You should concentrate on the 51% of Democrats (Pew Research) who are unable to correctly identify President Obama's faith, Feisty.

Especially the 10% of Democrats who believe he's a Muslim.

I'd start with them.

Okay, our president is not a Muslim (not that there is anything wrong with being Muslim), I totally buy that but what on earth was he thinking with some of his recent statements? Did his advisors actually tell him to go "Pro Ground Zero mosque" with 90 days until the midterms when Democrats are about to get sliced up like a Hibachi Steak at Benihana?

Did someone on his team point to Iran and said, "Don't worry Mr. President, we can win with 32% of the vote, Ahmadinejad did it, so let's go pro Ground Zero mosque today?"

Read this article which satirizes the whole mess.

VERY FUNNY stuff.

http://www.dailygoat.com/?p=2653

What's worse...RNC lying about Obama being a muslim? Or, Obama lying about the effects of the stimulus (recovery summer!!), health care bill bending the cost curve (CBO says NO!!), finance bill reducing risk of another meltdown (ya see Freddie or Fannie in there??)??

Honestly if Obama wanted us to think he was a Christian, I would think he would attend service once in awhile. That might clear up some doubts; ya think?? Oh and service at St. Mattress or Our Lady of the Links...don't think that's helping!!

GO OBAMA...ONE & DONE!!!

Oh yeah, Obama's a muslim, did'nt you see Michelle wearing those sleveless burkas!

Too funny!

Fox News: The Terrorist Central News Agency !

A Suadi businessman is the 2nd largest shareholder(Rupert Murdoch is the largest) of NewsCorp. This Saudi businessman is also part of the Bin Laden group(who know where their Brother is & still give $$$ to).

Pictures of former President Bush with this Saudi businessman can be found, with a click of a button.

Film of Glen Beck from 2005 has surfaced with the Imam, with beck calling Islam "A peaceful religion", thats been taken over by Extremeist.

Therefore, the Only conclusion i can come to is That, George Bush was & is a terrorist sympathizer, along with Rupert Murdoch & Glen Beck.

Foxs news: The Central Terrorist News Agency !

Rick- You Betcha!

(except I don't think Beck is a terrorist. I think he's a little "I'm afraid of everything girl" Bush wasn't necessarily a terrorist, but his VP was))

President Obama did NOT endorse the Islamic Cultural Center--he spoke of first amendment rights to practice freedom of religion and to build religious institutions on private property where and when they choose. He did not wade into the debate; he spoke at the annual Ramadan dinner (which Pres Bush also held). Apparently, republicans feel it necessary to criticize President Obama for defending the first amendment of the U.S. Constitution.

Pres Bush rarely went to public church services either; most Presidents do not except for religious holidays. Most presidents prefer the Chapel at Camp David where security already exists and it provides privacy of worship. One more time, every time any president goes to church it costs taxpayers money, it inconveniences the church members who must be screened for security reasons, the site must be thoroughly searched long before the service and guarded until after, it poses a threat to not just the President but everyone else attending. The news media follows to be sure and get pictures. How much privacy of worship does any president have when attending public church services? None. Use some common sense.

RNC spokesman Doug Heye responds, "An errant, or sarcastically-intended tweet aside,

You gotta love the what's passing for 'naughty' these days with the perverts in the family values party!

OK - if President Obama is a Muslim, then what was he doing sitting in a Christian Church for 20 years listening to Rev. Wright?

Isn't that the attack line that the right has against this President? I mean, isn't Rev. Wright the one that preached HATRED for 20 years?

So which is it?

Is the President a Muslim or not?

You CANNOT have it both ways. The Right CANNOT defend their criticisms of this President, can they?

If the right is lying about the President in Rev. Wright's CHRISTIAN Church, can we honestly believe whar the Right is saying about the President is a Muslim?

If the right is NOT lying about Rev. Wright's Church, then they MUST be lying about the President being a Muslim, correct?

The President either IS a Muslim or he is not.

Inquiring minds want to know...

It is MSNBC that is saying the Republicans think he is Muslim.. its all they have left.. MSNBC knows that they can no longer Defend Obama on his Polices as we are seeing them Fail one after another.. His polices are infact leading us into a Double dip Recession. So instead of reporting on this Failed Administration all MSNBC can do is Create a Story to Deflect attention away from this Administration

Pietro,

Christain, or Muslim?

Answer: Narcissist?

Inquiring minds would like to know how religious narcissist are?

C'mon, Bob - Either the President is a Muslim... or not.

Narcissism doesn't care what religion you are.

However, it seems that Todd Herman has an issue though...

Maybe Todd is an EX-RNC official after this dustup?

Pietro,

Religion is part of politics. Obama is a consumate politician.

Narcissism doesn't care what religion you are.

But, how much does a Narcissist care about religion beyond political considerations?

I don't really care which he is. His political beliefs and his wanton disregard for the majority will of the people concern me much more than any religious belief he may, or may not have.

Wanton disregard for the majority? Are you sure about that? The majroty have said they don't want SS or medicare privatized and are probably willing to pay for them. Majority, really?

Bob, I am glad that we have that cleared up. You don;t care what religiion the President is.

Me either.

However, the President's political beliefs have not changed since the election in 2008. As far as the 'wanton disregard for the majority will of the people' - it seems to me that the President was elected with 53% of the popular vote.

That tells me 53% of the electorate actually SUPPORTS the President and his agenda. They voted for it, didn't they?

So... what was that you were saying about the 'majority will of the people'??

Pietro, this must be Frank Putz's new narrative for reublicans, " I don't care what he is" since they can no longer prove this riduculous point.

Obama's church for 20 years is closer to Islam than Christianity. Black Liberation Theology believes in social redemption vs individual redemption. Obama's church named Louis Farakahn man of the year. So tell me, is he a Christian or a Muslim. I don't take Obama's word for it, because he lies with a straight face. The Koran says you can lie to infedels to move Islam forward.

In God We Trust

Obama's only living relatives are all Muslim. Rev Wright's church was a church of racist hate, not a Christian Church. Obama was never baptised. He has repeatedly slipped and stated "I am a Muslim", Obama's only formal religious training was in Islam as a child (he memorized the Koran). I'd have to say deep inside he believes he is a Muslim.

Islam allows Slavery-- 12 million slaves are held by Muslims today. Muslims allow men to marrry multiple wives. Do we want a President that has no problem with SLAVERY?

enoughsenough

Nice way to try to have it both ways. It is okay for a church to be nondenominational, but the church that Obama attented really was Christian. So you might as well stick with attacks(that failed) on Rev. Wright.

Pietro,

Obama was rated the most liberal senator in 2007. Obama campaigned as a post partisan centrist and was elected. As President, Obama has governed as the most liberal, partisan president in modern history pushing a progressive, statist agenda that's primary goal is the expansion of the role and control of the federal government.

The American people wanted HCR. They did not want the expanded control and power of the federal government over their lives. Last week Berwick announced that the most widely used drug in the treatment of breast cancer was being removed from Medicare and Medicaid, not because of its efficacy, but because of its expense. This is an example of exactly why the majority of America was against Obama's HCR before it finally passed, is still against Obama's HCR and will be infuriated as more of this type of consequence comes out. Same with Finance Reform. The American people wanted responsible federal oversight and protection, not 2,300 pages of more government control, especially when the key issue was not even addressed.

From Arizona to the mosque in New York, Obama always seems to be at odds the majority of Americans. Americans were concerned about the Gulf and the loss of jobs. Obama ignores Salazar's panel of experts that say it is more dangerous to shut down wells than leave them producing. Obama ignores Bromwich's report stating 24,000 jobs would be lost. Obama shuts it down anyway. On and on, to expand the role and control of the federal government, not meet the will of the people.

Americans have are increasingly becoming aware of Obama's true agenda and it is not what Obama campaigned, not what they want and not what they voted for.

Obama is the most polarizing and divisive president in Gallup history. And it is has only deteriorated since Gallup's poll months ago.

Anyway, the 53% that supported him in the election are certainly not there now.

Thanks for your comments, Pietro.

I find a lot of contradiction in what you say. You say you wanted HCR but no govement involvement perhaps you could tell me how you would do that.Every republican proposals i have seen would have done nothing to help US.You make all these statements about what we wanted but that we did not want it his way SO what way do we want it.The president does not wright laws the congress does he can ask,make threats and try to point people in the direction that he wants but it is still the congress that wrights the laws and if the republicans had REALLY tryed to work with the dems we would have a better set of laws.I say again if we want all these things and we do not want it Obamas's way what way do we want it And give some details because talk with out details is just talk.

Obummer doesn't even know himself. This is great. obamma referrs to himself as being a muslime then corrects himself. Sorry to you retarded dims now get in the back of the line.

As I understand it, Muslim law states that a child born to a Muslim father is a Muslim. Mom's religion doesn't matter. Further, a renunciation of your Muslim faith is grounds for death. So technically, Obama's a Muslim. Whether he's a practicing Muslim or not is grounds for debate. And frankly, I don't care. The only circumstance in which I've ever cared about a politician's religion is when they use it to pander for votes but don't practice it in their voting record. If you claim to be Catholic to get the votes of your fellow Catholics yet vote to expand abortion rights it feels a little skeevy to me. If you advertise your faith, you ought to vote that way, too. If you don't advertise it, it's no never mind to me.

As we watched the other day the republicans job of scaring white america is working. People need to be careful though because you cant aproach every black person the way you did at the site. You might get shot. and it will be well deserved because anyone who is going to fall for the terorist backing foxnews needs to be shot anyways.

"I don't really care which he is. His political beliefs and his wanton disregard for the majority will of the people concern me much more than any religious belief he may, or may not have."

i'm sorry to have to inform you of this. but those awesome looking polls you see on the news does not actually reflect 100% of americans. when you see a poll that says 56% of americans are against such and such.. what they really mean is 56% of 100 to 1000 americans polled in a specific region are against such and such.

the only true voice of the majority comes on election day. fox news is not the majority, msnbc is not the majority, glenn beck is not the majority, you are not the majority.

The GOP knows their audience better than anyone, and clearly realize you do not put out rational messages for radical people.

Lets face it their policies benefit only the TOP 2% of Americans, and at least half of those are Democrats. So how do you appeal to all those white people who make less than $250,000 a year?

You appeal to their prejudices, their fears, and their hate and tell them they are Patriots!!

I have now read three posts critical of the President, allegedly from three different posters, using almost the same, exact words to the effect, "I don't care what he is, I only care about his wanton disregard of the majority...." The last five words are almost exact in each of these posts.

Where is this coming from? GOP Talking points? Rush's broadcast? Troll Crib Sheets? GOP HIVE MIND?

C'mon guys, clean up your act. If you are going to gang-bang us with fake people using scripted responses at least give them variations on the theme to work with. This is laughable.

Really creates a nice picture of the little GOP Zombies goose-stepping in lock step and chanting.."Wanton Disregard...Wanton Disregard....Wanton Disregard....:

What great mental gymnastics. Now the FACT that Obama is a Christian doesn't matter because people don't approve of the particular Christian church of which he was a member.

I think that illustrates very convincingly why the Establishment Clause is so very important.

Bob - thanks for your comments.

From Arizona to the mosque in New York, Obama always seems to be at odds the majority of Americans. Americans were concerned about the Gulf and the loss of jobs. Obama ignores Salazar's panel of experts that say it is more dangerous to shut down wells than leave them producing. Obama ignores Bromwich's report stating 24,000 jobs would be lost. Obama shuts it down anyway. On and on, to expand the role and control of the federal government, not meet the will of the people.

I just took a snippet of what you've posted. I am zeroing in on this PARTICULAR portion because I think it is important:

From Arizona to the mosque in New York, Obama always seems to be at odds the majority of Americans

From your own observations, you are pointing out that 'President Obama SEEMS to be at adds [with] the majority of Americans'. I know that we have gone aruond and around about this. Your point is that the 53% that elected President Obama may NOT be a majority now. I am implying from your post that based on the actions of this President, that he may not enjoy the 'majority'.

I disagree.

Your post specifically used the word' SEEMS', and that may be hedging, but it also implies that you are NOT 100% SURE that the President DOESN'T enjoy the majority. I thik that if you were SURE of yourself, as your post certainly supports, then you would have phrased your post as such (emphasis is mine):

From Arizona to the mosque in New York, Obama IS always at odds the majority of Americans.

Bob, we will just have to disagree here. I personally think that the majority of Americans DO think that this President is doing EXACTLY what they want him to do. I also think that a very VOCAL minority has made enough noise about EVERYTHING this President does to make everyone THINK that they speak for the majority of Americans when they in fact do not.

Bob, you are definitely entitled to your opinion and position. I tend to disagree with you. I also see that you have a latent doubt that you are 100% correct in your post, even though you make an eloquent argument to support your point. You also did it without character assassination and name calling - thank you for that and I do appreciate your civility.

Thank you for your post, Bob. I am sure we will cross paths again.

Well said and well presented.

This President took office during a challenging time, and whether I am in the majority or not I do not care.

I was not expecting miracles and believe President Obama has done an good job in his first almost 2 years in office. His policies and intellect certainly has returned credability to our executive branch.

The remarkable thing, Ron, is that BOTH these narratives can coexist in the Conservative universe without being in conflict!

Pretty impressive , is'nt it?

"Are these the same Republicans who ranted for weeks about Rev. Wright and President Obama's Christian faith?"

Yes, Ron- they could be. But then again, maybe they are the same Republicans that DO see the harm in 'furthering the notion' that the current economic mess began under Bush's watch.

Actually, criticizing Reverend Wright's rantings has nothing much to do with the accusations of being a Muslim.

What the President needs to clarify is if he considers being called a Muslim offensive. Most of the posters here seem to consider it an insult for the President to be accused of being Muslim.

Personally, I think he will be whatever benefits him most politically. Seems kind of tough right now. I am hearing this president proclaiming his religious faith more often publicly than the last one. The poor guy just can't win, because we all know how much it bothered us to hear that Bush was a man of faith.

On another issue: If the Republicans make strong gains in November, or even shift the balance of power, who are Democrats going to blame?

Richard, have you been in a coma the last 8 years? Bush was a Born-Again Christian and referenced the Bible and other Christian ideas liberally.

Also, what if they don't make strong gains in November? Who are the Rebups going to blame?

All I was saying is that I hear as much from Obama confirming that he's a Christian that I ever hear from Bush. I didn't deny that Bush wore his faith on his sleeve. I was also being a bit tongue-in-cheek.

And if Republicans don't make strong gains in November, it means that they were overly optimistic and have no one but themselves to blame.

That wasn't the question I asked, though. Now that I've answered yours, any chance of returning the favor?

"On another issue: If the Republicans make strong gains in November, or even shift the balance of power, who are Democrats going to blame?" - Richard Washington State

To answer your question, YES with the exception of the moderate Republicans like Collins, Snowe, Brown and a few other I will continue to blame Republicans (NOP) regardless of who wins in NOV.

In the end, the Good Lord with a Magic wand could not have fixed the mess in the time frame that President Obama has been in office.

The GOP once the Party of Lincoln is now the party of Palin and Limbaugh. It is a social conservative party that uses hate and personal attacks as red meat to appeal to the worst of our nation.

I have no problem with a fiscal conservative party, but the GOP is not that party nor does it have a track record in recent history to prove they stand for fiscal conservative policies. The track record and corporate welfare policies are THE major reason why we are at this point in our history.

What pi$$es me off more than anything TRR, is some of these nitwits are capable of a coherent thought now and again...

Yet this is the ONLY time you'll ever see them keeping their mouths shut... you can practically see them smirking with pleasure!

It tells me more than I want to know about what kind of sick & twisted people the right wingers are!

These ARE NOT Americans... these are self absorbed - selfish - petty - hate mongering - discriminatory LIARS just like the RNC!!!

You left out ME FIRST'ers, Feisty.

"ME FIRST at any cost, and the hell with you." (Oh, and did I mention that THEY have the market cornered on what Jesus taught??)

Thanks for the catch Drive-By!

Now that you mentioned it... I also forgot to add - white and bloated!

Stupid SOB's!!!!!!!!!!!!

Keep Creating Stories to Defect the Failed Polices of this Administration. Its what you democrats do best..

Steve-505729

"...Keep Creating Stories to Defect the Failed Polices of this Administration. Its what you democrats do best.."

I need to pay more attention. DEMORCRATS created this Muslim story? Brother- you been haning around with that Smith woman too long again!

Drive by..

it is you and the Liberals on this page that need to Deflect the Attention away from the Obama Administration by Continuing this Story. . its all you ahve left . I understand this.. please. Continue. .it will not help you come Novermber.. The American People have Awoken and are not happy with The Deception that Continually comes from the left.. Divert.. Divert divert.. all to keep the Attention off the Failing Economy that the Obama Administration and the Democrats have Created...

The Obama as a Muslim schtick has been around almost as long as he has been campaigning. Who knows who started it. If you want to blame Republicans, have at it. But there is no denying that the Democrats are USING it as a distraction.

Right now I can't think of a "major" current issue that isn't a distraction and I certainly lean in the direction of thinking that it's Democrats who stand to benefit most from meaningless distractions like Mosques, Sherrods, race baiting and perpetuating the faux "outrage" over the allegations that Obama is a Muslim or wasn't born here.

How about highlighting the "Summer of Recovery"?

Will the people of America see what the Rupert Murdoch Ripublican Party is doing come election time? Here we have politically engineered crisis after crisis manipulated to make the POTUS look bad, why and for what reason? Is it so they can destroy the county to regain power? Perhaps it is because they have to use these tactics because they have no idea of what to do if they do regain power, and if they have to campaign on the issues they are history! Too bad the party that I supported was taken over by a group of individuals who need power just for the sake of being in control! Ok, Ripublicans and tea boogers, "You may not have my part of this nation, and on top of that We the People want our country back from those that oppose any and all attempts to undo the damage that was done by the prior administration"!!

Oh boy, do I have a smirk on my face...............Who's not Americans? People that make you MAD? Classic......................it seems you and TRR really don't read these treads. I've seen people that say he is and I've seen more saying he's not, that includes me, I don't think he is. I think he's incompetent as a President, but hey, I must be un-American according to your twisted views.................oh by the way are those "opinions" or "personal attacks", I couldn't tell the difference.........................these posts are too funny!!!

"These ARE NOT Americans... these are self absorbed - selfish - petty - hate mongering - discriminatory LIARS just like the RNC!!!"

Crazyrooster:

Why would a president that is as smart as Obama even acknowledge obviously engineered crises that even an average joe like you can discern?

Unless, of course, he sees value in playing along?

crazyrooster1946 says..."You may not have my part of this nation, and on top of that We the People want our country back from those that oppose any and all attempts to undo the damage that was done by the prior administration"!!

Poor babies.. you have the Presidency and executive orders, both houses of Congress, two years, given more money than the GDP of rest of the world combined, and rather than show your accomplishments - you still complain.

Good I am not cynicle or I might conclude your ideas failed after a fair trial and, like a child, you are just looking for someone to blame. The hopes of the Country were on you - 76% started out supporting - now less than half hold on.

Time to lead, follow, or get out of the way.

Did you expect no one would queston you? Sitting and complaining is unbecomming a leader - so please - get out of the way in November.

Pat, one of the big issues with all these Conservative efforts. None of these people ever go away, they merely lie for a new advocacy group.

John, it's what they do. Lie. Fear mongering. Against their fellow Americans. When are they going to talk about bin Laden I wonder? Guess they didn't consider him dangerous enough. Best to just concentrate on President Obama being a Muslim. Taking the easy way out, as usual. Contemptible people these people are. We've seen it a million times. They're banking on the American people not being able to see through their crap. Propaganda. It works. People will believe just about anything. Where we go off the cliff is if the media doesn't hold them accountable.

"A body of men holding themselves accountable to nobody ought not to be trusted by anybody."
— Thomas Paine

Great post, Pat.

The American people deserve transparency; these groups should be required to state clearly who funded an ad or activity. I hope democrats pursue legislation; it is the only way to put a dent in the damage from the Citizens United Supreme Court decision.

Perhaps it was Glenn Greenwald I saw on MSNBC last evening, the name escapes me, but the guest said the same thing--it is the neoconservatives driving the mosque and anti-Muslim activities because their goal is perpetual war in the middle east.

The Iman stated in 2005 that America has more blood on our hands than bin Laden... a statement of an EXTREMIST. How many wives does the Iman have. How many SLAVES? Will the Mosque keep the slaves in the basement?

I know this is a Little off topic but thanks to the conservative court they will be able to do this in our elections now that big corps are free to contribute as much to candidates as they want with out telling us who they are they will give them selves patriotic names and we will not no that THEY are some big company or even some foreign government.

Carl I can only agree. The amount of money flooding the electoral system is highly damaging, and it's owed entirely to the crazy concept that money is speech.

I remember General Powell remarking that there were graves in Arlington Cemetery of Muslims who had died defending our country. This is so troubling to me--that so many people hate so blindly. And that so many people are willing to perpetuate a lie like this. I wouldn't want their karma, for sure.

Jody- it's not right, and we all know it, but it DOES matter. Witness the worry over JFK's religion. Over Romeney's religion. No, it's not right at all, but it remains an unfortunate fact- Americans WILL look down on another's religion. ESPECIALLY one that they percieve to be so different from their own. Leave it up to the immoral majority to take as much advantage of it as they can. I mean, what else do they really have??

Ann to think so many of us are so totally clueless that it will actually work.

Enjoyed your post. This is sad and pathetic. I cannot help wondering what kind of country we have become. It is disgusting when even newspapers help the wing nuts sell their nonsense as fact. Wonder if the Boston Herald another one of Rupert's papers.

The Boston Herald is a piece of crap and has been for a very long time. Most of their advertisers are gone. It's got a National Enquirer headlines feel to it. Always against the Democrats. They LOVED Scott Brown.

I don't know whether or not the President is a Christian or a Muslim.

His words say he is but his actions show something totally different. In the words of Mitch McConnell Ill take him at his words.

I would hate to be him if he is truely not a Christian and just using that term to get votes because if that is the case he has bigger problems then re-election or polls.

And to those of you who say he shouldnt have to prove it to anyone (if he truly does believe in the Gospel) Paul says in Romans that we are not to be ashamed of the Gospel. Unfortunately President Obama does seem ashamed of the Gospel.

I hope the President does not even respond to these idiots. It's just like last night watching KO show with Larry O and they keep repeating the damn lies, trying to show the lies for what they are, but if anyone looked at the show when the lie is repeated - before an explanation is given - it looks like Larry O (and Rachel and Ed) are saying exactly what Fox is saying. They ought to give it up. They don't need to repeat the lies in order to defend against them. They just need to say what is so, call the liars out, and move on with real news and real substance. It almost makes me sick to watch. It is bad enough to hear it elsewhere, but when Chris, Ed, et al. are mocking the rightwing nuts, or repeating everything Palin and Beck are saying, then they are saying it, too, and making it more ingrained. I wish they would give it up. Call a lie a lie, call the liars what they are, but quit repeating or showing Fox talking points. It serves no purpose but to say the lie over and over, and that is what people believe.

Right on, CA.

Good one, CA. It is a sad commentary on what politics has become. If it isn't where Pres Obama was born, it is that he is Muslim, If he had not spoken about the First Amendment religious freedom, they would have critized him for not speaking about it. It does not matter what President Obama does or does not do--the right will find fault just to find fault.

Its not what his faith is that have us upset.

Lets understand that first and foremost.

Its like everything else with him.....Everything has to be shrouded in secrecy. If he's a muslim come out and be proud of your faith. Same with if you are a Christian.

Just be honest with us once. Thats all people ask. Weve been lied to since day one of his administration about numerous things and this is just another thing that the American people feel as if he is being less than honest about.

Larry:

Then ask the man to be honest instead of you and all your friends running around claiming the man is a Muslim. I mean what is the point. There are many fine law abiding peaceful Muslims. Calling Obama a Muslim means nothing. Asking him to be up front about his beliefs is another thing altogther. It is those on the far right that are using the "Obama is a Muslim" accusation as a scare tactic. They seek no honesty from the man as you say. They seek nothing but to destory the man by labeling him something that they know part of their constituency think is something automatically bad and terrible.

So what if Obama came out and said ok Larry, I'l be honest. I',m a Muslim. Then what would you say or do.? Would you accept that and move on, or are you one of those who somehow correlate being a Muslim with being the devil or something as sinsiter?

ca i HAVE..... GO BACK AND LOOK AT SOME od my older posts. Ive said (paraphrasing):

I want him to come out and have a press conference and either declare that as a private citizen he believes that Jesus Christ died for the sins of all men or that he believes in the teachings of Mohammed or that he worships himself or the tree in the backyard.

Thats all Ive been asking for. Just to be completely honest with people.

If he believes in Allah then that is fine. If he believes in the panteon of Hindu gods then thats fine too. To each their own on that. My job is to only plant the seed God does the rest.

What would I do if he came out and said he was Muslim? I would first off pray that he realizes that the ONLY way to Heaven is through belief in Jesus Christ. Then I would pray for him as leader of this country like I have been. After that though I would be even more leary of him than I am now. Why you ask? I expect him (at this point) to lie to us about what he is trying to turn this country into. Lets be honest he is a politician and a community organizer. Those two equal liar. Lets just be honest....all politicians lie or massage the truth.

But this is not something that any person should lie about especially for political gain. If, after stating he is a Christian, came back and said "I was lying about that Jesus stuff I really believe in Allah" then I would never be able to blieve anything that came out of the man's mouth. Even on a sunny day if he told me the sky is blue I would have to go check for myself

Takes more than a handful to hold 12 million Slaves like the Muslims currenty do.

You say that all i want is that he hold a press conference and tell us if he is a christian or muslim.He has stated that he is a christian over and over. You may be able to kid your self the the truth is he could go to your house and tell you to your face and you would still post crap about his being a muslim. The point of all this crap is not to prove he is or is not it is about trying to give people that are looking for a reason to hate the man a reason.And from reading your post you all but admit that it does not matter what he says OR proves you will only think he is telling the truth IF HE SAY WHATS YOU WANT TO HEAR.

Well said!

Larry:

But Larry, there are millions of people who are good decent citizens of this country who do not believe that Jesus Christ is the only way to Heaven. Does that make them unAmerican or second class citizens somehow?

I respect your beliefs Larry but you have to separate the governance of this country from all religions, including yours. One is secular the other is a person's religion or spirtiuality. Even Jesus Christ said give onto Ceasar what is Ceasars.

No, I have not missed many of your posts Larry, but apparently you have missed some of Obama's public proclamations that he believes in the Christian God and that he thinks Jesus Christ is his savior. And I for one have not seen anything that would tell me that this personal realtionship between Obama and his God is not as he says just as I would not question what you claim to be a personal relationship between you and your God.

By the way Larry. Do you also question so vehemently all Christiians who worship their God on Sunday and then treat their fellow man like crap on Monday thru Saturday? And if you do then do you also so vehemently call for them to be honest with you about their religious beliefs. I'll bet you even have some fellow Church members Larry who behave like that. Do you confront these people as strongly as you have Obama?

Beverly:

But wait. How is calling Obama a Muslim or claiming that he uses a prayer rug to pray defame and slander Obama? Are we agreeing that it is bad and wrong for people to call Obama a Muslim? I think we are all missiing the point here. I think we should be confronting people on their prejudice, profiling and group projection when calling Obama a Muslim. The slander and defamation comes from that which people are assuming what being a Muslim means. That it is something terrible and to be feared. If Obama were a Muslim I would say fine, call him a Muslim, but stop with the accusatory tones when calling Obama a Muslim as if it is supposed to mean something terrible and bad.

CA,

The point I'm trying to make is many people are under the impression if the President is a Muslim; he then is akin to a Black Manchurian candidate.. They want to think he is in that position in the White House to destroy America according to these perceptions the same as Project 21. I know you are not surprised at all the slander and defamation, lies and the mindset the right has done in relationship to his birth certificate, the economy, the Constitution, and American values.
I see nothing wrong with being Muslim. I think rather than reqiring the President do a photo-op in a church. Let some one provide definitive proof of the President performing Muslim Rituals; perhaps then it could be laid to rest.

Beverly:

Then make the point that these folks have a predjudicial bent towards anyone Muslim. That they believe incorrectly that all Muslims want to destory the U.S. Confront them on that issue. But as far as calling Obama a Muslim my response would be so, so what. Lead them and let them (hopefully) see their own bias and unsubstantaniated emotional beliefs about Muslims. I'm sure many might even admit when confronted or prodded enough that they have Muslim friends. Heard that one before?

I also point out that those very same people who are calling Obama a Muslim are the ones who complained about Obama's Christian Pastor during the campaign. Rev. Wright was wrong on much of what he said and the haters of Obama were quick to point that out. The made no bones at the time that this Christian Pastor was Obama's pastor but somehow this, now Muslim, was attending Rev. Wright's church for more than a decade. Something doesn't make sense. Either he is a Christian attending Wright's church or a Muslim. Which is it right wing extremists, which is it?

I hope they realize just how stupid this makes them look.

President Obama is a Christian; whether he is Christian, Muslim, Jewish, Catholic or any other religion should and does not matter. The problem is that the right perpetrates what they know is a lie for political gain and they convince people that their lies are truth. They vilify the Islamic faith and all those who practice it just as they vilify illegal immigrants and gays--people to fear.

CA,
Beverly:

Then make the point that these folks have a predjudicial bent towards anyone Muslim. That they believe incorrectly that all Muslims want to destory the U.S. Confront them on that issue. But as far as calling Obama a Muslim my response would be so, so what. Lead them and let them (hopefully) see their own bias and unsubstantaniated emotional beliefs about Muslims. I'm sure many might even admit when confronted or prodded enough that they have Muslim friends. Heard that one before?

CA, I'm truly sorry you missed my point. I thought it was quite obvious!!

June, you don't mean Beck U history channel..lol.

Great post, June. Hard to believe that we're still fighting the religious wars, still fighting prejudice, still fighting hate.

No, he's NOT a Mexican Muslim. He's a doddering, forgetful, maverick-NOT-maverick Mexican Muslim.

I'm confused here. Are you insulting McCain or Mexicans or Muslims or Mexican-Muslims or horses or dementia victims?

LOL, ya, it's seems that way Richard. Oh hell this too funny!!!!!!! oh by the way KeepNreal, If you're born on a US Military base or an American Embassey you're an American citizen. It's American soil...

No Constitutional right to buld a house of worship where they please. 1920 Supreme Court decision regarding a church stated local zoning laws preempt the 1st amendment as the church can be bult down the road and it does not impede on freedom of religion. Why do liberals

(1) continue this lie?

(2) support a religion that holds 12 million slaves and allows men to marry multiple wives

(3) preaches hate against non-muslims?

If he has a pastor he is NOT a Muslim. OOps your own words hang you, buddy.

Road Warrior-1005773

There is no proof Obama is a Muslim.

Barack Hussein Obama's father was an aethist when the President was born in Hawaii. So actually, his father was not a Muslim. His father had rejected Islam and all religions. His mother was also an atheist. The President became Christian after being inspired by the community outreach Trinity Church did on the South side of Chicago. He married in a Christian Church and had his daughters baptized in a Christian church.

That is the proof

I am an atheist and have occasionally gone to church when invited by friends and neighbors. Does that make a Christian? A true Christian, I assume, wouldn't throw his pastor under the bus as Obama did. Ask Pastor Wright what he thinks of Obama?

Apparently agrees with his pastor that "America's chickens have come home to ROOST"

Whoa BOY!

Then you wonder why you are fondly referred to as the STUCK ON STUPID CROWD!

I won't bother to ask if you even read the sh!t you post before you hit submit... the proof's in the pudding there 'Road WHINER'! lol

Hey Road Kill--

There is no proof that you are capable of deductive reasoning or rational thought. Yet, somehow you have been allowed to co-exist with the human race without anyone talking about your religion, or using it as a means to determine whether or not you're an idiot, or employable or a Rethug operative. Why then is the president's religion an issue as he sets about managing the country's problems? By your reasoning are you then saying that if you are a Catholic I have every reason to conclude that you are a raging pedophile?

Oops, President Bush invited Muslims for Ramadan dinners at the White House, too.

Oops, President Obama's father was an atheist as was his mother.

Oops, America is not a Christian nation, it is a Religious nation (all religions welcome here, free to practice any religion of choice or not to practice any religion at all).

Oops, he lived in Indonesia, so what? John McCain was born outside of the U.S., does that matter? American missionaries live in Indonesia, China, Africa, etc--does that mean anything other than they live there?

Oops, did you watch the entire Rev Wright sermon to even know what he was speaking about regarding the "chickens come home to roost" remark? If you did, you would understand what he was talking about. One does not have to agree but one should have the entire sermon for context. Taking things out of context can construe the remarks to suit the need.

As for the rest, why bother; more taking words out of context.

Feisty,

What kind of work do you do? You seem to be the first poster on every article.

Why then is the president's religion an issue

Mad CT,

Because that is the topic of this article. Otherwise, I couldn't care less about his religion, just as I couldn't care less about the religion of the Morman who is about to kick the Muslim's ass in 2012.

Road Kill--

Huh? So a non-issue becomes an issue because it appears in an article?!? Obama is a Muslim although you acknowledge he has a pastor?!?! This is the sort of twisted logic that passes for common sense with you people trying to run this country...into the ditch! Please God, Bless America...With Smarter People.

Mad CT,

This article is attracting you and me because it is an issue. Democrats, Republicans, conservatives, liberals and independents alike don't know what Obama is. Look at the polls. The fact is that the voters elected someone whom nobody knows much about. In just a year and a half, we have learned quite a bit about him, religion excluded, and the independents who elected him are doing an about face. They cannot wait for the next 70 days to go by.

Otherwise, I couldn't care less about his religion, just as I couldn't care less about the religion of the Morman who is about to kick the Muslim's ass in 2012.

Mitt Romney has issues with his own party on the issue of religion.

"It was the base that rejected Mitt because it had issues with Mormonism." - Michael Steele, RNC Chairman - May 11, 2009 while guest-hosting The Bill Bennett Show.

Road Warrior,

Becareful she already labeled you on your "opinion", in her world if you disagree with her you're un-American and she'll call you a "Right Wing Nut", even though you're not a Republican.......I truly believe she's narcissistic, just look at her posts...................but hey it's just an opinion- right?

I suppose Kareem Abdul Jabbar or Muhammid Ali are in some sort of plot to overthrow the US Government. They are, after all Muslims. Are these men evil? Are they to be shunned or scorned by American society just because of their religious faith. They turned to Islam for reasons known only to them but one can suspect that Christianity was not providing them with their religious needs and Islam was better suited to their personal faith needs. To condemn all Muslims for the actions of a small fraction of the millions who are members of that faith would be like conemning Christianity for the actions of Timothy McVey or other such terrorists like him. Completely stupid.

Google Mountain Meadow Massacre Shall we blame all Mormons?

Beware, Phylicia Rashad is at this moment infiltrating the entertainment industry and waiting her moment in a California sleeper cell.

Right after 9/11, his pastor said with glee that "America's chickens have come home to ROOST". That kind of statement apparently did not offend Obama since he continued to go to the church for another seven years, and only left the church for political expediency. Obama may not want to destroy America, but his history has shown that he definitely wants to destroy what makes America the nation it is by, in his words, "fundamentally transform the country".

Got any pictures to prove President Obama was in church then? The right did their best to find them but came up empty--because he wasn't there.

Jody,

How many people you know take pictures at church while the preacher is doing his sermon?

Considering that the US spent so many $ supporting Bin Laden in Afghanistan and ultimately abandoned them, is that statement really an unfair statement? Considering how much money US corporations - including the Bush, Cheney, and Baker families - have made off Saudi and Middle East oil while millions of people continue to live in abject poverty, is that really an unfair statement? Considering how often the US has meddled in Middle East politics, including removing elected governments from power, is it really an unfair statement?

Look, did the individuals who died on 9/11 deserve to be murdered because of any of the above, of course not. I am merely pointing out that if we do not take the time to understand why those who oppose the government and corporations of this country do so, and are not willing to admit there are legitimate grievences, how can we correct anything?

In my mind, this is not about killing infidels as much as retaliation. This whole anti-muslim thing is just adding fuel to the fire.

Jody

Am I to believe you? Actually...no! Once again a right wing distortion/lie.

Jody

Sorry, I misinterpreted your post. My bad.

CA:

You sure seem to run into a lot of random scenarios.

Well since you're in Alabama, was he wearing a Confederate Flag sleeveless t-shirt and mossey oak overalls? Because if he was, I might believe you.......................

Calling Jeremiah Wright a Christian is like calling David Duke a Christian. I wonder what God thinks of him saying "God Damn America" in the house of worship on Sunday?

Road Warrior:

Tell you one thing my man. Love my country and fought for my country (and would die for my country) but there were a few times while laying in the jungles of Nam with blood suckers crawling all over me that I cursed this country (and the powers that be) for getting me into that mess.

Happy to report that in November we will not only be losing our minds but shouting for joy as the Republicans take over both the Senate and the House. Yes, itstoolate, it is too late. The wolf has lost his sheep's clothing and the majority of the American people who were duped with the snake oil of "hope and change" will usher those that buy into this elixir out of Congress. By Harry, take a back seat Nancy, see you later Bawney........

Gawd, this is the worst shape the country has been in since both the white house and both houses of congress were controlled (with super majorities in the Senate and House) by the Democrats duing the Carter years. Who would have thought that there could be a worse president than old Jimmy? Unfortunately, we've got one now!

I'm happy to report that you have a huge disappoint coming your way Moore.

This the worst shape the country has been in since Carter? I wonder why? Explain please. You so handily bring up Carter so I guess I can feel free to say it was in ruination before PRESIDENT OBAMA was even sworn in..via George W Bush and cronies.

The Supreme Court in 1920 ruled that local zoning has the ability to determine where houses of worship are built and that this is not a 1st amendment issue because the house of worship can be built in another local area. Thus it does not breech the Constitution.

The Muslims have no Constitutional right to build a Mosque on that exact site. Furthermore, the exact site/building that is there was hit directly by the landing gear of one of the airlines the Muslims destroyed, and is for all purposes a part of the World Trade Center itself.

The Iman in 2001 stated we are as much at fault as bin laden. In 2005 he stated the US has more blood on it's hands than bin Laden. This Iman is a complete EXTREMIST. He stated recently he will take money from Saudi's that wish to donate-- that means he could take money from the same people that donated money to bin Laden for the 911 murders.