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Subscribe to RSSAt this weekend’s “Restoring Honor” rally, Tea Party devotees will descend on the city they love to hate: Washington D.C.
Master of Ceremonies Glenn Beck and the "Restoring Honor" event organizers say that the rally is “a non-political and non-partisan event” that should not be characterized as a “Tea Party rally.” But appearances by Beck and Sarah Palin ensure that many or most of the attendees will be people who share the conservative small-government principles that unite Tea Party fans.
But just who makes up the Tea Party? We dug deep into the crosstabs of the latest NBC/WSJ poll conducted by Peter Hart and Bill McInturff to learn a little more about this group - a little less than a third of registered voters - who say they're interested in voting for Tea Party candidates.
It is true that Tea Party supporters are mostly white. According to the NBC/WSJ poll, 84 percent of registered voters who said they may be interested in voting for the Tea Party were white, while about 6 percent were black, and 3 percent were Hispanic. (But it’s also worth noting that the dominance of white Tea Party supporters is no more dramatic than the racial breakdown for the GOP as a whole; in the same sample, 90 percent of respondents who classified themselves as Republican were white.)
Tea Party voters also tend to be older. Six in ten of the Tea Party voters in the poll were over 45 years old.
About 60 percent of those who said they were interested in voting for Tea Party candidates do not have a college degree. That’s about the same as registered voters at large. About 40 percent reported an annual household income of over $75,000 – making them a tad more affluent than the rest of the public.
Tea Party voters do tend to identify as Republicans, and they are closely aligned with the rest of the GOP on dimensions like their disapproval of Barack Obama and their view of the direction the country is headed. But just because most of these voters are Republicans, it doesn't mean that Republicans are big fans of the Tea Party. Almost half of self-identified Republicans say they are neutral on the Tea Party, have negative feelings about it, or are unable to say what they think about it at all.
So how are Tea Party voters different from your garden-variety GOPer?
One hint might be their job security. A quarter of Tea Party voters in the August survey said they are “very dissatisfied” with their job security, compared to only 16 percent of Republicans overall.
They’re also more likely to be dissatisfied with the current state of the Republican Party. Thirty-six percent of poll respondents who are interested in voting for Tea Party candidates say they have negative feelings about the GOP. (Only about one in five generic Republicans say the same.)
They're not all Republicans. Hart and McInturff found that about nine percent of their May sample represented independents and Democrats who view the Tea Party positively. These Americans are particularly disaffected; more than 20 percent of this group did not vote in the 2008 election, and more than half believe that the country's political and economic systems put them at a disadvantage.
And, they’re energized. Seventy-two percent of Tea Party voters say they’re very interested in the November election. (For Republicans overall, it’s a handful of points lower at 68 percent.) Those numbers spell trouble for Democrats, half of whose voters are lukewarm about the election.
Of course, the folks who are taking the time to travel to Washington D.C. for the “Restoring Honor” rally won’t be exactly representative of all Tea Party voters. But you can bet a lot of reporters will be asking questions of the enthusiastic attendees of Beck’s much-publicized event.
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Wow!! The majority of tea-partiers are old, white, dissatisfied, and republican.
Who would have guessed that??????
Thirty-six percent of poll respondents who are interested in voting for Tea Party candidates say they have negative feelings about the GOP. (Only about one in five generic Republicans say the same.)
Tea Party my be the only group who can save you from the Marxists and their Mosque problems with the Constitutionality of using Tax Payer money to build a Religious Building. I have a pron=blem with that.
You do realize the mosque is privately funded, right?
You also realize that the democrats are nowhere near marxists, right?
You are the CLASSIC teapartier that educated people mock and demean.
You should stop typing in defense of your group. As Mark Twain said "It is better to stay quiet and have people assume you are a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt"
The so called tea party is good at putting blame rather than solving problems. To them, our problems are caused by Marxists (which they assume are any Democrat, let alone the proper definition of the word), illegal immigrants, big government (whatever that means), homosexuals, Muslims, and pretty much anyone that Glenn Beck tells them to be afraid of today.
So obviously the answer according to them is to treat those groups of people differently than everyone else.
We are not descended from fearful men, and we're not going to be afraid just because a group of people say we should be. The far right in this country will say and do anything to get people to vote against their own economic interests.
And for those who do, well, I guess you deserve what you get.
Kind of sounds like our country's founding fathers...hopefully we are on the brink of another revolution.
Fact of the matter is.. when you start to staple tea bags to your forehead... it's like a self imposed lobotomy...
Ramboet: You mean, "Wow! The majority of tea-partiers are old, white, dissatisfied, ... and duped!"
When the Rethuglicans get their majority back from the Tea Baggers being duped by Money Baggers,
the Rethuglicans platform is ZERO capital gains tax and ZERO estate tax, creating the New American
Royalty for the 400 families who control most of the wealth in this country, for the Six Estates of the
Corporate-State, dropping their tax rate from 16.5% now to 0%! And the Tea Baggers are going to
wake up on election day with a tax bill for 59% of their income, which, believe it or not, now that 46%
of Americans work in Mil.Gov, or as Mercs and Usurists to Mil.Gov, at their $3,500 BILLION burn rate,
plus $1,430 BILLION in interest-only usury debt financing, will all HAVE TO BE PAID BY WORKING STIFFS.
Even if we eliminate ALL capital spending and ALL entitlements and NEVER PAY THE DEFICITS DOWN,
just the salaries, benefits and pensions of Mil.Gov and their Merc and Usurists requires 59% taxes
to maintain a balanced budget! That's how upside down we are, and that's how far Bush-Cheney
were able to sink the Ship of State before they got thrown out. Now comes the Carpetbaggers,
with their gribbles and teredos, eating the keel out of our Republic, so that we will surely founder.
You go, Glenn! You go, Sarah! You'll get to keep every penny of the millions you make hawking your
lies, and if you're lucky, as good Rethuglicans, they'll let you keep all your filthy lucre, and tax free!
Wow, go figure most Democratic voters don't pay any income tax for one reason or another. Those that do overwhelmingly work for the government where they can get in on the strict racial quotas etc.
Change and benefit is only relative to being included in the benefit of that change. People vote for whatever party benefits them personally the most.
It's not a "Tea Party", it's the Confederate Party.
Uneducated old whites who are mad as hell a black man is in the White House instead of out in the field picking cotton where he belongs. And they're mad as hell all those brown people are moving the boarder back to where it was before the War of 1848, winning every battle in the bedroom, out-mating and out-baby-making the old southern whites as Census 2010 will show.
How wonderful to know everything. Such enlightenment must be a burden to bear. Slander here, slander there. What a gift to have such empirical knowledge, so many find elusive. Shame to spend such lengthly time venting about a subject destined to be as completely irrelevant as these vapid writers...................................come November. Call them Tea Baggers, or anything you like, but come November........................call them in office.
Why would anyone want to attend a rally publicized by Fox News owned by an Austalian and an Arabic Prince whos $10 million donation after 9/11 was sent back by Giuliani? You really listen to these foreigners? They are tickling your ears for a reason. And it is not a Patriotic American reason. Through hate and fear they are dividing our house. A divided house cannot stand!
Who cares what you or MSNBC thinks? Who watches MSNBC?
So, Mr/Dr Glen Beck, the 'history professor' didn't know the date he chose had any importance in modern history! Hoooohhoooohahhhaaaa to all the people taking the 'courses' at Beck U.
You Ramoet must be a.... I will be nice right now... You must be a liberal who will find anything to disrupt what is really the gathering is about...
To quote Family Guy, "Teabaggers are old white men scared of change."
Ramboet
"Wow!! The majority of tea-partiers are old, white, dissatisfied, and republican.
Who would have guessed that??????"
Sounds better than young, stupid, democrat leftists who want something for nothing. Take from those who earned and give to those who haven't. More welfare for the lazy. More bailouts for those who won't pay their own way.
Hell, I am a democrat that pays my own way. The democrats that want to rule don't want to do the same. They want others to pay their way. Get off your asses and do something productive.
If Tea Party members + supporters were Republican, why are they starting a new thing? Oh yeah, it's run by the KKK and a dumb broad the GOP hates leads it(she doesnt know the KKK runs it). She cost the GOP the election in '08 and will again in '12. Go Obama!!! C'mon new Rich(GOP, in particular), folks taxes soon!!!
O-dog, full of hate yet short on facts. Go for the lies, vote for the cheats, oorah.
Funny how the clueless and lazy want change that benefits themselves at the expense of others. Bring on the socialism until those who pay leave and let you flounder in your own laziness.
I am Asian and young(er) and I think most liberals in this country are the problem. Obama is disgusting (it does not matter if he is black or white) I am 100% behind the tea party. They are the only hope the USA have now. If the liberals have more power longer, we will become another third world country. Liberals, wake up !! Socialism, Marxism and communism are all proved to be disastrous.
RickyBobby
"The Tea Party is the new version of the Ku Klux Klan."
That is your opinion but you are probably living on welfare. Why not get off you ass and do something other than whine?
Start a business and hire everyone you think the KKK discriminates against. Show how you can make a difference. The fact is that the KKK is a non-issue today. The left perpetuates discrimination and wants earners, regardless of political affiliation, to pay for those who don't want to work. Of course you won't exclude drug dealers, pimps, extortionists and strong arms like the panthers.
So, tell us how to make America better.
Hey, jtm...Your whining wingnut problem is you think that you think.
Duhh!
O-Dog2GX
If Tea Party members + supporters were Republican, why are they starting a new thing? Oh yeah, it's run by the KKK and a dumb broad the GOP hates leads it(she doesnt know the KKK runs it). She cost the GOP the election in '08 and will again in '12. Go Obama!!! C'mon new Rich(GOP, in particular), folks taxes soon!!!
Look up who founded the irrelevant KKK before you start saying the GOP is racist. Look up Robert Byrd.
OhioforCheney...
Evidently, YOU do...
Ronald Raygun,
Said the following:
You do realize the mosque is privately funded, right? You are absolutely correct!
You also realize that the democrats are nowhere near Marxists, right? The jury is still out on this one. While your average Democrat may not be "nowhere near Marxist" the democratically controlled Congress being lead like sheep by POTUS Obama are replacing the American Free Enterprise System with more government controlled jobs than ever before. Why do you think Obama and Congress are in no hurry to really do anything that will encourage businesses in this country to expand and hire more people, yet have no problem extending unemployment time after time? Watch and see unemployment grow even more when the Bush Tax Cuts are allowed to expire and everyone, especially businesses that are currently struggling get hit with a variety of new and increased taxes. Fact is Obama said during his initial campaign; "We live in the greatest country in the world, join me while I remake it." His policies are not geared toward letting the American Free Enterprise system fix the economy, but they are geared toward expanded government control and assistance. This is not only Marxist in style but the very definition of Socialism as well.
You are the CLASSIC teapartier that educated people mock and demean. Taken right out of the Democrat/Obama play book. If you are threatened by someone try to stereotype them.
You should stop typing in defense of your group. As Mark Twain said "It is better to stay quiet and have people assume you are a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt" While Mark Twain may have said this it was POTUS Abe Lincoln who originated it. This is actually what Mark Twain said: "It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt.-- Mark Twain (1835-1910)
Last there is this nifty thing called "spellcheck" here. You really should give it a try. If you're going to slam people for being against educated people, you should at least try to sound educated by correcting your spelling errors first. Just a little FYI
Adams
where do you get that foolishness. You are sympomatic of the problem with the right. You make up stories and repeat them until you get people to believe them.. All lies...all lies...
jtm964 said:
Liberals, wake up !! Socialism, Marxism and communism are all proved to be disastrous.
You know how ridiculous this statement is? Just because you're liberal doesn't mean you are a socialist, marxist, or a communist anymore than being conservative means you are a fascist, theocrat, or oligarchy.
I have yet to have anyone prove to me that Obama is any of those.
Odd, an AP poll a few weeks ago found the Tea Party to be slightly more white than America as a whole, slightly less black than America as a whole, but just as Asian and Hispanic as America as a whole. About as educated, slightly more wealthy, and noticeably more conservative as well. In other words, it's American conservatives. Nothing more, nothing less.
According to the U.S. Census, there is 79.6% whites and like 12.9% blacks in the country. Blacks have normally voted Democrat, so maybe that explains why there isn't a great number of blacks in the Tea Party. Calling the Tea Party the new KKK and all of the rest of the crap posted on here isn't getting the Democrats anywhere, probably explains why the Democrats ratings are free falling.
We will know more about the Tea Party by Sunday.
The Country is watching !
-- and generalizing it anyway, like Dennis.
If you don't know what the Tea Party is by now... then you've had your head in the sand.
Relax Dennis, this won't be like the Leftists. They won't be rioting, or burning anything, or breaking windows, or overturning automobiles. So it will probably be very boring for you. A lot of speeches with 3 and 4 syllable words and Conservative ideology. Now don't wince, but they will be using the "G-O-D" word a lot. I know, to the left this will definitely be obscene. They will be mentioning God on federal property. Should we have the police cars ready to book them?
Sounds like a Evengelical gathering.
I would say a lot of Evangelical principles will be there, but they are Americans too.
These Americans are Beck's cult. It's sad to see all of them confused and used.
"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis
To Chuck...... better to follow what beck has to say than to be an obuma cult follower.
Nobody is watching. And that includes Foxnews. Hanna Montana and Judge Judge blow Foxnews out of the water. Its nothing more than 15 million nuts who want to cut entitlements, except for the ones they receive of course.
Yes, Jim, Lewis did say that in 1935; of course, he was talking about Hitler and Mussolini at that time. It's hard to tell what the incarnation of fascism might be...might be an African-American President or a crying like a Baby talk show character.
The job of people like Limbaugh, Hannity, and Beck are to get ratings. They have found that they can be very successful if they play upon people's emotions, like fear and anger. So, they do everything they can, tell every lie and half-truth that they can legally get away with to promote either fear or anger or both; preferably, they will get both, as this makes for loyal lackeys.
Me...I won't fall for it. I am not fond of either party, have no respect for politicians and will only respect truth, dignity, history, and common sense.
Instead of following Beck or anybody else, how about thinking for yourself. I know it hurts but it gets better the more you use your brain.
Jim, that is a quote used by leftists for years to try to marginalize all Christian political involvement. I prefer this C.S. Lewis quote:
Christianity, if false, is of no importance, and if true, of infinite importance. The only thing it cannot be is moderately important. C. S. Lewis
If you think Beck and Palin are your saviors, you must watch this lesson from history and the subtitles.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dbb4U8v3YQ
This is exactly what the MoneyBaggers did to Argentina, and how they destroyed the Soviet Union
when Gorbechev tried to institute liberalizing economic reforms. A Globalist VampiRoyal Kleptocracy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dbb4U8v3YQ
Go ahead, watch this and tell me that's not USA.
Why don't you people stop listening to the MSM and go to a local tea party meeting. I think you'll find you have alot in common.
That is a new one. Instituting capitalism destroyed the Soviet Union. Maybe trying to keep up with Reagan and spending 40% of their GDP for almost 6 years on defense had something to do with it too. The economy in the Soviet Union was gone by the time Gorbechev got their. 70 years of center government planning was their real downfall. Hum, central government planning, sounds familiar.
jim from middle GA-1770468
"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis
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This from an alcoholic anti-America, Novelist, Playwright and short story writer.
Yoo-hoo-Dennis-it's Sunday.
America watched hundreds of thousand TEA Partiers.
What have you learned, Dennis? Anything? Or are you so crushed by disappointment that there were no riots that you cannot respond?
Glen Beck says this event will be non political, non partison.
Glen Beck also says ,God talks to him, sometimes he doesn't hear Him.
This must be one of these times, God is saying stop the lying Glen, GLEN ARE YOU LISTENING,GLEN!!!!
Glen said God speaks to him through his reading of the Bible. I don't know about your Bible but I checked mine and haven't found the name"Glen Beck" yet. So you must not be reading the christian bible.
You are right, Ray; Glen Beck would never be in anybody's Bible. However, my Bibles all have mention of something closely related to (different words, same meaning): "Don't lie." Either Glen needs to do better research or start listening to what God's Word has to say.
grumpy, most on the right do not consider that Beck is lying. I here the charge but see no documentation. For the left to try to quote the Bible when more than half of their policies after directly anti Bible is laughable
Non-political? Non-partisan? Who are the speakers again? Oh yeah. Beck, Palin, Bachman. No chance this is not a political lineup...and a political event.
And Beck's claim that the date is a coincidence? Give me a break. Does he think everyone was born yesterday, or just his "fans?"
Hey John where is your proof that Glen Beck has lied? Now it has to be verifiable proof and not just your opinion gained from your parties propaganda.
For the right to try to quote the Bible when more than half of their policies are directly anti-gospel is not laughable, it is tragic. Read the Beatitudes and weep. Read what "your" Christ said directly to you about motes and beams, and about the supreme commandment, especially the second half that you profess in words but ignore in practice; and read what your Messiah has to say about THAT. The fact that much of the left is anti-Old-Testament is no stranger than the incontrovertible fact that much of the gospels is also. And much of the rest of the New Testament is anti-gospel, for that matter. That comes through clearly even after millenia of biased redaction and translation and interpretation trying to smooth over some of the difficulties and embed various agendas over the centuries.
gaor, the motes and beams speak of being hypocritical not about not judging. Look just a few verses later when he says you shall know a person by the fruit they bear. Meaning, you will know who a perosn is by what he does. Sure sounds like he is telling you to make a judgement by what the person does. Christ said he upholds the Law(Old Testament) and says it is God's Law. He said he came to FULLFILL IT(Old Testament) not to do away with it. In fact, the rest of the New Testament just supports this. But you are probably buying the left's "social gospel" as the true gospel which is condemned directly in Galatians. Most of the left has no clue what the gospel is! If you are going to read the Bible, read the whole Bible because ALL is given from God. Not just the parts you want to pick and choose.
Glenn Beck is a lie all by himself. Glenn Beck lies every day on his show and his radio program. He forms it into something his viewers decide is truth because it is what they want to hear, what they what to believe is truth; Beck is deceptive. He lied when he said Pres Obama hates white people (when most of his staff and many friends are white) and when he called him a racist and then said he didn't really say it but there he is on tape; he lied when he said he did not know 8/28 was the same day as MLK's great speech. He lied about health care, he lied about the Islamic Cultural Center, he lied about what the Imam really said. In fact, there are tapes showing Glenn Beck talking to the Imam and agreeing that all Islam is not terrorists but now he lies and says the opposite. He lies when he says God talks to him--God has no interest in liars. The voices Beck hears are his own words coming to haunt him. God warns of the tricks the devil uses to deceive, Glenn Beck is one of those tricks.
Hey all you writing about the Bible. Read Romans 13 and post what you think it means. It is about 4 paragraphs.
more & more of the people in this country have been following Beck, the rest of FOX and whoever else the GOP & the KKK has been using since 1/21/09 to try 2 get get Dems(Obama) out. They know they wont in '12!!!
Ray W.
gaor, the motes and beams speak of being hypocritical not about not judging. Look just a few verses later when he says you shall know a person by the fruit they bear. Meaning, you will know who a perosn is by what he does. Sure sounds like he is telling you to make a judgement by what the person does. Christ said he upholds the Law(Old Testament) and says it is God's Law. He said he came to FULLFILL IT(Old Testament) not to do away with it. In fact, the rest of the New Testament just supports this. But you are probably buying the left's "social gospel" as the true gospel which is condemned directly in Galatians. Most of the left has no clue what the gospel is! If you are going to read the Bible, read the whole Bible because ALL is given from God. Not just the parts you want to pick and choose.
The law is the Ten Commandments...
Tom:
Actually, the Law is a lot more than just the Ten Commandments. Read on further, the next few chapters are more on the Law.
I see what you are saying, but we are not enforcers of the law only obedient. Enforcement means judging...Judge not..Lest ye be judged. For example...."If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them." Leviticus 20:13
this does not mean to go kill homosexuals, it mean do not practice this behaviour. We are supposed to love one another, do unto others as you would have them do unto you.
What if the event is peaceful? What will the MSM say then? Will they even report the event?
Well, we know the leftist will be sending some people to hold blatantly rascist sign. You can be sure they have let NBC know exactly where they will be so NBC can have their cameras there. Those sign will appear on either Olberman, Schultz, or Maddow within 5 minutes. Well, maybe not Schultz, even MSNBC execs know no one is watching him.
Right, Ray, and Rush Limbaugh, along with Glen Beck are plants by the DNC to make conservatives look ridiculous. Think about it!!!
Yes Ray, its a conspiracy to make the tea partiers look racist. None of them are AT ALL. hahahahahaha, moron.
grumpy, I hope we do look ridiculous to the small part of the country that is the left. Tells me we are doing things right.
I am disappointed. We had to cancel this weeks Klan meeting because so many of our members are going to Washington this weekend.
Somebody get poor Ray some help...seems he's been into Snoop Dog's stash again! Ray...one word...REHAB!
Ray W.,
The Gun Rights/TEA Party rally in DC this spring - Was a non-news item because NOTHING happened. The Libs did not show-up with their protest signs. Maybe because they were afraid of guns. Sigmund Freud - Had a saying about people with, 'A fear of weapon's..... Ha! Ha!
Johan-1928805 - The KKK was founded by Democrats to fight Republicans.
Johan-1928805
I am disappointed. We had to cancel this weeks Klan meeting because so many of our members are going to Washington this weekend.
The KKK is meeting with their founders the Democrats. To honor their fallen Kleagle Robert Byrd.
Glen Beck is a nut job
His nuts are holding a rally, what are your nuts doing besides keeping your hands warm? Maybe Obama will speak at the rally, show his respect!
That is a given, and so are his followers.
Why would the president want to stoop so low? Respect is not given it is earned.
walt.... good post but you can forget about obama makeing a speech;he might get a question about the economy or jobs and without that teleprompter with answers on it he would make a fool of himself.I love the way the president and the liberal are so scared of beck speaking the truth all they can do is come up with desperate comments and there targets are beck hannity and of course palin.
Great reply Carlyss man..... The best part about those who are on this Blog making accusations about KKK and Beck being this or that.... Is they have no idea just how bad they are going to be defeated in November and in 2012. Even with the name calling and false accusations at full throttle... you are way too late Progressive/Liberal/Marxists.... The battle is already won.... search you own heart and watch what is going on around you and you KNOW I AM SPEAKING THE TRUTH. Your Radical, Marxist, Muslim President has failed.. and done so at the expense of Millions of people who were DUPED into believing he was the walking talking messiah by the White House Sanctioned Media, who NEVER really gave Americans a true accounting of who Obama was.... Say what, do what, and accuse what you will.... Your days can be numbered on any calendar you see.... Remember I said that to you Liberals...Remember every time you see a calendar that a Tea Party supporter named DEREK told you your days are numbered.... Let it stay fresh in your head till the day it becomes reality.
Minan59: "Giving respect" is a form of tribute. "Respect" is a verb being used in that manner. Youre using it as a noun. There are these things called dictionaries and thesaurases, use them!!!!
Wonder if the left will send out cams to try and find someone spewing racists remarks or spitting on libs?
Hey, they barely reported the previous DC rally when there were hundred of thousands of people there. They'll only report this one if there is trouble that can be slanted to fit their meme on the Tea Parties.
There will be desperate attempts to generate- or fabricate- incidents. Like leftists throwing firebombs and attacking Muslims. It's really getting sad.
Mike...you really drank WAY too much of that Kool-Aid!
How low can Beck go before his implosion? Maybe Palin will be near. Please Republicans. Please pick normal candidates in 2010 elections. I am on the line and could change my vote but not for one of them. Oh, the Republicans whom I address are the party people that make the decisions. Anyone else is a wanabe. They would'nt let me or you use their bathroom.
Yank, so you want someone much more moderate or in the middle. What happens ever time the Republicans run your so called "moderate" They lose the election. Of course, Democrats want Conservatives to run a moderate. They have compromised all their convictions. Every time the Republicans run a true conservative they win because they stand for those values. They are running heavily conservative candidates and the numbers are showing up well.
great topic either you agree with my politics or you are heavily compromised. There are a great number of similarities between the 60s radicals and the right wing radicals of today.
Ray - "Ike" was moderate, Nixon was moderate, Reagan was moderate, Big Bush was moderate, and Lil "W", he was an idiot, though moderate. So were the Dem's. Centrists always won the presidency and always will......
Reagan was far from a moderate. He was an moron. Where did the brainless idea of cutting taxes while borrowing money come from? Wasn't Reagan famous for "deficits don't matter"?
Conservatives have shown without doubt that they have no moral values. They have lied about everything from WMDs, birth certificates, and health care to tax cuts for the wealthy helping the economy.
They can't debate honestly with facts to find the best solutions as they proved over and over again in the summer 2009 over Health Reform and the ARRA (as they took money and credit for the jobs created by it.)
There is simply no reason to listen to these lying, unreasonable people who refuse stand up like men and face the fact that their failed ideas cause huge recessions and concentrated wealth....
or that the crowd they stand with has been visibly racist and never called anyone out until they were called out by liberals with vidoes and pics that couldn't be denied (even though they tried to photo shop the word "niggar" out of pics of a Tea Baggy person).
These people are simply immature toddlers throwing a colassal term-long tantrum because their candidate didn't win the 2008 elections and they feel that conservatives are entitled to control the Presidency as well as the Legislative and Judicial barnches.
These are today's Conservatives . It is vital to keep them far, far away from any position of power .
GT, you have to be kidding. Reagan a moderate! There has not been a Republican President who has been more Conservative since WWII. Reagan is the godfather of modern Conservatism. To call him a moderate is totally ridiculous. Please note I said ran for office as a Conservative not governed. Bush Sr. ran as the heir to the Reagan Conservative legacy. When he moved as President to a more moderate position (tax increases), he lost. Bush Jr. ran as a Conservative Reagan Republican and won twice. McCain ran as a moderate and lost convincingly. Dole ran as a moderate and lost. Nixon was more of a chameleon and won because the Democrats were so far left they were rioting in Chicago over Vietnam. He won because the Democrats tore themselves apart. The only true Conservative in the last 50 years to lose was Barry Goldwater who ran less than a year after the Kennedy assassination. Again, anyone who has run as a Republican moderate in the last 25 years has lost. I stand by that statement.
Reagan was so conservative, he expanded the national debt by 189%. So much for fiscal responsibility--Reagan was cut taxes and spend more money--debts don't matter.
Yes Ray, more sarcasm and innuendos from the right, Of course you need to play the victim. Please identify the people arrested for saying the owrd God on federal property, also please identify a leftist doing any of the things you mentioned above. If they wont be like leftists, does that mean we can rest assured they will be bigoted, homophobic, minority despising and ill informed?
Just playing your game Ray. The game of claiming vistim hood and spin control.
Actually, in my opinion, history shows that the most bigoted, homophobic, minority despising and ill informed people in America have predominately been Democrats. "Isn't that ironic, don't you think?"
Of course, Jim it was sarcasm. But everytime a Conservative wants to pray or mention God on any public property, the left shows up immediately in the form of the ACLU. They want to quash any mention of God on public property. Question Jim, do you think the Bible is homophobic? There isn't a more anti gay book published. I know the left wants to ignor or remove those passages. If that is your term than many of the people at the rally are bigoted against the things the Bible is bigoted against. Since MLK's neice is one of the keynote speakers, I think your minority charge is, in your own words, ill informed.
The old testament, like the torah and the Q'ur'aan is a set of laws and commands given to the jews as a way to live and act and survive in the anciet world. The new testament, at the birth of jesus, fullfills the prophets, and introduces forgiveness and mercy to the world. It doesnt discriminate, not against any creed, color, or orientation. I am gay, Christ Jesus told me to love .....please take his advice.
You might want to read it again!
MDJLC, I appreciate you being a caring and loving person. But then what am I supposed to do with the first chapter of Romans or the first chapter of I Timothy(New Testament passages)? Just ignor what they teach on being gay and continually practicing it? Yes, I agree with your statement on forgiveness. That is why when Jesus forgave the adulterous woman he said to go and sin no more. God draws a difference between loving a person and loving their sin.
MDJLC,
Actually, forgiveness and mercy are cornerstones of the Old Testament. Really read the Law in Exodus some time. It commands people to love their enemies and show mercy on those who wrong them.
The "Tea Party" movement consists of a number of organizations (Tea Party Express, Tea party Patriots etc.) have people that work or volunteer for them that conduct a number of tasks for their organization. They; perform social networking to unite people under a single cause, carry out voter registration drives to get people involved in the movement, conduct "get out the vote" drives to get their members to the polls on election day, and setup rallies to energize the members. What do you call people that do these types of tasks? Community organizers.
true-realist: the Teabagger movement is a planned and financed "movement" by the billionaire Koch brothers who's only interest is deregulating everything to increase profits and their own wealth. Teabaggers are being used by these billionaires to vote against their own best interests. You all fell for it. They, along with cluster fixed non-news who's second largest shareholder is the Muslim Saudi Prince Al-Waleed bin Talal, are making fools out of every single moron that shows up there tomorrow.
http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2010/08/30/100830fa_fact_mayer
Excellent point!
Babina, you know nothing about the Tea Party from my observation. Deregulating, also known as getting the greedy government out of our businesses and lives, is viewed as a good thing, not a bad thing. I suspect that those who are most noisy about the Tea Party are people without initiative or a job...or more than likely, are people dependent on the government dole...a trait that is very un-American.
Yeah, like the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act, deregulating BankBrokers in 1999, allowing them to take down
Mom & Pop for TEN TRILLION DOLLARS in the Dot.Con neutron bmob, then take down Mom & Pop for
a second time for FIVE TRILLION DOLLARS, along with THIRTEEN TRILLION DOLLARS unfunded deficits!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rH6_i8zuffs&feature=related There's your 'deregulation' for you!
Those who fail to learn the lessons of history, are doomed to dumpster dive through all eternity.
Babina, again leftist magazines from New York are not good references for the right. Koch brothers were only involved in one start up late on the east coast. New Yorker tried to spin them in a great conspiracy. The first Tea Party was organized by Dick Armey and some other is Texas. With some publicity on national radio and Fox, other tea party organizations popped up across the country. There is no national leadership for the "Tea Party" in general. There are probably ten major Tea Party entities who often disagree on minor issue.
Work 45 hours a week at my normal job, own my own side business and own 3 rental properties that I have paid for. So your generalization is insulting.
The majority of Tea Baggers and far right extemists are idiots. Total deregulation is for idiots.
The majority of far left extremists are idiots Too much government is for idiots.
So what I am basically saying is most of the people arguing here are idiots. Our forbears brought this country forth with compromise. You extremists make me sick with your "My way or the highway" mentalities. Both sides need to learn to give in a little. And please don't go trying to say you do because most of the time that someone from either of your sides does try to work with the other you throw him or her under the bus.
true realist-Those groups are getting lied to by the KKK from TN!!!!! Those groups(that include Afro-American followers) in other parts of the country don't know the whole deal!!!! They dont mention thats who it was founded and is run by. What the groups entire mindset is now and for '12!!! I honestly dont think Palin knows what the real deal is.
This is somewhat off topic, but I think it bears saying. I have been extremely impressed with the attitude shown by Dr. King's family regarding this. They have shown a lot of class and grace.
Dr. Martin Luther King, or Dr. Harvey King, my podiatrist?
That is why Dr. King's neice will be one of the speakers next to Beck
At least we will be able to hear the Greedy Geezers inspiring battle cry..."Get the government out of my Medicare!" Or, more simply, "No national health care...except for me."
The 46% of Americans in Mil.Gov all have free Tri-Care for life ... and we have to pay their medical bills!
And believe it or not, there's Americans stupid enough to believe that's better than national healthcare!
Rethuglicans are calling for the downfall of the American Republic, during a time of war. That's treason!!
Herman,
Tri-care is not free. Why do you think it's so bad? Do you have it? I have both Tri-care and I get free care at the VA. I only use the VA for appointments I have to go there for.
Tri-care is a benefit that our Military gets for serving, but you probably figure that's a bad thing right?
TEA party favourite candidate without a college degree? U got to be kidding me! They are really a bunch of crowns..
Let's see; I am 53,make less than $10,000.00 a year,GED with 6 college credits. My race? Last time I looked Human. My career (JOB), well I love what I do. I am a Christian, I live and stand in God's Grace. I just don't believe in religion.
Got a group for me out there?
Democrats: Who are they? Answer ... socialists, commies, mal-contents and borderline traitors.
Yep, but they try to call it being Progressive.
Woody:
Wow. You are excellent at name calling. That's a great argument.
"Borderline traitors." That's some pretty strong stuff. Names, please. Describe the crime of treason each nearly (borderline) committed. Dates too. Oh. And provide a link to FACTS to support your claim.
I'll wait patiently for your response.
Conservatives: Who are they? Answer ... Fascists, terrorists, and traitors.
Minan, who were the fascists in Germany, right the Nazis. Nazi stood for? The National Socialists. Gee, how things come full circle
Oh please, anyone who actually read anything about the HISTORY of the Nazi Party knows they called themselves that in order to enlist the unemployed into their cause. Hitler was supported strongly by industrialists of the country who liked his ANTI-COMMUNIST stance and his dislike of TRADE UNIONS (Starting to sound familiar?).
Teabaggers: the party for the mentally ill
Wow, I didn't know that Woody. I was a Democrat during 21 years of Mil. Svc. Rather than locking me up for being a so called commie, traitor, malcontent they gave me ribbons and outstanding service awards along with several promotions. I pledged my sole to honor and protect this country and to show respect to my superiors including the President of the United States. I hold to those beliefs still today and that my friend inhibits me from classifying you or anyone else as you have done. I may know within me the level of your education and of your twisted beliefs but to show that belief with hate is not in my nature. Obama 2012
Because Hitler took over the major industrial manufacturers and had government representatives in each plant. He nationalized most of the major producers. Of course, the major industrialist cooperated with him. What choice did they have. It was not like they were given the option. If you look at the Nazi platform and the communist platform of the '30's, they were almost identical. Hitler just did not like anyone questioning him. He destroy all political opposition not just the communists and trade union. Any possible opposition was destroy, even the brown shirts in his own party. Fascism or Communism carried to their ends are exactly the same. They are totalitarian dictatorship regimes with very little difference.
But isn't the democratic party one of largest in the US?... so essentially the majority of my family is full of "socialists, commies, mal-contents and borderline traitors", as would be a massive portion of the united states population since only 10% of the Republican party is not white and the Tea Party is an offshoot brand of the Republican party with almost identical demographics and statistics. So there are probably something like 50+ million(conservative figure) "so-called" Americans who fit your definition... I guess white people or republicans are the only true Americans.
I tell you who they are there people like me in the past who didn't pay much attention to the candidate,the tea party is a sleeping giant who just got woken up
That's exactly who we are William Plotts. We are collectively the sleeping giant and we awoke to claim a voice in how our country is run. And our detractors need to know this: attempts to silence us with name calling will not deter us because lies cannot diminish the truth.
Yeah. Uh-huh. I stopped reading here. Let me put it this way. If it is "non-political and non-partisan" then two-thirds of the crowd will be gone before the third folk song and most of the people on the program by the second. People don't attend these little sidewalk soiree's for a tan and a hot dog. If Beck is involved, its pure rightwing politics. They may try to dress it up and pass it off as a community picnic but that won't wash. Hope they have fun
Its not political or partisan. The real reason; Glen Beck still has a @!$%# load of dried seeds in his garage that he needs to get rid of, and getting all those maroons in one place ought to do the trick.
Ohhh, did I mention that I am a registered voter? Darn, that age thing.... What to do, what to do?
Mary Alice, enjoying your sense of humor. Come to Ohio...I'll have a party for you
Mary Alice, remember the liberals of the '60's. Everyone over 35 could not be trusted and didn't deserve the vote. But they were educated in liberal universities and were so much smarter than the rest of America. Only difference with the liberals now is that these liberals take a bath. You know a little of life's experience should count for something. The CHANGE of the left is nothing new, just the same old ideas recycled. They didn't work the first or the second time, but they will work now.
TYVM!! The liberal's arent the hippies or beatnicks like my Ma & Grandma were. Theyre my age(probably your age too) w/ a college education, etc.
Mary Alice Frank - I Don't know what group you belong in, but you're way to educated to belong to "Woodsyhowl's " group.
I don't remember joining a "group"; who is Woodsyhowl? Oh yeah, that guy! If and when I do join a group it will be one of "MY" peers.
I wonder how many out there would fit in that Group?
Come on, I know you are out there......
Last time I checked, the older adults in this Country had way more life experience than these 18 yr old kids that voted for Obama without knowing anything about politics. Many of these young misguided kids have no idea what socialism is or that socialism doesn't work, just ask the former USSR. As for the 60% number; How many first time voters and african-american dem's that voted for Obama actually had a college education? I would say very few if any since they voted for him because he was black or because he was charismatic, they did not take the time to see who was actually more experienced. This snake in the grass is the worst president in the history of the United States, and I fully place the blame with the fools that fell victim to Mr. Obama's lies.
You are being pushed aside. This country does not bear and never has borne any resemblance to the former Soviet Union. Teabaggers long for the old days of the 50s and early 60s when all one had to be to get a good job was be white, preferably male. I remember those days. I, too, benefited from those days. They are over.
Nate; your death panel called; your appointment is tomorrow
Me, me, me, and proud of it
We live in Maryland, in the Northern DC suburbs, and like most demonstration weekends, that means we'll avoid going downtown this weekend. The DC suburbs of Maryland, of course, are largely Democratic and liberal. Socialists, Commies, malcontents, and border-line traitors, as Woody noted. But we are well off commies. Not many Tea Party people live here.
We'll see what happens this weekend. Two or three years from now, it will most likely be just another forgotten event. Just like Glenn Beck.
If Obama and the Dem's have it their way, it will be forgotten and I'll tell you why. If they can push their agenda through, it will be against the law to question them or even speak the name of Glenn Beck. Sound scary??? Well, that is what Socialism is!!! We will have a state controlled media and schools will only teach what they want you to know. Wait....they already do that now, except for the righteous Fox News!!!
If they can push their agenda through, it will be against the law to question them or even speak the name of Glenn Beck.
And you believe that a bad thing! ~:)
Nate - You sound scary.
there ya go..... fear..... fear.... dirty dirty commies..... socialism..... red death..... godless atheists.....
hahaha the same crap they screamed when welfare was instituted..... social security... same playbook , same arguments..... same tale told by a fool, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing
Sound scary??? Well, that is what Socialism is!!! We will have a state controlled media and schools will only teach what they want you to know.
That is verbatim out of Reagan's 1961 rant about Medicare. "As surely as the sun rises in the morning" within a generation (of 1961) we will have state control of all your life, you will have to ask permission to travel to the next town, you will have to have permission to enter a trade, or to go to college, all the scare stories about Stalinist USSR coming to the United States by 1970 if Medicare is enacted. N.B. at the time, Reagan was an actor hired by the AMA, and a member of the Democratic Party, though disaffected.
Reagan was no more racist than Rand Paul, but had identical views: "If an individual wants to discriminate against Negroes or others in selling or renting his house, it is his right to do so." This is what happens when economic ideology becomes your religion instead of your tool for promoting the general welfare. Then competing religions begin to anathematize one another, Soviets calling dissidents "capitalist tools" and Republicans calling dissidents "communist tools."
The more things change, the more they are the same.
Trolllll in the dungeon! Thought you ought to know.
I joined the Tea party. I am a Reagan Conservative who believes that Obama, Pelosi, and Reid's Socialist social engineering experiment is a poor fit for my country's history, ideals, values, culture, and direction. To do nothing is worse than taking a stand by joining the Tea Party. If you want a historical analogy, I liken Obama to King George III and Democrats to Tories bent on propping up the inexcusable monarch. This bunch in Washington DC is bankrupting my nation, thrusting alien values upon us, and disrespecting my country with every word they utter at home and overseas. I am ashamed of my government. I now know what it feels like to live under a Chavez-like regime. Obama's simply a smoother orator. The Socialist ideals are the same. Right now I plan to vote my convictions in November for Conservative candidates to return our nation to its' senses. What the future holds; I don't know. At best, a reassessment of who we are as a people who hold true, tried, and tested American values. At worst, I can see our nation lapsing into civil war. No? It has happened before over a lot less than this. What will I do then? What will you do then? What side will you be on? I know what side I will be on...the American side.
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Bush's unnecessary wars are bankrupting this nation. I liken Reagan, GWB, Limbaugh, Palin, et al to Jefferson Davis and the Confederacy. The American side of a civil war to come (I don't believe a shooting war is coming) will be the same side that won in 1865. You are not on that side.
I live in Mississippi (fifth generation and 7th generation southerner) Thank God the Union won. If Mississippi wasn't part of the United States of America it would look like Guatemala. Don't let the Neocons take the USA down that path.
I am also with you Mark.
Nay-sayers about the movement do not really understand what we are standing for, they just listen to the propaganda that is being fed to them by both the left and right. We don't stand for either side, we stand for America and the values our fore fathers envisioned. I challenge all to go to a tea party and actually listen to the message of what really is being said . Once you do go and listen then you are more than welcome to form your own opinion and make your judgements and decisions.
Please don't condemn out of ignorance, if you are to pass judgement do it from wisdom.
Phoenix
Houston, TX
So Mark, name us some specifically socialistic policies implemented that you disagree with. Mandating that insurance companies can't refuse to cover sick children? Protecting Americans form predatory lending?...enlighten us.
We don't stand for either side, we stand for America and the values our fore fathers envisioned.
The very name of the Tea Party is a fraud. The Boston Tea Party was a protest against taxation without representation. Now that we have a Republic and a Constitution we have today's "Tea Party" who are against taxation with representation. They have the strange idea that the elected representatives do not have the right to pass laws levying taxes to promote the general welfare of the People. They have the perverted idea that government of and by and for the people is the enemy; they want legislation by the minority (themselves) for the other minority (the demagogues who are deluding them and laughing all the way to the bank.)
javadanny, Obama spent more money just on his Stimulus ($814 billion, new number from CBO this week) than we have spent to date on both wars ($711 billion) These figures do not include the $3 trillion in deficits Obama and the Democrats have run up in just two years. In total, of an almost $10 trillion in the national deficit right now, almost $4 trillion has been run up by under Obama and the Democrats. So you can tell me that Bush is responsible for the possible federal bankruptcy, but the numbers are not in favor of your statement. Did Bush overspend, YES! But he was a beginner compared to Obama and the Democrats.
mitchrog,
I'll be glad to enlighten you... In our great state, we have socialized healthcare for those who are unable or unwilling to work (yup, it's free). Our foster daughter (grown adult) is on her umpteenth child with an illegal alien, she doesn't work (when I suggested in-home childcare so that she could stay at home with these children, she took offense and said that she didn't WANT to)...
I understand WHY she doesn't want to... She has far better healthcare than I do through my educator's position (she actually complained about one plan she was on, and got put on the plan of her choice)... AND, she receives over $400 monthly for food. I don't know about y'all, but I don't spend that kind of money on food - I can't afford to.
In addition to our fine state being so generous with what I pay out in taxes, she gets to use that food stamp money on pizza (she had me over for take and bake pizza and told me it was paid for by the state!), AND, she gets to shop at Costco with her food stamp money (yup, buys her kids sweets and junk). Wow, wish I the balls and attitude that she (and multiples like her) have... Unfortunately, I was raised to work my butt off, and earn my living. Gotta blame that Tea Party attitude...
"About 60 percent of those who said they were interested in voting for Tea Party candidates do not have a college degree."
Yet 40 % are educated .
"About 40 percent reported an annual household income of over $75,000"
Yea and 60 % are under 75k.
In both Gallup and Rasmussen polls over the last three years, it shows those identifying themselves as Conservatives are more highly educated and earn more money than those who identify themselves as Liberal or Progressive.
This entire story is intended to paint a certain segment of society including myself as ignorant white trash. A college degree and $2.50 will get you a cup of coffee while unemployed, living with mommy and daddy on their insurance until nearly 30 like the TV show "Get a Life". Thinking that four years of college entitles one to anything is laughable, it just looks good on paper for the PC jobs. I'll take a military vet or TEA Partier with experience over a college degree 24/7, I'm not trying to impress incompetents.
What do you liken Lil "W" and his GOP cronies, that got us into this mess, too?
It is too bad, that your beliefs in this kind of tabloid site is so strong. You know if you would drag yourself away from your computer for a while. Maybe go to one of these events. See for yourself what is really going on. You wouldn't be so uninformed about the real world. That way you wouldn't believe this kind of BS like this article. But go ahead live your life with your head in the sand, make snide remarks about things you couldn't possibly understand. Only because you read this Cr*p and believe it to be true.
I watched Beck on three different occasions. Told me all I want to know. What a wingnut! He and his wife decided to be Mormon after a drive around the city looking at churches. Whew!
What a sad and sorry group of people. Do they even understand the meaning of Honor? I think not because racism, hate, libel, narcissism, sociopathic and psychopathic behaviors, etc., have nothing to do with Honor.
Do you understand the meaning of Honor??? Standing up against an oppresive government that doesn't listen to or care about the citizens. I guess you will now say the founding fathers didn't have Honor!!!
Funny, I don't FEEL oppressed.... could it be that you are oppressed because things aren't going the way YOU want politically, last time i checked Obama was democratically elected, democrats took the house and senate.... democratically... so are you saying the majority who voted them in dont share your values? so you are being repressed by the very democracy you claim to love.... who's unpatriotic now?
I know and agree the left is all that and more, paranoid, deceptive, and more frightened of the Conservatives than I ever thought possible. Nov. is coming and I so look forward to it. Any way you twist it 70% of the nation dislikes the direction this nation is going. The same number feel their preferences have not only been ignored but blatantly rejected by this administration. That is 70% of the voting public on both sides of the aisle. It is 1994 all over again, ask Clinton how that works!