Obama, a Christian, for the record (again)

NBC's Mike Viqueira, who is traveling with the president in Martha's Vineyard, reports that on the heels of polls showing a substantial number of Americans either don't know what religion President Obama is, or think -- falsely -- that he's a Muslim, the White House is out with a statement on the president's Christian faith and what it means to him.

Attributed to Jen Psaki, White House deputy communications director:

President Obama is a committed Christian, and his faith is an important part of his daily life. He prays every day, he seeks a small circle of Christian pastors to give him spiritual advice and counseling, he even receives a daily devotional that he uses each morning. The President's Christian faith is a part of who he is, but not a part of what the public or the media is focused on everyday.

The poll's findings are not surprising given the scope of the issues we are focused on-a recovering economy, bringing troops home from Iraq, putting healthcare and financial reform implementation in place. The President's strong Christian faith is what guides him through these challenges but he doesn't wear it on his sleeve.

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Every time a Republican Lies, a devil gets his horns.

Every time the President reduces himself to addressing the Smears - a poll somewhere gives NoJo a little goosebump.

Americans are absurd. This issue is absurd. I hope this response was up to the task.

  • 16 votes
Reply#1 - Thu Aug 19, 2010 2:13 PM EDT

Agreed Clara, why does the WH reduce itself to the level of Ignorance displayed by the Gullible Idiots, who spew this Crap.

Was George Bush a Secret DumbA$$ or just a DumbA$$ by Birth, with the best part of him running done his daddys leg?

  • 9 votes
#1.1 - Thu Aug 19, 2010 2:45 PM EDT

Wow-

If this is the level of discourse from the left when they enjoy control of the White House, and both Houses of Congress...

Imagine what they'll be saying after Election Day in November.

  • 5 votes
#1.2 - Thu Aug 19, 2010 2:51 PM EDT

Earlier I made the comment that these right wing nitwits SHOULD be ashamed of themselves...

After reading some of the insane cr@p that has been posted since - I want to set the record straight and say that I AM the one who is ashamed of what passes as intellegence these days in this country!

*shakes head*

  • 8 votes
#1.3 - Thu Aug 19, 2010 3:07 PM EDT

Every time a Republican lies, Sarah's cash register goes 'Ding'.

  • 7 votes
#1.4 - Thu Aug 19, 2010 3:08 PM EDT

Clara:

You are right of course. The President should remain above this absurdity, however, the MSM keeps coming out with these dreaded polls on a regular basis that reflect a growing number of Americans actually BELIEVE the President is Muslim. That most folk believe the President to be a Christian is not enough. There is a right wing agenda that seeks to ramp up the fear factor about the scary Black Man in the White House who is a Muslim and everybody knows America is at war with the the Muslim world.

The whole thing is ridiculous!

  • 7 votes
#1.5 - Thu Aug 19, 2010 4:18 PM EDT

Again, stupid is as stupid does....first off all your Christian haters out there, who cares what he is to begin with. You are all just the most hypocrital people on the face of the earth, you stupid Glenn Becks and Lush Baughs. Who cares if Kennedy was Catholic (now); who cares if Mitt Romney is a Mormom; who cares who is Protestant, Catholic, Jewish (6 of THEM on the Supreme Court - get your panties all in a bunch Sarah). Who cares who is Muslim or who is not? This is just the new witch hunt of the far right.

I was a practicing Catholic for approximately 19 years (that includes infanthood and childhood and teenagerhood). I have been a non-practicing Catholic for approximately 48 years. Now I must say I do have enough superstitution that just in case, I had all my kids ranging in age from 48 years to 40 baptized when they were infants, just in case....I will touch all the bases and I occasionally knock on wood. I have on a few occasions attended other churches or my own birth church. But I have no great knowledge that one church is better than the other, or that not being a churchgoer does not bestows god's blessings on anyone, if there is a god! I know, you religious nuts are all waiting for me to be struck by lightning right through the keyboard, but if I believe anything at all, I believe in the golden rule, I believe in being my best self, I believe in giving others a chance no matter the color of their skin, their sexual orientation, their religion, and I do believe that if there is a god he would like my way better than those that condemn everyone and everything for not "believing" just as they do. I believe that religion is a way to control the masses from centuries ago. I believe that finding someone "other" to hate is a nasty human predilection, rather than a god-given decree. I believe that drones who never think about what they do and why they do it are the same as any evil unintelligent fool. And I find sometimes that the more religious are even worse, because they hide their evil behind their religion. Do you know anyone like that?

  • 9 votes
#1.6 - Thu Aug 19, 2010 4:42 PM EDT

Taqiyya

    #1.7 - Thu Aug 19, 2010 6:49 PM EDT

    I believe that the true American Jihadis, those who would destroy our constitution, take away our rights, and foment hatred and violence in this country are the Palins, the Becks, Limbaughs, Angles, Pauls, and those that believe, hang on, and repeat every lie these American Jihadists say. Those that cannot think for themselves will follow any hateful evil person who can convince them that someone is taking something from them, even though they are not, or that someone is different than they are, even though we are all human beings. Those you should fear are these treasonous, evil-doers. They are as bad as those that George Bush referred to as evil-doers. They are doing to this country what the Islamic Jihadists failed to do.

    • 4 votes
    #1.8 - Thu Aug 19, 2010 7:03 PM EDT

    I find myself defending the President quite frequently. Still, he has let me down on a number of issues that weighed heavily in my decision to vote for him. I want single-payer. Didn't get it. I wanted Gitmo closed. Didn't get it. I wanted serious teeth in the bank reform bill. Didn't get it. I'm feeling pretty down about that.

    Now, as a serious atheist, am I supposed to be reassured because he prays to the invisible guy in the sky?

    I am a registered Independent. I'm not the snivelling me-me-me Teabag "independent" egocentric model. I'm not the "what-have-you-done-for-me lately" model. I'm sure as hell not the "What? You haven't solved all America's problems in 15-minutes" model. I'm the real deal independent.

    Dammit, Mr. President, give me a reason to vote for you again. There's no way I'm voting for these insane right-wing reactionaries, but I am not obligated to hold my nose and go for the lesser of two evils. That's been going on too long.

    Praying? PRAYING? Get off your damned knees and fight.

    • 5 votes
    #1.9 - Thu Aug 19, 2010 8:42 PM EDT

    Obama is no more a Christian than I am a Muslim. He has stated he is a Muslim. He has stated he is a Kenyon. He has stated he wasn't born in America. So is he a liar or are you a fool that doesn't believe him?

    Admitting he is a muslim

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCAffMSWSzY

    Admitting he is a Kenyon http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Se5zvGF6u9g
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdxbjlrdMVU

    • 1 vote
    #1.10 - Fri Aug 20, 2010 12:07 AM EDT

    Mixed Bag,

    I've always loved your ability to pick up on nuance. Don't you think from the stats in this article it was OBVIOUS that 'discourse' would be unattainable? Thus the OUTRAGEOUS lead. And here I thought you knew how the snark meter worked and all that. Either you're slipping, or my subtlety has taken new depths. Imma go with you are slipping. I have NEVER been subtle.

      #1.11 - Fri Aug 20, 2010 12:11 AM EDT

      Clara, I believe you are absurd and you believe his bs lock, stock and barrel. You are too young to understand what that means so look at the polls. Obama has the lowest ratings for any mid term president in decades. The only people, and I use the term loosely, that believe he is a good man are those that want something for nothing, at the expense of the earners. His true colors have been shown.

      The majority know he is an idiot and the minority believe him to be some sort of god, clinging to him because they are too stupid to see. You listen to the main stream media and everyone else sees him as only fluff.

      Unfortunately, the ignorant will continue to vote for fluff because they are too lazy to work, need a union to support them, and won't try to make it on their own. Ride that donkey.

        #1.12 - Fri Aug 20, 2010 12:24 AM EDT

        Well, that's certainly a mouthful of stereotypes and invectives. I hope you feel better after your rant. I certainly feel vindicated in my initial statement and subsequent follow up.

        You don't know me, you don't know my life; but suffice it to say that your perception of me being a donkey riding, too lazy to work and too stupid to see Democrat is completely off base. And thanks to the enlightenment of your post I have an equal amount of disdain for you. Thanks for playing to 'type'.

        PS. Your G-d is watching you,...was that really your best Christian face?

        • 1 vote
        #1.13 - Fri Aug 20, 2010 12:47 AM EDT

        Mr. Obama by his fruit, clearly only pays lip service to the term christian. Please pray that His eyes may be opened to the truth.

          #1.14 - Fri Aug 20, 2010 12:55 AM EDT
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          Sad thing is, there are enough people that would rather hang on to their hate than accept the facts and move on. It's easier to hate "a muslim" (for some odd reason) with this ilk.

          Sometimes our species disappoints the hell out of me...

          • 9 votes
          Reply#2 - Thu Aug 19, 2010 2:17 PM EDT

          Don't you dare call Howard Dean and Harry Reid haters. They're part of your "species"...aren't they?

          • 3 votes
          #2.1 - Thu Aug 19, 2010 2:54 PM EDT

          Mixed Bag, Would you please step up and say that all of this "Obama is a Muslim" stuff is craziness? Someone from the right really needs to step in a defend sanity here. This is like when some of the crazier lefties start saying 9/11 was an inside job. I have called out crazy lefties for make ridiculous statements like that and would really appreciate someone on the right calling these people out now.

          • 6 votes
          #2.2 - Thu Aug 19, 2010 3:44 PM EDT

          Mike

          Hate a Muslim. No. But, hate something that advocates pedophilia and wife beating.

          Joys of Muslim Women
          by Nonie Darwish

          In the Muslim faith a Muslim man can marry a child as young as 1 year old and have sexual intimacy with this child, consummating the marriage by 9. The dowry is given to the family in exchange for the woman (who becomes his slave) and for the purchase of the private parts of the woman, to use her as a toy.

            #2.3 - Thu Aug 19, 2010 6:51 PM EDT

            Actually, Charles-

            My best guess is that President Obama is actually an agnostic. I think he's pretty ambivalent about religion, generally.

            I do, however, believe that the President, having spent a significant portion his childhood living in a Muslim country, is more comfortable with Islam than most Americans...this is understandable, given his background. But, it also makes him more of a devil's advocate (please...not literally) where religious allegiance is concerned.

            But no...I don't believe President Obama is a Muslim.

            I found it interesting that, according to Pew Research, 10% of Democrats believe that President Obama is a Muslim.

            Interesting.

            • 1 vote
            #2.4 - Thu Aug 19, 2010 7:52 PM EDT

            Koobee - you also have a "Christian" woman running for the Senate in Nevada that would like to see a country that forces a girl to have the child after being raped by her father. Not to much of a streatch from what you are discussing, wouldn't you say?

            I deplore the thought of either situation. I'm just stating that, when you are in the process of condemning a religion, you may want to check your own house first. I love an America that insists that child molestation be punnished to the full extent of the law AND an America that does NOT insist that a molested girl give birth to her father's child.

            • 1 vote
            #2.5 - Thu Aug 19, 2010 8:01 PM EDT

            Koobee, there for a minute I thought you were talking about Catholicism. Do you see any amount of irony that I was confused?

            • 1 vote
            #2.6 - Thu Aug 19, 2010 11:52 PM EDT

            Thank you Mixed Bag. I agree with you that he is probably agnostic but he could never admit it while he is in politics.

              #2.7 - Fri Aug 20, 2010 7:40 AM EDT

              Charles from IL.....

              I agree, this whole thing is stupid. Whether he is or isn't doesn't make much difference because there isn't much that can be done about it either way. I do question however why he said what he said about the Mosque if they knew this would be the reaction. Probably because this publicity is stupid and it takes away from other political moves. When ever there is a big story line the politicians use it for cover from other issues they push through.

              Just because someone attends a church doesn't make them religious, I attended a Morman church for years without being a Morman and I have attended a Presbyterian church and I didn't belong to it. What does it all matter?!

              • 1 vote
              #2.8 - Fri Aug 20, 2010 1:16 PM EDT

              You're right about his religion doesn't matter. It absolutely does not matter; however, fact that so many Americans think he is a Mulsim is very disturbing. I think he said what he said about the mosque becuase he honestly felt it was the right thing to do.

              • 1 vote
              #2.9 - Fri Aug 20, 2010 3:53 PM EDT

              I have to say that it is very racist to simply deal with muslims as if they are the devil. all muslims are not jihadist but people who believe in a different god than christian. I was raised up christian but do I believe all the crap that comes from that religion? no I don't there are parables and good learning from christianity but as a whole they are some of the most corrupt and hypocritical people you know. Now i am no muslim but I have studied with so many different religions that I think god is in them all and its simply a matter of where you are from that dictates your prferences in who you acknowledge as god. christians need to get off that kick that they are the only true religion and everything else is tainted. i doubt jesus would appreciate all the hate and ill will geared toward muslims.

              • 1 vote
              #2.10 - Tue Aug 24, 2010 1:45 PM EDT

              ...people who believe in a different god than christian.

              Actually, they believe in the same diety, just in a different interpretation. Abraham, Moses, David, &c &c all appear in Islamic thought as prophets, much in the same way they do in both Christian and Jewish thought. Jesus appears as a prophet, though not as a savior-figure, much the same way as he does not appear in Jewish thought as a savior...

              As far as I can tell, it's "house rules"-- some games the jacks are wild, some games the aces... either way, the odds are always with the dealer.

              • 1 vote
              #2.11 - Tue Aug 24, 2010 7:15 PM EDT
              Reply

              Yet the 7 in 10 Republicans that believe he is Muslim are the same ones complaining about all the years Mr. Obama spent in Rev. Wright’s "Trinity United Church of Christ" church.

              • 12 votes
              #3 - Thu Aug 19, 2010 2:18 PM EDT

              The same church that spewed hatred towards this country and white people...

              • 4 votes
              #3.1 - Thu Aug 19, 2010 2:22 PM EDT

              Christian??? Lets see. He ignores National Prayer day but takes time to attend, and actively participate, in a National Muslim Holiday. Open your eyes America!

              • 8 votes
              #3.2 - Thu Aug 19, 2010 2:33 PM EDT

              Christian??? Lets see. He ignores National Prayer day but takes time to attend, and actively participate, in a National Muslim Holiday. Open your eyes America!

              ...and, thus, the GOP assault on the Constitution continues.

              Next Target: Article VI, Section 3 - "no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States"

              • 8 votes
              #3.3 - Thu Aug 19, 2010 2:45 PM EDT

              NY Mark, you are kidding right? national prayer day? that's your argument? never even heard of it before. Maybe Mark from NY needs to open his eyes and that little thing called his brain. dope

              • 7 votes
              #3.4 - Thu Aug 19, 2010 2:53 PM EDT

              The constitution destroyers are out in force this afternoon.

              You wouldn’t care what ones religion is if you truly believe in our constitution.

              This is one of our premier founding principal.

              • 8 votes
              #3.5 - Thu Aug 19, 2010 2:54 PM EDT

              These idiots remind me of Constitutional quarterbacks!

              Constitution be damned - when it doesn't fit into my preconceived principles!!!

              • 7 votes
              #3.6 - Thu Aug 19, 2010 3:12 PM EDT

              Why does it matter what religion a President would or would not practice? So what if he were a Muslim?

              If some of you would be honest enough and said I hate Muslims and I hate that we have a black President, I would consider you at least honest however much I would disagree with you.

              it is my guess that before 9/11, most of you never knew what a muslim might be, and it is a sure bet you knew nothing about their religion. How many of you studied comparative religions in high school? I doubt not many, get yourselves some education, do some reading instead of reading stupid emails passed around by hateful people. Read the Constitution.

              Stop listening to radio and tv rightwing agitators, who feed you this nonsense and play into your insecurities by feeding you this garbage. All they do is give you something or someone to hang your hatred on and this makes you feel superior or so you think.

              • 12 votes
              #3.7 - Thu Aug 19, 2010 3:25 PM EDT

              Dennis,

              Most of us don't care about what faith Obama claims to be. Most people are proud of their faith and "don't wear it on their sleeve". Obama's secrecy regarding so many areas of his life leave so many things unanswered which is the reason so many have no idea who this man is. He has lied on many occasions that you can't take what he says at face value. Liberation theology and the governments redistribution of wealth is no where in the Gospels, but that is what one has to conclude by Obama's history and his own speeches have declared. No one knows squat about this man, which obviously this polls prove, but you on the left keep propping him up as if he is Jesus reincarnated.

              In God We Trust

              • 6 votes
              #3.8 - Thu Aug 19, 2010 3:36 PM EDT

              Beautifully said... Gingerbread Mamma!

              What I can't comprehend is WHY NOT one of the more 'reasonable' Republican's have called them out on this nonsense?

              It only reinforces my idea about the right wing nitwits being lemmings...

              • 4 votes
              #3.9 - Thu Aug 19, 2010 3:45 PM EDT

              Enough,
              Perhaps if you took the time to read some of the books and articles by reporters that have traveled with Mr. Obama during his campaign and since he was elected you would learn much about this President.

              • 4 votes
              #3.10 - Thu Aug 19, 2010 4:02 PM EDT

              Thank you Fiesty,

              The silence of the so called Republican leaders on anything negative about the President is deafening.

              Not one, not now, not at any time since Ms. Sarah started out on the GOP ticket approx. 2 yrs ago spewing her hate and inciting people to forget their comman decency, has there been one GOPer who has discounted her and the followers she spawned.

              She gave so many licence to hate and for that John MCCain and the rest of the so called leaders on the right have that as their legacy, one of which they appear to rather proud of.

              • 6 votes
              #3.11 - Thu Aug 19, 2010 4:32 PM EDT

              enoughsenough,

              You said "In God We Trust"; do you actually believe that??? I'm a Christian, I'll tell you that who in da world cares what religion he his? Remember? Freedom of religion? that's the foundation of America, that's the precise reason for America; so before you say "In God We Trust" remember the true foundation of America and not your stupid rants~!!!

              As for me and my christian faith, I'll always try to be "my brother's keeper" and if the president shares the same ideology with me, good, that's why I voted for him. "In God and only God, I'll Trust" - and I really mean it.

              It's so sickening that most repubs claim to be Christian and dont believe in Health Care for all; or that those of us that have need to help out those of us that don't. I'm rational and a lil moderate, so I believe the progressive tax system we have in this country - it's a middle line approach i.e. not communism or extreme capitalism.

              Please remember what Jesus stood for, before you spew such hatefule rants.. ???? COMMON~!! MY BROTHER's KEEPER..

              SHEESSHHHHHHHHHHH

              • 1 vote
              #3.12 - Thu Aug 19, 2010 5:37 PM EDT

              The media controls the debate

              • 2 votes
              #3.13 - Thu Aug 19, 2010 6:11 PM EDT

              Does the Constitution protect a religion that advocates pedophilia and wife beating?????

                #3.14 - Thu Aug 19, 2010 6:53 PM EDT

                Dennis, Columbus, Ohio-

                Actually, Dennis...according to a survey completed by Pew Research this month (and released today), 31% of Republicans believe that President Obama is a Muslim. So, that's about 3 in 10, Dennis...

                NOT 7 in 10.

                In case you're interested, Pew also found that 10% of Democrats believe that President Obama is a Muslim...1 in 10.

                Too many, in either case.

                  #3.15 - Thu Aug 19, 2010 8:02 PM EDT

                  Mixed Bag,

                  the article referenced was 20% of Americans and OF THOSE 70% are Republicans,...just 'clara'fying.

                  • 1 vote
                  #3.16 - Thu Aug 19, 2010 11:55 PM EDT
                  Reply

                  Actions speak louder than words (lies). Barack HUSSEIN Obama is a Muslim, period. Look at his record:

                  1. Remember his comment: "Islam Has Always Been A Part Of America's Story" (huh?). 2. This year President Obama canceled the 21st annual National Day of Prayer ceremony at the White House under the ruse Of "not wanting to offend anyone" 3. On September 25, 2009 from 4 am until 7 pm, a National Day of Prayer for the Muslim religion was Held on Capitol Hill, Beside the White House. There were over 50,000 Muslims that Day in D.C. 4. Bowed to the King of Saudi Arabia. 5. Circled the globe to publicly apologize for America's world leadership. 6. Sent his National Defense Adviser to Europe to assure them that the US will no longer treat Israel in a special manner and they might be on their own with the Muslims. 7. Praised Jimmy Carter's trip to Gaza where he sided with terrorist Hamas against Israel. 8. European leaders are questioning Barack Hussein Obama's support for Turkish membership in the European Union. 9. By executive order, Barack Obama ordered the expenditure of $20.3 million in migration assistance to the Palestinian refugees and conflict victims in Gaza. In addition, has so far obligate dor requested from Congress a total of 1.3 Billions for Gazan's. 10. Obama's withdrew all charges against the masterminds behind the USS Cole and 9/11. 11. BHO ordered all overseas CIA interrogation centers closed. (Not just Guantanamo). 12. His first call to any head of state as president was to Mahmoud Abbas, leader of Fatah party in the Palestinian territory. 13. BHO's first one on one interview with any news organization was with Al Arabia television. 14. In his own book stating if the politician winds change, he would turn on Israel. 15. Obligated 75 million to Pakistan during its Aug 2010 floods, yet offered no help to the flooding going on in Poland. Or, the earthquake that hit Italy in 2009. 16. In 2010, after dithering for 18 months got the U.N. to pass the weakest sanctions against Iran yet. 17. Said nothing about Iran's corrupt elections until Germany, France, Britain, took the lead and started asking him why he wasn't being a leader.17. Demands concrete concessions from Israel but only asks for "promises" from Palestinians. 18. Opened diplomatic relations with Syria - a nation labelled a rogue state by every president over the last 43 years. 19. Abolishing the word "terrorist. 20. "jihad" was a "legitimate tenet of Islam". I'll stop at 20 examples but I have dozens more if need be.

                  • 4 votes
                  Reply#4 - Thu Aug 19, 2010 2:28 PM EDT

                  Purge, speaking of liars, you are, the President is not. Buy the book and read it. You might learn something. Spewing this kind of stupidity goes well beyond any reasonable expression of opinion. Saint Augustine says that it is not a sin to tell a lie if one actually believes the lie is true, but it is evil nevertheless. It would not be difficult for you to look up some simple direct facts, so your insistence on spreading this nonsense really does not reflect well on you in any way whatsoever. It is bad for the country, it is bad for whoever reads it, it is bad for you, and it shows a distinct lack of character on your part. If that violates the COH, so be it. Sometimes the truth is more important than civility.

                  • 6 votes
                  #4.1 - Thu Aug 19, 2010 3:16 PM EDT

                  You can't be serious.

                  • 4 votes
                  #4.2 - Thu Aug 19, 2010 3:18 PM EDT

                  Oh Brother….Don’t you right wing nitwits EVER get tired of repeating the BS?

                  Please see below:

                  Perhaps you failed to read your Messiah's books...here are a few quotes, straight from the horses mouth....

                  From Dreams of My Father : "I found a solace in nursing a pervasive sense of grievance and animosity against my mother's race."

                  From Dreams of My Father: "It remained necessary to prove which side you were on, to show your loyalty to the black masses, to strike out and name names."

                  From Audacity of Hope: "I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction"
                  _______________________

                  Thanks for confirming that comprehension is not your strong ‘suit’ Purge?

                  You may get away with the blatant BS over on Faux & Freaks however; here at FR we call out the racist LIES!

                  I asked you to post and or PROVE the entire quotes & since you refused... please allow me;

                  http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2008/jun/10/dreams-my-father-quotes-require-context/

                  Now pay extra CLOSE attention to:

                  This quote is a fabrication and does not appear in either of Obama's books. It's actually a rewriting of a sentence from a conservative critique of Obama's book.

                  The link below will PROVE the chain e-mail origin that you're spreading:

                  http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/ownwords.asp

                  And finally my favorite... About standing with Muslims...

                  The statement was REWORDED from a passage on page 261 from the Audacity of Hope in which Barack Obama spoke of the importance of not allowing inflamed public opinion to result in innocent members of immigrant groups being stripped of their rights, denied their due as American citizens or placed in confinement.

                  So FOurge in closing I'll wait for your response to thank me for once against taking out the 'garbage' for you lazy ass right wing nuts!

                  Perhaps Purge... you fail to realize that the year is 2010 and everything is easily verifiable (you do know what verifiable means right Purge)?

                  America? Is this the party you want to associate yourselves with? The GEENOPEE has absolutely NOTHING to offer and can't play fair & square... so might as well LIE - TWIST & DISTORT things for their OWN personal agenda!!!

                  Join the party of THINKING individuals and just say NO to staying stuck on stupid & the decimation of the middle class!

                  • 12 votes
                  #4.3 - Thu Aug 19, 2010 3:20 PM EDT
                    #4.4 - Thu Aug 19, 2010 6:55 PM EDT

                    Commonsense.....

                    If you think the President doesn't lie, you are living in a bubble! All Presidents (all politicians for that matter) lie to us every single day. They call it political spin, but a lie is a lie. I don't care what this arguement is about, but open your eyes and ears and learn something. Didn't anyone ever tell you to believe nothing you hear and only half of what you see.

                    Unbelievable!......The President doesn't lie.....Give me a break!!!!!!

                    • 1 vote
                    #4.5 - Fri Aug 20, 2010 1:37 PM EDT
                    Reply

                    Is Obama a Muslim -at heart, or a secret Muslim masquerading as a Christian- at a time the Muslims have become America's No. 1 enemy? Well, we would probably never know. Even if he is, he would probably not admit it -even after the 2012 presidential election, win or lose. The reason? He would rather make history for himself as the 44th president rather than as a Muslim who evaded detection, and managed to become U.S. president. I am sure he wouldn't like such a controversy to become the beacon of his legacy.

                    Now, playing with the facts: He said at his Cairo speech that "he had Muslim roots." Sure, his father was a Muslim, but did any Muslim roots grow inside him from that ancestry, or was that statement a rhetorical passage in his speech to impress Muslims?, Again, we may never know. I think it was pure rhetoric.

                    Obama's former pastor, the controversial Revered Jeremiah Wright, said that "Obama hasn't spoken to him since he was elected president, and he doesn't expect Obama to call him until after his presidency ends." The Reverend Wright, who described 9/11 as "the chickens had come home to roost," is a liability for Obama now, and Obama would certainly keep his distance from any "political controversy and/or liability." And the Muslim religion is part of that controversy as well - no matter if we try to separate it from our Muslim deadly enemies. They both flow out of the same religious, cultural and ideological fountain, and they are the tightly knit fabric of Islam. We say that they hate and attack us to deprive us our freedom, and they say that they hate and attack us because we imposed on them despotic regimes that deprived them of their freedom. Take your pick. That is not the subject here.

                    Is Obama a Muslim at heart masquerading as a Christian? Is he a Muslim impostor who managed to become president in a Christian superpower brimming with anti- Muslim sentiment? Only he knows. And since he certainly plans to write books and make millions after his presidency is over, he wouldn't certainly spur a controversy to spoil these marketing prospects.

                    What is the answer? It's unknown, and it may not become known until Obama's posthumous era. Now, let's get out of the dark cave of Obama's religious beliefs, and focus our dialectics on Obama's handling of the economy. Nikos Retsos, retired professor

                    • 2 votes
                    Reply#5 - Thu Aug 19, 2010 2:29 PM EDT

                    And you are a christian masquerading as a follower of Jesus Christ.

                    REMEMBER, WHEN YOU SPEW THIS GARBAGE, HE WILL SAY "DEPART FROM ME FOR I KNOW YOU NOT"

                    • 1 vote
                    #5.1 - Thu Aug 19, 2010 7:57 PM EDT
                    Reply

                    If you believe Barrack Hussein Obama or Barry Sorreto or whatever name he goes by is a Christian then you also believe in the tooth fairy and Santa Claus. This Moslem removed the US flags from his press conference room and now stands in front of a yellow curtain with Islamic symbols all over it. One Big Ass Mistake America. How could we have been so stupid?

                    • 3 votes
                    Reply#6 - Thu Aug 19, 2010 2:31 PM EDT

                    Acutally Paul the big mistake was when we let the supreme court appoint a drugged out alcoholic as president in 2000.

                    • 8 votes
                    #6.1 - Thu Aug 19, 2010 2:40 PM EDT

                    The last three posts are some of the stupidest crap I have ever read. No wonder America is where it is now these three dumb asses show how our educational system has failed to teach the larger world view we need in order to compete. Get your collective heads out of your racist, narrow minded, Glen Beck lovin, Rush Limbaugh listening behinds. His white Christian mother and grandparents were his primary parents as he never knew his father and was only with his step father for four years. This notion of him being a secret Muslim is ridiculous. Take off your tin foil hats and get a life!!!! Anyone who thinks that a white parent in the 60's who named their black child Barack Husien Obama would think HMMM I think I better make him an American citizen because I know one day he will be President is the dumbest form of life on this planet.

                    • 10 votes
                    #6.2 - Thu Aug 19, 2010 2:48 PM EDT

                    Paul 7491, you are a complete idiot. Pr!cksAreUsuallyLame

                    • 6 votes
                    #6.3 - Thu Aug 19, 2010 3:09 PM EDT

                    I am shocked. Are these people serious? Do people honestly believe he is a Muslim? I can see how people might question wether he was truly a committed Christian because as he doesn't wear it on his sleeve... but thinking he is a Muslim? That is beyond stupid. These people must have diagnosable mental problems.

                    • 8 votes
                    #6.4 - Thu Aug 19, 2010 3:23 PM EDT

                    Glen,

                    That was HILARIOUS!

                    • 2 votes
                    #6.5 - Thu Aug 19, 2010 3:39 PM EDT

                    I second Ted's motion Glen! lol

                    Charles: It's downright scary when you THINK about it!

                    • 3 votes
                    #6.6 - Thu Aug 19, 2010 3:47 PM EDT

                    Feisty, This is the first time I have actually become upset by first read commenters. I'm really worried that a huge chunk of our population has lost touch with reality. Its hard to maintain hope when this many people are buying into complete nonsense.

                    • 6 votes
                    #6.7 - Thu Aug 19, 2010 3:55 PM EDT

                    I hear you Charles... and have seen how many times you have reached out to our more 'moderate' Republicans to set the record straight!

                    There lack of doing so says quite a bit about who they are and their win at all costs mentality!

                    After reading some of the utter nonsense I've come to two conclusions;

                    This country has gone STARK raving MAD!!! And I need to go home and take a shower to wash off all the raw hate that has bombarded me like 'perfume spritzers' in the cosmetics department!

                    • 4 votes
                    #6.8 - Thu Aug 19, 2010 5:11 PM EDT

                    This country has gone STARK raving MAD!!!

                    You know, Feisty, I've been wondering for a while if we aren't suffering from a form of "cultural PTSD". You can't argue that we haven't been through a rough decade or so of existential shocks, continued anxiety (whether justified or manufactured), quite a bit of stress, and such... and the general populace does seem to exhibit most of the common symptoms (hyper-vigilance, anger, desire to avoid dealing with issues related to the stressors in a concrete manner, &c &c &c...)

                    (Note that I'm not a psychiatric professional-- this is just my uninformed opinion on the matter. Perhaps I'll run it by some of my head-shrinker friends and get their take...)

                    • 3 votes
                    #6.9 - Thu Aug 19, 2010 6:12 PM EDT

                    (Note that I'm not a psychiatric professional-- this is just my uninformed opinion on the matter. Perhaps I'll run it by some of my head-shrinker friends and get their take...)

                    Please get back to us with what their take on it is... will ya?

                    The portion of the 'sane' population always like to be informed...

                    Have a great evening!

                    • 2 votes
                    #6.10 - Thu Aug 19, 2010 6:45 PM EDT
                    Reply

                    Time4aPurge - and what is your religion? Come on, play fair now, do you even have one? If you are a Christian and a patriot, you know this disussion is absurd, you know you are a sinner, and I hope you know Christ is your savior. If you do, you also know you are not to judge others, and you have no right to question their relationship with Christ - that is between Christ and the individual.

                    I have not had time to check your listings, but I'm guessing you are getting most of your talking points from faux news. Hold on there fella, I'll tell you the same thing we tell one of our relatives right winger boyfriends - we can take up a collection the end of the week and buy you a TV that has all the channels, perhaps you will understand the lies you are being spoonfed daily and change direction.

                    Come on, now - fess up, you really are Glenn Beck, now aren't ya? wink, wink!

                    • 7 votes
                    Reply#7 - Thu Aug 19, 2010 2:34 PM EDT

                    MSNBC KEEPS ASKING WHERE THIS COMES FROM..DUH. Haven't they heard of Fix news and the riechwing blogs from the dopes of nope..see this example from MMFA. The sad part is the so called real media won't call a liar a liar, however CNN did call out Dr. Laura when she started lieing

                    Media provide platform for Geller's falsehoods and outrageous claims

                    On Fox, Geller falsely claimed Obama gave "seminars in Sharia finance" a week "after he nationalized some banks." Geller claimed on the July 28 edition of Fox News' Fox & Friends that Obama "was giving seminars in Sharia finance" a week "after he nationalized some banks." While Geller did not specify when this action supposedly occurred, she's presumably referring to a claim she made in a July 5 blog post, when Geller referred to "the Treasury's Islamic Finance 101 Seminar in Nov 08 right after the AIG takeover," which numerous right-wing media outlets also objected to at the time. Obama took office in January 2009. As Media Matters has noted, the Bush administration hosted a similar seminar in 2002.

                    On MSNBC, Geller falsely claimed NYC mosque is scheduled to open on 9-11-11. On the August 10 edition of MSNBC Live, Thomas Roberts hosted Geller, who falsely claimed that "it's September 11, 2011, when the mega-mosque is scheduled to open." In fact, the executive director of one of the groups spearheading the project as well as the imam involved have flatly denied that the center is slated to open on September 11. During the segment, Roberts did not correct her claim.

                    Geller absurdly compares NYC mosque to building a KKK "shrine" near black Alabama church. On the August 11 edition of Fox & Friends, Geller absurdly compared building an Islamic cultural center two blocks away from Ground Zero in New York to building a Ku Klux Klan "shrine" near a black church in Alabama.

                    On CNN and The O'Reilly Factor, Geller falsely claimed the NYC mosque would be "looking down on the sacred ground of Ground Zero."On the August 4 edition of Fox News' The O'Reilly Factor(accessed via Nexis), Geller falsely claimed that the Islamic center would be "looking down on the sacred ground of Ground Zero, where they're still finding human remains." Geller repeated this falsehood on the August 17 edition of CNN's Anderson Cooper 360 Degrees. But as an Associated Press "fact check" article has noted:

                    No mosque is going up at ground zero. The center would be established at 45-51 Park Place, just over two blocks from the northern edge of the sprawling, 16-acre World Trade Center site. Its location is roughly half a dozen normal Lower Manhattan blocks from the site of the North Tower, the nearest of the two destroyed in the attacks.

                    On FBN, Geller pushed the "ugly narrative" that Obama is "taking ... cues from Hamas," instructing British PM to "blame Israel" for the "jihad flotilla" incident. On the July 30 edition of Fox Business' America's Nightly Scoreboard, David Asman hosted and encouraged Geller's baseless claim that the Obama administration is "taking their cues from Hamas and passing it on to the British government" by instructing British Prime Minister David Cameron to "blame Israel" for the flotilla incident in the Gaza Strip. She has it on the good authority of a "highly placed confidential source ... in the U.K."

                    Geller routinely uses outrageous, hateful rhetoric

                    Geller: Obama "is a third worlder and a coward" who's "appeas[ing] his Islamic overlords." In an April 13 blog post, Geller wrote: "Obama is a third worlder and a coward. He will do nothing but beat up on our friends to appease his Islamic overlords. All this is going down while Obama plays footsie at his nuclear nonsense campfire -- sucking up to Iran's enablers while beating up our allies."

                    Geller: Liberal Jews are "lost souls," "self-hating wretches." In her January 25 Newsmax column, Geller wrote that Abraham Foxman, director of the Anti-Defamation League, "has come out against a great and wonderful friend of the Jews, Rush Limbaugh." Geller added that this "is symptomatic of a deeper problem: I have for years derided Jews in America and the Jewish lay leadership for tolerating and supporting clear and present enemies of the Jewish people among our senior ranks. It is a sickness of the soul." She further wrote, "The liberal Jew worships at the church of human secularism. These lost souls are married to their liberal dogma," and asked, "Which Jews support deleterious characters like Foxman? Which Jews give blood money to these self-hating wretches?"

                    Geller on Obama's Israel policy: "Jews Refuse to Get on Obama's Trains."In a post apparently responding to Obama's opposition to settlement growth, Geller wrote, "Jews Refuse to Get on Obama's Trains." She added: "Obama is pressuring Jews to 'evacuate' from parts of Israel? And what Warsaw ghetto does the muhammadan [sic] president have in mind? I think I am gonna hurl. The Jews will not go. The Jews will not submit to this century's nazis [sic] and Mansourian poser. No way, bloodsuckers. Not again. Never again."

                    Geller on transgender Obama appointee: "What a freak show this presidency is."In a January 4 blog post, Geller responded to a report that Obama named a transgender appointee to a Commerce Department position by stating, "Does Obama know anyone who isn't wacky, radical, militant, judeophobic, socialist, marxist, pedophilic? ...... Does he chill with anyone who is normal? Isn't there one Marilyn Munster in the family? What a freak show this presidency is."

                    Geller: Obama "wants jihad to win. That's what he is doing." In an April 1 blog post titled, "President Jihad: Obama Encouraged Violent Palestinian Muslim protests against Israel," Geller claimed Obama "is agitating Muslims against Jews" and stated, "The President of the United States is advancing jihad against the oath of office that he took." Geller also stated in an April 11 post, "President Sarkozy called [Obama] 'a madman,' 'a lunatic.' Perhaps, I don't know -- but one thing is for sure: Hussein is a muhammadan. He's not insane ...........he wants jihad to win. That's what he is doing. Of course, to the western mind, the rational mind, the logical mind, the American mind, that is insane."

                    Geller called Democrats "National Socialists." In a March 13 blog post, Geller wrote, "National Socialists [Democrats] Obamacare: Sheeps to 'Slaughter Solution.' " She added, "The buzz on Capitol Hill is that the Democrats are now considering what is being called the 'Slaughter Solution' that will allow ObamaCare to be signed into law WITHOUT HOUSE MEMBERS EVEN HAVING TO VOTE."

                    Geller: Senate Democrats supporting health care reform voted "to rape the American people." In a December 21, 2009, blog post, Geller wrote of the cloture vote for health care reform: "The moochers and the looters, the crooks and degenerates voted at 1 am this morning to rip the constitution to shreds, to rape the American people and to nationalize medicine." She added that passing the bill on Christmas Eve would be "an act of treason and blasphemy."

                    Geller declared "VICTORY!" after Swiss established ban on minaret construction. In a November 29, 2009, post -- headlined "VICTORY! SWISS BAN MOSQUE MINARETS IN A LANDSLIDE VOTE" -- Geller commented: "The Swiss have hand [sic] enough. They actually had the spine to take back their country. I wonder how the religion of peaceniks will react...in their usual tolerant and pacifist manner?"

                    Geller: "Obama Goes Full On Nazi."Geller headlined a November 9, 2009, post, "Obama Goes Full On Nazi: Subject: 'Democratic consultant says he got a warning from White House after appearing on Fox News.' "

                    Geller: " 'Kick a Jew' days ... are part of this growing evil Evil unleashed with an anti-semite in the White House." In a December 14, 2009, post, Geller wrote:

                    It's as if the floodgates of hell have been thrown open. The moratorium on the holocaust is officially over and all the savages are free to incite, hate and destroy. Clearly those "Kick a Jew" days discussed here and here in schools are part of this growing evil Evil [sic] unleashed with an anti-semite in the White House.

                    Geller: "Obama is bringing his jihad to Illinois."In a December 15, 2009, post, Geller responded to reports that Guantanamo Bay detainees may be housed at the Thomson Correctional Center in Illinois by stating: "Obama is bringing his jihad to Illinois. Has anyone asked the people of Chicago if they want KSM's soul mates in their state? Obama's treachery is breathtaking. A killer's paradise."

                    Geller: "It is well known that Obama allegedly was involved with a crack whore in his youth," and he only visited Pakistan while in college because of "jihad or drugs." In an August 1, 2009, post, Geller discussed rumors of a Palin divorce being spread by bloggers, including one supposedly tied to CNN, and stated:

                    Let's understand this. CNN won't touch the birth certificate issue, the Rezko/Auchi corruption, Obama's anti-semitism, his ACORN/SEIU ties and corruption, and other legitimate stories that need investigation. But they write fiction about Palin. Daily. So why not tell the truth about Obama and his reported strange sexual predilections? My question is, it is well known that Obama allegedly was involved with a crack whore in his youth. Very seedy stuff. Why aren't they pursuing that story? Find the ho, give her a show! Obama allegedly trafficked in some very deviant practices. Where's the investigation?

                    Geller further stated of Obama's trip to Pakistan during college: "Back in the early 80's, there were only two reasons to travel to Pakistan. Jihad or drugs. I think he went for the drugs and came back with jihad."

                    Geller on Dome of the Rock: "The dome has got to go." On September 27, 2009, Geller posted an image of Muslims praying at the Dome of the Rock, one of Islam's holy sites, and stated, "On Erev Yom Kippur, Muslims attack Jews in Jerusalem. The dome has got to go. It is sitting atop the great Jewish temple. The dome has got to go. It's time to push back and stop indulging evil. Evil is made possible by the sanction you give it. Withdraw your sanction (paraphrasing Rand)."

                    Conspiracy theorist Geller has repeatedly demonstrated her lack of credibility

                    Geller claimed Obama's birth certificate is a "forgery."In an August 4, 2009, column, Geller claimed that according to a "digital forensic examination specialist" called "Techdude," the birth certificate Obama posted on his fightthesmears.com website was a "forgery." She further stated that there is "something on Obama's birth certificate" that "he does not want us to see" and that "there is know way of knowing" whether "all the documentation on Obama's birth certificate and citizenship is in order." Geller also speculated about Obama's birth certificate at length on her blog, dating back to July 2008. In August 2008, FactCheck.org reported that they had "seen, touched, examined and photographed the original birth certificate. We conclude that it meets all of the requirements from the State Department for proving U.S. citizenship." FactCheck also noted that "a birth announcement that had been published in the Honolulu Advertiser on Sunday, Aug. 13, 1961."

                    Geller runs with fake Obama quote from fabricated Columbia thesis.After an August 25 post on the blog Jumping in Pools claimed that Obama attacked the Constitution and founders in his Columbia thesis, right-wing media ran with the "report," despite the fact that it was tagged as "satire." In an October 23 post, Geller wrote, "EXCERPTS FROM OBAMA'S COLUMBIA THESIS REVEALS AMERICA'S WORST NIGHTMARE IS IN THE OVAL OFFICE." She added that the writings revealed "an America hater." She also posted the claim on her Twitter feed. Geller later posted an update to her blog that stated: "I am looking for the link for the ten pages .........and I can't find it. But he did say this very thing." Her blog post has since been taken down.

                    Geller mistakes AP paraphrase for an Obama quote to accuse him of "a slip of the foreign tongue."In a May 31 post, Geller quoted an Associated Press article that stated: "More than just barbecues and family time, Memorial Day is the chance to honor members of the military who made the ultimate sacrifice on behalf of their country, President Barack Obama says." Geller responded: "Uh, whose country? Brother Obama's latest slip of the foreign tongue." However, the words "their country" can only be attributed to AP's paraphrase of Obama's remarks; they do not appear anywhere in his actual address. In fact, in the second paragraph of the address, Obama referred to "our country's flag."

                    In her post, Geller also called Obama "our Nancy boy" because he moved his Memorial Day speech due to rain.

                    Geller falsely claimed Kagan is "an admirer of an architect of German national socialism, Nazism." In a July 2 post, Geller wrote, "How broken are we that we would consider an admirer of an architect of German national socialism, Nazism, to sit in one of the most powerful judicial chairs in the world? The Obama freak show continues and we are his victims. Kagan cannot, must not, will not be confirmed." Geller's claim was based on a Human Events article that said Kagan's undergraduate thesis "cited the theories of an influential German Marxist [Werner Sombart] who notoriously switched allegiances to Nazism after Adolf Hitler attained power." However, at no point did Kagan indicate that she shared or sympathized with Sombart's ideology. As Media Mattershas noted, Kagan's thesis explored historical questions about socialism and did not express personal support for socialism or Nazism.

                    Geller also posted a photo of Kagan -- who is Jewish -- Photoshopped to look like she is wearing Nazi uniform:

                    Geller claimed Qatari diplomat incident was an "act of Islamic terror" and rushed to attack Obama. In an April 7 post entitled, "Muslim Tries to Light a Bomb on DC to Denver Aircraft," Geller wrote, "NBC is reporting that a muslim [sic] passenger attempted to light an explosive device on board an aircraft from Washington to Denver, sources tell NBC News -- this on the day that Obama said jihad and Islamic terrorism does not exist (neither does his birth certificate)." The NBC report to which she linked -- a "breaking news" Twitter feed -- said only that "a passenger attempted to light an explosive device on board an aircraft from Washington to Denver, sources tell NBC News." The post made no mention of the passenger's religion. Geller called the passenger "[t]he jihadi committing this act of Islamic terror." Before Geller updated her post to reflect new information, she wrote: "Fighter jets were scrambled to bring the plane down. G-d only knows what would have happened if the the [sic] air marshals on board hadn't tackled him..."

                    Geller falsely claimed Farrakhan, Ayers, and Wright visited White House. In a March 26 post, Geller wrote:

                    There are consequential, disturbing revelations to be found when flipping through the visitors list at the White House. Bill Ayers is there no less than three times, Louis Farrakhan at least once, but there is also a separate visit for his family, and the infamous hater Jeremiah Wright is there at least five times (four times under Jeremy, one under Jeremiah)

                    She added, "These are terrorists, inciters to genocide, America haters, the underbelly of an ugly America -- and they are in the House." In fact, The New York Times reported back in October 2009 that the White House said"visitors by the names of William Ayers and Jeremiah Wright were not the same two men who stirred controversy for Mr. Obama in his campaign." In January, White House ethics lawyer Norm Eisen stated that the "Louis Farrakhan" in the list is not the well-known individual with that name.

                    Geller absurdly claimed Obama administration wearing purple as sign of solidarity with SEIU. In a March 26 post titled, "Flying the gangsta colors at the White House: SEIU, The color purple," Geller wrote (emphasis in the original), "Yes, it seems this can no longer be written off as pure coincidence. The color purple is the fighting color of this administration. It is painfully clear who and what is running the show. Historically the color purple has signified royalty which, ironically, is exactly how the power mad pres thinks of himself. But this is SEIU, all the way. The Chicago way." As evidence, Geller claimed Obama wore a purple tie when he signed the health care law. But in other photos and videos, the tie appears to be a grey-ish blue. Geller also posted a photo of Democratic lawmakers who she said were wearing "purple ties," but they are clearly blue. And she claimed that Robert Gibbs and Andy Stern wore "matching purple bracelets." However Gibbs had explained in a March 15 tweet that he was wearing the bracelet in support of a family friend who "is bravely fighting cancer."

                    Geller baselessly claimed Obama may have visited Louis Farrakhan when he went to Chicago for Memorial Day. In a May 30 post, Geller wrote: "How did the President of the United States spend his Memorial day weekend? Honoring the glorious dead by laying a wreath at Arlington cemetery?? Not a chance. It is unclear, but he may have pow-wowed with race baiter, Jew-hater Louis Farrakhan, a frequent visitor to the White House." However, Geller provides no information that suggests Obama met with Farrakhan. She noted that Obama attended a dinner at the home of Marty Nesbitt, which is near the home of Farrakhan, and that the press pool reportedly clashed with some of Farrakhan's men, concluding, "The whole story stinks. Did Obama see Farrakhan or not?"

                    Geller calls Obama "the Muslim president." Geller's blog contains 267 posts tagged, "Muslim in the White House?" In a June 2, 2009, post, Geller called Obama "The Muslim president." Calling it a "critical issue," Geller wrote in January 2008 that "Obama went to a madrassa in Jakarta," that "he practiced Islam," and that "if Obama makes it to the big house, Israel is screwed. Finished." On May 30, 2009, Geller wrote that with his Cairo speech, Obama "proved everything I said to be true." In fact, CNN debunked the "madrassa" falsehood back in January 2007, and as Newsweek stated, "Barack Obama has never been Muslim and never practiced Islam."

                    • 13 votes
                    Reply#8 - Thu Aug 19, 2010 2:38 PM EDT

                    Geller and people like her is what is wrong with America today. These idiots wrap themselves in the flag and claim they are patriots when really what they are is racist haters who are only out for their own wealth and power. They have such low self esteem that the only way they feel better about themselves is by attacking others. Shame on the MSM for giving these low lifes a platform in the name of ratings!

                    • 7 votes
                    #8.1 - Thu Aug 19, 2010 2:58 PM EDT

                    Geller is not a Conspiracy Theorist, she is a Conspiracy Pusher, Enabler and Handler, Plain and Simple!

                    • 1 vote
                    #8.2 - Thu Aug 19, 2010 9:55 PM EDT
                    Reply

                    Bullcrap.

                    Q: When was the last video / news release you saw that showed B-O or his family and illegal alien mother attend mass at a Christen church ?

                    A: Never

                    IMPEACH OBAMA AND PELOSI NOW !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

                    • 1 vote
                    Reply#9 - Thu Aug 19, 2010 2:44 PM EDT

                    "And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward." - Matthew 6:5

                    So, what, the President has to make some grand display to appease you? Please!

                    "Illegal Alien Mother"? I'll be polite and just give you the facts...Stanley Anne Dunham, President Obama's mother, was born and raised in this country and was a citizen...and she died in 1995 so maybe you need to think before you type!

                    Impeach Obama? On what grounds?

                    • 11 votes
                    #9.1 - Thu Aug 19, 2010 3:03 PM EDT

                    Da Noid, you were much kinder to Sheeple Herder than I would have been. Kudos.

                    • 3 votes
                    #9.2 - Thu Aug 19, 2010 6:16 PM EDT

                    Impeach Obama for his fraudulent social security number. He is using the number of a person born in 1890, from Connecticut.

                      #9.3 - Thu Aug 19, 2010 6:56 PM EDT

                      WmRAllen
                      Da Noid, you were much kinder to Sheeple Herder than I would have been. Kudos.

                      It was the answer he needed...not the answer he deserved.

                      • 2 votes
                      #9.4 - Thu Aug 19, 2010 7:28 PM EDT

                      Sheeple

                      I've never attended a mass, does that make me non-christian.

                        #9.5 - Fri Aug 20, 2010 9:47 AM EDT

                        Steven-- nope, but if you go to the garage, that will make you a car, right?

                        • 1 vote
                        #9.6 - Fri Aug 20, 2010 4:28 PM EDT
                        Reply

                        Some of these posts are some of the stupidest crap I have ever read. No wonder America is where it is now, some of these dumb asses show how our educational system has failed to teach the larger world view we need in order to compete. Get your collective heads out of your racist, narrow minded, Glen Beck lovin, Rush Limbaugh listening behinds. His white Christian mother and grandparents were his primary parents as he never knew his father and was only with his step father for four years. This notion of him being a secret Muslim is ridiculous. Take off your tin foil hats and get a life!!!! Anyone who thinks that a white parent in the 60's who named their black child Barack Husien Obama would think HMMM I think I better make him an American citizen because I know one day he will be President is the dumbest form of life on this planet.

                        • 5 votes
                        Reply#10 - Thu Aug 19, 2010 2:47 PM EDT

                        Greg

                        This is from www.colony14. The Time line of Obama's life. Obama was mentored by Frank Marshall Davis. A known pedophile and communist.

                        Obama joins Davis at his home on most evenings, shares alcohol and drugs, is tutored in socialism, and taught not to trust the white establishment. “They’ll train you so good,” Davis warns, “you’ll start believing what they tell you about equal opportunity and the American way and all that @!$%#.” Davis teaches Obama, “Black people have a reason to hate” and “You may be a well-trained, well-paid @!$%#, but you’re a @!$%# just the same.” [22, 33, 261]

                          #10.1 - Thu Aug 19, 2010 7:02 PM EDT
                          Reply

                          That whistle you hear is the train to Beckistan, hurry you riechwing droolers you don't want to miss it, your FAUX history lesson starts in 2 hrs...lol. You gotta love the dopes of nope.

                          • 7 votes
                          Reply#11 - Thu Aug 19, 2010 2:49 PM EDT

                          Why does anybody care whether BHO is Muslim, Christian, or Scientologist for that matter???

                          • 4 votes
                          Reply#12 - Thu Aug 19, 2010 2:49 PM EDT

                          Exactly Madman...I could give a rats @$$ what religion he is as long as he would quit running this country into the ground.

                          • 2 votes
                          #12.1 - Thu Aug 19, 2010 2:54 PM EDT

                          Mand man and JFK2112, Thank you for some level of sanity. Would you please go a step further and call out these people that are calling him a Muslim? Someone from your side of the political spectrum really needs to step in here and keep this craziness in check.

                          • 3 votes
                          #12.2 - Thu Aug 19, 2010 3:33 PM EDT

                          JFK

                          That's the whole point. He wants to run this country into the ground.

                            #12.3 - Thu Aug 19, 2010 7:06 PM EDT
                            Reply

                            Just goes to show that alot of people in this country are stupid. Your places of worship dosen't seem to teach you anything about humility and respect for others. We should BAN religion. It teaches you nothing but hatred and destruction. RELIGION will be the death of us all.

                            • 4 votes
                            Reply#13 - Thu Aug 19, 2010 2:55 PM EDT

                            You may have him mixed up with a little dude from Texas that was an under achiever in school, in his guard unit, and in the Texas oil business. Oh, and the presidency of the United States. I know all that makes you uncomfortable, but hating Obama won't erase the failures of his predecessor.

                            • 9 votes
                            #13.1 - Thu Aug 19, 2010 3:15 PM EDT

                            Above was to attacht to JFK2112, sorry....

                            • 4 votes
                            #13.2 - Thu Aug 19, 2010 3:16 PM EDT

                            Tiki

                            John Hancock "The very existence of the Republic..depends much upon the public institutions of religion."

                            John Witherspoon, signer, member of the Continental Congress, President of Princeton University "Whoever is an avowed enemy of God; I scruple not to call him an enemy of his country."

                            Noah Webster "Our citizens should early understand that the genuine source of correct republican principles is the Bible, particularly the New Testament or the Christian religion."

                            Our laws and our institutions must necessarily be based upon and embody the teachings of the Redeemer of mankind. It is impossible that it should be otherwise. In this sense and to this extent, our civilizations and our institutions are emphatically Christian. -- Richmond v. Moore, Illinois Supreme Court, 1883)

                              #13.3 - Thu Aug 19, 2010 7:12 PM EDT

                              Koobee:

                              Where the preamble declares, that coercion is a departure from the plan of the holy author of our religion, an amendment was proposed by inserting "Jesus Christ," so that it would read "A departure from the plan of Jesus Christ, the holy author of our religion;" the insertion was rejected by the great majority, in proof that they meant to comprehend, within the mantle of its protection, the Jew and the Gentile, the Christian and Mohammedan, the Hindoo and Infidel of every denomination. --Thomas Jefferson, Autobiography, in reference to the Virginia Act for Religious Freedom

                              and

                              History, I believe, furnishes no example of a priest-ridden people maintaining a free civil government. This marks the lowest grade of ignorance of which their civil as well as religious leaders will always avail themselves for their own purposes. --Thomas Jefferson to Alexander von Humboldt, Dec. 6, 1813.

                              as well as

                              Nothwithstanding the general progress made within the two last centuries in favour of this branch of liberty, & the full establishment of it, in some parts of our Country, there remains in others a strong bias towards the old error, that without some sort of alliance or coalition between Gov' & Religion neither can be duly supported: Such indeed is the tendency to such a coalition, and such its corrupting influence on both the parties, that the danger cannot be too carefully guarded agst.. And in a Gov' of opinion, like ours, the only effectual guard must be found in the soundness and stability of the general opinion on the subject. Every new & successful example therefore of a perfect separation between ecclesiastical and civil matters, is of importance. And I have no doubt that every new example, will succeed, as every past one has done, in shewing that religion & Gov will both exist in greater purity, the less they are mixed together; -- James Madison, Letter to Edward Livingston, July 10, 1822, The Writings of James Madison, Gaillard Hunt

                              • 1 vote
                              #13.4 - Thu Aug 19, 2010 7:26 PM EDT
                              Reply

                              Most, if not all that were polled know damn well he's not a muslim. There just hoping if they can stir up enough contraversy, that it might sway opinions only, certainly not facts. Thats why the polls show more believe he is a muslim than before. You just can't fix stupid and believe me, this poll shows just how stupid or hateful some Americans can be. Did I call these idiots Americans? Excuse me.

                              • 6 votes
                              Reply#14 - Thu Aug 19, 2010 3:05 PM EDT

                              Palin is a gypsy. Gingrich is German. Boner is Martian. Cantor is Weird. Bachhman is Crazy. Angle is a Rhet Tard. Paul is a Racist Bigot. Hmmmm, think these will stick after speaking them so much… no, simply because, we as liberals, aren’t narrow minded to spew this garbage.

                              But hey, the NEWSVINE segment of every MSNBC article runs rampant with Republithugs collapsing comments just to show the negative comments from the hundreds of Right Wingers that are practicing suppressing anyone that disagrees with them along with the trolls.

                              This site (MSNBC) along with the bogus spin the pundits and writers get away with spewing this nonsense all in the name of producers lining their pockets, has a knack for making the Right Wingers dumbArse fabrications as a real story, and the real story of passing legislation to help people as stories of being negative. These days I watch very little news as it is no longer truth.

                              Morning Joe and his whole horde of yes men and Arse kissers is truly a punch in the face of Truth.

                              • 4 votes
                              Reply#15 - Thu Aug 19, 2010 3:12 PM EDT

                              Oh Brother….Don’t you right wing nitwits EVER get tired of repeating the BS?

                              Please see below:

                              Perhaps you failed to read your Messiah's books...here are a few quotes, straight from the horses mouth....

                              From Dreams of My Father : "I found a solace in nursing a pervasive sense of grievance and animosity against my mother's race."

                              From Dreams of My Father: "It remained necessary to prove which side you were on, to show your loyalty to the black masses, to strike out and name names."

                              From Audacity of Hope: "I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction"
                              _______________________

                              Thanks for confirming that comprehension is not your strong ‘suit’ Purge?

                              You may get away with the blatant BS over on Faux & Freaks however; here at FR we call out the racist LIES!

                              I asked you to post and or PROVE the entire quotes & since you refused... please allow me;

                              http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2008/jun/10/dreams-my-father-quotes-require-context/

                              Now pay extra CLOSE attention to:

                              This quote is a fabrication and does not appear in either of Obama's books. It's actually a rewriting of a sentence from a conservative critique of Obama's book.

                              The link below will PROVE the chain e-mail origin that you're spreading:

                              http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/ownwords.asp

                              And finally my favorite... About standing with Muslims...

                              The statement was REWORDED from a passage on page 261 from the Audacity of Hope in which Barack Obama spoke of the importance of not allowing inflamed public opinion to result in innocent members of immigrant groups being stripped of their rights, denied their due as American citizens or placed in confinement.

                              So FOurge in closing I'll wait for your response to thank me for once against taking out the 'garbage' for you lazy ass right wing nuts!

                              Perhaps Purge... you fail to realize that the year is 2010 and everything is easily verifiable (you do know what verifiable means right Purge)?

                              America? Is this the party you want to associate yourselves with? The GEENOPEE has absolutely NOTHING to offer and can't play fair & square... so might as well LIE - TWIST & DISTORT things for their OWN personal agenda!!!

                              Join the party of THINKING individuals and just say NO to staying stuck on stupid & the decimation of the middle class!

                              • 6 votes
                              Reply#16 - Thu Aug 19, 2010 3:18 PM EDT

                              Thanks Feisty! I mistakenly thought this whole argument was finally over. You just can't fix the stupid in this country.

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                              #16.1 - Thu Aug 19, 2010 3:26 PM EDT

                              You just can't fix the stupid in this country.

                              Which is another reason Republicans HATE education as much as they do...

                              I can't wrap my head around some of the CRAAAZEEE sh!t that's being spewed around here today!

                              And trust me... I had thought I had pretty much seen it all!

                              • 3 votes
                              #16.2 - Thu Aug 19, 2010 3:57 PM EDT

                              Well, we are into it nearly 2 years, and what do we have? "teleprompter", birth certificate, and Muslim. Anyone want to drag "Bill Clinton got some" back out, while we're waiting for some real meat and potato(e)s to hit the table?

                              • 4 votes
                              #16.3 - Thu Aug 19, 2010 4:46 PM EDT

                              Um, Buzz, I got hit with that one over on First Thoughts this afternoon,...so yeah they are going to 'wheel' the race.

                                #16.4 - Fri Aug 20, 2010 12:00 AM EDT
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                                Yeah, we can really believe anything that comes out of NBC when it comes to this radical liberal.

                                Rev. Wright is closer to Louis Farrakhan than any Christian.

                                Obama is a radical Muslim

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                                Reply#17 - Thu Aug 19, 2010 3:20 PM EDT

                                It should be obvious to the legitimate media, as a consequence of this survey, that it is time for you to start clearly stating when someone is LYING about this president or any of the Democratic policy initiatives!!! It is time for the legitimate media to start clearly stating Fox is all opinion - all the time; that Matt Drudge and Andrew Breitbart are 21st century Goebbels-style propagandists for the Reichwing Republicans; that Rush Limbaugh is the Joe McCarthy of the 21st century; that Sarah Palin REALLY is stupid; and, that the Fairness Doctrine MUST be reinstated immediately.

                                • 6 votes
                                Reply#18 - Thu Aug 19, 2010 3:29 PM EDT

                                MS Reeves:

                                The Liberal media in this country already do that. That is why their credibility and ratings are at record lows and they are losing ground every day.

                                • 1 vote
                                #18.1 - Thu Aug 19, 2010 3:44 PM EDT

                                Diane,

                                If the media had done their due diligence before the election, Obama would have never been elected and we wouldn't be dealing with 10% unemployment. You seem to have a problem with anyone that does not think like you do, which is typical of the left. The Mystery Man in the White House has no one to blame but himself and the tinkle up the leg media. The Emperor has no clothes and is too stupid to pick out an outfit. History has proved that most of his policies will fail as we are living through those failures right now. But those on the left ignore history as it contradicts all their fairy tale ideas. The mid-terms can't come soon enough. We'll actually see some change and our economy will improve because of it.

                                In God We Trust

                                  #18.2 - Thu Aug 19, 2010 4:07 PM EDT

                                  enoughalready,

                                  I agree with your last line, "In God We Trust". It is the only sensible thing you had to say.

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                                  #18.3 - Thu Aug 19, 2010 6:15 PM EDT
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                                  Can some of the regular conservative commenters PLEASE speak up against this insanity? I understand if you question if he is very religious or not but PLEASE speak up against people calling him a Muslim. This is crazy. I speak up against lefties that start talking crazy and I would really appreciate it if a righty would speak up now.

                                  • 3 votes
                                  Reply#19 - Thu Aug 19, 2010 3:29 PM EDT

                                  SO -- I wonder why it is no one in the mainstream media has ever asked: "When and where was Obama baptized?" -- or bothered to point out that according to Muslim law and traditions, since his father was a Muslim -- so is Obama. If Obama truly is a Christian, now, than this would make Obama subject to the death penality in certain countries like Saudi Arabia, Iran, and elsewhere where strict Sharia law is observed...why is ot no one has ever asked these questions? Also - why is it most of th big networks ignored the fact that when his family was living in Indonesia, the Obama's had Barrack registered at a local Catholic school -- as a Muslim.

                                  Baptism is the only formal rite universally recognized by all Christian sects as an indication of belonging to a Christian Church. If we are to believe Obama's story that the infamous Rev. Wright (Goddam America) converted him, then when was Obamama baptized? Merely stating that one prays, talks to ministers and reads devotionals does not make one a Christian....Muslims do that sort of thing to.

                                    Reply#20 - Thu Aug 19, 2010 3:37 PM EDT

                                    dude really? c'mom. Has everyone lost their minds today?

                                    • 4 votes
                                    #20.1 - Thu Aug 19, 2010 3:47 PM EDT

                                    Mike, why is That your some of your Family member's have'nt cashed in on having You Committed ?

                                    You'd think, they'res at least someone close to you who needs the $$.

                                    • 2 votes
                                    #20.2 - Thu Aug 19, 2010 3:51 PM EDT

                                    SO -- I wonder why it is no one in the mainstream media has ever asked: "When and where was Obama baptized?"

                                    Maybe because it's ultimately none of our business?

                                    • 4 votes
                                    #20.3 - Thu Aug 19, 2010 3:53 PM EDT

                                    Oh brother....so now we need to see his baptismal certificate?

                                    Really???

                                    • 3 votes
                                    #20.4 - Thu Aug 19, 2010 6:11 PM EDT

                                    You disgust me. Can't form an argument on policy? Have to wage a smear/slander/personal attack against the decent man who is trying to lead this country? no wonder today's Republicans are the most reviled political party in our history. You are not my father's political party, or, for that matter, my Father's.

                                    • 1 vote
                                    #20.5 - Thu Aug 19, 2010 7:59 PM EDT
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                                    THIS is the most ignorant post of the day! congrats, olde boy, congrats.

                                    • 3 votes
                                    Reply#21 - Thu Aug 19, 2010 3:56 PM EDT

                                    I'm not so sure Ted - there is some pretty STIFF competition out there today! ;0)

                                    • 2 votes
                                    #21.1 - Thu Aug 19, 2010 3:59 PM EDT
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                                    Who gives a sh!t what religion he has or lack there of? What we want him to do is keep his mouth shut, go play golf, don't do a thing and let the economy rebound.

                                      Reply#22 - Thu Aug 19, 2010 3:58 PM EDT

                                      Road Warrior, will you please give me some hope that all conservatives are not insane by calling out the commenters on this post that are calling Obama a Muslim?

                                      • 1 vote
                                      #22.1 - Thu Aug 19, 2010 4:16 PM EDT
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                                      I tell you all, the Bama needs a psychiatrist, believe me. Which President in our History will go on vacation and the country is in a meltdown. Is this the head of the Free World? Please do voters , we had enough of the Bama. Let's give him the boot.

                                        Reply#23 - Thu Aug 19, 2010 4:03 PM EDT

                                        Juven, I know you really dislike Obama and I respect that... but would you please be the first conservative on this post to call out those saying Obama is a Muslim?

                                        • 3 votes
                                        #23.1 - Thu Aug 19, 2010 4:11 PM EDT

                                        OK JB....let me explain this.

                                        First, IT"S 2010!!!!!!! The office moves with the President, no matter where he is. He NEVER stops working for us - ALL OF US.

                                        Second, get out a map, do you see where Martha's Vineyard is? It's not the moon!

                                        On second thought...forget it....you're stuck in 1960.

                                        • 1 vote
                                        #23.2 - Thu Aug 19, 2010 6:15 PM EDT

                                        Road Warrior

                                        Who cares what religion he is???

                                        Iran is producing nukes. And Obama is protecting his Muslim brothers.

                                        Dangerous repercussions for America.

                                        But, unfortunately you will find out yourself. And your children and grandchildren will pay.

                                          #23.3 - Thu Aug 19, 2010 7:16 PM EDT

                                          koobee. Can you send me a postcard from your alternative reality?

                                          • 1 vote
                                          #23.4 - Fri Aug 20, 2010 4:00 PM EDT
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                                          As the Republican God, Ronald Reagan, would say: There you go again!

                                          As Da Noid quoted Matthew 6:5 "And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward." Jesus would have us pray in private, rather than making a show of our faith.

                                          Faith is a private matter; yet, I truly believe, you do not have to advertise the fact you are a Christian. People will know you are a Christian by how you treat others.

                                          As far as President Obama being a Muslim, I thought that this was settled long ago. I guess when you're grasping for straws, you'll throw anything at someone in hopes that you can get it to stick! Lord knows the likes of Matt Drudge, Andrew Breitbart et al have become experts at it. Matter of fact, they have managed to make a living at delivering their garbage. As a Christian, I know that I will have to answer for my sins, and all others will have to answer for their sins as well!

                                          To be President of this country is a thankless job to say the least. I would imagine that having a strong faith would be a prerequisite to be able to handle the various difficult duties, and having spiritual advisors to lift you up in prayer and advise you would be imperative.

                                          May God bless this country and the President to do what is right for this country.

                                          • 8 votes
                                          Reply#24 - Thu Aug 19, 2010 4:05 PM EDT

                                          "Where ignorance is bliss it is folly to be wise."

                                          I am sure these far right comments are coming from the 'Anglo Sax' the supreme specie. Only such individuals can be conservative and they are the only perfect specie. They know everything and they can even read minds. They know the true heart of a man.

                                          There they go using scare tactics. They don't even have the intelligence to raise issues that can be debated. Mentally bankrupt.

                                          Mr. President let your intelligence eclipse such a sea of folly and ignorance.

                                          I trust in God too I know Him, I hope your relationship with Him grows Mr. President.

                                          personally

                                          • 5 votes
                                          Reply#25 - Thu Aug 19, 2010 4:10 PM EDT
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