Obama urges passage of campaign disclosure bill

AP


President Obama took to the Rose Garden today to urge Senate passage of a bill that would require disclosure of corporate spending in any efforts to influence federal political campaigns.

The vote is expected Tuesday, but -- like everything else in the Senate -- 60 votes would be needed to move the legislation forward. And chances appear slim.

The House has already passed a version of the DISCLOSE Act, Democrats' answer to the Supreme Court's Citizens United decision, which allows corporations and unions to directly spend money on TV ads, mailings, and other political activity on behalf of or against candidates.

"Because of the Supreme Court's decision earlier this year in the Citizens United case, big corporations -- even foreign-controlled ones -- are now allowed to spend unlimited amounts of money on American elections. They can buy millions of dollars worth of TV ads. And worst of all, they don't even have to reveal who's actually paying for the ads," Obama told reporters. "Instead, they can hide behind a name like 'Citizens for a Better Future' even if the more accurate name would be 'Companies for Weaker Oversight.'"

The president said such "shadow groups" were amassing tens of millions of dollars to influence the midterm elections, which would give special interests a huge amount of influence over politicians running for office. The DISCLOSE Act would require corporate political advertisers to reveal who is funding their activities and would restrict foreign corporations from spending money to influence American elections. Like the House bill, the Senate bill provides an exemption to these requirements for large interest groups such as the National Rifle Association, the Sierra Club, the Humane Society and the AARP.

The president said the requirements in the DISCLOSE Act should be "a matter of common sense" and not a partisan issue. He went on to paint Republicans who oppose the bill as standing in the way of progress -- a common administration theme this campaign season.

"The Republican leadership in the Senate is once again using every tactic and every maneuver they can to prevent the DISCLOSE Act from even coming up for an up-or-down vote, just like they did with unemployment insurance for Americans who'd lost their jobs in this recession, just like they're doing by blocking tax credits and lending assistance for small business owners," he said. "On issue after issue, we are trying to move America forward. And they keep on trying to take us back."

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And worst of all, they don't even have to reveal who's actually paying for the ads," Obama told reporters. "Instead, they can hide behind a name like 'Citizens for a Better Future' even if the more accurate name would be 'Companies for Weaker Oversight.'"

Now thats Funny, I don't care who you are !

  • 7 votes
Reply#1 - Mon Jul 26, 2010 4:14 PM EDT

It sure is!

  • 3 votes
#1.1 - Mon Jul 26, 2010 4:15 PM EDT

Yeah, I wonder who wrote it for him. I think they should disclose that.

  • 6 votes
#1.2 - Mon Jul 26, 2010 4:35 PM EDT

Hilarious and accurate as well! Once again the GOP stands on the side of the powerful against the rest of it, and the Democrats are missing a huge opportunity if they don't remind us of that again and again and again.

  • 6 votes
#1.3 - Mon Jul 26, 2010 5:11 PM EDT

Rick,

Good pint and they do not even have to be Americans. Foreign companies can funnel a lot of money to this election as well as citizens.

  • 4 votes
#1.4 - Mon Jul 26, 2010 5:28 PM EDT

If honesty prevailed, we would see that the Democrats are just trying to maintain their HUGE contribution advantge from unions, which give hundreds of $millions more than corporations - virtually all of which goes to Democrats.

PS - Foreign generated money is still illegal to use in American elections - something you won't hear from the Democrats.

  • 2 votes
#1.5 - Mon Jul 26, 2010 7:26 PM EDT

The Repubs will vote against it because their corporate masters have told them be against it. They will of course rail against Unions putting money into a race and have people like ITM and Joanne make their snarky remarks because its a Union doing something that the Corporations will and have been doing all of along. If the Dems had any spine, and thats a big IF, this could easily be a campaign winner for them. I'm just curious how they will respond when the Saudi's have to be accountable.

  • 3 votes
#1.6 - Mon Jul 26, 2010 7:30 PM EDT

Obama is the least transparent president ever. I don't see why he has a problem with this or why he wants the legislation to pass EXCEPT to stiffle those who want less government while giving advantage to unions that want bigger government.

  • 4 votes
#1.7 - Mon Jul 26, 2010 9:48 PM EDT

Bob, does what you wrote make any sense even to you?

  • 1 vote
#1.8 - Tue Jul 27, 2010 6:17 AM EDT

Vulcan One

it probably doesn't just more of the same Repub blather about anything but what matters. Our Repub friends are afraid of transparency because when you shine a light, the cockroaches scamper. And what roaches do you think will come out if they had to disclose who paying for their ads. Of course the same applies to the Dems as well.

As for our Repub friends who keep bringing up Obama's money from BP, he took no PAC money, small donors, you know the little people. And Bob Randall, as for transparency, why don't you ask the same about the Bush Administration? How about Darth Cheney's energy meeting? How about domestic spying on the public w/ warrantless wiretaps, cherrypicking intelligence to get us into an unnecessary war of convenience and having no exit strategy. How about this one Bob, "the Iraqis will treat us like liberators" remember that one. How much American blood is on the Lil Shrub and Darth Cheney's hands? Oh one more, waterboarding, a war-crime. I think because they planned this, they should be brought up on War crimes and tried in the Hague

  • 2 votes
#1.9 - Tue Jul 27, 2010 5:33 PM EDT
Reply

I find it hard to believe republicans would be against this legislation but they'll keep saying NO. Another piece of legislation that most Americans probably support, transparency in campaigning yet it will be a struggle to get 60 votes to end the debate. Makes me ask what is the point of majority rule when the majority cannot rule. it is time to change the rules.

  • 10 votes
Reply#2 - Mon Jul 26, 2010 4:15 PM EDT

This is a no-brainer. So it's no surprise why the Repubs would oppose such legislation.

What American, regardless of political affiliation, would prefer to have their voice drowned out by corporate interests? I'm not talking about teabaggers here, since their credibility is nil.

  • 7 votes
Reply#3 - Mon Jul 26, 2010 4:16 PM EDT

Tim Kaine, Chairman:

"When President Obama promised to bring change to Washington, we made a choice. We decided to build a new Democratic Party that, more than ever, was focused on organizing and guided by the support of millions of Americans from across the country.

We actively chose to take on the special interests and understood that there would be consequences for that decision -- now, we're seeing that bear out. Reporters are filing stories about how financial reform is driving Wall Street to cut big checks to the GOP.

I guess the President's plan to rein in the big banks struck a nerve.

Republicans are celebrating that fact -- even bragging about it on Twitter. Conservative 527s are pledging to commit $200 million to the 2010 election. With the corporate cash flowing in, they think they have a real edge in the fall. But we have something the Republicans don't -- supporters like you.
We made a choice when we decided to change Washington; now you have a choice to make with this election. You can watch the Republicans as they raise every special-interest dollar they can find, or you can match the level of commitment shown by the conservatives.

The consequences of this election are huge, and the Republicans understand that. They've begun convening weekly meetings with GOP lawmakers and top conservative lobbyists. They're pledging to raise hundreds of millions to win back Congress. And Wall Street, big oil, and the insurance companies are ready to do what it takes to help them win.

We knew this was coming -- it was the risk we took when we decided to deliver change.

But the fight is far from over. It doesn't matter how many lobbyists support the GOP -- the Democratic Party has chosen to go a different direction. The 2010 election is an opportunity to prove that point. If you stand with us, we'll show the GOP that there are consequences for their decisions, too."

  • 11 votes
Reply#4 - Mon Jul 26, 2010 4:18 PM EDT

All the more reason for us 'small' people to donate what we can to the Democrats... it doesn't necessarily need to be the DNC... just send $10 - $25 to which ever candidate you support!

Then candidate Obama said change starts from the bottom up and let's not lose sight of that!

We did it in 2008 and we can do it again! YES WE CAN!

  • 9 votes
#4.1 - Mon Jul 26, 2010 4:36 PM EDT

Fired up, ready to go!

Republicans have been saying corporations aren't hiring because of uncertainty. By that, they mean corporations want no regulations and aren't happy about getting some much needed ones.

Wonder how these companies can lay off people for financial reasons, not hire people for financial reasons yet have millions to blow on campaign ads.

I just caught the ADA article from earlier, what a great day in Congress and what better way to celebrate 20 years of ADA than to have a disabled person preside. Enjoyed your comments especially those talking about their own family working to help them.

  • 8 votes
#4.2 - Mon Jul 26, 2010 5:00 PM EDT

Wow. You must think the average American is pretty dumb. So we're supposed to believe the sactimonious President who: 1) broke his promise to accept public funding for his campaign; 2) became the first Presidential candidate to choose to fund his campaign entirely from donors, including corporations, unions, PACs and associations; 3) raised over $1 billion from these donors, and 4) never aired on his ads who his biggest contributors were. Example 198,704,202 of "do as I say, not as I do", or better yet, I am the government , and I know better.

  • 8 votes
#4.3 - Mon Jul 26, 2010 5:26 PM EDT

Pat, Boston:

Great post. Thank you. Unfortunately money can buy a lot of votes. As Feisty said if every concerned citizen gave a few dollars each we could match them and keep or integrity as well. I am a little worried that nobody is saying much about the foreign monies that may come in as well. We as Americans need to know who these people are so we can make intelligent decisions. Of course no matter what President Obama wants the republicans are still going to say no. They were told to not pass any bills until after the elections. I bet they don't stop there unless they take over the Senate and House.

  • 6 votes
#4.4 - Mon Jul 26, 2010 5:36 PM EDT

Wall street cuts big checks to the dems as much as anyone.

Of the 5 richest members in congress only one is a republican. The left seems oblivious to that fact.

CRP says California Republican Rep. Darrell Issa is the richest lawmaker on Capitol Hill, with a net worth estimated at about $251 million. Next in line: Rep. Jane Harman (D-Calif.), worth about $244.7 million; Sen. Herb Kohl (D-Wis.), worth about $214.5 million; Sen. Mark Warner (D-Va.), worth about $209.7 million; and Sen. John Kerry (D-Mass.), worth about $208.8 million.

All told, at least seven lawmakers have net worths greater than $100 million, according to the Center’s 2008 figures.

“Many Americans probably have a sense that members of Congress aren’t hurting, even if their government salary alone is in the six figures, much more than most Americans make,” said CRP spokesman Dave Levinthal. “What we see through these figures is that many of them have riches well beyond that salary, supplemented with securities, stock holdings, property and other investments.”

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1109/29235.html#ixzz0uqO5rlys

Among the top 25 wealthiest legislators – which includes boldface names Nancy Pelosi, Dianne Feinstein and Olympia Snowe – there are 14 Democrats and 11 Republicans, suggesting no clear wealth divisions between party.

http://www.greenchange.org/article.php?id=5201

So the rich on the left want to stiffle the rich on the right, who aren't quite as rich.

Get a clue, nearly half of congress critters are millionaires only thinking of themselves. This legislation only benefits the leftist millionaires - not America.

  • 3 votes
#4.5 - Mon Jul 26, 2010 10:07 PM EDT

8 of the 10 wealthiest congress critters are democrats.

http://www.greenchange.org/article.php?id=5201

Why do you really think they want this legislation? To protect themselves in the millionaires club. Only fools can't see the truth.

  • 1 vote
#4.6 - Mon Jul 26, 2010 10:18 PM EDT

So Bob, you should support the bill then , again your reasoning is skewed! It doesn't matter who gets the money, Do you want big business buying any votes? Do you want foreign companies buying our elections? Stop with the partisan idiocy.

  • 2 votes
#4.7 - Tue Jul 27, 2010 6:23 AM EDT
Reply

The GOP is big corporations BFF and wouldn't do anything to stop them from what they want to do. You can bet your bottom dollar that the response from the republican politicians will be "No, No, Hell No".

  • 2 votes
Reply#5 - Mon Jul 26, 2010 4:27 PM EDT

IF that were tru, then why are 134 of the the 237 millionaires in congress democrats or why are 8 democrats in the top 10? Of course you didn't research it like I did but there is a spread sheet of all of them at http://www.opensecrets.org/pfds/overview.php?type=W&year=2008

Of course you won't bother. Those who blather what they believe is the truth never bother. Just keep supporting those who want you on welfare where they can control you. Exactly what Hitler did and he was against capitalism too. Look it up or give it up.

  • 2 votes
#5.1 - Mon Jul 26, 2010 10:46 PM EDT

Bob again, this is not a partisan issue! It doesn't matter who's the richest. Do you want foreign investment in American campaigns?

  • 1 vote
#5.2 - Tue Jul 27, 2010 6:25 AM EDT
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Pat, what you have just pointed out needs to be in a TV and radio ad in every market in America before the elections. A good time to run them would be mid to late October. This way those corporations and unions can spend, spend, spend and get nowhere because people will be onto them.

I see nothing wrong with disclosing the truth in where campaign funding is coming from. What is fair for companies is fair for unions and whatever other enteties are out there trying to influence elections.

If we, the people are going to take back our country this is how we do it. We make sure we know who we are taking it from. The unions, big corporations and other special interest groups (looking at you AARP). The Republicans say they favor taking our country back, even the teabaggers claim to want to take back the country but how many are going to be for this bill? This should really be a slam dunk and easy to pass but with their handouts from those entities many in Congress aren't likely to bite the hand that feeds their campaign so I won't be surprised to see this die on the vine.

  • 4 votes
Reply#6 - Mon Jul 26, 2010 4:29 PM EDT

The only people for this bill are the leftist millionaires running congress and most of them are democrats.

Don't take my word for it. Open the spread sheet and see for yourself that you are being duped.

http://www.opensecrets.org/pfds/overview.php?type=W&year=2008

  • 1 vote
#6.1 - Mon Jul 26, 2010 10:56 PM EDT

Bob, I would like to call you a name but it would be more than four letters so you probably wouldn't understand it. You only see Left vs Right and it seems that you really don't understand the concept of what's going on. Again, do you want foreign companies buying American election in secret?

  • 2 votes
#6.2 - Tue Jul 27, 2010 6:28 AM EDT

Vulcan One

Give it up, its like talking to your foot w/ Bob or boob. All he sees is that the Dems want this despite that fact they will be outed just like the Repubs. He's been spoon fed this garbage by Rush and his ilk so common sense reasoning won't work. The fact that the Saudis will be pouring massive amounts of cash to persuade people to vote for THEIR candidate of choice doesn't matter. The blinders are on and common sense has been thrown out.

  • 2 votes
#6.3 - Tue Jul 27, 2010 12:52 PM EDT
Reply

Finally, the real reason they abandoned the energy bill.

Actually, it's fine to require disclosure of amounts spent by corporations. It won't stop the money, which is what the Democrats want, and we pretty much already know what corporations spend on politics. And no matter who contributes to Republicans, even if the entity also contributes to Democrats, that the Republican donation will be demonized.

This is some more great legislation by the party that gave you financial reform without touching Freddie, Fannie, or the insurance companies. Three significant contributors to the Obama campaign, I might add. I really would be interested in knowing how much, or at least where I could find out.

When it looks like you're not accomplishing much, or if an election is headed your way, drag out the old ammunition and look like you're doing something. The Democrat constituency demands it.

"The Republicans do it too!" in 5-4-3-2-1 . . .

  • 7 votes
Reply#7 - Mon Jul 26, 2010 4:31 PM EDT

Poor excuse not to go through with some kind of Bill that would include some kind of reporting mechanism for the general public so they can see for themselves who is receiving money from these corporations (and how much) no matter if both Dems and Republicans are recipients don't you think? Then let the public decide what it is they want to decide from such information.

  • 3 votes
#7.1 - Mon Jul 26, 2010 4:37 PM EDT

Richard -

With so many asking for transparency...what is wrong with this? And now is an excellent time to bring it forward.

And on another note....so now energy has been "abandoned" and you're going to criticize the congress for something that wasn't going to happen now anyway...thus a waste of time and money. The Republicans don't want to TOUCH any energy bill...they want the status quo...but you're going to criticize anyway? Geesh....it must be really be hard to remember what side to complain about.

  • 4 votes
#7.2 - Mon Jul 26, 2010 4:40 PM EDT

Richard. For the umpteenth time, Fannie and Freddie are being handled with a separate piece of legislation, that is if the republicans allow it to.

  • 3 votes
#7.3 - Mon Jul 26, 2010 5:02 PM EDT

Richard, you are out of your league!

  • 2 votes
#7.4 - Mon Jul 26, 2010 5:17 PM EDT

Jody, Iowa:

Could you pass that on to John Schoen, Senior Producer for MSNBC? In particular I refer you to his article on MSNBC (my primary source for news) entitled "Sweeping Reform, but not Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae" updated July 15th, 2010 at 3:39:56 pm. edt.

I believe they are considering something regarding Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae to further fund their losses which WOULD require legislation.

Glen, Quahog (sure you aren't Peter from Quahog?):

No way.

  • 4 votes
#7.5 - Mon Jul 26, 2010 5:30 PM EDT

Richard, so what you are saying is that the fiscal republican supermen can not introduce their own additional bills to fix fnma and freddie mac? that sounds like something the republicans wanted to do with healthcare. they wanted it done in pieces. so it was ok then, but not now? really? come on richard. you are trying to have it both ways here. it's called a circular reference.

your comments do not make sense. and you are still out of your leage

  • 2 votes
#7.6 - Mon Jul 26, 2010 5:37 PM EDT

Actually, I didn't say what you say I said. That being said, I think it goes without saying that you continue to say a lot of things that aren't worth saying.

I've decided that you are Chris Griffin.

Peter can actually string together a sentence.

Stewie is evil, but intelligent nevertheless.

Brian is smarter than all of them.

You don't have the cojones to be Lois or Meg.

Yup, pretty much leaves Chris.

No surprise at all that my comments don't make sense to you.

The only thing I feel bad about here is the uneasy feeling that I'm picking on a 14 year old.

  • 5 votes
#7.7 - Mon Jul 26, 2010 6:18 PM EDT

Richard,

crickets....................

  • 2 votes
#7.8 - Mon Jul 26, 2010 6:24 PM EDT

Ah, good to see that you're back in your normal environment.

  • 2 votes
#7.9 - Mon Jul 26, 2010 6:36 PM EDT

Glen, while you may think of the GOP as the party of 'no', there is nothing that they have introduced of substance that the democrats in control will even let get passed committee. Pay attention. That is the problem with the bulk of the left - they don't pay attention. They hear Obama and Pelosi and figure that is the truth when they are being lied to.

When you are completely dependent on government, maybe then you will ask yourself "What did I do." Unfortunately it will be too late then. Who will you blame once totally screwed? Bush? lol

  • 1 vote
#7.10 - Mon Jul 26, 2010 11:14 PM EDT
Reply

Well, trolls there is the transparency you all shill about not having. You need to know the political advertisers and their covert activities. BP is one foreign corporation spending money to influence American thoughts; even after BP has destroyed the ecological and economic region of the south eastern North American continent. Have you noticed all those fake ads BP has about how much it will do for the people in the Gulf? Yet, the lying BP is not paying its claims and you have Republicans touting BP. Btw the way BP's stock is up.

  • 3 votes
Reply#8 - Mon Jul 26, 2010 4:33 PM EDT

Beverly:

I saw that photoshop doctored up Ad from BP showing a helicopter from the cockpit flying directly over the spill area. A beautiful sunny day, the gulf had a picture perfect blue look to it (no oil or signs of oil), pilot, co-pilot and a third person smiling and pointing at the water below like a catastrophe had been averted. Problem is someone with a keen eye noticed a few odd-ball things about the ad. A close up look at the helicopter instruments showed that the helicopter was not even in flight.

  • 3 votes
#8.1 - Mon Jul 26, 2010 4:46 PM EDT

CA,

I saw that as LMAO, also control tower on the left and parking break on. That piece was priceless. I guess Tony is gone in October, taking a position in the Russian Oil Fields, with same company. Did anybody see an article over the weekend where BP was using prison labor instead of locals. I know they would get some tax breaks if they did and some of the arnings are paid back to BP. Advise if anybody knows.

  • 2 votes
#8.2 - Mon Jul 26, 2010 5:43 PM EDT

Beverly,

Obama received more BP money than any politician in the last 20 years. BP's former CEO, Browne, was/is one one of the world's foremost promoters of cap and trade, Obama's energy centerpiece. BP (re-branded as Beyond Petroleum) donated a $500 million grant to University of California, Berkeley for green dream studies. The man credited for securing the grant was Steven Chu. Steven Chu is now Obama's Secretary of Energy. University of California, Berkeley donations to Obama - $1,591,395.

Oil Protection Act of 1990 gives the federal government authority to monitor BP, direct BP, or remove BP and take over.

With regard to containment and clean up in particular, Obama is responsible for everything BP has done and everything BP has not done. It's 100% on Obama.

BTW - Did Obama ever figure out who's asz to kick?

  • 5 votes
#8.3 - Mon Jul 26, 2010 5:51 PM EDT

Bob-1805084

Are you out of your mind? Obama is responsible for this spill? How is it that the current President who was a Senator at the time when the Lil Shrub & Darth Cheney allowed for this rig and many like it to NOT have anyone inspect it? To have inspections waived because of BP's assurance to Bush's MMS that if a spill occured that it would be no issue to clean up. You must either be a total tool or Sharon Angle in drag w/ your absurd assumptions.

  • 2 votes
#8.4 - Mon Jul 26, 2010 7:41 PM EDT

BP contributed heavily to the Obama campaign. He must have forgot.

  • 2 votes
#8.5 - Mon Jul 26, 2010 11:39 PM EDT

Philip,

I guess one of my absurd assumptions was that jackasses couldn't use a computer. As evidenced by your post, it appears they can.

Now if they can only develop reading comprehension and find Wikipedia.

  • 2 votes
#8.6 - Tue Jul 27, 2010 1:35 AM EDT

Bob

Once again, how is this Obama's spill when it was your great president who deregulated the industry w/ Cheney's help. How is it Obama's fault when the MMS, a dept created by the great GWB was so manifestly corrupt. How is Obama's fault when the waivers we're signed on Bush's watch. So before you start going off on your Repub rant about Wikipedia or anything else, please explain then who this spill is Obama's fault. You do remember "Drill Baby Drill" right? The Repub mantra during the elections or will you be like your dream girl Sarah Palin, who I bet winks only for you, state that wa never the slogan of your kind.

  • 1 vote
#8.7 - Tue Jul 27, 2010 1:02 PM EDT
Reply

Lotsa goingson today, WikiLeaks, RNC's marriage to BriteBart, Netroots Nation,Blago closing arguments,together, have kept Rangel from taking his anti-acid meds!

Whats new now, Pakistani ISI in-bed with the Taliban! Daum, Callda Law! Stinger missles shooting down American helicopter's, bring Raygun up for war Crimes against America!

Are Republican's actually so Inheritly Dumb, as to think, that Independents want thier brand back in Office? Tancredo thinks so, Mikey Steele thinks so, the Alaskan Wild Dingbat think's so. Even Corparate America thinks So & Thats the Real Kicker!

Holy Roller shows up at 1st Read, like he's just left the Crap table's in SinCity, O wait, he's one of them HOLYROLLERS, the RightWingTalibanBibleThumpingTeaPartier HolyRoller's. Oop's, My bad!

And Charlie Rangel Smiles!

You Betcha!

  • 4 votes
Reply#9 - Mon Jul 26, 2010 4:39 PM EDT

Nice one Rick, keep them coming.

  • 2 votes
#9.1 - Mon Jul 26, 2010 5:45 PM EDT

Rick,

I agree that the independents probably don't want the Republican brand back in office. But, I think by the time the elections roll around they will see it as the lesser of two evils. Very few people I talk to in the "real world" are at all pleased with the way things are going now. If Obama had said nothing at all there might be a chance, but you can't assure the American people that the steps you are taking will keep the unemployment rate below 8% and then have it rise well beyond that. At this point, all other issues are just window dressing that the guy trying to feed his family could care less about. And, telling people who can't find a job how much better things are getting falls on deaf ears. Unless the economy makes an incredible turnaround (not very likely) things are not likely to go well for Democrats in particular and encumbents in general.

    #9.2 - Tue Jul 27, 2010 10:22 AM EDT
    Reply

    I am upset that "MSNBC- The place for politics" did not even carry the President's entire 5 minute speech from the Rose Garden on this important issue. Instead, they went to commercials and then the new anchor's lead-in was "President Obama to appear on The View; is this an appropriate forum for him to get out his message?" This was said while the President was still speaking from the White House Rose Garden and MSNBC was not covering it! I heard more from Pat Buchanan about why Obama should not appear on The View than I did from the President. If MSNBC is not going to give our President at least five uninterrupted minutes to get his message out, where else is he to go? At least on The View, he might get to finish his sentences before they go to a commercial.

    • 2 votes
    Reply#10 - Mon Jul 26, 2010 4:39 PM EDT

    So, it actually IS up to MSNBC to help get the president's message out? Now, what dollar value to that five minutes would you assign and how should they disclose that corporate gift?

    Guess we won't be seeing the Fairness Doctrine implemented afterall.

    I'm thinking that way, way more people will see him on ABC"s "The View". That could explain it.

    • 5 votes
    #10.1 - Mon Jul 26, 2010 4:50 PM EDT

    P. Garland - If the President gets to finish even ONE sentence on "The View", he'll be the first one to have accomplished that feat since that show started! :)

    On topic - since I'm known to enjoy a good bumper sticker, here's one that fits the subject:

    Politicians should dress like race car drivers - at least we'd know who their corporate sponsors are!

    • 3 votes
    #10.2 - Mon Jul 26, 2010 4:53 PM EDT

    P. Garland, I agree with you completely. Sarah Palin and the Tea Baggers get more air time than President Obama. Even Tancredo gets proppped up like he's some kind of normal human being by being on Chris's program. And Buchanan for that matter.

    I think the President going on The View is a great idea. What's the difference whether he goes on The View or the Today Show or Fox Propaganda or some small radio station in some small town?

    Americans watch The View, Mr. Buchanan. Normal everyday Americans. Who vote. And are concerned about education, the economy and the future. They are as well concerned about the dumb thoughtless hate-filled fruitcakes in the GOP.

    • 1 vote
    #10.3 - Mon Jul 26, 2010 4:56 PM EDT

    Yes it is up to MSNBC, NBC, CBS, ABC, CNN, etc., to make sure Obamo becomes a rock star. Everything he says is important, except the stupid stuff like not wanting to take sides by ignoring the American flag, wanting to change the national anthem to "I'd like to teach the world to sing," that Moslims are his brethrin, bowing down to those who hate America. That he and wife dislike America. That he was born in Kenya. The list goes on and on but his media won't really address it.

    • 2 votes
    #10.4 - Mon Jul 26, 2010 11:58 PM EDT

    Bob Randall-1218482

    You really need to take your meds. This stuff about him being a Muslim, and you seem to forget that Bush and Cheney all bowed before the Saudis and we all know they hated America. That teabagger crap only gets you so far in life. So take your meds, come back to reality, and try to live in it. You have no proof he's a Muslim, you have no proof he wasn't born in Hawaii like the birth certificate says. Your issue is that a Black man beat a White man for the Presidency and by a large margin at that. Your rascist tendencies for foaming at the mouth for anything that is not in your deluded little mind as "America" just drive you crazy. This discussion is about tranparency, Not some Teabagger deluded reality of a all white America w/ those of color at your beck and call as your servants.

    • 1 vote
    #10.5 - Tue Jul 27, 2010 1:21 PM EDT
    Reply

    Transparency has never been an issue with me for this administration. It's easy to see through them.

    • 6 votes
    #11 - Mon Jul 26, 2010 4:43 PM EDT

    Have you been so hard on previous adminsitrations for lack of transparency and will you be as hard on future administrations for lack of transparency? No need to remind me of this administration's promise of transparency when running for election. They all do it, both sides, but in the end it does not matter who promises transparency more than the other, for it is not something that should require a promise, it is something that should be expected by the American people (from both sides).

    • 2 votes
    #11.1 - Mon Jul 26, 2010 4:52 PM EDT

    Richard, Transparency? kidding right?

    you make me laugh there funny gal.

    • 1 vote
    #11.2 - Mon Jul 26, 2010 5:19 PM EDT

    Glen:

    Turn on your personal GPS, please? You appear to be lost.

    • 5 votes
    #11.3 - Mon Jul 26, 2010 5:36 PM EDT

    richard, my side is splitting. just splitting. your comedy is too much. maybe you should write for the comedy show on fox news that is similar to the daily show (only without the humor). oh that's right, it lasted less time on the air than our budget surplus after clinton left office and the republicans took over. here's laughing with you. oh, sorry, laughing at you. yes, laughing at you

    • 1 vote
    #11.4 - Mon Jul 26, 2010 5:42 PM EDT

    Glen: Turn on your personal GPS, please? You appear to be lost.

    Boy, I'll say.

    • 1 vote
    #11.5 - Mon Jul 26, 2010 5:45 PM EDT

    CA:

    I'm hard on pretense. I honestly don't lose a lot of sleep over "transparency" because it's a buzz word to fit a campaign that made a lot of people think that this president or this administration was going to be different. Frankly, I think the left's approach to George Bush, that he was dumb, illiterate and evil incarnate was far preferable to their the aggrandizement of this President.

    In general I agree with your post. They all do "it", I suppose. I only try to point out that this president and administration is no different. All the corporate disclosure laws in the world won't change that. But tell my why this sudden interest in it doesn't simply fit in with the lead up to the elections?

    This legislation isn't being proposed at just this time for the good of the order. It's being brought up because they think it's good for the campaign. It supports the simplistic ongoing "Democrat Good, Republican Bad" approach.

    • 7 votes
    #11.6 - Mon Jul 26, 2010 5:54 PM EDT

    Glen:

    I haven't figured out yet if you're really Peter Griffin or Stewie Griffin or Chris Griffin.

    You're definitely not Brian.

    Stewie is actually intelligent in his perverse way.

    Process of elimination.

    Say hi to your sister Meg for me.

    • 2 votes
    #11.7 - Mon Jul 26, 2010 6:05 PM EDT

    CA, i was being sarcastic with richard regarding transparency. regarding the GPS thing, please do not encourage richard. he has limited comedy skills as it is.

      #11.8 - Mon Jul 26, 2010 6:06 PM EDT

      Oh, please CA, encourage me, encourage me! I need practice!

      • 3 votes
      #11.9 - Mon Jul 26, 2010 6:28 PM EDT

      thats the truthhow the demwits can talk about transparency after all the lies obama and pelosi promised especially during campaign its really dumb on thier part and after campaign if it was;nt what obama wanted then the doors were shut to everybody,just go back to the healthcare debates the republicans could not even get in the room. their has been no transparency in this adm.just look at al frankens elect. the no. he won by was less tha the elegal voters (prisoners) if all they have is msnbc and the veiw to get thier mess. out good luck(the least watched cable news and getting smaller).

      • 2 votes
      #11.10 - Mon Jul 26, 2010 7:05 PM EDT

      The post above is not in english. thanks there chief for the laugh. you can leave the union any time you like there carlyss man.

        #11.11 - Mon Jul 26, 2010 7:47 PM EDT

        carlyss man

        Are the Repubs anymore transparent? I'm not sure if your aware of this but your hero Ronald Reagan sold weapons to the Iranians. That the lil shrub and Darth Cheney spied on the population w/o warrants right. The only Bush who might have actually spoke the truth was Bush Sr. w/ " Voodoo Economic" issue he had w/ ronald Reagan. Are you just another Repub plant who just spews at the mouth but can't smell the feces when their covered in it. We may never have transparency because our political stooges we have called representation have been bought by the corporations. you may not like Obama, but do you think Garmpy McCain and Dimwit Palin would have done any better? He would probably be dead because the stress from seeing the mess that Bush/Cheney left him w/ would kill him leaving us Sister Sarah. How would she answer the pressing needs of the public? Like she offered on Faux News about plugging the well. " The Dutch many years of experience w/ dikes that its a shame Obama hasn't called on them." Thats right plug it w/ your finger. Or the other one , Prayer to stop the thing from spewing. Great policy and this is apparent one of the Great Thinkers of your Party.

        • 1 vote
        #11.12 - Mon Jul 26, 2010 8:01 PM EDT

        Philip and Glen.............. all you do is cry about what he inherited. why the hell did he run for president,the fact is the dems are so scared of palin, beck, fox and rush all you cando is keep talking about them all the while your wimpy president is going down in the poles every week even the democratic senators are running from him. everyone he helps loses. face it your through.

        • 1 vote
        #11.13 - Mon Jul 26, 2010 9:08 PM EDT

        carly ass man, i realize this is beyond your comprehension there tough guy, but we heard "it was clinton's fault" for 3 years. heard "it was carter's fault" for most of reagans term. it comes with the territory. get over it.

        by the way it's "polls". "poles" are what you shimmy down in the evenings now that your transgender operation is complete.

        obama has the same approval ratings as jesus christ himself Ronald Reagan had 18 months in. oh that's right, he was cleaning up carter's mess.

        as far as the "wimpy" thing, how come every republican thinks he is the next george patton. hey tough guy, go sign-up for the military. i am sure they could use your toughness and smarts (chuckle chuckle).

        • 1 vote
        #11.14 - Mon Jul 26, 2010 9:32 PM EDT

        Richard, it is easy for anyone with a brain to see thru him. There is nothing there except smoke and mirrors. And I am a life long democrat. Kids today vote for idiots like that because the kids are idiots themselves. They don't want to work, think the wealthy owe them something, want something for nothing. I suggest that they ask their congress critters who are millionaires, mostly democrats, to ask them to tax what they have by 40 or 50% and see how far their champions will go, especially the 8 out of the top ten in congress who are the richest in congress and are also democrats.

        The truth might set you free if willing to see, Obamites.

        http://www.opensecrets.org/pfds/overview.php?type=W&year=2008

        • 3 votes
        #11.15 - Tue Jul 27, 2010 12:06 AM EDT

        Bob Randall

        So once again, why is this such a bad bill then when it will shine the light on who receives what? The idea that it requires those who want to change your mind about candidates have to be disclosed. In CA there was bill or initative that was absolutely destroyed by the Oil industry for clean energy. Those who sponsered the attacks where the oil industry and they never once had to be disclosed. The bill went down in flames because the voters we're given so much misinformation regarding the information. Transparency during this time would have given the voters a better understanding who was pushing to kill this bill or initiative. You see knowlege is power and understably Big Business doesn't want you to have that power. This bill simply shines a light on those who prefer to remain in the dark.

        • 1 vote
        #11.16 - Tue Jul 27, 2010 1:51 PM EDT
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        Feisty Redhead and Pat

        Very good posts, the problem is people like Richard are immune to change.

        >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

        Ricky

        Are Republican's actually so Inheritly Dumb, as to think, that Independents want thier brand back in Office? Tancredo thinks so, Mikey Steele thinks so, the Alaskan Wild Dingbat think's so. Even Corparate America thinks So & Thats the Real Kicker!

        Yes, it seems like it. Are you ready for this kick in the snoozer? John Bolton, who really does look like Hitler; but only like Hitler on crack wants to hit Iran. And Newt Gringrich wants to invade South America.

        Have a nice evening all

        • 4 votes
        Reply#12 - Mon Jul 26, 2010 4:56 PM EDT

        You have no room to talk, Bev. You live in one of the most corrupt and crime ridden cities in America. You have second generation mafia as mayor. Most ex governors in prison. A police force on the take. A totally blown city and state budget. Basically, you are clueless.

        • 2 votes
        #12.1 - Tue Jul 27, 2010 12:09 AM EDT
        Reply

        CA, Tuscaloosa, AL

        Photoshopping that Ad from BP only proves how stupid this corporation and others think we are!!

        • 2 votes
        Reply#13 - Mon Jul 26, 2010 5:03 PM EDT

        Obama's Hope and Change Platform showed how stupid we are. His election shows how incompetent we are to even vote..

        • 5 votes
        #13.1 - Mon Jul 26, 2010 6:09 PM EDT

        excaliburgc, based on your comments below regarding David Ayers (still not sure who he is-it's Bill Ayers), please do not use the word "we" regarding stupidity. you obviously are at a whole different level than the rest of us. how's that Edumaction thingy working our for ya?

        i hope you were this way when Earl Bush and David Cheney were in office.

        • 2 votes
        #13.2 - Mon Jul 26, 2010 6:36 PM EDT

        Bev, BP was a big contributor to Obama. That is a fact. That you refuse to believe the truth only shows your ignorance on the matter. Bet you a $ you are on welfare and have been for years.

        • 2 votes
        #13.3 - Tue Jul 27, 2010 12:11 AM EDT
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        OK now you want to talk about transparency.  For 18 month this administration made it very clear transparency was not going to happen.  But now they are attacking the republicans unbelievable the new obama mantra is what mine is mine and what yours is mine.  Yea that sounds true to form. 

        • 4 votes
        Reply#14 - Mon Jul 26, 2010 5:30 PM EDT

        thetotas:

        You need to turn on your personal GPS as well.

        • 1 vote
        Reply#15 - Mon Jul 26, 2010 5:51 PM EDT

        I would love to see Obama disclose His campaign contributors,His ties to David Ayers, How He went and paid for Harvard, His connection to the Socialist and Communist in his Administration

        • 3 votes
        Reply#16 - Mon Jul 26, 2010 6:07 PM EDT

        excaliburgc, if you are going to be a half wit, please know what the hell you are talking about. it's Bill Ayers not David Ayers. who is David Ayers? and socialism is different than communism. good god there spiffy, use your head for more than just a hat rack.

          #16.1 - Mon Jul 26, 2010 6:17 PM EDT

          While you're at it, excaliburgc, you might want to be careful with those capitalizations -i.e., "He"? "His"? If I didn't know better, I'd think from this post that you were one of us crazy libs who thinks Obama is The Messiah!

          • 1 vote
          #16.2 - Mon Jul 26, 2010 6:42 PM EDT

          its bill ayres that helped obama get started after he spent twenty years an american hateing rev. right church (o I forgot obama didnt hear nothing for twenty years)and dont forget his good freind tony rezco. please defend him against these alligations and don forget his affiliations with accorn.one of the biggest jokes and illegal money launderes. have a nice day.

          • 2 votes
          #16.3 - Mon Jul 26, 2010 7:17 PM EDT

          carlyss man, holy smokes. nice incoherent ramble. at first glance, it looks like a simple paragraph, but when you look a little closer, it's not really english. your not here illegally are you juan?

          maybe you are like sarah palin and shakespeare. only instead of new words, its a whole new language.

            #16.4 - Mon Jul 26, 2010 7:42 PM EDT

            just your president is the only one hear illegally.

            • 1 vote
            #16.5 - Mon Jul 26, 2010 9:10 PM EDT

            carlyss man, you idiot. it's "here" not "hear".

            you can't put together simple paragraphs, you ramble on with long winded run-on sentences and you have no idea how to spell.

            you truely are the "child left behind". from your writings, i take it you are part of the population that pays very little in taxes because your income is a lot less than the rest of us. i mean, there can't be that much demand for a person of your intelligence in the business world. yet you complain and complain about taxes you do not pay.

            • 1 vote
            #16.6 - Mon Jul 26, 2010 9:23 PM EDT

            the demwits are the people that expect someone else to pay your way.You have plenty to say about me but you can;t reply to my acusations about your president,I think you must know what I say is true,especialy about his freinds and the way he apoliges for america,this whole page is full of nothing but rightwing bashing,you have nothing good to say about anything.

            • 1 vote
            #16.7 - Tue Jul 27, 2010 8:40 AM EDT

            My questions is why aren't the Teabaggers asking for more disclosure? They scream they want their country back, would they want to know who is paying for the ads for the Dems? Or is it simply the fact we have Teabaggers on First Read who want to bring up everything from David Ayres, how Obama paid for Harvard, we know it was student loans which he recently just paid off, but for the nutjobs out there, "not good enough". Disclosure is the only way everybody knows who trying to do what to influence your vote. Both the Repubs and Dems will fight this, or at least some Dems will. The Repubs will not want their donors disclosed period because it then ask the question. "Why are you Big Businesses Bit##?" Some Dems will have that same questions asked of them, a few come to mind, Mary Landrieu, Ben Nelson, Lieberman for example. These Dems will definitely fight this bill because they will have the most to lose when their contributor come to light. But the most valid point I've heard is this, Do you want foreign countries influencing your vote? If you do, then you have every right to have someone else make up your mind, but if you don't supporting this bill will shine some light on the cockroaches influencing public policy.

            • 1 vote
            #16.8 - Tue Jul 27, 2010 2:27 PM EDT

            Phillip,

            While I generally agree with your premise (though I must say it is weakened by your apparent need to use the term Teabagger to put down people you disagree with) but I do have an honest question to ask regarding foreign money.

            We obviously don't want foreign governments sticking their nose into our affairs - no question. But, how do we handle someone like Toyota. They are obviously a foreign company, but they have manufacturing plants and dealerships here. Should they have a right to contribute to candidates that would protect their American investments?

            As for the basic issue, I have yet to hear a good reason why companies should not disclose that they are responsible for an ad. However, I also don't see that it will actually make a difference one way or another. Companies with this much money can simply create another company and have it create the ad. Or, they can simply donate to organizations that will do their bidding.

              #16.9 - Tue Jul 27, 2010 3:31 PM EDT

              JC-1439099

              If everyone, and I mean everyone not just the Repubs, but the Dems as well have to disclose, everyone will have and idea why they are either supporting or not supporting whatever bill that come up. The term "Teabagger" was a term the Tea Party called themselves before they realize the urban connotations of the word. So if it offends, I apologize. But the premise still stands, transparency only helps the public make a better informed decision on matters. A well informed populace is better armed than one that is spoon fed the constant drivel being spewed on both sides. But the question still stands, 41 Repubs voted against transparency. Yes the loop holes for the NRA, AARP and Unions should have been stripped, and could have been stripped in Conference. I don't want anyone trying to influence my vote. Thats why I read the initiatives and try and find out why someone is for or against something and can make and informed decision from there as all the American people should.

              • 1 vote
              #16.10 - Tue Jul 27, 2010 5:55 PM EDT
              Reply

              This is my first time to this site. I must admit, that what passes for thoughtful arguments and reasoned debate here is quite disturbing. There's more name-calling and hateful speech here than anything else.

              What does that say about the NBC audience? (... but "we all know" the conservatives are the "haters" -- jeez - get a mirror people!!)

              I'm sure I'll become a target just for pointing this out.

              • 4 votes
              Reply#17 - Mon Jul 26, 2010 9:27 PM EDT

              My suggestion then Brian is... keep on moving right back over to the Faux Noise site...

              No you're not a target... don't flatter yourself...mkay?

                #17.1 - Mon Jul 26, 2010 9:54 PM EDT

                Nice call, Brian.

                • 3 votes
                #17.2 - Mon Jul 26, 2010 10:53 PM EDT
                Reply

                If Congress will include the unions and not-for-profits in the new disclosure act, I'm all for it!

                • 4 votes
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