I agree. That's what happened with "Change you can believe in", "Yes, we can", etc.

I suspect that Bennet is sowing "sour grapes" since his ouster.

Actually, Renee, there were actual policies and details underlying those slogans. Ehre are the ideas and details underlying the curreent Republican's slogans?

Isnt it funny how Bennet points out the blatenly obvious. Duuuuu Bennet, how about telling us how water is wet and the sky is blue.

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I suspect that Bennet is sowing "sour grapes" since his ouster.

Bennet said. “They think, ‘Oh, that's just Glenn Beck,’ … But there’s a very powerful political movement forming up and if the polls are right, I think it’s going to win back the House and could easily win back the Senate."

Bennet's advice is so correct and should heed warning.

Glenn Beck quoted ---Dr King's "Content of Character…not color of skin". Then Beck queried-- What is wrong with restoring honor in this country? What’s wrong with holding our government accountable to the highest standards of integrity?

As one can see Bennet is so correct. Glenn Beck as well as Tea Baggers have no integrity and should be judged by the content of their character .

There is no moral fiber in the weird slogans the Tea Baggers present. The slogans are so eccentric, regressive, and unconventional.

As Dr Dyson said on Keith Olberman’s show Dr King ignored moderates in the Civil Rights movement who told DR King to seek change gradually rather than rapidly. MOB talkers like Glenn beck, Sarah Palin, Limbaugh are doing this for their ratings, money. Most of all, these people carry the water for political gain as they laugh all way to the bank with money.

They have been well publicized but not by the leftist networks. As long as you keep your blinders on you will never see everything.

“I think the party is on the threshold of what everybody in the press will call a historic victory,” he said. “And we’re on the threshold of real problems if we don’t have a governing philosophy.”

Bob Bennett is a sharp old bird. He's absolutely right and can freely speak his mind. Every quote attributed to him in this article should be read and re-read by the Republican Hierarchy. There will be HELL to pay after the perceived Republican take-over in Congress, when all the rhetoric during the campaigns come home to roost and the newly crowned Congressmen and Senators (on both sides really) find themselves facing the same angry "Bee Hive" of constituents, constituents which they will find impossible to sidestep with their self righteous blather any longer.

"The White House underestimates the political power of republican slogans"

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Wrong.

The White House underestimates the political power of a constitutional republic and the intelligence of hard working citizens.

Matthew, Houston, TX

"Actually, Renee, there were actual policies and details underlying those slogans."

Does anyone remember which are the "change" policies and which ones are the "hope" ones?

Yeah! Fired Up and Ready to Go! (policies behind that one too...)

My favorite was "Ready to lead on day one"...but that was from someone else...

That's what you got out of this? Bennet further cementing the widely cited belief that the Republican party lacks ideas?

How about Bennett's on admission that he can now speak freely because he is no longer an elected official/running for reelection? That's pretty damning of our political system, and rightly so. It is clear to some that politicians curb their speech or speak less than candidly because they are catering to the party's wishes, special interests, an increasingly ignorant populace, or some combination. I'm just glad to see someone say it. How unfortunate that he had to be fired first.

Anon - your post is right on.

The Senator is TELLING ALL OF US that the GOP Party STIFLES moderate thinking. The Senator is TELLING US that if we vote the GOP in on November 2, they have NO CLUE as to what they are going to do as far as governance is concerned.

This is not a 'liberal' talking - it's a FORMER REPUBLICAN Senator.

The language that this Republican senator uses is most damning. Why come out with this now? Why not wait until after the November election?

Some can argue this is 'sour grapes'; I can appreciate that. However, this is more of a warning than anything else. Sour Grapes or not, for once, we should heed what this man is saying.

Pietro - my post was less about Republicans stifling moderation (though that seems to be true right now), and more about our political system stifling honesty. Our politicians are, like any other person, trying to keep their jobs. So, rather than get elected on the strength of their ideas and their base's connection to those ideas, politicians try to appeal to the broadest audience possible. Couple that with an uninformed populace and a news system more interested in creating narratives for ratings and relying on talking points than reporting on the intricacies of a person's views or an issue, and our politicians are effectively shackled.

Left-wing pAniC aTtACk

As a native Utard myself, I have spent a long time frustrated about how closed minded, and agenda focused, the GOP has become. Especially in a state where most policy is presented to the LDS church for approval prior to the vote. Bob Bennett has been the only Republican in a great long time to act as a true Republican. By which I mean favoring smaller government, and a sense of fiscal conservativeness, not by being rhetoric driven moral police.

He sees that the GOP is all talk, but when asked to clarify there positions, they become defensive and childish. Either they don't know the answer, which would make them incompetent and ignorant, or the true answer doesn't fit with their agenda, which makes them down right scandalous. If the things people say sound like BS, they should be investigated further, not taken as doctrine.

Anon Monster - thanks for clarifying. Point made, point taken.

Sorry I am not afraid of people who want to restore constitutional government(the "tea baggers" as certain posters call them).I do believe social security should be dissolved. What scares me is the idea of Douchebaggers that I should be forced by the government to take care of others. Chris Assthews and Maddcow's messages are far worse and more hatefull to me than Glen Beck. While I may not agree with Beck's religious views that everyone needs to believe in god to be a good American I do believe that our politicians should follow the constitution.

"The small-government message of candidates like Lee neglects the role that presidents and Congress have played in seminal issues like civil rights, he added. “As a Republican believing in free markets, I nonetheless concede that there is a role for government. There are too many people in the Republican Party who don’t, who say there is no role for government.”

I'm a believer in small government, too. But not until the present ding-heads straighten out the mess they have made of my America. And they need to start with the Supreme Court fiasco of declaring a corporation a human being. Check out HR 5175. I can't believe all the idiotic riders on this needed legislation.

Sigh.

How many seats the Republicans take is going to depend on how pathetically stupid the electorate is. The GOP drove the country into the ground, and has no ideas other than the same disasterous policies that got us in the mess we're in. President Obama has worked since day one to help the country by cleaning up the GOP's policies of de-regulation of Wall Street (which lead to rich corporations and their CEO's helping themselves to anything they could grab, while tanking the economy in the process), tax breaks for the rich (they'll still pay next to nothing because of all their legal loopholes, even without the Bush tax cuts), a war waged for the sole benefit of enriching Halliburton, the gutting of environmental regulations designed to allow their buddies industry to make a killing while poisoning our air and water, etc etc. For his efforts, the jealous Republicans did what they always do when a Democrat is elected, blanket the media with lies, simple but incendiary cliches that appeal to non-readers, and ridiculous and vicious rumors about a brilliant, decent, Christian president. I saw Palin on her tour of hate in the Northeast in the last election cycle, and the people she "energized" where nothing but a collection of neo-nazi's, misogynists, racists and random dumbasses screaming "Kill Obama" before he was even elected. Now she's the voice of those people, plus others who refuse to pick up a newspaper and do any critical thinking. For them, getting another idiot to do their thinking for them, is worth giving up their Constitutional rights, and everybody elses in the process.

Given to evils....... the obstructionists have no place in the current efforts to revive this sagging economy. they have nothing to offer except "NO" policies Tax cuts to the wealthiest Americans are not paid for and it led us into the current ditch. Prolonging this tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans will only make things worse. they continue to say that tax increase during economic down turn is not good for the economy. I agree. But the weathy Americans don't even need these tax cuts.

I will take a lack of direction over this one way express lane to a brick wall any day!!

Sometimes it's best to stop and take a look at what you have done wrong before you continue.

The republicans come November will stop this runaway tyranny and gets us back on track.

PatriotRogue:

Very Very well said!! Keep up the good work. See you at the polls come November ;)

I see the liberal agenda is running this vine. There was NO reason to delete PatriotRogue's post. He didn't attack anyone personally, his post was on topic and well thought out, and the only reason I can see for it being deleted is :

THE TRUTH HURTS

Mo, "Hope and Change" was a slogan. The left fell for a slogan from a junior senator from Illinois, with no real experience outside of once being a community organizer. Judging by the unemployment numbers, it hasn't worked out to well.

Gary:

Understand that the current absence of "hope" or "change" is not due to a lack of effort on Obama's part. His campaign promise to "transform Washington" was built on the premise that seeking consensus and compromise would bring real progress. America would benefit by leadership that works across party lines.

He didn't anticipate the GOP's lack of interest in doing what they are elected to do: work in the interests of the American people. They put obstruction, and indeed, destruction of the administration at the top of their priority list. Screw the administration, and in the process, screw the middle class, and all will be well. Given their base of corporate interests and far right wing fringe groups, there was little obvious political risk to that strategy. As a result, they have successfully obliterated bipartisanship, and in the process, any "hope" for "change."

I didn't "fall" for hope and change. I voted for it. Those who destroyed it will have the consequences on their consciences for many years.

Rather than criticize Obama for failure, you should consider manning up and admitting to the real cause of the failure. I'm sure you, and many others on your side, are very proud of your "accomplishments."

bilweelr, quit believing the DNC party line. When the Democrats realized that they did not need a single Republican vote to pass any bill they wanted, they ceased all attempts at working in a bipartisan way. That's how they passed the turkey of a stimulus. That is also why the version of Obama care out there was crafted almost entirely by Harry Reid.

Gary -- please do some basic research! President Obama had quite a bit of experience....as a community organizer, lawyer, law school professor and state legislator before he became a US Senator. .. And this was in Illinois, a populated state with a mix of urban and rural concerns, and one where he had to establish his own credentials, without the help of a family name that people in Illinois would know and recognize. He had also written two books (without a ghost writer). No one can evaluate your comments when you begin by not acknowledging established fact.

What can I say Gary, this Hope and Change has worked very well for me and my family, sorry you got left out. Perhaps you should do as Janis Joplin suggests: Try, just a little bit harder!

Kate, leave them alone. Neither Gary nor Hobie are interested in real history, facts or even doing research.

STTS

When the Democrats realized that they did not need a single Republican vote to pass any bill they wanted, they ceased all attempts at working in a bipartisan way. That's how they passed the turkey of a stimulus.

FYI - In the Senate, the following Republicans voted in favor of the Stimulus:

Olympia Snowe

Susan Collins

Arlen Specter (he had not switched parties at the time of the vote)

They were thanked for the effort by being branded by Rupert Murdoch's WSJ as "Enablers In Chief".

Mo- I join you in the hope that the American electorate would not vote on the basis of slogans- but I believe that it will. The average American voter couldn't be bothered reading position papers (even if candidates put out meaningful ones these days), or reading the texts of, and comparing, speeches given to different demographics on the same topic, or, heaven forbid, actually doing some research into the allegations contained in election commercials. While we have the greatest election freedom here, we also have the laziest voters, who would rather watch the TV commercial, accept it as gospel, and go back to their prime-time sitcom than do some research about who they choose to lead our country.

"... junior senator from Illinois..."

That was the whole idea. A politician from a new generation after what we have experienced for the last many years is exactly what we needed. That's why Barack Obama won. The change means getting rid of the dead weight in Congress. They don't give a **** about the middle class, the working class. Same with the media. Same faces over and over and over who can't get anything right except what the GOP feeds them. They fall for every lie hook, line and sinker.

The same pundits who are dissing Palin now, loved her in 2008. We Democrats knew she had nothing positive to offer this country, but the media love to be entertained and never have any real concern for the rest of us and how having her in office will affect our lives.

They're more into gossip than they are into real journalism. They spin and spin and spin. They make huge huge money so they can't relate to anyone outside of their inner circle. They never go out and do real journalism like was done many many years ago. They just sit around and echo each other.

And we're supposed to believe that Boehner is for the working class because that's where he came from? This is flat out false. I'm from a huge working class family and I have never sold out. Boehner is like my older brother - they forgot where they came from, and bow down to the lying wealthy send jobs overseas tax cheats, while blaming the poor for everything. Boehner hasn't done a damn thing for the working/middle class. NOT ONE THING.

The culture wars began with the GOP. And the media let them get away with it.

Bilweeler

Your kidding, right. Demos played with the G.O.P.???? Really? Locking them out of discussions, back room deals, Pelosi telling them to shut up, we won deal with it. Yup, you are right. Keep sipping your partisan koolaid.

Burn-1511074

Bilweeler

Your kidding, right. Demos played with the G.O.P.???? Really? Locking them out of discussions, back room deals, Pelosi telling them to shut up, we won deal with it. Yup, you are right. Keep sipping your partisan koolaid.

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Burn

The debates were on C-span and can still be viewed on youtube in case you missed them. No one was locked out. The Healthcare was on line for 72 hours. The President campaigned on bipartisanship and he reached over and over to the other side; just to be told "NOPE"

Nobody told Republicans to shut up. You're very confused. It was the Tea Baggers who shouted lawmakers down in the townhalls per Dick Armey's reverse Saul Alinsky instructions.

The New York Times reported on August 8, 2009 that organizations opposed to the health insurance reform legislation were urging opponents to be disruptive. It noted that the Tea Party Patriots web site circulated a memo instructing them to "Pack the hall. Yell out and challenge the Rep’s statements early. Get him off his prepared script and agenda. Stand up and shout and sit right back down."^[116] The memo continued, "The Rep [representative] should be made to feel that a majority, and if not, a significant portion of at least the audience, opposes the socialist agenda of Washington."^[117]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tea_Party_protests

Well, Burn? What is your answer to Beverly? Do you have one?

Wow...that sure brought the critics out of the woodwork.

Just an editorial comment here...my first post didn't insult or call Gary any names. To Gary's credit, he replied with the same courtesy. Those who can't stick to logic and facts have not contributed to the discussion in the slightest:

Hobie81: "what planet are you from?!?!"

Burn: "Keep sipping your partisan koolaid."

That said, I didn't see any reply denying a) that the GOP is obstructing the administration, b) that the GOP intends to destroy the administration's agenda. Accordingly, let's presume both statements are true.

As we all know, the Senate currently operates under MINORITY rule. The GOP has used that situation to bottle up all manner of legislation and appointments. That's their strategy. Don't listen to me; that's what they say themselves. http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/12/judd-gregg-lays-out-maximally-obstructive-gop-game-plan-on-health-care.php

Bipartisanship? Done. Whether you believe Obama ever really wanted it or not, the GOP has burned that bridge. Dems agreed to compromise after compromise with them, just to find no GOP support for legislation that they helped craft.

In other words, it's time for the GOP, it's TParty subsidiary, and all the other right wing fringe groups to claim credit. You have accomplished your objective. That you compromised national interests is immaterial; your electoral results were always the goal. Give yourselves a high five.

Just don't blame anyone but yourselves for the debris you create when the smoke clears.

Gary-302710// Hope is what he brought and change is what is happening. It is easy to shrug off hope and change but hope is what put Pres Obama in office and change is the policies he has put forth. If you say he failed bringing change in process of how Washington works I agree with you. That would take the hand of GOD himself. What he is changing is the direction this country is going in. Policies that protect the middle class. From Wallstreet/health ins and credit card companies. No matter how unpopular his policies are "percieved" thay are needed and will benefit the majority of Americans in the long run and near future. That is what republicans do not want to happen. They want credit for what they are unable to create which is middle class prosperity. Their policies did what they were designed to do and that is fatten the pockets of the rich while "working class" folks that bust their butt day in day out don't see the fruits of their labor. It's disgusting. Change is difficult but necassary and this is what Obama is bringing. And once the smoke clears it will again be the democratic party with Obama as the leader that was there for the working class when we needed it the most. Republicans just hope thay dirty the water enough to cloud the positive things Obama is doing to gain power again. If that happens in a couple months just watch as the economy starts to get better and Obama policies take root how they will try to take credit. Take my word for it they will try to "hijack" hope and change. They are better at politics than the democratic party as a whole but in the end thats all they will be known for,playing games with the American people spewing lies to keep power and control like thay have had for the better of 20yrs. And look where were at. Democrats/ and REAL independents need to get out and vote and keep these REPUBS masked as real Americans out of office.

Rubicon78 - I agree wholeheartedly. Many voters simply vote for the candidate who makes the most noise, has the most yard signs, most TV commercials (usually attack ads, not their own ideas), etc. These are usually the candidates who are the best funded (by special interests, etc.). Other's don't have a clue - look at So. Carolina, with Alvin Greene - nobody had any idea who either candidate was, they just voted blindly.

Where I live, and presumably in most places, the local papers publish profiles of the candidates, where they stand on a variety of issues, etc. Voters who inform themselves by reviewing these profiles are in the minority. Others vote party line or, in many cases, play some kind of lottery in the voting booth, like they did in So. Carolina. As long as we remain uninformed voters, we will continue to have legistative paralysis.

Bilweeler, great post and thanks for the link. What I found interesting was the link at the bottom directs to a page with a, manifesto if you will, of how to obstruct. It is quite clever and I have to give them a great deal of kudos for the way they have carried out the campaign time and time again and even more than that, how they have convinced so many that it is ok to play this kind of political chess especially when it goes against the interest of the very people that buy in to the rhetoric. I wish I had those kind of maniacal manipulation tactics that I could convince the people that I am wronging that I am doing it in their best interest. Oh and actually have them buying in to it! I could be sitting in a yacht somewhere off some south pacific island from all the swap land I sold LOL! It's tough being honest.

You liberals scare the he$$ out of me - the Hope and change your god was spewing was to turn this country into a comunist state - you all must be getting part of the "redistribution of wealth" As far as I am concerned - I am tired of working 80 hours a week to give all your "aren't we better than you entitlements" my hard earned money.

Gary you lost any credibility when you repeated the community organizer sound bite, it's two years old do try to keep up with the rest of us your falling behind. So go back over and play with your Fox buddies.

I love it when Obama bashers try to use the fact that the Dem's had a majority and therefore should have been able to pass anything they wanted as some kind of statement against the GOP being the party of "No". It's such a brainless argument.

The fact is that the GOP, as a party, voted "NO" on everything therefore the Dem party, almost entirely as a party, would have to vote "Yes" to get anything to pass.

Guess what party was doing their job...

If you said "The Republicans", congratulations. You just outed yourself as being a dyed in the wool, republican who can't think past party affiliation. ie., you're an idiot.

The Dem's were doing their job and debating the various bills and saying "Less of this. More of that." and trying to find the best way to accomplish the task at hand and so not all of them would vote "yes" on a bill.

The republicans were simply unanimous in their decision to make the current admin. look bad no matter what damaged it caused to the country. No suggestions, no ideas just a "no" vote on everything and then blame the dem's for not getting anything done...

Sickntired - I've never met a republican yet who worked as many hours as you claim. I have more times than I can count, which is why I never, ever vote for those who do anything to help those already wealthy make even more money. all they do is use the working class to get richer, perhaps I am sick and tired too - of working a real 80 hour a week job (or more than one job) just to make some rich guy richer?

Its no wonder Bennett lost, its obvious he not a conservative. The wave that is sweeping the country is made up of of a cross section of America, not just country hicks as some of you self righteous intellectual fools would like to believe. Bennett is nothing more than a sore looser and this article proves it.

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"Gary -- please do some basic research! President Obama had quite a bit of experience....as a community organizer, lawyer, law school professor and state legislator before he became a US Senator."

Oh, Kate. it's obvious you believe Obama can walk on water, but your "information" is bent more than just a little.

1) A "community organizer" may have jobs as simple as addressing and/stuffing envelopes. It's a vague term and really doesn't denote anything.

2) Barack Obama has never been a practicing lawyer. Having a degree in law does not make one a lawyer. He has also never published a review for inclusion in his University's law publication, although he was appointed (not elected) to be the editor of it.

3) Barack Obama has never been a law professor anywhere.

4) He was a one term state legislator. I do not consider this as adequate experience to become President of the United States.

5) He was a one term Senator. I do not consider this as adequate experience to become President of the United States.

Both of the books you mention as having been written by Barack Obama have many literary figures stating outright that "his" books were indeed ghost written and even name the person who wrote them. Chris Yavelow and Jack Cashill (among others) both trace the writing style to Bill Ayers’.

Just sayin'

"just sayin'" That's your closing argument? Oh, right, I ought to believe everything that you rattled off as "facts" because you're "just sayin'". You are an imbecile!

"A president that was elected by the majority of voters? Wouldn't that be what our system of government provides for?"

The goverment is not supposed to provide for its people....sigh

The goverment is supposed to inforce laws (immigration) is just one example, AND most of all, listen and support what the people want. This socialist like regime does not care what the people want. They think the people are too stupid to know what they want and FORCE their agendas whether the people like it or not.

That is what is meant by taking our country back. This isn't China

Yes, "Take our Government Back!" is a slogan...and while Obama and the Dems may have been elected by the majority...they are now endangered of losing also by the majority...in the free elections of 2010 and 2012. Why? Because they sold a bill of goods they couldnt keep. They lied!

" I will change how Government is run" ...Same old same old..If not worse, with all the backroom deals and vote buying from this administration

" Bi-partisonship" WHERE? At every turn he demonizes the Repubs and refuses to work together...then says even when they can't stop anything that they are obstructing...

"The HCR Mandate is NOT a Tax...the repubs are just saying that to obstruct HCR" ... LIE LIE LIE...His justice dept lawyers are arguing in court that it IS a tax. No One in the media has the guts to ask him about this and call him a liar to his face.

You talk about Obama wrestling control from Koch Brothers ...to what benefit? He turned it over to "his" backers...Goldman Sachs and George Soros.

You are right, we did get the Government we deserved...we fell for the "Hope and Change" line and got a President who was a jr Senator with little experience..mostly as a community organizer who never held a real job that had to produce anything. Almost everyone in his administration is a cronie that has the same attributes, no real experience just theories...

Dear KaptainKrunch: Firstly, the word is "enforce". Aside from that, while I know those of you who listen only to Faux News would not be aware of this, President Obama has GREATLY improved border enforcement: Read: from Media Matters: Conservative Media Oblivious to Major Increase in Border Enforcement" July, 29, 2010.

Popular opinion regarding the majority of Obama's landmark, historic, and whatever word the press wants to give it - legislation has been negative either during the process or afterward. And while I know you don't like polls... (something you share in common with George Bush I might mention), these polls have proven themselves fairly correct to date. For example, the election of Scott Brown - the truth of these things will come to light in November, and that will put an end to this debate.

Of the people that voted for Obama, a portion of them voted for him not because of who he was or his policy, but because he simply wasn't Bush, and he didn't have a "R" beside his name. Others bought into his charisma and use of empty words like "hope" and "change"... they didn't bother to find out what the changes were, or to hope for. As a result Obama has lost support from people on the right that voted for him, as well as the 60% of the independents he had (which any Democrat needs to win a Presidential election). Obama may be doing, or trying to do exactly what he promised... but that doesn't mean that all these people were intelligent about him. Hopefully it is a lesson learned, but I doubt it.

I know that you like hedging towards the race card as a reason behind this dislike for Obama. And there will be a portion of people in the United States who honestly don't like him under that context, but do not display the depth of your ignorance in stereotyping people that don't agree with these policys as being racists. In addition, most of your statements can be easily reversed - for example, with all of the reporting from your non-Fox news organizations which have a left leaning - during the whole health care debate, they covered the news and represented the Democrats stances time and time again without complaint, research, or attempting to truly interpret the sanity or lack there of of the situation. And over the past 4 months these same news organizations have been stepping back all over themselves with the administration as their fantasy is being ripped down for the reality it is.

Depending on only one news source is going to give you all sorts of surprises... especially when you don't have enough common sense to apply your own opinion to the base facts without a news organization helping you.

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Dear KaptainKrunch: Firstly, the word is "enforce". Aside from that, while I know those of you who listen only to Faux News would not be aware of this, President Obama has GREATLY improved border enforcement: Read: from Media Matters: Conservative Media Oblivious to Major Increase in Border Enforcement" July, 29, 2010. <<<<

Hey New Day...

It would be funnier if you didn't disparage someones going to Fox news for a source if you weren't quoting from G (the man who made Obama) Soros's personal attack/propaganda site Media Matters...LOLOLOLOLOL

The Government is absolutely supposed to provide for the people. Maybe a better word would help: supply, accommodate, cater. Libertarian viewpoint aside, the government needs to do more than inforce [sic] laws. I expect my government to provide for taxes paid. Case in point: the levees in N.O. Now that the government did such a shabby job on the levees, I expect my government to provide those people with new homes. I expect my government to make sure (provide) everyone has health care. I expect my government to provide education for all. These are simple things that the United States signed onto with the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. It's a no-brainer that a country that touts its' religiosity (christaian) should act appropriately. We give lip service to Christianity as a nation, but the fact is Jesus never told a hungry child to bugger off cause his parents had difficulty buying food.

The Libertarian and Right Wing (The Great White Right) mindset would have us all at each others' throats for that one last scrap of anything that fell from the table of big business or the rich. The fact of the matter is big business does not come off of their money and neither do the rich. It has to be taxed.

Tax the hell out of big business and tax the hell out of the rich. Trickle down economics does not, nor has it ever worked. Milton Friedman's ideas must go by the way of the grave, just lie him. Obama was correct: The Right's ideas are old, and they have failed.

Correct: this isn't China, and the ones screaming about taking the country back are just incensed Obama is African-American.

Kaptain Krunch what about the preamble of the constitution do you disagree with?

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

I believe your issue is with the promote the general welfare what exactly does that means? I would think coming from a system of monarchies where the kings and queens of the times were responsible if their people were starving, or some great plague broke out, people looked to their government to solve those types of problems. I really don't think immigration was on the Fore Fathers minds when this great document was drafted actually the more undocumented you workers you had the better(slaves) for the welfare of the country.

I don't think it what the people want but rather than what the nation needs these two things are not always the same. Like the ending of Segregated schools, the majority of the nation wasn't for this, Kennedy was called a rat fink, the Nword Lover and many other names but it was for the good of the nation. So to say the government should what the people want sound good but people aren't always rational and operate out of a mob mentality when things are stirred up.

Social change must be forced it has never just happened by osmosis, there was always a catalyst that sparked it in the face of overwhelming opposition. To take care of the general welfare of the people like healthcare for eample is the American way whether or not the majority sees it that way or not. Truth is right. So do you want to take the Constitution back? Is that taking your country back?

Hey, ckaster: It may interest you to know that Media Matters was started by a recovering right winger who got tired of the lies. Perhaps you might become educated enough to join in his efforts.

I think the problem lies that he gave the country to George Soros and his Union buddies that got him elected.

Dear Mr. Mike: your source for that is....? I know, STTS.

ucg - go google "the general welfare". You will find out it does not mean what you think it means.

I keeps seeing signs from the "tea baggers" that they want to TAKE OUR GOVERNMENT BACK!

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Yes, they want to take their nation and their government back....to the Dark Ages.

I think the problem lies that he gave the country to George Soros and his Union buddies that got him elected.

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George Soros is a straw man. Look at the Koch brothers and Dick Armey if you want to see corporate and big money interference in elections far more than Goerge Soros ever THOUGHT OF... Armey and the Kochs squander millions to elect REPUBLICANS ... the astroturf Tea (Traitorous Enemies to America) Party is totally financed by Armey and the Kochs.

Take our country back, to some of us, at least, means putting government back where it belongs- in the hands of the people, the regular, ordinary, main street, make tough choices when necessary to make ends meet people. Our representatives have become a privileged elitist class with basically zero ability to relate to the people they were elected to represent. And in case you're confused, no, I have never attended a tea party rally, am not planning to support any tea party candidates (at least not intentionally) in tomorrow's primary or November's general election. I am just among the many who believe our government has lost touch with our people.

AS to the question of government providing for the people, I agree, there is an expectation of government providing, the question is what is the responsibility of the Feds, what is the responsibility of the individual states and what is the responsibility of the citizenship. From my perspective, it is the responsibility of the Feds to provide the services that cannot be efficiently managed by the states or the citizenship- infrastructure, defense and, to some extent, our financial security and educational goals. The Feds are also in charge of leveling the playing field regarding pursuit of happiness. Civil rights, etc, need to apply across state lines. Not an all encompassing list, by any means, but a good starting point. I think state and local governments are better able to provide for the social wellbeing of the citizenry. The needs of a Californian are often quite different than the needs of a Wisconsinite or a Louisianan. The citizens also hold a responsibility to do for ourselves. We are not guaranteed happiness, only the right to pursue it. What you get out of it is equal only to what you put into it. We have developed into an entitlement society where people expect equal outcome regardless of personal input. Not effective for any system. Yes, there are now and always will be those who require support to survive and they should be given the help they need but there are also many who have chosen not to do their part. It is not the responsibility of the government at any level to do for those who refuse to do for themselves. Put forth your best effort and we can help you pick up the slack (again, I believe that part is best left in the hands of the state and local organizations) but hand outs have never built a successful community let alone a successful nation.

newdayDAWNING10

Dear KaptainKrunch: Firstly, the word is "enforce". Aside from that, while I know those of you who listen only to Faux News would not be aware of this, President Obama has GREATLY improved border enforcement: Read: from Media Matters: Conservative Media Oblivious to Major Increase in Border Enforcement" July, 29, 2010.

Oh, newday, I will try to explain to you that you have not given us a valid url. Don't expect many of us to google "media matters", then go to the website and search for the article you mention.

I am also going to explain to you (since you obviously do NOT live in or near a border state, that President Obama is not doing much more than paying lip service to calm down the residents of California, Arizona, New Mexico and Texas.

Allow me to tell you that since I come from one of them (N.M.) the lip service ain't working.

The drug gangs and their minions (the illegal invaders that carry their drugs into the U.S.) are not being stopped by the paltry "effort" this administration is making.

I am not part of the "Conservative Media", but I am a citizen of New Mexico and the United States.

And I'm sorry for believing the big lies and how I voted in the last election. It won't happen again.

Dear Catmoves: I am a native Californian, from San Diego, which by ALL measures is a border town. What is true about the border is crime is down, the urban legend is that it isn't. You might be wise to not think that you are the only one that has experience of the border. Since you seem unfamiliar with the internet, all you have to do is use Google with the title of the article. K?

Yeah they got the calimexico boarder pretty well locked down but it is still wide open in Arizona and and New Mexico you condecending little twit. K?

Sorry, Gollie, but you are wrong, border violence is down. And I am not condescending, I am patronizing, though someone like you would find that a subtle point.

I grew up with a mother who was registered democrat and a father that is a registered republican. In my house one was not considered superior to the other and I was taught that it was a simply a differing of opinion and to respect that. I myself am a registered democrat who has voted republican if I felt the candidate was simply more qualified or I felt that they had the ability to help change whatever atmosphere may have been effecting us at the time of the election. But I do have to say that this new far right movement has been hard to stomach from a gal who's dad, while conservative, is sensible enough to want more substance than a bunch of people yelling "kill the witch"! I suspect you will start seeing a barrage of Republican like Bob Bennet and George Voinovich who just want to see their party restored to a more respectable and stately stance. I predicted this all along...the more stable and composed conservatives are going to get tired of their party being hijacked by the bat-sh!t crazy alarmists and start to make major moves towards restoring some dignity to their party. I certainly hope the damage control at this late state will start to change the opinion of those who have already written the party off as a bunch of crazy hate mongers and eventually it will revert back to a time where people opposed one another on substantive real issues and all politicians will have real solutions and intelligent rebuttals besides "because they are the enemy!"

Paula - thanks for a well stated post. Let's hope that the 'fringe' is ousted and more reasonable people are elected.

The same could be said for the left, maybe the libs make it more palatable but it is the same thing. They are no better and anyone who supports that position is just as well within their right.

Broadbrush stroking either side of this Congress is irresponsible and just what the left or right want from us. I know you said fringe and so did I but 1 bad apple...

Look at us, American's fighting with each other just like the clowns in Washington. Only because we don't share the same perspective for what has made America great or what some want American to be going forward.

footballer73 - yes, here we are fighting with one another. We cannot even have a civil word on a blog because we HATE the 'other side' so.

I phrased my post as I saw fit - 'fringe' - and you are taking exactly what I wanted you to take from it. We have a left wing and a right wing fringe that are driving the rest of us nuts with their CONSTANT bickering.

When are we Americans?

When will Americans start to HELP Americans for the greater good of ALL Americans?

OK, I'll play along. President Obama and people like NewDay are gone.

So... what is replacing people like NewDay, myself and President Obama?

What ideas do you have to HELP America? What is the new government going to DO to move America forward?

We haven;t heard any ideas from the people who want the keys of the government. Heck, we have Sen. Bennett TELLING us that if we DO hand over the keys of the governement to these people, they HAVE NO IDEAS.

So, will this be the case of trying to figure out what you wantto do AFTER you get the keys?

Will this be a case of a person with no drivers license getting a Ferrari, and not knowing how to put the car in 1st gear, stripping the gears rendering the Ferrari useless?

I guess we will see, won't we?

Thompson, Mid terms always go to the minority but as usual, you twist this FACT to lead the right winger robots to believe that a low turnout election where the seniors (who have no where to go and all day to do it) are the only ones that vote means that your desired one party government has begun.

I'll concede the house and maybe the senate to the GOP in midterms. I simply cannot wait to see if they have the guts to implement the ridiculous policies they ran on. Abolish SS, get rid of MediCare, trash unemployment compensation, force christian prayer in schools, abolish the ERA, abolish the laws protecting the disabled, allow businesses to discriminate,teach fairy tales in science class, give big business even more loopholes and ways to screw it's customers. Ooh, the list of "slogans without a thought" just goes on and on. I can't wait for this new country you right wing lunatics talk about. But talks cheap. Next year it will be time for YOU and your pals to put up or shut up. Then we'll see how many confused seniors still beat the drum when the GOP takes away their SS - or is that all just a lie to get elected?

M Thompson,

Positive change to what? This current lot of Republicans have offered nothing new, they are advocating for the same policies that brought us to the point of today. Granted the Democrats have not helped either and let us not forget how this mess started, 2 unfunded wars and tax cuts and uncontrolled spending all brought to us by the W administration and this current lot of Republicans.

I again ask positive change to what? The Republicans have done nothing positive but only add to the misery of the American public by their grand standing of NO and obstruction. They have proven time after time that they side with large corporations and back tax cuts for the rich on the premise that will create jobs. Let's look back at that and see just exactly what jobs did the previous tax cuts for large corporations and the very wealthy brought us---most of the manufacturing corporations moved their plants to overseas locations, the very wealthy became even more rich and their CEO's got very lucrative bonuses and yet we still had plant closures and more jobs lost.

This budget crisis did not start when President Obama was sworn into office, most people have had a bought with amnesia because they sure have forgotten how this mess began and who shares the blame.

Remember W could have vetoed spending bills while in office when the Republicans controlled the government but did nothing

Again I ask positive change to what?

Please show us where those are actual policies being considered by anyone from either the Republican leadership or Tea Party Movement? That is more fear mongering and fairy tale idiocy from the left. You drank too much of the Kool aid and got wasted...

MThompson - and just where do you think we are going? Nowhere! Actually I'll be here as long as God lets me live and I'll always vote against every republican in every election!

JIm1000 you are DILLUSIONAL!!!!! What a fruit cake. No wonder Obama was elected with such pathetic lies spread by the likes of you. Open your eyes, open your ears, let the light in....The republicans are Americans, just like the Democrats and independents are Americans. We all want what is best for this country and it's (legal) citizens.....The problem is the far leaning Left nut jobs and the Far leaning right nut jobs.....we need balance and common sense and I for one believe that is what November will bring. Regardless of whether they are with the Tea party, republican, dem, or independent. You have to admit, honestly, that the path Obama and his administration has taken this country is breaking it's back. It's time to bring him back to reality....to slap him out of his drunken daze of power and get him to realize his policies an ideals of spending and spending is killing those of us who work for a living.....

It amazes me the number of times I see the slanderous remark that Tea Baggers, Faux news etc, etc.....Aren't we all on MSNBC? Most people get their information from many sources, not just one. At least they should....You should actually look at the BBC and other foreign news as well. The rest of the world doesn't feel as warm and fuzzy about Obama as you would like to believe. It's time to quit playing make believe and get back to work fixing this gosh awful mess this Democratic Congress has made....almost 4 years for them and 2 for Obama....I've seen enough!!!!

To all the aforementioned "lost liberals souls", you folk bought into a "Hope and Change " policy that had no substance at all. This "program" was presented by a man with no substance and no experience. You will now see real "change" by a party of substance. The majority of Americans see the liberal policies and programs DO NOT WORK! Like you all said, after the Messiah was elected, and we profess now, we won -deal with it! BETTER TIMES ARE AHEAD!

Really MThompson? Other than hatred for President Obama, exactly what are the Republicans running on?

newday- Same old liberal rhetoric. I and the rest of the country, hear the party stating that ALL LIBERAL LEADERSHIP is governing incorrectly. ND, your attitude and lack of gravitas, are representative of your leaders(Pelosi,Reid and Obama) non understanding of Americas needs or WANTS! (Obamacare?) Go away with some grace and quit WHINING!

So interesting MThompson, that when I ask you a serious question, all you can come back with is an attack. Let's try it again: other than hatred for President Obama, what are the Republicans running on?

I'll take that softball...nobody hates anybody, that's just rhetoric...this is an anti election just like 2006 and 2008 only the voters are voting AGAINST the democrats this time.

2006 was about voting AGAINST the republican policies and W

2008 was about voting against the past administration and their many failures...

2010 is about voting against the democrats because they are in charge and things are not good

If things don't improve by 2012, they'll be voting out whoever they see as being in charge then...

When the people are unhappy with the current state of affairs they invariably "vote the bums out"...

Get it now?

poly sci 101

Good rant dangerfield, but I'll ask again for newday. What are the republicans running on? Or are you saying their running on just throughing the bums out?

Good rant dangerfield,

Mo, Not such a wise-guy eh, when it comes to this challenging language of ours...:)

First;

They're is "they are" their is "belonging to them"

Next;

a "rant" is

To speak or write in an angry or violent manner; rave.
v.tr.
To utter or express with violence or extravagance: a dictator who ranted his vitriol onto a captive audience.

n.

1. Violent or extravagant speech or writing.
2. A speech or piece of writing that incites anger or violence: "The vast majority [of teenagers logged onto the Internet] did not encounter recipes for pipe bombs or deranged rants about white supremacy" (Daniel Okrent).

How can one person get so many things wrong is so short a post?
You may also recognize your reflection in the definition of "rant"..believe me everyone else will...:)

Whub, Whub, Whub!!!

Or are you saying their running on just throughing the bums out?

And that is so OBVIOUSLY what I am saying, that it almost goes without saying

See 5.2 for the answer of what the Republicans are running ?for? or is it against. That is what they want. I have heard it said on TV many times.

Dangerfield- STTS

Nice try on your next (rant) dangerfield, I think you even confused yourself.:)

BTW: I had it right. I know the English language confuses you but you'll catch up later.

Not hard to tell when I hit a nerve with you dangerfield, take a deep breath you'll get over it.

For your information my dictionaries meaning of rant is speaking loudly and wildly, which is what you do all the time. Game set and match dangerfield, see you tomorrow.

Whub, whub whub! (poor, poor Mo...) This is so embarrassing for you, even if you are blissfully oblivious to why...

Wow! extra points here for misusing "dictionaries"...you really are funny. I just hope for my sake that you're not sixteen and I'm doing this to a child...

How many books did you consult for your definition? I guess it was many...(you probably don't get this)

Mo declares victory and retreats! lol

...you HAVE a dictionary? (this is the singular)Please get someone to help you copy the words correctly next time.

Lets say you had 10 of them. What would you call them? Your_______?

Let's say you wanted to tell me what the definition of a word was in your dictionary? How would you complete this sentence;

My _____— definition is hard for me to understand, as my reading comprehension is limited.

They're, is "they are" "Their, is" belonging to them...learn them, know them, use them so you don't look like an illiterate next time you attack me, OK?

Maybe you should listen! People from all parties are upset and disenchanted....but you dismiss their reasons and ignore them. Not for much longer!

Babina -

Awesome clip – or clips, as I watched another one there from the "Restoring Honor" rally as well. They bring to mind a line from one of my favorite movies that I just saw again over the weekend, "A Time to Kill". In it, a young inexperienced lawyer (Matthew McConnaughey) is involved in a highly charged case involving race in Mississippi and is on the verge of losing. Just before the climactic scene, he turns to his wise old mentor (Donald Sutherland) for help and sadly admits his shortcomings, saying "I can't be you, Lucien". To which Sutherland's character – who is now a degenerate, washed-up, disbarred alcoholic – replies "Don't be me – be better than me".

The reason I hear over and over for people supporting the likes of Palin or Jan Brewer or now Christine O'Donnell in Delaware is that "they're just like us". Sorry, but if I wanted someone just like me running the country – well, I'd run for office myself. I want someone who's way, way, better than me – which is why I campaigned so hard for Barack Obama in 2008. Was he – is he? - super-human? No, of course not – though he would have to be in order to single-handedly solve issues as complex as the economy he was dealt, the healthcare crisis, two wars, the gulf oil disaster, and immigration reform in less than two years. But then, I wasn't looking for someone super-human, just someone who was better than me. And during the long campaign, the afterglow of the election, and the glory of the Inauguration, I gradually convinced myself that I wasn't alone – that America wanted this as much as I did.

But I was wrong. So very, very wrong. No, not in my vote, and certainly not in my efforts during the campaign. I'd do both again without hesitation. No, I was wrong in believing that the rest of America wanted someone better than us. This was, after all, the same America that elected George W. Bush – twice – because he was "just like them" – a guy you could have a beer with - while Al Gore came off as a pompous, condescending, elitist stiff. Ditto John Kerry four years later. I was so thrilled that in 2008 we finally seemed to be raising our expectations instead of lowering them.

Regardless, America woke up on 1/21/09 and suddenly saw a President who was not just like them – and I'm NOT talking about race, because I still firmly believe that diversity is sweeping America faster than most of us realize. No, for the first time in years, America saw a president who was smart, focused, and capable of comprehending complex issues – while an increasing number of us are ignorant and proud of it, have the attention span of three-year-olds, and can only debate issues when they're reduced to media talking points and buzz words. They saw a President who (unlike the past eight years) could speak flawlessly and eloquently, and were somehow threatened enough by that to attribute it to his use of a teleprompter – albeit the very same teleprompter used by every president since it was invented - rather than dealing with their own inability to spell, use basic grammar, and string two coherent sentences together. In short – and again, putting race aside – they saw someone who was "not like them", and rather than being inspired to follow his example and work to improve themselves, they took the easy way out and sought instead to bring him down to their level by attacking his name, his birth, his perceived religion, and his patriotism – all because he was "not just like them".

Don't believe me? Go back and read the posts here or on any other political site for the last two years. Look at the new "stars" America is embracing – from Sarah Palin to all the posts staunchly defending Jan Brewer's debate debacle, if there is one common theme to the inexplicable support for these new icons, it's that "they're just like us". Not only do we no longer demand excellence in our leaders, we revel in their lack of it. Who cares if Sarah Palin can't explain the Bush Doctrine or name a newspaper she reads, or if Jan Brewer or Sharron Angle can't responde coherently to simple questions from reporters or their opponents? It's more important somehow that they're "just like us".

Well, America, it looks like you could get your wish this November. You're poised to entrust your very future – not to leaders, or role models, or standard-bearers of what used to be American excellence in education and work ethic, but to a bunch of people you're convinced are "just like you". Be careful what you wish for, though. Me? Well, I guess I'd still rather vote for a candidate who would heed Donald Sutherland's advice.

Don't be me. Be better than me.

JoAnne.... I'm standing up, clapping, saying BRAVO... That was well though out and to the point. They're trying to give the car keys back to the teenagers.. I want to hear what they say when their lack of a plan doesn't work..

By all means...Don't be me..be better than me.

JoAnne, I agree with SmokeEm. Bravo on your post.

SmokeEm - I am with you on your point. What WILL the GOP say when their lack of a plan DOESN'T work?

Will there be wailing and gnashing of teeth?

Will there be excuses galore?

Charges of 'it's not OUR fault'?

Inquiring minds want to know.

I am more interested in finding out why we are giving the keys to the teenager(s) in the first place.

Excellent Post! I hope other take the time to read it. It's a very good read. I was wondering how Ronald Reagan could be applauded with a BA in Theatrics from a no name institution and Barack Obama a Harvard Law graduate be denigrated so much. That explains it people are looking for someone as dumb as they are, and resist anyone trying to be better. Again great post.

JoAnne,

Well written, but sad post...You seem to have a self-worth problem. See I don't think any of these politicians are "better" than I am. Nor do I think thier "vision" is better. You might want to take off the rose colored glasses then you might be better prepared to understand what both parties are doing to America.

I see it on these posts all the time...Republicans are for the rich...when Democrats get just as much from the "evil" corporations, big banks, big oil etc. BP was Obama's biggest donor btw along with Goldman Sachs. Do you really think they are donating to him because he is "better"?

Babina asked "what policies" of Obama's we didn't like...

How about his foreign policy? Bow down and talk light around the dictators. Anyone seen any improvement in Iran (almost have nukes...within a year by State Dept), North Korea (sunk a S Kor boat...got a wrist slap or less, still working on Missile Del system and nukes), Russia pretty much ignores us, China just buying more debt of ours.

HCR...lets face it, you might not want to call Obama out on it, but it was a fiasco. He stated very clearly in numerous interviews that the HCR Mandate was NOT a tax. Now his justice department is saying it is a tax in court to justify it's passage. So was he lying to get it passed? If so doesn't that bother you? He said it wouldnt cost us any money "deficit neutral" right? But it isn't and when questioned recently because costs are still going up...his response "well, we knew it wasnt going to be cheap because you can't add 20 million to the rolls with no costs" so again, he lied...do you care????? He said it would be on C-span...all of it. It wasn't, just a bit, not all the backroom/late at night/only Democrat stuff that resulted in special deals for some states. But because he is "your" guy you don't care about that do you?

NASA...Our guilding light program. A program and industry that gave us so many advances in technology. Close down space missions unless we pay for and get rides with the Russians...must make us proud now.

For all of you that practically hung Bush in effigy over the loss of freedom with his program to listen in on terrorists... Have you actually read just a few of Obama's policies and directives dealing with Immigration? Or coming from the FCC on communication/internet? Or Justice dept? or back to HCR with the Mandate, Obama saying it wasnt a tax and then trying to justify ot afterwards by saying it is...A tax because you are living?

Well, I guess I'd still rather vote for a candidate who would heed Donald Sutherland's advice.

Don't be me. Be better than me.

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Canadians like Donald Sutherland are pretty wise. Donald Sutherland's father in law was Tommy Douglas, the Father of the Canadian universal single payer health care system. Donald Sutherland married Tommy Douglas's daughter Shirley Douglas., Because of Tommy Douglas, we have far better health care than you Americans have. Tommy Douglas was voted the "Most Admired Canadian" for giving us the best health care system in the world, light years ahead of what Americans have.

Right on, ckaster.

babina

I am stunned at the complete inability of any of these teabagging individuals at these events to articulate what they are so angry about, what honor is lost, what Obama policies they don’t like and why, etc.

Now that's strange. The three "Tea Party" meetings I have been at have had speaker after speaker stating what they feel is not being done to protect America, what kind national pride we, as Americans, should show to the world and our countrymen.

The list of Obama policies that are harming us as a nation are discussed (and cussed) again and again. We hear different points of view and I have actually sat in at a roundtable discussion of some the Administrations problems and failures, etc., etc.

So, really, I wonder where you get your information from? MSNBC?

The mere fact that Sen. Bennett had shackles in the first place should give EVERYONE a clue as to what the GOP is doing to good, decent representatives who are moderate in their ideaology.

The mere fact that Sen. Bennett is warning America about his own party should give EVERYONE a clue as to what to expect if the GOP and/or Tea Party takes over Congress.

And America wants to vote in THESE people as their government?

God HELP America for their stupidity.

The mere fact that Democrats are running away from thier Party and President should tell YOU and EVERYONE what to expect if we keep THEM in power.

Democrats not even mentioning thier "supposed" accomplishments from the past year.

Democrats not even mentioning thier Party in their adds

Democrats, except in the pure demo areas not wanting the President to come support them on the campaign trail.

America was stupid to fall for the "Hope and Change" slogan...they are finally waking up. 2010 and 2012 will be the result of the awakening. Bye Bye Dems...

ckaster - I would not be so quick to dismiss the Dems.

The most telling part of this whole saga is that Sen. Bennett of Utah is telling EVERYONE who will listen that handing the keys to his 'counterparts' is a MISTAKE. They have no ideas and nothing other than empty 'slogans'.

This man cannot be more succinct in WARNING America.

Do we care that Dems are NOT using the President's legislative agenda to further THEIR races? No. Thay do that at their own peril, which is their perogative.

However, overall, decisions have to be made.

Vote in the whackadoos that have no clue and not ideas or continue with the Dems, some of which have no spine.

America will make that decision on November 2nd.

pietro- yes, america will register it's decision on november 2nd, the decision has already been made. no more crazy liberal nonsense. no more obama!

M Thompson - OK, I'll play along. What ARE we going to be in for after November 2nd IF the GOP is successful?

Care to share?

IT seems that Sen. Bennett is tell all of us to NOT TRUST the GOP and/or the Tea Party - and he is a REPUBLICAN. If one of the GOP's own - who was thrown out on his ear by the Tea Party - is telling ALL of us that he is not 'SHACKLED' anymore and that 'We are on the threshold of REAL Problems', who should I believe?

Should I believe you or a former Senator?

Could it be that he sees the catastrophe that is coming?

WHY on EARTH would a Republican Senator make the statements he is making NOW - before the election - to all of US?

So, care to share what great things the GOP will be doing of they take over Congress?

Pietro: isn't it interesting that when asked for facts, MThompson disappears? Which goes back to my original point: Other than hatred for President Obama, the Republicans do not offer any positive agenda for America.

Yes, now that he's criticizing the republicans he's a STATESMAN...

Schumer Criticizes Obama Policy Toward Israel

Chuck must be right...and he's a statesman!

James Carville Blasts White House Again, This Time On Off-Shore Drilling Moratorium

STATESMAN! Everyone should listen...

Democrat Meek criticizes Obama administration’s ‘undiplomatic language’ to Israel

Statesman!

Democratic Rep. Yarmuth criticizes White House economic team for focusing on Wall Street...

Must be true and another statesman!

I hope you get the point...

Yeah, Dangerfield, we get the point - trying to change the subject, are you?

This thread is about trying to find out what the GOP will do - from M. Thompson, if he can answer the questions - if they get control of Congress.

Do we really care about people criticsizing the Obama Administration at this point? Could you have picked a DUMBER topic to 'pivot' to?

Pietro, ND- Neither one of you(like all libs) have the capacity to comprehend what is going on in America. Therefore, further discussion is useless. Just take solace in the fact, that America will be pulled from this abyss, and the Obama mess, when the newly elected Republican MAJORITY, takes over!

And there you have it, the final answer to those of you who are keeping score. Our friend MThompson cannot articulate anything except his hatred of President Obama and Americans who believe differently than he does. He can not come up with one idea that the Republicans have that will improve America...except that they are not Democratic, or black. People like this should frighten well meaning Americans.

Neither one of you(like all libs) have the capacity to comprehend what is going on in America. Therefore, further discussion is useless. Just take solace in the fact, that America will be pulled from this abyss, and the Obama mess, when the newly elected Republican MAJORITY, takes over!

WOW, M. Thompson. Is this the BEST you have?

Unfortunately, NewDayDawning's post has to stand, especially since we 'don't have the capacity to comprehend what is going on in America'.

Well, we definitely can comprehend that you have no clue.

We can definitely comprehend that you have no ideas.

We can definitely comprehend that you cannot even defend any policies of the GOP, which you espouse.

We can definitely comprehend that you are out of your league when it comes to debating.

So... we are all moving on... nothing to see here. STTS.

Pietro- No my friend, I am not out of my league. Rather, it is quite apparent by the scribblings of you and ND, that you both come to a battle of wits, UNARMED!

If you claim to be armed with facts, give us some MThompson: what vision does the Republican leadership have for this country? Otherwise, an objective observer would have to agree that neither you nor they have any idea where to take the United States to improve it. You are left with hate.

But, I am thinking you are right Pietro: it is time to STTS. We have given MThompson every fair chance to say what he sees the Republicans doing for rather than to America.

Pietro- No my friend, I am not out of my league. Rather, it is quite apparent by the scribblings of you and ND, that you both come to a battle of wits, UNARMED!

OK, M. Thompson, my friend, prove that I am coming to this debate unarmed.

All I asked you - 3 times - care to share what great things the GOP will be doing of they take over Congress?

I even shooed away Dangerfield when he was trying to change the subject.

The stage is yours. Prove that I come to a debate unarmed.

ND-The one vey clear FACT that you and Pietro ignore is, your ideals, agenda and leaders are OUT! You will experience what conservative republicans plan to do WITH America! Maybe if you both watched FOX news over MSNBC you would be more informed of the coming SUCCESSFUL agenda. You then, would not be looking for direction and answers on the vine. Don't forget to vote!

Poor MThompson, the answer is clear. You don't have an answer. Are you embarrassed about that? Do you often vote solely on party affiliation, having no clue what that party plans to do? They don't know either, and since the Republicans are solely responsible for putting this country in the ditch, I would worry about that if I were you. But, I asked MThompson questions for one reason. This is the problem that the "tea baggers" have. They are mad at something, but they don't know what, and are not educated enough to problem solve.

Well, M. Thompson, it looks like NewDaydawning is right - you got NOTHIN'.

I will defer to her words in her post.

I tried to give you the opportunity to 'get me', but you failed.

Oh well. maybe next time. it kinda sucks to lose a debate.

To an 'unarmed Liberal'.

JoAnne; The progressives get the blame because they were in charge of the 110th. Congress. This Congress took an already struggling economy and in only 20 months engineered the almost total collapse of it! We might also recall that one of the primary causes of the problems was also a progressive idea! Carters CRA!!!

When we couple this with the fact that this administration spent the first 18 or 19 months on the subversion of our healthcare industry and only now, just a couple of months before the election, are pretending to be interested in our small businesses and private sector growth, and it is clear to see that their real agenda has nothing to do with the health of those of us in the middle class, but is almost totally devoted to buying the votes of the 47% that pay NOTHING back into the system they leach off of!!!

I have to disagree with tedcrawford here.

The economy is now in much better shape than it was on innaguration. Now that was on the brink of collapse!

BTW: There have been several GOP presidents and congressese since Carter. Still nothign changed.

Boy, JoAnne, you are right, and the lengths the right will go to in avoiding responsibility amazes me.

Da Noid, didn't say I was on the Tea Party band wagon. I was just pointing out that the left voted for and got a slogan. It happens in all parties. People just do not want to admit that they fell for it.

BTW, the ideas of the Tea Party are pretty basic. Reduce Federal spending, fiscal responsibility, control how government spends are hard earned tax dollars. If you watched the news at some point you would have picked up on that. And, why don't more on the left care how much federal we leave our children and their children? Also, why doesn't the left seem to care about the way the federal government blows our tax dollars? The Republicans seem to have finally gotten the message in the last two years. What about the democrats?

Gary said, ". . . the ideas of the Tea Party are pretty basic. Reduce Federal spending, fiscal responsibility, control how government spends are hard earned tax dollars."

Gary, those are slogans and what is being asked for is detail. The question is not what but rather how are you going to accomplish those things.

Gary-302710

Do you really believe that the Republicans finally got the message on spending? They are still advocating tax cuts for the rich by claiming it will increase jobs. Have we not learned our lesson that tax cuts for the rich these days does not create jobs but rich people getting ludicrously even richer?

I'm all for lowering the deficit but I am not convinced this current lot of Republicans are ready for that challenge. Sen Boehner is a prime example of what we should be running away from, he represents nothing but NO and the rich until just this past weekend. This country needs help from both parties but neither are willing.

I am not even remotely convinced the Tea Party is the answer. The most vocal people representing this group are hatefilled people who use propaganda to promote their agenda. They do not represent less government, they represent the rich, the how much more money can I amass group.

I would support any group that would truly uphold the basic things you state the Tea party is for but this group has a lot of growing up to do and stop using fear to gain popularity. Just so you know my views of this movement do not come from one source but from many sources of the spectrum and definitely not political pundits . Any person that listens to just one source is marginalizing themselves and does great disservice to themselves.

I stand more to the middle of the spectrum not to far from it on either side. I have not been convinced that the Tea Party movement is even ready to become a real politcal party as the most vocal people of the movement do not really understand the Constitution they use catch phrases and the like to gain notority. I do belive this country could benefit from a third party but not this one.

Very well stated, Terry. Agree wholeheartedly!

Details Gary details, not slogans. You rail against slogans and then all you give is slogans.

Reduce Federal spending, How do we get there Gary?

fiscal responsibility, How do we get there Gary?

control how government spends are hard earned tax dollars, How do we get there Gary?

Give us something to believe in Gary not just tea bagger slogans.

Mr Fox, I think you got it right!

Yes russell fox working Americans do count, they just choose not to count by not voting, they convince themselves their too busy. If you want to count quit making excuses not to vote. It doesn't work just to blame (as you call them people who depend on government) for all your problems, if they vote, their taking control of their interests, you on the other hand are not, your just complaining about them setting the agenda.

sure we need a third party

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Canada has four parties who elected MPs (Conservative, Liberal, New Democrat, Bloc Quebecois) and the Green Party ran candidates in most constituencies but elected none.

It should be noted that Canadian Conservatives are more like Blue Dog to middle of the road Democrats than they are like Republicans, let alone American Conservatives or Tea Baggers.

John Murphy - i have to say I was a bit surprised when Canadians elected Stephen Harper.

And when IS the Bloc Quebecois going to seceed? They have been threatening that for YEARS.

Frank to respond to your statement about President Obama not having answer and neither does Boehner. I agree with you that and on your premise that both sides need to work together on our problems but even with that I believe its a shot in the dark as to what works. Its like a doctor they only practice medicine because they don't know what will happen if they prescribe you a medication. Its a best guess scenario Voltaire once said The art of medicine consists in amusing the patient while nature cures the disease. That's what Washington does to the masses.

In Jan 2007 democrats took over congress, the unemployment rate was 4.6%. Democrats were so incompetent that in less than three years it was over 9.5% and has hovered there for over a year now, with no end in sight. In fact it is projected to go above 10% next year.

Voters were promised fiscal responsibility, bi partisanship, and health care reform. They were lied to on all counts and now they will pay the price. Do you honestly prefer 9.6% unemployment as far as the eye can see and trillion dollar deficits year after year? I'd prefer 4.6% unemployment and deficits one fifth as much as the democrats disaster.

Well, "Valhalla," how can you call non-bi-partisanship a "lie"? You right wingers pull that word out constantly, and it's kind of funny, when you just LOVED the lyingest administration, ever.

Maybe (obviously) President Obama was naive in thinking the cons would put country first. They won't. It doesn't make the President a liar, and I might mention that we wouldn't have "trillions" in deficits if we hadn't invaded a non-threatening country. And health care? Who's big red foot is up that idea's backside? But that's all lost on you guys. Nasty, stupid facts!

So go ahead - drive the country the rest of the way into the ground. Make dimwits like Palin and liars like Whitman your guiding lights -I don't have any kids.

You forgot one John. Obamas Waterloo. Jim DeMint.

nycguy

It is going to be so sweet when the Tea party leads the charge in tossing out all these Demoncraps and union hacks from office..........real Americans will be heard from and these socialist posers will be banished.

Define real Americans without using Fox Noise's insane Hannity's and Frank Lutnz words; please.

The last I checked the Great, Great, Great American, Sean Hannity, ripped his own charity for children of Fallen War Victims off. Imagine that, the children of war victims of all people!!

Beverly- real Americans are people who work hard, obey the law and don't stir up class warfare or expect other Americans to pay their way for them while they sit on their arse and complain. In Chicago you are owned lock, stock and barrel by the union hacks and corrupt politicos and you have been for decades. I can't help it if you have a problem with Hannity......I am pretty sure he has donated more money to charity than all the Chicago crooks put together, ask your future Mayor Rahm Emanuel how much money he donated last year.......LOL

nycguy

Beverly- real Americans are people who work hard, obey the law and don't stir up class warfare or expect other Americans to pay their way for them while they sit on their arse and complain. In Chicago you are owned lock, stock and barrel by the union hacks and corrupt politicos and you have been for decades. I can't help it if you have a problem with Hannity......I am pretty sure he has donated more money to charity than all the Chicago crooks put together, ask your future Mayor Rahm Emanuel how much money he donated last year.......LOL

Thanks for the definition. However, the Tea Baggers are accepting the entitlements they so bemoan.

Corrupt politicos? Please

How about these few on the current list of corrupt republicans not from Chicago:

Former House Majority Leader Tom DeLay and lobbyist Jack Abramoff.

Captain Orange John Boehner, wannabe Majority house leader passing out campaign checks from the tobacco industry to members on the House floor at a time when lawmakers were considering eliminating a tobacco subsidy. Or his meeting with Lobbyists at the golf courses; in fact most of the lobbyists say they have access to him without evening being on the golf course.

Dick Cheney's tax shelter in Cayman Island, Ugland House a flophouse for thieves and cheats like himself and his Haliburton .

HEY, it’s a POST OFFICE BOX, a scam.

http://havenworks.com/world/cayman-islands/

Ding Bat crazy Republican Rep. Michele Bachmann, so rightfully called by Truthdig "Welfare Queen" for being the recipient of about a quarter of million bucks in government handouts. Bachmann family farm, managed by her father-in-law until his recent death, received $251,000 in farm payments between 1995 and 2006. LOL-- she has the audacity to accuse President of Obama socialism and the re-distribution of wealth; looks like she got her share.

Brittany Spears watcher, Republican House Minority Whip Representative Eric Cantor, who was reported by the Wall Street Journal that Cantor bets against U.S. government bonds. According to his 2009 financial disclosure statement bought up to $15,000 in shares of ProShares Trust Ultrashort 20+ Year Treasury ETF .

Lying corrupt Rudy Giuliani -- claimed “he spent as much time, if not more, at the site and; was exposed to the same health risks as workers”. Yet it took a deputy fire chief to call his lying slanderous butt out. A deputy fire who spent months digging for his son at the site called Giuliani a liar and said "the only time he was down there was for Photo Ops."

Ding Bat crazy Republican Rep. Michele Bachmann, so rightfully called by Truthdig "Welfare Queen" for being the recipient of about a quarter of million bucks in government handouts. Bachmann family farm, managed by her father-in-law until his recent death, received $251,000 in farm payments between 1995 and 2006.

LOL-- she has the audacity to accuse President of Obama socialism and the re-distribution of wealth; looks like she got her share.

Serial adulterer, Newt Gingrich, who has problems with a commie threat Newt Gingrich perceived "secular-socialist machine as a” threat to our way of life way the President has handled certain issues. That is excruciatingly hilarious especially since he wrote his “Contract on America”; which Republicans defaulted on.

RNC Chair Michael Steele's buffoonery being idiotic as we have all seen and his little “Strip Club Scandal”

BTW:Michael Steele sent "slum love" to Republican Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal, another fraud, liar and photo Op-er. Probably Jindal would have preferred fried chicken and potato salad. LOL

Sounds like sour grapes from a koolaid dem........let me know when someone on your hate list actually breaks the law.....

Wade, you a clearly the reason we are in this mess. To blame everything on the democrats is so nieve and borders on ridiculous. Apparently you are one of those who only listens to slogans and simple solutions that don't exist.

Wade, go back to sleep. Let the grown-ups talk.

Wade

I'm voting Democrat. Anyone with a brain will too. Your mistaken as to who destroyed America. The GOP went wild with W in office. They knew Freddy and Fanny were going down. But they kept it going so their buddies could grab as much money as they could before it all crashed. Same with wall street. Now they want to change Social security so their buddies can grab that money. If your not wealthy, they don't care about you. If your unemployed, it's your fault. Just because they shipped your job overseas, doesn't mean your entitled to any compensation.

The Demos have all but destroyed America!

Yet, Wade, here YOU sit. If America really WAS destroyed, then we would have to band together to rebuild it.

Maybe you don't want to do that.

The fact of the matter is that America works because ALL of us pitch in to make it work.

The fact of the matter is that America is NOT destroyed because you are able to blog about it on here, the same as I am.

The fact of the matter is that you - nor I - are not standing in a soup line for food.

The fact of the matter is that we are still able to use our computers to argue inane points FREELY proves that America is not destroyed.

The only thing that is destroyed is your ideaology, and having to acknowledge your ideaology is a lie is a hard thing.

I feel for you.

Pietro- Why are you battling on all these fronts? Did you ever think that your points are inane, and people just find you and newdawn, a joke? You should strongly consider it!

Then why do you keep responding MThompson? I am still waiting for what the Republican plan is if they take control of Congress. Were you going to answer that question?

ND- "If they take control of Congress"? How can anyone possibly get through to you, when you don't even understand what is going on? All media outlets(even Dems in Congress are braced for it) are predicting the House change, yet you are still in denial. For someone as slow as you, here is the plan, attain a majority, then pass bills that will help not HINDER America. That is as detailed as we can be for liberal folk, like you! You will LIVE the Republican agenda, come January.

If you are so pleased with that MThompson, you can articulate it: other than hatred for President Obama, what is the Republican agenda for this country?

ND- Please identify to all on here, your PROFF that the Republicans ever stated they hate President Obama, or where in thier agenda it is shown, written or otherwise communicated.

Pietro- Why are you battling on all these fronts? Did you ever think that your points are inane, and people just find you and newdawn, a joke? You should strongly consider it!

M Thompson, I battle on all of these fronts because of the following:

1. I can

2. I want to

3. I am able to

What we are seeing, M. Thompson, is that you have nothing to refute what I am posting, even when I directly challenged you. If you find my posts inane, then that's fine. I can live with that.

The purpose of these posts is to debate issues and learn something. SOMETIMES you can sway opinions and sometimes you pick up some tidbits that may cause you to think.

I have learned a lot about YOUR politics, M. Thompson.

Much ado about NOTHIN'.

Are you serious? No, you can't possibly be...but I'll play along: Shall we start with Joe Wilson saying "you lie" in chambers during President Obama's state of the union? How about when Palin repeatedly tried to claim that Obama pals around with terrorists, one example being Oct.5, 2008? Shall we take a quick glance at Michelle Bachmann, MN's rather peculiar nutcase? In a American Conservative Union fundraising letter sent in late December, she claimed that "he (Obama) wants to annihilate us(Conservatives). In that same letter she referenced Obama's administration as a "gangster government". How many times a day do you hear Republicans using words like socialist or communist to describe President Obama and his policies? What about Newtie Gingrinch today, as reported on Scarborough's show talking about (paraphrasing)" Kenyon world view". I could go on, but you get the point, or you don't. Now, your turn, what is the positive agenda from the Republicans if they take over either house this fall?

Pietro, newdawn- Aside from being radical liberals, you both are pathetic. Not one point you have written, supports your thesis. Learn to live with the new agenda. Your leaders have lost the faith and trust of the people. Reread your last diatribes, do you really see any benefit to what you scribble. You people are fanatic in the rhetoric. Bottom line, America is sick and tired of liberal Democrats. The positive agenda(again) is the Democrats will not be in the MAJORITY. Again, learn to live with it, you lost. Your ideals and policies, have been proven WRONG for America, and the majority of the voters are telling you SO! This time they will buy the Steak not the Sizzle!

M Thompson - you can delude yourself all you want. All I asked was for you to name ONE thing that the GOP will do if they take over Congress and you cannot even do that. Even when challenged directly.

Not ONE thing.

And you think you are on the WINNING team?

Yeah... OK.

Moving along now.. nothing to see here... STTS

I hope all of you have picked up the lesson that MThompson has taught. He has no knowledge of any agenda by his beloved Republican party because it is what I have said all along: it is that people like MThompson cannot stand that an mixed race man, and to make it worse, a Democrat is President. Let me help MThompson out because Newt Gingrinch, Issa from CA and others have made clear what their agenda will be. It will be to issue as many subpoenas as they can against an elected lawful administration, to shut down the government, and to repeal those things that provide aid to the middle class. For all of you who think you want these people in charge, have a care. They are after YOU. But, MThompson, it was entertaining. I am never surprised when those who squeal the loudest have no idea what they are talking about. Thanks for playing along.

ND- Thank you for playing into our hand. Llike all liberals, you play the race card. In review of all the comments, one will see, that you ALWAYS refer to Obama and race, not me. As the country has seen through the ruse of your leaders, so have I, through yours. Again, your agenda loses. Remember to vote!

Good try MThompson, but no gold ring. You were given several chances to say what the Republican agenda was and you cannot do it. An objective observer, having read what you have written concludes that your objection to this President is party and race. Does that make me a racist for pointing that out? No, it makes me a pragmatist. Do look up the word.

ND-We don't NEED approval or a gold ring. Since we are a pragmatic party, not "Hope and Change" dreamers, or wanting to FEEL good! Again, accept your loss........................with some grace!

"..We don't need approval or a gold ring"... Yes you do MThompson, or you would not be trying to convince me that anything you write has value. While I am amused that you are so unable to write for yourself you must even copy the words that I use, you still have no point. And I suggest you look up the word pragmatic. You clearly do not know the meaning. But, I am off to saddle my horse, I will leave you to continue to reassure yourself that you are right.

ND- Maybe next time, you will come to the discussion, better prepared.

What a mental midget! You need to stop watching Keith Olberman and Chris Matthews and actually put on your tinking cap; assuming you have more than a little walnut up there? As for the party of "No"; you're darned right! We say no to Obamacare. We say no to the Marxist agenda that Obama and the left is trying to shove down our throats. We say no to the "hope and change" that is nothing more than psychobabble that you liberal lemmings gobbled up like pablum. We say no to more taxes, no to more government employees, no to more intervention by the government in the private sector, ......need I go on dimwit?

OK, J.H. Moore - you say NO to all of the things you've posted. We get that.

So what do you say YES to?

Here are a few things to say Yes to:

Yes to enforcing our existing immigration laws.

Yes to supporting states that want to help enforce existing immigration laws.

Yes to less government control and involvement in our healthcare.

Yes to less big government spending.

Yes to less entitlement programs.

Yes to lower taxes.

Yes to stopping out of control deficit spending.

Yes to creating/supporting private sector jobs, not government jobs.

Yes to keeping the power of the Federal Government from expanding.

Yes to repealing Obamacare.

Yes to respecting the rights of states and citizens over that of the Federal government.

Yes to securing our borders.

Yes to stop appeasing terrorist and their State sponsors.

Yes to stopping Iran from building nuclear weapons.

Yes to taking care of Americans first before supporting other countries.

Yes to getting more agressive in insisting upon both free and fair trade.

Yes to imposing sanctions on those coutries that abuse free trade by engaging in unfair trade.

Yes to returning our manufactuiring base here by policies that encourage business instead of drive it away.

KingK - OK , fair enough.

The question is this though - will this be the GOP agenda IF the GOP takes over Congress in November?

If the answer is YES, then you know that the GOP will be JUDGED on how well these goals are attained, correct?

It remains to been seen what the GOP will do. But one thing is sure,if neither the Dems nor the Repubs can get the job done then they will both be out. That is part of the reason the TEA party is making inroads in electing previously unknowns to take the place of former establishment Repubs. The establishment politicians on both sides need to stop catering to their core special interests groups and start listening to the everday citizens. Part of the problem Repubs had under Bush was that he went along with the big spending programs and idiotic policies set forth by the Dems controlling Congress. Instead of sticking to conservative economic principles. And Obama has excellerated the wild spending beyond all imagination. My question to you is that if the Repubs do go forward as I suggest above, how often will Obama be weilding the veto pen? And if he does are you prepared to vote him out in 2012? Or will you still be blaming Bush and the new scapegoat, Boehner?

And BTW, when are the Obama supporters going to hold him accoutable for the failure to engage in bipartisan politics, instead of the freeze out politics (read businessas usual) he has practiced since gaining office? Or do the Dems not care about all those campaign promises? Seems to me at least the Independents do!

Kevin - the first line of your post is the point - It remains to be seen what the GOP will do.

I am struck with the TRUST that people have in the GOP, given the track record over the past 18 months is not a pretty one. I am also struck by how, in my opinion, short-sighted people are concerning the GOP.

Have we forgotten that it was the GOP that got us into this economic mess in the first place? You can try and blame it on the Democratic Congress from 2007, but no one put a gun to President Bush's head for him to actually SIGN the bills into law. He did so on his own volition (probably with signing statements). So with that kind of track record - and a promise not to do that again - all is forgiven if you allow the GOP to take over Congress?

Whatever happened to giving the current Administration a chance to fix the problems? 18 months is enough time to fix 28 YEARS of problems?

The GOP and the Tea Party says YES. The Dems say NO. The independents? We are not sure about.

Granted, the Democrats have not been as forceful with their agenda as they could have been. As the Majority Party, they got through what they could, and the President signed the bills into Law. We still have grave economic issues in this country, and we are ignoring them for partisanship's sake. We are spending more now than ever before because our infrastructure is falling apart. Our roads are impassable. Our electric grid is a joke. We are beholden to countries that hate us for their oil, and we are paying them a kings ransom to get it.

When pressed for ideas, the GOP have none. The GOP supporters seem to relish the hatred they have for our President. The Tea Party people are not much better in their rancor. I really wonder what moderates think because they hav been bombarded for MONTHS by rancor, hatred and partisan sniping.

But you want to give the keys of the country back to the people who nearly bankrupted this country.

WOW.

OK, I'll play along. Let's just say that the GOP and/or the Tea Party take over Congress.

NOW there will be NO EXCUSE for NOT GETTING the PEOPLE's BUSINESS done. There will be no excuse for shortages and failing infrastructure. There will be no excuses at all because the GOP and/or Tea Party will be able to fix all that is wrong in America in 24 months.

Would that be a correct characterization?

If so, then the clock will start ticking from November 3rd. We will DEMAND that the unemployment problem be fixed in 1 year. We will yell and scream louldly and will want heads to roll if there is still a Federal Deficit after 1 year, and the Dems will stand by and do NOTHING while you fix all of our problems.

Is that what you really want?

That made me laught Forrest. Unfortunately for you, a bunch of us old boomers aren't going to just kick the bucket any time soon. Meanwhile, we'll work very, very hard to undo the brain washing that our education system has been so successful at with, apparently, the likes of you.

Unlike the democraps, I don't think those whom us boomers will elect actually believe that it takes a magic wand -- that's Gen Y thinking. We'll do it the way it's always been done. By working hard, and keeping to core values. That might mean getting rid of your entitlement programs, and actually requiring that people *earn* what they get. Would be rough, huh? Might even make you stop texting for a few minutes.