How Democrats get to 60 on Wall Street reform


As you know, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid will need 60 votes to break a Republican filibuster and pass the financial regulatory reform bill.

Let's tally the likely votes, shall we:
-- Current number in the Senate Democratic caucus: 58
-- Number of Democrats expected to vote against final regulation: 1 (Russ Feingold)
-- That drops number to 57

-- GOP Sen. Susan Collins is "inclined" to support bill
-- That brings the number back up to 58
-- GOP Sen. Scott Brown says today he "expects" to support bill
-- That brings the number up to 59
-- GOP Sen. Olympia Snowe told Reuters on Saturday that she's "still looking at it"

-- That would/could push it to 60... OR
-- If/when West Virginia Gov. Manchin appoints Byrd's replacement that would be 60 (without Snowe's support)

Note: Democratic Sen. Maria Cantwell voted against financial reform when it passed the Senate in May, but after some fixes in the final version she announced her support.

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GOP Sen. Olympia Snowe told Reuters on Saturday that she's "still looking at it". ha-ha slowly I'll bet.

Come on Snowe get going. You had your moments and the attention of the whole nation during healthcare. Time's a wasting for the "deficit peacocks" who like to preen and call attention to themselves who are not sincerely interested in taking the difficult but necessary steps toward a balanced budget. Come on Snowe . Mathematically, you and the Governor can make the deficit smaller. Brown did and so can you. But you can't make revenues smaller by not voting for financial reform. Remember, nothing in means nothing out. Certainly, now is the time for a deficit peacock to make the deficit smaller.

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Reply#1 - Mon Jul 12, 2010 1:57 PM EDT

Well said Beverley. I am so sick and tired of senators pretending to give a fig. Either say you will vote yes, spit out what you want in return for your yes vote, or just say you are going to vote no. Just stop playing political games. The American public are fed up with the lot of you as it is.

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#1.1 - Mon Jul 12, 2010 2:23 PM EDT
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Any "financial reform" bill that doesn't address Chris Dodd's and Barney Frank's love children, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, is nothing but a bad political joke and does not deserve to pass. And the joke is on the U. S. taxpayers: current estimates of the amount of taxpayer dollars that will be flushed down these two toilets range from $400 billion to $1 trillion. Nice going, Chris and Barney.

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#2 - Mon Jul 12, 2010 2:15 PM EDT

The Real Story About Fannie Mae that know one wants to talk about. How gullible people in this country are. It's why we're in the trouble we're in. Americans - so overrated insofar as intelligence and telling the truth goes.

Private sector loans, not Fannie or Freddie, triggered crisis

David Goldstein and Kevin G. Hall | McClatchy Newspapers
last updated: November 24, 2009 07:57:12 AM

WASHINGTON — As the economy worsens and Election Day approaches, a conservative campaign that blames the global financial crisis on a government push to make housing more affordable to lower-class Americans has taken off on talk radio and e-mail.

Commentators say that's what triggered the stock market meltdown and the freeze on credit. They've specifically targeted the mortgage finance giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, which the federal government seized on Sept. 6, contending that lending to poor and minority Americans caused Fannie's and Freddie's financial problems.

Federal housing data reveal that the charges aren't true, and that the private sector, not the government or government-backed companies, was behind the soaring subprime lending at the core of the crisis.

Subprime lending offered high-cost loans to the weakest borrowers during the housing boom that lasted from 2001 to 2007. Subprime lending was at its height from 2004 to 2006.

Federal Reserve Board data show that:

•More than 84 percent of the subprime mortgages in 2006 were issued by private lending institutions.

•Private firms made nearly 83 percent of the subprime loans to low- and moderate-income borrowers that year.

•Only one of the top 25 subprime lenders in 2006 was directly subject to the housing law that's being lambasted by conservative critics.

The "turmoil in financial markets clearly was triggered by a dramatic weakening of underwriting standards for U.S. subprime mortgages, beginning in late 2004 and extending into 2007," the President's Working Group on Financial Markets reported Friday.

Conservative critics claim that the Clinton administration pushed Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to make home ownership more available to riskier borrowers with little concern for their ability to pay the mortgages.

"I don't remember a clarion call that said Fannie and Freddie are a disaster. Loaning to minorities and risky folks is a disaster," said Neil Cavuto of Fox News.

Fannie, the Federal National Mortgage Association, and Freddie, the Federal Home Loan Mortgage Corp., don't lend money, to minorities or anyone else, however. They purchase loans from the private lenders who actually underwrite the loans.

It's a process called securitization, and by passing on the loans, banks have more capital on hand so they can lend even more.

This much is true. In an effort to promote affordable home ownership for minorities and rural whites, the Department of Housing and Urban Development set targets for Fannie and Freddie in 1992 to purchase low-income loans for sale into the secondary market that eventually reached this number: 52 percent of loans given to low-to moderate-income families.

To be sure, encouraging lower-income Americans to become homeowners gave unsophisticated borrowers and unscrupulous lenders and mortgage brokers more chances to turn dreams of homeownership in nightmares.

But these loans, and those to low- and moderate-income families represent a small portion of overall lending. And at the height of the housing boom in 2005 and 2006, Republicans and their party's standard bearer, President Bush, didn't criticize any sort of lending, frequently boasting that they were presiding over the highest-ever rates of U.S. homeownership.

Between 2004 and 2006, when subprime lending was exploding, Fannie and Freddie went from holding a high of 48 percent of the subprime loans that were sold into the secondary market to holding about 24 percent, according to data from Inside Mortgage Finance, a specialty publication. One reason is that Fannie and Freddie were subject to tougher standards than many of the unregulated players in the private sector who weakened lending standards, most of whom have gone bankrupt or are now in deep trouble.

During those same explosive three years, private investment banks — not Fannie and Freddie — dominated the mortgage loans that were packaged and sold into the secondary mortgage market. In 2005 and 2006, the private sector securitized almost two thirds of all U.S. mortgages, supplanting Fannie and Freddie, according to a number of specialty publications that track this data.

In 1999, the year many critics charge that the Clinton administration pressured Fannie and Freddie, the private sector sold into the secondary market just 18 percent of all mortgages.

Fueled by low interest rates and cheap credit, home prices between 2001 and 2007 galloped beyond anything ever seen, and that fueled demand for mortgage-backed securities, the technical term for mortgages that are sold to a company, usually an investment bank, which then pools and sells them into the secondary mortgage market.

About 70 percent of all U.S. mortgages are in this secondary mortgage market, according to the Federal Reserve.

Conservative critics also blame the subprime lending mess on the Community Reinvestment Act, a 31-year-old law aimed at freeing credit for underserved neighborhoods.

Congress created the CRA in 1977 to reverse years of redlining and other restrictive banking practices that locked the poor, and especially minorities, out of homeownership and the tax breaks and wealth creation it affords. The CRA requires federally regulated and insured financial institutions to show that they're lending and investing in their communities.

Conservative columnist Charles Krauthammer wrote recently that while the goal of the CRA was admirable, "it led to tremendous pressure on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac — who in turn pressured banks and other lenders — to extend mortgages to people who were borrowing over their heads. That's called subprime lending. It lies at the root of our current calamity."

Fannie and Freddie, however, didn't pressure lenders to sell them more loans; they struggled to keep pace with their private sector competitors. In fact, their regulator, the Office of Federal Housing Enterprise Oversight, imposed new restrictions in 2006 that led to Fannie and Freddie losing even more market share in the booming subprime market.

What's more, only commercial banks and thrifts must follow CRA rules. The investment banks don't, nor did the now-bankrupt non-bank lenders such as New Century Financial Corp. and Ameriquest that underwrote most of the subprime loans.

These private non-bank lenders enjoyed a regulatory gap, allowing them to be regulated by 50 different state banking supervisors instead of the federal government. And mortgage brokers, who also weren't subject to federal regulation or the CRA, originated most of the subprime loans.

In a speech last March, Janet Yellen, the president of the Federal Reserve Bank of San Francisco, debunked the notion that the push for affordable housing created today's problems.

"Most of the loans made by depository institutions examined under the CRA have not been higher-priced loans," she said. "The CRA has increased the volume of responsible lending to low- and moderate-income households."

In a book on the sub-prime lending collapse published in June 2007, the late Federal Reserve Governor Ed Gramlich wrote that only one-third of all CRA loans had interest rates high enough to be considered sub-prime and that to the pleasant surprise of commercial banks there were low default rates. Banks that participated in CRA lending had found, he wrote, "that this new lending is good business."

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#2.1 - Mon Jul 12, 2010 2:38 PM EDT


Pat, Boston, MA:

"Private sector loans, not Fannie or Freddie, triggered crisis"

If that were true, why are Fannie and Freddie in need of a minimum $400 billion taxpayer bailout that might end up costing $1 trillion?

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#2.2 - Mon Jul 12, 2010 2:48 PM EDT

Pat, Boston, MA

The Real Story About Fannie Mae that know one wants to talk about. How gullible people in this country are. It's why we're in the trouble we're in. Americans - so overrated insofar as intelligence and telling the truth goes.

Private sector loans, not Fannie or Freddie, triggered crisis

David Goldstein and Kevin G. Hall | McClatchy Newspapers
last updated: November 24, 2009 07:57:12 AM

Small wonder others have a differing opinion. The money quote from none other then Treasury Sec. Tim Geithner while under oath at a Senate hearing last year:

During Geithner’s Senate testimony, he admitted that both Fannie and Freddie played a central role in the financial crisis, telling Sen. David Vitter (R-La.) that the two government-sponsored enterprises (GSE) were a “core part” of the country’s financial woes.

“Absolutely,” Geithner said. “Fannie and Freddie were a core part of what went wrong in our system.”

The entire article can be read at http://www.cnsnews.com/public/content/article.aspx?RsrcID=49791

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#2.3 - Mon Jul 12, 2010 2:51 PM EDT

Great Post !

I am so tired of people just parroting whatever they hear 'the talking heads' say during prime time. So the government wanted more Americans to buy homes?

That doesn't mean you no longer check and verify credit worthiness does it? Did the government make the 'interest-only' home loan? No - it is was the banks and other industries that came up with all these fancy ways to essentially sell something for nothing. They then packaged all the loans together and sold them to any and everyone across the world ( not just Freddie and Fannie ).

Loan buyers all either assumed the loans were good or re-sold them ASAP.

What a mess! You and I deal with the exact same thing on a micro-level anytime we buy a car. The salesrep always has a great way to get you into the car you want but can't afford. Perhaps we should blame the government for anyone feeling financial pain caused by the cash-for-clunkers program.

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#2.4 - Mon Jul 12, 2010 2:54 PM EDT

Terrific post, Pat.

Republicans like to blame Dodd and Franks but forget who was in charge of Congress from 1995 through 2006--Dodd and Franks were MINIORITY members of the finance committees. Barnie Franks has said that he tried to get republicans on board to fix the Fannie and Freddie problem but, just like fixing problems today, they said NO.

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#2.5 - Mon Jul 12, 2010 4:03 PM EDT

What TRIGGERED the crisis and what was effected by the crisis are two different things, Joe. Learn to listen, listen to learn. Did anyone go out and destroy all the houses on which these sub-prime mortgages were issued? Let's not blame the victims, let's examine how they and we were made the victims of this scam the MSM calls the "housing crisis".

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#2.6 - Mon Jul 12, 2010 4:06 PM EDT

So because Pat read it in an article it must be true? If there was no Fannie and Freddie to back up the bad loans, they would never have been made in the first place.

But let's pretend everything that was said in the article Pat posted - and I cannot tell if that's all the article or Pat's commentarty, the simple fact is Fannie and Freddie are losing enormous amounts of money every day. If it is so very important to take the FINREG, why omit Fannie and Freddie?

Pat, are you saying they are fine and do not need fixing? Sorry, is that what Goldstien and Hall are saying? And what is their background. I sure hope fro credability purposes they are more than reporters.

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#2.7 - Mon Jul 12, 2010 4:25 PM EDT

Joanna - Thanks for the link, the article made for interesting reading. One thing I like to do is find out about the site after reading the article. CNS makes no secret that they are providing what they call 'balance' to what they perceive as other media bias. And we have all come to know that the new definition of 'balance' is 'bias in another direction.' Be that as it may, it is offered only as a caution to read with skepticism. For instance, the phrase "were a core part" undoubtedly has context that is conveniently omitted. It would be helpful to read the whole paragraph that surrounded that statement to see if it expanded the apparent meaning. The article also makes the claim that Fannie/Freddie at one time controlled almost half of the sub-prime mortgage market. Now if I hadn't read the article that Pat posted I wouldn't have known that the high point was in 2004, and that by the time the sub prime mortgage fueled debacle started to really kick in Fannie/Freddie's share was closer to a quarter. So, this article seems very selective in actual information used and clearly slanted to support a point of view

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#2.8 - Mon Jul 12, 2010 4:28 PM EDT

Ron - Atlanta

Joanna - Thanks for the link, the article made for interesting reading. One thing I like to do is find out about the site after reading the article. CNS makes no secret that they are providing what they call 'balance' to what they perceive as other media bias. And we have all come to know that the new definition of 'balance' is 'bias in another direction.' Be that as it may, it is offered only as a caution to read with skepticism. For instance, the phrase "were a core part" undoubtedly has context that is conveniently omitted. It would be helpful to read the whole paragraph that surrounded that statement to see if it expanded the apparent meaning. The article also makes the claim that Fannie/Freddie at one time controlled almost half of the sub-prime mortgage market. Now if I hadn't read the article that Pat posted I wouldn't have known that the high point was in 2004, and that by the time the sub prime mortgage fueled debacle started to really kick in Fannie/Freddie's share was closer to a quarter. So, this article seems very selective in actual information used and clearly slanted to support a point of view

I suggest you do your own research using multiple sources. I just quoted one that pertained to issue being discussed. Fannie and Freddie, in my opinion, were central to collapse of the housing industry that lead to the recession. Any so-called "Comprehensive reform" that is being discussed in Washington DC that does not include Fannie and Freddie is not comprehensive and does nothing to address the core issues to the problem.

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#2.9 - Mon Jul 12, 2010 4:44 PM EDT

Pat, Boston, MA

Bravo Madam, Bravo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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#2.10 - Mon Jul 12, 2010 4:57 PM EDT

Yeah, my questions were mainly rhetorical. I have researched this from multiple sources and it is clear to me that Fannie/Freddie, while not without some issues, are mainly convenient scapegoats for those whose knee jerk reaction is 'government always bad, private business always good." Once the unregulated lenders discovered that there was money to be made in sub-prime mortgages they created or found lots of places to write them and sell them, lots of ways to bundle the risk and make even more money.

My experience in business and with business is that if there is a regulation you find onerous or a requirement that is obstructive you do the minimum necessary to operate within the regulation or to meet the requirements. If the regulatory environment regarding sub-prime loans would have been so bad for these institutions or if their profits would have been adversely effected, there would have been a whole lot less of it going on. They may have discovered that they could make some money by selling loans to Fanny and Freddie, but once they caught on to the concept there was no stopping them from expanding on it until their roofs started caving in.

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#2.11 - Mon Jul 12, 2010 5:04 PM EDT

Ron - Atlanta

Yeah, my questions were mainly rhetorical. I have researched this from multiple sources and it is clear to me that Fannie/Freddie, while not without some issues, are mainly convenient scapegoats for those whose knee jerk reaction is 'government always bad, private business always good."

I don't think anyone is saying that, there are multiple reasons the banks, Fannie&Freddie, and the rating agencies like Morningstar caused the housing market to collapse. But to say that Fannie and Freddie were immune from this responsibility is absurd. They were central to the problem. The job of Fannie and Freddie was to create a secondary mortgage market by purchasing the mortgages from the bank lenders. This freed up capital for the lenders to make even more loans. Fannie and Freddie purchased these poorly backed loans, they should have known better. It was Fannie and Freddie's job to know what they were purchasing, but yet they let it slide. Now Fannie and Freddie are exempt from this so-called "Reform" being proposed in Congress. Without acknowledging that Fannie and Freddie played a central role in the system tanking, this is really no reform at all.

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#2.12 - Mon Jul 12, 2010 5:36 PM EDT

Pat in Boston is RIGHT, Joe in Albany.

You sound like a Wall Street lapdog. What has Wall Street done for you lately? You must have some connection. You certainly can't be Main Street.

Don't you get sick of always blaming the underdog for everything?

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#2.13 - Mon Jul 12, 2010 11:23 PM EDT

All of the people saying Fannie and Freddie were not part of the problem, also don't seem to have ANY explanation of why they need a taxpayer BAILOUT of between $400 billion and $1 trillion.

FAR MORE than any evil Wall Street bank or AIG.

Sorry, folks, I'm one of those people that believes where there's smoke there's fire.

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#2.14 - Tue Jul 13, 2010 8:28 AM EDT

Perhaps they are undercapitalized because their portfolios all lost value when the entire market imploded, just like World Trade Center 7.

You can be current on your mortgage and still watch its value drop when all around you are underwater or in default. The value of the debt paper Fannie and Freddie were holding should be no different.

    #2.15 - Tue Jul 13, 2010 4:00 PM EDT
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    Ramboet

    If only more people would express their disdain of this political posturing in their votes; more could get done. This what should make the people angry when politicians delay the business of the people.

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    Reply#3 - Mon Jul 12, 2010 2:30 PM EDT

    Psssst, wingnuts:

    The highest rates of default are in home loans exceeding $1 million. This looks like another classic example of the elites telling us to do what they say, not what they do.

    http://www.abajournal.com/news/article/mortgage_default_rates_highest_among_the_rich/

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    Reply#4 - Mon Jul 12, 2010 3:13 PM EDT

    I'm not one to hesitate laying part of the blame for the economic crises on predatory lenders, but part of the blame also has to be applied to many Americans who signed their name on that dotted line and thereby over-extended themselves. The handwriting as to the U.S. over-indulging and over-extending itself has been clearly visible on the wall for years now, not to mention the ever increasing numbers of people living on plastic. The most recent American economic boon was a condtion built on very thin ice, and anyone with some intelligence and a tad of gut feeling would have seen that it could not last, especially given the upsurge in global competition that included cheap labor and lower product costs. My feeling is although there will be economic recovery in time, it is going to be a very slow process, and even once achieved it is going to look much different than those good years of the past.

    An interesting bit of information. Read over the weekend how the largest number of mortgage defaults are now being processed against the wealthy. That many are defaulting on their million+ dollar homes, 2nd homes and vacation homes because they simply do not want to pay for them any longer. They no longer see these homes as profitable investments so they are just simply returning them to the banks.

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    Reply#5 - Mon Jul 12, 2010 3:22 PM EDT

    All I can say is that they really need to make the math work. This bill can't stall any longer, it needs to pass. It's really only the beginning of what needs to be done. Goldman's already hiring again, expecting boom times to come back, because really this bill doesn't change their business enough. Goldman is such a prime example of what went wrong -- and it deserves to be the shining example of riskiness. After all, it was the prime example of success while everything was booming. But don't take my word for that -- read this brilliant piece on that by a former Goldman VP: http://www.newdeal20.org/2010/07/12/dont-let-goldman-be-goldman-14750/

      Reply#6 - Mon Jul 12, 2010 3:43 PM EDT

      Good for Scott Brown--he made up his own mind instead of Mitch McConnell make it up for him. Brown isn't so much a bipartisan as he is a realist--Massachusetts is progressive so he can't tow the GOP line and expect to be relected in 2012. He's smart enough to realize that most voters are angry at Wall Street and being seen as supporting the groups that brought this country to its knees is not wise. Still Brown reminds me of Lieberman, Nelson, Snowe--make demands and become a senate king.

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      Reply#7 - Mon Jul 12, 2010 4:16 PM EDT

      Say Jody:

      Can you imgaine trying to lead a classroom of 100 kids and anytime the class has to make a decision whether it has to do with lunch, recess, grading on a curve, whether 90 is equal to an A, what chapters to read next week, etc., that you first had to check with Lydia, Susan, Joe, Ben and now it seems Scott before you could decide anything.

      Now it may not be too bad if 4 or 5 kids out of that 100 took their turns and they all had the opportunity to have the final say as to how a class room policy (Bill) would be fashioned and whether or not it passed, but the fact that it is the same 4 or 5 kids (Lyida, Susan, Joe, Ben and now Scott) who make those deicisions, and therefore control the class room environment and agenda, has to be pretty darn frustrating to the teacher and the other students.

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      #7.1 - Mon Jul 12, 2010 4:29 PM EDT
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      Wall Street dictates what government does not the other way around. Sorry folks no one in D.C. represents you and I.

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      Reply#8 - Mon Jul 12, 2010 4:23 PM EDT

      --From the pages of the Republican/Conservatives' Cookbook--

      Ladies and Gentlemen, this is how you go about creating financial and ecological disasters, both natural AND man made, and how your actions can morally and ethically bankrupt your standings both at home and abroad, and I hope e'r'body's paying attention, because this is going to be a whirlwind cooking class.

      Take one well balanced budget that was in the the surplus of $1 trillon, from an OUT GOING Democratic President, and put in the hands of an IN COMING Republican President who won through a rigged election process. Instead of out sourcings the few jobs that Americans WON'T DO, send EVERYTHING overseas.

      Wantonly, and wastefully, give every body a stimulus check, EVEN THOUGH we didn't NEED IT. This is your appetizer.

      Allow terrorist to come in to our country, EVEN THOUGH you had ADVANCED WARNING, hi-jack 4 planes, and have them smash into symbols that represent our country's economic might and strength. Instead of going after the man who is responsible and hiding in Afghanistan, PURSUE a personal vendetta against a man, even though we had him under our thumb with a "No-Fly-Zone" and had NOTHING to do with 9/11, and invade said country and citizens. If possible, season, GREGARIOUSLY, with lie to U.N about them having "Weapons of Mass Destruction"; for a zestier, robust, zing, fabricate link between said country and the terrorist organization. Briskly whisk in "No Bid Contracts", "No Exit Strategy", photos of troops torturing Enemy Prisoners of War (EPWs), high U.S body count, and loss of credibility. Allow to simmer for seven years. To screw things up at home, completely ignore an ENTIRE population that has undergone a catastrophic natural disaster for one week.

      For the economy:

      On top of outsourcing every job from America, COMPLETELY DE-REGULATE Wall Street, the housing market, the banking industry, EPA (Don't worry, you'll see how that comes into play), the Big Boys (Auto, Business, Oil, Health Insurance (Again, don't worry, you see how this comes into play)) as well as bribe those officials that regulate said Big Boys. After being smoked, boiled, and barbecued, throw in infedelity and scandals, along with RNC's hypocritical banner of "Party of morals and family values".

      Chop up two major election losses (one mid term for the House and Senate, 2006; one Presidential Election in 2008), add one governor to quit mid-term, steep in Tea Party, blend in racial songs and epiteths, effigies, death threats and caricatures, "Death Panels" (See "Big Boys") and unsurly Conseravtive Talk show hosts and commentators and their network, along with one Token African American for the job of RNC Chairman; for best results, gingerly zest in gaffes, AS WELL as the unruly comments and actions of sitting and those seeking Republican votes for the House and Senate.

      Marinate in oil from destroyed oil rig in Gulf of Mexico, then transfer to oven, pre-heated by the fires of Arizona's Anti illegal Immigrants Law. Before serving in 17 days, moderately salt with the dust of an exploded coal mine in West Virginia.

      CAUTION: CONTENTS WILL BE HOT UNDER PRESSURE.

      HEALTH ADVISORY: UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES IS THIS DISH TO BE CONSUMED BY LIBERALS. MUST GET CONSERVATIVE TO TASTE TEST!!!!!

      Bon Apetit.

      Essayons (Let Us Try)!!!

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      Reply#9 - Mon Jul 12, 2010 7:03 PM EDT

      Almost forgot: Serve as a side dish to field-dressed moose; Garnish with hair of timberwolves shot from helicopter.

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      #9.1 - Tue Jul 13, 2010 12:44 AM EDT
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      Snowe needs to go

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      Reply#10 - Tue Jul 13, 2010 12:13 AM EDT

      Homes to begin with and are over priced..I know I build them.Double the price of what it costs to build.I have watched a show where people go out a buy a home and can't beleive the prices..College tuitions are sky rocketing and sports takes president over an education and the spend too much money on stadiums instead of keeping the price down and building more class rooms and hiring professors to teach. As far as Wall street goes it needs regulated so that something like Enron doesn't happen again and Ken Lay stayed one step ahead while cooking the books and it fianally caught up to them by making up companies that did not exist.

        Reply#11 - Tue Jul 13, 2010 9:27 AM EDT

        This Molson is for you Joe in Albany.

        Republican Talking Point Smackdown — Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae Are Not Responsible for the Meltdown
        September 28th, 2008 • Related • Filed Under

        Filed Under: National
        Tags: Bush's Fubar Economy

        By cassandra_m

        John McCain has been talking this bit of idiocy up ever since his call to fire the Chairman of the SEC landed like a dud. It has been taken up by the wingnut media for dissemination to their aggrieved and credulous constituencies. Let’s take a look at why this talking point is complete bull and why they think this is useful to them. This is going to be long (go get your cocktail now) — but unlike any wingnut talking point, there is plenty of data along the way here. We’ll start with this graph from Brad Delong:

        Frankly, this ought to be the end of the discussion. Using data from the Federal Reserve Board, you can see who was writing mortgages throughout the life of the housing bubble though the bubble bursting. And the conforming mortgages that Fannie and Freddie could acquire became a smaller part of the total mortgage market share starting in 2002, absolutely cratered (for a combination of reasons — market, political, structural (their accounting scandal) in 2004, 2005 and started ramping back up as the bubble began to pop. The giant spike at the end is when the Administration (aided and abetted by Congress) rejiggered the conforming limits of these GSEs to get them to take on jumbo loans in an impotent attempt to put their fingers in the dike.

        Fannie and Freddie have alot of problems (and have been repub targets for a long time — and not because of their problems, but that is another discussion) and as the housing markets get very hot, Fannie and Freddie acquired some bad habits in mortgage lending in trying to protect market share against the “innovative” ARMs that were being written at a fast pace. Fortunately for Fannie and Freddie, their charter restrictions keep them from acquiring too many toxic loans directly. Their charter restrictions didn’t keep them from investing fairly heavily into private label subprime and Alt-A securities, which is, of course, what has been blowing up.

        The required reading of the issues of Fannie and Freddie comes from Calculated Risk in a post that responds to a July column of Paul Krugman’s, but provides the best unintentional rebuttal of the McCain talking point (and I encourage you to read the whole thing):

        I think we can give Fannie and Freddie their due share of responsibility for the mess we’re in, while acknowledging that they were nowhere near the biggest culprits in the recent credit bubble. They may finance most of the home loans in America, but most of the home loans in America aren’t the problem; the problem is that very substantial slice of home loans that went outside the Fannie and Freddie box. But Krugman is right to focus on the fact that it was the regulatory and charter constraints of the GSEs that kept that box closed. In the schizoid reality of the GSEs, when they had their “shareholder-owned private company” hats on they did plenty of envelope-pushing. When they had their “affordable housing” hats on, they rationalized dubious theories of credit quality–like the fervent belief that low or no down payment can be fully offset by a pretty FICO score–to beef up their affordable housing goals, often at the expense not of the poor put-upon “private sector” but of FHA, whose traditional borrower pool they pretty thoroughly cherry-picked. Nonetheless, the immovable objects of the conforming loan limits and the charter limitation of taking only loans with a maximum LTV of 80% unless a well-capitalized mortgage insurer took the first loss position, plus all their other regulatory strictures, managed fairly well against the irresistible force of “innovation.” If there has ever been an argument for serious regulation of the mortgage markets, the GSEs are it.

        Fannie and Freddie certainly followed the market into higher risk loans, but were stopped from going full-bore into the subprime paper business by their charter and conforming loan limits. They were allowed, by the Government, to keep less capital on hand to offset risk. And they were woefully under supervised by their government regulators. And they (acting like an investment fund) acquired lots of private label MBS’ backed by toxic mortgages. Sound like any other banks in the news recently? In addition, they were found to be overstating their capital in the last round of accounting scandals. And while everyone knew that Freddie and Fannie were drowning, Bush and the Congress decided to just pile on:

        Congress and the administration both fell all over themselves to push the GSEs into jumbo markets they had at least managed to stay out of during the worst of the boom, cheerfully lifting their portfolio caps at the same time. How do you go on a stock-selling binge at the same time you have just become the official lender of last resort (along with FHA), handed the mandate to take out all those toxic ARMs with too-large loan balances into “safe” 30-year fixed that the borrowers in question still can’t afford?

        With me so far?

        The source of the claim that Fannie and Freddie were blown up by helping “poor people” may have come from their fired CEO, Richard Syron :the GSEs have been hit by a “100-year storm” in the housing market, accentuated by some higher-risk mortgages that they were forced to buy to meet government affordable-housing targets. But wrong. From the same Barron’s article:

        The latter contention is more than disingenuous. A substantial portion of Fannie’s and Freddie’s credit losses comes from $337 billion and $237 billion, respectively, of Alt-A mortgages that the agencies imprudently bought or guaranteed in recent years to boost their market share. These are mortgages for which little or no attempt was made to verify the borrowers’ income or net worth. The principal balances were much higher than those of mortgages typically made to low-income borrowers. In short, Alt-A mortgages were a hallmark of real-estate speculation in the ex-urbs of Las Vegas or Los Angeles, not predatory lending to low-income folks in the inner cities.

        Fannie and Freddie got caught by the many of the same issues that caught Lehman, Bear Stearns and the others queued up to fail — inadequate capitalization, lack of Federal oversight, mismanagement and a crashing housing market. Add to Fannie and Freddie’s story the mismanagement of funds and accounting fraud in an agency that helped launder overseas money into the US capital markets and you have an investment bank (it certainly acted like one) that the Fed made the case for bailing out.

        The bottom line here is that the repubs who have decided to push the notion that Fannie and Freddie are the culprit behind the meltdown are the financially ignorant of the wingnut class, speaking to the financially ignorant — expecting that their target audience will buy that somehow it is Democrats (see the grapgh above for the timeline) who wanted to get poor people into houses (which isn’t Fannie or Freddie’s mission) that is to blame for the current financial crisis. That, of course isn’t true, but Fannie and Freddie are special cases, for it is quite certain that both parties had been quite bought by Fannie and Freddie and both helped it to delay the inevitable. But take Fannie and Freddie off of the board and this meltdown still happens.

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        Reply#12 - Tue Jul 13, 2010 9:33 AM EDT

        And so they are named the : RE-peat-the-lie-to-the-PUBLIC-ans

          #12.1 - Tue Jul 13, 2010 3:53 PM EDT
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