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How big of a political problem are Sharron Angle's past statements on Social Security?
Big enough that the Republican challenging Harry Reid in Nevada's Senate contest is now airing a TV ad in which she calls to "save" the entitlement program for seniors. "We have a contract with our seniors who have put into Social Security in good faith," she says in the advertisement. "I’d like to save Social Security by locking the lock box, putting the money back into the Trust Fund so government can no longer raid our retirement."
Her desire to "save Social Security," however, it at odds with what she said during the primaries.
Angle's Web site back then had discussed transitioning out of the program.
"Free market alternatives, which offer retirement choices to employees and employers, must be developed and offered to those still in their wage earning years, as the Social Security system is transitioned out. Young workers must be encouraged to investigate personal retirement account options."
Her Web site, though, has since been scrubbed and now says this:
We must keep the promise of Social Security by redeeming the "IOU's" that have been written to the Social Security Trust Fund and then putting that money in a lock box that cannot ever be raided again by Washington politicians. The only way we pay for it is by cutting spending. We should also create personalized accounts for the next generation that cannot be raided.
And during a May primary debate, Angle called for phasing out Social Security and Medicare. “We need to phase Medicare and Social Security out in favor of something privatized,” she said.
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Why do libs get so bent out of shape when someone suggests allowing people to opt out of Social Security? Don't politicians opt out? I haven't seen any politicians in a soup line recently. It's funny that politicians say that the stock market is to risky, so people should not be allowed to invest their retirement funds there. Where do you folks suppose Harry Reid has his retirement money?
I am going to be 50 years old in September. I have been involuntarily paying into this Ponzi scheme my entire working life. I hope I have enough money to live on in my 401K when I retire, because Social Security will be gone by then.
Is she the next Palin, because if she is, just go ahead and give her the money. I tell ya, if being a clueless Republican is the way to riches, welll then there are plenty of people out there that will fit the bill.
There is no originality to unoriginality.
what the hell is she talking about...another politician that just blows hot air
Are her 15 minutes up yet?
She seems to have difficulty deciding which angle to work.
Bhahahahahahahahaha!
You mean the crazy angle or the liar angle?
Back from my more conservative view on border security to a more liberal view concerning Angle. Anyone, and I mean anyone, supporting or voting for this person in Arizona has got to go and have their heads examined.
I assume you meant to say Nevada, not Arizona?
Heartlight3:
Thanks. I stand corrected. Nevada. I just came from the thread speaking of illegal immigration and the AZ law so had AZ on the mind. Thanks again.
Sharron Angle is a real live talking puppet. She simply says what her handlers tell her to say. It looks better for Harry Reid every day.
Behind the rhetoric: Sharron Angle’s real position on social security (hint: kill it) http://bit.ly/cKNMRU
Angle didn't do a 180--she is just your run of the mill liar.
Brain Dead
All together now..."FLIP----FLOP" (repeat, while considering yourself cute somehow while doing it)
This woman reminds me of another " weirdO".... palin .Both members of religious cults ..
She is taking the Obama position. Remember all the things Obama promised to do if elected and then changed his mind after getting elected. People have a right to change their minds about political ideas. Anyone who believes SS would be privatized or done away with, no matter who is elected, is really stupid. This is just another left wingers talking point, when you can't talk about Reid's accomplishments bash the other candidate. Before criticizing Angle you might want to see how many of Obama's election promises have been kept. The fact that Reid is having a very tough time with a political unknown speaks volumes for how insecure he really is. Reid should be ahead by 20+ points. He is senate leader, long time incumbent and has a well established name yet he is in the fight of his life. I do notice that most of the negative comments are from posters that don't live in Nevada. This for Mark Murray of first read: How many of Obama's campaign promises that were not have you published in a negative view point? Candidates from both parties are always changing positions.
U sound just like the bubble-heads (republicans) president Obama came in as President ,with two wars that the former repbulican President & vice President lied to all Americans about to get Haliburtons stock moving upward , also the worst economy since the depression , which the republican held congress gave him a blank check , this over the course of 10 years he hasent had time to do half of what he promised because of the party of "NO" they dont want him to get anything done so followers like U will think that ..So dont blame The President for the Crap he was handed....
sfc,
You knew that was coming, bush,bush,bush..............christ it's getting old. He never answered your post though.
You really sound like your name bubba.You don't know the first thing except what you hear from the left wing nuts talking points. First it wasn't the worse economy since the great depression until the democrats took over congress in 2007. I did support the war in Afghanistan but not as it was and is being fought. I did not support the war with Iraq which I feel was the wrong war at the wrong time. As for why Obama hasn't been able to do what he promised is not because of the republicans, remember he had a majority in the house and a filibuster breaking majority in the senate. Not one of Obama's programs have had the support of the majority of Americans, yet he and the democratic congress forced it down the peoples throats. Face it, he is in over his head and don't know what to do. He has lousy advisers and worse cabinet members. Get a life Bubba and smell the coffee, it is much better than the Obama cool aid.
buba,
Hate to give you some facts, I'm sure you will answer with insults, but Bush was in office for 8 years, not 10. Republicans lost control on January 2007. The economy was tanking when? The Economist say the Fall of 2007. Haliburton has been involved with the Military since 1996 (Balkins). You fail to understand the the Democrats have total control of everything. If you think Obama's spending is a good thing, then OK, keep believing in that.
Not to quibble, but Halliburton's involvement in war support and the military dates back to Vietnam.
Richard,
I didn't know it went back that far, I just know from when I was in Bosnia in 98-Iraq 05/06 and 09.....
Pure entertainment. I'm going to miss her on November 3rd when she is never heard from again.
A note to the media, we will not tolerate anybody f^&king with SS so quit with the suttle propaganda y'all are doing . She is a good example of why the riechwing droolers of the dopes of nope GOBP are going to get thumped come Nov.
What is the medias current approval rating.
Damn, if I were just another ignorant liberal democrap, I'd swear she sounds just like Nancy Palosi. Face it, the whole bunch is corrupt Harry R. included. Hard to call any politician stupid when you libs put a Harvard trained ignoramus in office. Reap it and eat it...
You gotta admit however, ugly as she is, she's easy to look at the Harry the lying weasel.
Dan:
Wow. Your rant is one insult after another.
Name calling is the last resort for those who cannot argue on the facts.
Damn, if I were just another ignorant liberal democrap, I'd swear she sounds just like Nancy Palosi. Face it, the whole bunch is corrupt Harry R. included. Hard to call any politician stupid when you libs put a Harvard trained ignoramus in office. Reap it and eat it...
Durango Dan is obviously so much smarter than anyone else, he doesn't know what an oxymoron is or when he's written one. Nice going Dan!
Jose:
Not only that, he had to say it twice.
US, problem is it didn't make any sense the second time either.
Candidates from both parties do this but it is really blatant in the GOP. They run to the hard liners in the primary and then try to sound halfway reasonable for the general election. That being said this woman is trying to backtrack so far I hope for once the mainstream press calls her on it. What is more scary is that some of these GOP Tea partiers don't even back track - Rand Paul. They continue to be way out of the mainstream and they are not called as extremists by the MSM.
Angles' new statement calls for "personal accounts" for the younger generation. I assume she still wants to put those new personal accounts into the roller coaster ride and free falls of the "infallible" private stock market.
Where would we be if GW Bush's personalized social security idea had been passed before the markets tanked?
Hmmm!! Talking about brainless, where is JoannaSmith. I thought she would be the first to defend her seeing as she thinks................... oops!! sorry, she doesn't think.
this woman is a idiot
Wow, that thought provoking Frank...
Palin's an idiot. This woman is a freakin', crazy idiot. There is a difference.
Face it ya all, we got the Republican Party of "Nopes" and the Democrat Party of "Dopes". It's not looking bright for any of us. Our Nation is being plowed into the ground by the Nopa Dopes. At least the Tea Party folks (right or wrong) are trying to make a difference. It's something rather then the same old B.S. from these classless politicians we have looking out for their own self interest now.
Durango Dan
Face it ya all, we got the Republican Party of "Nopes" and the Democrat Party of "Dopes". It's not looking bright for any of us. Our Nation is being plowed into the ground by the Nopa Dopes. At least the Tea Party folks (right or wrong) are trying to make a difference. It's something rather then the same old B.S. from these classless politicians we have looking out for their own self interest now.
So Dan, if the tea party is looking out for Us then why did she change her position on SS. i know, TO GET ELECTED. tea party, nopes and dopes all have the some thing in common, they want to get elected. sorry they are all the same, tea party is no different.
at lunch fox news ran a story about a republican politican saying that sarah should stay out of the endorsement game, because she is dividing the party. i say keep it up sarah your doing a hell of a job.
Darn she looks like Palin and talks like Obama. Just say anything that pops into your head and if it doesn't fly claim a misspeak. Gibbs is good at that also, or heck just claim a Biden!
youve got to admit between her and palin , what a brain surgery team
Awww.... how sweet. She's no longer standing on her principles; she's just saying what people want to hear. So she really IS becoming a plain-old politician who will say anything to get elected.
Hello? Tea Party? How you like Sharron now?
Barack Obama is on record as favoring single payer national health insurance. Then he changed his mind. Or altered his position. Or lied. Or said what he needed to get elected. Or said what he needed to get a bill passed, any bill.
And that's all from the top dude!
Ho hum. Sounds like election season.
It's sounded like election season since January 30, 2009. It sounds just like 2007 and 2008.
The campaigner-in-chief is in high gear along with everyone else.
I look forward to another three months of it and Barack Obama's November 3, 2010 announcement that he's running for a second term in 2012 on a platform of "well, it was so bad when I took office I just haven't had a chance and I think I deserve another four years because it was so bad when I took office and I just need another chance. It's not any better now than when I took office, but that's just because it was so bad when I took office, even worse than I expected and I had no idea it would be that bad, but suffice it to say that it was just so bad and I need four more years to straighten it out and I think the American people understand that."
Sharron Angle is just as good a politician as the prez.
Richard, Richard, Richard... you should REALLY check your facts first:
"Obama Has Consistently Said That If We Were Starting From Scratch, He Would Support A Single Payer System, But Now We Need To Build On The System We Have" - http://factcheck.barackobama.com/factcheck/2008/01/21/fact_check_obama_consistent_in.php
Awwww.... sorry, Richard. You're only half right. But that was a nice smear job you did with scrubbing half the facts!
And Sharron Angle is not only not in the same league as President Obama, she's not even in the same dimension. That woman is crazy.
Yes Jose you should:
http://www.factcheck.org/2009/07/obamas-health-care-news-conference/
Please feel free to comment....................
Uh, Jose, ol' buddy:
I MYSELF would not contend that my post had much to do with facts. It was about campaigning. Although Obama has said, literally, that he favors a single payer system. It was a bit longer ago than your 2008 citation, but he said it. And he has changed his position, or presented an altered position. I wouldn't say he's lying because he's just campaigning.
But I will concede Obama is indisputably, from every Angle, the Campaigner-in-Chief. No argument there.
By the way, you need to visit the Dan Quayle thread today and try to get a grip on frivolity.
Tea Party got class?!?!? Really? Now there's a novel concept!
The idea of locking the box is not new. The government was to collect the taxpayers social security portion and set it aside as a trust that would have collected trillions of dolloars for the seniors when they retired. However. It was in the minds of the thieves, the political parasites, just like Enron, to BORROW!, the money with interest. The funny part is every politician in Washington got their greedy hands on that borrowed money and for a lose of memory failed not only to pay back the principle but the interest to boot. Every year the social security funds paid for by the taxpayer is incorporated into the federal budget and the taxpayer has been thrown under the bus. Tell me, what is the difference of Wall Street stealing the contributions belonging to retirees, or, the government!.
I think it was Al Gore who last campaigned on the lockbox idea and he won the election. Oh wait, no he didn't. It was stolen from him.