With the death of Robert Byrd, the presidential line of succession has changed. Hawaii Democratic Sen. Daniel Inouye will more than likely be the new Senate president pro-tempore.
Byrd, as the most senior member of the party holding the majority, served in the role of president pro-tempore. Under the Presidential Succession Act, that position is third in line to succeed the president: vice president, House speaker, and then president pro-tempore.
Senate tradition is for the majority party to elect its most senior member to the position. If that tradition continues today, Inouye is next is line. If Inouye declines to serve, Vermont Sen. Pat Leahy (D) is next in seniority.
*** UPDATE *** Shortly after the Senate opens today's session at 2:00 pm ET, Sen. Inouye will be sworn in as the new Senate president pro tempore, replacing Byrd according to a leadership aide.



Thanks for the Info: But I still have a question. If the Republicans were to someday regain the Senate, would a Republican be selected as President Protempore?
No more questions today...Promise.
Ron, it is in the article......"Senate tradition is for the majority party to elect its most senior member to the position". Therefore if (God forbid) the Republicans are ever in the majority than one of them would be the President Protempore.
For the record, the most senior Republicans currently are:
Senator Dick Lugar of Indiana
Senator Orrin Hatch of Utah
Could be worse. But that's just one reason why President Obama should always eat healthy and exercise daily.
Adler: Thank you: I guess I missed that sentence. Sorry.
One of my all-time favorite political novels - "The Man", by Irving Wallace - gives a fascinating fictional take on this subject. It's from the mid to late 1960's, so it's obviously somewhat dated, but still an interesting look into feelings at the time. In it, the Vice President has recently died of natural causes and a replacement not yet named when the President and Speaker are both killed in a building collapse while attending a conference in Europe. Everyone at first assumes the Secretary of State is next in line and this being the 60's are somewhat horrified to learn that it's the President Pro Tem instead - because the Senate, in an effort to appeal to the "Negro" voters, had recently voted that position to an African American, thinking it would never be more than a symbolic gesture, and Senator Douglas Dillman then becomes the first African American President. Lots of melodrama ensues - maybe too much, but this is a novel, after all. What I remember being interesting, though, is that a large faction who want the Southern (white) Secretary of State (who would be next in line) instead, launches a campaign to throw now President Dillman out of office, on the technical grounds that the Constitution reads he "shall act as" President, not that he actually IS the next President.
Guess the "birthers" aren't exactly a new concept, huh?
By the way, it was later made into a movie starring James Earl Jones, and like many movies, that one bore almost no resemblance to the original book, which was much better.
And since I wasn't sure who came after Secretary of State, I just checked and as I thought, Treasury comes ahead of Defense, which might also surprise some people.
I assume that Daniel Inouye was born in Hawaii prior to it becoming a state in 1959.
Wouldn't that mean that he's not a natural born citizen and not constitutionally able to become the next President?
Good Afternoon JoAnne in Pa: I'm not sure but I think, when it came to cabinet members, the line of succession is determined by when that cabinet position came into existance. That's why treasury beat defense.
My father came to this country as a child
He didn't have citizenship. But, he was GIVEN Citizenship prior to being sent to Germany during WWII .... It would be amazing if the same thing didn't happen to Daniel Inouye...
Daniel Inouye was a part of the 442nd 'Go for Broke' unit from Hawaii.... They were the most decorated unit in the Army during WWII ......
It was APALLING during the Watergate hearings. Sen Inouye said' What a Liar' under his breath... It was picked up by the microphone .... The guy testifying called Inouye a 'little Jap' ... Turned out, during WWII that lawyer DODGED THE DRAFT and was reperesenting German interests in court
WWII was the Good War, and most males served (NOT Ronald Reagan who later CLAIMED to have served) .... Yet the Bozo who called Inouye a 'little Jap' openly dodged the draft........
@Tom
Senator Inouye was born in Honolulu, Hawaii in 1924. At the time, it was an incorporated territory of the United States so, yes, if came to that, Senator Inouye is eligible under the terms of the Constitution to serve as President.
Barry Goldwater ran for President in 1964. At the time of his birth in 1909, Arizona was also an incorporated territory and not a state.
Ron - Hello and thanks for the clarification. Are you sure you wouldn't win on "Jeopardy!"? :)
Da Noid - Thanks for reminding me about Goldwater - I'd forgotten that one.
Da Noid, Thanks for making it clear. The birthers would be having a field day with that one. God forbit the necessity of having the President Protempore ever needing to be made President as suggested under the Constitution.
Da Noid,
Thanks. I guess George Washington wasn't really born in the US, since the US didn't exist when he was born.
I figured they made naturally born citizens a retroactive thing after statehood or something. Your explanation makes more sence.
Wait a minute - Inouye is from Hawaii - maybe he's not a legitimate American citizen either and we'd have another round of birthers should he succeed!
Not sure about this guy. Does he use a teleprompter? Read from prepared notes?? Accomplish 'too much' in his efforts to serve the citizenry???
I understand the joke but the GOP wouldn't dare go after Senator Inouye...even though they probably don't like the fact that he chaired the committee that held the Iran-Contra hearings.
If they did I imagine the appropriate response from Senator Inouye would be for him to point to where his right arm used to be and tell the story of how he lost it. Maybe he could also point to the Congressional Medal of Honor.
Here's a thought. Since bobby is not Piyush's given name, is anything he signs actually legal? Would an enterprising young reporter like to ferret out this info? Hmmmmmm... I wonder????????
Hey guys, I'm dealing as best as I can with the health issues. a national plan would be easy... merge VA, Medicare and medicaid together and guess what? national health plan. I'm afraid within a generation, you are going to see a major spike in cancer rates along the Gulf and of course national healthcare has been thrown under the bus, so we will not be ready for it. Great post Terry from another thread. I can remember when these companies were great... they still wanted a profit but they put America first... remember Sam Walton and his buy American? Now these corporations are"global" and realize that America is the only country left they can screw. Other countries regulate the hell out of them for their people. just look at drug prices in Mexico and Canada for examples.
Taker care guys I hope this post gets through two others did not.
Leon, I wish you well with your Health Issues, I have my own and having to deal with the VA and Medicaid is NOT a lot of fun, however, I do thank the Gods that I DO have medical coverage: dealing with the effects of a broken neck/munched back would not be a lot of fun without them, not much fun anyways, but I doubt that I would be alive now without them!!
James Earl Carter, Jr. signed his documents as Jimmy Carter. Those are considered legal signatures so if Jindal is recognized as Bobby, why shouldn't he sign as Bobby? I am not a fan of his but what is fair is fair.
B. Honest,
That speaks to my point, if there were universal coverage through a merger of agencies,it would cut down on the red tape and paper work for we citizens at least. It would be the same for all and more efficient. The government, hospitals and dr. offices could negotiate on how best to set up a pay system.Then dr's and hospitals could once again be more concerned about patients than making money.And yeah I said it because I have lived the nightmare. testing everything else under the sunEXCEPT for where the real problem is. I lived it before I ran out of money. Funny, when the money ran out they didn't care as much any more. That's my experience.
Yeah Leon, I ran out of money and ended up living on NOTHING more than Foodstamps, Public Housing (a tiny apartment with the bath room and shower down the hall) and State Medical and the VA medical for over 2 years. Before that I had to depend on my GF's good nature, which was a hellish blow to my self esteem, being a hard working, self-employed craftsman prior to that, with my own home, new pickup and my own business and market for my work. Then to not even be able to work at all...really brought me down to the bottom again. After fighting for SSDI for 8 years, I finally got it, only a year and a half ago, and was only given backpay (due to technicalities of timing) for 4 of those years!!!
I would LOVE to see all of our politicians have to go through a Public Poverty Experience Trial Period of about the same time (2 yrs minimum) with NOTHING more than those same resources (foodstamps, Public Housing in a Homeless Shelter type apartment and Medicaid ONLY with absolutely no recourse to their own wealth or ANY contact with their friends who might assist them in any way), and having to do all the same paperwork, running around and have to deal with all of the same governmental agencies like You and I had to, BEFORE they are ALLOWED to run for ANY office or position in the Government. I have an idea that it might, Just Maybe, change the opinions of what the political and bureaucratic classes consider the life of the poor to be like! Let THEM 'eat cake' for once and see how well THEY survive! It would be a game changer at the very least!
There, but for the grace of god, go I
Or goes nayone... We're all at risk .... hopefully, we call take care of our own citizens before wasting moeny on nonsense...
good luck to you
B. Honest -
Intriguing idea, but let's be honest (pun fully intended) - how many politicians do you think would last two months under your circumstances, let alone two years?
One of my co-workers - a Tea Party member, by the way - is constantly ranting and raving about people "freeloading" off of government programs. Of course, she's in her mid-50's and still lives at home with her mother, who does all the shopping, cooking, cleaning, etc., and my co-worker has been blessed to have not yet ever had any serious illness, nor has she ever been laid off from a job. I seriously don't wish her ill, but as someone who's experienced some of the same things as you and Leon above, I think a two-week "vacation" at your PPETP boot camp would be an eye-opening experience for her!
Best wishes to both of you.
Agreed Buddy, take care of yourself. I've been around here a long time off and on. I started right after the systems went back up from Sept.11 there are some good people on here that would love to help change the system for the better. Feisty(good as gold),Clara, Ron,Terry,CA(sometimes I'm not quite sure who he is though) and some others. They know government doesn't have to be thought of as evil and that they're not really coming to get us.
We the American taxpayer are paying for Iraq to have free national healthcare why can't we do the same for ours? Are we that worried about blue cross, aetna, wellpoint, bp, citgo, exxon?
some of our dems are part of the problem. hell, 15 of them even voted for bush's 2005 anti middle class anti bankruptcy law.
we need bumper stickers like some those college parents.. you know my money and my kid go (insert college) instead we could say my money and my kid go to iraq and afghanistan.
Thanks Leon and MSierra, I get by and enjoy my life, have a Great Lady that I have been with for a year and a half now, with her 2 kids (17 yr old boy and 9 yr old girl) and get to be a 'Daddy' type for the 9 yr old (no kids of my own so this is a very precious, first time and very rewarding thing for me.)
I actually started here on FR, under the same name, back during the runup to the primaries and general elections back in 2008 or early 2009, I think, when I found this blog and started posting. I could just NOT let some of the ignorant malicious and wrong things I saw posted by some of the right wingers and Clintonites of the time go by without saying something, so say I did, for over a year there I think. I have taken a break to gain my wind back (and deal with life issues) and am now back into the fray!! Thank You for the warm welcome though, I greatly appreciate it and look forward to playing Whack-a-Troll with you for the foreseeable future!
Take GOOD care of yourselves and I wish Everybody here (even those I may disagree with) a happy and healthy life filled with goodness! We all deserve that and I will work my best, doing my duty to my Nation, for just that!
Aww Leon... thanks for much for the kind words ;0)
Not sure if you know it or not but my Mom lost her battle on 12.31.09. I wasn't joking when I said I thought of you often... I also chewed out Mark & Domenico about your posts not making it through (a lot of good it did me :0)
LOVE the bumper sticker idea! lol
B. Honest... good to have you back in action! Congrats on the great lady & kidlets (not that 17 is a kid but you get my point!)
Who could forget the Democratic primary around here @ FR... whew... those were some good times! lol! I started posting sometime around Feb-March when Hillary refused to quit and have been here since!
FR is by far my favorite blog - the posters are what make any site and we have the BEST I've seen representing the lefties (and even a few on the right like Grimey).
Feisty, Yeah, the 17 yr old is no child, but more of a young man. Instead of trying to be a 'parent' for him, I have become his friend and gained his trust and respect that way. Thank You all for the kind words and welcome!! It DOES make a difference to know that others have been through similar sh*tuations, come through it alive, and have the same ideas out of it that I do! We Will Persevere!!
Adler,
It was just a joke, but jimmy is a common use nickname of james. Piyush is no where close to bobby or the formal robert. the point is bobby is not part of his true name. he actually tells the story of picking it up from the brady bunch chartacter and that is rather strange to me. I wish I could sign my documents as Phil then medical collectors would not know who they were talking to but alas... I am leon
Yeah Leon, a name like Phil N. DeBlanc for a signature would go a long ways towards leaving behind those pernicious medical collectors....
feisty one,
sorry to hear about your Mom,
no, I didn't know. After my probation apparently, I got annoyed and just checked in on you guys like once a month or so.BUT I could never forget you! I see some new names but miss some old ones. where's anita or that fella from colorado. he made alot of sense.I haven't seen jerry from corpus either. well gotta go, we're having our first storm in three months cable cut out and computer will not last long. Adios
Thanks Leon!
Anita will hopefully be back this week & I'm trying to think of who it was from Colorado? Nope Jerry's been long gone and Kenn too (remember him?)
Hunker down & ride out the storm (we've had some horrendous ones here in Chi-town all month & luckily I haven't lost power yet but not so lucky with Direct TV!)
Wait a minute! I think the scary part is - and with all deference to the recently departed - that Sen Byrd was 3 steps away from being president!
LoL Does anyone else ever think about the irony in the fact that all this "birther" nonsense comes from the same party that once-upon-a-time was seriously considering how we could get around the fact that Arnold Schwarzenegger wasn't born in the US. Sigh. I guess that nasty birth thing didn't matter so much if the "foreigner" was a republican.
Anyway, I'm perfectly satisfied if they skip Senator Inouye and move right on to Hillary Clinton. If, God forbid, that should ever come to pass. To facilitate that, they can skip Nancy Pelosi, too, as far as I'm concerned. (She ducks and waits for in-coming, mostly from her own party.)