Carter to North Korea

AP

Former President Jimmy Carter speaks in April.


Former President Jimmy Carter is heading to North Korea in an attempt to rescue Aijalon Mahli Gomes -- a 30-year-old Boston man sentenced to eight years in prison in North Korea for crossing the border from China. The White House and State Department are not commenting on the trip to avoid jeopardizing getting Gomes home.

On background, a senior administration official says anyone going would be doing so as a private humanitarian effort. Clearly, though, the administration is aware of the trip.

In June 1994, Carter went to North Korea to begin talks with former leader Kim Il Sung without fully coordinating with then-President Bill Clinton or his national-security team.

Officials say Carter's mission is modeled on Clinton's successful trip last year to win the release of Al Gore's Current TV reporters Laura Ling and Euna Lee. Carter will most likely spend one night in North Korea, and they hope return with Gomes.

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Any bets how many times we see 'Carter was the worst President in history until Obama came along' or something to that effect out of the right wing nitwits???

When In FACT President Carter was ONE of the best Presidents we ever had - he was WAY ahead of the times... see oil consumption - energy independence - alternative energy etc...

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Reply#1 - Tue Aug 24, 2010 11:33 AM EDT

sure, Fiesty-and creating a new economic experience was one of his greatest achievements. Until Carter, there had never been any such circumstance as stagflation. In fact, the models up until then 'proved' that one could not have high unemployment AND high inflation simultaneously. Maybe that's when they should have given him his Nobel prize.

Let's not forget his magnificent energy policy-when the mountain states like Wyoming did not have enough storage facilities for all the gas being shipped to them, while on both coasts, people were sitting in gas lines. He thought that the distribution was unfair.

Then, of course, there was his championing of that 'great man of peace' - the Ayatollah Khomeini. Can't even imagine what the middle east would look like if he had been allowed to die in obscurity in Paris, rather than Carter forcing the Shah to let him back into Iran.

As to his current mission: I feel for the poor soul he is going to 'save'. Face it-Carter is no Clinton.

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#1.1 - Tue Aug 24, 2010 11:44 AM EDT

Fiesty,

I am no fan of Jimmy Carter nor do I wish to talk about the clown.

Your assertion had to be the worst I have heard in reference to Carter ever. I have never heard anyone but YOU refer to him as one of the BEST POTUS ever. He is a long way from that. Apparently you were very young and didn't know anything about politics when he was POTUS.

lol.....Carter the best.........you had better keep that opinion in the midst of your little liberal buddies otherwise you will get clowned with that remark....lol

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#1.2 - Tue Aug 24, 2010 11:48 AM EDT

Actually in the middle, Jimmy Carter was a great president and is a good man, of course there were a lot of things going against him, and that little deal in Iran did not help - myself, I did not care if those people came home or not, they knew where they were going when the accepted the job and the possible consequences that came with it. And I have always been outraged that we gave up a real "family values" man for one who was a whoremonger with two living spouses - now thats some family values for ya, isnt' it? wink, wink! The meaning of family values does not mean how man families you have, it means staying with your original family, raising your adopted kids, not getting your mistress pregnant and leaving your family to marry her, then not letting those kids have any contact with the 1st set until they were almost grown (read patti's book - it is a tell all juicy book for sure!). So when anyone in the republican party starts to spout family values to me I always use Carter and Reagan as a reference - yep, our country started going down hill quickly when we traded down. Heck, why wouldn't Bill Clinton think adultry was acceptable? It is something the GOP has promoted rather lovingly for many years (reagan, mccain, gingrich).

And there is no comparison to the tinsel town slut with First Lady Carter - she (Rosalin)outclasses nancy at every turn.

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#1.3 - Tue Aug 24, 2010 12:15 PM EDT

I love Jimmy Carter. And always will.

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#1.4 - Tue Aug 24, 2010 12:21 PM EDT

If we had listened to Carter and continued with many of his ideas for energy independence (instead of having Reagan trash them all) we'd be 30 years ahead of the game.

Sure there were things about his presidency that many didn't like - all administrations deal with this. But - we SHOULD have listened to him about energy.

Personally - I think Carter is one of THE best ex-presidents we've ever seen. He and his wife continue to work tirelessly on our behalf. (None of the elders in my family could hold a tee to Carter at his age.)

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#1.5 - Tue Aug 24, 2010 1:38 PM EDT

Union:

How do you even know I'm a Republican? Where did I ever push family values in my remarks? Don't give me that generic 'ALL" Republicans do it because they don't.

I could care less how many women a politician has. They ALL; Democrat and Republican play around with women. You ever heard "Don't hate the player, hate the game".

A GOOD MAN does not equate to a GOOD POTUS. You sound like you are a victim of the game.....lol

    #1.6 - Tue Aug 24, 2010 2:22 PM EDT

    Let's not forget that the lefty liberal's icon, the Hero of Chappaquiddick, Ted Kennedy, thought Carter was such a great President that he ran against him in the 1980 Democrat Presidential primaries.

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    #1.7 - Tue Aug 24, 2010 2:43 PM EDT

    Presidents Obama and Carter are both Nobel Peace Prize winners. I wonder what PEACE efforts were ever made by George W. Bush? Anyway, I am glad that private citizen and diplomat former President Jimmy Carter can and will do so much humanitarian work.

    As President, Carter was so-so, but as a human being he is stellar. We need more people like him.

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    #1.8 - Tue Aug 24, 2010 2:59 PM EDT

    alder,poor poor alder. jimmy "Liver Lips" carter and barrak "The Teleprompter Prince" are the two worst POTUS this nation has ever in it's history had.

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    #1.9 - Tue Aug 24, 2010 3:52 PM EDT
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    Feisty lives in such a lovely, drug stupored, rose colored glasses kind of world. Unfortunately, it's not on planet earth. Well, fortunately, for the rest of us. Feisty breathing regular people's air would be a waste.

      Reply#2 - Tue Aug 24, 2010 11:44 AM EDT

      Some accomplishments as president:

      Panama Canal treaties

      • Camp David Accords
      • treaty of peace between Egypt and Israel
      • the SALT II treaty with the Soviet Union
      • establishment of U.S. diplomatic relations with the People's Republic of China
      • comprehensive energy program conducted by a new Department of Energy
      • deregulation in energy, transportation, communications, and finance
      • educational programs under a new Department of Education
      • environmental protection legislation, including the Alaska National Interest Lands Conservation Act.

      During his presidency, he was frequently mocked -- this was undeserved, a political ploy by his opponents-- and as a result he has been undervalued in the U.S. The Nobel Prize committee, however, awarded the Peace Prize to him for his continuing efforts. From Wiki

      Let me know if any of these things are untrue.

      ______________

      President Carter was 10x the President that Reagan or Nixon or GWB was. Reagan sold this country down the river. And we all know about Nixon and GWB.

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      Reply#3 - Tue Aug 24, 2010 11:52 AM EDT

      So far... 2 and counting...

      I knew the right wing clowns wouldn't disappoint me...

      Thanks Pat! I didn't have time to pull the info... but I knew I could count on you! ;0)

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      #3.1 - Tue Aug 24, 2010 12:08 PM EDT

      Feisty, There's tons I could write about Jimmy Carter, but can't be bothered any longer. People love to believe the worst in any Democrat; but Republicans - tough on terror, conservative in all things economic. It's all BS. Every single bit of it.

      But judging from the remarks by some of these right leaning posters here, I honestly don't give a **** what they think. They keep voting for jackasses, because they believe the nonsense coming out of Fox and Limbaugh. They learn nothing. And never will. Give them a guy on a horse and a cowboy hat and they're sold.

      You know, like John Wayne.

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      #3.2 - Tue Aug 24, 2010 12:12 PM EDT

      Sure, Pat.

      Let's start with what is untrue: diplomatic relations with China were restored by NIXON, not Carter. Philip Glass even wrote an opera "Nixon in China' about it.

      SaltII was such a disastrous giveaway to the Soviets that the Senate did not pass it.

      He did not de-regulate anything-that was Reagan.

      That comprehensive new energy program at the Department of Energy? All he did was further regulate the distribution system. Thus, the Mountain states were swimming in gas, while those of us on the coasts were sitting in gas lines. See, he thought that the distribution system was 'unfair'. His evidence? Gas prices were higher in states farther from the major storage facilites, read, the coastal states.

      New programs from his newly inaugurated Education department? Well, let history be your guide there: have a look at what test scores have done since the federal government began meddling in education-a local issue if there ever was one. Have another little gander at costs. You might be surprised to learn that adding an additional layer of bureaucrats to education has inflated the cost, but most sane people are not.

      I'll give him some credit for the Camp David accords-but even you must admit that the Egyptians were ready for peace with Israel at that time, as the wars between the two had been very costly for them; not to mention that they lost every time they engaged.

      As for Alaska-I admit I don't know enough about it to comment. So, you have one truth, one I don't know, and the rest, either false or failures.

      About sums up Carter's presidency.

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      #3.3 - Tue Aug 24, 2010 12:15 PM EDT

      Very good Pat, and all so true - Jimmy Carter is one great American and one great family man. I was a single working woman when he took office, we had a new Democratic governor in our state - that was such a good thing for me that I was able to afford to buy not one but three houses, sell two and make enough profit to almost pay for the 3rd one. Something i could have only dreamed about when tricky dick was in office - but we all know the main reason the repugnants were so after Carter was because he is a Christian, he lives his religion, and they were still furious over dickie's little watergate episode in American history. Not that they minded his sin, they just hated that he got caught!

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      #3.4 - Tue Aug 24, 2010 12:18 PM EDT

      I hear you Pat!

      Sure enough the 'carp' comes along below you with her bait... my advice... ignore her... maybe if she can EVER say a nice thing about anyone or anything I'll start to pay attention again... or when she can post some sources to back up her delusional opinion's!

      Personally... I've had more than enough of her daily dose of HATE-OR-AID!

      We have much to accomplish and I'm tired of playing with the Debbie Downers & Gloomy Gus's!

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      #3.5 - Tue Aug 24, 2010 12:23 PM EDT

      Look at that-I overlooked your 'small case' Panama Canal 'treaty'.

      Yeah, there was an overwhelming success at great odds of failure of Carter's. I mean, what are the odds of being able to give away something you had spent years, not to mention blood and treasure, to build and maintain?

      • 2 votes
      #3.6 - Tue Aug 24, 2010 12:30 PM EDT

      Feisty, the "ignore" button is alive & kicking. I have no idea what any of them say to me and have absolutely no desire to know. It would be the same as watching Fox Propaganda, which as well I ignore.

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      #3.7 - Tue Aug 24, 2010 12:34 PM EDT

      You guys like to ignore no joe but she is telling the truth; something you all don't want to hear about old sweater wearing azz Carter.

      Carter needs to go sit his old butt on the porch and count the trucks going by.

      Speaking of the Panama Canal from someone who was stationed in Panama. That was one of the stupidest ideas and look what it has gotten us. Tarriffs out of the ying yang if you dont want to sail all the way around South America.

      • 1 vote
      #3.8 - Tue Aug 24, 2010 2:29 PM EDT

      I noticed you didn't mention his brilliant handling of the 52 Americans held hostage in Iran for 444 days??

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      #3.9 - Tue Aug 24, 2010 2:46 PM EDT

      Do you know that it was Jimmy Carter that actually negotiated the release of the hostages even at the expense of his own political career? Opportunist, Ronald Reagan made hay of the event but he was not in a position to do anything but Carter was and did make it possible for the hostages to be released after the inaugeration of the new president.

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      #3.10 - Tue Aug 24, 2010 3:05 PM EDT

      Pat your forgot to mention that he granted amnisty to all the deserters, and draft dodgers from the Vietnam war! The only heroes and parades came right out of Canada; the little bastard need's to die in Korea; there are several million of us, and 59,000 on a wall in DC that won't miss him; I hope he takes Hanoi Jane with him!!!!!!!!!!

        #3.11 - Tue Dec 21, 2010 8:01 PM EST
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        IntheMiddle, TX

        What is so confusing to you, the too whinny, whinny, troll here; bro?

        Carter kept US out of a war too in addition to accomplishments listed by Pat. What did Raygun do besides burst the bubble?

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        Reply#4 - Tue Aug 24, 2010 12:10 PM EDT

        Reagan vs Carter, give me a break not even close. Reagan brought back pride in America and the end to the Soviet Union and the Berlin Wall. The only thing about Jimmy Carter I remember was his failed mission to Iran and the Iran Hostage situation, which where it not for one faithfull decision kept me from being a recipient of the POW medal as a member of the Technical Assistance Field Team in Tehran. The only thing Jimmy Carter did was take home interest rates to 18 percent and make America look weak.

        • 1 vote
        #4.1 - Tue Aug 24, 2010 1:54 PM EDT

        Beverly,

        You keep believing that BS. Carter was a wuss. America had no pride during that era. You was probably still wet behind the ears then.

        Stay out of grown folks conversations.

          #4.2 - Tue Aug 24, 2010 2:31 PM EDT
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          Jimmy who?

          Is he still alive?

          Regardless, he's still as irrelevant as he was when he was President.

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          Reply#5 - Tue Aug 24, 2010 12:20 PM EDT

          NoJo - you are really young aren't you? I lived that book, and I don't remember it being anything like you spout off. Yes Reagun deregulated the industry - glad you mentioned it, guess what that set us up for? Yes indeed, the big melt down of 2008 - and we are going to be paying for that foolisness for a long, long time.

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          Reply#6 - Tue Aug 24, 2010 12:21 PM EDT

          Yep. When your party has no ideas, and hangs out with malcontents like the Tea Baggers, and your guy screwed the country up beyond repair, and you have nothing else going for you, BLAME CARTER!

          • 4 votes
          Reply#7 - Tue Aug 24, 2010 12:31 PM EDT

          yet, not even 2 years after the disaster that was bush, we can't even mention his name lest the reicht starts screaming how we are 'blaming bush' again.

          He was so bad for the US that when my 3 year old grandson's children are old enough to understand i will be denigrating the Bush administration memory to them!

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          Reply#8 - Tue Aug 24, 2010 1:25 PM EDT

          I like the way the little bastard granted amnisty to all the deserters, and draft dodgers from the Vietnam war; the only heroes, and the only parades came out of canada; he needs to die in N Korea they are his kind!!

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