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Subscribe to RSS“A federal judge on Wednesday blocked the most contested provisions of Arizona's new immigration law one day before they were to take effect, ratcheting up the legal and political debate over the increasingly divisive issue,” the Washington Post reports. “U.S. District Judge Susan R. Bolton's ruling handed the Obama administration a key initial victory in its lawsuit against Arizona and Gov. Jan Brewer (R). It also set up a legal struggle that is likely to play out over several years and across numerous states, with Brewer vowing to take the case to the U.S. Supreme Court and legal experts saying the high court is likely to hear it.”
The New York Times: “Judge Bolton, appointed to the bench by President Bill Clinton, did allow some, less debated provisions of the law to go into effect, including one that bans cities from refusing to cooperate with federal immigration agents. But she largely sided with arguments in a lawsuit by the Obama administration that the law, rather than closely hewing to existing federal statutes, as its supporters have claimed, interferes with longstanding federal authority over immigration and could lead to harassment of citizens and legal immigrants.”
Here’s how the Arizona Republic played the news: “Reactions Wednesday were predictably polarized. From Maricopa County Supervisor Mary Rose Wilcox, speaking to a gathering of Hispanic activists at her Phoenix restaurant: ‘We hope this decision will be a wake-up call across America that there is only one immigration law.’ From Republican state Sen. Russell Pearce, who sponsored the legislation and predicted that the U.S. Supreme Court eventually will uphold the entire law: ‘People don't understand, there was no ruling gutting the bill. It was a temporary roadblock in certain portions. We'll win those on appeal… I hoped for this battle.’”
Note that when NBC's Ann Curry asked Vice President Biden about the economy on the Today show and whether the administration is doing enough on the economy, he responded by saying, it is never doing enough until it restores the eight million jobs lost in the "Bush recession."
On tap for today: "President Barack Obama is defending his administration's education policies, responding to criticism that so far they have not substantially helped minority students," the AP writes, adding, "Obama was to speak Thursday at the centennial convention of the National Urban League, one of eight civil rights organizations that released a report this week calling the president's $4.35 billion education initiative an ineffective approach for failing schools."
More from the AP: "President Barack Obama's nominee to be chief of U.S. intelligence, James R. Clapper, is expected to be approved by the Senate Intelligence Committee when the panel meets Thursday.”
A preview of Obama’s appearance in “The View”: "President Obama charmed the ladies on 'The View' on Wednesday and confidently showed off his command of the big challenges facing the nation today. But the name Snooki didn't ring a bell," the New York Daily News writes. Yet Obama poked fun at the overblown stereotypes "Snooki" and "The Situation" in a Radio and Television Correspondents Association speech. (We guess someone else wrote the jokes.)
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The majority of the nation and the majority of people in AZ think the law is a good thing. Obama has once again gone against the will of the average American. The repubs need to beat him and the other dems over the head with this as much as possible for the 2010 and 2012 elections. They will no doubt be called racists , this being the default position that libs take when they have no sensible argument. So be it.
CU - C'mon man - how has President Obama gone against the will of the people? President Obama certainly did NOT appoint this judge; President Obama didn't select this judge whenthe suit was filed.
The fact of the matter is that as American Citizens, we have rights and the judiciary is upholding those rights. The AZ law was badly written, no doubt, so why is it President Obama's fault when an independent Judiciary issues and injunction against a badly written law that MAY be unconstitutional?
Are we NOT a nation of laws? So we are to USURP the law NOW because you are not happy about the outcome of this one?
Chuck, this is your argument? You can do better than that.
Is the will of the American people to defy the constitution? I don't think the White House had a choice when came to fighting this in court. The President is sworn to protect the constitution. If you phrased the question, "Is the AZ law a good thing even if it defies the constitution?" most people would say no.
Man isn't it hilarious that judge Susan Bolton who made this great ruling was appointed by Bill Clinton upon the recommendation of arizona's repugnant one senator John Kyller Kyl! I bet that Kyller Kyl thought since she was his pick she'd vote for arizona's racist profiling law, bet he's the most surprised person in the country. Ha Ha facist racist losers but justice has prevailed! Bet the Tory Traitor dopes of nope start talking about secession again.
Air-Wreck, yesterday you were overjoyed at the leak of thousands of classified documents that was done to undermine the war on Islamofacism and will likely lead to the death of Americans. YOU are the traitor. Don't ever forget it.
dude ... I think you forgot to take your meds.
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Pearce's "temporary roadblock" is gonna be a couple of YEARS!! Hopefully, there'll be comprehensive immigration reform by then. That'll require Republicans to say "yes" to something, though.
"comprehensive immigration reform"...aka...amnesty. What you really want is a new underclass of citizens to feed your victicrat bullcrap to so you can dupe them into voting Dem.
C'mon CU:
Not necessarily agreeing that amnesty should be awarded to all illegal immigrants in the country but please tell us how you intend to round up 20+ million illegal immigrants that are spread throughout every State in this nation, detain them for a time and then ship each and everyone of them out of the country. I really would like to hear the details from someone as to how they expect to be able to do that.
Who said anything about amnesty? And don't tell me the REPUBLICANS don't want these votes, either! Where do you think we've got all this money for prisons! We spend more on prisons than education now, forchrissakes!
By the way, deportations under this adminstration are UP!
The Repubs do Not want immigration reform, all of their Corporate bosses happen to enjoy the slave labor that they get from them, being able to pay 1/2 to 1/4 of the minimum wage makes for heavy profits don't ya know?? Thus the Repubs keep blocking any attempt at real immigration reform and then scream that the Dems are doing nothing to stop them at the borders. What did BUSH do to stop illegal immigration...that is right, NOTHING!
Republicans = I love Reagan. Reagan = Amnesty. Therefore, Republicans = I love Amnesty.
B Honest - I agree with your sentiments about the republicans not doing anything, but to be fair Bush did try to do something.
Against the wishes of many in his party he pushed for a temporary guest worker program. Now in my opinion it wasn't true reform because it allowed big business to continue to pay people at practically slave wages and didn't address immigration reform as I would like. It was at best a bare bone attempt at solving one part of immigration reform.
I'm biting my lip here, never have agreed on anything Bush did but on this he tried; once McCain Kennedy bill was drafted he accepted it and supported it. It was the Republican house and senate, even some who originally supported or wrote it like McCain that backtracked and wilted and refused to vote for it.
Whats needed is more legal immigration to be allowed, heavy fines for companies that knowingly hire them as cheap labor along with additional immigration border patrol enforcement. Can't just do enforcement.
I agree with CA you can't physically or financially deport millions of people, therefore put them at the back of the line, have them pay a fine and allow them to start on a legalization process.
Hey, Charles, you obviously didn't cut many of you logic 101 classes, did you?
It was a no brainier. The Constitution sets forth that it's the Federal Governments right to set immigration law, not States. I know, it's Obama's fault that he hasn't created new immigration law. Give him a chance. Don't you think he already has enough on his plate? And when he does get to immigration reform, will you GOP party of No help suppot him? I doubt it. If this suit hadn't been filled, every State in the Union would have a different immigration law. I'd need 50 different passports to travel. And what did your hero Bush do in his 8 years in office? NOTHING.
I think Bolton is correct. The Arizona Law "could lead" to the harassment of citizens and legal immigrants. On the other hand those supporting the Arizona Law promise that the new law will not lead to the harassment of citrizens and legal immigrants. I suppose it would depend on how zealous individual police officers pursued enforcement of the law.
I do think there is a lack of honesty and truth regarding this issue. As this law originated out of people's anger and frustration with the numbers crossing the border illegally into the U.S. from Mexico, and fear of a spillover of the crime and drug wars increasing around these same border towns, those supporting the law want Hispanics to show proof they have the legal right and authority to be in the U.S. The law therefore is directed towards Hispanics. Why not just come out and tell it like it is.
On the other side, those who do not support this law also know that there is a major problem with illegal immigration from Mexico and that the situation regarding crime and drug wars just across the border is a serious issue. And although disagreeing with the law and fighting against the same because they feel it is meant to profile or harass a certain race of people, they too have to be honest and up-front with the fact that yes, it is a certain race of people that make up the vast majority of illegal immigrants coming across the border, and something needs to be done.
Both sides are getting so hung up on this arguement that the law is or is not discriminatory that they are losing sight of the real issue. How to effectively stop illegal immigration along the border.
CA - I too think that Judge Bolton was correct in her injunction. I also think that your assessment is correct as well. The major problem is crime (maily drug wars) and illegal immigration. However, the AZ does not have power - nor the right - to 'ignore' the tenets of the Constitution so they can solve their problem.
The proponents of the law are complaining that 'illegal is illegal, and they broke the law'; it is an argument that I can support. However, when we have to give up our rights as Americans to combat that problem, then it SHOULD raise a red flag. It did with me. It is amazing to me that many people are so willing to trade their rights as Americans for 'security', whatever that is. There is no 'security' because the root of the problem has not been addressed. Until the root cause has been addressed, then there will ALWAYS be a problem.
I see that Russell Pence has decided he will fight; that's his right as an American citizen and a legislator. I have read that Russell decided to pen this law when his son, an AZ deputy, got shot by an illegal immigrant. I can sympathise with Russell, as no one wants to see their children shot, no matter what the reason is. However, by not channeling that anger and frustration into something POSITIVE, he has lost a very important opportunity to make that horrific act by an illegal immigrant REALLY resonate with the American people. I think that even the most liberal among us would have agreed with Russell of he did not put this out with a partisan lens.
So, this is not over. People are armingthemselves to the teeth and are threatening President Obama, and NOT even looking at the root cause of the problem (which are employers that attract illegal immigrants and the insatiable appetite for Mexican drugs). Everyone is all in a tizzy because they feel that they are being invaded by Mexico.
The funny thing is that when a REAL despot comes to power - using the same 'laws' that strips Americans of their rights, as this law proports, as a catalyst for their power - these SAME people will welcome him/her with open arms. When the jig is up, and the despot shows his real face, then it will be too late.
Let's hope that with this ruling, cooler heads prevail. let's hope that the American citizen is not stupid enough to give away the keys of their country because they were 'afraid for their safety'.
Pietro - I agree with you the root problem needs to be adressed. Regarding your comment about American's giving away their rights; Unfortunately we already know the answer to that. Maybe not the majority but a great number of Americans were willing and still are willing to give up a lot of their rights because they were 'afraid for their safety.' Due to the 'War on Fear' I mean the 'War on Terror'
I know I'm not breaking any news to you but after 911, Congress pushed through the Patriot Act. Many seemed ok with Bush's warrantless wire tapping program and ignoring of the FISA - foreign intelligence survelliance act. Many people didn't seem concerned that citizens could be wire tapped or monitored based on 3rd party associations.
On your other sentiment, I also hope that cooler heads prevail and the root problem is addressed.
I'm a legal American citizen and I must show my ID when:
1. Pulled over by the police.
2. Making purchases on my department store credit card.
3. When I show up for a doctor's appointment.
4. When filling out a credit card or loan application.
5. When applying for or renewing a driver's license or passport.
6. When applying for any kind of insurance.
7. When filling out college applications.
8. When donating blood.
9. When obtaining certain prescription drugs.
10. When making some debit purchases, especially if I'm out of state.
11. When collecting a boarding pass for airline or train travel.
I'm sure there are more instances, but the point is that we citizens of the USA are required to prove who we are nearly every day!
Why should people in this country illegally, be exempt!!!!!
Why shouldn't we guard our borders as closely as every other country in the world does?
Go ARIZONA !!!
Mongo Vegas:
Are you routinely stopped by a couple burly cops as you walk down the street where they proceeed to ask you what you are doing in the area and for you to produce your ID or papers proving you are a citizen or legal immigrant? Didn't think so.
Actually, Mongo, you do not NEED to show any ID at all if you do not want to. You show ID because that is the condition to get things you want. As far as driving a car is concerned, you do NOT have to show your driver's license to ANYONE except a Police officer who asks for it when you are pulled over, and the only reason you HAVE to do so is because that was the condition of getting the license in the first place.
What you are notgetting is that you do NOT have to do ANYTHING. If you want smokes, and do not want to show your ID, you do not get the smokes. It is NOT against the law to NOT show your ID.
I am very surpised that you are ignorant of your rights as an American Citizen. We ARE the FREEST country in the WORLD because we have the freedom to do what we choose to. If you CHOOSE to show your ID to get/do the stuff you outlined above, then great. If you choose NOT to show ID, you don't get the things you outlined, and that is great too.
What is NOT acceptable is someone MAKING me show ID when I am a citizen of this country. I sincerely hope you understand the difference.
Mongo, because renewing a passport is the ONLY thing on the list that requires citizenship. The rest can be done by an illegal. Furthermore, the pharmacist, teacher, airline clerk etc, does not work for the INS. A driver's license is not proof of citizenship, and I don't know about you, but I do not carry my passport and birth certificate at all times.
You forget we have a problem here!
Doing nothing (like the Federal Govt chooses) doesn't help.
We have laws in place - Enforce Them!
People are losing their lives ..... doesn't anyone care. When is the Federal Government going to start doing their job?
It seems Suzen they would rather do battle in a court room over a law rather than put their heads together to confront and come up with ideas on how to battle the illegal border crossings and the increasing drug wars in the area. The Arizona Law might result in the capture and deportation of more illegal immigrants but after being deported they will come right back unless the larger issues are confronted regarding border security and enforcing the current laws regarding the employment of illegal immigrants.
What part of the word illegal do you not understand? We are a Nation of laws that must be followed as to avoid total chaos. My family followed all immigration laws and we are here legally after a long wait. There is no convenient rationalization that should be used to allow people to circumvent our nations laws. Secure the borders, fine and jail employers and landlords, roundup illegals and deport them, regardless of cost. End this national nightmare once and for all.
Dahly - what part of being a CITIZEN do YOU not understand? Ifyou are here legally after a long wait, then you, of all people, should know what RIGHTS and PRIVILEDGES that American Citizens have. Yes, we are a nation of laws, and if people are circumventing those laws, we need to find out WHY and shut them down. The mere fact that we haven't shut down the ones who are circumventing the law means we are not getting to the root of the problem.
You CANNOT -CANNOT - pick and choose which laws you want to follow though. You CAN get the laws changed through legislation.
As a naturalised citizen, you should KNOW that you have rights. You went through the process for a REASON - so you can have FREEDOM to live your life as you choose. If you went through all of that trouble to become an American Citizens and then let two bit legislators in AZ take those rights away from you in the name of 'security', then you deserve what you get. I for one am NOT giving up my rights without a fight.
"roundup illegals and deport them, regardless of cost."
Before action is taken we must wiegh the costs and benefits. If it sent us into a 20 year depression with 40% plus unemployment would it still be worth it to you? That may be extreme but the point is we should understand the impacts before taking any action.
The borders must be closed, 100%. People here illegally need to be removed, period. Employers/landlords should be punished severely. We followed the rules and indeed waited a long time to gain legal entrance. We do not sympathize with law breakers and do not mind the inconvenience of showing our papers since that will help to remove those here illegally. And I don't care if it's been a week or thirty years either.
Dahly - it is obvious that you have learned NOTHING from your experience becoming a citizen ofthis country.
As a CITIZEN, you DO NOT HAVE TO SHOW PAPERS for ANY reason. Now the mere fact that you CHOOSE to show your papers is on you. Even if you DID show your papers, will it mean that the illegal immigrant will NOT be here in this country?
As a CITIZEN, you have rights. You also have a RESPONSIBILITY to PROTECT those rights because if you don't, YOU could be the next target of someone - some politician - who may not want Naturalised Citizens in THEIR America. YOU, as a naturalised citizen, could be the next class of people deemed 'illegal' because you were not born here.
What recourse do you have then?
My point is this - don't be so willing to 'fall in line' and 'do what they say'. Ask questions. Ask WHY is that necessary? Try not to succumb to fear-mongering. KNOW what your rights are. Challenge the 'powers that be' to explain WHY 'showing papers' is necessary.
Illegal immigrants have no power, no say. They are being picked on by the AZ legislature to further their political goals. They got everyone all worked up about illegal immigrants - so much so that NO ONE is talking about the budget deficit. The Governor had to SUE the the Republican legislature to geta budget. So what happened to that?
It seems that everyone is falling for the distraction. Gov. Brewer is up for re-election this year. After the re-election, and if she wins, will the immigration problem go away - magically?
Dahly, I respect your opinion, and Iam really not trying to bash you or your post. I am trying to point out that we are all to willing to give things up without knowing WHY we are giving them up.
Dahly - thanks for your post.
The two bit legislators in AZ are NOT taking any of your rights if you are a naturalized citizen who came to this country legally. Since you did things the proper way, doesn't it anger you when people sneak in and your tax dollars support them? Do you think they should be given amnesty and citizenship because they commited an illegal act? I just don't get it.
My family followed the rules and we are still in the process. It's a lot of work and it is very frustrating that others are getting here illegally. Especially when we have a close family member stuck in Europe that doesn't have the convenience of being able to run across the desert to join her family.
That doesn't mean I'm going to through away pragmatism to take a principled stand. You have to weigh the costs and the benefits instead of making an emotional decision. The economic cost of simply deporting all illegals would be catastrophic and not worth it.
I like the idea of massive fines and long term wage garnishments if the fines can't be paid up front.
To be an illegal immigrant is already a Federal crime. All Arizona did was make it a state crime as well. They will not be arresting anyone on a Federal crime - possibly forwarding all info to the proper authorities but the states have the right to make and enforce their own laws as long as the laws are not CONTRARY to the Federal law - then Fed trumps state.
I want to get past all the legal arguments and ask a serious question here. Let's just pretend the administration gets it's comprehensive immigration reform, and it passes both houses and is signed into law. All people who are here are processed in whatever manner that is that law. Now everyone is now legal.
Here's my question: What then? Do you mean to tell me that NO one will still cross the border? At that point in time, all people should be caught and deported if crossing illegally, right?
My point is that comprehensive reform is never going to put a perfect and permanent fix on this problem and the government will still need to secure the border. So with that in mind, why are they refusing to shut down the border except at the normal check points. It is now their responsibility to do that now and they just wont do it. They CAN do it, it was done with quite certainty right after 9/11. the borders were shut tight and even the drug trafficing came to a screeching halt. I just don't get it.
Daryn:
Comprehensive Immigration Reform has to be just what it says, comprehensive. And that means in addition to determining what to do with the illegals already here at the same time and in the same Reform Bill, passing legilsation that would attend to the border security issues. Comprehensive means all issues impacting illegal immigration will have to be included in the Bill.
But securing the border is ALREADY the law. No matter what reform is passed, the border will still have to be secured, what makes you think the administration will then tackle that issue?
Daryn,
if you had been paying attention you would know that arrests and deportations have INCREASED under Obama and are set to increase yet again. He has been sending more Federal troops to secure the borders already, like the 6k reservists that have been authorized in AZ alone, however, Brewer has only seen fit to send less than 1/4 of them. It is not President Obama that is slacking, look to the states along the border who have not been doing enough because they get a lot of money from the businesses that profit from using the too cheap labor that the immigrants provide. Stop the jobs and they will stop coming, the Southern border is only one of the ways that they enter, so sending enough manpower to totally close it won't do the job either. You need to actually study the situation a little better and get ALL the facts!
It's not the states responsibility to stop the employers, it's the feds, I know, I'm an employer. i DO KNOW THE FACTS. You are not answering the question, what about after?? the border will still have to be SHUT DOWN, or there is no use passing more laws. We already have laws against comming across the border, they are not enforced, if they were, you would not have to deport anyone. I'm in full agreement with you, punish the employers and the landlords who rent to illeagals, but they will still be coming across the border no matter what laws you pass. BTW, the feds just won the right to take care of immigration all by themselves. It is a FEDRAL I-9 form that is filled out for employment not a state form. It is the FEDS responsibility and they have won that right in court. Jan Brewer just wanted to help out
12 million plus illegals (millions of anchor kids too) and 65% plus of citizens want them out and the borders secured. Why should a relative handful of illegal enablers stop us from legally removing them from our country? Secure the borders, fine/jail employers and landlords and deport all illegals, period.
Dahly - it seems like you have just answered your own question. Go after the enablers, stop them from 'enabling', and you will have your result, correct?
Actually, the enablers are AMERICANS.
Period.
I'd have the US Rangers, 3rd Army, remove forcibly all illegals. The Mexican governments is known to SHOOT those crossing their southern border, no questions asked.
It is estimated that 10,000 illegals enter every day. Most just want to live a better life. I can understand that. However, you cannot break the law just because you want a better life. Thieves steal from others to gain money to live a better life.
The problem becomes.. what do you do about it. It is obvious that the Federal Government refuses to protect the border for a variety of reasons. The reasons do not concern me, their refusal to do their job, does. Again... what should be done about it.
Going in front of a Federal judge to question Federal ineptitude is a waste of time. Sort of like going to IRS court thinking you are going to get a fair shake with an IRS problem. It will not happen. Why Arizona showed up for the court date is simply amusing. So, going in front of a Federal lackey judge in this matter is a waste of time. I knew how this federal judge would rule before they walked in the building.
So, there are only two ways of handling this.
1) Mobilize the border citizens, arm them, and enforce the border themselves. I am not a big fan of this. Shooting them as they climb the fence in a have gun will travel manner, does nothing but make us as bad as Mexico. Not in favor of this idea.
2) Secede. If the Union refuses to protect it's members, and forbid them to protect themselves... the Union must be dissolved. Arizona should get together with other states that are suffering from problems either created by the Union or incompetence by the Union, and secede.
I see no other alternative. Ten thousand a day invade this country. Yes, I chose the word INVADE. These people are economic soldiers taking jobs in a country with already high unemployment. These economic soldiers are aided by the Mexican government. The Mexican government had published pamphlets teaching their citizens how to invade the United States.
These economic soldiers are taking a terrible toll on our school, medical, and court systems. I am not trying to be the bad guy here... but it is obvious that these invaders are taking our kindness for weakness. If the US government continues to do nothing... then we are a conquered people if we, as citizens, do nothing.
W Sannar - you forgot option #3 - go after and prosecute the AMERICAN companies that HIRE illegal immigrants. If we did that, options #1 and #2 would NOT be necessary. If there is no incentive to come, then there is no problem, correct? the interesting thing is that this can be enforced at the LOCAL/STATE level - all WITHOUT Government intervention. In other words, you can do what you want and still achiveve the same result.
Its funny how we go from one extreme to the other without looking at the OBVIOUS solution staring us in the face.
The fact of the matter is that SOMETHING is attacting the 'hordes' of people to come across the border - kinda like bees to nectar. If there is no nectar, then there are no bees...
Pietro, Forget your excuses and rid our country of illegals. Illegals are here from all over the world; and they must be caught and thrown out, permanently. The US is broke. 41 cents of every dollar spent is borrowed. Only 53% of legal wage earners even pay federal income tax and it will get worse as the Obama administration continues. The US can not afford not to remove the illegals and secure our border and fine/jail employers and landlords. Washington, both parties, don't have the gonads to do what needs to be done. That's the biggest problem!
Pietro... first of all, let me thank you. Being on an MSNBC site, I was expecting a long volley of people calling me a racist. It is a pleasure to actually have a dialog.
You are very correct. Cracking down on these business's abusing.. Yes, I used the word ABUSE, these people. Anytime you pay a person less than a living wage for a hard days work is abuse. That is another reason why this invasion must stop.
It may lessen the problem, but it will not stop it. Illegal business's will always crop up. Using the manpower to continually scour the US would be like the war in the middle east, or the war on drugs. You will never win. It is far easier to secure a line on a map than scour the countryside. It seems that every other country on the planet can do it.. but we cannot.
It would be easier to swallow if we did not have the resources... but we do. It is a simple matter of the Government not wanting to. That is why I am requesting a seccesion. It is time for the citizens of the United States to stand up the the tyranny of the Federal Government, and demand that each state be allowed to govern themselves.
If we allow that, alot of problems would slowly go away. Pick a problem...
Gay Marriage. Each state should be allowed the right to vote.
War on drugs...
Bad public schools
If each state has the right to govern themselves the problems would be far easier to manage. It is easier to get a sitting govenor or a local school board member out.. then the President or a NEA board member.
If you are a conservative... and there is no support for your views in liberal California... move to a conservative state. And vice versa. It is alot better to move to another state.. than move to another country.
W Sannar - thank you for being so cordial. We may not agree, but I believe that we don't have to be disagreeable.
I can see that we do NOT agree completely in this case.
I think that seccession is a bit harsh. I think that ALL options are to be explored/used before that ultimate option of seccession is used. I will agree with you that not all options have been explored or even enacted.
If seccession is the ultimate solution, then I SINCERELY hope that the people who want to succeed from the union have thought long and hard about this BEFORE it is done. If you have had enough of this Government, then you have to form your own government, and guess what - you will be having this conversation with others who may want to settle in YOUR country/city-state.
You will DEFINITELY be spending a LOT more money on defense and the cost of being a 'soverign state'.
From what I am seeing, governing is really difficult. It is easy when you are on the outside looking in, but when YOU are 'the man', things change.
Pietro-
If the Federal Government allowed each state to govern themselves, seccesion would not be necessary, nor desireable. We are the United States... each state individual, but united in common causes. We have ceaced being that, and we are all becoming serfs of the federal government.
The Federal Government has 3 jobs... ONLY 3.
1) Provide for the common defense. First word PROVIDE!!! The boarders are the lines of defense.
2) Insure domestic tranquility. First word INSURE!! Stop seccesions, riots assist local law enforement.
3) Promote health and welfare. First word PROMOTE!! Not insure... not provide. Promote!! That means, hey fatboy.. stop eating McDonalds every day. Get off the couch and get some exercise, but it is your life. You have the freedom to die at 41 years old of a heart attack if you so choose.
The Federal Government is doing things it should not be.. and not doing things it should. As a result, it is screwing up everything. Allowing this invasion by the Feds violates number 1. Mandating healthcare violates number 3. Not going thru with the procecutions of the new black panthers violates number 2.
The ineptitude of the Feds goes farther that just boarder. I do not like the idea of seccesion either. But I darn sure do not like the power grab the government has been doing the last 20 or so years. The government does not want citizens... they want peasants. I am no ones peasant.
The illegal alien annexation is like "Ripley's believe it or not?" You either trust the US government who persistently voices lies or uses reverse psychology on the public. The ultra-wing of the Liberal press which has manifested itself as the Los Angeles Times, The New York Times or the incarnate Huffington Post and others that release a torrent of media verbal feces, which a lot of us are inclined to actually believe, as their own hypocrites do. Personally, I would boycott all anti-American rags, but I don’t live in those illegal alien “Sanctuary Cities. “ More moderate Conservative (Not Republicans or Democrats tainted with Liberal philosophies) who takes the time to investigate the facts and not the "Politically Correct" spew that many of us have been indoctrinated with? To begin--how many foreign nationals have settled illegally in Arizona and America?
For the last ten years the same figure has appeared in heavily oriented Liberal progressive newspapers of around 10 to 11 million? And if you have been programmed enough you give it credence, you will believe it? But that was a generation ago and despairing, penurious foreign nationals still keep on coming, yet some of us trust it as accurate? A more acceptable number is around 18 million and up, according to NumbersUSA. Web-site. There are US Border Patrol administrators who dare to speak-up as long as they remain anonymous, documented that out of ten illegal entrants that cross, only--ONE--is caught. The fact is that hundreds of thousands return, even after the judge has deported them incessantly; even after they have left by their own recognizance. THIS IS WHY WE SHOULD DEMAND THAT ILLEGAL ENTRY TO OUR COUNTRY BECOMES A FELONY, WITH FIRST OFFENSE CARRYING A TERM OF FIVE YEARS?
The expenditure message of the Liberal newspapers and equally responsible the anti- American universities professors and places of learning, where, the roots of extremism in accumulated lies and rhetoric. The hard academic left has poisoned the moderate editorial ideology, to destroy the roots of our culture and history and interpretation of the US Constitution. The federal judge, whose decision on Arizona's policing law, is full of irregularities, as she didn't interpret the law on several points? As a Bill Clinton appointee Judge Bolton likely deliberated her rulings from the bench, not according to constitution? The same with the Radical Ninth District court in San Francisco which is a laughable Mickey Mouse court of Liberal perception. Eventually the law from Arizona will land in the Supreme Court of final jurisprudence. Always we hear that illegal immigration is a great gain for our economy, but the Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR) released a negative picture of costs.
That the illegal alien household expenditure on just the federal level costs, Hospital, education and incarceration, to the uninformed taxpayers is 113 Billion dollars annually, plus another $60 billion in money transfers to foreign countries in remittances for families left behind. Pro-sovereignty groups are under constant attack from the liberal shadow government, who has become a silent part of the open border syndicates, lobbyists and the Council of Foreign Relations. First thing that Americans must do is keep up a voice barrage on Democrats and Republicans for a-- PERMANENT E-VERIFY. This would have now been the law of the land, if Sen. Harry Reid (D-NV) hadn't intervened in the Senate chamber. He should be the first removed from office, as he and cohorts of Liberal-Dems is a strong representative to force through another economic damaging Billion dollar--AMNESTY. Another Amnesty would give illegal alien workers. Access to our Social Security and devastate taxpayer’s pensions, especially to senior citizens who have worked all their lives. An agreement the Bush administration was reached with Mexico on Social Security benefits that would allow illegal aliens granted amnesty in the future to claim credit for the time they worked illegally.
We must train the politicians already in Washington, that the Arizona law represents the American people’s defense, against 30 years of unequivocal failure to seal the border and deportation. That even now the fence not completed, and does not represent the original specifications of two fences stretched 1800 miles from the Pacific to Gulf of Mexico. Secretly--behind closed doors, the Democratic leadership in the 2006 Senate Omnibus Law Sen. Kay Baily Hutchinson, sponsored by Sen. John Cornyn, (R-TX) attacked a major provisions of a second independent 15 foot chain-link fence that was eliminated. With a militarize border carrying automatic weapons the Arizona's law would never have been signed by Governor Brewer? The gang slime and cesspool of criminals would never have materialized in such numbers in border cities, as double parallel fences policed by 6000 permanent federal troops and US Border patrol as Mexico does with Guatemala, would have stopped the carnage in the border region.
What Obama hopes to do with unarmed military in small numbers sitting at desk, is amazingly stupid and misguided as any hopes of stopping the potential deaths is political suicide; a serious danger to National Security. Why defend foreign nations with soldiers and money, when our government for decades refuses to defend this country? The tea Party and millions of well-informed Americans see that this is a way to appease the corrupt authorities in Mexico. Every US patriotic citizen and legal resident must demand from their confused lawmakers at state and federal level in demanding E-Verify permanently. This will gradually remove illegal aliens by auditing workplaces (old and new workers--temporarily or permanent jobs) and bring to justice employers who are flouting the law and put them in prison. WE AS THE VOTERS OF AMERICA CAN DO THIS, RIDDING OURSELVES OF SENATORS LIKE REID, McCAIN, PELOSI, SCHUMER, GRAHAM, FEINSTEIN PUSHING FOR AMNESTY AND THE DREAM ACT. WHAT WE SHOULD DEMAND FROM THE LEGISLATORS IS IMMEDIATE REVITALIZATION OF THE “SAVE ACT & CLEAR ACT.” ALL INCUMBENTS NEED TO JOIN THE JOBLESS. FIND FACTS AT NUMBERSUSA & GOVERNMENT CORRUPTION AT JUDICIAL WATCH. Bombard the Washington switchboard at 202-224-3121