Obamas to vacation at Gulf

President Obama and the first family will spend the weekend of Aug. 14th and 15th on Florida's Gulf Coast, the White House announced. The White House did not specify where yet.

The move comes after criticism from some that the president chose to vacation in Maine last weekend, but not the Gulf following the oil spill.

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Typical. How about doing your f$#king job?!?!?!?

  • 3 votes
Reply#1 - Thu Jul 22, 2010 3:22 PM EDT

Typical HATER....

How about the FACT that President Obama has TAKEN 50% LESS vacation time than 'W' did at this point in their respective Presidencies!!!!!!!!!!!!!

President Obama = approx. 65 days

President Bush = approx. 120 days

So give it a F@#$%&*G REST and find something else to bitch about!

  • 9 votes
#1.1 - Thu Jul 22, 2010 3:48 PM EDT

Flighty Deadhead: So give it a F@#$%&*G REST and find something else to bitch about!

The Left is cracking under the pressure. Of course this Lefty came pre-cracked.

  • 4 votes
#1.2 - Thu Jul 22, 2010 3:54 PM EDT

I live in Alabama and I'm fine with him NOT coming to our coast. I wish the government would stay out of this all together and let business succeed or fail on their own.

Maybe they could invite surviving family members who lost dear loved ones in the accident to come to the White House and take a vacation on the government? How much have we heard about these poor grieving families who lost loved ones while WORKING to support their families?

  • 1 vote
#1.3 - Thu Jul 22, 2010 5:21 PM EDT

you are wrong, Obama has taken three times what bush did in 4 years and played goft 87% more already than Bush did in 4 years..

    #1.4 - Thu Jul 22, 2010 10:51 PM EDT

    Neal O-2052425

    you are wrong, Obama has taken three times what bush did in 4 years and played goft 87% more already than Bush did in 4 years..

    ___________________

    And you Neal... are a lying troll...

    -- Obama has taken 65 vacation days compared with 120 for Bush at this point, including 13 trips to his Crawford ranch, per CBS's Mark Knoller.

    Now it's your turn to PROVE what you're saying about 'golfing' to be in FACT true!

    • 1 vote
    #1.5 - Fri Jul 23, 2010 9:10 AM EDT

    Who in their right mind , down in the Gulf states would like to see the Bama now? After he had done messed up the oil spill. He had a golden opportunity to stop the flow from reaching the coast but he blew it as he is blowing every thing he touches. I , for one wouldn't want to see him. There is too much of misery down there. As the President of the US , he has failed them. If he had expedited the emergency services and stopped the oil from reaching the coast , it would have been sucked up by hired equipment and services, and jobs would have been preserved with what little was functioning before. No, but the Bama wanted his unions to do the clean up and got the surprise of his life when the hurricane struck. It made matters worse. The oil is now inland from the coast. With the ban of further drilling, jobs are gone, the oil has spoiled the food chain, businesses are lost and families are going to the poorhouses. That's socialism for you. Obama style. Still wanna vote for him? Anyone, anyone?

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    #1.6 - Fri Jul 23, 2010 11:05 AM EDT

    The Left is cracking under the pressure. Of course this Lefty came pre-cracked.

    The ignorance of children can be indearing and humorous but the ignorance of those who are supposed to be adults can really get annoying at times. I can't blame anyone for finally sounding off when they are subjected to relentless, absolutely incorrect and down right retarded statements like the one in question here. The facts are easily checked.

    I live in Alabama and I'm fine with him NOT coming to our coast. I wish the government would stay out of this all together and let business succeed or fail on their own.

    Well, I would love for president Obama to come to Alabama and he could stay at my humble home if he wanted to. aumomma, or whatever your name is, your comment is...well, stupid. If only letting businesses rise or fall on their own was always as simple as that. If BP fails and collapses or is bought out it will only be after taking the gulf coast with it because of their corrupt and greedy practices. Regulations are necessary.

    you are wrong, Obama has taken three times what bush did in 4 years and played goft 87% more already than Bush did in 4 years..

    I guess the hard core, right wingers are just saying to hell with candy coating the lie before they parade it all about as the truth these days because that was just dumb as he11.

      #1.7 - Fri Jul 23, 2010 11:15 AM EDT

      This guy is always on vacation!
      I want my vote back.

      • 1 vote
      #1.8 - Fri Jul 23, 2010 12:10 PM EDT

      a lot of people includeing dems would like to have thier vote back but we were lied to by a man who made his liveing lieing to the public,I wonder why it was not a known fact to the people before he was elected that it took him three times to pass the bar exam.

        #1.9 - Sun Jul 25, 2010 6:41 PM EDT

        Carlyss please post your source proving Obama failed his Illinois Bar Exam 2 times. Try to at least find the year he was licensed. Due to the high probability you will have no refs to cite, it was Hillary and Michelle Obama who failed their first bar exam attempts.

        Here is a great Question/Answer Bulletin Board post you may learn something from.

        Question: What do you do after passing the bar exam?

        Answer:

        First, exhale...

        Passing the Bar exam usually means you can be licensed to practice law in that state. The next step is to get someone to pay you for doing it. If you're really lucky, really connected, or your dad has enough political pull, you'll join a big law firm, get paid a ridiculous salary for a punk kid just out of law school, handle all the crap cases until the older lawyers drop dead at 45, and then you'll gradually move up the ladder. You'll be supporting two ex wives and a couple of girlfriends, popping pills and drinking yourself silly every night.

        OR, you could set up shop by yourself, defend people who don't have the money to pay a $400 dollar an hour lawyer, do the best you can, and be a meaningful member of society.

        It's up to you.

          #1.10 - Mon Jul 26, 2010 2:36 PM EDT
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          For the Obama haters it seems that the President WILL be going to the Gulf on vacation. Now what will you whine about? Next you'll want him to spend the entire month of August in Texas like his predecessor did.

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          Reply#2 - Thu Jul 22, 2010 3:24 PM EDT

          oh yeah? what's he waiting for? I'll believe it when I see it.

            #2.1 - Thu Jul 22, 2010 3:33 PM EDT
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            Some criticism? Our President seems more and more concerned what the media/opposition/world thinks.

            • 3 votes
            Reply#3 - Thu Jul 22, 2010 3:24 PM EDT

            That can't be true...

            "Responding to insistent questioning at today's press conference from NBC News's Chuck Todd ... Obama shot back: "We don't know yet how this thing is going to play out.

            "I know everybody here is on a 24-hour news cycle. I'm not. OK?"

            http://voices.washingtonpost.com/white-house-watch/obama-vs-the-news-cycle.html

            So, the president has clearly stated on many occasions that he does not pay attention to, nor are any of his actions dictated by the "insta-media" era that we live in.

            Events of the past couple of days make that statement somewhat questionable I will admit...

            • 2 votes
            #3.1 - Thu Jul 22, 2010 4:07 PM EDT

            Obama is ruining the stock markets.

              #3.2 - Fri Jul 23, 2010 12:11 PM EDT
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              Bill,

              Unfortunately, being concerned about what and how people feel about you is something akin to being a minority - no matter what the socio-economic educational upbringing.  In Executive Level Leadership Training it is thought to use this as a strength.  Never forget where you came from, look in the mirror every morning and treat people as you would be treated.

              I think the President like you are saying is trying to please everyone - reaching at the center.  He must have an eye on a 2nd term.

               

               

                Reply#4 - Thu Jul 22, 2010 3:33 PM EDT

                It doesn't matter what the president does, where he goes, or what initiatives he proposes. There are THOSE (and we know who they are) who will oppose him. It's all they DO, It's there mission.

                President Obama, please listen to those who voted for you.........those who did not vote for you, never will support you or agree with anything.

                Enjoy your vacation, wherever you decide to go with your lovely family!

                • 3 votes
                Reply#5 - Thu Jul 22, 2010 3:34 PM EDT

                Bill-2042931

                Some criticism? Our President seems more and more concerned what the media/opposition/world thinks

                >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

                Our President is going because he cares. When is John Boehner of Orange going to the Gulf or Cantor since they were so concerne? Oh, that's right Bohener of Orange prefers getting his in the tanning booths and Cantor would rather see a Brittany Spears concert.

                • 4 votes
                Reply#6 - Thu Jul 22, 2010 3:35 PM EDT

                Maybe that's because Mr Boehner's costituents aren't from the Gulf..... Sucks being Pres eh? You have to worry about all of the people in the country, as they are all your constituents....

                • 1 vote
                #6.1 - Thu Jul 22, 2010 5:21 PM EDT
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                Another vacation? Didn't Obama just get done with a vacation? Those 'Party Nights' at the White House must take a lot out of him.

                Obama can spend time with all the people that are unemployed because of the drilling moratorium. They can have picnic. Enjoy the day together.

                • 3 votes
                Reply#7 - Thu Jul 22, 2010 3:43 PM EDT

                What's wrong with going somewhere for a week-end? How often do you take a week-end to go somewhere away from home? I see no problem with that. You've heard the saying about all work and no play? It is a proven fact that productivity increases if you take brief periods of R & R once in a while to rest your brain and emotions.

                • 3 votes
                #7.1 - Thu Jul 22, 2010 4:55 PM EDT

                JoAnnaSmith, give it a rest will ya? You cannot be that obsessed with demeaning this man. I believe that deep down inside of that person that you are there is some sensitivity lurking and waiting for the chance to emerge and take a breath of fresh air.

                Seriously, I don't fault you for expressing your thoughts and opinions but really take a break, maybe go down to Gulf and vacation with the President for what, 18 hours.

                • 2 votes
                #7.2 - Thu Jul 22, 2010 5:02 PM EDT

                EVERY WEEKEND is a vacation for me. A vacation from the daily grind. Why should the POTUS feel differently?

                • 1 vote
                #7.3 - Thu Jul 22, 2010 5:50 PM EDT

                JoAnnaSmith, give it a rest will ya? You cannot be that obsessed with demeaning this man. I believe that deep down inside of that person that you are there is some sensitivity lurking and waiting for the chance to emerge and take a breath of fresh air.

                No, K Mac, Really... She is THAT obsessed. She really could care less about those who are unemployed either. It's just that she can use those people's misery to attack the president.

                Joanna Agent Smith is a part of the right wing machine. The lie that is the matrix. She and her kind use people for fuel and lie about it and everything else...Naturally, she does everything in her power to destroy Neo.

                Stupidly, Agent Smith thinks that Neo is one person (Obama) when in reality Neo is the entire nation. The entire nation stood up and said Bush sux, republicans suck and people like Joanna Agent Smith suck. Unfortunately, Agent Smith is too much of a right wing, nut job to ever think outside of her box.

                Oh no, quite the contrary, Agent Smith is obsessed with her box. It's all about her box. She's old and set in her ways and the future belongs to the youth so she chooses to stay in her box and throw stones at time, and change and people who have ideas because they represent choice and loss of control for her and her machines who live off of people and use them to better their own existence. If people wake up and start thinking and changing things then they would have to make their own fuel rather than do it at the expense of others and the latter has always been so much easier for Agent Smith and her robot friends...

                Good luck Agent joanna Smith. Hope your box never grows old and nasty...but I bet it already is.

                • 1 vote
                #7.4 - Fri Jul 23, 2010 11:39 AM EDT
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                It would not matter where the President vacations. The evidence is on this board--those who do not like him will find a reason to complain or make a snarky comment to make themselves feel better.

                I wish Pres Obama and his family a fun and safe trip.

                • 3 votes
                Reply#8 - Thu Jul 22, 2010 3:44 PM EDT

                'President Obama , what are you doing man? We're dying down here , help us pllleeeeesssssee." Carvel a diehard DINO

                  #8.1 - Fri Jul 23, 2010 10:05 AM EDT
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                  The president is going because the American people shamed him into going. Just another political ploy by Obama. Personally if I lived in the Gulf Coast I would not want him coming down for a visit. Anytime the President visits it is nothing but a big head ache for local businesses (read some of the comments from businesses in LA when he visited there) and local law enforcement. How about he stay in Washington, quit wasting money flying around, and work on getting people back to work. His job is to create jobs, jobs, jobs and getting the economy turned around. But then he doesn't know how to get the economy going or how to create jobs, to busy campaigning and blaming Bush for everything.

                  • 3 votes
                  Reply#9 - Thu Jul 22, 2010 3:48 PM EDT

                  I think the President has been boxed in, starting with the Rev. Wright controversy during the campaign and ending with his criticisms of Fox Propaganda.

                  People were you know, concerned, that he was going to be governing as the President of just African Americans. People were saying that. White people were saying that. Then he was seen as too weak toward the media, so he spoke up against especially Fox Propaganda. And he got killed in the press from all quarters because of it, including MSNBC.

                  Where some people may consider him weak, I think he's trying to be fair and gracious and genuine. But the big mouths in this country don't understand fair, graciousness and genuine.

                  It's embarrassing how low we are willing to go in order to get the rich people's candidates back in power in January. It really is.

                  President Obama I wish would go directly to the American people and tell them point blank - I am here to govern everybody, white and black, democrats and republicans ... and I will not stand for exploitation from the media ever again against anyone in order to get to me. And if the media doesn't like it, they can go and try working for a living.

                  • 5 votes
                  Reply#10 - Thu Jul 22, 2010 4:00 PM EDT

                  Except Pat, he is not here for everybody. He does not hold back his general distaste for pretty much half the country. He does not like the right. He does not like the center. He does not like businesses. Not insurance or financial companies, health care providers, or oil companies ---- all of which are made up of, by the way -- American people. He could care less about those whose view points differ from his own.

                  So he takes some vacation time. He'll be followed around by his entourage and constantly in touch with his staff. Presidents are Presidents 24/7/365. It will be a working vacation.

                  My issue is this. There are 12 million people the last thing on their minds right now is going on a fun filled vacation. They're worried about paying the bills, keeping their homes, taking care of their families and finding a job. It's nice the First Family will enjoy some more fun in the sun some coming weekend. One of my best friends will be spending his weekend packing the last of his belongings into the back of a truck after losing his job and losing his home. Then he'll drive 500 miles away to move in with his in-laws. He's hoping he might find some work out west.

                  None of the men and women in Afghanistan or Iraq are considering vacations right now. I'm sure most of them would rather be on the white sandy beaches of Florida - instead of hiding behind rocks, getting shot at and trying to stay alive.

                  I don't care what he does but I would prefer if President Obama showed some empathy for the American people. The country is not in good shape. The people are hurting. Now is not the time to be perceived as relaxing in an lavish five star hotel, or biking happily along the coast.

                  It makes him appear completely out of touch.

                  • 3 votes
                  #10.1 - Thu Jul 22, 2010 7:29 PM EDT

                  Candice, Bartlett ILL. You spoke for 12 millions of Americans who are facing a grim future. This economy will never recover under Obama's socialist policies. The idiot is not only stone deaf but stone face, and only bubbling and babbling socialist epithets about how the country is doing good economically. This man should never have been in power in the first place. He has no experience even to implement his backward and incongruous philosophy. He is firmly allied with people like Ayers and Wright and those international , intellectual crooks whom we call czars. They are behind all this socialist Keynesian economy and it will all fail, and it is failing already. Americans won't take this crap. Obama knows he is finished and he realizes that all his legislative ventures will be overturned and thrown in the dustbin where they belong. What a waste of the Presidency. If we had a free market President, this country would have been fully employed and he has the gall of blaming Bush. One thing he does not realize is that in blaming Bush, he looks like a fool. His socialist policies is in stark contrast to Bush policies. This is not an extension of Bush. This is his marxist socialist stupidity. But as Democrats are Democrats, they won't blame themselves but others. They are a bunch of losers. I would never vote for a party that has its origins in Communism. What a waste of votes.

                  • 1 vote
                  #10.2 - Fri Jul 23, 2010 10:28 AM EDT

                  Obama is going to vacation in Florida to PROMOTE TOURISM duh! GEEZUS!

                    #10.3 - Fri Jul 23, 2010 5:33 PM EDT
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                    Why Did Scaborough Run with the Fox Version
                    Scarborough Ran with the Fox Version instead of the truth and now he is trying to place all the blame on the White House... Sorry Scabrorough but this dog won't bit and it doesn't matter how many times you interrupt Norah O'Donnell, or cut off Capehart or anyone else who wants to tell to tell the compelling story of Shirley Sherrod, everyone now knows you are full of @!$%#....

                    Morning Joe, The Teabagging Party and Republican Controlled Media rushed this story out... And now he wants us to believe his Fake Outrage on how he can’t believe the Obama Administration fired Shirley Sherrod without doing their homework, well Morning Freaking Joe, it wouldn’t have been a firing, if you and your Republican Controlled Media had done your homework as well...

                    It must have infuriated Joe Scarborough that his show was the only show that choose to run the Breitbart Story.

                    Because from what I can see, and I may be wrong on this... but Morning Joe was the only program on his MSNBC to run with the Fox News/Breitbart Version, of the reverse racism story of Shirley Sherrod.

                    So why didn't the rest of MSNBC follow his lead, if his justification was "we didn't run the story until we had confirmation that someone in the Obama Administration had actually fired Shirley Sherrod"... why wasn't that enough for the rest of MSNBC Programing?

                    Savannah and Chuck of the Daily Roundown didn't run with the story....While sitting in for Chris Jansing, I didn't recall Norah O’Donnell running with the story, Tamron Hall didn’t run with it, Contessa Brewer didn’t run with, Andrea Mitchell didn’t run with it, Thomas Roberts who also set in for Chris Jansing didn't run with the manufactured story.

                    In fact, the first time I heard the Fox Version was on Morning Joe, and it wasn’t until Dylan Ratigan Show, that the FACTS started coming into light:

                    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/38332384#38332384

                    follow by Hardball with Chris Matthews:

                    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036697/vp/38332933#38332933

                    And Ed had it as breaking news

                    and a Countdown with Lawrence O’Donnell and of course you had the always thorough and competence of Rachel Maddow...

                    Considering that Joe Scarborough is "Suppose" to be a lawyer he should have known better, but who am I kidding, any time there is a potential story to make the Obama Administration look bad you can always count on Joe Scarborough and his Morning Joe staff to run with it, and let the facts be dammed...

                    Even as many on the panel this morning tried to show some dignity including Pat Buchanan surprisingly, Joe Scarborough couldn't bring him self to do this the same...

                    Now don’t get me wrong, some in the Obama Administration acted hastily in their firing of Shirely Sherrod, and in the manner in which they asked her to resigned simply cannot be defended (and I am a huge Obama supporter) but to get up this morning and watch the full of @!$%# Joe Scarborough, try to remove himself and his Republican Media friend from blame is unfreaking believable...

                    MORNING JOE was the only MSNBC Story to run with the FOX VERSION..... The never verified the video, they accepted it’s context because he suited their continuation of Obama Bashing, and now their "excuse" for running with the story is that the Whitehouse fired her first or we wouldn’t have ran with a video that we never bothered to verify... That’s the MORNING JOE EXCUSE???????

                    The bottom line is Morning Joe was the only Show on MSNBC to go with the Fox Version... and instead of saying they were snookered he choose to deflect the blame because his ego wouldn't allow him to criticize himself...

                    Fortunately the remaining MSNBC Programs won't have to spend the rest of their time deflecting blame, their time can now be spent reporting on how the Right Wing Media tried to railroad an innocent woman because the NAACP called them out on their racism...

                    And as a poster perfectly stated:

                    "

                    Today Scarborough was in panic

                    mode because he is the only on MSNBC who ran this BS story w/o checking the source. He freaked out when Mark Whitaker said that he wouldn't have ran the s/l w/o checking the source, he slammed Mike Barnicle when Barnicle said that the Media were more to blame than the WH. He knows that his job is on the line because it's embarrassing MSNBC and NBC News

                    Scarborough with no shame called Shirley Sherrod names from Reverse Racist to NBPP sympathizer, he praised Fox News and Breitbart for covering the story while slamming the MSM for not following Fox Lead, he painted Mrs Sherrod as an angry black woman, and blamed the WH for "encouraging reverse racism" because they appointed her....
                    And today the @!$%# dares acting with an holier-than-thou attitude blaming the WH for the lazy job of the MSM

                    by LaurenMonica"

                    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2010/7/21/886125/-Scarborough-is-Full

                    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2010/7/21/886420/-The-killing-of-Sherrods-dad-by-a-white-farmer-in-1965

                    • 9 votes
                    Reply#11 - Thu Jul 22, 2010 4:09 PM EDT

                    Awesome ATA! Voted!

                    • 2 votes
                    #11.1 - Thu Jul 22, 2010 4:12 PM EDT

                    I am convinced that Joe S. is attempting to hurt President Obama as much as he is able because he wants his friend, his personal friend - Jeb Bush - to be the next president in 2012.

                    • 3 votes
                    #11.2 - Thu Jul 22, 2010 4:26 PM EDT

                    You maybe right but hopefully by this time their chickens will be coming home to roosts...

                    Jeb Bush is the Silent Leader and shouldn't be overlooked... He has his hands in many things diabolical but right now no one is making the connection.

                    • Scarborough, Jeb Bush and Medical Examiner Connection: Scarborough and The unsolved death of LoriKlausutis; soon after her body was discovered in his office, This Former Florida Congressman and Spokes Person, made up a stories that attempted to lead everyone into believing the victim had chronic health issues..... (1) Question, why did he and his spoke person fabricate a Chronic Health Issues Story three hours after her body was found (2) Why was did the Associate Medical Examiner Dr. Michael Berkland also make the same claim, of a History of Health Issues when there weren’t any evidence of such a claim… (3) Why did the Scarborough home time news paper only followed-up on this story 5 times (Imagine if this were a Democrat)….(4) Why was a Medical Examiner, whose license was revoke in another state for reporting false information during an autopsy, and whose license was suspended in Florida, allowed to perform this autopsy.. (5) Why Jeb Bush’s appointed Department of Law Enforcement and Medical Examiner Commission Chairman, Dr. Stephen Nelson, failed to provide proof on if the suspension was ever lifted,
                    • Scarborough needs to explain his Jeb Bush connection... and I'm not just talking about how his current wife use to be Jeb Bush Staff assistant, but the Medical Examiner is in the Scarborough Case
                    • Bush vs. Gore: the 2000 Election... How did votes in a Democratic District go for Pat Buchanan
                    • The Florida School Teachers and the roll he and his brother played in trying to break them... There are many things the Jeb Bush is going eventually have to answer for.... and no one should over long him because if they do, it will be too late for us all...
                    • 1 vote
                    #11.3 - Thu Jul 22, 2010 5:04 PM EDT

                    How! I didn't know anything about this regarding morning joe and jeb. What sources can I go to to get more info?

                      #11.4 - Thu Jul 22, 2010 5:18 PM EDT
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                      Whaaaaa, whaaaaaaa, whhaaaaaaaaaa. The President and his family are gonna vacation on the gulf states soon. Whaaaaa, whaaaaaa, whaaaaaa. Piss and moan. Piss and moan.

                      • 1 vote
                      Reply#12 - Thu Jul 22, 2010 4:44 PM EDT

                      how about this, lets drop the bush bull crap, he is out, the socialist is in, obama has not done a damn thing to warrant yet another vacation, how about he stay in dc and tell them stupid demons to end this health care government complete take over, oh wait i forgot the socialist is a demon and wants per his own words a complete government take over of our health care system but first according to this idiot they have to take the house and senate,

                      lest also mandate this idiot take responsibility for the position he holds, it is crap almost two years into this mess he created he is still blaming the republicans and bush when any first year student knows the demo-craps owned congress and the house bush's last two years, the stimulus, his, the payout to the banks, his, the auto bail-out his, the home mortgage bailout, his, and guess what every single program he has pushed through from the stimulus to create and keep jobs has failed, who is he going to blame for all this bush again?? at least bush had a stimulus that went to the people not the morons on wall street,

                      since there are so many defending the constant vacationing morons why don't you tell all of us why your messiah refused to release his college records, what is he afraid the public will find, he is actually a Kenyan and went to school here on a foreign visa, or that he was such a crappy student the only way he was able to get where he was is because of his race, it can only be one of the two,

                      there is no reason for there to be nothing on the messiah of he actually attending all these schools and as he stated was the president at Harvard, i know this, obama is so far in over his head he has no clue what he is doing, as much as he golf, plays basketball and gives his worn out speeches while trying to convince the American public that the demons are gods gift to our nation while campaigning for them it would appear he is lost, the only thing he can do is what he knows talk, accuse, blame others and lie his butt off

                      • 3 votes
                      Reply#13 - Thu Jul 22, 2010 6:00 PM EDT

                      Al, try a little respect for the President. Including his title won't cost you any more than about ten keystrokes, and you might find that your need to call him the "messiah", "demon", "idiot" etc, drops down a notch. I'm pretty sure that Senator McCain would have commissioned a study to determine if President Obama was actually legally able to hold the office, that probably was done the first time someone raised the issue of citizenship. If Senator McCain didn't push the issue, given that finding then Senator Obama as being legally excluded from the office of the President would have given Senator McCain the presidency, I have to assume that President Obama is the lawful President of the United States, and we should all move on from that point.

                      • 1 vote
                      #13.1 - Thu Jul 22, 2010 6:23 PM EDT

                      Al 1975835, based on your incoherence in your lie filled rant, either you need to put the jack daniels back in the cabinet in your trailer or maybe your brain is currently on it's own vacation. you should welcome any type of healthcare, that way you can afford the zoloft you desperately need and finish your transgender transformation.

                      • 1 vote
                      #13.2 - Thu Jul 22, 2010 6:38 PM EDT

                      Franklin Roosevelt, a Democrat, introduced the Social
                      Security (FICA) Program. He promised:

                      1.) That participation in the Program would be
                      Completely voluntary,

                      No longer Voluntary


                      2.) That the participants would only have to pay
                      1% of the first $1,400 of their annual
                      Incomes into the Program,

                      Now 7.65%
                      on the first $90,000


                      3.) That the money the participants elected to put
                      into the Program would be deductible from
                      their income for tax purposes each year,

                      No longer tax deductible


                      4.) That the money the participants put into the
                      independent 'Trust Fund' rather than into the
                      general operating fund, and therefore, would
                      only be used to fund the Social Security
                      Retirement Program, and no other
                      Government program, and,

                      Under Johnson the money was moved to
                      The General Fund and Spent


                      5.) That the annuity payments to the retirees would never be taxed as income.

                      Under Clinton & Gore
                      Up to 85% of your Social Security can be Taxed

                      Since many of us have paid into FICA for years and are
                      now receiving a Social Security check every month --
                      and then finding that we are getting taxed on 85% of
                      the money we paid to the Federal government to 'put
                      away' -- you may be interested in the following:

                      ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ----

                      Q: Which Political Party took Social Security from the
                      independent 'Trust Fund' and put it into the
                      general fund so that Congress could spend it?

                      A: It was Lyndon Johnson and the democratically
                      controlled House and Senate.

                      ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --

                      Q: Which Political Party eliminated the income tax
                      deduction for Social Security (FICA) withholding?

                      A: The Democratic Party.

                      ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -----

                      Q: Which Political Party started taxing Social
                      Security annuities?

                      A: The Democratic Party, with Al Gore casting the
                      'tie-breaking' deciding vote as President of the
                      Senate, while he was Vice President of the US

                      ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -

                      Q: Which Political Party decided to start
                      giving annuity payments to immigrants?

                      AND MY FAVORITE:

                      A: That's right!

                      Jimmy Carter and the Democratic Party.
                      Immigrants moved into this country, and at age 65,
                      began to receive Social Security payments! The
                      Democratic Party gave these payments to them,
                      even though they never paid a dime into it!

                      ------------ -- ------------ --------- ----- ------------ --------- ---------

                      Then, after violating the original contract (FICA),
                      the Democrats turn around and tell you that the Republicans want to take your Social Security away!

                      • 2 votes
                      #13.3 - Thu Jul 22, 2010 10:53 PM EDT

                      Neal -

                      Great rundown of the history of social security.

                      Yes, they keep changing the rules.

                      • 1 vote
                      #13.4 - Thu Jul 22, 2010 11:11 PM EDT

                      Neal O - You are either a liar or seriously misinformed. Which is it?

                      Cadice - Unfortunately you're a fool.

                      http://www.factcheck.org/2009/03/fdrs-voluntary-social-security/

                      Social Security has never been voluntary and taxes paid to support it have never been deductible from federal income taxes. A widely e-mailed "history lesson" gets nearly all its facts wrong.

                        #13.5 - Fri Jul 23, 2010 12:19 PM EDT

                        Fleep.

                        Shoot. Snookered by Neal. Thanks for the heads up.

                          #13.6 - Sat Jul 24, 2010 1:23 PM EDT
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                          al-1975835, L-O-S-E-R

                          nice rambling manifesto. that's a whole lot of irrational talking points. give your boyfriend a kiss goodnight and take a pill.

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                          Reply#14 - Thu Jul 22, 2010 6:29 PM EDT

                          Let us be respectful to those whom we have elected to lead us. That shows respect for the country as well. As a Christian, I uphold what the Lord Jesus said about respecting those who are in positions of leadership.

                            Reply#15 - Thu Jul 22, 2010 10:46 PM EDT

                            Franklin Roosevelt, a Democrat, introduced the Social
                            Security (FICA) Program. He promised:

                            1.) That participation in the Program would be
                            Completely voluntary,

                            No longer Voluntary


                            2.) That the participants would only have to pay
                            1% of the first $1,400 of their annual
                            Incomes into the Program,

                            Now 7.65%
                            on the first $90,000


                            3.) That the money the participants elected to put
                            into the Program would be deductible from
                            their income for tax purposes each year,

                            No longer tax deductible


                            4.) That the money the participants put into the
                            independent 'Trust Fund' rather than into the
                            general operating fund, and therefore, would
                            only be used to fund the Social Security
                            Retirement Program, and no other
                            Government program, and,

                            Under Johnson the money was moved to
                            The General Fund and Spent


                            5.) That the annuity payments to the retirees would never be taxed as income.

                            Under Clinton & Gore
                            Up to 85% of your Social Security can be Taxed

                            Since many of us have paid into FICA for years and are
                            now receiving a Social Security check every month --
                            and then finding that we are getting taxed on 85% of
                            the money we paid to the Federal government to 'put
                            away' -- you may be interested in the following:

                            ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ----

                            Q: Which Political Party took Social Security from the
                            independent 'Trust Fund' and put it into the
                            general fund so that Congress could spend it?

                            A: It was Lyndon Johnson and the democratically
                            controlled House and Senate.

                            ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --

                            Q: Which Political Party eliminated the income tax
                            deduction for Social Security (FICA) withholding?

                            A: The Democratic Party.

                            ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -----

                            Q: Which Political Party started taxing Social
                            Security annuities?

                            A: The Democratic Party, with Al Gore casting the
                            'tie-breaking' deciding vote as President of the
                            Senate, while he was Vice President of the US

                            ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -

                            Q: Which Political Party decided to start
                            giving annuity payments to immigrants?

                            AND MY FAVORITE:

                            A: That's right!

                            Jimmy Carter and the Democratic Party.
                            Immigrants moved into this country, and at age 65,
                            began to receive Social Security payments! The
                            Democratic Party gave these payments to them,
                            even though they never paid a dime into it!

                            ------------ -- ------------ --------- ----- ------------ --------- ---------

                            Then, after violating the original contract (FICA),
                            the Democrats turn around and tell you that the Republicans want to take your Social Security away!

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                            Reply#16 - Thu Jul 22, 2010 10:52 PM EDT

                            Neal O - You are either a liar or seriously misinformed. Which is it?

                            http://www.factcheck.org/2009/03/fdrs-voluntary-social-security/

                            Social Security has never been voluntary and taxes paid to support it have never been deductible from federal income taxes. A widely e-mailed "history lesson" gets nearly all its facts wrong.

                              #16.1 - Fri Jul 23, 2010 12:22 PM EDT
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                              annyyverDeleted

                              Fiesty Redhead Roselle, Bush has taken more time because he worked hard to sustain the growth of the free market enterprise. His goals were different from Obama's and when you're a believer in the free market system you have to work hard to sustain it. All Obama is doing is tax and spend. That's easy. Raise taxes and spend. He does nothing more. So he has more time for vacation. That's all you Liberals do, tax the people and waste their money. Eg. Obama and his Keynesian economy. It has failed and so is you and the DINOS. Good riddance in Nov.

                                Reply#18 - Fri Jul 23, 2010 9:26 AM EDT

                                The president and his DINOS has dug a deep hole for themselves and is digging another hole to fill that hole they're in. What a bunch of morons. They implement their Keynesian economy and now that the country is in trouble , they blame Bush. I don't mind if they blame Bush if Obama and his henchmen were free market capitalists. I would understand that they inherit a capitalist economy and they tried to help it along the way and to finally fix it. But Bammy and his DINOS are a bunch of socialist democrats who are bawling their heads off simply because they are their own failure. They know that these stupid marxist/socialist policies won't work in America, the greatest free market system in the world and yet they try to ram this wrong headed philosophy down our throats. See you in Nov.

                                  Reply#19 - Fri Jul 23, 2010 9:42 AM EDT

                                  Yeah, like how they respected Bush. They still tear him down

                                    Reply#20 - Fri Jul 23, 2010 9:44 AM EDT

                                    Foxnews is only doing what the others don't do. All they , MSNBC, NBC and others do is appease the Annointed One, drop on their knees and you know what. Oh, then they attack people like Palin down to their clothes and undewear. Now when a serious story breaks they bawl. Like the Sherrod case, the Pink Panthers Party, the Acorn fiasco etc. Then, they do not mention nothing in their news nor on their talk show. Many a time Fox makes a lot of news but the 'Bama Press (BP) keeps silent or ignore it. They are stone deaf and stone face like the Bama. But try to touch or criticize the Great One. Only then , you realize that they have a press, a broadcast system, a cable station , a talk show or a radio show otherwise the silence is deafening. Uncannily, its the same process that preceded the rise of the Nazis in Germany.

                                      Reply#21 - Fri Jul 23, 2010 10:43 AM EDT

                                      Juven,

                                      Has anyone ever told you that you remind them of the crazy dude on the corner muttering to himself?

                                      You know the one... the guy that every one crosses the street to avoid?

                                      If not.... let me be the first! lol

                                        #21.1 - Fri Jul 23, 2010 12:22 PM EDT
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                                        Good morning liberal TURDS. Why are you always so angry and on edge when you are in power? You had alot of fun shooting arrows for 8 yrs. Sucks being on the other side. Never have I seen so many hand wringing, self doubting wussies in my life. It will be OK-you can go back to being in the back seat in Nov. where you are more comfortable.

                                          Reply#22 - Fri Jul 23, 2010 12:13 PM EDT

                                          Has it dawned to any of you nay-sayers that Obama's decision to take his family on a vacation to the Gulf is a decision that might actually help tourism there? It's one thing to encourage people to visit the Gulf region, it's another thing to back it up by having your kids swim in the water.

                                          Also, Obama has been under incredible pressure thanks to the god-awful mess left by Bush/Cheney. He deserves some down-time with his family - and his kids deserve some vacation time with their father! Anyway, this will probably be a working vacation for Obama, and much better use of time than "clearing brush" in Crawford Texas.

                                            Reply#23 - Fri Jul 23, 2010 4:52 PM EDT

                                            Had it been that the previous generations decided not to borrow and spend in fear of leaving us their children and grand children (the present generation) with debts, we the children and grand children would not be having the kind of things that we have at present. They had to spend heavily on research and development projects, space exploration, construction of roads, railway lines, schools, hospitals, education, economic recovery, fighting wars, just to mention a few. Even though they left us with debts that we have always continued to pay, we were privileged to inherit all that they made available for us through spending.
                                            The government has to spend because by spending, we are preparing the country for the future generation (the children and grand children) so that they may inherit from us better things and better standard of living than what we have at present.

                                            We have to borrow and spend so that we are able to continue making lots of things available for our children and grand children which they will not have to struggle to make themselves from the beginning when they grow up.

                                            This mess has been created in our generation and we are obliged to fix it without leaving it for our children and grand children. We may have to spend in order for us to fix it. If we do not spend now to save the economy for our children and grand children and just leave everything to collapse, what kind of America do we want these children and grand children to inherit.

                                            What Republicans are saying is this; 'we Republicans created this huge mess, yes we did, but you know it will be very expensive for this mess to be fixed. It can never be fixed for free. Fixing it definitely requires borrowing and spending but if we leave our opponents (Democrats) to borrow and spend, they will succeed in fixing it and we do not want that to happen. We can not let them fix it because that will make people to like them and make it difficult for us to win again. Because spending is what will help fix the mess, we republicans must adopt a strategy of discouraging Democrats from spending by shouting at them to stop spending. So let us all shout together---stop spending, stop spending, because spending will make you fix the mess, stop spendiiiiiiing.'

                                              Reply#24 - Fri Jul 23, 2010 9:59 PM EDT
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