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9:57am ET: And that concludes Meet the Press. Thanks for following along and enjoy the rest of your morning.
As always: If it's Sunday, it's Meet the Press.
9:54am ET: Some of the Watergate Babies, by the way: Sens. Chris Dodd, Tom Harkin, and Max Baucus; and Reps. George Miller, Henry Waxman, and Jim Oberstar.
9:53am ET: A dive into the history books: Democrats picked up a whopping 48 seats in the House in 1974. The class of newcomers would later be dubbed the "Watergate Babies."
9:50am ET: From a partial transcript - Bush's name mentioned seven times in 10 minutes.
9:47am ET: Sessions predicts "slightly over 40" House seat pickups for the GOP.
9:46am ET: Cornyn: "If the election was held today, it'd be a pretty good election." But he won't say how many Senate seats he thinks Republicans will pick up.
9:44am ET: Sessions: The Tea Party is made up of "one-third Democrats, one-third Republicans, and one-third Independents."
9:41am ET: Cornyn: It's "slanderous" to accuse the Tea Party of racism. "There's no basis for it."
9:37am ET: Optimistic: Here's what Vice President Biden said on ABC this morning regarding the midterm elections: "I don’t think the [Democratic] losses are going to be bad at all. I think we’re going to shock the heck out of everybody."
"We're going to be in great shape," he said.
9:34am ET: Cornyn won't say directly if the financial regulatory reform bill should be repealed, but he points out that even Senate Banking Committee Chairman Chris Dodd admitted that it's not clear how exactly the bill will impact the economy in the long run.
9:32am ET: Smaller government "is a positive agenda," Cornyn counters.
9:30am ET: Sessions said the GOP agenda should include "living within our means" and "making sure we read the bills."
Gregory responds: "That's a pretty gauzy agenda so far," asks Sessions to name more specifics.
9:27am ET: The NRCC's Sessions has set his personal goal high for 2010, saying that if the GOP does not retake the House, he will have failed to fulfill his “misison statement.”
Sessions was reportedly so gleeful to hear Gibbs’ admission that the GOP could potentially win back control of the House that he played a tape of the comment during a Republican meeting last week to fire up his colleagues.
9:26am ET: We're in a commercial break.
9:25am ET: No hesitation from Van Hollen: Obama is "absolutely an asset," not a liability for 2010 Democratic candidates.
9:22am ET: Guests discussing this POLITICO piece from Thursday, headlined "Why Obama loses by winning." Here's the lede paragraph:
Thursday’s passage of financial reform, just a couple months after the passage of a comprehensive health care overhaul, should decisively end the narrative that President Barack Obama represents a Jimmy Carter-style case of naive hope crushed by the inability to master Washington.
Yet the mystery remains: Having moved swiftly toward achieving the very policy objectives he promised voters as a candidate, Obama is still widely perceived as flirting with a failed presidency.
9:22am ET: Cornyn: "One party rule" is "scaring the living daylights" out of Americans.
9:19am ET: Van Hollen, describing the policy philosophy being articulated by Republicans, mentions Joe Barton's apology to BP and Minority Leader Boehner's statement that the recently-passed financial regulatory should be repealed.
9:18am ET: Sessions: GOP candidates are campaigning with this message about government spending: "We must live within our own means."
9:16am ET: In the first 15 minutes of this debate, former President Bush's name has been mentioned almost as many times as President Obama's. (UPDATE: Bush's name was mentioned 10 times and Obama's was mentioned 9 in the first 15 minutes, according to a rush transcript)
9:15am ET: Van Hollen: "We know we have a long way to go on the economy."
9:14am ET: Menendez of the DSCC said that Republicans have used the filibuster "in an unprecedented way in American history."
9:13am ET: Cornyn said that, while many of Obama's major legislative initiatives have passed, Americans don't believe the president has done enough to spur the economy and reduce unemployment.
9:11am ET: So, how many House seats are in play? Pundits and lawmakers have varying estimates of how many House seats could potentially change hands in November. Van Hollen estimated 70 in a recent interview. Republican House Leader John Boehner has said that number is more like 100.
Republicans need to win 39 seats this fall to win back the majority.
Can they do it? The Cook Political Report projects that Republicans will pick up 30-40 seats, while the Rothenberg Political Report sees about 25-30 pickups for the GOP.
9:10am ET: Van Hollen on Gibbs' statement: "This is the distinction between a mathematical possibility and a probability." He's made a similar point throughout the week since Gibbs appeared on Meet last week. From The Washington Post:
"It was mathematically true, but he failed to complete the sentence," Rep. Chris Van Hollen (Md.), chairman of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, said of Gibbs's assessment. "For 18 months we at DCCC and I specifically have made it clear that we are facing a very tough political season. We've also made it clear that at the end of the day we will retain our majority in the House."
9:08am ET: Sen. Cornyn of the NRSC: Americans "want to restrain this unprecedented spending binge."
9:06am ET: Rep. Van Hollen of the DCCC: "It's pretty fresh in [Americans'] memory what Republican policies did to the economy."
9:04am ET: Gregory asked Rep. Pete Sessions of the NRCC to respond to Obama's stump line that his policies will lift America out of the 'mess' created by the Republican policies of the Bush era. "I think change is in the air," Sessions responded.
9:01am ET: Opening the show, David Gregory notes how the president lashed out at the GOP during his weekly radio address yesterday. Here's an excerpt of what Obama said about Republicans in the Senate:
This week, many of our largest corporations reported robust earnings – a positive sign of growth.
But too many of our small business owners and those who aspire to start their own small businesses continue to struggle, in part because they can’t get the credit they need to start up, grow, and hire. And too many Americans whose livelihoods have fallen prey to the worst recession in our lifetimes – a recession that cost our economy eight million jobs – still wonder how they’ll make ends meet.
That’s why we need to take new, commonsense steps to help small businesses, grow our economy, and create jobs – and we need to take them now.
For months, that’s what we’ve been trying to do. But too often, the Republican leadership in the United States Senate chooses to filibuster our recovery and obstruct our progress. And that has very real consequences.
9:00am ET: And, we're on the air.
8:50am ET: Our guests this morning will be discussing the likelihood that Republicans will regain control of the House or the Senate after the midterm elections. Last week on Meet the Press, White House spokesman Robert Gibbs said that there are enough seats in play for Republicans to win back the House. He later said that he had only been stating the 'obvious,' but the comment nevertheless touched off a flurry of commentary from pundits and grumbling among Democrats demoralized by Gibbs' calculation. Here's the video of that exchange from last week:
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8:30am ET: Good morning from the NBC News Washington bureau. Today, on NBC's Meet the Press, the chairmen of the four campaign committees responsible for the House and Senate midterm elections are making their first ever joint appearance. To mark the occasion, we'll be live-blogging the show right here on First Read.
Starting at 9am ET, watch our play-by-play coverage of this exclusive debate between National Republican Senatorial Committee chairman Sen. John Cornyn (R-TX), Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee chairman Sen. Bob Menendez (D-NJ), National Republican Congressional Committee chairman Rep. Pete Sessions (R-TX), and Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee chairman Rep. Chris Van Hollen (D-MD).
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I've been avoiding MTP because of Gregory's unwillingness to challenge guest comments and his failure to point out the misleading comments made by republicans. I give him credit today for demanding the two republicans be specific--they have not yet answered his questions beyond dancing around the edges.
Mr. Gregory, how about asking if republicans would be willing to cut defense spending which gobbles up an unrealistic proportion of GDP. The GOP focuses on eliminating health care reform, and the financial reform bill (claiming the usual too big to fail spin--they could have voted tougher measures into the bill but instead filibustered) as their effort for cost savings.
I agree, Jody. There is no point to these politicians "Meeting the Press" unless the press is willing to hold their feet to the fire, no matter what their political affiliation.
Thanks, Carrie Dann, for providing this summary. I hope FR will continue doing this every Sunday.
I watch Meet The Press Every week... All I hear is the Republicans saying nothing while the Democrats are trying to solve the Problems they made!!! Bill Clinton had to fix Bush Sr problems and now Obama has to clean up even worse Bush Jr problems... Why didn't the Republican practice what they Preach when they had the chance when Bush was in office??? If they did the right thing back then... Obama wouldn't have to clean it up now!!!
Before these elections i would like to see MTP bring in some visual aids to help the Republicans understand how deep the hole was that Bush dug. Bring someone in from Fox News so that the Tea party and Republican supporters can actually understand what happened during the Bush years. Because i really dont think they understand the magnitude of the damage that the Bush agenda created. I mean break it down so that even the people that watch Beck can understand it. I mean that seams to be the only way these people can follow what is going on with the country.
I agree that I have avoided watching MTP as well for not correcting the Republicans party on all their lies, but today I was impress with the show.
Could not agree with Jody more. I logged into this blog to make the same comment.
Guess the two Republicans were not prepared to be challenged and it actually took the Democrates on the panel to point out some of the Republican agenda which they were shy about admitting to; vouchers for Medicare, etc.
I want to compliment you on today's show! David you asked the right questions and still could not get anything but a dance around the topic! Keep up the push! Voter's need the reminder of what our choices are. My fav is Rachel on your show- but today was YEAH! I get so discouraged when I think people believe all Texans think like Perry and Cornyn- YUK! We are turning BLUE again!
Ron,
I was born, raised and educated in Buffalo. Went to Bennett HS (back in the 60's) graduated the year after Bob Lanier and then on the Canisius. Go Bills and Sabers.
Now the two republicans are acting like Sharron Angle running away from their policy when Reid put her own views on display.
I believe both parties are living in a dream world. Republicans can'tanswer direct questions and Democrats believe Americans can't manage our own lives. ALL OF THE POLITCIANS NEED TO COME BACK TO EARTH. IT IS TIME THEY CHANGE. OBAMA RAN ON CHANGE, THE THING THAT HAS CHANGED IS THE AVERAGE AMERICAN'S LIFESTYLE.
How hard is it to say people are living longer, in some instances way to long, yes the age of Social Security is going up. How hard is it say we are socially liberal and fiscally conservative.
Let the politicians join our health care system not the one they created for themselves. Let them join the rank and file from a dollars and cents stand point. All of the politicians have lost site of the prize, BUILDING A BETTER AMERICA FOR ALL AMERICANS.
How can you expect the Americans to manage Their Own lives??? When you have the Rich doing everything they can to stop them!!! It was Bush's war that made this whole mess with the Mortgage Companies to make sure it will not get better... It was the Republican taxes cuts and spending that did this in the first place!!!
Why are the Republicans reluctant to remind the Democrats that Democrats were in control of Congress after 2006. George Bush surrenedered to the Democrats, he said elections meant something and he pull in his horns and licked his wounds. So much of the Bush economy that was so bad was a result of Fannie and Freddie and Barnie Frank and Chris Dodd were right in the middle of that. I do not get it. There were some Republicans responsible there as well. The other thing I don't understand is why they won't give some tough choice about spending. Entitlements are going to have to be addressed, can you say Spain. The other thing that drives me crazy is the republicans get painted as the big business party, the Republicans should and do represent small business. Small business is the job creator, you don't see a grading contractor or a framing contractor or a franchis owner that owns 3 Chick Filas opening a store or a division in China or Spain. Open your eyes republicans, the Democrats are getting the money from big business and you are getting the shaft. Play to your constituents.
Jim,
After 2006 the Dems BARELY had the majority in Congress, they were hardly able to affect legislation because the Repubs blocked most of what they tried to do and then there was the Veto that Bush kept threatening. As for Fannie and Freddy, I repeat, yet again, that they DID NOT ORIGINATE ANY LOANS, they only bought loans, with very strict guidelines. Look to the crooks like Countrywide Real Estate and others like them that DID sell loans designed to fail: they are being investigated for FRAUDULENT LENDING! And it was NOT Franks and Dodd who deregulated the industry, you can lay the blame of that to Phil Gramm and Jim Leach repealing the Glass-Steagall act. Nice link for you: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gramm%E2%80%93Leach%E2%80%93Bliley_Act
As far as the Repubs, look at how they seem to think that the Fiancial problems that MOST of America are facing now are miniscule and that the finance reform bill is like using a nuke to smash an ant...when we are facing the worst financial meltdown since the Great Depression. Of COURSE they think that everything is fine and dandy since the Stock Market and the Corporations are doing well, their profits are higher than ever and so Of Course the rest of America must be doing well too, right?? Lets put them out of work and into the unemployment lines, let them see how the rest of America, the ones that DON'T comprise the top 5% of the richest, are struggling just to keep food on the table and rent/housing payments made. Most of America lives payday to payday and any break in that can mean catastrophe for them. The Repubs cannot even find it in themselves to pass the Unemployment extensions that are so desperately needed by millions of Americans. On top of that, they were actually APOLOGIZING to the CEO of BP for the way that President Obama "strongarmed them out of $20B" for helping the PEOPLE of the Gulf States with their damage claims and to keep them from total economic collapse on top of the Ecological damage they are having to deal with.
The Repubs have been lying and distorting the truth about the programs that the Dems have managed to get through Congress, even with the Repubs trying to block them at every turn, and America is watchng. Since the Bush years, Americans have gotten rather canny about all of the les that are coming out of the mouths of the Repubs, and that is going to hurt them dearly come November: we want politicians to HELP us, not lie to us and block anthing and everything that could actually be helping ALL Americans get out of the deep hole that the Repub policies have gotten us into. Deregulation and lowered taxes have gotten us into the financial and ecological problems that we are facing presently. The way out if to raise taxes on the Uber Wealthy and re-regulate the Financial, Energy and Medical Insurance sectors of the Economy, amongst others.
Do NOT believe the lies from the Repubs, they are like the flaming figure of the Wizard of Oz saying "Pay No Attention To The Man Behind The Curtain, I AM THE WIZARD OF OZ". Pulling back the curtain on the Repubs just shows a mean spirited, beholden to BIG Money lying group of corporate apologists angry that there is a Black Man in the Office of The President and whining that they no longer have all of the levers of Government in their control.
V.P. Biden is totally correct in that they are going to be greatly surprised come November when No One except their extreme far right base votes for them. America is onto their game, and we DO NOT LIKE IT ONE BIT!!
Mr. Roach, with all due respect, your memory of the recession must be short. This recession began in mid 2007. The GOP controlled congress from '94 through 2006. The recession was directly due to the reckless management of the Republican party in Congress and the White House over that period. The GOP likes to run on fiscal responsibilty but they govern and spend money like a child in a candy store. I don't have to remind you that the GOP had a record 247 billion dollar surplus when they took control in 2001 and of the EGTRRA (Economic Growth and Tax Relief Reconciliation Act of 2001) and JGTRRA (Job and Growth Tax Reflief Reconciliation Act of 2003) (or commonly called the BUSH tax cuts) which cost 3.5 trillion dollars, two wars not paid for and not included in the budget (you know Republicans way of accounting), and on and on. Oh, that's right to quote Mr. Kyl, "you don't raise taxes to cut taxes." The GOP thinks tax cuts are free because they are mathematically and intellectually challenged.
With respect to your comment on becoming the next "Spain," it's not comparable. It's like saying is the state of Alabama went bankrupt our entire country would. With respect sir, I believe you watch too much FOX News.
There's no doubt we need to address deficit concerns but not now. We have to recover the damage the GOP has caused and then take a hard look at our deficit and yes, cut Defense spending, and look at entitlements, we agree the deficit is a long term issue which must be addressed. It's likely we cannot have a serious debate about the issue because the GOP refuses to cut defense spending. We should not even begin the conversation until the Republican party agrees that all options are on the table even defense spending.
Regarding Small Business, both parties agree that Small Business is the engine of the economy. What both parties differ on is where the jobs should actually be created. The Democratic Party believes jobs should be created here in the United States. The GOP believes jobs should be sent oversees, you're right to China and India. They talk a good game but fortunately, we have the evidence to prove what happens to jobs when our executive and legislative branches are controled by the Republican party. We created 22 million jobs and a record surplus under President William Jefferson Clinton and just 3 million under George W. Bush. The record is clear on this sir.
I apologize if I sound a little harsh but it frustrates me when I hear people spewing the Republican talking points promoted on Fox News like the oil gushing out of the Gulf of Mexico.
Yes, Dems took control in January 2007. In the Senate, it was almost a 50-50 split. One little problem with your thought, Bush threatened to veto any significant changes democrats wanted and Senate dems did not have enough votes to change the GOP agenda. Remember the debates on the Iraq War funding, the GOP always got their way.
As for your comment that democrats are getting the money from big business, you missed the news report that said big business has cut contributions to democrats tremendously. The republicans have always received more big business campaign dollars than dems. That's just a fact.
Because not like the Republicans... They tried to work with Bush!!! We would have been better off if they said no to Bush rather than have the Republicans say no to Obama!!!
Jody:
You're flat out wrong. The man said BIG BUSINESS not WALL STREET. The Democrats do receive more donations from BIG BUSINESS.
CW:
As far as that talking point of job creations. Most of those jobs were DOT.COM jobs. Where are they now? Clinton had the benefit of split government. He had the benefit of the Internet start-up. He didn't have to combat 24/7 news and opinion shows, he cut the military in half, he benefitted from Reagan's tax policies coming to fruition.
When Bush became POTUS it was a PROJECTED BUDGET SURPLUS. It was not money on the table that you could see. Do you not think if we had a Democratic controlled Congress during Bush, they would not have spent any money available? That is what Congress does.....spend money.
Don't forget, one of the main reasons President Clinton accumulated a surplus - or projected surplus, was due to the implementation of the Roth IRA. Huge tax revenues came in when hundreds of thousands converted their deferred IRA accounts to the Roth.
Who created the Roth IRA? William Roth (R-DE). So you might give a little credit for the Clinton surplus to a Republican.
Keith, I agree on your Premise that American's lifestyles have changed. How much would that Lifestyle have changed Without the Stimulus? Chaos in the Street's, no Doubt! It's also true that American's are living longer & policy's enacted should take that into account. As for HCR, i agree with you that our Elected officials should havta be in the same policy groups that most american's are in.
Having Direct TV, i don't get MTP until 11 AM, so i don't know what happened. I can almost guess that David threw some softball questions to the GOP & continuously Interrupted Democrats as they tried to answer questions. It's his nature & he does'nt understand why his rating's are in a Downward spiral.
You Betcha!
Morning everyone!
I haven't watched MTP is a LONG time - but made the exception this morning as I didn't want to listen to Jake Tapper pounding away @ Joe Biden!
Nice to see nothing has changed with Gotcha Gregory - if he actually listened to what his guests are saying and let them DEBATE the question, the show might be tolerable!
Instead he's constantly interrupting and in 'let's move along' mode hoping to trip someone up! Gregory is an embarrasment to an otherwise fine line up @ NBC/MSNBC and needs to GO!
Over all I'm glad I did tune in as VanHolland & Mendendez 'schooled' Cronyn & Sessions BIG TIME! Cronyn looked at times like his head was about to explode (which made it worth the price of admission alone). lol
Even with the softballs Gotcha was lobbing their way they came across and a couple of tired old parrots with ZERO ideas of how to lead this country forward.
We Democrats must keep playing offense and expose this right wing nuts for being void of any ideas...
Here I go again, Disagreeing with my friend Feisty(LOL). I was surprised that David did'nt let Cornyn or Sessions get away with talking Points. He actually interupted them & asked for Specifics & they had NONE!
Sessions saying a 40 seat gain for GOP is a Fairy Tale !
Have a nice day My Friend!
WOW Rick... I'm batting a thousand this week! lol
I saw Gotcha go after them - but it was only because he smelled blood in the water!
It's the only style he knows.
My question is WHY doesn't he allow a 'back & forth' amongst his guests?
Maybe because the MORE the right wingers talk the worse they look!
I know we agree that neither of them came the least bit prepared...
You & Miss Daisy have a fine day to my friend - I'm gonna be grilling later and thinking about ya!
Hi Feisty,
Actually Jake didn’t give Joe too hard of a time. He left that up to George Will and Nicole Wallace during the round table.
The Republicans keep up with Their lies and blaming so that People don't know how bad they really are!!!
Thanks Dennis!
I sure miss George...
Feisty, cheeseburger for me. Mustard, ketchup, lettuce, tomato. Red potato salad. A few Bud Lites, and I'm good. Enjoy your Sunday afternoon. (wink)
btw, when you have us all over for a cook-out next summer, I'll bring the New England clam chowder. Deal?
If I understand it, Christine Amanpour will be hosting on ABC soon, haven't caught the date. I hope she stays true to her other reporting. If so, no one will get away with much.
Sounds like a plan Pat!
I have to say you haven't had good potato salad until you've tried mine (and yes I use red new potato's). lol No matter how much I make it's NEVER enough!
I love me some New England Clam Chowder so it a deal! NewDay is known for her home grown Salsa so I bet if we asked real nice she'd bring some! ;0)
And rumor has it Jody makes some 'wicked' deviled eggs!
Fiesty:
Nobody got schooled. You always think someone is schooling somebody.
They ALL stayed on their talking points. Van Hollen hasn't said anything original in a year. He repeat the same BS over and over again.
What's the matter ITM... your undisclosed bunker flood or something! Or do you only come out at night?
You are an ANGRY ANGRY man... and your wife has my sympathies!
For some reason... you feel it necessary to snipe at me on a regular basis...
It is nice however, that I seem to get under that thin skin of yours!
Must mean I'm doing the correct thing! Do have a blessed evening...
And in the name of full disclosure - IT was YOU who coined the phrase schooling someone... truth hurts doesn't it? Your credilbilty has been shot to sh!t time and time again and you are nothing more than an delusional LIAR!
All in all I guess it begs the bigger question and that would be who the F**k was talking to you?
One more thing there ITM....
So far you have claimed to be ex-military (yet still got your mitts in the meat grinder) - then you say you're a IT Expert... and lastly you claim to be an owner of a BBQ shack... so what is it YOU really do?
Cause right now you come across as a BOLD FACED liar??
We Democrats are paying attention and you can hood wink some of the people some of the time... and well... you know the rest (if not just ask and I'll fill in the blanks for you dumbsh!t)!
First of all lady, I have never said I was an IT expert; it doesn't take a genious to run an IP address locator program.
My family owns 3 Bar-B-Que RESTAURANTS, not a damn shack.
You come across as a damn fool that thinks she knows everything and don't know sh!t. Your one of those liberals who think your sh!t don't stink.
I could care less what democraps pay attention to.
Don't hate because I'm not your stereotypical blackman. I'm not just another dumb azz n...r that you can lead around like a stray animal. This is what you think....I know, it's in your blood.
You had better find another playtoy because I am not the one. You're barking up the wrong tree.
Now go clean that piss off of the counter tops in that zoo you live in.
ITM,
You need to get over your OWN racism and stop thinking that the rest of the US thinks a Black man is a N.....! We are not like your average Texan or Southerner that way, we do NOT think of you that way, we find them crass and crude! Your blind hate is despicable and it shows you to have a very narrow mind and a tinier heart where your fellow man is concerned. Get over it and quit insulting our intelligence, just because somebody, or a lot of somebodies there in Texas treat you wrong does not give you the right to treat the rest of us that way. Remember, treat everyone as you, yourself, would like to be treated. Apparently all you want is hate, because that is all you know and that is all you show!
Grow up man, you belittle yourself with your hate and it is embarrassing to see in a grown man!!
B Honest:
You're stepping into a conversation that does not involve you. I'm a racist..lol.....What the hell do living in Texas or being southern have to do with anything. There are just as many racist and bigots in the northeast and west as there are in the south. I do not like that woman and nothing she stands for. She has constantly disrespected anyone in here that do not bow to her narrow azz political philosophy. You are fairly new to this blog so I will give you a bigger strike zone.
If you don't like what I'm spittin', then keep it movin'. You do not have to engage in any conversation with me and that is fine, but when you step to me, come correct. I will put you on blast no matter who you are. Liberals tend to think everything a Republican says is wrong and azz-backwards. You belittle your arguement when you say RICH REPUBLICANS. If they were all so dumb and stupid, none would be successful.
Grow up...lol.....I was humping the bush while you were still on t....y milk.
You guys just can't handle someone that will shove your BS back at you. I can hold my own on here even if it is 98% liberal.
ITM,
I am actually older than you are Bro, I served in 81-84, during Reagan's military build up, you did not serve until the late 90's. You are tossing your comments on a PUBLIC blog, anything you say is fair game to the rest of us, deal with it.
There are a LOT more racists down South and in Texas, we got a lot folks from Down South that moved into Oregon and they were amazed that the racism that they saw daily in the South was nonexistent there. Get a clue Bro. Your comments are inherently racist, they way you seem to think that all of us Progressives think you are a (in your own words) a Dumb Azz N....r. If you really think that then you need to take a break from this page and find some psych care for anger management, it might help you and your family immensely!
I have been on this blog since the Obama Campaign started, I took a break for a while on posting, but continued to read it anyways.
As far as not getting along with Conservatives, Candice and I have had some great conversations, very civil and while we disagree on many points, there are many on which we DO agree. There are a few others that can post without being rude, but they are by far in the minority from the Right, too many just spout the Faux Neuz and Used Teabaggers talking points without doing any real research to back it up, they get shot down in flames here regularly, like You do!
What I do not like about your posts is that you almost NEVER back up your opinions with fact but tend to just try to shoot people down, more often shooting yourself in the foot when ya shoot your mouth off. Hate does not look pretty, and you have shown That face too many times here to be taken seriously anymore!
Too many of those rich Repubs come from big money families and were GIVEN seats on boards as their first jobs, most of them have never had to do an honest day's labor and yet get paid piles of money for corner cutting. Yes, there are rich on the Left too, and I have a nearly equal distrust for them as well, but many of them are self-made rather than coming from family money. There are a small portion of the old family Monied folks, but most of those that come from the Rich side vote Repub.
I can certainly handle other's opinions, what I will work to shoot down are those that only post hate and discontentment along with lies and disinformation. If You cannot handle that then I recommend that you go over to Faux Neuz and post there, you will find a lot more dittoheads and Beckerheads to agree with your rants!
B Honest:
You are no better than anyone else. You can't even respond to a post without throwing in the little nicknames (teabaggers, Faux Neuz, beckerheads). This is the reason the right comes at you so strong. I've been to Oregon and I found a lot of necks up there too.
Dude I do not spew hate. If you think that I am going to accept being disrespected only on the basis of being a black republican, then you definately as we say in the hood (got me F'ed up).
There are a lot of rich Democrats that come from the same family environment you so attribute to only Republicans. Show me a poor azz Democrat in Congress since we are on a political board.
I can show you a ton of democrats to whom made their fortunes off of the backs poor people. That is just an asinine statement as to saying most democrats are self-made. I ddin't come from a rich family but I came from a family that taught us how to get off of our azzez and work.
I have a lot to show from the fruits of my upbringing.
OPINIONS are OPINIONS. That is all everyone in here has. No one is privy to any sensitive information that we all have an opinion on.
BTW: I don't watch Fox nor MSNBC. You guys are the ones fascinated with Fox. No one talks about them but liberals.
Now go clean that piss off of the counter tops in that zoo you live in.
grow up...lol.....I was humping the bush while you were still on t....y milk.
Dude I do not spew hate.
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Move along folks... there's nothing to see... no hate here... lmfao!
You might try proof reading your rants before you hit submit!
And while you're at it... the pity party won't play... WHEN has anyone on this board put you down for being a black Repug?
We put you down because you are an ANGRY human being who brings nothing of value to the conversation. It's pure HATE out of you 24/7 - period!
Others here have tried reaching out to you and you don't have the common decency to respond with out your usual attack!
I know you didn't say I want a pity party.
I could care less of what you or anyone else on a blog think of me. No one in here pays any bills at my house. No one in here snores in my face at night nor do I smell anyone in here's morning breath.
You and your compadres can't PUT ME DOWN...lol...WTF...lady you can't fade me.
You haven't seen attack mode. Actually some told me to lay off of you but as they can see you keep trespassing.
David Gregory usually annoys me, but he is really grilling Cornyn and Sessions about what they would do if they get back in power. Every time they try to speak in talking points, Gregory asks for specifics. I like seeing those weasels squirm. LOL
Where were these Tea Partiers and hold the budge people, when Bush was giving unfunded tax breaks to the rich and getting us into 2 unfunded wars? I happen to agree with Biden on this one. November will be a big surprise for many people and forget the polls. The party of No is running strictly on a very small plank. Say no to anything the democrats propose even though many things they formally were voting yes for and blame immigrants for Americans financial problems.
All these polls are doing one thing. Getting democrats energized. We don't want to go back to 8 years of republican rule again that got us into this mess in the first place.
Good question often asked. My view, the Tea Partiers do not care one bit about deficit spending, they simply care they are not in charge.
No, Jody, Tea Partiers like myself care completely about deficit spending, and are sick of defense spending and entitlement spending. Don't confuse us with the GOP. The Tea Party didn't exist in 2007, so don't blame us.
The only reason the Tea Party are here today is because Obama is a African American!!! They are nothing but a bunch of Hillbillies!!!
Why do the tea baggers want to control the guvment when they HATE it so much?
The right wing nuts fight like hell to gain control and when they get it prove over & over they SUCK at Governing!
Uh OH, lmk02, you've messedup. In this world of Political correctness, we're No longer HillBillys(which i'm one), we are Appalachian American's.
LOL
The Tea Party doesn't want a government, does it? I wonder, what do they want to replace it with?
Yes fazsha, you are correct. They did not exist in 2007, they only came into the existence when the republicans became very unpopular in this country and they promised to re brand themselves. Like lmko2 they are here today for one reason only, the election of a person of color to the presidency. They were silent like mummys when the republicans were spending zillions on defense spending and a war that we did not need.
That's why their war cry is "we have to take back our country". But it's not their country it belongs to all of us, democrats, republicans, independents and even those not interested in politics.
fazsha. You are the exception. There may be a few more. Still, I must ask why no republicans, like you, and who felt the way you do organized the Tea Party years ago when the GOP Congress and Bush were on their unfunded spending sprees--it went on 8 years.
Mr. Cornyn, a Republican talking point machine.
Obama and the Democrats are nothing but a bunch of liars. The Repubs are willing to extend ui benefits, ad provide breaks for small businesses. However, they want it paid for, a concept the Democrats have no clue about. The Dems would add billions, hell trillions more, as many are now clamoring for, to add to our already disastrous debt. Why isn't the lamestream media exposing Obama's lies? This piece of socialist garbage's primary economic stimulus program is unemployment, in his own words: "unemployment insurance is one of the most cost-effective ways to jump-start the economy because it puts money in the pockets of people who are likely to spend it quickly."
Republicans as the party of fiscal responsibility and financial restraint? You must be joking. Don't look at what Republicans say, look at what they do. Reagan, Bush Sr. and Bush Jr. all advocated for and signed into law massive deficit increases. The last US President who oversaw a balanced budget was Clinton.
Also, contrary to the talking points, the economy boomed during the Clinton years in spite of the fact that saw taxes went up over that time period. Cutting taxes is not the answer to every question.
Yeah, thats why the GOP ran like scalded dog's, when PayGo came up!Milcon, you need New talking Points, because those are Lame!
You Betcha!
LOL<LOL>LOL Thanks for a good Laugh... I never heard such a good joke in my life!!! The Republicans wouldn't know the truth even if it bite them... They rather listen to Foxs lies than the truth!!!
I don't think Mr. Cornyn has any idea what he's talking about. He's way out of his league in this debate. He just embarrassed himself. The Grand Old Party of the past. Back to the same agenda that got us in this mess. Moratorium on regulations, repeal health care reform, repeal financial regulatory reform, eliminate social security and medicare, extend the Bush tax cuts for the rich adding 2.5 trillion to the deficit from 2010-2019.
Sounds great doesn't it.
Why is Cornyn affraid to call out the tea party for being racist. Admit there are members of the tea party that are racist and denounce it. Why is that so hard?
Cornyn and the rest of the republican party are followers not leaders,they fall in line behind Beck,limbarf,dick army and the rest of the do nothing's.
Why do you think they don't want the Democratic Tax Cut!!! Because the Rich would have to pay more taxes than the Poor...
Cornyn "Tea Bagger's should not be demonized." Really, so do as they say not as they do, right. The Grand Obstructionist Party is outdoing themselves on MTP this morning.
"By their fruits you shall know them."
David Gregory is right biased by only interrupting Dem. participants and not challenging obvious GOP controversial talking points.
He does this repeatedly and with a s..t eating grin on his face. I give up on this show.
The Republicans had Their chance a blew it!!! Now the Democrats again has to clean up Their mess...
Very strict guidelines, no documentation is very strict guidelines. Forcing banks to make loans in depressed areas through community reinvestment act to people that had no financial means to pay. Just as we need well paid labor jobs, some people are not responsible enough to pay a mortgage payments and mortgage companies should be able to assess risks and then make loans based on their criteria.
GW Bush pushed through the PRIDE OF HOME OWNERSHIP and relaxed banking regulations to enable this. However, the lower or middle class is not the leading group in foreclosures.
Upper middle class, recipients of tax cuts, are the leading group in foreclosures today.
Jim
This subject matter is rather obviously too complicated for you to understand. Get informed or go away.
Jim Roach:
This lie MUST be put to death. NO ONE, NO LAW forced banks to make bad loans. The Community Reinvestment Act applied only to depository institutions, which at the time were making fewer than one-quarter of mortgages. There is NO language in the CRA, which forces banks to make loans - NONE.
You cannot show otherwise and you must stop spreading this lie.
As to "Meet the Press", both Republicans - Cornyn and Sessions - exhibited a degree of ignorance and/or cowardice that should shame them, but the tattered remnants of the once-proud G.O.P. have no shame. Truly, this is the party of NO; NO leadership, NO ideas, NO answers.
The Democrats WILL retain control of both houses of Congress.
Do you know that a much higher proportion of high income borrowers with large mortgage toss the keys back at the bank and put their homes into foreclosure than do those who get Fannie Mae backed mortgages?
Since when did this Country consider 200.000 the Middle Class??? What ever happen to those Middle Class that made 50,000 to 90,000 year??? They are now the Poor!!!
And the real truth be told about the mortgage problem is that the rules were not addressing people who were not qualified to get a mortgage. That little trick was invented by broker salesman looking for that comission.
The rules were started because banks were redlining and refusing to make loans to people of color who had the EXACT same financial qualifications but yet were denied loans. I am voting in November, You betcha!! I don't want to go back to making wars that are unfunded and giving rich people more tax breaks. I like health care reform. I don't want to pay backdoor to emergency rooms filled with people not there because they have an emergency but because they have no insurance!
Misstatements are allowed to go UNCHALLENGED by our press. HOW can voters be educated without an unbiased press?
I would love to see a new Sunday show... "Truth or Fiction" It would be awesome to show controvertial clips and then have them proven or disproven with facts... I'm thinking it would clean up a lot of the 'talking points' we hear on the airwaves today.
Now THAT would be 'must see TV'...
Lyn, KCMO: I agree. Politifact.com does just that online. Politifact should be made into a television show.
Anybody listening out there????
One question for the GOP - just one -
What have you done during this recession to help out Americans as they struggle night and day trying to find employment? WHAT HAVE YOU DONE to help them. Nothing.
You have all decided to just say no to everything that comes out of the White House. It's disgusting and you are nothing but cowards. Here you have had an opportunity to earn your paycheck, for once, and challenge yourselves to lift Americans up. Instead you stomp on them. Both Democrats and Republicans.
Try rolling up your sleeves. Talk to corporations. And instead of taking their money, work with them to get people employed again. No, that's too hard for you. It would mean you're selling out to corporations. And you wouldn't want that on your record now would you?
Best to just sell out American families all across this country. How about a new, strong stimulus? How about in the meantime, making sure they have unemployment benefits?
Yeah, right. Here's hoping you all become unemployment between now and 2012. Because if anyone deserves to be, it's the GOP.
That is because if Obama fixes the problem like Clinton did... It would only show how incompliment the Republican really were!!!
My first attempt to respond to MTP online. Didn't realize there were so many of us who see DG with his own agenda. Finally put some specifics to the R today!
I don't know much about all that fancy lingo the repubs are using to answer the questions, but one thing I do know is they are not answering the questions. Common people are tired of hearing these bloated answers that amount to nothing. I like the way he called out the repubs, answer the question!!!!!! They will pull healthcare, what do they care! They dont have to worry about healthcare. The problem here is that they point out what they think does not work but have no solution themselves. Great work Mr. Gregory!!! Make them answer the questions truthfully. I wish I knew as much as you do and don't let them beat around the bush.
That is exactly what the Republican don't want is for the People to beat around the mess Bush made in the first place!!!
I watch all the Sunday shows along with 6-8 of news daily and what I don`t see are facts except on C-Span. The last budget deficit with the Repubs with control of House,Senate and White House was 161 billion and the last deficit with the Dems was 1.42 trillion. How about David lets try to be like Tim and call each guest not just the Repubs. He is watching and is disappointed.
While those may be "facts", your failure to mention the time frames and circumstances which played a role in those deficits is more enlightening. Mother@!%#wit.
That is if the Democrats didn't spend the money we be in a depression right now... It isn't cheap to finish two wars the right way and fix the problems Bush Jr left us without spending money!!! All the Republican have to do to help... Is allow Obama to raise taxes on the 2 percent and lower taxes on the rest and the cost of spending would be cut!!!
John, Here is the breakdown of the 2010 deficit (dollars in trillions) per the CBO.
$0.15 - The 2 wars
$0.45 - Bush 2 tax cuts
$0.30 - Obama Stimulus
$0.10 - TARP
$0.40 - The Recession - Started in 07
$1.40 – TOTAL
I'm in Texas, mis-represented by Senator Cornyn, and I'm in Pete Sessions' district. Those two clowns do not speak for me!
Of course, with Sessions' notoriously vague, rambling sentence structure, it's hard to tell exactly what he's saying, but--as you saw today--he has absolutely zero in the way of ideas.
When Cornyn hears from constituents like me--which is more often than he admits--the aide on the other end of the phone line gets argumentative, and tries to tell us that what we're asking for (health care reform, Wall St. reform, any kind of reform!) is not what's best for us, that Cornyn knows best.
I'm so sick of those two, and I hope elevating them to the top of the party exposes them for the idiots they are so we can get funding for campaigns against them! Vote Raggio in 2010!
I believe 'gauzy' was the word that best described Sessions. lmao
Thanks for your perspective Linda!
If the People would vote all the Republicans out of office... This whole Country would have been better off today!!!
Why is it always the name calling? Why can't it be I disagree with the democratic view without calling people, liars, socialists, anti-American etc.? That is what is really turning people away from the republican party.
All the republicans do is say no, no, no except for tax cuts to the rich that the middle class has to pay for.
That is because the Rich own the Republicans!!! Why else would they be the party of no to make this Country better???
I watch all the Sunday shows along with 6-8-of news daily and what I don`t see are the facts except on C-Span. The last budget deficit with the Repubs in control of the House,Senate and the White House was 161billion and the last deficit with the Dems was 1.42 trillion. How about David lets try to be like Tim and call each guest not just the Repubs. He is watching and is disappointed.
And you posted this drivel twice because?
And Tim Russert wasn't immune from playing favorites. When interviewing Cheney he asked him about Senator John Edwards. Cheney said, "I've never met the man." Tim knew that this was a lie, yet did not contradict Cheney's falsehood. Selective memory, selective facts, both dishonest activities.
I agree with DamienStarr, STOP WITH NEGATIVE CAMPAIGNING!!! Repubs come up with solutions that actually make sense. The problem isn't Obama, the problem was what came before him that brought us to this point.
If they make so much sense... Why is this Country in such a mess today??? Obama got it from them in the first place!!!
Dick Cheney: "Deficits don't matter." Your conservative magazine Weekly Standard agrees--check out this article from 2005, and tell us again about these Republican solutions that make so much sense.
"Do Deficits Matter?", Weekly Standard, February 15, 2005
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/005/245esggv.asp
I tend to have a quick-trigger on my remote watching MTP also.
I never understood til now Mark Heilprin's pre-2008 campaign allusion to "jabbering monkeys." My existential perception of the current political media-world is one great big national "reality show" with important (& very complicated) news events appearing over the horizon, remaining on the public stage for varying amounts of time while they become diluted, distorted and marginalized by a bunch of jabbering politicos, pundits and so-called "experts" (who usually have an agenda to prove) before these issues prematurely fade from view.
The Gulf crisis coverage - which has had its good and bad moments - has been marked by not enough sound scientific facts and too much hysterical handwringing. There's been too little focus on "what needs to be done/when."
Much of the fine print of economic, health care (and probably) energy reform tends not to surface until 6 mo. to 1 year after the fact (As a supporter of all three initiatives, I still must admit that they frequently contain unsettling "surprises" that surface later that I find embarrassing).
Back to the Gulf - All weekend, I've been wondering out loud: "Does BP gain revenue from the spilled oil it reclaims from the tankers. And, if so, would it not be in BP's best interests to declair the well "unkillable" (either via cap or relief-well) so they could continue to suck the oil up the lines to their tankers? Just wondering.
Back to MTP - My point is that all the sturm and drang about how each news event will impact the Nov. election is, by and large, Kabucki Theater - a giant tap-dance involving all the jabbering monkeys - and not real news we can use.
The Gulf problem is just another thing the Republicans forced on the American People!!!
SHAME, that politics has become a game of winners and losers, power and "control". We the people, died when Washington and Jefferson did? Now in the twenty-first century this country has lost its true calling. The notion of working together, would that be out of the question? There are some real life issues that could be resolved.
I generally approve of Mr. Gregory, but today he failed to get either side off their talking points. I had to stop watching halfway through because no one was saying anything that wasn't on their notecards when they walked in.
I understand the time constraints with 4 guests, but if you don't challenge them often enough, the whole business is worthless.