Europe.
Yes, now elitism means going to college and graduating in less than 16 years without having lied about it.
I thought it was Republicans who lacked new thinking. Oh that's right, they brainwashed their sycophants of the right (welcome to the party) that they have something new: the ability to deny any new bill introduced by the left. That includes a bill that would have aided small businesses.
No personal attacks: O'Donnell opens fall campaign
O'Donnell ... anti-"elitism"
O'Donnell ... "they don't get us."
O'Donnell ..."You are not the boss of me."
O'Donnell ... "DC cocktail crowd,"
O'Donnell ... "ruling class,"
O'Donnell ... "green police,"
O'Donnell ... "There are more of us than there are of them,"
O'Donnell ... "They'll buy your teenaged daughter an abortion, but they wont let her buy a sugary soda in her school's vending machine."
O'Donnell ... "We're loud, we're rowdy, [and] we're passionate,"
haha... she's a goofball.
The lefties are wound up today according to the above posts. I am willing to bet not one of you are actually from Delaware or have even listened to any of her speeches. You have read exerts from MSNBC and other left wing rags and based your opinion on here say. If any of you are from Delaware you wouldn't have voted for Castle either. You all will vote democrat no matter what. Not one post above has added anything to the topic on this site. She might not win, but that is up to the people of Delaware not left wing nuts across the country. If you want to be constructive in this election year, get out and support and vote for your candidate in your states. I am sure that no one in Delaware is reading your comments.
sfcret, is First Read blacked out in Delaware?
No it's not blacked out in Delaware, but I doubt if any of the posts above will help anyone make up their minds, since the anti O'Connell rants only try and vilify and done of them are informative in anyway. If Castle had won you lefties would be saying the same thing about him.
sfcret, just kidding with you. I hear what you're saying. But I really do think O'Donnell and Julia Louis-Dreyfus favor. :)
Very good reply. It is evident by the vitrol, as usual, from the left, that the old saying,"thouest protests too much" is in full effect today.
They are already very worried and underestimating her potential to be elected. Is actually a good thing and even Mathews agrees the left is missing the movement and it's impact on the fall elections.
Who knows what Delaware will do, but it is their state to decide, not this board left wing.
Vernr - yeah - if she has no chance of winning, why such concern from the opposite side.
Wow, ruling class? That would be the class of which you have (and hope to) receive your endorsements, O'Donnell. This is simply playing stupid to her base. Although I have to wonder if she's playing. What's amazing is how many people will just eat up words that completely lack any sense of constructiveness. Who does this remind me of....
My concern with her is not that she will win, but that others like her are more and more representing what was once a thriving and legitimate party.
There is a good point being made by DAK4Blizzard: We are served by having two well functioning political policies. The one out of power serves as the loyal opposition. It is important that the "loyal" part not be forgotten. That is what is missing now.
the problem with the Tea Partyers is this: They have to move and work out of Washington. Now if they're going to Washington to clean it up, etc. why don't they stay in their home state and work from home? Because once they get to Washington, they become "them."
I would basically agree with you're philosophical point. That would mean strengthening state control and downsizing federal control or maybe we need 2-3 congressional locations. One for west coast politicians and one for east coast politicians. Or we could move the capitol to the center of the country. This group is the best chance we have as "the small citizens" to reclaim power by the people and not a government dictating on just for the people.
More of the Republican Wraith! Retards.with.Religious.and.Ignorant.Thinking.Hypocrites
I hope these nutbags make a good showing ,it will make their supposedly take over very disappointing for them.
Hi Sally,
I will give you one perspective on your post re: work at home. At the beginning of this administration, when conservatives first began to notice the strong leftward trend of the government, the people to the right of center reacted using the same tactic which has been historically adequate to address the government, i.e. a demonstration of unity by the concerned people. Hence the 9/12 mass demonstration. It obviously failed to impact the course of the administration. Why it failed was not clear. Subsequent demonstrations erupted in hopes that a concentration of demonstrations might succeed where a concentration of people failed. It soon became clear that that tactic did not work. It did, however, cause the government to take note of the discontent of a large group of people and to respond by attempting to marginalize them to reduce any threat they might pose. As tensions escalated, people did, in fact, give up on influencing the government by using demonstrations and began to work within individual states to influence elections and sway public opinion toward the center. Several state organizations have moved their preferred candidates into the general election arena.
In summary, I think people are moving away from large demonstrations to state efforts.