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Subscribe to RSSBefore President Obama's campaign events for Harry Reid tonight, Democrats appear to be throwing everything but the kitchen sink at Nevada GOP Senate nominee Sharron Angle.
In addition to the story of Angle calling the $20 billion BP escrow a "slush fund," Huffington Post now has its hands on an interview the Republican gave to a conservative radio show. In the interview, Angle reiterated her opposition to abortion -- even in cases of incest. And she even compares a hypothetical young girl who chooses to keep her child, despite being raped by her father, to turning a lemon into lemonade.
Question: Let me bring up one other topic that I rarely talk about here, because it's one of those topics that's a lose-lose, but we've got to talk about it because it was brought up in your TV interview and that has to do with the issue of abortion, and whether or not abortion should be available in the case of rape or incest. The question to you at the time by the interviewer was that do you want the government to go and tell a 13 year-old child who has been raped by her father that she has to have that baby. And of course you responded 'I didn't say that I always say that I value life.' Where do you stand on the issue of abortion, a consensual abortion, from a person who is raped or is pregnant as a result of incest?
Angle: Well right now our law permits that. My own personal feelings and that is always what I express, my personal feeling is that we need to err on the side of life. There is a plan and a purpose, a value to every life no matter what it's location, age, gender or disability. So whenever we talk about government and government's role, government's role is to protect life and that's what our Founding Father said, that we have the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
Question : What do you say then to a young girl, I am going to place it as he said it, when a young girl is raped by her father, let's say, and she is pregnant. How do you explain this to her in terms of wanting her to go through the process of having the baby?
Angle: I think that two wrongs don't make a right. And I have been in the situation of counseling young girls, not 13 but 15, who have had very at risk, difficult pregnancies. And my counsel was to look for some alternatives, which they did. And they found that they had made what was really a lemon situation into lemonade. Well one girl in particular moved in with the adoptive parents of her child, and they both were adopted. Both of them grew up, one graduated from high school, the other had parents that loved her and she also graduated from high school. And I'll tell you the little girl who was born from that very poor situation came to me when she was 13 and said 'I know what you did thank you for saving my life.' So it is meaningful to me to err on the side of life.
Meanwhile, Republicans are jumping on Reid's apparent refusal to take a position on the Obama administration's lawsuit against Arizona's controversial anti-immigration law. “Sen. Reid had little problem questioning this law when it first passed, but now he’s suddenly tight-lipped after a new public poll shows a strong majority of Nevadans disagree with him and support the Arizona law," National Republican Senatorial Committee spokesman Brian Walsh said in a statement. "With President Obama in Nevada to raise money for his embattled re-election campaign this week, Harry Reid owes his constituents a clear and consistent answer on where he stands on the Obama Administration’s decision to challenge." the Arizona law.”
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These clips of Angle will not go away. Her positions are indefensible. Even moderates who do not like Reid will not vote for her...but she will get the Tea Party vote. All 30 percent of them. Put a big W in the Harry Reid win column.
Thank you Nostradamus...
Man Ron can you believe this woman, she in some ways is Sick.
did you notice she would not answer the question directly, she said 2 wrong don't make it right, she said she has conculed girls with dificult pregnecys, being raped and being made to carry the child to term is unhumaine. my god, the tea party must be really hard up for candidated, to allow this person to run for nation wide office.
I have a friend who was born out of rape, and I agree with her when she says that people who say that her mother could've aborted her are making a class system. I thought we teach our kids that no matter who your parents were, you are valuable. She is not a 2nd class citizen just because she was born out of rape.
But her mother *chose* to have the baby. Forcing a woman to have the baby of her rapist is something that should NEVER be forced on ANYONE. Add incest to the mix and it is just that much worse.
This woman, and I use the word lightly, is an absolute IDIOT! To suggest that you can turn the rape of a child, or any woman....to making lemonade out of a lemon goes beyond the pale!
Keep this kind of nutty comments coming
Hmmm....I sense an obsession here, unless every minute of the Nevada senate race and every word out of this woman's mouth is such great importance that it deserves its own comment page when there is so much happening in the political world...
Or is knocking the nut just the other side of propping up the president during his visit?
The other guys he's campaigned for haven't fared to well in the elections, and Harry isn't exactly the ideal candidate himself;
Reid So Toxic His Son Campaigns Without Last Name
For Nevada Democrats, November’s election may prove that something more toxic than one Reid on the party’s ticket is two.
Polls show Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, 70, struggling in his bid for a fifth term, with disapproval ratings hovering around 50 percent. Efforts to rescue him reach to the White House: President Barack Obama hosts a campaign rally for Reid today at the Aria Resort & Casino in Las Vegas.
Absent will be the state’s Democratic gubernatorial candidate, Rory Reid, who will be greeting supporters in the Washoe Valley more than 450 miles away. He is Harry Reid’s son.
The Reids have been keeping their distance from one another. They’ve attended few events together, and the first statewide television advertisement for Rory Reid, 47, made no mention of his last name.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-07-08/harry-reid-so-toxic-in-nevada-his-son-runs-for-governor-without-last-name.html
When your own son is running away from you....
Or, maybe this is one politician's son who is able and willing to run on his own and doesn't need to run on his father's name - as opposed to Rand Paul who needed daddy to come to his defense when he started screwing up
Hahaha...Obviously you don't believe what you posted, or you haven't read anything about Nevada state politics, or even the link posted. Yes, hes willing to run, and run and run as far away from his "popular" dad as he can.
Ron Paul had a lot of libertarian support in the 2008 primaries, and where I don't share many of his views, I can't deny that he struck a chord with the electorate and is probably a lot more popular in his state than Rory's (no last name) dad is in Nevada...
Notice that no one is posting anything positive or supportive of Harry's job performance....
Why would anyone post anything positive or supportive of Harry Reid?
His favorable rating with his own Nevada constituents is about 46%...his unfavorable rating, about 51% (Pollster.com).
His job approval ratings are in the 30's.
First Readers are ignorant...but some, at least, aren't stupid.
Note that I said some...
Reid will win-Nevada does not want to be the laughing stock of the Nation. She wants to get rid of Social Security, Medicare, consumer protections, put nuclear waste in Yucca Mtn, outlaw alcohol in Las Vegas-sound unpopular?
I may not agree with abortion, but it should be settled between that female, her family and her doctor. If these tea party republicans want the government out of any regulations for business, out of social security, out of any safety nets for people, no government in schools, then I want that same government to stay out of decisions that are between me and my doctor!! Why are some unable to grasp that concept of can't exclude government for one thing, yet demand it interfere in another?
Tea partiers don't want the government to have NO regulations. You're setting up a straw man. As for abortion, we simply believe a child has a right to live. It really is that simple.
Actually, you're simply trying to impose your personal beliefs onto everyone else.
Sounds kinda like "Drink the lemonaid and like it"
No thanks.
Protect the right - reduce the need.
Matt the goat
Your right a child does have the right to live, but to have government force women of rape to have the child is wrong. this should be her choose, in most cases because of the morning after pill this does not happen, but with incest, come on now how can you make a 15 years old girl have her uncles baby.
One can make fun of Angle all they want but the fact is she might just win this race. And what does that say? It says that there are a lot of people out there who think like this woman, and that tells me that we do not know a large portion of the voting bloc and our fellow ciizens as well as we think we do. Or that we proclaim to know them while at the same time mentally avoiding the reality that there are a large number of individuals in this country whose thinking (in light of our way of thinking) is pretty twisted. And according to them (in light of their way of thinking) our beliefs are pretty twisted. Angle is not the item here to be feared. What is scary is the people (and the number of people) who support her and who may just get her elected, and the fact that there are some pretty major and serious divisions between the citiizens of this country.
Ca: your post is so true. Am I afraid of those people? No! but having them in positions of power is rather scary. How did this country get so divided?
Barack Hussein Obama Mmmm Mmmm Mmmm....
The minute you force children to sing his praises....
I prefer the quasi-religious "Oh-ba-mah, Oh-bah-ma" chant in the reverential Will.I.Am video made during the 2008 campaign.
Kind of an odd thing for a bunch of secular celebrities to be involved with...I wonder how many of the participants can bear watching it these days.
I see your going back to a Limbaugh rant Larry, just shows you don't have anything to say.
Mixed Bay, you've went off the deep end, your post doesn't make a lick of sense.
This woman Angle has to be insane. Social Security is bad, so is education etc. etc. Now it's wrong for a 13 year old girl, raped and impregnated by her father to have an abortion. Now Mom, Dad, and their daughter can live togeather with Daddies baby and drink lemonaide togeather. How sweet. God help us if she or her kind are elected.
As a registered republican, it angers me to see republicans make pro-life stances. The whole reason I signed on to the republican party was because I preferred smaller government. A less tax and less spend government. Let people make their choices and live with the consequences. I don't understand how republicans (who want less government) say that we want to make it illegal for abortions.
For that matter I don't understand republicans stance on gay rights. Let's give homosexuals all the rights as heterosexuals. Let's not intrude on peoples lives. This is why I signed up to be a republican.
Between the last administration and republicans refusal to back pro-choice and gay rights I've been thinking about switching over (however, Obama is not impressing me much either).
Hey Cult of Personality - nothing says cheapskate Tory Traitor than being a repugnant one does it? Excuse me if I don't buy your almost Liberal leanings on gays, you must be one of those Log Cabin repugnant ones who are too cheap and stupid to support the correct party which backs civil rights and fights government intrusion into our lives and bedrooms.
I hate to disappoint you, but that has not been the view of the Republican party since at least 1980, possibly even as far back as Barry Goldwater. They might espouse smaller government as far as entitlement programs, but they have been all about Big Government when it comes to controlling what individual citizens can and can't do for a looong time. I think you signed on for the original ideal of the Republican party, but that went out the window with Joe McCarthy. I would love to find a fiscally responsible party that would stay out of people's personal lives, but I'm afraid it doesn't exist. Heck, even though Republicans espouse less spending by government, historically, they spend as much or more than Democrats. It's all come down to WHAT the money is spent on, and ever since the ultra-conservatives took over it has become about the homogenization of America.
Cult of personality,
If there were more republicans like you, maybe I would become a republican or at least consider voting it at some time! Hearing common sense from a republican is refreshing!
But make lemonade from lemons, for a 13 year old rape victim, WOW!!
Hey tiredoftheignorance - how the heck do you put up with yourself if you're tired of the ignorance - oh yeah your ignorance is your bliss. Instead of supporting entitlement programs for the poor and needy you support entitlement programs for the rich and greedy like their tax cut welfare that has pushed our Reagan Bush Bush National Debt over $13 trillion. Sorry to disappoint you but your repugnant one's party has been against civil rights since Barry Goldwater back when the racist John Birchers held sway over your party of colored people haters. Sorry but your party fought against the civil rights movement in the 1960's, now Braindead Beckerhead wants to steal it for nonoppressed rich white people. Smaller government is the cry of the cheapskate Tory Traitors who are too selfish to think of the needy or want to pay for keeping our infrastructure up to modern standards.
Yeah same. I was raised republican. Have since changed. Republican thinking is fine and dandy, but I'll be damned these current republicans are some wicked crows.
Eric: Tired of the ignorance is one of the good guys. Be kind to the good guys.
Hang on there, Eric...I'm not a Republican - I'm a pretty-far left-leaning liberal. I was just pointing out the fantasyland of the Cult of Personality's post. Yes, I think fiscal responsibility is a good thing - for both parties. I also believe in entitlement programs when efficiently and effectively implemented. When the Great Society was created, it was never the intention of LBJ or the Congress to create generations of families whose sole means of income forever was welfare. It was intended to help those who couldn't help themselves get out of poverty. I also believe the rich are not taxed enough. As a percentage of total income and wealth, they pay less than any other socioeconomic level - with the exception of those who are so poor they pay no taxes.
I'm not going to address your entire diatribe, but you give us liberals a bad name. You didn't read what I wrote - you just fired up your keyboard and started spewing venom. I don't like it from the right and I certainly can't tolerate it from the left because it brings us down to the level of the Glen Becks and the Rush Limbaughs and Birthers and Birchers.
Thanks Awesome First Read crew for setting us Democrats up with a softball article we can tee up on trashing Scary Sharry Angle, the tea bagging fruitcake prostitute from Nevada!
Scary Sharry Angle says that Incest is Best as she supports incestual relationships that bear children, especially white children. What's really scary is that this incest supporting white trash was ever involved in counseling young pregnant girls by telling them to ruin their lives having that baby they can't afford to raise, Scary Sharry Angle wants more teenage unwed welfare moms for us taxpayers to support.
I hope the Mainstream media now goes after Scary Sharry to provide the facts about her clueless assertion about the one girl who was supposedly adopted along with her unwanted baby. I have no doubts that Scary Sharry will get all huffy being asked to provide proof to back up her obvious lie. She'll try to claim she's protecting these makebelieve people when all she'll be doing is covering up her Great Right Lie.
When the anti-abortion crowd starts adopting all of the unwanted children we have from unwanted pregnancies then I'll say okay no more abortions. Until they belly up to the bar and put their money where their loud mouths are about being so pro life then we need to give women the choice of abortion. Plus they'll have to stop whining about children's school lunch programs for children of the poor who can't afford to eat properly.
Scary Sharry Angle Says Incest is Best!
Nobody said a person born out of rape or incest is second class. The issue is with the woman/child being made to carry that pregnancy to term. It's a question of choice, not class. And Sharon Angle has also said she doesn't believe in abortion even when it could save the mother's life. That's fine for her, but the rest of us should not be held to HER religious beliefs.
Damn. Freaking. Straight.
she said 2 wrong don't make it right
I don't know, I once had a former aquaintence named Bleeding Gums Murphy tell me, "two wrongs don't make a right......unless your playing jazz."
Abortion is legal and the law of the land. It is settled law and most people don't even consider it a political issue anymore, except for the bleeding heart liberals who try to use it every election cycle to smear republicans because they have no other issues. If that is all you have against Angle then I don't think Reid can win, and Obama going to Las Vegas isn't going to help him. The republicans have to keep bashing Reid on the immigration issue and his failed leadership as leader of the senate.
Wow. Did you just get released from solitary?
Have you HEARD of Sharon Angle??? Abortion is not the only area in which she sticks both feet in her mouth. She wants to get rid of the Dept. of Ed, Social Security, EPA, FDA, she's in favor of prohibition...
No, abortion isn't the only thing, but it is her most recent ridiculous moment - making "lemon out of lemonades" in response to a question about incest and abortion sounds like something Sarah Palin would have said before the handlers got their hands on her. Have you noticed she is now never allowed to speak extemporaneously - only the carefully crafted scripts that have been composed for her. When she goes off and says what she really says, she's a mini-Sharon Angle....both give women a rrrrrreeeaaallly bad name.....have you ever noticed how the women with really good ideas, who are actually smart and articulate get NO press time?
I remember hearing once or twice from the radio drug addict......
"The conservative party is the party of Ideas."
Yet, here's another example of Conservative leadership.
The time has come for Harry Reid to retire. He is not good for the state of Nevada and the nation. The current unemployment rate is too high: thanks Harry. Foreclosures are too high: thanks Harry. There is talk that the hike in taxes will be devastating: thanks Harry. In the future, there needs to be term limits set: no more career politicians.
I can understand the feminists thinking that the only sensible choice for a rape victim is to abort. But I wonder how well they know what they are talking about. I've had many years of interacting with women who had unwanted pregnancies, including rape victims. With rare exceptions non of them wanted to abort their babies, but felt they had no choice. Those who found love, support and understanding nearly always opted to give birth. To this day I have not met one who felt she made the wrong decision. Many of them are now working to help other women in similar difficulties. It seems what makes the difference is whether or not they receive the love and support they need during their time of distress. Helping women to carry their babies to term is a loving and rewarding solution to their problems. Abortion is a cold uncaring solution. That at least is my experience. And for the women I've referred to above, the idea of carrying a baby conceived in rape to term is not dumb or unreasonable or inhumane. I really don't know how they'd feel about a LAW compelling a woman to do so, because I never discussed it with them. But I know the idea itself would not sound absurd to them. With due respect to the feminists they shouldn't be so quick to scoff at the suggestion of "turning a lemon into lemonade".
The only lemons to lemonade story will be that Angle is the lemon, electing Reid will be making the lemonade since he is the lesser of two evils!