Paul has narrow lead in KY-SEN

Kentucky Senate GOP candidate Rand Paul may have recently been the butt of bong jokes aplenty in the national press, but so far he’s maintaining a lead - albeit a narrow one - with likely voters in the November general election race against state attorney general Jack Conway.

A new Reuters/Ipsos poll of likely voters shows Paul leading 45 percent to Conway’s 40. (Among registered voters, it’s a dead heat, 40-40 percent.)

Paul has recently received national media attention for a (partially debunked) GQ story involving marijuana use and “kidnapping” -- and he’s also taken hits in the local press, most recently for mistakenly suggesting that church parishioners had thrown beer on him.

But the stories don’t appear to be sticking at home. More than half of Kentucky voters said that they had not heard about the college-days prank, in which Paul allegedly tried to force a female friend to smoke marijuana and worship a mythical deity named “Aqua Buddha.” Of those that had heard about the story, less than a third believed the anonymous accuser's account to be true or mostly true.

The Ipsos poll of 600 registered voters had a margin of error of plus-or-minus 4 percentage points.

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Wow, that sounds like a Fox-museem push poll; likely voters;hummmm?

  • 7 votes
Reply#1 - Tue Aug 17, 2010 4:31 PM EDT

ME TOO! Can't imagine voting for someone who wants to privatise social security.

  • 10 votes
#1.1 - Tue Aug 17, 2010 5:30 PM EDT

why not, can't take care of your own business? need the corrupt regime to do everything for you?

  • 6 votes
#1.2 - Tue Aug 17, 2010 6:17 PM EDT

HuskyforLiberty

Are you talking about GWB and how he handled thing? Are are you too worshiping at the feet of the great green skunk smelling god Aqua Buddha?

  • 9 votes
#1.3 - Tue Aug 17, 2010 6:57 PM EDT

Funny, this is the only poll I have seen showing the race close at all. Rasmussen show Paul up by 8 and Opionion Dynamics shows Paul in a 10 point lead.

    #1.4 - Wed Aug 18, 2010 1:22 PM EDT
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    The land of Kentucky whisky and moonshine and people think there would be a problem with his alcohol use? It seems that KY needs to wake up to how dangerous Rand Paul is with or without the booz.

    • 9 votes
    Reply#2 - Tue Aug 17, 2010 4:34 PM EDT

    Go Rand Paul! End the Fed!

    • 7 votes
    Reply#3 - Tue Aug 17, 2010 4:40 PM EDT

    How about privatising your social security and medicare?

    • 8 votes
    #3.1 - Tue Aug 17, 2010 5:31 PM EDT

    yay Paul... take us back to the 19th century, back when all you needed was a good horse and a Winchester. Let the Chinese own the modern world, here in America we'll be free to ride and shoot.

    • 9 votes
    #3.2 - Tue Aug 17, 2010 5:56 PM EDT

    You finally made a good post, Joe Mota !!! I knew you could !!

      #3.3 - Tue Aug 17, 2010 6:13 PM EDT

      agreed

      • 1 vote
      #3.4 - Tue Aug 17, 2010 6:17 PM EDT

      Due to the liberal polices in this country over the last few decades China will become the leader of the modern world anyway and we will be in the mess Greece is in right now. There has been an entitlement mentality building up in our society for decades and it just getting worst. If things don't change soon we will have a majority of people who rely on the government for every aspect of their lives and won't know any better.

      • 1 vote
      #3.5 - Thu Aug 19, 2010 10:49 AM EDT
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      Having been in Kentucky, I can say there are some pretty stupid people there, which accounts for his lead in the polls.

      • 11 votes
      Reply#4 - Tue Aug 17, 2010 4:41 PM EDT

      Careful, we have at least one good poster on here from KY. It is a shame, though, that people like Paul and people that vote for people like Paul bring the 'uncle Dad' jokes down on the rest of the good folk in the Bluegrass State.

      • 3 votes
      #4.1 - Tue Aug 17, 2010 5:14 PM EDT

      Hey!!! I live in KY. We're not all McConnelly brainwashed Idiots. Paul is a right wingnut and anybody that's not their own step-father Knows that!!!

      • 8 votes
      #4.2 - Tue Aug 17, 2010 7:38 PM EDT

      Suzanne - Obama was elected so 52.9% of Americans must be pretty stupid as well.

        #4.3 - Thu Aug 19, 2010 11:00 AM EDT
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        If the voters haven't heard of his college days pranks, I can say it's because the media there doesn't report anything. I was there in the 70s and the nightly news was replaced by the local Knights of Columbus meetings or the local high school basketball games. So much for an "informed" public. A joke in Kentucky.

        • 3 votes
        Reply#5 - Tue Aug 17, 2010 4:44 PM EDT

        Who are you? I had never heard of Saint Suzanne? Get a life. Even if he did the pranks, he was a college kid. So he had a little fun?!? Sounds like you could use some.

        • 9 votes
        #5.1 - Tue Aug 17, 2010 4:58 PM EDT

        They haven't heard of it because A) No internet or B) can't read.

        • 5 votes
        #5.2 - Tue Aug 17, 2010 5:57 PM EDT

        I thought liberals hated stereotyping? I guess it's ok to stereotype people who don't agree with them? What open-mindedness!

        • 9 votes
        #5.3 - Tue Aug 17, 2010 6:13 PM EDT

        I guess the libs can't remember their confessed toker, Slick Willie, or confessed President Powder Nose Obammy.

        • 8 votes
        #5.4 - Tue Aug 17, 2010 6:15 PM EDT

        Porkbevr

        What about Bush's days as a drunk until he found "Jesus" or his days snorting coke as well. Can't jus blame Clinton and Obama when we had a loser and moron at everything he ever did in the Whitehouse for 8 years. Lets not forget about Darth Cheney shooting his dear old friend in the face!

        • 8 votes
        #5.5 - Tue Aug 17, 2010 7:05 PM EDT

        Philip - Alcohol isn't illegal. I never found a credible source about GWB's coke use, only liberal blogs.

        Cheney shooting his friend in the face - Priceless.......

        • 2 votes
        #5.6 - Tue Aug 17, 2010 7:15 PM EDT

        Liberals, good at criticizing - not good at taking the heat.

        Good at increasing taxes - not good at paying them. (See: John Kerry parking his yacht in another state and Howard Metzenbaum Escaping Estate Taxes in Florida instead of paying them in Ohio). Can you say hypocrites and scumbags?

        • 5 votes
        #5.7 - Tue Aug 17, 2010 7:48 PM EDT

        the real joke is on u ...HYPOcrite.....lol

        • 1 vote
        #5.8 - Tue Aug 17, 2010 10:57 PM EDT

        thanks for the 2nd grade rebuttal. Can't expect anything more from a lib.

        "Your mom is a whore."

        Liberal Rebuttal: "YOUR mom is a whore too!"

        "Ok. But that doesn't debunk my original statement about your mom being a whore. She's STILL a whore."

        God you people are stupid.

        • 2 votes
        #5.9 - Tue Aug 17, 2010 11:06 PM EDT
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        You know, if Kentuckians wish to be ruled by idiocy they should at least keep it on the local level.........maybe governor or something...........but not to inject their love of ignorance into the U.S. senate where it would be harmful to the rest of us.

        • 10 votes
        Reply#6 - Tue Aug 17, 2010 4:45 PM EDT

        boss Hogg for U. S. Senate!!

        • 2 votes
        #6.1 - Tue Aug 17, 2010 6:22 PM EDT
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        LOL listen to the libs bashing KY.

        What will you say if the dem wins?

        Don't worry, I'm used to libs talking out of both of their faces.

        • 5 votes
        Reply#7 - Tue Aug 17, 2010 4:50 PM EDT

        Steven B:

        I don't see anyone bashing all of Kentucky per say. All I see are some folks bashing those in Kentucky who would even think of voting for Paul. If a Dem wins then I'm sure those same people doing any bashing would agree that the majority of the folks in Kentucky are some pretty bright and intelligent common sense people.

        • 7 votes
        #7.1 - Tue Aug 17, 2010 5:04 PM EDT

        Steven B,

        I do not consider myself a liberal. Nor am I beating up on Kentucky. Some of my best friends are Kentuckians, haha. But if they elect Mr. Paul the truth of the matter would be that the voters will have done a very stupid act, and that the nation as a whole would suffer such idiocy.

        Old saying from somewhere long ago, maybe from Aqua Buddha? "If you cannot accept truth as a friend, then you must accept truth as a conqueror with his boot heel upon your neck."

        If all these right wing nuts like Paul and the wacko lady from Nevada get into office and gut our constitution we might all have a boot on our neck. Bush and Cheney did enough damage along those lines. Give us a break, man!

        • 4 votes
        #7.2 - Tue Aug 17, 2010 6:01 PM EDT

        They would not be no more wacko than Minn for electing a damn comedian Al Frankken.

        What did Bush do to you personally? What about your life was changed? Left Wing NUT.....

        • 5 votes
        #7.3 - Tue Aug 17, 2010 7:03 PM EDT

        Steven B

        I guess thats something only conservatives do right? GOP stand for Hyprocisy because that what they are. They say one thing like Stimulus bad, yet show up to take pictures when the stimulus has done something for their districts or state. How they want to get to the bottom of thissue w/ the Banks, but McConnell is taking his marching orders from them.

        ITM

        Did you know that Franken was the one who made the GOP side w/ rapists? 33 Repubs voted to make it impossible for a plaintiff to sue a company if raped on the job and the company did nothing to the rapist. Nice to know where Conservatives stand on the issue of rape.

        • 5 votes
        #7.4 - Tue Aug 17, 2010 7:17 PM EDT

        If the California libtards can keep sending that stupid BEOTCH Pelosi to Washington, then how will Kentucky sending Rand Paul be any worse. Pelosi has got to be the dumbest person in politics and that is saying a lot.

        • 4 votes
        #7.5 - Tue Aug 17, 2010 7:42 PM EDT

        If you want to know what Bush did your life read the Patriot act. I'm all for smaller government, as long as big brother stays off my back. I'm really surprized Bush didn't put an end to gun shows, with his Nazi style laws.

        • 2 votes
        #7.6 - Tue Aug 17, 2010 8:09 PM EDT
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        I can't be smug, I come from the land of Scott Brown, but it really is discouraging that intellectual lightweights like Rand Paul receive the support they do. When Rand and his supporters are directed to uncomfortable facts or statements, they just choose not to believe them and spin their own alternative (to) reality. Rand and his followers are the reason this country can't get anything done anymore.

        • 10 votes
        Reply#8 - Tue Aug 17, 2010 4:52 PM EDT

        You're an idiot. Intellectual lightweight? That guy knows more about the constitution and economics than 90% of congress.

        • 8 votes
        #8.1 - Tue Aug 17, 2010 5:00 PM EDT

        Paul's so dumb he doesn't know that it's the Supreme Court that interprets the meaning of the constitution, not far right wackos.

        • 8 votes
        #8.2 - Tue Aug 17, 2010 5:23 PM EDT

        I would say 95% of Congress. When you even mention the Constitution to most of them they break out a wooden cross.

        • 3 votes
        #8.3 - Tue Aug 17, 2010 5:53 PM EDT

        Jose, how did a non-board certified eye doctor become such a constitutional or economic expert? I wouldn't go see him to have my eyes checked!

        • 6 votes
        #8.4 - Tue Aug 17, 2010 6:21 PM EDT

        I hate to inject any actual knowledge into this discussion but the Constitution does not give the Supremes the sole authority to interpret the Constitution. Justice Marshall grabbed all the power in Marbury v. Madison, Gibbons v. Ogden and McCullock v. Maryland. You might try reading what Jefferson and Madison( who wrote the thing) thought of that. (Not much see Kentucky and Virginia Resolutions). President Jackson ( a hero to Dems but not to Jeffersonian Republicans now almost extinct) famously said on a later occasion of Supreme hubris "Mr Justice Marshall has made his decision, now let him try to enforce it" Rand and Ron are not as far off the original intent as you might think. The imperial gov in Wash started with you statist Republicans and Lincoln imprisoning journalists and legislators and accelerated with Wilson and the Dems. Please calm down a bit. We have big problems in this country that need more light and less heat.

          #8.5 - Tue Aug 17, 2010 8:26 PM EDT
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          Are you saying the KY Repubs may LOSE this seat! HA, love it! I would be SO thrilled if Robin Carnahan picks this MO seat AND the Dems pick this KY seat. That sure effs with the Repub map. Is Michael Steele doing anything right now? Other than taking his paycheck in small bills - you know, for tip money!

          • 9 votes
          Reply#9 - Tue Aug 17, 2010 4:52 PM EDT

          Wake up, Clara...you're becoming delusional. Rand Paul isn't going to lose.

          Next you'll be having fantasies about Alvin Greene...

          • 6 votes
          #9.1 - Tue Aug 17, 2010 5:13 PM EDT

          Is Alan Greene one of those that Bachman thinks might just be DA man??

          • 1 vote
          #9.2 - Tue Aug 17, 2010 5:45 PM EDT
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          I wonder of the less than a third of the half that have heard about Paul's college stories who do not believe they are true about Paul believe that Obama was born outside the U.S. My guess would be that two thirds or more of the half that have heard about Paul's college stories believe that Obama was born outside the U.S.

          It would appear that if you are from Kentucky there is no need to try and figure out what it is I just stated above. A little too complicated for you.

          • 5 votes
          Reply#10 - Tue Aug 17, 2010 4:58 PM EDT

          I think the problem is that many people in KY can't read, so all they know is what they hear on the radio.

          • 4 votes
          #10.1 - Tue Aug 17, 2010 5:44 PM EDT

          where do you get your info. Joe, as you dust off that high school diploma?

          • 2 votes
          #10.2 - Tue Aug 17, 2010 6:20 PM EDT

          CA, what is your point, besides trying to insult an entire state through your idiotic stereotyping?

          Try this on for size: my guess is that the same people who believe Obama never heard Jeremiah Wright make incendiary remarks about white people and the USA despite being a member of his church for 20 years and referring to him as an "uncle" are the same ones who believe that Bristol Palin actually gave birth to Trig and Sarah Palin is covering for her (you know, the whole rumor that was going around during the 2008 election?).

          Get over yourself.

          The people of Kentucky know what is best for Kentucky. Let them decide who they want to represent THEM in Congress. We do live in a REPRESENTATIVE democracy, you know. They aren't voting for the person who will best represent CA, Tuscaloosa, AL.

          • 7 votes
          #10.3 - Tue Aug 17, 2010 6:28 PM EDT

          You know, CA, last time I checked AL is in the same area of the country as KY. Can we assume "stupid by nearness" about AL? You know, CA, you make some good points sometimes, but I pretty much don't ready your posts anymore because your ignorance shows in your stereotyping, name-calling and hate-filled comments and erases any of the good things you might say.

          • 5 votes
          #10.4 - Tue Aug 17, 2010 7:15 PM EDT
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          I really hate to say this, but I wonder if some people go into the voting booth and pick the person they're going to vote for by doing eeny-meeny-miney-mo. I don't think any research goes into the process.

          It's scary to think how some of the representatives and senators get elected. Too much of the time it appears that the voters look at the letter representing the party they belong to and that's who they decide to vote for.

          If people would bother to listen to the candidates, find out what they stand for, and research who is backing the candidate, we might actually have better lawmakers in Washington. Unfortunately, that won't happen as long as the American public is more interested in American Idol, Survivor, Big Brother, etc.

          The things that I have heard Rand Paul state as his beliefs scares me to death!! The problem is the people that can vote for Rand Paul are not paying attention.

          • 6 votes
          Reply#11 - Tue Aug 17, 2010 5:03 PM EDT

          If people on welfare can vote then anything goes. They can vote themselves more money from the Treasury they don't contribute to.

          • 2 votes
          #11.1 - Tue Aug 17, 2010 5:55 PM EDT

          Julie, how presumptuous of you to know what is best for everyone! If only YOU could dictate to people who they should vote for....

          Those poor, stupid souls who don't have the intellectual capacity that you do....I feel for them.

          Get over yourself.

          • 5 votes
          #11.2 - Tue Aug 17, 2010 6:33 PM EDT

          You know, CA, last time I checked AL is in the same area of the country as KY. Can we assume "stupid by nearness" about AL? You know, CA, you make some good points sometimes, but I pretty much don't ready your posts anymore because your ignorance shows in your stereotyping, name-calling and hate-filled comments and erases any of the good things you might say.

          • 3 votes
          #11.3 - Tue Aug 17, 2010 7:17 PM EDT

          This is precisely why I'm a registered independent. Voting entirely on party lines really show the lack of a persons true intelligence. Rand Paul has some good ideas, but his arguments on Civil rights are just wrong. However, if we're talking about his knowledge of the economy I'd rather vote for Ben Stein, at least he is in fact an economist.

            #11.4 - Tue Aug 17, 2010 7:18 PM EDT

            Julie, how do you know they're "not paying attention"? Are you psychic?

            Arrogance is not a pretty characteristic, Julie

            • 2 votes
            #11.5 - Tue Aug 17, 2010 7:19 PM EDT

            I guarantee you that many people vote entirely on the party lines but I wouldn't go as far as saying the majority, but a solid 45% seems about reasonable per party. How many, would be impossible to know. A large majority of the people I know do vote exclusively on party lines. In some cases they know nothing about the person they are voting for aside from the party they represent. Ignorance is bliss.

            • 1 vote
            #11.6 - Tue Aug 17, 2010 7:48 PM EDT
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            Memo To: Domenico Montanaro MSNBC

            I did not read your response to me yesterday relative to Rick Scott running for Governor FL, the HCA CEO whose company committed Medicare Fraud to the most venerable among us and paid the highest fine in our history, $1.9 Billion dollars to the Department of Justice to prevent criminal charges. Thanks for responding nice to know you are interested in our responses in your effort to deliver important news.

            However, you did not address my specific position.

            My position is the following;

            We the people deserve to have the truth delivered about these candidates every time you write any article. These corrupt candidates/politicians count on you and other Cable news organizations to mention their corruption once and move on they count on you doing just that.

            That’s why they “flood” the air waves with their messages instead of the truth.

            Hopefully you will give this position some consideration because that’s why the majority of Americans don’t trust media news organizations.

            When Money buys the air ways and those doing the buying can count on their messages getting through because they know the media will not be persistent and diligent in providing the American people with their significant histories and backgrounds especially the corrupt ones,

            That’s how politicians and candidates such as Mr. Scott slip through the cracks

            As a result we the public and the new media loose.

            • 3 votes
            Reply#12 - Tue Aug 17, 2010 5:03 PM EDT

            Your correct. Beileve half of what you see and none of what you hear. There maybe a little truth in each story but for the most part the majority of our news agencies are a money hungry fraud. All they want is to report on a story that'll grab the attention of their viewers and demographic. Then cater the add's and commercials to types of views that watch. This couldn't be more clear with all the fraudulent GOLD sales commercials on Fox news. (just an example, all news agencies do this) They actually feed into the fears of the viewers that GOLD Coins are a safe solid investment and are easily convertable into cash. What a crock of $%^&. Gold Stock investments, Gold mine investments, and Gold bars (bullion) are far superior to Gold coins. Any true investment analyst will tell you to diversify but buying something that is not relatively easy to sell or covnert into cash is stupid. You are better off buying Pork bellies or frozen concentrated orange juice then Gold coins.

              #12.1 - Tue Aug 17, 2010 8:03 PM EDT
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              If Kentucky elects Rand Paul it will make all the jokes about family trees not branching look a whole lot more realistic.

              • 8 votes
              Reply#13 - Tue Aug 17, 2010 5:07 PM EDT

              best post of the day, bar none!

              • 2 votes
              #13.1 - Tue Aug 17, 2010 5:39 PM EDT
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              Additionally, recent polling in Kentucky in July and August has Rand Paul up by 10 points (CN|2/Braun Research), 8 points (Survey USA), and 8 points (Rasmussen Reports). He's actually improved his numbers since becoming the Republican candidate for Senate in Kentucky.

              Doesn't look like Jack Conway's making much headway.

              In fairness...President Obama's not helping him much.

              • 1 vote
              Reply#14 - Tue Aug 17, 2010 5:08 PM EDT

              Proving time and again that if you don't like that poll, we'll just print us another.

              PS. MB, aren't you from Ohio? You really think you ought to be dabbling in KY politics?

              • 2 votes
              #14.1 - Tue Aug 17, 2010 5:39 PM EDT

              Not from Ohio, Clara...

              Not anywhere near Ohio.

              And...I had no problem with the Reuters/Ipsos poll.

              It's just another poll showing Rand Paul leading Jack Conway.

              Perfectly consistent with the results of other recent Kentucky polling.

              • 3 votes
              #14.2 - Tue Aug 17, 2010 5:54 PM EDT

              I could swear you were part of the Full Moon Dog Gang,...

              Well, any poll prior to October 30th is pure speculation; but if you want to pin your fall season hopes on it, be my guest.

                #14.3 - Tue Aug 17, 2010 11:08 PM EDT
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                Hey, who are you to call Aqual Budda mythical? What if I called Jesus mythical? They both make the same ammount of sense and should be treated with the same respect.

                • 4 votes
                Reply#15 - Tue Aug 17, 2010 5:11 PM EDT

                For some reason, seeing your post caused an old, old, comercial to start playing in my head.

                Think sports broadcasts, a LONG LONG time ago... A sexy babe, singing "there's some - thing about an A - QUA BUU- dah Maaaannnn...."

                • 1 vote
                #15.1 - Tue Aug 17, 2010 5:18 PM EDT
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                I tell you, this is 1980 and 1994 all over again. It doesn't matter how bad the Republicans are. The voters only see that they are not the Democrats. That's why you see so many new faces for November and 2012 wannabes. If you are not a Democrat, you have shot at winning.

                • 3 votes
                Reply#16 - Tue Aug 17, 2010 5:12 PM EDT

                You make a good point, whatever your reason is RW. When I look at how Americans have been so all over the board over the last 18 months, not to mention buying into the teabagger thing, it gives me pause. I don't mind seeing Democrats get beat, Harry Reid deserves it. Its just the wacko notions that so many of these right wingers are spouting out. The scary thing is, people seem to be buying it. Bill Maher may have hit it right, America could prove to be too stupid to survive.

                • 2 votes
                #16.1 - Tue Aug 17, 2010 6:49 PM EDT
                Reply

                Apparently the smartest mammals in Kentucky are the horses

                • 7 votes
                Reply#17 - Tue Aug 17, 2010 5:14 PM EDT

                No, the squirrels are smarter.

                • 4 votes
                #17.1 - Tue Aug 17, 2010 5:17 PM EDT

                Yeah, you don't see SQUIRRELS running around in circles for a bag of oats, do ya!?

                • 2 votes
                #17.2 - Tue Aug 17, 2010 6:18 PM EDT
                Reply

                I believe some of our Texas beer-guzzling rednecks are temporarily migrating to Kentucky to support the son of their beloved Ron Paul, and thereby skewing the polls and the upcoming election as well. Hope the Kentuckians have strict residence and ID requirements for voters at the voting stations.

                • 3 votes
                Reply#18 - Tue Aug 17, 2010 5:22 PM EDT

                The news of Rand Paul's lead in the kentucky senate race is making it increasingly difficult to identify which of America's states is the most backward in its mentality, bigotry and world view. For a while it seemed clear that it was Arizona. This recent poll sadly suggested that the lack of political intelligence has infected not only the republican party but most states in America as well. I look forward to leaving the mentally stunted land of my birth behind me. Whatever ill fortune it suffers will undoubtedly be of its own making. Friends aside, it will deserve little pity, especially if it is stupid enough to elect idiotic bigots like Rand Paul

                • 5 votes
                Reply#19 - Tue Aug 17, 2010 5:24 PM EDT

                It's a disease spreading fast across America called "Obamanitis". Symptoms include elevated temperatures and vomiting at the mention of Barack Obama.

                • 5 votes
                #19.1 - Tue Aug 17, 2010 5:29 PM EDT
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                Only Democrat publicly released polls show Rand even or 2 points behind. Every other poll for the last three months have consistently show Rand Paul ahead 6 - 8 points.

                • 1 vote
                Reply#20 - Tue Aug 17, 2010 5:40 PM EDT

                DB, if Paul gets elected, it won't necessarily help republicans get anything done.... his wacky libertarianism does not align with republicanism all that well... republicans will vote for him simply because he's not a democrat. then they'll be stuck with a wacko senator for 6 years whose impact on legislation will be unpredictable, and whose influence on policy minscule.

                • 1 vote
                #20.1 - Tue Aug 17, 2010 5:50 PM EDT
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                The worse Rand looks the more it tells you just how bad the incumbent or challenger is. It is not the stupidity of the Kentucky voters but the caliber of the entire candidate pool. What they DO NOT want is more of the same kind of people and receive more of the same results. Whoever is going to win most of these races is not going to be a mainstream candidate following party lines.

                Heck if we wanted that we could just skip the election and have this Congress let all of Mexico and South America run into the country, double the national debt, make a $4 trillion dollar poor excuse of a budget and run the US into a third world country by next year.

                Most people want as far away from a mainstream politician and these two parties as they can get.

                • 1 vote
                Reply#21 - Tue Aug 17, 2010 6:03 PM EDT

                Now I see how tubesteaks like Paul get elected! It's like Parkinson's Law - total b@llsh!+ drives out ordinary b@llsh!+ every time!

                  #21.1 - Tue Aug 17, 2010 6:16 PM EDT

                  Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Paul replacing Bunning who 'chose' not to run? Bunning sure doesn't seem mainstream to me! Of course, they already have McConnell. 'nuf said.

                  • 2 votes
                  #21.2 - Tue Aug 17, 2010 6:35 PM EDT

                  Yes! Remember Bunning flipping the "bird" to a reporter who asked him to comment on why he held up unemployment payments for extensions already approved? Expect the same from Rand Paul.

                  • 2 votes
                  #21.3 - Tue Aug 17, 2010 8:01 PM EDT
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                  Cherijae - can you please explain why taking a portion of the money that you're ALREADY having removed from your paycheck and letting YOU control how it's used in a personal account under YOUR name is a bad thing?   Giving 6.2% of your paycheck to the Federal Gov't to manage is like throwing it down the toilet... you'll NEVER get anything CLOSE to what you put into the system back.  The ONLY reason Democrats don't like the idea of giving personal control over one's own finances is that means there's less money for them steal from the public to spend as they see fit.   I for one salute anyone who would like to hand more control of personal income back to the people who earned it to begin with.

                  • 3 votes
                  Reply#22 - Tue Aug 17, 2010 6:20 PM EDT

                  Congress needs the trillions from Social Security to run through the General Fund so they can include its surplus in the budget. They can also skim and "reallocate" it to their lobbies. Why else would anyone want responsibility for a bankrupt fund? They can't make a profit or get a surplus anymore but they can still steal from it.

                  This is also why they need the healthcare fund to replace it. They need a fresh fund with four years of surplus money to pillage. They are drooling just thinking about all that money just sitting with ZERO restrictions on Congressional usage/borrowing. They will bankrupt that fund the same as all the others.

                  • 3 votes
                  #22.1 - Tue Aug 17, 2010 6:37 PM EDT

                  The difference between this and borrowing from the fund and leaving IOUs is....?

                    #22.2 - Tue Aug 17, 2010 6:57 PM EDT
                    Reply

                    YEAHT!! Well, it IS Kentucky, after all.

                      Reply#23 - Tue Aug 17, 2010 6:29 PM EDT

                      Get real..this guy is nutty as a fruitcake. He makes Sarah Palin seem bright.

                      • 4 votes
                      Reply#24 - Tue Aug 17, 2010 6:43 PM EDT

                      Truman, don't hurt yourself - we have yet to meet the politician that can make Sarah Palin seem bright,...

                      • 1 vote
                      #24.1 - Tue Aug 17, 2010 11:11 PM EDT
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                      Instead of worrying about what he did in college, voters should pay attention to what he believes now. Among those are the idea that the government should not create and enforce safety rules for miners, that the oil companies should not be penalized for a major spill or for safety violations that kill a few of their workers, that individuals who run businesses should be allowed to discriminate against minorities and that we don't really need financial regulations to prevent economic disasters. In other words, he wants to return the country to the good old days of the 19th century.

                      • 4 votes
                      Reply#25 - Tue Aug 17, 2010 6:49 PM EDT

                      Instead of worrying about what he did in college, voters should pay attention to what he believes now.

                      You mean like conservatives do with Michelle Obama's thesis paper?

                        #25.1 - Tue Aug 17, 2010 11:40 PM EDT
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