GO RED!! You got the first whack of the week. Excellent start to the week my Feisty friend.

dead head fed should stay in his troll hole if he knows what's good for him. Unfortunately for the sane part of the country, the stuck on stupid crowd couldn't find their @sses with 2 hands and a flashlight.

"The Cook Political Report identifies 64 Democratic-held seats as either “Lean” or “Toss-up” races, and Republicans would need to win a majority of them (39) to win control of the House."

Here's the latest from Rasmussen, easily the most accurate pollster in the 2008 elections;

"A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 44% of Likely U.S. Voters would vote for their district's Republican congressional candidate, while 38% would opt for his or her Democratic opponent."

Rasmussen reported that the Democrats enjoyed a 7% advantage before the 2008 elections, so 13% of voters have turned against the Democrats, so any elections where Democratic candidates won by less than 14% needs to be concerned - especially since the Republican and Independent base is much more energized than the Democrats. November is fast approaching.

Thank you for debunking that nonsense Feisty . . . hopefully somewhere out there, someone is able to use this nugget of truth as a stepping stone towards verifying things they are told and thinking for themselves.

You've already made your position suspect Roy, by declaring Rasmussen "easily the most accurate pollster". If you look here http://www.pollster.com/polls/us/jobapproval-obama.php you'll see that Rasmussen is ALWAYS the outlier in a Conservative direction. The same is true in any comparison of polling organizations. While you're looking at that chart go to tools/filter/IVR-Automated Phone and deselect Rasmussen. You'll ALWAYS see the numbers shift away from the Conservative position. They're also consistently involved in push polling. Also your conclusion that any election where a Democrat won by less than 14% is effectively a toss-up is pure conjecture. Each House incumbent race and to a large extent the Senate races as well will come around to one point--how did my representative treat my district during his most recent term?

RASMUSSEN was NOT the most accurate LEADING UP TO THE Election - it wasn't until three weeks before the election that Rasmussen finally started showing a more accurate depiction - you've got a ways to go there, sparky! PS. There is 18% unaccounted for - well within the margin.

Lies, damn lies and then you got statistics (or polls 4 1/2 months out - when there are still PRIMARIES to be had). But your 'hope' is so adorable.

Feisty, as always, excellent work! And Chris - you forgot the map! tee hee

We can't get BO out until 2012, but I can hear that sickening campaign rhetoric of his starting up again. The more he talks----the better the Repubs will do. As for the house, seeing Pelosi lose her speakership will be gratifying enough. Reid maybe out the door too. I thought maybe the Gulf may become the catalyst to unite the Dems. It looks like it may be working the other way. I believe people have seen and heard enough. All in all, we're still a capitalistic society. We choose to compete. We don't want the government running every business in the country.

actions speak louder than words--- he is a racist, pro muslim, anti american socialist

hopefully the voters have learned a valuable lesson and vote out every democrat and liberal republican as soon as they can.

pghmom-1017484

actions speak louder than words--- he is a racist, pro muslim, anti american socialist

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What actions are you referring to?

Please do share - otherwise you look like just another racist right wing nitwit spewing the spoon fed squawking points of the Oxycontin addicted Limpballs!

We'll be waiting... but whatever you do... don't hurt yourself! lol

Ps: Thanks Chris - Nash - Clara & California Tom! I'm sooo tired of the right making sh!t up and no one calling (to quote Nash) bullsh!t!

Great job, Feisty R.

The internet provide much entertainment but the down side is that it too often promote lies and distortions believed by the gullible who never bother to fact check.

Hi Feisty!!! Same website has the truth-o-meter of President Obama's 500 campaign promises and where they stand right now! Hummmmmmm VERY interesting.

Stan W.

You seem incredibly naive in believing what we've morphed into is true Capitalism. What we have is Privatized profits and Socialized losses. Hope does spring eternal with the unwashed protectors of wealth. We may NEVER return to our former glory - thanks to the intentional draining of the Treasury to illustrate how ineffective government is - And for that, we Thank You George W Bush!

Both sides is nuts, the only problem here is neither one of you know it.

Every time I read such a post, I wanted to laugh. Then I realize that this is serious business. That a group can willfully be so ignorant is very sad if not for the danger that they pose to real society. I truly understand the frustration you are feeling inside dealing with such people. I pray to God that enough people are level headed to a degree to withstand their fear mongering. It's is indeed but I tell ya, it's really scary. Now you can imagine what danger these people bring when they have their way! God help us all!

Very well said!!!!!

Are we supposed to be surprised that a right wing republican LIES?? Hell, Im still looking for the death panels in the healthcare bill, and the plug we're supposedly gonna pull on grandma!! It is at the point where most THINKING people are assuming that when a republican speaks, it's probly not true------------ EXCEPT when they start talking about cutting/eliminating SS, Medicare etc. This has been their long term plan since reagan! They would ratched up the debt, cause a budgetary crisis, then cut entitlements to ease that crisis and the privatize them! ( google: starve the beast"

THESE are truly the stakes for the next 4 years! It's time for American to S*** or get off the pot! Simply put, if you want entitlement programa cut and eliminated, vote for republicans. If not, then Vote DEM. Remember, politics is a lot like driving: use R to go backward----- use D to go forward!

The choice is OURS!! DONT BUY THE LIE!

Republicans are incapable of honesty.

I love when Fiesty gets her red going! :)

LOL! Thanks K in Oregon!

And, it is Main Street voters who are giving every indication that they are going to make big changes in November.

It's ironic, but Democrats are afraid of Republicans. They are afraid of Fox Noise. They are afraid to do what is best for Main Street. After all Main Street does not have a lot of money and Main Street may quickly forget that they received help from Congress. Main Street voters are fickle and the middle class are just as likely to vote to keep their guns and ignore their pocketbook

The Democrats are afraid, afraid of the truth. The truth that their policies have contributed to an economy that is poised for a double-dip recession, that unemployment will at best be 9.5% and is not 12% only because hundreds of thousands of people have quit looking for jobs, jobs that the Democrats promised would come after a record trillion dollar stimulus, that the Democrats think unemployment benefits extensions are helping the economy, that the big all knowing and all seeing federal government is powerless in plugging a 2 foot hole at the bottom of the Gulf of Mexico, that the Democrats are against enforcing the laws against illegal immigration, and the Democrats are also afraid of the consequences of them passing so called "health care reform", reform that 60% of the people did not want, and the Democrats are afraid, afraid to even pass a budget for next years spending knowing that it will show another $1.5 trillion dollars in deficit spending. The Democrats are afraid all right, and for good reason.

Ron - It's a great little book, I've read it several times. Sure fits the clowns we have to deal with.

JoAnnSmith, you've been spouting this same old line for a month now. Will you either do some reading and come up with some new lines or quite quoting Limbaugh and Fox on a daily bases.

Ron, I think you hit the nail on the head. I am not sure that the Dems have the internal fortitude to stand up for what they believe is right.

Have you every noticed that when a Dem and Repbulican are on the same talk show, most times the Republican will continue to talk to ge their point across. They have not problem interrupting the Dem when they try to talk. And each and every time, the Dem will stop talking and let the Republican continue to talk. They have rolled over for the Republicans so far on every issue that has been brought up in Congress. They have tried to compromise with the Republicans, have made the bills less effective and still do not get a Republican vote. Is it that they have no balls, or are they just too polite and want bipartisanship?

Ron, awesome analogy and one of my favorite books. The other big theme in that book is continuing to do the same thing even when evidence shows that it no longer works. The Democrats continue in many cases trying to play "Republican Lite" even though it hasn't worked for years, probably never did actually. Republicans continue to sing from the deregulation/blame the victim hymnal even though we've done that for an entire generation to disastrous consequences.

Good post. "The only thing we have to fear is fear itself." It is about time democrats resurrect FDR's line and use it constantly along with hanging the statement you quoted on their walls.

Many GOPers DNA must contain a fear gene; they operate best on fear of "isms", fear of something or someone different from them, fear of the unknown and fear of big change (change must be babysteps). They must have an enemy to fear whether it is communism, socialism, or capitalism (in the form of big business campaign money) or Obama-ism.

Mo-1852032

JoAnnSmith, you've been spouting this same old line for a month now. Will you either do some reading and come up with some new lines or quite quoting Limbaugh and Fox on a daily bases.

Too bad. The truth hurts doesn't it Mo? And you and the likes of your lib friends have no answer to it, so now it's just making little snide and vacant comments on the side. Fox this, Limbaugh that. We're still waiting for the new lines from you of all the success the Democrats have had in the last 18 months. That would be a very short conversation. But please Mo, please have you or your little friends tell us of all these great successes of the Democrats. Like Obama, we're all ears.

Barney Frank is clearly afraid of Fannie and Freddie, or they might have gotten a mention or two in his "comprehensivefinancial regulation" scheme.

Or does he really believe there is no problems with them and that they do not need any fixing? Yeah, he sure is showing courage.

JoAnna Smith:

You like to play the dozens . . . but you don't have any solutions.

You are a nitpicker, not a problem solver.

What purpose would be served by debating you over whether this or that item represents an accomplishment for the Obama Administration?

Obviously, the success of President Obama is very threatening for some . . . which is why so many feel the need to keep "reminding" us how "horrible" he is . . . seems like if that were the case we wouldn't need constant reminding.

Who are you trying to convince? Seems lilke its yourself.

I see poor little Joanna is back with her myopic view of both life and the Democratic party. There is not one among us who fears Faux News or the Republican party, in fact an objective observer would say just the opposite. For example, the leader of the Republican party Rush Limbaugh... he is a coward amongst cowards. When do you see him making himself available to major media outlets, outside of the protection of Faux News or his own idiot show? That is cowardice in action. One could decide that he is either afraid to put his ideas out where they can be challenged by those who can offer thoughtful feedback, or that he knows that he is incapable of defending his "core beliefs" about America, since his beliefs have more to do with his own pocketbook then the greater good of society. How about Palin, who put out an insipid video of her talking about "mama grizzlies?" If she had any real courage, she would also make herself available for questions from those who want to see if there is any brain behind that vacant look that she wears. I could go on....but I think you get the picture. There is no courage in the Republican leadership, Windbag models that daily as does pathetic little Sarah. Anyone who thinks otherwise is as deluded as they are.

Newday,

I think you are only partially right about Rush. I think that Rush is afraid of subjecting himself to the light of the NON-Fox media. If he were to present himself anywhere else, he would be excoriated and it would then be impossible for his minions of ditto heads to accept that their hero is nothing but a racist, corporatist, insensitive, misogynist windbag.

No, he will stick to the cushy and protected halls of Rupert Land where none are brave enough to assail him and he can simply spew the lies and hate and misdirection he is so good at and that those that hang on his every word live for.

I believe you are right, Disgusted. Does anyone but me remember the time he substituted for a host on a TV show, and got so panicked by the reaction of the crowd that he absolutely froze at the end? Someone will remember more about that, but that was the last time he EVER did a program that he did not have complete control over.

Nashville Fan- were you going to tell us what he has done to benefit our country? I think that JoAnna has a valid point...In the case that you may be on the wrong website, the reason that his failure is pointed out here is due to the article that everyone is commenting on...the winds are changing because of the direction that Obama, his Administration and the Democrats are taking us! As for JoAnna not being a problem solver, first you have to recognize the problem to be able to fix it. The problem is Obama which JoAnna has recognized...the fix is getting him and his far left entourage out of office...I think that she has found a fix for that PROBLEM!

Mark,

Your hysterical and non fact-based ramblings are not persuasive.

We will vote in 2012 . . . plenty of time to educate yourself on the issues.

Just like a typical liberal...you still can not tell me what Obama has done that is positive for this country...

Mark,

I know that you are used to folks feeding you information pre-digested so you do not have to think, but I would challenge you to research and find out for yourself what the President has or has not done for this country.

It is your responsibility as a citizen to answer that question for yourself with the best information that you can find and verify.

Something tells me that even if I were to waste my time telling you, you would not believe me.

That is so correct Nash. Unfortunately it appears that, while the Tea Party and GOP bloggers that love to frequent this blog happen to be on an MSNBC affiliated site, they clearly do not spend any time actually READING any of the material contained herein. That is with the possible exception of all the other inflammatory posts by members that find Fox websites too boring since there is nobody to argue with over there. Since they are all drinking the same Koolaid, there are no differing viewpoint or opinions to debate.

Nashville-

Obama’s quest for socialized medicine gave Congress the go-ahead to produce nightmarish health care legislation.

His reckless spending programs are causing massive deficits that endanger the nation’s future economy.

From closing Gitmo to holding terror trials in New York, Obama has shown he just doesn’t understand the threat of terrorism to the United States.

From the ill-advised cap-and-trade bill to the fiasco at Copenhagen, Obama’s energy policy will cost Americans more money for energy while U.S. energy resources are left untapped.

Obama’s hands-off approach during the Iranian election protests was a missed opportunity to support opposition to the Tehran thugs.

The $787 billion stimulus package was a waste of money and created few if any jobs.

From green jobs czar Van Jones and science adviser John Holdren to Atty. Gen. Eric Holder, Labor Secretary Hilda Solis and safe schools czar Kevin Jennings, Obama filled his administration with left-wing zealots.

The President left our allies out to dry while gaining nothing by giving up the missile-defense system in Eastern Europe.

His constant apologizing for America’s past has been an embarrassment to Americans.

Despite his claim that his presidency would usher in a new era of
bi-partisanship, it has been business as usual in Washington.

Transparency...

Interesting post. Fear is rampant in Washington on both sides. I have to kindly disagree with some of your statements. How are Republicans afraid of big oil and healthcare insurance companies? Afterall, it was Obama and Democrats who received the most campaign contributions from those industries in the last major election, not Republicans. Seems like the White House should be afraid of that gravy train, and from the all talk/no action against BP (They contributed more money to Obama than any other candidate) and their mandate that gives insurance companies 30 million more guaranteed clients, the White House is keeping their end of the bargain. I believe Democrats are afraid of unions, especially the current administration. They should be, its unions that fill their coffers every election cycle and are the most powerful lobbyists in the country. If Democrats are so afraid of Fox, why do they keep showing up on their network? If Fox was as bad as you claim, wouldn’t Democrats avoid them? I also disagree with your assessment of main street Americans. What help exactly has Congress given to main street? Main street aren’t the ones getting help from Congress, they are the ones paying for it. They don’t ignore their pocketbooks because they can’t afford to. The middle class realize that even if you tax the rich 100%, you still can’t pay for our enormous debt and they will be on the line for it.

Your example of Barney Frank is laughable, but I don’t think you were joking. He stated less than 2 months before Fannie and Freddie failed that they were solvent and in “good” financial shape. I feel for those shareholders that believed him and kept their stocks. He is in charge of regulating these companies, why isn’t he? Why are they being excluded in the latest regulation reform? That’s not facing the issues head-on. Why are they going after Wall Street so much when it was the housing market and Fannie and Freddie that truly brought on the current recession. It’s like fixing a dent in your car when you need a new engine. It may look better but its sure not going to get you anywhere.

Mark,

-Please define "socialism" and explain how the health care reform bill that was passed matches that definition.

-What are the specific "reckless spending programs" that you are referring too?

-How does closing Gitmo are the location of a terror trial adversely effect the fight against terrorism?

-What concrete action do you think the President should have taken during the Iranian elections?

-Can you give a specific example of President Obama "apologizing for America" that has upset you?

-If the stimulus package was so ineffective, why has the economy suddenly stopped hemoraging millions of jobs monthly?

-What specific elements of the Obama Administration energy policy do you object to? What outcome in Copenhagen do you finde problematic?

- Do you feel that President Obama has the prerogative to decide who should work in his cabinet? If not, how do you think these positions should be filled? Other than the fact that these folks would not have been your choice, do you have any evidence that they were not effective in the roles they were hired to fill?

- How is it in the best interest of the United States to continue to fund a non-functional missile defense system? http://eponym327.blogspot.com/2009/09/missile-defense-it-doesnt-work.html

-Are you really concerned about "bipartisanship" . . . based on your posts so far . . . it doesn't seem like "compromise" is a word you use alot.

Mark L-464288

How about the time Bush went over and begged the Saudis to release more barrels of oil. That was an embarrassment to Americans also.

-Please define "socialism" and explain how the health care reform bill that was passed matches that definition.

Socialism is an economic and political theory based on public or common ownership and cooperative management of the means of production and allocation of resources.

Nash- The federally mandated health insurance to be implemented in the United States during the 2010-2019 decade with the Federal government subsidizing all peoples with income up to 400% of the Federal Poverty Level. This would fall under the allocation of resources and cooperative management categories.

-What are the specific "reckless spending programs" that you are referring too?

Nash- Are you really saying that in the last two years money has been spent wisely? The STIMULAS BILL!!! If you look back at history we could have approached this differently. No matter what you were taught the great depression was prolonged by the "New Deal". There was a depression of equal size just 8 years prior to the Great Depression...the recovery of this was orchestrated by President Harding and his cure was to cut interest rates by 10 points and slash government in half, this in turn cut the amount you needed to feed the government and eliminated waste. Cash for clunkers was another waste...took buyers off the market early and it is now projected that it added few new buyers to the market at all, but it cost the US tax payer quite a bit.

-How does closing Gitmo are the location of a terror trial adversely effect the fight against terrorism?

First, why would you want to give a terroist a platform to speak from...they should have always been given a mlitary tribunal! They were not Americans and should not be treated with that respect. As for Gitmo...bringing combatants into the country is a poor mistake. Not to mention if you were to take them and put them into general population, they would be dead men...The primary goal of American foreign policy should be to keep terrorists off of our soil. Why would we intentionally move known terrorists here? Imagine the justifiable outcry from residents living near these prisons. The security and first-responder costs would be enormous. Furthermore, Guantanamo Bay’s isolation protects it from terrorist strikes.

-What concrete action do you think the President should have taken during the Iranian elections?

I don't claim to have all the answers, but it was hard to sit by and watch Iran torture and kill protesters that thought that the election had been rigged.

-Can you give a specific example of President Obama "apologizing for America" that has upset you?

The president chose Arab television, Al Arabiya, to give his first sit-down interview. He took the opportunity to confirm the long-held Arab view that the real problem is America, and President Obama apologized on our behalf.

"… America was not born as a colonial power," he told the Arab viewing audience – implying we are now. And he regretfully confessed, "We sometimes make mistakes. We are not perfect."

-If the stimulus package was so ineffective, why has the economy suddenly stopped hemoraging millions of jobs monthly?

What depression have we had that we did not bounce back from...its what we do to prevent a double dip...wake up, Carter already did this and it back fired...when the money all went away, it unemployment rate bounced back to were it was prior and the it added .2 precentage points on top of it all, not to mention what happened to interest rates!

-What specific elements of the Obama Administration energy policy do you object to? What outcome in Copenhagen do you finde problematic?

Cap and trade, we do not have the infulstructure to handle this, plus, Eruope has already tried this and it has killed bussiness with production cost. I have a relitive that works as an engineer for Portland General Electric and he said that in Oregon, Cost will rise 75% to 125% just for residential...dose this sound like a good idea to you? This will effect low income bracket the most...let me see...pay the heat bill...or feed the family?

- Do you feel that President Obama has the prerogative to decide who should work in his cabinet? If not, how do you think these positions should be filled? Other than the fact that these folks would not have been your choice, do you have any evidence that they were not effective in the roles they were hired to fill?

Yes he has the right to fill his cabinet the way he wants, I also have the right to disagree!

- How is it in the best interest of the United States to continue to fund a non-functional missile defense system?http://eponym327.blogspot.com/2009/09/missile-defense-it-doesnt-work.html

Nice source...someones blog...The problem here is that we need to have something there to wage against Iran and that is the place to put it considering that Poland gave us the Ok. It also secured Poland with having Russia hanging over there back. This pissed Russia off at Poland and then we pull out leaving Poland high and dry. Where is Obama's apology for that?

-Are you really concerned about "bipartisanship" . . . based on your posts so far . . . it doesn't seem like "compromise" is a word you use alot.

Yes, I am. I think that government is at its best when it is just right of center.

'No matter what you were taught the great depression was prolonged by the "New Deal".'

OK, so you reject generations of study and most of the field of Economics because it suits your narrative. Sorry, you're entitled to your own opinion, not your own facts.

"There was a depression of equal size just 8 years prior to the Great Depression"

Ah, the myth of the 1920 Depression. It lasted 18 months and GNP dropped by a maximum estimate of 6.9%, thus meeting neither of the academic requirements for a depression, 3yrs duration or 10% decrease in GNP. In fact this event was a temporary disruption of the economy as it adjusted to a pullback of government expenditure reflected in the payroll and materials necessary to fight WWI. Even the price deflation of the 1920 recession didn't match the size of the Great Depression, so in no way was it "equal"

"What depression have we had that we did not bounce back from...its what we do to prevent a double dip"

Ah, so contrary to what you said above you acknowledge that stimulus DOES work, but you quibble with the timing. So be it.

John B: Really excellent points on the depression. I, too, am tired of the right wing canard that the New Deal prolonged the Depression when it most certainly did not.

"We have never made good on our promises. I say after eight years of this administration we have just as much unemployment as when we started and now we also have an enormous debt to boot."

-Henry Morgenthau - United States Treasury Secretary

It never ceases to amaze me how the unknowing pull out that one quote from Morgenthau as if it justifies everything they choose to believe about the New Deal. In fact, Mark L, regardless of what you care to believe Morgenthau did not have any great objection to the New Deal. Read: "Debunking the Morgenthau Myth" March 2009. It is the simplest explanation I have seen of Morgenthau, and you may learn something. If you knew anything about Roosevelt, he loved having people of various beliefs around him. He was not put off by disagreement. And the proof is that the Depression ended.

Hey Mark, Wanna talk about bailouts versus stimulus?? Bush GAVE AWAY $700 billion and Republicans back it, Obama proposed another $700 billion and Republicans backed it,,,,,,,,,,,UNTIL they found out it was to be repaid with interest, At this point the stimulus bailout has been 70% repaid and we still hold a hefty chunk of stock in American corporations to be sold back over the next couple of years, Pretty much wipes out the Democratic "spending" rants don'tcha think?

Being a social or "socialist" leader involves helping your friends, neighbors, and fellow man through tough times, Not bad

Being a Communist leader involves Deregulation, Corporate power, Controling the common citizen, Sound familar? It's how a "Republic" is formed

Beverly: Enjoyed your comments on Silly Sarah. SPOT-ON. If anyone can make a mess in the GOP, its Sarah.

Beverly...

The problem is not Sarah...Its Barry and all his crooked buddies...

If demos would have been doing the Right things for America....they would have no reason to worry...?

Right, "Barry" is to blame for Sarah's obvious lack of intellectual curiosity and general cluelessness.

BEVERLY, What does Sarah Palin have to do with anything? What's she running for? The battlecry of the Dems----Sarah, Sarah, Sarah, and Bush, Bush, Bush. That's it? That's all you got? Boy oh boy, the congressional pigeon shoot. Musical chairs. This is going to be pretty hard on the Dems. We told you it was coming. From HCR on, nobody has changed their mind about anything.

Stan:

From the looks of things Simple Sarah has her foot on the accelerator to be the Republican't Presidential nominee in 2012... too bad she's running on fumes!

If republicans want to ignite another 2008 swing to democrats, nominate Palin in 2012. That woman is intellectually incurious and incapable.

Palin's not running for anything. Why should she? Her book and promos made her a multi-millionaire. Yeah, the big RICH dummy.

Jody,

You are spewing talking points. Those are all designed to take Palin down a peg but it does not work. Instead of taking whacks at the woman, if you don't like what she is saying; don't listen.

It is your choice as to listen or read anything she says or write. You guys are what keep her popular. The more you criticize the lady; the more hardened Republicans will get behind her. The Republicans that don't care for her or the ones that know she is a force to be reckoned with. All liberals like to bring out Steve Shultze like he is an expert on anything. What campaigns has he helped win for candidates?

People can say the same things about you. It is all OPINION.

Obama a prime example: Some like him but just as many dislike him...OPINION.

Stan W.

Palin's not running for anything. Why should she? Her book and promos made her a multi-millionaire. Yeah, the big RICH dummy.

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Thanks for the reminder Stan. You 100% correct - she's a multi-millionaire alright! *winky wink*

Thanks in part to swindling the people who can least afford it!

Can you say... 'shyster Stan'? The Wasilla Hillbilly has never passed up an opportunity to pick the pockets of the 'short bus' crowd

Feisty - she got her money by working for it. She didn't force people to buy her books or attend her speeches. Give me a break. She's not asking for a handout. I’m not fan of Sarah Palin but your "short bus" crowd comment is despicable and cowardly. If you really had a legitimate argument, you wouldn't have to resort to name calling like schoolchildren. The only reason Palin is relevant in politics right now is because of liberals and their unbridled hate.

Aradoll

The Reason Palin is still in politics at all is that she is actually (gasp) smarter than most of the other Repubs in office, and she just opens her mouth wider, mebbe due to Todd.....

LMAO B. Honest!

Oh yes ..the party of pale male & stale have Palin right where they want her... with her head in their laps! lol *winky wink*

Feisty,

I hope that your screen and keyboard are OK, or do you have special covers for them when you are on FR??

FIESTY, You're wrong my friend. She "redistributed the wealth". Probably did it better than BO did. Swidled, picked the pockets, how'd she do that? Arodoll pretty much said it. I would guess that the Clintons did it, Al Gore did it, BO did it. They all had book deals and did tours. Palin is not a politician. I'll readily admit that, but she mesmerizes you, dosn't she? Every move she makes, everything she says get front page. The press picked her apart as a candidate. Now, they can't let her alone as a citizen. The US knows who she is. You guys just keep pounding on Palin and we'll just keep getting after BO. Betcha we'll win.

B. Honest... between you & Drive-By maybe I should invest in some protective cover(s)! lol

Did you see his joke earlier about Palin & souporsex? :0))) I think it's under the Palin thread down the page!

Stan... Enjoy your delusions... You do know there's medication available to help... dontcha?

Feisty,

Yeah, I saw that from Drive-By and got a good chuckle out of it.

It is hard to believe that sooo many of the Right-Wingers only have JUST the Right Wing, and try to fly but only flop around in circles, something like JoAnna Smith, ITM and No Jo...sorta funny watching them flop around the barnyard like chickens with their heads cut off, only their heads are (more or less...usually less) intact!

Stan:

Betcha you wont!

No matter how many books Sarah Palin sells or how much money she makes she will never have the intellect of Barack Obama.

If you believe the polls 69% of the American people think she is "unqualified" to be President of the United States. Yet, she actually said out of her mouth that she is "leaving all options on the table for 2012"

My God! Save us.

BTW, if the MSM would stop inundating us with her every utterance we would stop talking about her. But because they feel to need to keep her front and center every day some people have to respond. It is that uncomplicated.

See you in Nov. and 2012----we'll see who's delusional. When you start talking about Palin's head in some guys' lap, that's not sex. Bill Clinton said so. I'm glad they have computers in the home you're in. After your recreation period, try coming on again and you might do better. Let me know when you're getting out, I'll send you a card.

B. Honest and Fiesty - your sophmoric retoric only shows your ignorance and hate. Why do you dislike her so much? What has done differently from other politicans that gets you so riled up? It's liberals that keep her in the spotlight, why is she mentioned on Olbermann's show 10 times as much as the network she works for?

SHIELA,MD, I have no idea what you're talking about? I never said she was a good politician. I said that she didn't have to be. She's not running for anything. But you are right. God needs to help us because BO's tearing the US apart.

Stan, I guess you will have to explain "tearing apart" to me,

Everyone mentions spending massive amounts of money, Obama has not "Spent" massive amounts, He has loaned massive amounts which are now being returned with interest, Remeber it was Bush who GAVE AWAY $700 billion and Republicans were fine with Obama doing the same until he said he wanted the money back, collateral, with interest, plus stock, Then they fought it tooth and nail OMG, Your going to charge corporations, Can we do that??? LOL

Then you have healthcare, Do you really think Republicans who were accepting millions from insurance companies gave a rats A$$ about you? Same thing with Wall St. Now we have Republican politicians telling their own unemployed voters to watch their kids starve as a kind of eat your own young method of fiscal responsibility (8 years to late)

COME ON HOUSTON, BO can end both of those whenever he wants. He's the Commander in Chief. He just booted out a General. It's his baby now----quit blaming everybody else. He said he'd bring them home---we're waiting?

Exactly Stan! Houston - if Iraq and Afghanistan are such poor policy decisions from Bush, why is Obama continuing said policies? BTW - I don't agree with our involvement in Iraq. That's why I am so frustrated. He as well as many liberals complained about Bush constantly but so far Obama hasn't changed much. Not a peep from liberals either. If they felt so strongly on the issue before, why aren’t they protesting in the streets and complaining about Obama? The hypocrisy is ridiculous.

We cannot just pack our bags and leave, Although I would sure like to, We had no business in Iraq at all and we went to Afghanistan after Bin Ladin and Al-Q after the Taliban offered us their heads on a platter 2 weeks after 9/11,,,,,,,,Bush refused and attacked the Taliban who had been our allies for 20 years fighting communist invasions of Afghanistan.

MSierra: For some time I have read with interest your posts and find you to be a solid liberal, perhaps a little further left than I, and that’s OK. I note that you are excellent when documenting your source as they become the foundation of your comments. You and I respectfully disagree on Israel/Palestine issues which is understandable. I don’t expect people to always agree with me.

I do take issue with your persistent attacks on our President. If you were a Hillary supporter, then it is time to get over it. Hillary is over it and is a real asset to President Obama. If you were an Edwards supporter, then I question your judgment of character as well as your inability to recognize leadership.

It can be clearly documented that in 18 months President Obama has accomplished more than President Clinton did in 8 years. In addition to moving major legislation through Congress, (namely Healthcare Reform,, Financial Reform, Children’s Health insurance, and equal rights for women in the workplace) President Obama has had to address an economy broken due to deregulation of banks, unemployment, two wars, (one of which was needless) and now an oil spill which is the worst man-made disaster in American history. He stood up to BP to the tune of 20 billion dollars so the American tax payer will not have to cover the clean-up costs.

If you want to continue to malign President Obama, then I would urge you to use facts. Otherwise your credibility is no better than the right-wing nuts whose source of information is the opinion coming from Fox News.

You're a typical whining liberal. President Obama is doing what he can with the cards dealt him. So isn't Nancy Pelosi.

Obama is a dead end? lol

MSierra,

I have to laugh at your post, President Obama is no where near a coward, if he was he would have never tossed his hat into the ring for President, I don't think even YOU have that much courage. He has been extremely busy working his rear off for the People and the Do NOthing Repubs in Congress have been using arcane Senate Rules to shelve any of the Dem bills that they can, especially if they help the downtrodden and shrinking middle classes.

Palin showed herself to be a Self-Serving Coward by leaving the office of Governor of Alaska....

America rejected McCain largely because he was soooo clueless that he brought the Dumber than Dumb Palin on board, her lack of intelligence and facts are astounding in the scope of what a politician really needs to know, and she doesn't have a clue about most of them. All SHE cares about is polishing her plaque from being mayor of Wasilla and trying to get HIGH paying talk jobs for the Used Teabags and television appearances. I would not trust her to run the local Dog Pound, let alone a City, State or, Heaven Forbid, any seat in the Federal Govt.

America REJECTED the Repubs because THEY were Bungling, Incompetent and plain drove this Nation to it's present state. Things wold be a LOT worse if McCain and Palin had actually been elected, they are clueless mouthpieces for the Repub establishment and do not have an original thought between them.

The reason the White House has not put so much into Public Outreach so far is because they have been too busy WORKING to save our Nation, rather than, like the Repubs, spending all their time on TV. I would much rather have a President that actually does his Job, Like Pres. Obama, rather than someone who thinks Governing means spending all your time primping for the camera.

MSierra, your position is thin, facile and far from the truth and it is people like you who stand in the way of bettering this Nation, I hope that some day you can actually show some shame for backing Barton, Boehner, Steele and Palin, Rush, Beck, Hannity and all the rest of the bozos that call themselves Republicans and Used Teabags!

MSierra:

I can not believe you posted - At least Palin isn't a COWARD!

We can agree that Palins a QUITTER though.... right?

I found your post to be very disappointing!

Msierra-nice post!

OUCH!! Get up on the wrong side of the bed today?

About the only thing the President has not had to handle yet is an invasion from outer space. That would just about cap off all of the small "issues" the President has had to deal with in the last 18 months. Maybe you should offer your services to the White House to help them out.

That's because she's to stupid to be a coward.

Sorry, Ron

I NEVER DID or Would have supported Hillary I think she's a CROOK

I supported Edwards at the beginning because I thought he was a populist. As more of his votes came out (Bankruptcy Bill, Iraq War, Ad nauseum) I turned to Obama

I was an Ardent Obama supporter. Sorry he's a REAL Disappointment. He didn't speak up during the destruction of Gaza. He ignored those war crimes and the Bush/Cheney War Crimes. He COULDn'T PASS HCR with a 6 seat majority.... He DIDN'T Pass a strong economic recovery package.. He Didn't Speak out on 'Death Panel' Lies, THAT more than anything Encouraged Republicans to unmleash their Faux 'Wall of VooDoo' ... He brought it on himslef by being a COWARD.

HE'S A COWARD, He's a disappointment, and ultimately he will be a failure

What's WRONG with Democrats ? Jimmy Carter ? Bill Clinton ? Barack Obama ? all pretty useless and ineffectual. The only thing Bill Clinton got done was to Sell us out with NAFTA and WTO.... We've elected pretty weak and ineffectual Democratic Presidents

Sorry, you won't face the fact that Obama IS a DEAD END ... Let's see how he compromises on Financial Reform

Prediction: Whatever he does, the Apologists on this site will Celebrate it and tout it as wonderful

Good Luck

Actually MSierra I have found you to be a big disappointment. Please go to politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises - this site shows 500 campaign promises President Obama made and where they stand right now:

Promises kept: 119

Compromise: 37

Promises Broken: 19

You need a break!

Stalled: 82

In the works: 245

Not yet rated: 3

Thanks for the breakdown Elise! Nice Work!

This is precisely what needs to happen - the 'dark side' continues to toss out BS and we MUST continue to counter with hard cold facts...

Plain - simple & highly effective!

I guess we can both agree that Hillary lacked the character to be a good President.

You are right, President Obama did not go after Bush/Cheney for war crimes and he did not speak out on Gaza. There were clearly reasons why he did not go there. The political environment is already ugly and bipartisan. To address war crimes issues would have soured the political climate for a generation.

With regard to not addressing the death panels, clearly that is small potatos. His pragmatic focus was on getting bills passed that make a difference to most Americans.

BTW, President Obama never had a majority of 60 votes in the senate. Lieberman was an independent and a friend of McCain. Scott Brown's victory does not lie at President Obama's feet.

The bottom line is that politics is about compromise. Not getting all you want and if you don't get all you want, then having a fit and going home. I trust you are wise enough to understand that.

Pat, Boston, MA

You're a typical whining liberal. President Obama is doing what he can with the cards dealt him. So isn't Nancy Pelosi.

Obama could have done nothing, and things would be better then they are now. Instead he's made things worse, much worse. Obama had all the answers, he demonized all the right people to get elected and get some of his big government far left wing programs enacted, and we see the result, an American economy on the brink of another even worse recession then the one Obama "inherited". And now liberals like this whine about Obama "doing the best he can". I don't doubt Obama is doing the best he can, but the country needs much more then Obama is giving it. Incompetent doesn't even begin to describe Obama.

Elise, SF

Actually MSierra I have found you to be a big disappointment. Please go to politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises - this site shows 500 campaign promises President Obama made and where they stand right now:

Promises kept: 119

Compromise: 37

Promises Broken: 19

You need a break!

Stalled: 82

In the works: 245

Not yet rated: 3

Unemployment at nearly 10%. Trillions of dollars of deficit spending. Surrender in Afghanistan. No budget for fiscal year 2011. Recess appointment of a far left radical to head Medicare and Medicaid last week (Now wasn't that special!) and trying to turn illegal immigrants into new Democratic voters to sustain the welfare state. That's Obama's record.

And the website you reference is funded by the mega-rich socialist, George Soros.

JoAnna Smith,

Why don't you go and do some actual fact checking. Bush was incompetent, he was clueless as all get out, yet you seem to think he walked on water. Go back and actually LOOK at the legislation that he forced through Congress, and then look at what Pres. Obama has gotten done so far. HUGE DIFFERENCE with the prize going to Pres. Obama for helping the PEOPLE, not Halliburton and Co.

If President Obama had "Done Nothing" as you say, the economy would be so bad we would have people rioting in the streets because they could not afford to eat, let alone pay bills.

You are soooo clueless yourself that it is hardly worth trying to talk with you as all you ever do is whine about President Obama. I think the only real excuse that you can bring up, yet will not say, is that he is BLACK and so, because of that, cannot in any way be competent.

JoAnnaSmith

If you really believe that - I put my son's tooth under his pillow - will you send the Tooth Fairy by tonight?

McCain/Palin were the disaster that was AVERTED! They were doubling down on stupid and we would NO DOUBT be in a major war with Iran by now if those nimwits would have prevailed. But guess what? AND I know this pains you greatly:

THE MAJORITY OF AMERICANS VOTED AGAINST THE REPUBLICANS. You have a chance in November to wrest control of the Congress; but the ineptitude your side continues to applaud and laud will prevent you from doing so.

My hat tip to Michael Steele, Joe Barton, Sarah Palin, Sharon Engle and the multitude of others who are so flipping LAZY AND INTELLECTUALLY INCURIOUS that they somehow are managing to make the disorganization of Democrats come off as a well oiled machine.

Get your own house in order and we'll chat in November! Until then, sour grapes just make your face look all puckery and mean.

Pat, Boston, MA

What's the title of the book that you spoke about Friday?

. Honest

JoAnna Smith,

Why don't you go and do some actual fact checking. Bush was incompetent, he was clueless as all get out, yet you seem to think he walked on water.

I don't recall ever commenting on this Bush person you speak of. Could you please refresh all of our memories and tell us exactly what I said about this Bush person you speak of?

Go back and actually LOOK at the legislation that he forced through Congress, and then look at what Pres. Obama has gotten done so far. HUGE DIFFERENCE with the prize going to Pres. Obama for helping the PEOPLE, not Halliburton and Co.

What people has Obama helped? Other then his union thug friends at GM where the taxpayers are paying top dollar to a bankrupt and soon to be extinct US automaker. Or, the unemployed, who Obama promised jobs to but only extends their unemployment benefits instead. Or, the US citizens that live on the boarder states, the ones who crime has gone through the roof because Obama can't stop the illegals from entering the country.

If President Obama had "Done Nothing" as you say, the economy would be so bad we would have people rioting in the streets because they could not afford to eat, let alone pay bills.

You mean like we're starting to see in the states? The very blue states that have bankrupted their people through over taxation that drove the jobs away and ruined their tax base.

You are soooo clueless yourself that it is hardly worth trying to talk with you as all you ever do is whine about President Obama. I think the only real excuse that you can bring up, yet will not say, is that he is BLACK and so, because of that, cannot in any way be competent.

Sure, go ahead, play the race card. It's all you have left. What a pathetic strategy the Left of this country has to defend their gross incompetence.

Elise: Excellent use of facts. I am urging MSierra to use facts instead of opinion. I do question his ability to recognize leadership.

President Obama has simply stayed focused on his own agenda, Healthcare is a done deal, Democrats have tried for 100 years to break the cycle of insurance companies buying off our Government with every attempt to rein them in and Obama got the job DONE regardless of how much they gave to Republicans to stop/stall/block/delay reform.

Then he turned his attention to Wall st and the fact that they had an open door into our treasury and could loot and pillage the American public at will, Once again money poured to Republican pliticians to stop reform and Obama got the job DONE regardless of Republican opposition.

If he does as well over the next 2 years we will be back in the green and creating a surplus well ahead of Clinton's time frame after the back to back Republican economic fiascos of the 80's, With 4 more years after that MAYBE Republicans will get the idea that Democrats pull us up by our boot straps every time they put us in a hole.

His loans are now coming back in by the billions with an estimated 70% repaid along with enough corporate stock to make up to billions he has spent on infrastructure and job creation, Which Bush let crumble for 8 years in favor of killing Muslims who had done nothing to us instead of going after those who had.

Now a year and a half into his presidency and its business as usual in Washington, and the administration is even more secretive than the last.

Saying that doesn't make it true, and it's not true. What has Obama done that compares to Dick Cheney's secret meeting with oil industry lobbyists early in Bush's first term that formulated the policies that led to the present Gulf Coast disaster and set the country on a course for the war in Iraq? Please give one example.

Cult of Personality

Why are people surprised that Washington rules the White House. Obama, after all is a politician. And not just a politician, but a Chicago politician.

Hey, once again the reference to Obama being a Chicago politician. once again i remind the simple minded people that Obama was NOT apart of the Chicago Daley machine. he was a out sider until he ran for the US senate and the Daley Machine was backing another candidate. only when this candidate past came out that he abused his former wife, the Daley machine had to Endorse Obama, reluctantly!!!

Since his rise to the White-house the Chicago Politicians who you say Obama is like has attached them selves to Obama, Not Obama attaching him self to them. but you would not know this because your are listening to the fox heads or Rush(dope Man) Limbaugh.

What...?

You didn't fall for:

"I am absolutely certain that generations from now, we will be able to look back and tell our children that this was the moment when we began to provide care for the sick and good jobs to the jobless; this was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal"?

That was "A" material, CoP.

He gave Will.I.Am a run for his money with that one.

Houston,

You want one example, fine.....How about this current administration denying more Freedom of Information Act requests than the Bush Administration did. You want a source, fine......

http://articles.latimes.com/2010/mar/21/nation/la-na-ticket21-2010mar21

Jeff

Why do you assume I've ever listened to Rush Limbaugh, or Fox news for that matter. Just because I disagree with the liberal philosophy, I automatically mindlessly follow Limbaugh and Fox News. I've got news for you, I hate Fox news, I don't like Palin, and I voted against George W. Twice. I probably should have left the part about him being a Chicago Politician out of it, but the point is he still IS a politician, who will lie, cheat, and steal his way to climb the ladder. He's no different than those before him. People just took his word as Gospel and I was just flabbergasted. Why now? Why didn't anyone believe McCain, but was quick to believe Obama?

Cult

What that, obviously slanted, article does not state is that a great many of those denied requests, were by GOBP operatives asking for the same information, from the same agencies repeatedly, some of it vital to National Security, yet they still keep asking, knowing they will not get the answers they want. Also, for the rest of the Agencies, President Obama ordered them to comply with the FIA act, yet they have dug in their heels and refused. This is in great part due to the number of Republican operatives still in place in these Agencies (via Union Rules on Hiring and Firing Federal Officials and Bureaucrats). Pres. Obama has repeatedly told these Agencies to open up, yet they still drag heir heels and the Repub operatives in place work to inflate the numbers for political gain. All in all, that 'report' is all hot air and meaningless.

"Normal politician" = "Old White Southern Boy"

Cult: You apparently haven't heard about "burrowing", have you? Not your fault, since the LA Times isn't going to tell you about it. The LAT is on a rip to get Obama, but the last line in the snarky article you linked to gives it away inadvertently:

So, a day later, White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel sent out yet another memo. Since the agencies ignored the memo from the president, they'll all snap to when the staffer's note arrives, don't you think?

The LA Times more recently published a similar snarky article about how the "Obama Administration" was putting political pressure on scientists just like Bush did. The obvious reason in both these cases is that the federal government is still LOADED with anti-regulatory, anti-government, and anti-OBAMA zealots that Bush appointed over a period of 8 years. Many of these people will still be in government gumming up the works long after Obama's presidency ends, even if that's 8 years from now.

Since that article doesn't cite the source of the statistics, I'm not sure that it is the whole truth. For instance, how many FOIA requests did the Bush administration just sit on and not process, rather than denying them? That stat is not given. I know the answer is a whole bunch, as the ACLU (among others) had to sue just to get FOIA requests to be considered.

Even if the stats are true, without knowing the contents of the requests, it is meaningless, as there could have been lots of frivolous requests for obvioulsy classified information simply to create a statistic that should "lack of transparency".

Cult of Personality

It was the part about being a Chicago politician that made me respond. the main place where the reference to being a Chicago style politician comes from Fox and Rush. this is why i mentioned them. yes he is a politician and use he said complete transparency during the election but there is only so much transparency you can have from the whitehouse. lets not be naive.

Ron wrote:

If you were an Edwards supporter, then I question your judgment of character as well as your inability to recognize leadership.

But Ron, I like YOU. ;)

Again, B. Honest made a similar point to mine, but added anothe possibility: that the GOBP is on a fishing expedition for anything they can find to smear Obama with. That might explain some of the increased FOIA rejections. However, since the LA Times article doesn't say anything about the total number of FOIA requests (rejected and accepted) relative to the Bush years, there's no way to tell from this article. Unfortunately, the purpose of corporate media tools like the LAT is not to inform the public, it's to manipulate public opinion by a selective use of facts (and outright lies in the case of Fox News).

Anna Molly: From the beginning, when no one thought candidate Obama could beat Hillary, I was an Obama supporter. I thought Edwards could sell ice to Eskimos and ladies in the sack.

BTW, you are one of my favorite people.

LoL That's okay, Ron. I'll forgive you THAT little lapse in judgment, if you forgive me for mine.

And ditto.

HOUSTON, I don't remember you being at the meetings you discussed earlier, didn't know you were privy to what all went on there? Nobody has to "GET" BO. He's doing a pretty good job all by himself. When Presidents take office, they have to place their holdings in a blind trust. From day to day, they don't know what they own, hold, etc. Cheney was no different. Do they lean to companies who have done things for them in the past? Yes, they do. Nixon was an attorney or did legal work for Pepsi. When Russian or China wanted soft drinks, he got Pepsi in there. Every brokerage offers IPO's to legislators that the general public can't buy---been doing it for years. It's paramount to just giving them money. This is all politicians, both parties. Do you really believe that BO raised more campaign funds than anyone in history from little guys at $10 or $20 a pop. The big time donors won't be going his way this time.

D-in-PA

I think you're on to something. The Republican primaries are being ignited by Tea Party enthusiasm but look at the candidates they're picking - so far right that it diminishes their chances in the general election against the Democrat or Independent.

At least we can hope...

I hope she does win the Republican nomination. Any Democrat with a half a brain should be able to easily expose her as the half-wit that she is and thus win the Presidency (assuming of course that there are enough non-half-wits that bother to vote).

Maybe, As long as she doesn't find herself on her own list of Palin's Picks, That seems to be a total bust as far as picking winners, But she is making money hand over fist by only contributing about 10% of what she is taking in.

Anna Molly:

Don't know if this is answering your question, but it would seem to me, except on those few occassions when voters elect someone like Obama, they tend to prefer a President or Party who have no ideas, no clue and no solutuons. Oh sure, voters clamor that they want a Pesident and Party who will solve their problems for them, but in the end people across the board do not trust government or its political leaders, and therefore in the end, would prefer a President and Party who do nothing because the people feel when government and political leaders and parties do things, they screw things up. Better to have a figurehead (and party) with a tad of charisma but brainless who will maintain the status quo rather than a person (or party) with some brains who try to resolve the country's problems.

That's certainly a valid way of looking at it, my friend, and at least one part of the answer. It definitely explains George W. Bush, anyway, and probably Ronald Reagan. Not to mention these Stepford children that keep appearing on the scene, like Bobby Jindal, Sarah Palin, Michele Bachmann, and now Sharon Angle.

Nice to see you. Hope your sailing -- or was it soiling? -- was good.

What does it say about Harry Reid that a sitting Senate Majority Leader is actually trailing in the polls, and actually faces the very real prospect of being defeated by Sharron Angle?

That reality says far more about Reid than it does about Angle.

I think it is the electorate that has the "McDonalds" mentality. If i can't have it within 30 seconds, I will go on to something else. If the problems of the universe cannot be solved by one man in 1 day, then vote him out and get someone new in.

The media does not help....the constant "Why can't the President fix the small 2 foot leak in the Gulf" when it has been explained over and over by experts that it is a major disaster and the government has no tools in their tool kit to fix it.

We constantly flip channels on TV because we are so bored. Can't read a book from cover to cover because it takes too long. Want everything NOW!!! That is the problem, maybe we deserve what we get but I hope that some time, the people will wake up and grow up and see reality, not what they think it should be.

No disagreement there, Bag Boy. Another part of the answer.

Sonokursh2 ~ Agreed. Another part of the answer. It's exactly what we've become.

Anna Molly:

Not much sailing to it, or soiling. Smell was atrocious. Pulled several sea turtles from the gunk. They are now being cleaned and treated for burns to the skin by the Florida State Marine Lab where a large number of Florida State students are voluntering their time treating and caring for as many injured marine animals as they can. Dolphins appear to be the worst for wear. Their outer skin layer seems to be more sensitve and therefore more susceptible to contact with the oil than other species. Pelicans appear to be the toughest. If discovered quickly and cleaned they seem to bounce right back. Those requiring the intake of water for their air supply are having the hardest time. With the leisions on their body surfaces their is no telling the damage being done to their internal organs. Of course none of marine life is being represented by the oil industry so no representation on the recent legal battles on the moratorium. That's enough, dont want to talk about it anymore right now. But thanks for asking.

Mixed Bag,...I take exception to your premise. Harry Reid is a Dem from a relatively RED state. Yes, it was purplish in 2008; but overall - a very moderate state. Much like Tom Daschle in South Dakota. What it says is twofold:

1. Dems are boneheads for picking their majority leaders from 'at risk' states

2. Republicans are boneheads for 'party purification' 'cuz it does not look like the crazy chicken candidate is going to be able to beat Harry Reid - perhaps a more moderate candidate would have prevailed? Even her own advisors are telling her to lay low. There are only so many gaffes a serious candidate can recover from and it appears she's exceeded hers.

I should have said two and a half fold - because when the Repubs TARGET a specific race - they can usually be successful - they certainly have message discipline down pat. What they haven't bargained for is these 'extreme' candidates that don't know when to shut up. I rest my case with Ms. Engle. Does Nevada really want two Senators 'EN' that represent the worst in politics? One is an ethics problem and the other is an intelligence problem. The optics are NOT good for them. Just my opinion on this one race.

Clara-

Who has engaged in party purification more than the Democratic Party?

A tax-cutting, national defense Democrat like JFK couldn't make a living in today's Democratic Party...exactly the conclusion that Evan Bayh came to, whatever his whining about the lack of comity and civility in the Senate in the present environment. The worse part is, he was a rarity...a Democrat in a red state who was a dead-lock cinch to be re-elected, and said "thanks, but no thanks".

Fact is, Bayh had no future as a leader among today's Democrats. I've heard many of you say good riddance...perhaps you can say good riddance to his Senate seat as well, and the others that will be lost in November.

National Journal's rankings (February 26, 2010) of most liberal-to-most conservative U.S. Senators had Joe Liebermann rated close to people like Claire McCaskill, Amy Klobuchar, Bob Casey, and AHEAD of Russ Feingold, for heavenssakes...! Yet, largely because of his views on national defense...he was booted out of the Democratic Party. He was even Al Gore's running mate in 2000!

If elected, Sharron Angle will be a Senate backbencher without seniority. Perhaps Nevada's voters feel that Harry poses more of a threat to their prosperity and future well being than she does, based on his long record. His dreadful favorability and job approval numbers from his Nevada constituents may make an anybody-but-Harry Reid vote a viable choice.

And that's Harry Reid's fault...not Sharron Angle's.

MB, the reason Joe Lieberman has earned all the disrespect he receives isn't the number of times he's voted against the Democratic Party, it's the area of those votes. He's backed the most ruinous policies of our times--the "Long War" of permanent, financially-destructive war against vaguely-defined and ever-changing enemies, and the erosion of our Constitutional rights in support of that "Global War On Terror."

Seriously starting to wonder if the Democrats will lose any seats this Fall with the whack jobs the Republicans are letting the Tea Party run against them,,,,,,,Can anyone really take Angle seriously when she is talking anti-gambling and alcohol in Nevada??? Thats 90% of the State revenue she wants to get rid of

Houston,

I just made the same comment . . . with twice as many words! lol

Well said.

Houston,

Above I too said much the same thing, slightly different wording, but same substance. I greatly prefer a President who does his Job, and does not spend all his time primping for the camera.

Thank You!!

Nash:

I just made the same comment . . . with twice as many words! lol

That's OK by me. The words you write are good reading. You're one of the best writers on this blog.

Houston you are too kind . . . thanks.

Nash,

Well said and spot on target. Voted. You stated what needed to be said much more eloquently and concisely than I could. Kudos!

Nash and First Read Moderators (Yes, You Mark, and bring it up with Chuck)

I second that strongly, it is time for the Media to start hyping all that President Obama has done. You folks parrot everything that the GOBP says, and then we hear little of substance on what Pres. Obama is really doing. You have investigative reporters, use them instead of relying on GOBP-Speak and the standard outlets. Please focus less on what the clueless are saying and put more emphasis on what they are actually DOING, or Not Doing as the case may be. People are getting tired of Gotcha reporting and politics. If these people can be sidelined when they do that, instead of being plastered on the front page, it would make for a much better number of readers on your site and watching your shows. We are tired of the Brainlessness that is shown to us daily on TV and in some of the written media, which usually closely follows the spoken words on TV. Please be original and provide a sharp contrast to Faux Neuz, I am rather certain that your ratings will climb if the left had a more intellectual, less Beltway-Hyped news source: it is something lacking in the media presently, and people WANT it!

Nashville Fan,

I agree. Three days of news coverage about someone's comments, useless.

I want more subtance. Issue stories, Like Wall Street Reform. I am guessing 3/4 of Americans

do not hear from the media, enough about the issues. Even post here get too far off discussing

useless topics.

Wel stated, Joe in Albany:

Without business investments in their future, the job market will remain stagnet!!

One man's opinion, expressed with lots of weasel words like "most", "they thought", "rarely", "almost no", and "it all added up to". This is the biggest problem with Journalism in this day and age, writers who express an "authoritative" opinion with nothing whatsoever to back it up. You could also build an opinion that business leaders won't know what to do with their money until the Democratic/Republican legislative impasse is broken, or that these "smartest guys in the room" are miffed that they're no longer being handed everything they need to enrich themselves personally on a silver platter.

You could, on the other hand, easily make the case that a generation of "business-friendly" policies has done little but enrich the already wealthy at the expense of everyone else. http://www.lwv.org/AM/Template.cfm?Section=Home&TEMPLATE=/CM/ContentDisplay.cfm&CONTENTID=12682

See how that whole "business-unfriendly" argument falls apart with the merest application of fact?

Um, Joe, did you see where BofA managed to overlook 30 BILLION in Balance Sheet Liabilities? I would question the accounting practices where a company can 'lose' (technically gain in this instance) 30 BILLION in Liability. That is quite the slight of hand, wouldn't you say - sparky?

It's just another whiney political speak now that business is so uncertain, that's why the economy is not growing and that's why jobs are not being created.....what if Pres. Obama rolls back the tax cuts for the very wealthy? What if....? What if.....? So now President Obama can be the blame child and scape goat for business and an economy that has freedom from every regulation and rule that you might think would be necessary for a productive economy, but hey! It's now President Obama's fault - because they are so uncertain about everything. What baloney! They had those glorious Republican tax cuts all through the Bush administration, no regulation, total freedom to screw over the whole American economy, if not the world economy. They did not particularly increase the job and employment sector, they did not particularly re-invest money into Main St., so why not roll back those damn tax cuts for the privileged, quit bailing out the idiots that brought us to the point of disaster, and allow them to fail. Put the screws on BP and others, that's the fear that Ron was talking about. It's time for the American people to put aside their fears and get us back to a realistic and sensible economy. It's time to vote for those who aren't afraid of big business, the Chamber, and others. Those tax breaks and that de-regulation did nothing to help the middle class and never will. As for President Obama not having business people or economists in his cabinet, maybe that should be heralded as a great thing. The left was pretty disappointed that he left a lot of Bushies in there, so what's their gripe about that. It is time for the American people, all American people, to at least try to use their minds, give up their fears, and allow someone who is actually capable of governing to govern. And those that are in the way of that should be voted out, both Republican and Democrat.

And where, oh silent Dems, is our outcry. I don't mean to go face to face with the idiots at T-Potties, but where are the coffee parties, where are the pot parties, or whatever kind of party you want to have. Where are the donations, where is the letter writing, where is getting off our a@@es and doing something?

And I am horrified at the news on cable, even MSNBC (who seem only listen to, but never correct lies), allow the liars to run on and on and on, to criticize and repeat negative comments, to put Sara Sputnik, the clueless, on every show - what's the matter with you MSNBC?

And MSierra - President Obama is one-third of the governing in this country....why don't you hit on some of those who refuse to govern. He does not "rule" the world, what about the pro-business judges, what about the pro-business Senate? I'm glad he didn't go after Bush and Cheney for their war criminal activities. We would have been tied up in that litigation forever, missing out finally on the time to do something about this Nation's problems. He's doing what he can, and doing it without much help from some of the Dems, no help from the Repugs, and no help from the far left who wanted a miracle worker and a messiah. And absolutely no help from the media. He's not a disappointment to me, why is he to you - you are the one who wanted everything and now you blame him. If anything, we're the disappointments, because he does need our help.

Joe in Albany: Do you suffer from the misapprehension that only Republicans own businesses? Before I retired, i was involved both in education, and I owned 3 businesses, which did create jobs here. I believe that some regulation of business is necessary, but I tried to run mine in an ethical manner, being mindful of my obligations both to my employees and my community. I did eventually sell them, and they did quite well. Perhaps you need to understand that those with more liberal beliefs than you hold have had to make payroll. It is disingenuous indeed to suggest that only Republicans are the bosses and only Democrats are the employees.

newdayDAWNING10

Joe in Albany: Do you suffer from the misapprehension that only Republicans own businesses?

It is disingenuous indeed to suggest that only Republicans are the bosses and only Democrats are the employees.

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Ummm, where in my post did I say ANYTHING like that??

When you ask Nash how many jobs she has created in the past year. I generally find that those of us of a liberal persuasion are often accused of having no understanding of the problems of business owners. Your assumption that Nash could not have possibly created jobs falls into that. Why would you assume that Nash, or anyone one of us hates business?

I think the distrust of Obama by business is well founded. He is NOT going to allow business to conduct themsleves as they have these past 8 years of the bush administration! We can SEE the results. Obama is NOT anti-business--- he is anti CROOKED business!

newdayDAWNING10

When you ask Nash how many jobs she has created in the past year. I generally find that those of us of a liberal persuasion are often accused of having no understanding of the problems of business owners.

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And, if you had ALSO read Nash's response, you would have seen that she clearly has no clue about businesses and job creation, regardless of Nash's political leanings. Check it out below. Nash cites the quite a few jobs she's created in three industries that have been hemmoraging jobs. "I generally find that those of us of a liberal persuasion are often accused of having no understanding of the problems of business owners." Hey, if the shoe fits.......

Nash: "I have created quite a few jobs - by buying a car, paying my mortgage, taking a vacation, and doing all the things that our consumer driven economy requires to continue to function."

I figure if allowing temporary tax cuts to expire is the same thing as "raising taxes" then preserving jobs by patronizing those industries is the same as "creating jobs". OK, there are fewer people working now than at the end of the last expansion. People also made less money at the end of the last expansion than they did at the end of the previous expansion. A real triumph for the people who REALLY understand business and something that helped lay the rails for our current troubles.

Is it your theory than Joe, that spending money in this economy does not cause jobs to be added? In two of my businesses, traffic equaled more hours for employees, I daresay that other businesses are the same way.

So, Nash, how many American jobs have you been responsible for creating in the last year?

You can hate businesses and the rich until the end of time, but, THAT'S where the jobs come from. Get over it.

Joe,

I don't hate business at all . . . I just love them enough to DISCIPLINE them so that they can be the BEST that they can be.

It's called checks and balances, and say what you will, but the unbalanced model has not proven effective.

I have created quite a few jobs - by buying a car, paying my mortgage, taking a vacation, and doing all the things that our consumer driven economy requires to continue to function.

You can attack me as "hating business", but you cannot come up with a coherent denial of the things I posted.

Because they are all true and based on the historical record, and not my opinion.

Joe,

How many jobs did Bush and CO. ship overseas in 8 years? How many jobs were being created every month during 2007 and most of 2008? You know, BEFORE the CURRENT President was in charge and arguably responsible.

@Nashville fan... You make the point so articulately I find it difficult to imagine how to improve on it. Your attitude exemplifies exactly why business feels the way it does about you, and yuor ilk, and Obama is right dead center in the midst of that ilk.

Keep driving your car into the ditch, Then, eventually, as you always do, whine and complain that the "business" people you have been trashing and persecuting are not jumping up and down in their eagerness to help you get out. What do you think? can you just get the legislature or the courts to pass a law thta "makes it all better" without business involvement??

Do you have the brains to understand that it is business and business entrepeneurs (those "rich folks" you chastise - and not government, or silver-tongued community organizers) that direct and organize the efforts of human beings in a free-enterprise society, and are the primary movers and shakers responsible for the production of the goods and services that makes our lives better? Or maybe you do understand this, but you just think Government should nationalize all business, and force these folks to do what they do, so you can continue to enjoy the standard of living their efforts produce for you whilst you continue to criticize, berate and persecute them ??

You are selfish, self-centered, idealistic, inconsiderate, cowardly hypocrites, and your inability to balance your principles with a realistic view of the world has caused more tagedy and misfortune than all the right-wing conservative excesses put together.

Initially, it was exactly these kind of sentiments that created the National Socialists in the thirties and the forties. They believed that Government is better able to solve societies' problems than individuals, and they talked the citizenry into believing it too. And to start off, they were right. The trains did run on time in Italy for a while, and the standard of living in Germany in the late thirties imnproved dramatically. Individual voters in those countries didn't vote those @!$%#s into power because they wanted evil government, no, they just they wanted all the good things the "Government can do it all" National Socialists promised them. They were hornswaggled by great orators and smooth-talking bull@!$%#ters.

cbretana,

First of all, you do not know me, so I will ignore all the things you typed (most of it) that you intended to be insulting.

Second of all, in my post, I advocated balance and reasonableness, two things your post indicates you have a poor grasp of.

Lastly, your decision to ignore all of the private sector malfeasance that has lead us to this place is telling. Ultimately, you are a victim of the false dichtomy that has been created and fed to us all in this country "business OR governement" . . . "public OR private sector".

There is no such choice to be made - we need both, and we need to continue to refine the frameworks used for these sectors to interact with one another until the appropriate balance is reached.

Fear mongering and name calling is not a part of the solution.

Nash said: "I have created quite a few jobs - by buying a car, paying my mortgage, taking a vacation, and doing all the things that our consumer driven economy requires to continue to function."

Ummm, I could be wrong, but, it seems to me that I've read/seen a few news pieces that say the auto, housing, and leisure-time industries have been hemmoraging jobs. Maybe you aren't trying hard enough.

"President Obama has bent over backward to accomodate these folks and be reasonable"

That must be why the WH has asked business leaders to tell them what regulations are obstacles to private job creation so the WH can consider changes to them. At least the WH is finally figuring out they don't have a clue when it comes to job creation.

"And they are hoarding their money now, because they have always hoarded their money."

And your source for this is?? Or is it one of those things "everybody knows"? LOL!!!

"I mean, isn't that why the jobs are sent overseas and the off shore accounts are opened . . . to avoid taxes and to "maximize" profits?"

What part of "the global economy" do you not understand? Capital, and the jobs it produces, are going to go where it is welcomed and rewarded. No amount of whining about "jobs sent overseas" is going to change that FACT.

Joe,

What part of "corporate crooks" do you not understand?

You ask how I know that rich folks hoard money?

This is what YOU typed in your original post:

"Until Obama and the Dems can remove the feelings of uncertainty and distrust in the business community, they are all going to keep hunkering down and hoarding their cash for a rainy day fund instead of investing it in new plants and equipment that require new employees."

I took your word for it Joe.

lol

Nash... That one HAD to hurt! lol

About time for some popcorn... ya think?

Feisty,

Popcorn sounds great girl . . . these folks seem more deranged than usual today . . . I'm getting hungry! :o)

You are SO right about that! Easy to see you've worked up quite an appetite today.. ;0)

Fresh helping of Feisty's popcorn coming right up! lol

Sounds like cbretana and Joe wish Rick Waggoner still had a job and that NO corporation EVER made a bad decision and ALL would be in Literal High Cotton if pesky Unions and Regulators would have just left them alone?

Really? Do they think prior to typing? It makes you wonder.

It seems to me that if you have the gonads to show up and ask the government for a bailout due to your mismanagement,...well then you take the lumps with the cash, as it were. Personally - were it not for the already fragile effed up mess left by the elephants on their way out of town - in a NORMAL business cycle - GM should have received NOTHING. But times and drama being what it was - both W and Obama Administrations stepped in to help. Funny how ONLY Obama is being 'bashed' for it. Priceless, no?

Joe and cbretana, a couple of hundred people rely on my decision-making to keep them in their jobs. You'll get farther with this argument if you reach beyond the echo-chamber tendency to characterize all liberals as dope smoking, Birkenstock wearing Hippies who are too lazy to get jobs. Except George Soros of course, who somehow made all that money being evil.

American history shows us that our current deregulation-crazy mindset is actually the exception, not the rule. The Gilded Age of the Robber Barons and the economic bubble of the 1920s are the only other times that we've gone really nuts in the direction of Laissez Faire capitalism. At all other times we've preferred as a society to give our business owners mostly free reign but with just enough controls to nudge them toward a fair society. The reason it's worked so well is that a fair society, with wealth shared widely in the form of fair compensation for a days work creates an enormous number of consumers.

Actually, Nash, I asked you what's your source for your statement:

"And they are hoarding their money now, because they have always hoarded their money."

Your answer above about "taking my word for it" is cute. Too bad it failed to answer the question: The part of your statement up to the comma is its premise, the part after the comma is your conclusion, which is still unsupported beyond that you believe (wish?) it to be true.

BTW, you conveniently avoided addressing everything else in the post despite YOUR request in 13.2:

"You can attack me as "hating business", but you cannot come up with a coherent denial of the things I posted.

Because they are all true and based on the historical record, and not my opinion."

LOL!!!

joe,

The rich have continued to get richer, while middle class wages have stagnated.

http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2009/06/30/trickle-down-economics-fails-to-deliver-as-promised/

Trickle-Down Economics Fails to Deliver as Promised

"Trickle-down economics, a centerpiece of conservative economic thinking for many decades, failed to deliver its promise of distributing wealth across the economy, a new paper from Harvard University’s Kennedy School of Government says.

According to this theory, when government policies favor the wealthy — for example, via tax cuts for upper-income classes — the increase in wealth flows down to those with lower incomes. That’s because the rich are more likely to spend the additional income, creating more economic activity, which in turn generates jobs and eventually, better paychecks for the less well-off. . .

Trickle-down economics prevailed in a period in which a smaller portion of the U.S. gained an increasing share of the most important measures of economic vigor. Be it total wealth or net income, the top gained a greater share of the pie at the expense of the less-well-off."

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The policies that you are advocating have failed.

Now you want to play word games with me on a blog to hide that failure.

You cannot defend your position with any facts, just an opinion piece that matches your opinion.

Nash, you're still avoiding my responses to the issues YOU raised in 13.2 above

Joe,

If there is a specific question you would like me to answer, then ask it.

I note that you offer no answers for any of the questions/issues I have raised with you.

So much for give and take . . . .you seem to be more into take, take, take.

I think I have invested more than enough energy with you - you don't seem capable of an honest dialogue.

You want to "be right" using no demonstrable facts, just alot of business friendly double talk.

Pleasure chatting with you.

"I note that you offer no answers for any of the questions/issues I have raised with you."

See 13.6 above.

Pleasure non-chatting with you.

And Fred brought a dull knife (it's called Fox).

Steven,

Your post is simply amazing.

You summed up the primary issue facing this country perfectly.

And this is why there is such a fierce disinformation campaign being waged . . . to keep more people from noticing the omnipresent source of most of their problems - corporate greed.

Steven,

Beautifully written!

Thank you for including the Jefferson quote!

I'm continually amazed at the right wing nuts who want 'their' Constitution back and yet the majority of them have NEVER even read it... or the writings of the Founding Fathers!

So you'd rather have the redistribution of wealth with socialism? And that way, my grandkids can don their government issued uniform and report to their government assigned job. You know, you libs and progressives (which we use to call communists) villanize business and profit every chance you get so I'm assuming that you'd rather be totally and unconditionally dependent upon the government?

Annie . . . we want TRUTH and JUSTICE, which used to be known as the AMERICAN WAY.

When rich people break the law, they should face the same consequences as the rest of us.

Not pay alot of money to rewrite the laws, pay judges to look the other way, blame the victims of their fraud for the problem, and then expect a big bailout to do it all again.

If it was good enough for Palin and Alaskans, then by golly it's good enough for the rest of us!

You assume wrongly, AnnieRich. I'm all in favor of profit, in fact I'm trying to pull a company out of the Great Recession every working day. I'm against unfair business practices. I'm against monopolistic and oligarchic tendencies that keep a truly competitive business environment from flourishing. I'm against deregulation that's designed to legalize things that are at least ethically wrong, and certainly are damaging to individuals and our society as a whole. I'm against the rapidly developing new age of Robber Barons, the new Gilded Age. I believe that some things shouldn't be for sale and against the current climate that rewards lack of integrity and selfishness. I'm for the partnership of democratic principles and capitalistic motivation that made us great. We've broken that partnership, or at least are on the verge of breaking it. That road leads toward Malaysia, not greatness.

Annie,

Us Progressive Liberals are NOT communists, we are just dead tired of 90% of the Big Business, Corporations and Banks being run by crooks, and want them to have to follow the same rules as all the rest of America, not buy Legislators to change the laws and regulations, and to create jobs with all that illicitly gained money that they are hoarding.

For you to go calling us communist just shows how totally ignorant you really are about politics and economics.

Now, quit your trolling for reactions and go back and sulk in your hole, you know, the one you have been digging for yourself with your inane, stupid and irrelevant comments!

Well said Nashville_Fan! A real shame that the party of sore losers and liars is more interested in stealing back political power by keeping our country and Bushwhacked economy from recovering so they can blame their failures on the Democrats instead of doing what's correct for our country.

i guess you have not been watching the intimidation at the polls during the election by the black panther groups. talk about stealing elections - wake up and smell the coffee !!!

also- can anyone explain to me why they are actually liberal?

do you not believe that people should keep what they earn and only get what they earn-- i really do not understand the basic liberal thoughts of redistribution of wealth and control by big government- and do not tell me that is not what the basis for it- your savior is all about just that and you all still love him

it seems to me that if liberals got out of everyones elses business and worked hard for theirselves they would actually have enough of their own money and stop trying to steal everyone elses

pghmom,

I do appreciate the fact that you acknowledged multiple times that you do not understand. Clearly you do not.

I will simply say that finding some unbiased sources of information, becoming a student of history, and most importantly listening may be a good first step.

P.S. It is interesting to watch conservatives advocate for folks to not mind "their business", and then when things don't go so well (as on Wall Street or in the Gulf of Mexico), the question quickly turns to what is taking so long for "the guvment" to help. Ironic, no?

pghmom'

Can you actually believe that those people making 500 to 3000 times the average income REALLY EARN that?? If so, then you are much more ignorant than I would think anyone could be.

Can you say that those people who have worked hard,, diligently and honestly for their companies and now are out of work actually deserve that, while the companies are still making BIGGER profits than before?

Can you really believe that the banks, sitting on tens, if not hundreds of trillions of dollars are not lending because they are risk adverse?? What about all of their risky CDO/CDS's that they bought and failed, so spectacularly, when they KNEW they were bad investments?

Why are we Liberals and Progressives?? Because we have seen the destruction and poverty that the Right Wing Conservatives have caused, and the Bush years, where they did not bother to even try to hide their criminality.

If Big Business, Corporations and their CEO's would stop stealing the money from the poor, and giving themselves obscene pay packages while people lose their houses and cannot feed their families then the Government would not HAVE to step in to restore some balance.

And besides, the whole Black Panthers thing has been totally debunked, get over it! Your main complaint is that we have a Black President and a Black AG. Again, get Over It!

B.Honest,

Go get em Tiger. Another misinformed bigot exposed. When are these people going to put forth some real ideas to help and stop with the Beck, Rush, Tea Baggers hate and lies. voted.

pghmom, we live in an age that idolizes the mythology of the "self made man." In reality there is none such. Oh sure, some of us are smarter than others, some more driven and to that extent will do better in life. That is earned and not begrudged. Life, however, is not fair and to the extent we allow the deck to be stacked against some, all of society suffers. The hardworking individual who never gets to become an entrepreneur because a larger and larger proportion of all profit is gobbled up by the financial sector is a loss to all of us. The underprivileged youth who are allowed to fulfill their possibilities because education is a joint societal imperative make us all richer. Giving those in stress a hand up instead of a trip to debtor's prison (which is making a reappearance) builds a stronger society. Making sure that ALL have rights makes sure I have rights. Allowing the rights of others to be trampled opens up the possibility that my rights will be next. That's only a small part of why I'm a Liberal, but it's an important part of why we're the great nation we've become.

B Honest: well I would suggest to you that if you can get the education, work yourself up in whatever corporation, or development your own, whatever, then you can be wealthy too. But I see NO reason in hell that if I made bunches of money to give it to the guy who sits on his butt at home. You libs need to get a life and quit with the demonizing of business.

AnnieRich, I wish there were some way you could realize what it's like to be among the millions of unemployed without having to live that hell yourself, but I see you think it can never be you. Good luck with that. One of my Conservative friends had his executive position eliminated after 16 successful years with the same company. Suddenly he isn't nearly so sure there's a job out there for anyone who really wants one.

Annie,

I happened to BE a business owner and was doing fairly well, new house, brand new Chevy PU, nice shop and employees. Having one's neck broken (by a drunk driver) and subsequently rebuilt sorta put a stop to that. I am now living on time release morphine for constant severe pain and sleep more than half the day, 3-4 hours at a time, I am unable to even hold an office job. Just because I am a progressive liberal does NOT mean that I don't know anything about business or know how to work hard to get ahead, I was there and was doing that. Now I try to survive on $750/mo on SSI.

What I am against is the rich not upholding their end of the social contract, where their employees work hard for the employer and the employer in turn makes SURE that the employees are able to support their families well. THAT was the basis of America being great.

Besides, the folks making 500 to 3000 times the money of the average worker Never worked his/her way up the corporate ladder, they were brought in Directly to the management class, and some, those with richer daddies, actually went straight from college to the BOD. How can they say that they actually Earn that money, they decide their own pay, I would Love to be able to do that, I would pay myself a few million a year too If I was that corrupt.

Why don't YOU get off yer butt and quit just trolling, you do not actually bring anything to the table but your attempts to smear others on the board.

ERIC---------------- Prostitute.?

I think that says every thing that needs to be said about the supporters of the Democratic Parasitical Party.

Of course, tho, Jerry, First Read won't take down any of Eric's hate remarks.

BTW, I don't agree with "parasitical" reference. Name calling isn't going to change anything. If it did, based on Eric's continued barage of crap, the world would be a PERFECT PLACE, pure Eutopia.

Dirt------------- I'm sorry, you do't agree, however, what would you call a party whose every program is predicated on stealing money from someone who earned it and using for their own ends or handing it to 3rd party.

Jerry,

You just described the Republican Corporatists: taking the money from the poor, giving themselves obscene pay packages and investing the rest in the stock market. While the hard working employee has to worry if he can feed his family this month!

If the top 5% of this nation did not control 60% of the money, or more, then the Government would not HAVE to step in to re-balance things.

Hi Eric,

Agreed.

Did not the politicans take some time off for the 4th, and they will be missing in action come August again reporting back for duty after Labor day to hang around for a few weeks then off to the campaign trail. I have no problem with our President taking some time off. He is putting in more time than the ropea dopes of nope who will chastize him for taking a break on which he is in constant contact with the WH anyway.

Excellent comment Jody, Iowa - if only there were more sane people like you in Iowa we wouldn't have garbage like Stupid Steve King in Congress.

Not to mentions his AG Holder DISMISSING the already decided (guilty) charges against the NEW BLACK PANTHERS for voter intimidation...

Not to mention the testimony before the civil rights commission that the DOJ has determined not to prsecute voter civil rights infractions if the victims are white and the defendant a minority...

Not to mention his ridiculous lawsuit against Arizona for passing a law complimentary to federal law as opposed to the sanctuary city laws which clearly OPPOSE federal laws...

Not to mention his embarrasing lack of understanding of how to handle a major crisis such as the Gulf oil spill...

Not to mention some of his more "stellar" appointments such as that idiot Napolitano, who thinks terrorism is a "man made disaster" and that we did a crackerjack job with the Christmas Day bomber or Van Jones who was forced out because of his admitted socialist radical past....

Oh, and then, there is that laser like way he is focusing on creating jobs in the private sector...

Yes. I would have to say that the worst administration in US history has nothing to fear. Most American voters have already forgotten this I'm sure

Over 5000 years ago, Moses said to the children of Israel…“Pick up your shovel, mount your asses and camels, and I will lead you to the promised land.”

Nearly 75 years ago, Roosevelt said, “Lay down your shovels, sit on your asses, and light up a camel. This is the “promised land.”

Now, Obama has stolen your shovel, …taxed your asses, raised the price of camels, and mortgaged the “promised land!”

Poor PalinBeck: I realize that kind of comment is what you and your ilk consider thoughtful dialog, but please don't waste our times with this kind of immaturity. Save it for the Faux News folks who will consider it the very height of humor and discourse.