It's been said repeatedly that Harry Reid is one of the most vulnerable incumbents this cycle. But Democrats believe the Senate majority leader's chances have improved because of his opponent's controversial views.
Sharron Angle's views were on display again, when in a radio interview -- sent around by Democrats and written about on left-leaning writer Greg Sargent's blog -- Angle called the $20 billion BP escrow a "slush fund" -- despite BP agreeing to set up the fund. Angle joins a chorus of right-wing candidates, elected members like Joe Barton, and talking heads like Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck, who have also referred to account that way. Money from the fund, which is being independently administered, is to be distributed to those affected by the Gulf oil spill.
She said the government is "overreacting," the Environmental Protection Agency is "all about money," and that "the petroleum industry shouldn't be penalized for one bad person's actions. It would be like throwing us all in prison because one person committed murder," she said. She added that the government should avoid "overregulating" oil companies, because they risk having them leave the country. And that the government should instead make sure that oil companies are adhering to a "checklist." (Though it was unclear how it would enforce that without fines and penalties, or what incentive oil companies would have to adherence without them.)
President Obama helps raise money for Reid tonight in Las Vegas. Expect to hear him speak to these comments.
*** UPDATE *** In a statement on her website, Angle said that her use of the phrase "slush fund" was "incorrect" and that she should not have used it. Here's the full statement.
"There's been some confusion this morning regarding my position on BP and the oil spill.
Having had some time to think about it, the caller and I shouldn't have used the term "slush fund"; that was incorrect.
My position is that the creation of this fund to compensate victims was an important first step-- BP caused this disaster and they should pay for it. But there are multiple parties at fault here and there should be a thorough investigation. We need to look into the actions, (or inactions) of the Administration and why the regulatory agency in charge of oversight was asleep at the wheel while BP was cutting corners. Every party involved should be held fully accountable.
Listen to the audio of Angle's original remarks here.
QUESTION: ... I wanted to know what she thought of the $20 billion slush fund and whether or not government should be able to do that to a private company.
ANGLE: Well, the short answer is no, government shouldn't be doing that to a private company. And I think you named it. Clearly, it's a slush fund. The problem with, even the EPA is that it's all about money. It's the taxing, fining agency and what we really needed was a management agency. You know, what happened in the Gulf was BP didn't do their checklist, and we need somebody there to say, 'Did you do your checklist. Well, they cut corners, didn't do their checklist and what we got was criminal, actually criminal and willful act here, because they were doing those cut corners.
But everyone in the petroleum industry shouldn't be penalized for one bad person's actions. It would be like throwing us all in prison because one person committed murder. And that's exactly what's going on here is it's an overreaction by government for not the right reasons. They're actually using this crisis, if you will, 'cause they never waste one -- Saul Alinsky's rule for radicals -- [laughter of host] they are using this crisis now to get in cap-and-trade and every fine and penalty and slush fund like you said and so, what we really needed is something in a management situation where we know that they're actually doing the checklist, but going forward, we need to talk about how do we regulate an industry and keep them here doing what they do, which is creating jobs without overregulating them and driving them out of a country."


Damn, I should have included Sharron Angle in my insanity comments this morning. She fits right in.
Well, Ron, you are entitled to your opinion, but you might want to do a little research into the 'excrow' fund, and how it is being administered.
As I have said before on here, when I was in the Keys in early May, BP had just set up its second office to deal with claims due to the spill. (One in Marathon, one in Key West). These claims were being processed to make whole businesses impacted by cancellations-despite the fact that the Keys HAVE NOT BEEN EFFECTED BY THE SPILL.
Put another way, there is NO OIL near the Keys.
Unfortunately, the media hype has caused numerous cancellations as vacationers erroneously believe the Keys are impacted, when they are not. Therefore, BP was paying out claims to hotels, restaurants, and charter boat owners.
After Obama took over the payment fund, the administrator could not answer the question if this policy would be continued. In other words, no oil-maybe no money.
So-what is going to happen to those who are lucky enough not to be impacted by oil, but unlucky enough to be impacted by hype?
And what will happen to the funds those people should have gotten?
Where do they go?
THAT is why it is called a slush fund.
No Jo:
Next time I do a Republican insanity piece. I'll include you. Promise
Hey no bo no joe no job - I am falling over laughing that you ever do any research, you just go to Fox and Freaks to get your clueless whining points. There might not be oil near the Florida Keys yet, but don' call premature victory yet as soon there will be oil in the Florida Keys and we Demcorats will be laughing as you have to wipe that egg off your embarrased face. It's fools like you who are trashing our country and economy because you never bother to find the real facts, just the feel good lies that allow you to be immoral and irresponsible!
Hey Ron - great comment this morning under First Thoughts as well as here!
They go were every single person would have had to go, they go to court for the next 20 years fighting a trillion dollar company to win a judgement from a republican judge in Texas. If I was affected I would be very happy for the "Sludge Fund" and the chance to go on with my life as soon, and as best as possible, because for many of these people their way of making a living is over. I would regard not to then have to do legal battle with BP for years a blessing.
Rational or not, No Joe, they are affected. Obtuse Angle! Forgive them, Lord, for they know not what they do. Dunno if the ignorance is willful or not!
One more thing let me say this now about the "hype", when the full impact of this oil and the dispersant are realized the same people who now cry "hype" will be claiming "cover-up". The results be will worse than anybody wants to admit right now and then you will say the government and the media tried to cover it up.
The lady is a bit extreme, I'll give you all that... but what is wrong with calling the fund what it is? It is a slush fund... and the first people getting to dip into it aren't "victims", but rather the third party and the government. You see... they're out setting up the panels and commitees to manage and discern cases... and their paychecks and commissions are going to come out of that $20B. The question on the minds of people I know in New Orleans is how much will be left when these geniuses are done lining their pockets.
it is really hard to believe that there are pwople out there that believe all this bull fox and the repukicans put out on a daily basis. People, look at both sides them make an informed decision. One not based on borrowing an opinion but actuall forming your own opinion. Novel idea eh? Then, if you find yourself believeing the same just go kill yourself.
Right on Willyo, you are for sure the smartest person on the board. Besides Glen Beck of course
The Liar-in-Chief ALWAYS needs more and more and more money
The criminals need to control the cash
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"Control the coinage and the courts. Let the rabble have the rest." -- Frank Herbert
You should be ashamed of yourself. Why does he have to be called the Liar in Chief? What about this situation has he lied about? What did Rush tell you? I don't think trying to help the american people affected directly by this spill - qualifies the president as a liar. You need to think for yourself - but that would be too hard. You obviously have nothing to think with or else you would not be making such juvenille statements. It's NOT the president who needs money genius - it's us. The president is a self-made millionaire and pays his taxes - so shut up with the nonsense. Please. Aren't you rethugs all tired of spewing so much STUPID?
I am by description a Democrat,so you can call it bias if you want,but this is not a stable person. It is becoming the new tactic of the right to say what you really feel,and then backtrack later,the scary part is,it may be working. The far right hears the the first statement,and then blocks out the flip flop. But this will not work long term,I guarantee a Reid victory,and if not,I guess I will have to backtrack.
She's the gift that keeps on giving to those of us who hope some of the not-so-smart voters are occasionally capable of a relatively intelligent, independent thought ... specifically the ones who voted for George again in 2004. These folks may possibly be able to recognize when someone is dumber than they are every once in a while. What many average thinkers have in common is the inability to process and coordinate enough available information to competently prioritize their values, choices & decisions. The downside of having a democracy.
Really dumb one nbnj...
Right...And "there are no plumes" ether are there...?
Oil has been hitting the panhandle of FL for days and days now and it's heading east and around the horn of FL. I'm heading to the Keys early next month to hang with my sis for my B-day and I'm hoping I beat the oil there.
The 20 billion is no slush fund and whatever is left over after the gov't takes a cut will be a damn site better than what the area of Prince William Sound got for their troubles following the Exxon Valdez oil spill.
Don't be stupid, nbnj. I'm assuming you know better than that when it comes to oil companies and how they try to cut costs at the expense of everything else. We are sitting on the rim of a toxic gulf of mexico today, an entire ecosystem collapsing and billions in industry ruined because of an oil company's disregard for everything and everyone outside of their bottom line.
Come on, nb. Wake the f'k up...
What would you expect from a Tea Party Candidate? Commonsense?
A nut does not fall to far from the tree, AND ANGLE and the TEA PARTY are NUTS!
Here you have Harry Reid, by any measure liberal or conservative certainly a very vulnerable incumbent AND what does the GOP do?
They throw in the towel, and select a crazy person. Nevada Democrats need to have a state wide hug a Tea Bagger Day if Reid is re-elected.
This certainly ranks in my TOP 3 Taking a Dive Moments by a Political Party:
3) GOP has opportunity to take Senate Seat from Democrat Harry Reid and yet manage to pick a tea bagging, bimbo idiot that only those that breed with their cousins will vote for dooming their hopes.
2) John McCain picks little known Alaskan Governor Sarah Palin as running mate, whose inability to form a thought or a sentance appealing only those that breed with their cousins and their retarded offspring to once again kill the self proclaimed Maverick's ill fated hopes of the White House.
1) The WORST throwing of an election still and will always belong to the Democrats who in 2004 could not put together a winning ticket against George W. Bush and Dick Chenney. THE Democrats could have picked any 2 names out of the phone book and beat the WORST administration in our nation's history.
Viva Las Vegas!
Obama gives the republicans tort reform and now they don't want it, they want to fight it out in court.
Keep shooting your mouth off Angle, Harry is loving it !
When they have these tea parties, what the hell do they put in that tea!
Forrest- I am not sure whats in the tea, but how do they drink it through their sheet?
Um, Forrest, Birdman..... I'm not altogether certain they are DRINKING the tea at these parties!
It's good old fashioned Hate-O-Raid disguised as tea...
MICHELLE OBAMA: And Barack knows that we are going to have to make sacrifices, we are going to have to change our conversation, we're going to have to change our traditions, our history. We're going to have to move into a different place.
The entire GOP is nothing but a corporate slush fund doing their corporate masters bidding and to hell with the American people
Typical Repug tactic: Make an outrageous statement, let the media play it up, then quietly say you regret making it. This woman is pathetic!
This seems to be the routine now. Republicans want the Tea Party vote, so they will take something Rush has already said and repeat it. Then they get called on what they said being a lie. Then they apologize because they have no evidence at all to back their claim. So the whole tactic is to make huge claims against Obama then back away from those claims when challenged because there is NO real evidence.
The escrow account is insurance against BP declaring bankruptcy and walking away from all of the legitimate claims of people who are being impacted by the BP oil spill. Obama himself has NO access to the money and anyone claiming that he does needs to be sued. That is a slob lie accusation. It is time the liars get held fully accountable for their lies.
I guess she is still in her vegetative state.
Sad, really.
Wow, a HUGE NATIONAL TROLL...WHACK
That Lady really IS whacked, she is about as intelligible as Sarah Palin, and that takes some doing! She appears to have no concept of what the different governing bodies do, what the Agencies do, and what actually is being Done with that $20B fund for making sure that the People of the Gulf Coast who are losing their livelihoods and businesses in the worst US oil spill/gusher ever for SURE get paid, instead of making them wait through decades of court hearings to recover a tiny bit, Long after their jobs, houses, families etc. are gone! She cannot tell that that $20B is for the People who are being devastated economically.
She is downright SCARY and I hope to the Gods that she goes down in Flames in November!
B Honest:
Why is it that everyone that do not agree with your political philosophy a damn fool, ignorant, unintelligent, a troll (do you call your mother a troll?)? This is the problem with SOME of you liberals in that you believe your sh!t don't stink and everyone is suppose to just salivate at your every word.
The lady is a POLITICIAN and apparently doing more than you or anyone else on this board. Most on here has never ran for any public office but yet consider themselves experts on campaigning.
I know a bunch of what I consider dumb azz Democrat candidates and Congressmen/women. i can name just as many of them as you can Republican. You see it's just a matter of opinion....thats all it is.
Only time will tell if that fund is actually what they say it is. I called a business associate the other day and he said the red tape is incredible just to get a frikken penney.
In the middle, actually far right, I have not run for political office and I doubt you have either. It seems that when people on this board express their opinions they are doing just that and nothing more. Where they form their opinions may vary but opinions are like noses, we all have one.
Personally I totally disagree with Angle. Just because she is in the position she is in doesn't necessarily make her an expert on anything or does she necessarily represent her constituents. They will decide if they want her to continue in that capacity or not. People who disagree with her aren't necessarily any more snobish than anyone else. Sarah Palin and Sharon Angle seem to MOST people to be too extreme and therefore aren't likely to make much of an impact on the laws of this country. An opposition is necessary to keep either side from running amok and going too far. If you were truely in the middle you would know that there are two or more sides to everything and that it is okay to have a differing opinion.
Since actions speak louder than words we will see who eventually will need to belly up to the table to eat crow.
You have to wonder about the extremes of BOTH parties and why we are seeing more of it now. Could it be that the extremes are TESTING the American public to see what their tolerances are? Could it be that the extremes are trying to make a point that they are BETTER than the President when it comes to governing?
I dunno.
I submit that we are seeing more extreme positions because the American public TOLERATES them, and like any good salesperson, you will give the public (customer) more of what they are asking for. Now, this may be a misguided notion, but we have pols like Sarah Palin... Michelle Bachmann... and now Sharron Angle.
Is there any other explanation?
I am even more surprised that we are seeing SO MUCH MONEY behind these very extreme positions. I think that this 'gamble' by the powers that be is an investment in their agenda that they will convince the majority of America to follow. The weakness - and fallacy - of this approach is that there MAY be real thinking Americans left in this country that will vote against this agenda.
I guess time will tell, won't it?
scary person indeed
InTheMiddle, I HAVE run for office and I do know a good deal about campaigning and I can tell you, partisanship aside, that Sharron Angle and people who hold positions like hers, are facile cheats and unfortunately, not very many people have or choose to use the critical thinking capabilities that God gave a goat.
The person-on-the scene information you got from your associate, that getting money out of this fund requires a lot of 'red tape', which probably means documentation of loss, demonstrates that it is NOT a "slush fund". By definition, a slush fund is money that comes from many indistinct sources and is spent with little or no documentation on questionable purposes or those that the holder of the slush fund wants to obscure. So your offering up of the 'red tape' criticism is actually negates the allegation of a slush fund, if the person using the term even knows what such a thing truly is.
The man who is administering this fund has experience and an excellent record of managing the 9/11 compensation fund (he was chosen by GW Bush for that responsibility) and there is no reason to think him incapable of performing this responsibility with the same caution and integrity.
The irony, and hypocrasy, of the situation is that if the fund were not being independently and carefully administered, you all would be justified in being suspicious of it being a slush fund, but since it is you contradict yourselves and complain about the 'red tape' of the application process and the time careful evaluation takes.
I wish Americans would think more for themselves. Maybe they would recognize what sheep they are for uncritically parrotting sound bites and assertions from the media gabblers who play inflammatory games of 3-card monty that pass for deliberation. Remember, all, there are no 'truth in advertising' laws on any of the media. Please read more than one side, be conservative in what you take for "fact", keep a long memory of who said and representated themselves as what, and don't be too quick to drink the Kool-Aid offered by anyone!
I agree with you. This woman sounds like Michelle Bachman and Sara Palin and few other woman Representatives. Are they leading a bible Revolution or what? They all sound crazy!
I would almost like to see the Used Teabags and their Repub marching bosses have themselves a real Jim Jones-in-Guyana style Kool-Aid Party. I can almost see that crowd going along with it "Just To Show Them Demon Dems That We Are Not Afraid Of Nothin." Would serve them right!
Blk Hills Laura - makes sense to me! Your last paragraph says it all- cons on both sides of the isle- one-up-manship is the new black, and making stuff up as you go along without really thinking it thru are the norm now. How sad for us. The American people -we- should be better than that. The media - on BOTH sides spout their opinions as facts and we gobble it up without a second thought. We gotta do better folks. If not they will make fools of us all- with our help.
BlackHills:
If you would READ; I said time will tell if this is WHAT THEY SAY IT IS. No I have never ran for public office because I chose to serve this nation in the armed forces. Obviously I was just as successful running for public office as you were, we are both on a blog....so that means no one wanted to hear your ideas.
How can you judge that woman? You don't know her personally. If you're not from Nevada; worry about your own Senator. You say people (basically your speaking of non-liberals) do not use their critical thinking skills. Half of America doesn't even vote so you're just impuning most of the country.
Point blank: You don't like this woman. It does not matter because you weren't voting for her anyway.
As far as the red tape is concerned; that administrator stated on T.V. that the money would go out immediately and the red tape would be cut.
Adler:
I dont hide that I vote Republican. I live INTHEMIDDLE of Texas. Don't attempt to label me. I am not far anything. I have a view and it's mine and I very seldom change. I am a military man and there is nothing in between, you're either one way or the other.
Middle,
Typical, illogical, hypocritical thinking from someone of your stated background ...
On the one hand you castigate me for allegedly making assumptions and judgements about Sharron Angle when I don't know her, yet you indulge yourself in many assumption and judgements about me, whom you don't know. And, for the record, most of your assumptions was wrong. My run for office was successful. And your 'evidence' for your assumption is the fact that I am posting on a blog, as if that implies that everyone and anyone who posts on a blog is an unsuccessful loser with nothing better to do... wow! The reality is that you've told us all more about YOURSELF, via projection, than maybe you really wanted to.
You criticize me for allegedly impuning people and assert that you know of whom I was speaking (non-liberals, to use your term) Yet, again, you are WRONG! I was speaking of the American people as a whole, regardless of party or political philosophy. If I had meant to distinguish a specific group I would have done so. I am capable of critical thinking and I am also capable of saying what I mean and meaning what I say. In complete sentences, with proper spelling and grammar, too.
So let me say this, your arrogance and hypocrisy are pathetic examples of the very kind of muddled thinking I was talking about. And, in another example of your typical blurred, double-vision thinking, you chide me for concerning myself with the goings-on in a state in which I do not live, but I note that you don't live in Nevada either, and so I question why you were commenting on this controversy from the bowels of Texas, to which my comment was a response?
Get him, Laura!!!!!!!
Laura,
Is that all you got? That was a weak azz comeback. Now if you want to get into an intellectual conversation I can do that, but if you want to get ghetto, I can do that too.
Your choice, it is in your corner. Make your move trick.
Come on wit' it...
Laura,
Are you single? :)
intheMiddle,
"If you want to get into an intellectual conversation I can do that, but if you want to get ghetto, I can do that too." With that statement, you certainly proved that you can get "ghetto," but nothing you have posted indicates that you can "get into and intellectual conversation." Lauara, was trying to engage you in an intellegent conversation, and when she exposed all the flaws in your reasoning, you went "ghetto." Laura, kicked your butt, dude! Next time, try losing gracefully or just go away mad!
Middle,
My daddy always taught me to have compassion and consideration and never get into a battle of wits with an unarmed man.
Having now recognized you as such, I will leave you to your own solitary "entertainments".
Move over Sarah Palin -- this woman (Sharon Angle) is an idiot!! Perhaps she beat the chicken lady, but Navadans who vote for her in the general election are IQ-impaired, just kike she is.
Don't forget to include Rep. Michele Bachmann into that twisted mix.
Heaven Help Us if this nut job gets anywhere near the Senate... I still can't wrap my head around the fact that there are American's STOOOPID to vote for this twit!
Al Franken's stupid azz is there. I
t is a lot of nutjobs in Congress but yet who are we to judge none of us is there. As long as it is not my Congressman, who really gives a .........
Nice to see you ITM.. it's been awhile...
You're still as angry as ever...
Inthemiddle, TX
Yeah Texas has no crazy politicians?
This is the backwards State that have given us Bush, Barton, Delay at a National level, and that nut job of a governor Perry.
Perhaps we need to take a hard look at immigration reform, with part of that to include in giving Texas back to Mexico
Birdman, Sadly I think Mexico would REFUSE to take Texas back now, they would probably say "Well, You Broke It, YOU Fix it, we cannot afford to clean it up nor to take that many English speakers on our Welfare system!"
priceless retort, there, B.
Loved it!
All of you can kiss our Texas azz.
Don't hate the player, hate the game.
You wish you lived in Texas. You might enjoy life better.
Now that is priceless.......and I loved it...
Most of the people that I know that have lived in Texas LEFT because they could not stand how corrupt, racist and corporate driven it is, as well as gerrymandered districts that make for automatic wins for certain incumbents. Most of those folks would NEVER go back even if you paid them, Like they say:
Texas is a great State to be FROM! But don't try going there yourself!
"Deep in a Pile of Texas"
Texas has some great places, and great people!
BUT politically y'all would be better off to Burn Down the Alamo, and beg Mexico to take you back.
You would probably enjoy life better under President Calderon than that milguetoast whussy Governor Rick Perry.
I'm stunned with the intelect In the middle displays. A shining example of what a Texas education produces. And I am from Texas, born and raised. It weighs heavy on my heart to see my home state slide deeper and deeper into the realm of the oblivious.
Shellie,
For your information, since you claim to know where I was educated: Yes I went to school in Texas and went to college in Colorado. So your ever-so-clever insult holds no weight.
I am a shining example of what a kid from a small town in Texas can grow up to be: 1. retired from military as a Major, 2. Own my own biz, 3. married for 21 yrs, 4. Work at the greatest job in the world, 5. Own 2 homes (paid for), 6. 1 son drafted to the NFL, 2 sons in HS on the Honor Roll and 1 a football All-American, 7. In a position to donate 50,000 every year to the youth sports program in my hometown and also helped to raise 10,000,000 to build a new recreation center.
So you see I am one of America's most hated: An Educated Blackman that can hold his own.
Thank You, have a nice day...........poof
Boy, ITM... you sure can spin a tale. But how do we know you're telling the truth? How do we know you're not just spewing your dream-sh!t to try and pretend you're actually worth our time in reading what you post? BTW, you're not...the only good things I've read are the responses to your drivel! lol
I could easily say I'm ex-military, rich as Midas, charitable as all get-out, with sucessful sons and daughters littering the place too, etc., etc. Talk is cheap. You show what kind of a person you are by your words, not by the 'list' you can generate of your dreams and wishes.
Stay in TX, by all means. Having you in the real world would be a disaster!
Disgusted,
It does sound a bit like Joe the fake Plumber, doesn't it? What is the point in overshare - unless you are still insecure about who you are and what you have?
Yes I speak of who I am just to let all of you caucasions know I'm not just some dumb azz n...r talking sh!t. I get tired of all you frikken liberals with your "I'm smarter than any Republican, all republicans are bigots and racist, all Republicans are dumb-phukks from small town USA", the sh!t gets old and played out. I don't have to lie about a damn thing for I know who I am. Something that a lot of you confused MF's on here don't.
Disgusted:
The next time you step to me, you need to come correct or keep it movin'. Tricks are for kids you silly rabbit. Now you go ask your "best black friend" what rabbit means.
That's right I said it.........
Clara:
You would co-sign anything these sh!t for brains juvenile's post. Sounds like you're the one that is insecure. What's wrong, the hubby is out kicking it with the fellas'?
ITM
I grew up very poor, Irish/German/Polish background, and watched my dad forced into Wage Slavery. What do I know about it, My family, the Irish side, started as Indentured slaves from the poor house, they were caught in the Potato Famine and lost everything, and instead of going to Debtor's Prison, they were shipped to the US as Indentured Slave Labor to pay off their debts and the cost of shipping them here. Luckily, the Indenture was bought by a farmer who allowed my ancestors to work off the debt instead of keeping them tied to their farm, like so many did, and it took them 30 years to pay that off, 2 generations. At the time there was very little difference between the Slavery of Blacks and that of the Indentured...read about it sometimes, the Irish were often treated worse than blacks in some cases because they were cheaper than black labor. Was it fair to anyone, those days, No, it was not, but it is part of our shared history of abuse against those least able to defend against it. You seem to forget that at most of those Civil Rights Movement Rallies, where the police and others went postal, that there WERE whites and others right alongside of you, getting the same treatment for being 'traitors'. You should go and study more history without your blinders on.
I applaud you being successful, I wish that for everybody, and no, it does not scare me one bit. I actually wish you the best. I am glad that you were not forced into the military.
With that all said, I still find your stances on many subjects to be plain amazingly short on thought and Fact. I see you mostly just bashing others here and not actually bringing anything pertinent to the discussions, mostly just name calling and baiting. That is why I say you are only filled with hate, I see little of what you have to say as being constructive. And THAT is why I called you out, not racism, I had no idea you were black, it makes NO difference to me whatsoever.
And I would NEVER EVER call someone racist label names, that just disgusts me. I am Not at all racist,never have been and have called out folks for their racism on all sides, white, black, hispanic, asian etc. when they start spouting junk and ignorance. I have even had black folks try to tell me that blacks cannot be racist! Anyone, of any color can be racist. The way you are treating me now I consider racist, with you thinking I am calling you a Dumb Azz .........! I never cared about what race you are, not important to me. Sad for you to have to fall back to that line, just like the Israelis saying all criticism of Israel is Anti-Semetic....when it is no such thing.
I wish you a great day, and hope that what I have said sparks some thought in you other than long held hate.
B Honest:
I don't know who you are but I have had issues with some of these same folks for years. This goes all the way back when FR was introduced.
If it wasn't for Republicans this site would have never opened or would have been closed long ago. If it wasn't for Bush; there would be no MSNBC, no Olbermann, Maddow, Shultze, nor Matthews.
Liberals need someone to complain about or they have nothing to do. What is happeneing now is people like myself is just throwing the same BS we heard for 8 yrs back at them. It is not going to stop, it is just going to get even more ramped up no matter what I say.
Now I never call Obama out of his name but I will not give him praise neither for something I do not agree with. I respect him for his success as a blackman..That is all.
I'm not one of those African Americans that just go blindly vote Democrat because they have told me the Republicans will take all of you're social programs away.
ITM,
Thank You for recognizing that you Don't know me, and for making a non inflammatory post.
If I may say one thing tho, You appear to be here only to fight, not to give any sort of constructive ideas, but only to shout others down. That is not what this blog is supposed to be about, rather, like Candice does, is to be able to converse and try to find some middle ground, to help ALL of us, because if we do not work together, we all will lose. If you could please drop your combativeness and actually try to find some sort of way to disagree without dropping into the hate and loathing filled invective, you would get a lot more respect around here. I do not expect you to necessarily agree with us, but just tossing hate around helps no one. Even some of us Dems disagree with each other, but we try to talk it out through giving each other what information we have, rather than the name calling etc. Yes, I blast back at some of those that just troll, ones who have no intention of any intelligent conversation. But, like with Juven recently, if they have a good point, I will tell them so. If I disagree with another Dem, I will say so, giving my reasons. If someone just starts spouting hate at me, I will respond, at first with logic, and if that does not work, them I respond in kind. Ignorance and hate, like racism, sexism and homophobia, should not have to be tolerated.
Many of us saw that Bush/Cheney's actions were severely damaging to this Nation, which is why we campaigned so hard against the Repubs in the first place, he was committing treason against the Constitution of the United States, the same one that we swore to defend from all enemies, foreign and DOMESTIC, Bush and Cheney are/were Domestic enemies and were much worse than any Republican or Democrat President before him except one. We saw him trampling the Constitution, destroying the Budget, waging a war of choice against someone who had Not attacked us, made sure that the money flowed freely to his buddies only, and made us a Pariah amongst the other Nations. It was not just partisanship, we saw him actively destroying this Country, and knew that he and his Cabal HAD to be stopped. Now we are desperately trying to fix what they broke, and the Repubs are blocking all attempt to do so, trying to make the Dems look bad just for political points as America falls deeper and deeper into abject poverty.
I do not expect you to agree with all of this, but still, I do expect you to respect the positions of others and not just bash and name call and spew hatred all over. If you have something constructive to say, most of us here will listen to you, and if it makes sense, we will tell you. Just like Candice and I and others, we can disagree civilly and with respect.
Please understand, I am not trying to put you down, I am trying to give you something constructive to work with, since I believe that everybody with their own viewpoints, if we can all talk to each other with respect, can get a whole lot more done since we have more tools to use when everybody brings their best to the conversation. I do not expect ANYONE to vote blindly, but to actually look at the issues and vote their conscience and heart.
I hope to actually converse with you further, I feel that however much hatred you have shown, that you also must have something constructive to say as well, or you would not feel so strongly.
Does Scary Sharry Angle know what her flip flopping positions are today? Scary Sharry is lying about President Obama setting up a slush fund for the government from BP Oil, he's putting his bootheel on this corrupt big foreign oil company to make sure that BP Oil pays people from the Gulf red states who have had their economic lives damaged by BP Oil's massive preventable mistake. President Obama is making sure to override the legal liability laws written by big piggy oil companies and passed by their rightwing political lackeys. Why does Scary Sharry hate the red state rightwing morons so much that she doesn't want to see them made economically whole?
What a joke that Scary Sharry would accuse the EPA of being all about money. Hey Scary Sharry it's the big piggy opil companies that are all about money and the Gulf oil spill was caused because BP Oil was all about making money by cutting corners and ignoring safety. All the dopes of nope want to do is kill the sane and needed cap and trade portion of climate change legislation because their big piggy oil company masters are paying them to do it.
Considering the massive budget deficit wouldn't it be smart for our federal government to force the most profitable industry in the world to start paying their fair share of taxes? Exxon paid billions in taxes around the world last year to foreign countries, yet not one penny in US taxes. It's time to stop subsidizing this most profitable industry to the tune of $45 billion per year, time for Americans to belly up to the bar and pay more for gas just like the rest of the world. Sorry evangelical christian lunatic fringers but we do not have the god given right to cheap gas.
Time for Scary Sharry to stop overreacting and to start telling the truth. But then Scary Sharry is too stpuid to know the real truth, she's just another clueless wannabe-blond prostitute for the big piggy oil companies who are funding her campaign. If it were up to Scary Sharry all of those people and businesses in the oil slimed Gulf red states that are being destroyed economically would have to pull themselves up by their own bootstraps and clean up BP Oil's mess themselves at their own cost.
Bravo! Eric.
Awesome, Eric! Remind me next time I'm in Salinas to buy you a beer :)
"time for Americans to belly up to the bar and pay more for gas just like the rest of the world"
I couldn't agree more. I work in Fort McMurray, Alberta, which is where all of the oilsands come from. We pay some of the highest prices for gas in the country, aprox $3.80 per gallon, even though it's produced here. For all of the rhetoric I hear about getting off of middle eastern oil, it's unreal how much disparity I hear towards the oilsands. They want to build a pipeline from here to the US to pump the crude for refinement (which would create JOBS) and it's being opposed by numerous senetors and congressmen. Keep that in mind when you keep asking why "they" aren't helping to create now jobs. I would also like to point out that as far as "dirty oil" is concerned, it's still alot cleaner than burning coal.
They.Are.All.The.Same. Protect.The.Corporate. Money. Making. Greedy.Unethical.Thieves.
Screw.Everybody.Else.
Think Progress:
John Boehner Invites Lobbyists To Help Form GOP Agenda In Intimate Meeting In His Office
They will get all those great minds together and brainstorm and they will come out of the meeting with two policy proposals; taxes should be cut, and if there are any regulations left they should be gutted. Then they will say it is the obvious path to success and prosperity for all Americans.
Slush Fund, maybe. Let's see who receives the money that will be the proof if it is or is not a slush fund.
So far... the government and it's third party are the ones receiving the money. After all, the government's third party is having to establish comittees and panels to administrate and evaluate cases... all of which will be paid from the "slush fund". What portion of it is left after these individuals get their commissions and paychecks is the real concern of people in places like New Orleans.
Duhh, the government has some pretty big expenses with the clean up dude. Do you want your government paid for it services or not?
RatPoison: "So far... the government and it's third party are the ones receiving the money."
Proof please, not conjecture or opinions.
Never satisfied. Had Obama not done anything, you'd complain about that. Now that he's acted on behalf of the people, now its a slush fund and you're still complaining.
...and why does anyone care if it isa slush fund? Is that some sort of way to defend BP or insult the government's efforts in making BP shell out cash for the damage its caused? Either way, making BP pay will/should make them think twice about contaminating our waters, livelihoods and the planet.
Have you even given any thought as to the envirnomental impact of BP's actions? The sea waters serve a purpose. If the waters are filled with oil, it surely can't perform its natural task. I personally think this wicked crazy weather is a direct result of that. Its 68 degrees in California when it should be 85. Its 102 in New York when it should be 70.
Wake up and stop defending people who could care less about these things and care more about making money at all of our expense.
not to pick bones, but I have never once been in NYC in July and it was 70 degrees,...It gets super hot there in the summer,...
Rat Poison has apparently sampled too much of the product he has named himself for. He's obviously never run any kind of project or he would know that you have to spend money to set up the infrastructure by which services will be delivered AND the processes that will govern the evaluations of who is rightfully due reimbursement. If those deliberate SOPs (Standard Operating Procedures) were not carefully established first, then the accusations of the fund as a slush fund would be accurate.
I also suggest RP take a closer look at who will be independently adminstering this fund. It's the man that GW Bush himself chose to administer the 9/11 compensation fund, and who did an excellent job with unimpeachable integrity. There was no hint of mismanagement or excessive expenditure on overhead in that fund and RP shows himself very uninformed (at the least) in his vague and slanderous assertions.
ratpoison, please provide some type of proof or something legit regarding your statement. technically, it's slander. kind of unamerican there comrade. you are as bad as no jo regarding making things up. does everyone know that george bush had an affair with rush limbaugh? did you know brushing your teeth with chocolate bars is good for them? did you know that sean hannity never finished college? ok, that one is true. as you can see, we all can make things up and lie like you and no jo does (that actually is her day job since she does not seem to have one). way to keep your eye on the ball there chief.
by the way, the guy named ratpoison on here lives off of government welfare and can't find a job since he was convicted and sent to prison. prior to that, he was on disability for the same thing that got rush limbaugh out of the draft (look that one up).
Checklist, just what exctly is the checklist Ms. Tied-in-a-knot Angle?
The American people have a checklist and you and Sister Sarah, The Drugster, Beckster, Boehner, Paul, DO NOT pass any of the minimum standards to represent anyone other than a LOW-INFORMATION voter!
What Ms. Angle seems to fail to understand is that the "checklist" she is talking about exist in the form of regulations that set the minimum standards for proper operation of things. Those regulations that were in place that caused BP to be cited hundreds of times for violating, both during the Bush administration and the Obama administration, and the same regulation against which Republicans routinely protest, and continually try to gut and/or repeal, always asserting that corporations can be trusted to do the right thing on their own. We have seen over and over again how well that works, right?
As to Ms. Angle's ridiculous that an entire corporation shouldn't be punished for the actions of one person, I have two responses. First, given as many violations that BP was cited for previous to the Deepwater Horizon blowing sky high, it's obvious that more than one person was involved in negligent operations and that the corporation was aware of that, yet allowed it to continue, if not worsen. This clearly demonstrates that BP as a whole, all the way up to top management, had a negligent attitude to safety compliance. Secondly, given that the Supreme Court has recently classified 'personhood' upon corporations, it seems they would have even less ability to disavow responsibility for the actions of one of the components of their 'body corporate'. Could a human being (or person) disavow responsibility for the commission of a murder by saying it was their hand that did it and the hand should only receive punishment, rather than their entire selves?
Hey, Black Hills Laura - if you're in South Dakota - I just did 4 nights trying to stimulate your local economy with my family! LOVED every minute of it. Mt. Rushmore on the 4th of July - National Treasure. Stayed in Hot Springs and day tripped all over - missed the Deadwood/Lead/Spearfish Canyon of it - will have to get there my next time around! It's a great part of the country!
PS. Love this post, spot on!
BlackHillsLaura....I think you need to re-read Angle's view. She did not say that BP as an entire corporation should not be held responsible. She said that the entire oil industry as a whole should not be penalized for BP's fault to follow proper regulations here. And, when you read the entire transcript, you can see that she is still calling for BP to pay for this mess.
Clara KCMO... THANK YOU from the bottom of our hearts for visiting our beautiful area! We definitely were stimulated, er, I mean our economy was. In a way, I'm glad that you spent 4 days and didn't manage to see everything, because it means you didn't just skim through. Plus, we'd love to have you back to see what you missed this first trip. Did you make it to Custer State Park? Despite the offensive (to me) name, it is 77,000 acres of heaven with about 1500 head of free roaming buffalo.
We cut through the 385 and saw most of the range buffalo in Wind Cave National Park, then we did a full day's tour with Fort Hays Rushmore Tours, that was worth every penny and I didn't have to divorce my husband or anything! (I find you get a little more of the local flavor and history when you do a tour). We also had dinner at Blue Bell Lodge one night and lunch at Game State Lodge - so I guess you'd say we spent quite a bit of time at Custer. My son picked the Reptile Garden as his destination and I have to say - we LOVED it. It was a great exhibit, wonderful shows and the gift shop is one of the best I've ever been in, we bought a lot of gifts there! I can honestly say we didn't have a bad moment the entire trip. The few times we had rain we were otherwise occupied. Mammoth Site was my personal favorite and my daughter loved the horseback riding at Rockin' R (by the Crazy Horse Monument). Of course we loved being at Mt. Rushmore ON the 4th of July. That was great, too. The unanimous consensus is that we will definitely be back!
the fund was a huge boom for Obama.. and this chick is helping democrats... I love it...
bottom line is the oil company should be punished because the oil company was neglegent.
Cheney and Bush should be brought ot justice for de-regulation of th eoil industry and the obvious connections ot th eoil industry these 2 clowns had... They took care of thier buddies and now we all get to pay for it..
Why aren't the republicans upset anout the de-regulation of th eoil industry from Bush and Cheney... because they will only tote the party line.... rpeublicans will sell their grandmothers for cash if it benefitted their idealogies without guilt... they are not human beings....
ddaryl
I guess you would vote for a racist because he is a Demrat. Well dd at least Bush and Cheney didn't throw their grandmother under the bus for their ideology.
just the lives of over 4000 brave and true American troops in Iraq....
"rpeublicans will sell their grandmothers for cash if it benefitted their idealogies without guilt... they are not human beings...."
Republicans and Democrats are both selling out the middle-class for campaign cash. You think BP and other oil companies only support Repubs? Why do you think there has been no talk from DC about seizing BP assets or taking away their US leases?
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It was the same with the deregulation of banks. Repubs deregulate, then block the democrats from regulating, and then naturally blame the democrats when it all goes to hell.
Rather convenient, wouldn't you say?
$20b escrow a 'slush fund'
it is very easy for you to imput your four worded conjecture sitting pretty in NY, when all you have to worry about is 102 degree weather...its not even that hot here in florida; however, what we do have here on the "Gulf States" you know that states that actually see the gulf on a day to day basis, the states that are or stand to be affected, the states suffering from a lack of tourism, in the summer months; is the single largest ecological disaster spilling tar and crude oil onto the shores and into ever crevace of the gulf ecosystem, no doubt in turn affecting countless costal jobs and economies.
a company, like BP, for instance made over 93 Billion in profit in the last three years! do you really have pitty for them versus the family that survives off tourism or fishing alone? if it was not for this "slush fund" families would still be settling for $5000 and their right to sue waived.
although there is one positive aspect to this catastrophy, republicans wont be able to lie to the working and middle class people in these states about their taxes going up...i doubt many working class people in these states will be cracking more than $225,000 this year. i think they will be shocked to see the truth, their taxes did not increase; at all.
Reids comments on so many issues will make Angles comment meaningless.
Reids- About Obama-light-skinned” and said he had “no Negro dialect.” Oops I forgot liberals can say such things because they are well, liberals.
There are others.
why not list the others?
Wow,
Sharon does it again and then complains that Harry Reid wants to use her comments and views against and threatens to sue. She has been holed up in some cave somewhere, being forced fed conservative views, only does the talking heads of that point of view, but when a mainstream reporter gets her, she either runs or runs straight into her hyprocisy. This woman is an embarassment to any party Repubs or Dems if they we're crazy enough to take her. Remember folks, she wants to get rid of your Medicare, put your Social security into the stock market and thinks it would be safe there even after the last big fall, want to abolish the EPA, Dept. of Energy, and the Dept. of Education, and store Nuclear waste in the state of Nevada when it citizens don't.
People of Nevada, is this really what you want representing you in the do nothing Senate?
I despise ignorance, which is why I can't stand this woman. However, you're on the wrong track too. Nevada is the perfect place for a national nuclear waste site, regardless of what the people of Nevada believe. I have been loudly in favor of a site at Yucca for years. It's not your decision.
bob douglass,
Its their state, its citizens have a right to determine if they want Nuclear waste stored in their state, just like the people of Kentucky did. I have no say what goes on in Nevada because I don't live there, but its citizens shouldn't be voiceless when no matter how productive it would be to their economy. They have to have a voice in what is done in their state. You would want a say in your state if its governments decided to bring nuclear waste in your back yard right?
And exactley how close to your actual back yard will this nuclear material be stored? I've been to Neveda and ther's a whole lot of desert out there, sounds like a good place to me to store nuclear waste.
Captainthursday,
Once again, the citizen of Nevada said NO. What part of NO isn't being understood? Kentucky said yes, let them have all that waste because its citizens have dsaid they want it. But realize no matter how much desert there may be there, the Citizen have said NO. Are you saying because Nevada has so much desert, that the citizen's voice should be ignored? Would you want your voice ignored?
So she's a nut...the question is;
Is she nutty enough to somehow let Harry squeak back into office? The jury (and the whitecoats) is still out.
I can only hope that they are Coming to Take Her Away, Hee hee, Ho Ho, Ha ha, To The Funny Farm, where they Laugh and Play and Scream Rants all day, Hee hee, Ho Ho, Ha ha, at the Funny Farm!
it's
"They're coming to take me away
hahha hoho hehe
to the Funny Farm
where life is beautiful all the time
and I'll be happy to see
those nice young men
in their clean white coats
and they're coming to take me away...haha"
You probably are giving away your age by quoting Napoleon the 14th...I know I am...:)
nice reference...
I know Dangerfield, terrible isn't it. I figured some of you other, ahem, old timers out there would catch that...lol Of course, I COULD have gone clear back to my RennFaire days and piped up with:
For to see mad Tom of Bedlam, ten Thousand Miles I've Traveled,
Mad Maudlin goes on dirty toes for to Save her Shoes from Gravel,
And Still I sing bonny boys, bonny mad boys, Bedlam Boys are Bonny
For they all go bare and they live by the air, and they want no drink nor money....
Which is MUCH older than the other, but still speaks about the NUTCASES!
Thanks!!
They still have RennFaire BTW...
If you removed all the crazy people from politics...even crazier people would take their places...
I know they still have Renn Faires, I used to be a Swordmaker, for about 12 years, before my health made me stop working. Having one's neck rebuilt makes it difficult to do steelwork anymore. I used to do a lot of work for the Society for Creative Anachronism, which is a Medieval recreation group. They are avid students of history and they were my Major market for swords! I used to travel the entire West Coast going to different events every two weeks. I had to have that much time between shows to build stock and work on custom orders. As a result, I spent a lot of those 12 years studying History and it's effects on Countries and Populaces with respect to the wars and political/religious movements at various times. I also did shows with the Blackpowder/Mountain Man folks, Civil War Re-enactment groups and Science Fiction/Fantasy Conventions as well as Modern Knife Shows. Besides not being able to do the work anymore, I am also not able to travel anymore, more than 10 min in a car and I am one sore puppy!! NEVER Break Yer Neck!!
You are certainly right in that if we removed all the crazies, others would pop up to take their places...Case in point, Scary Sharon Angle and all of her ilk!
I hope she keeps talking--best thing the Dems have going in NV
So forcing BP to set up a escrow account to help the many Americans being effected by this disaster is NOT worth it? I am willing to bet if the President did not set up this fund.. right wingers everywhere would be complaining about his lack of leadership and whatever else they decide to moan about.
Its obvious to see everyone has something to say but NO one actually knows what they're talking about.
Oh yea.... I forgot Republicans once again show who THEY'RE really working for.
*kudos to the President for not letting Morons like Glen Beck, Scary Sherry, Palin and a host of others get under his skin*
Dezire1920
Obama setting up this fund, and this is just the start, 20 billion is just the start. BP has to clean up all the damage its done to the Gulf and its eco-systems which could take decades. The fisherman, the hotels, the citizens still scarred fro Katrina, all of them will get their share if the local and federal governments stay out of it. bobby Jindal is great at stating he wants smaller government but calls the Feds because he know's this is well beyond him and his state. The Repubs and some Dems want to get rid of the moratorium because ist hurting the ecomony in their states. Its only 33 wells, and its the exploartory wells in deep water. Not the ones onshore or the ones that are producing oil now. But its beyond me, I can't quite understand why anyone would want to start drilling again when this well is still spewing oil?
"$20b escrow a 'slush fund'"
Now that the Liar-in-Chief and the other "progressive" criminals have tapped out OVER A TRILLION in "TARP" and "STIMULUS" they NEED ANOTHER SLUSH FUND
The democrats are having trouble passing legislation to CONTINUE their corrupt UNION PAY OFFS
That is -- they are having TROUBLE voting on the floor of Congress IN THE LIGHT OF DAY
THAT TRANSPARENCY is NOT the style of OBAMA and THE PROGRESSIVES
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Have the democrats disclosed which big Wall Street CONTRIBUTERS made the most money off TARP yet?
How about how many union contracts Obama handed out for pitiful Gulf Coast Clean Up (forget stopping the Oil before it reaches shore--the unions don't do that--better to murder millions of pelicans and wildlife)?
PROGRESSIVES:Federal Abortion Funding and Wildlife Murder
madison, your comment "Liar in Chief" disrepects both yourself and the trailerpark you live in. please keep it respectable. please provide some evidence of what you are trying to say. without it, we can assume it is lies. liar liar pants on fire.
maybe we can call you Liar in NY?
Madison, TARP? Wasn't that Bushes baby.
Madison from NY
Are you saying the Repubs are more transparent? I f I remember correctly, Cheney to this day still hasn't release those at his energy summit when our National policy was drawn up in secret. I don't have access because I'm a independent, maybe you would because your a repub. The Bush/Cheney administration was the most secretive in decades. Emails lost, wiretapping ordinary citizen w/o a warrant, refusing to testify under oath, shall we go on? Are you upset because it was Obama and not a Repub who created this so-called "slush fund"? And as for contracts, don't forget Halliburton and its subsidaries had no bid contracts in Iraq. Or did that slip your mind. They've electrocuted American soldiers there, w/ their shoddy work. Maybe if they had hired union workers, we might still have those soldiers alive today. I forgot Repubs supposedly love America, or is it that they love businesses that don't pay taxes, and kill American soldiers right?
Hey, I / we have just found a perfect running mate for Sarah (flapping mouth) Palin - these two go together like sugar and cream. Both complete idiots, with no knowledge of what they spout.
Toss in a little Michele Bachman and you've got the 'twisted triplets'...
And to think... those 3 are the rising stars of the GEENOPEE! *shudders*
just kike she is.
I got Quimby elected and was going to "fix" this election too, but now that she's been exposed as a Jew even I won't be to get her put in office. I would love to stick around and chat wth you all but Chief Wiggum just showed up to collect my....uh, donation to the policeman's widows fund.
You people that are sticking up for the big company it is your right. Those companies don't really give rats a$$ about you taking up for them, unless you are an investor, if not you are a bunch of A$$$$!. You are willing to give the big companies the benefit of doubt, But you have a problem when there is somone standing for what is right and looking out for the environment. Me I prefer to stand with the ones that have a heart for ordinary people that did not ask to be in this mess. Bush and Cheny set everyone up for this, they knwe what the consequences would be. All they did was look out for their best interests and to hell with the rest of us. DAMN A BIG CORPORATIONS, THEY ARE NOT BETTER THAN YOU OR I.
Wow, the obtuse angle is at it aqain. the nerve of her!
It 's incredible that she has repeated her threat to sue reid for her intellectual ad??
Well, it would be something if the ad was intelligent.
(from anoter post)
USAFVET76
You said...
"ever notice the progressives typically support or include the most violent, hate-filled, anti-social members of society? Ayres, Black Panthers, Illegal Aliens, SEIU Thugs, Jesse Jackson, Al NotSo Sharpton, Farakhan, urban thugs (they say they got no education and that's why they are violent), and in some cases Muslim terrorists. I forgot the love fest they (Progs) had with Rev Wright.
And yet Progressives and our government (right now) attack "right wing" extremists groups and claim they are violent."
Ahhh, I see you subcribed to Beck U.
We liberal/progressives do not include the most violent, hate-filled, anti-social members of society. What you call hate as far as Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, Farakhan is in response to what your mentor the a$$wipper Glenn Becker distorts in his "I have A Scheme" dream and racist teabaggers, neo-nazi oath keepers, minute men, and closet KKK memebers.
Suddendly, Martin Luther King Jr. is Glenn Beck's BFFs
There is another racist, hate group which started based on the Boston Tea Party. It's called FOX NOISE.
FYI: The southern law poverty has designated the New Black Panther Party a hate groupand the orginal Black Panther Party denounces them.
the KKK in their campaign of terror against black voting rights, including Medgar Evers and Schwerner, Chaney and Goodman.
The murders of James Chaney, a 21-year-old black man from Meridian, Mississippi; Andrew Goodman, a 20-year-old white Jewish anthropology student from New York; and Michael Schwerner, a 24-year-old white Jewish CORE organizer and former social worker also from New York, symbolized the risks of participating in the Civil Rights Movement in the South during what became known as "Freedom Summer", dedicated to voter registration
Also people of color don't have their hand out wanting something for nothing. We don't teach hate either. We march/marched for rights that we really deserve.
*The right to vote
*Eating without the fear of death
*Walking without the fear of death
*The ability to get jobs we are qualified for
*We even served in the military in all of our wars, including the ones with George Washington, and died too, because we love America the way "Real Americans" do.
Yes, Americans throw at lot of stuff us and the President; but what does that mean for the rest of US?
Sorry we and Obama don't do a song and dance, or prostrate ourselves, when you tell us too. Neither will we allow you to hold US and President Obama hostage!!!
dangerfield
You said "If you would be so kind as to let me know which of my "lies" you would either like to "debunk" or correct, I will be happy to do my best to satisfy your curiosity."
I'm not your personal assisant. Try changing your Channel from Fox Noise's echo channels or google politifact.com and all your curious questions will be answers there.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/
dangerfield
"You said "If you would be so kind as to let me know which of my "lies" you would either like to "debunk" or correct, I will be happy to do my best to satisfy your curiosity."
I'm not your personal assisant. Try changing your Channel from Fox Noise's echo channels or google politifact.com and all your curious questions will be answers there."
Why didn't you re-post your crazy rant and give everyone a good chuckle?
I give you credit for 50% reading comprehension and applaud your much needed comic relief...
again
Democrat/Independent
Voted for the president
Only watch PBS...
Find overheated, angry, invective-laden diatribes...sad but funny...so thanks again...:)
Insanity abounds. There is no way to over react to this monumental man made disaster which is directly the product of deregulation by members of the last administration, who also happen to be neck deep in the poo of big oil. That being said, the current administration has failed miserably to take this situation in hand and has essentially left the Fox in charge of the henhouse, and has not adequately provided safety gear or realistic advice to residents of the Gulf that are directly affected by this spill, nor have they protected the rights of the clean up workers, and they have allowed an industry with the help of a foreign security service to upend the rights of citizens and free press agents who have a right to know every aspect of this giant flail that they are calling clean up operations.
In short, they all suck. Crazy or Stupid. Those are not choices.
You notice that the rightwing hatemongering youth killing Wussies have left it to their woman to fight their battles publicly. Mcconnell, Boehner Cantor and the whole bunch of C street weirdos do not show their stupidity but let their women Speak idiotically and hide behind their Skirts/Pants.,just like they do/did when it cames time to get drafted or volunteer for military service. Cheney and Bucahan and Limp Balls Limbaugh set the tone and the cowards line up and let the women fight their battle.
it's amazing people are so shocked at her words. only in the salons of 'high falutin liberals and progressives' should such sentiment seem extreme
based on my own travels in the admittedly more conservative midwest, it's what i hear people saying everyday. it is the prevailing sentiment in at least that part of the country.
anger at healthcare, cap-and-trade, big spending, the oil spill response and bp, gov't 'takeovers and bailouts' of banks and large firms and the background of 'liberal appointees' of the administration are being directed squarely at Donkeys.
sit down in a mcdonald's for a morning cup of joe or eat at the local diner at lunch time and it's all you hear the locals discussing. the only hope to change the topic these days is it's getting to be county fair time.
it could change by November, but if the election were held today Dems would be routed in the House and the Senate wouldn't be safe. it's way worse than any poll i've seen. people are mad as h*ll at a national level and they are gonna take it out the party in power. i don't think Dems can make the elections local.
You're right the people who I meet at the McDonald's should be the one's making the decisions for the whole nation. (People who aren't smart enough to avoid dining at McDonald's everyday.) If these people are directing their anger at Donkeys then maybe they should also not get their opinions/facts from the McDonald's breakfast crowd. They are misguided and need their collective IQ to jump up a few points to fully understand the issues at hand.
Not only should you refrain from using 'and' so frequently but all of these things are a direct result of the elephants leaving a big pile s**t in the room right before walking out.
"big spending, the oil spill response and bp, gov't 'takeovers and bailouts' of banks and large firms"
Enjoy your morning coffee talk!
What is popular is not always right and what is right is not always popular.
The majority of the American public do not exercise an appropriate level of critical thinking skills, even if they have them. It's so much easier to accept spoon-fed thoughts as facts, and regurgitate them, than it is to cut one's own intellectual meat. Thinking for ourselves, educating ourselves in order to more clearly discern fact from mendacious assertion, is too difficult, too boring, too scary or too time-consuming for many.
Not only that, but they don't seem to employ a very good memory about what their idols and Judas goats are saying now versus what they've said in the past. John McCain asserting he's no maverick and never was... really? check out almost all of his self-references from at least 2000 and forward until 2009.
It wasn't that long ago that people who spoke against GW Bush in terms much more mild than are being used against Obama today were accused of being anti-American, disrespectful to a Commander in Chief and boycotted and accused of treason. (Dixie Chicks saying GW Bush embarrassed them as Texans and Americans, anyone?) The conservative wingnuts and candidates who make statements about the 2nd amendment being put in the Constitution so people can address a government they don't like, better remember that one day their party will be back in power, as is one day inevitable, and then the gun will be in the other hand (instead of the shoe on the other foot). And then they might just find that they regret giving people ideas and the green light justification to act on them.
American people, please let's all step away from the edge so many are being shepherded to by inflammatory thought-leaders.
Awesome Post Laura
Maybe in time the Repubs will learn that if the Foo Sh!ts, Wear it! and that it is Not a good time to go swimming in the Gulf right now, as Any Seal can Plainly Foo!!
I think this slush fund is great for the recession as a lot of these business in the gulf and environs would have been under pressure anyway god bless BP for their avarice and their foreign appearance , we can blame the foreign devils and enjoy the funds
Drill Baby Drill!!!!