Minnesotans turn on T-Paw's WH ambitions

A day after outgoing Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty (R) issued an executive order aimed at blunting the federal health-care law -- which was interpreted as yet another sign that the governor is running for president -- a new poll suggests that Minnesotans aren't pleased with his White House ambitions.

Per the Minnesota Public Radio News/Humphrey Institute poll, 54% of likely voters in the state disapprove of his campaign swings outside of Minnesota.

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And when it comes to whether Minnesotans would vote for Pawlenty for president, a majority, or 53 percent, consider that unlikely. Even nearly one in four Republicans, or 23 percent, say they've be unlikely to vote for him.

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Possibly even more stinging for the governor is a question about who would make a better president among potential Republican competitors. Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney outpolls Pawlenty on that question, 45 percent to 32 percent. But Pawlenty easily beats former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, 59 to 24 percent.

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According to the poll Pawlenty's approval rating among likely Minnesota voters stands at 46 percent. That's low, but not as low as President Obama's 42 percent approval rating. Although Pawlenty is struggling with support in his home state, a plurality of respondents, or 37 percent, said they think Republicans are better able to handle the state budget than Democrats.

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What, Tiny Tim, the ultimate Tea Bagger, is shrinking again in his right wing, nut baggy, psycho talk and the polls? Hosanna in the highest.

Take that righties, people in the breadbaket know you're nuts and your leaders have succumbed to level of snake oil salespeople.

As far that harpy voiced Sarah is concerned, im my point of view, she'd do better on karaoke machines.

And don't forget that batsh!t crazy, Michelle Bachman who does nothing in her state but everything on a national level; including shooting assault weapons at armed and dangerous target practice.

How does that help you in Minnesota put food on the table? That's right looting does it.

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Reply#1 - Wed Sep 1, 2010 1:09 PM EDT

Good Afternoon Beverly:

Tim Pawlenty's ego is bigger than his brains. But on second thought; that's not saying much. Both are tiny...Tim

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#1.1 - Wed Sep 1, 2010 1:36 PM EDT
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It is very difficult for an unpopular governor to be elected as president. He could pull a James K. Polk and be elected without the beneft of his home state support, but I just don't see that happening for this governor.

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Reply#2 - Wed Sep 1, 2010 1:13 PM EDT

Well, well, well what a surprise (NOT). T Paw must think because his are the same initials as the Tea Partiers that they would somehow endorse him. The fact is T-Paw is a two bit pol and darn lucky he got where he is.

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Reply#3 - Wed Sep 1, 2010 1:16 PM EDT

Here is a little tidbit from the Liar Kings "I Have A Scheme" rally. Pawpawlenty doesn't stand a chance but like most of the other dopes of nope they don't have a chance either..lmao, from MMFA.

Flashback: Cons loved the smaller crowd estimates for Obama's inauguration

September 01, 2010 12:06 pm ET by Eric Boehlert

Yes, the hypocrisy is hard to miss here.

Conservatives are busy touting the size of Glenn Beck's "Honor" rally last weekend, claiming, as Beck does, that at least 500,000 people attended. But there is no official crowd count and in fact the only scientific attempt to tally the rally size was done by CBS, which hired an outside firm to estimate the crowd size:

To calculate attendance at the Beck rally, AirPhotosLive.com used what is called a surveillance aerostat balloon to take pictures from both above the event and closer to the ground. In the video above, which was provided by the company, you can see some of the images used to come up with a figure.

The firm concluded there were approximately 90,000 people at the rally and right-wing bloggers howled in protest. Of course, they didn't take issue with the science of the estimate. They just didn't like the results and so they whined. A lot.

In response to those complaints, Professor Stephen Doig of Arizona State University, a Pulitzer Prize winning journalist and crowd estimate expert who worked on the CBS crowd estimate, noted the irony in conservatives attacking his work today. The irony was that back in Jan., 2009, when Doig came up with a crowd estimate for Obama's inauguration, and the estimate (800,000) was much smaller than most other crowd estimates, conservatives loved Doig's work.

He writes:

I am amused to see that those who embraced my Obama inauguration estimate as soberly realistic are now attacking the Beck rally estimate, produced using exactly the same methods, as deliberately biased.

And sure enough, here was Newsbusters early last year specifically touting Doig's work in connection to his Obama inauguration estimate and suggesting news orgs that used larger crowd estimates for that event were (surprise!) liberally biased.

So to recap: When Doig estimated Obama's swearing-in crowd wasn't as large as other people claimed, Doig's work was held up as the unvarnished truth. But today, when Doig estimates Beck's Lincoln Memorial crowd wasn't as large as other people claimed, Doig's work is a joke.

Good to know.

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Reply#4 - Wed Sep 1, 2010 1:18 PM EDT


    #4.1 - Wed Sep 1, 2010 4:32 PM EDT
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    "... they think Republicans are better able to handle the state budget than Democrats."

    Is Michele Bachman from Minnesota?

    Think Progress:

    When the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act first passed last year, Gov. Haley Barbour (R-MI) was one of the Republican governors who grandstanded against accepting all of the money, and since then, he has continually criticized the Recovery Act and poo-pooed its substantial effects. “A lot of this is just crazy,” he said. “I’m better off not to get it.”

    Barbour was no more receptive to the $26 billion in additional state aid that was passed by Congress last month. “There is no justification for the federal government hijacking state budgets, but that is exactly what Congress has done,” Barbour said. But as it turns out, Barbour not only wants the money, he wants to save it, in order to make his budget look better next year:

    Republican Gov. Haley Barbour and a bipartisan group of Mississippi lawmakers are considering saving, rather than spending, one of the two pots of federal stimulus money Congress recently approved. Doing so could make it easier for officials to craft a state budget during the 2011 election-year session when most lawmakers are either seeking another term or running for higher office, and when Barbour – a potential 2012 presidential candidate – is wrapping up his final year as governor.

    Barbour is just the latest in a line of Republican governors — including Gov. Rick Perry (TX), Gov. Tim Pawlenty (MN), and Gov. Mitch Daniels (IN) — who criticize the stimulus while reaping its benefits and bragging about their fiscal stewardship of their respective states.

    Mississippi state Sen. Hob Bryan (D) said he “strongly objects” to Barbour’s proposed move. “Why on earth are we putting all this money in the bank at the bottom of a recession?” Indeed, Mississippi has had to make some severe cuts in its budget already, eliminate funding for mental health services and K-12 education, and lay off workers who staff juvenile justice facilities.

    Perry has also said that he will attempt to use the latest round of state aid for something other than Congress intended, while lawmakers in both California and Oregon have suggested that they’ll use federal education funding to simply plug holes in their budgets. But Barbour is planning to take this a step further, socking away funding meant to alleviate the pain of the Great Recession this year to bolster his own fiscal credentials next year.

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    Last week, House Minority Leader John Boehner (R-OH) gave an error-riddled address on his economic policy vision. Today — as a prebuttal to President Obama’s prime time address on Iraq this evening — Boehner tried his hand at national security policy.

    Leaving his perpetual confusion about foreign affairs aside, Boehner also used the speech to take another whack at Obama’s economic program, saying that the steps the Obama team took to pull the economy back from the cliff, including the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act, actively made things worse for military veterans:

    Today, as thousands of our warriors come home seeking to provide for their families and realize the American Dream they have volunteered to defend, they confront an economy that affords neither opportunities nor jobs. Veterans’ unemployment is now at 11 percent. That is why I have called on my colleagues in the Congress and the president to join me in supporting a series of immediate actions to end the ongoing economic uncertainty and help more Americans find an honest day’s work. ‘Stimulus’ spending sprees, permanent bailouts, federal mandates and government takeovers have failed this nation and have failed our veterans.

    It’s nothing new for Boehner to criticize the stimulus, despite it having helped save or create millions of American jobs and been a key factor in the U.S. avoiding another Depression. But it is something for him to place his criticism in the veterans affairs context, as his professed desire to repeal unspent stimulus funds would have a noticeably negative effect on veterans.

    The Department of Veterans Affairs was granted $1.8 billion in stimulus funding, all of which has been committed, and $916 million of which has been paid out. So canceling the unspent money would rescind nearly one billion in funds already designated to serve veterans.

    The projects funded by this money include renovating, repairing, and upgrading veterans’ hospitals across the country, including one in Boehner’s home state of Ohio. The money is also being used to improve claims processing units for veteran health benefits (by hiring more workers and upgrading equipment).

    The stimulus also provided $250 payments to disabled veterans and gave private sector employers a tax credit for hiring unemployed vets. Is Boehner willing to say that none of these steps were worthwhile, or to pull the plug on projects improving veterans’ facilities that are already planned and underway?

    Sadly, veterans affairs was one of the areas that came under the cutting knife, as those crafting the stimulus sought to get it under an arbitrary $800 billion to swing a few Republican votes. In fact, $2 billion for VA construction was thrown out entirely during the negotiations. And if he had his way, Boehner would take away the funding that is left.

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    “President Obama is attempting a triple play this week that eluded his predecessors over the past two decades: simultaneous progress on the most vexing and violent problems in the Middle East — Israeli-Palestinian peace, Iraq and Iran.”

    “Palestinian security forces arrested more than 250 Hamas members in an overnight sweep throughout the West Bank after the Islamic militant group claimed responsibility for shooting dead four Israelis ahead of new Mideast peace talks.”

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    Reply#5 - Wed Sep 1, 2010 1:46 PM EDT

    Great post Pat,

    Boehner is a joke as is the RNC since allowing their extreme fringe to take over. Wake me up when they are true convervatives again. Not just in name but in deeds as well. This taking from the poor and giving to the rich scheme of theirs all in the name of Christianity and the Constitution won't do for me. It is sad!

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    #5.1 - Wed Sep 1, 2010 2:03 PM EDT

    AnaBanana, your words: Boehner is a joke.

    No truer words spoken. Cheers to you.

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    #5.2 - Wed Sep 1, 2010 2:51 PM EDT
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    Great post Pat, hey libs, go to the Huffpo and look at the cable ratings, my gawwwd there are a bunch of stupid people in this great country.

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    Reply#6 - Wed Sep 1, 2010 1:51 PM EDT

    jomama72, I can tell immediately who watches Keith and Rachel and who doesn't when I speak to someone. It's a matter of informed v. uninformed. And it's not pretty.

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    #6.1 - Wed Sep 1, 2010 2:50 PM EDT
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    I have it on good authority, from most of the regulars, that the polls I have posted here do not mean anything, so I am surprised this one seems to matter at all to anyone other than Murray...

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    Reply#7 - Wed Sep 1, 2010 1:51 PM EDT

    To you dangerfield only polls that agree with you matter the rest are bias. BTW polls don't mean anything, just look back to 2008 most if not all were wrong. I can't believe so much emphases is put on daily polls, but I guess the pundits have to have something to rail about 24/7.

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    Reply#8 - Wed Sep 1, 2010 2:02 PM EDT

    Yep, Timmy is in some trouble here in MN. Timmy has delusions of grandeur, he is pretty sure that we love him, and that he will be elected President. Aside from the damage he has done here, he is a remarkably bad public speaker. It is going to be hard for him to get any traction with those who will run who actually have a personality. I am wondering if his goal is actually the Vice Presidential run instead? He may try to position himself for that, he clearly has no reasonable chance to be the nominee for President.

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    Reply#9 - Wed Sep 1, 2010 2:19 PM EDT

    This Date In History - Septemer 1, 1939

    The Invasion of Poland, also known as the September Campaign or 1939 Defensive War (Polish: Kampania wrzeĊ›niowa or Wojna obronna 1939 roku) in Poland and the Poland Campaign (German: Polenfeldzug) in Germany, was an invasion of Poland by Germany, the Soviet Union, and a small Slovak contingent that marked the start of World War II. The invasion began on 1 September 1939, one week after the signing of the Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact, and ended 6 October 1939 with Germany and the Soviet Union dividing and annexing the whole of Poland.

    The day after the Gleiwitz incident, German forces invaded Poland from the north, south, and west. As the Germans advanced, Polish forces withdrew from their forward bases of operation close to the Polish-German border to more established lines of defence to the east. After the mid-September Polish defeat in the Battle of the Bzura, the Germans gained an undisputed advantage. Polish forces then withdrew to the southeast where they prepared for a long defence of the Romanian Bridgehead and awaited expected French and British support and relief.[13]

    The Soviet Red Army's invasion of the Kresy on 17 September, in accordance with a secret protocol of the Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact, rendered the Polish plan of defence obsolete.[14] Facing a second front, the Polish government concluded the defence of the Romanian Bridgehead was no longer feasible and ordered an emergency evacuation of all troops to neutral Romania.[15]On 6 October, following the Polish defeat at the Battle of Kock, German and Soviet Union forces gained full control over Poland. The success of the invasion marked the end of the Second Polish Republic, though Poland never formally surrendered.

    On 8 October, Germany directly annexed western Poland and the former Free City of Danzig and placed the remaining block of territory under administration of the newly established General Government. The Soviet Union immediately started a campaign of sovietization of the newly acquired areas. This included staged elections, the results of which were used to legitimize the Soviet Union's annexation of eastern Poland. In the aftermath of the invasion, a collective of underground resistance organizations formed the Polish Underground State within the territory of the former Polish state. Many of the military exiles that managed to escape Poland subsequently joined the Polish Armed Forces in the West, an armed force loyal to the Polish government in exile.

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    The Katyn massacre, also known as the Katyn Forest massacre, was a mass murder of Polish nationals carried out by the Soviet secret police NKVD in April-May 1940. The number of victims is estimated at about 22,000, the most commonly cited number being 21,768.

    All the above is from Wiki

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    As we all know, the Soviets became our allies during WWII, even though Stalin was a monster. FDR did not want to believe that the Soviets were behind the Katyn Forest massacre. He thought/hoped it was Germany. And when he realized from the evidence that it was the Soviets, did he say so publicly? I don't think so. FDR's aim was to win the war, and needed the Soviets' help. No one knows what FDR would have said if he had an oppportunity to write his own book on WWII.

    President Obama is attempting during his time in office to end two wars. It would do no good for him to sit in the Oval Office calling out President Bush in the most vicious way possible. It would have been unpresidential. President Bush doesn't do it to President Obama, although former members of his Administration do, daily.

    Thank you Rachel and Keith for all the credit you gave the Bush Administration. They deserve every single one of them.

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    Reply#10 - Wed Sep 1, 2010 2:24 PM EDT

    Did Herbert Hoover caused the depression of 1929? Was he hated once he left office? I know I never heard a nice thing about him growing up. During the Cuban Missile Crisis, President Kennedy wanted to keep all former presidents informed on what was going on during these very critical days. Here (if it works) is a recording of a telephone call JFK made to Herbert Hoover with his attempt to keep Mr. Hoover in the loop. JFK calls him "Mr. President". Such respect. The way a President should behave toward former Presidents.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bs7my3gUx54

      #10.1 - Wed Sep 1, 2010 3:31 PM EDT
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      A few quotes I found by Elbert Hubbard. (And by the way, I googled them so they must be true according the right-wing ding-bats)

      "A conservative is a man too cowardly to fight and too fat to run."

      "Christianity supplies a Hell to people who diagree with you, and a heaven for your friends."

      "There is no freedom on earth or in any star for those who deny freedom to others."

      "We awaken in others the same attitude of mind we hold toward them."

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      Reply#11 - Wed Sep 1, 2010 2:38 PM EDT

      Very true in a general sense, sorta...

        #11.1 - Wed Sep 1, 2010 3:22 PM EDT
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        Rick Perry.........Biggest joke in Texas.........LOL!!!!

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