President Obama headed to Ohio Friday as part of the White House's efforts to highlight the progress they say the stimulus package has made in pulling the American economy out of the worst recession since the Great Depression.
Calling America's infrastructure "one of the keys to our future prosperity", Obama visited a construction site outside a downtown children's hospital for the groundbreaking of the 10,000th stimulus-funded road project to get underway, one that is expected to create 300 jobs.
With the economy and jobs at the top of voters' minds this election year, the administration is keen to make the case for what Obama has done to turn the economy around and to paint Republicans as the party that stood in the way. Today in Ohio, the president made a point of thanking Democratic members of Congress for their help.
"We knew that if we failed to act, then things were only going to get much worse and that's why with the support of Ohio Sen. Sherrod Brown, but also members of the House of the Representatives Mary Jo Kilroy [OH-15], Steve Driehaus [OH-1] and Charlie Wilson [OH-6] who are all here. Wave, guys," Obama said. "That's why these folks worked so hard to pass the Recovery Act."
The Columbus event -- which marked the president's eighth trip to this important bellwether state since taking office -- kicked off what the White House is calling its "Recovery Summer", the most active season yet for stimulus projects. For the next six weeks, the president, the vice president and administration officials like Labor Sec. Hilda Solis and Agriculture Sec. Tom Vilsack will visit some two dozen stimulus projects around the country to highlight ramped up stimulus spending on infrastructure projects and the jobs they will create.
Obama touted the 4.5 million Ohio families who received tax cuts from the stimulus, the roughly 450 transportation projects that are underway or have been completed in the state and the more than 100,000 Ohioans who are at work today as a result of the law and said the economy nationwide had also been helped by policies his administration helped push through Congress.
"For the last -- six out of the last seven months, we've increased jobs here in the United States of America, in part because of the policies that these members of Congress were willing to step up and implement," he said. "
Critics say the $787 billion stimulus package has added to the deficit, while doing little to create jobs. The White House says the Recovery Act has already funded tens of thousands of projects and "saved or created" about 2.5 million jobs.
But the administration's message about the Recovery Act's positive effect on the economy doesn't seem to be getting through to the American public. Last month's NBC/WSJ poll, just 38% said the stimulus was helping to improve the economy or helping to improve the economy in the future.
Unemployment remains high at 9.7 percent and only about one-10th of the 400-thousand plus jobs created last month were in the private sector. Vice President Joe Biden yesterday stood by the administration's prediction that 90 percent of the jobs ultimately created by the stimulus would be in the private sector, even though many of the positions the law has "saved" so far have been those of teachers, police and firefighters.


With all the vitriolic BS from the right it is necessary for President Obama to have to continually remind people of the truth and debunk the claims of the liars on the extreme right.
No kidding Adler!
All you got to do is take a look @ FR today... It's like FAux & Freaks emptied the asylum and the right wing whack jobs have descended here to attempt a hostile takeover!
The repetitiveness of the same LIES & SPIN post after post is a waste of time & energy!
Feisty. my love...
You KNOW I never engage in lies and spin...and that my devotion to you is unabated...that said, I have a FACT especially for you:
Gallup reports today that, on the question of whether President Obama deserves re-election, 46% of those polled say yes; 51% say no.
As for the spin, Feisty...
You may begin...now.
Warmest regards,
Your own MB.
Hey, Bag Boy ... now I'm jealous. But perhaps your choice is wise. Spinning makes me dizzy, and is SO Tiny Dancer.
Hmmm...
I'm intrigued, Anna Molly...but jealousy is the wrong response. Pity would be more appropriate. I'm a compassionate guy...perhaps foolishly, I'm giving Feisty yet another chance to justify my devotion.
I wouldn't say I have high hopes...Feisty has way more capacity to deliver abuse than I have to accept it.
This can't end well, Anna Molly.
Well, I certainly would never interfere with anyone's true devotion. Lord knows it's hard enough to find. When and if it ends, be sure to give me a call. But don't look to me for pity, or for abuse. That's not what I sell. And it's not what you need.
Feisty,
Yep, they are crawling out from under rocks today in droves.
Yes indeed Retired... they're doing what they do best!
Not sure why... but they remind me of a bunch of cockroaches when you turn the lights on... lol
US Navy-
Can I give a shout-out to a fellow veteran without getting my head bit off?
Thanks for your service...hope you value mine as well.
Or is that too much to ask?
MB
Feisty...
Are you really calling me a "cockroach"...?
After all we've meant to one another?
Mixed... please accept my apologies... What WAS I thinking?
What do I have to do to make it up to you?
I'm thinking maybe Anna Molly could serve as an independent, non-biased arbitrator here.
I believe she could come up with suitable acts of contrition for you.
I trust her judgment completely.
That is, I believe I might trust her judgment...
Somewhat...
Under certain conditions...
If there's a full moon, for example...
Whoa... Agreed Mixed... What say you Anna Molly?
And what's wrong with Full Moons? ;0) They're bright and shiny and bring out the worst in people (at least in traffic)!
In the meantime... I guess cuddling is out of the question.... :0(
Did he happen to mention the $50million that was given to a casino in Las Vegas to the dozens of construction workers who had their hours cut as a result of his visit?
I wonder if he's got their votes-somehow, I doubt it.
I'm not sure why I'm bothering... but maybe just maybe for once you can give us the 'source' of your tidbit?
In the meantime... here's a scooby snack for ya!
No Joe- One last time:
Everybody likes a little ass, nobody likes a smart-ass. Got it?
Knick-Knack Patty Whack, Feisty- give the dog a bone.
No Joe (and Feisty)--
I believe that this is what No Joe was talking about, although the incident occured in Connecticut and not in Las Vegas, and it appears that the casino did not receive any of the recovery money.
http://www.courant.com/business/hc-mohegan-sun-federal-loan-20100618,0,4428919.story
Eddie Hall. Thanks for the link, it was a loan to an Indian tribe and not stimulus money.
I don't bother with NJNB much any more; when someone sticks their head in the sand, they can't see or hear anything.
No JO - you always spout out these negative crapola without ever citing your sources. Several times I have tried to google some of the "stuff" you say but come up with Zero.
So bottom line I don't have all the time in the world to check your nonsense - so I will continue to not believe anything you ever write - unless you CITE your SOURCES. Of course if you cite Fox I will know they are falsehoods.
Ellie Hall
No Joe (and Feisty)--
I believe that this is what No Joe was talking about, although the incident occured in Connecticut and not in Las Vegas, and it appears that the casino did not receive any of the recovery money.
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But, OTHER than THAT JoJo reached her usual level of Credibility, right ??
Where do the flying saucers figure in this, JoJo ?
Bada BOOM!
AllBlow... WRONG again!
And Ellie THANKS for the link ;0)
Sierra ~ Flying saucers always figure in ... right after the mummy returns and we find the treasure hidden in the basement of the Louvre.
But what's that got to do with credibility? ;)
Anna Molly - Mixed Nuts is all yours (he enjoys the abuse too much for my taste)!
Don't forget to toss him a snausage or two... rumor has it they're his favorites.. ;0)
I don't know, Feisty. He professes such devotion to your divineness. I never play second fiddle in a one-man band. It's all or nothing for me.
The story is about his visit today in Ohio. Oblivious to the needs of ordinary Americans. I don't think he gets it --- how being unemployed is an issue and families are struggling.
COLUMBUS, Ohio --
Some construction workers are upset that they will lose up to $200 in wages due to President Barack Obama's visit to Columbus Friday.
A construction worker contacted NBC 4, saying he would lose up to $200 in wages because of security measures surrounding President Obama's visit Friday. The President will be near the corner of Parsons and Livingston avenues just after Noon to participate in the groundbreaking of a road project funded by the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act.
A White House Spokesman, Matt Lehrich, issued the following statement when asked about the issue:
"While security concerns surrounding a Presidential visit necessarily cause some disruption, we're heartened by our understanding that, even if delayed by a day, workers will have the opportunity to complete their scheduled work on these projects."
After several attempts to contact the construction company, Turner's Corporate media department released the following statement:
"Turner is proud to have the $480 million Nationwide Children's Hospital expansion projects highlighted during the President's visit to Columbus. While work will be halted during the visit, Turner and our clients and partners plan for these contingencies and the projects will continue to provide important construction jobs in the community through the scheduled completion in 2012."
Construction workers typically do not work on days with inclement weather and lose wages on those days. Some say this is similar situation because the work will still have to be completed on another day.
Some parents and patients at Nationwide Children's Hospital said they understood security measures had to be taken, but they sympathized with the workers losing a day's wages.
"Well I don't really think it's right," said Danita Blain, whose son was a patient. "They are working and everybody wants to help the economy. If they shut down, they can't work. They're losing their job pay. They're losing money out of their pockets," she said.
The problem Obama is having with selling the Porkulus and HCR is he is trying to convince the American people to eat these two chocolate-covered turds by telling them how good the chocolate coating will taste in their mouth. Most Americans are smart enough to realize he's really trying to get them to swallow a turd.
"....by telling them how good the chocolate coating will taste in their mouth"
As opposed to how good it will taste in their _________?????
Did he mention that there are no jobs created by the stimulus? What happens when the money runs out? All these people will be out of work again. hmmm...
In talking about the jobs that were saved, this article seems to be talking only about direct jobs. However, that ignores the multiplier effect of any form of spending. When I go to the grocery store, my spending doesn't just help the store owner. It helps the employees of that store and the people who supply goods and services to that store. The owner, the employees, and the suppliers then go out and spend the money that they received as a result of my spending at (for example) a clothing store which benefts the owner, employees, and suppliers of that clothing store, etc.
Exactly right.
It's beyond me how the right, which prides itself about free-markets, does not connect the dots between stimulating the economy in a recession and the impact it has on those free markets to grow. But then I remember, they DON'T WANT TO GET IT because it would prove their ideology about government wrong. They cannot acknowledge there are times, like the financial collapse of 2008, when only Government can do something to halt the fall.
Actually, I think the point you sare missing is the negative effect borrowing and gov't spending have. When the gov't borrows to spend, it places a future burden on the economy that grows with time (interest). In addition, since gov't spending does not create any long term asset (i.e. future income generation) and increases the cost of capital (i.e. reduces the available capital thereby increasing the cost of capital...some may call it supply and demand), this pattern results in a contraction in the economy. Of course, we have not even touched on the effect increasing the money supply has on inflation
It is time the left begins to understand there is no free lunch. In economic matters, the govt will never be the solution because it is a non-income producing drag on the systems. If your so called multiplier effect was accurate then the solution to all problems would be for the govt to borrow, spend , and printing money. Ask your hero Jimmy the Nut Carter how that worked.
No Joe (and Feisty)--
I believe that this is what No Joe was talking about, although the incident occured in Connecticut and not in Las Vegas, and it appears that the casino did not receive any of the recovery money.
http://www.courant.com/business/hc-mohegan-sun-federal-loan-20100618,0,4428919.story
Let me tell you how intelligent this guy is and how he is always two-three steps ahead of those on the right and the republicans.
Here is Obama's mental agenda:
Give speech on oil spill and shake down BP for a 20 billion dollar escrow relief / clean-up fund that will get some reactions from the right, some of which we'll use to paint them as friends to big oil.
Then while those on the right are attempting to defend themselves and I leave some staff here to keep the heat on the republicans (without getting into the middle of it myself) I'll be off to Ohio to talk to the people about the stimulus package.
Then after my trip to Ohio that will again get some "re-active" comments from the right about the stimulus package, and while this is all being played out on Fox news and other media outlets, and after I assign a few staff to repsond to the right on their stimulus complaints (without me being in the middle of it), I'll scoot down to the gulf to shake hands with a few folks thanking me for the 20 billion relief fund.
Then after my trip to the gulf that will get some more "reactive" comments from the right, and while this is being played out on Fox news and other media outlets, and after I assign some staff to dig back at the republicans for their complaints about the relief fund (without me getting into the middle of it), I'll jump up to Indiana to talk to some seniors about those provisions of the HCR Bill that will benefit them.
And then, and then..................................
You have to love it. The master at work.
Oh, this is just so good! Clever; I know Obama's way ahead of most everyone but this was such fun to read--a week's journey connected.
By George, CA ... I think you've got it. Obama has already boxed in John Boehner and given him no way around. Everyone else just sounds shrill by comparison. A twenty-billion-dollar shakedown is just what the doctor ordered.
Wow CA, you sure have been drinking the kool-aid. And since this post got so many votes, I'd say your fellow lefties have been drinking the same brew. How in the world do you figure this guy as being two or three steps ahead of everyone? I support Obama's recent strongarm tactics with BP, but that came on what, day 58 of the leak? Where was he the other 57 days?
He goes to Ohio to talk the stimulous package. So what? He's talked the stimulous package repeatedly and most folks still aren't buying his story. So I could make a case that he needs to talk stimulous because people don't believe him, not because the stimulous was such a fabulous success (it wasn't).
The he goes to the Gulf for a photo op with the grateful residents? Rather tawdry, wouldn't you say? Crass politics, pure and simple, and not exactly the most original idea in the world. But I'll grant you he didn't wave a 'mission accomplished' banner.
And then he goes to Indiana to talk HCR with seniors. And why is that? Because seniors are the biggest group of non-belivers about HCR. Most folks haven't bought his fiscal stimulous story but even more seniors have rejected his HCR story. So he's not in the mode of touting the supposed benefits of HCR to seniors, he's desperately in the mode of trying to harvest any slivers of support he can from that group.
I read your stuff occasionaly and you're certainly more thoughtful than many of your leftist colleagues around here. But this post was a loser, comes across as written by someone blinded by the light. And that's one of my issues with the Obama crowd around here, you all tend to see him through a lens that softens his (considerable) flaws. Others with a different view of clarity see a distinctly different man, and not a particularly attractive one at that.
BTW, my intent was not to be offensive. With the new format, at least in my case, I've noticed a reduction in mindless drive-by shootings. So accept my comments for what they were, a perspective from the right which is at odds with yours.
Okay, he may be clever. Wouldn't it be better though for all of the country if he realized he already won the presidency. Instead of all of this clever political posturing, clever photo ops, and friendly audience speeches, couldn't he stay in the White House and actually do some governing? We don't need a clever politician. We need a competent president to pull the country together rather than splitting it apart.
Bill Fairfax:
Thanks for the comments. Your thoughts from the right are appreicated. They will receive no criticism from me or left-leaning tongue lashings. I didn't see any childish, irrepsonsible labeling or name-calling in your comments to me.
Let me say Bill that it appears you are assuming that I have concurred with and admire all of Obama's decisions and actions. That I support the stimulus package as is, the HCR Bill as is, our continued presence in Iraq and Afghainstasn as is. repealing the don't ask - don't tell policy, his handling of the oil spill issue, his suprme court nominees, his handling of the economic crises, his foreign policy strategies, his call to pass some form of immigration reform, his handling of his opposition (republicans), his department and agency appointees, his attention to equal pay for equal work for females, etc., etc. Well I don't Bill. But what I have admired is the number of issues Obama has attended too in the short time he has been in office and the stocism shown based on the seriousness and immensity of some of these issues.
Actually Bill while the announcement of BP's 20 billion dollar clean up contribution came on day 58 those strong arm tactics you speak of were being applied by Obama since shortly after the spill. Perhaps not directly face-to-face with the BP executives but by way of building public anger to the point that BP had no other choice but to cave.
As far as the stimulus package and HCR Bill let's stay away from generalizations like "still" and "most" . Neither you nor I can be assured that "still" "most " are opposed to these issues as specifically defined. Oh I know, you can point to polls that indicate this is the case but we both know that polls have serious validity problems. If a pollster were to ask me did I agree with bailing out wall street I might say no. The t hose opposed to the stimulus package would have used this information and add me to the opposed Obama's stmiulus package list. But if the same pollster asked me did I prefer a serious recession (that included bailing out wall-street) versus a serious and deep depression, I would have chosen the recession. Get my drift Bill?
And if a pollster asked me do I agree with the HCR Bill, I would say no. But the pollster would not note next to my name that although I do not like the Bill because I preferred including a public option I will accept the HCR Bill for now and as passed as a starting point.
So you see, these terms like "still" and "most" as they relate to who supports Obama and his policies and who does not don't really tell us the whole picture , do they Bill?
I ddin't post the comment you responded too Bill in order to try and defend the stimulus package, HCR or how Obama has handled the gulf oil spill crises. I did post those comments to simply show that while people will respond to the loudest and most criticial because it is easier to be loud and critical (negative), there is an undercurrent of change of attitude that is occuring with Americans that when it surfaces will show that Obama has more support then you may think. And that part of this is due to a strategy by Obama to avoid the negative while staying pro-active (even if you don't agree with what he is doing or his policies) versus the republican stratgey of touting and pushing negativity and functioning with a reactionary tone rather than one of pro-activity.
Is there what some might define as an unattractive side to Obama? I would say you bet their is Bill. It is a side of Obama who when he feels it is necessary he will play those Chicago politics. He will shake people down. He will allow that cold and calculating part of him to surface to the point of destroying someone if he felt it was necessary. Frnajkly, I would not want to be o t he receiving end. But what of it Bill. Do you think anyone becomes Presdient without possessing some of these characterestics. Do you believe any Presdient who finds it necessary to twist arms now and then to get things accomplished can do so successfully without possessing some of these characterestics?
I respect your opinions Bill but like I told no joe write this down. Obama will be relected in 2012 by a margin of 52% - 55% of the vote. And the reason he will be re-elected is because although you and others may bnt like any of his policies and others may not like some of his polices they will be looking hard at the opposition for any viable and valid reason not to vote for Obama and to vote for the other person. And what will they see? They will see Obama who although may be no different than any other politican is pro-active and tends to avoid the continuous negative conflict and campaiging that many rely on in their attempts to become elected. And they will see that their choices on the right also not unlike other politicians have been and are reactive rather than pro-active, and who will spend the entire elec campaign trying to tear Obama down rather than to build themselves up.
People may not like all or some of Obama's policies Bill, but people like Obama, and they will not respond well to the current and most likely on-going right - republican strategies to dethrown him. To be honest I think you are already aware of this.
I've said this over and over and over again; the polls that we keep getting from MSM aren't to be taken as viable poll numbers. Whether they be to the advantage of this administration or against it. Anytime polls are conducted where questions asked by the poll takers are worded to suit a response at will; we must NOT consider them as being accurate. Anytime polls are taken with the majority being taunted as being 1044 people...need I say more.
As for the effects of the stimulus-- in this city alone high school and college students are being employed in summer job programs as a direct result of the stimulus package. We are slowly progressing form a depression that as been down played by MSM as being a "deep recession".
Anita,
Nice touch. I do not believe polls myself unless I can see the questions they are asking and if they are using a large enough data sample (which most do not).
I feel polls are just a tool used my media again to manipulate how and what we should think. THe is a reason why so many of them are wrong.
When the Rasmussen poll called me Wednesday night, I paid close attention to the questions. Some were fine but quite a few were a bit leading or worded, in my view, to get the most negative response.
While not changing over night the economy in California is improving. Unemployment claims are negative and people are going back to work. It would be nice if millions could "presto!!!" be back to work tomorrow but it doesn't work that way. It took time for them to all be laid off and it will take time to return them into the workforce. Infrastructure is improving through the stimulus and we are seeing more small businesses finally feeling more comfortable about staying in business.
Thanks Us; that is exactly what's happening. The Majority of us American are really pleased with The President's performance and his reaction and action's he has taken on all of these catastrophes that we are facing in this nation and the Corporate arm of MSM is attempting to re-write his actions and manufacture and milipulate actions of the public.
They are failing and will continue to fail as long as we have access to the internet and technology. They will be dinosaurs if they don't get on-board and give us what we have need to research...FACT. We are savvy consumers and the games they are continuing to play are so out dated that it's laughable.
This is exactly what I've been referring to and we need to make it know to many that perhaps rely on those polls. they are designed and manipulated by MSM to continue to create a climate that will sway public opinion and elections to benefit their selfish greed.
What is really happening is the fact that they continue to use those polls because there are still many people that consider media as being reliable sources-- when in reality they are more than entertainment verses actual viable resources. How many times have we received inaccurate news reports that have had to be walked back and corrected by us? Many times...
If it wasn't for you putting this out here no one would know it because we aren't getting a truthful representation from our supposed news sources. Thanks for the report.
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Think Progress:
D@mn right it's been resolved! Rubio ain't payin'! Everyone else will pay more to make up for this high-class deadbeat!
Hey Pat, Boston - great news that Eric Holder is going after the corrupt conservative mortgage fraud crowd and that 500 are already in his dragnet. Finally we have an honest Attorney General who works for the "small people" against the big corporate flim flam scam conartists.
Did you catch Tony Baloney Wayward Hayward's Alberto Gonzo Gonzalez's "I can't recall" defense yesterday? Definitely sounded like Tony Baloney was coached by our most corrupt Attorney General ever.
Not surprised that Credit Card Criminal Rube Rubio is caught up in his own mortgage fraud mess, he's a tea bagging criminal who is trying to steal his way into power so he can ensure he can continue his economic fraud without being bothered by law enforcement. I hope Eric Holder gets after this tea bagging fraud.
Eric, I have one, and only one comment for you. No, actually, two.
Damn, you type fast.
And these nicknames?! lol
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And yes, cheers to our Justice Department. Governing is a process. It is never an overnight success.
Has Eric "Free The Terrorists And Open Our Borders" Holder bothered yet to read the AZ illegla alien bill? Seems like the AG of the USA should do that before he opens his mouth. Until then, he's not credible on anything anyway.
Thanks, Pat, this is good news.
Makes me wonder why the good things done by this administration get so little coverage on the MSM and in the papers. Even my local, small town paper tends to put the negative things front page and the positive buried among the advertisements. Chuck Grassley gets front page, Tom Harkin gets page 4--but the right complains the media has a liberal bias.
Something tells me Rubio hit his peak just before the primary; the steady drip, drip of negative news from personal use of GOP credit cards to housing foreclosures will hurt him.
Pat ~ what do you want to bet that there's no money left to get?
So, we should'nt have spent a dime of federal money on anyone...just cut taxes to the rich and big business and hope, hope that the pennies trickle down to the little man, i.e., the middle class. Hmmm..sounds a lot like Reaganomics, which even Bush I called voodoo economics, and all reputable economist debunk.
So, I'll ask this for the last time this week, Why do Republicans hate America so much?
Thanks to the Stimulus, the municipal parking garage at the Long Island Rail Road Huntington train Station is getting a face lift.
In your face neo-cons!
So the Snake Oil salesman has hit the road again. Lets hope he rolls up his sleeves before he begins his pitch, ehh, speech.
One would imagine that the business that has made the most out of the "Obama Stimulus" is the company that makes those "Project Funded by the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act" signs.
Do you think that the business that makes those signs doesn't hire Americans? Do you think none of them pay taxes? How is this a problem?
Paul:
huh? So, the government borrowed money from China to enact a stimulus that was used to hire Americans to make signs and then the signmakers will give some stimulus money back in the form of taxes?
did I get that right? Why not scrap the whole process? You're saying that the country will benefit from the income taxes and sales taxes of businesses and workers who were given stimulus money.
If I borrow $500 from "Peter" and use it to hire "John" and then "John" give me back 15%, I still owe $425 to "Peter" and I have nothing to show for it. And the best part is "John" is out of work again.
Has the current President done anything which you agree with? Anything at all?
Imagine, indeed. Which is what one has to do with most of your posts, JoAnna -- imagine the facts. Because there hardly ever are any.
JoAnna Where do you live?
Congress, not President Obama. Gave permission for the funds for those signs.
Let me know how your congress person voted for them. Do you know who your congress person is?
Sandy - Shame on you! Silly wrabbit... JoAnna lives under the bridge with the rest of the trolls! :0))
JoAnna,
I am waiting. Each state has 2 Senators. You live in a district, which has one representative.
Do you know how your's vote in Congress? Bashing the President does not sit well with me,
unless the person doing the bashing, has a clue how government works!
Good luck with that Sandy... JoAnna tends to disappear for a while after she gets her a@@ handed to her!
Ps: I hope you know I was only joking with you about the silly rwabbit! Have a great weekend & hope to see you next week!
Fiesty, Have a great weekend.
I lived on North Rush, Chicago 1968 Democratic Convention and the riots.
Completed my education as a Navy wife for 25 years. See you all next week.
I was too young to partake in the riots (actually was on vacation with my Grandparents in San Diego at the time)!
Anyway, I couldn't help but think of the history when I stood in Grant Park 40 years later on election night!
Have a good one!
Ray Lahood has announced the start of our rail system construction...sadly due to the lack of coverage by the media that bit of "important news" was by-passed by rhetoric that yields better ratings.
Hey Anita - how true our worthless LameStream Media are nothing but prostitutes for ratings instead of being like Walter Cronkite and telling us like it is. Well we just have to start trashing our LameStream Media everytime they fail to report the real truth and ignore them when they lie until their ratings tank to the point that they figure out they need to change their corrupt reporting ways. The rail system will create new jobs that will last a few years, although it will be too limited in areas served. We need a national magnetic levitation rail system that spans our country from coast to coast.
Eric: I totally agree with you and I fully intend on leaning on them (media) because without us; they WILL not exist. It is our duty as American citizens to DEMAND that they do the right thing.
As far as the Rail system; it will take Republican Governors to get off of their asses and support the connection of the project. Hopefully with Riley (R) out Sparks (D) in and a new Mayor in Birmingham (William Bell-- he's a Friend) we will make progress in that area.
Furthermore-- with the connection of the new light rail system, the continued spin-off of jobs will be the best long term on-going start of moving our nation into the 21st century. I think that as the project gets under way and the people in the "deep" southern states breeding hate fanned by the Republicans will realized that they are being short changed by using President Obama as the bogeyman.
Eric-
You really need to give a shout-out to Bernie Greenberg.
He popularized what's become your favorite new phrase..."lamestream media"!
And note Eric...I did not say he "originated" the term (but, we both know YOU didn't "originate" it...right, Eric?).
I just love it when you parrot Fox-favorite Bernie Greenberg...
It just shows me how oblivious (and unoriginal) you are most of the time.
Actually...you really specialize in stale DNC talking points...
Don't you?
I was in Virginia Beach, VA a few weeks ago and I saw the light rail system that IS BEING FUNDED by stimulus monies. Without the stimulus monies, the rail project would NOT have been fininshed. Although you are problably not hearing much from the very RED state od Virginia, the people there CANNOT WAIT until their light rail is operational. The businesspeople are already drooling NOISILY over how much business that light rail system is going to generate.
Pietro ~ You surely know that government spending is always bad until it's YOUR interest that's the subject of the spending. It is a scientific fact that the money for YOUR project, in contrast to money used for other government spending, grows on trees and is an ever-renewing resource. The only deficit involved -- or at least that you'll ever hear about -- is that there's never enough.
Pietro:
I knew about this some time ago because I Friend Ray Lahood on Face book-- MSM needs to get its chit together and start giving it to us straight..but if they chose to continue to overlook facts...I'll gladly produce some of my own and so should the rest of us.
Of course they are drooling because the light rail system will generate so much excess business and jobs that the Republicans don't want the hopes of people raised because it will be a victory in this Administration column; but you can BET they will attempt to capitalize on the project, lie and make it their own especially since they've been saying that the stim failed...
Anna Molly,
That's too funny, and yet, oh so true.
Pietro, light rail in Virginia Beach has been in the works for over a decade. Like most projects, it's run horribly over budget and its initial completion date was two or three years ago...and it's still a few years from completion. The stimulus had no impact on it, Pietro, otherwise it might be nearer to completion. And this state went for Obama, it's not a 'very red' state.
Well hot Damn Lizzard! Thank for solidifying the fact that the LIGHT RAIL system was stalled in Virginia due to failure of the previous Administration's 8 year tenure of making sure that "anything" worth while (outside of war spending) was necessary.
Why our crumbling infrastructure and the oil leak in the Gulf is another fine example of inadequate leadership (for lack of a better word) that didn't give a rat's ass about creating ANY jobs but lining the pockets of themselves and those of their Friends. Actually new job growth has increased under President Obama and he hasn't even been in office TWO years.
If the Stimulus hasn't had an impact on it's near completion...then I'd like to know where the funds and the tenacity to complete the MUCH needed project came from.
Nice Smack Down Anita on ShortPump!
Hey Red!
Thanks; Pam is out here again with her bullsh!t. I'll have to tell you all about it later tonight! LMAO!!!
REALLY? Hit me up on FB GF I want details all the dirty details LMAO!
Anita, you are an idiot. Funding for Tidewater's light rail was a city council fiasco. It was not a job for the federal government.
The idiot was the person that gave birth to you that mated with your cousin...Yo Daddy! Oh I've got your idiot.
Since I've established the fact that your ass is slow-- let me explain this to your stupid butt. The MONEY for the funding of City Projects came from the stimulus dollars. Please tell me that I'm wrong and I'll prove to everyone that reads these postings what a dense ass you are, I'll be waiting fro your response and proof to debunk my knowledge...
P.S. Your light rail funding should have came from a State level via the federal government!
Maybe Obama can go to Nevada with his good friend Harry Reid. Nevada now has the highest unemployment rate in the country - 14%, something both Obama and Reid can be proud of as they both seek re-election, Reid this year, and Obama in 2012. Unless Obama decides not run and instead becomes Ambassador to the World or something.
Instead of telling us all over and over how Obama's such a failure, why don't you try a new angle, and tell us how well McCain and Palin would have handled all the various issues 'out there' today? Please be sure to include; Israeli blockade, Iran Nukes, North Korea sinking South's ship, Economic Recovery, Financial Reform, Oil disaster in Gulf, Afgahnistan, and all the sedition being perpetrated by home-grown enemies hiding in the Republican party?
Can you do that for us, JoAnnaSmith?
Drive-by - LMAO... are you hitting the Bud's early by chance? I take one if you are...
Nash & I are having some popcorn and we've saved the old maids just for you! lol
Meanwhile - AllBlow is devouring her Scooby snack & Mixed Nuts is savoring his snausages... :0)
Drive-by ~ Now I'll have nightmares. Of course, I had nightmares before, but these will be REAL nightmares. Sheesh.
Sorry to have induced the nightmares. Bud's all around, Mr Bartender. On the Observer, of course. I'm buying 'em from the money I stole from the rich, and gave to me.
Hell yeah... I'll drink to that!
Another round for the Robin Hood's lol
I don't characterize it as selling the stimulus but rather reminding the American people what the stimulus has done and continues to do. It's good PR; people appreciate Pres Obama coming to meet and speak to them. If the media did a better job of reporting the projects, showing people at work, reporting on the success of the stimulus, President Obama wouldn't have to go there in order for the press to "show up".
Connecting with people, whether they voted for him or not, should be an integral part of any President's job--whether president of a company or the USA. What better way to remind people how important they are than for the President to come tell them. I don't think the media or republicans will ever catch up with this guy--he's just too far ahead of their thinking.
I'm sure the 12 million people who are still unemployed will be thrilled to see on t.v. those 2 million jobs saved or created.
There is a road near my house that's under construction because of the stimulas package. Of course, it was going to be under construction anyway -- the project was in the works for a couple of years. I drive through it every day. And every day there are 4 guys working out there. That's good.
Only 11,999,996 more Americans to go and we'll have decent employment.
If so many Americans weren't so braindead, you know the limpwristed conservative crybabies, President Obama wouldn't have to keep selling the successful stimulus package that saved us from our Bushwhacked Double Dip Recession economy from going totally bust like the Great Depression. If it weren't for the stimulus we'd be seeing a larger percentage of unemployed. Let's not forget that the repugnant ones wrecked our economy with their deregulation and allowing the Wall Street Criminals to play their dastradly illegal scams that nearly destroyed our economy a few years ago.
One problem with our instant gratification society is that now Americans think every problem can be solved immediately, no they can't. There is no quick fix to stop BP Oil's gushing oil leak, there's no quick fix to clean up BP Oil's massive oil mess in the Gulf and there's no quick fix to repair the damage done by the repugnant ones during their reign of economic terror. It will take many more years to repair the damage wrought by Ronny Raygunz, Daddy Oil Bucks Bush and Corrupt Corporate Criminal George Wrong Bush.
Used to be that Americans used to be frugal and patient and worked hard to solve problems, now the braindead corrupt repugnant ones think that they can do everything instantly and that is the Great Right Lie! Now thanks to the repugnant ones we have become spendthrifts who save nothing for the future and are too impatient and lazy to work hard and patiently to solve our problems.
So stop your incessant childish whining repugnant ones and try doing something constructive like working to solve the problems you fools of faith wrought upon us all!
Eric,
Could you help us with an explanation of your continued reference to "limpwristed"? It sounds a bit homophobic? And you do seem to be a bit hostile to women...maybe you need to get in touch with your feminine side. Don't worry, we don't care who you actually sleep with...or even who you just dream about...DADT;-)
Seriously, we all know your are nuts (The Great State of Bankruptcy...California...says it all) but do you have to be such an offensive A$$? The question is rhetorical...we know your do. At least, be PC...not pea brained.
This is good
But WHY not do a PRESS CONFERENCE ?
You reach more people that way What's the problem with holding press conferences ?
The Presidency is a 'Bully Pulpit' only if you use it
Look how Reagan was able to sell NONSENSE to the American people with some sanke oil and communication skills
Obama should be able to do better with the truth
I think Jody's point goes to this. A press conference is very impersonal and though it may reach more people, it doesn't make people think they are important enough for the President to want to speak to them face to face. My example would be that I live on Maui, and the President never came to Maui to campaign. His sister came twice, but he did not. I would have loved it if he had been able to make time to come to Maui. It would have shown his appreciation for all of us on Maui who worked hard to elect him. We understand why he didn't come, but the feeling we are left with is different than it would have been if he had come here personally. (Dennis Kucinich was the only candidate who came to Maui to campaign.)
Thanks, you did a better job explaining my thought than I did.
From what I've read and just from watching him, President Obama is a people person who is at his best when he can connect directly with the people, see their reaction, listen to their questions, shake hands. None of that is possible in a press conference. I can appreciate that he likes to escape the Washington bubble--just listening to the pundits chew and the legislators spat, it has to get old.
I had the good fortune of a two week vacation on Maui and loved every minute. Beautiful, just beautiful.
Try as I may, I just cannot get behind any of the Stimulus because of the Wall Street Bail Out. I am still betrayed by that move. I will never forgive the rewarding of those criminals and the reprehensible rush to self interest at my and every other victim's expense. The Stimulus was / is the "little bit of sugar" meant to make the bitter rush to save Politician's portfolio's pill (called Bail Out) go down. I had my doubts when the first crack appeared over the campaign funding issue. He should have restricted himself, he gave his word. He showed he was vulnerable to money interests.
He promised change, and before the wrinkles in the newly hung clothes in the closet had fallen out after moving into the White House , this Administration became Old Washington. The Bail Out instead of sending anyone to jail for what clearly is criminal. Wall Street took that Bail Out and gave themselves Bonuses. The banks still have not assisted small business with loans as the Bail Out was touted as being the purpose for.
The Stimulus Package had so many "Special Interests/Pet Programs" attached and is so very ineffective. The Change Party took our plight and used for personal political agendas that had/have nothing to do with WE THE PEOPLE. If they had been serious, every taxpayer could have taken an equal share and done more for the economy than what has been accomplished in either the Bail Out or Stimulus Programs.
I cannot support another raping of my pocketbook. I'm infirmed, older, unable to work. That Health Bill has negatively impacted me already - Gov. Swartzenagger has already instructed those like me (elderly / disabled) should be surrendered for the fiscal good of the state. We should be allowed to die rather than saved. Unemployment rose here.
I see no benefit for throwing good money after bad.
You are aware that the "Bail Out" was Bush's baby, aren't you?
I remember instructing my elected official to VOTE NO on that bill. Don't matter who's idea it was. Nor does it justify throwing good money after bad! And Bush was out of office when the Dems piled special pet program/projects to an already inflated Bail Out/Stimulus
Listening to that fool Chris Jansing yapping about some clueless media moron who is pushing for Hillary Clinton to switch jobs with Joe Biden. No Hillary is where she best serves the country and President Obama and I don't see the Obama/Clinton ticket as some kind of Dream Team duet except for the repugnant ones to Whine Baby Whine about the two politicians they hate most now. Hillary Clinton is doing a great job as Secretary of State and she would be a fool to want to be the Vice President and face the Clinton haters again on the campaign trail.
This is the kind of ignorant garbage that MSNBC tv is blowharding about and that is just plain stupid in the extreme. No wonder I keep switching away from MSNBC tv before Dylan Ratigan comes on as the morning nagging hag gossip queens after the Mourning Jerky Joe show just aren't worth watching. MSNBC tv had better clean up it's act and remember who it's base of viewers are before they become as irrelevant as CNN (Fox Lite).
Bring Back David Shuster! Dump the Morning Nag Hag Gossip Queens!
Eric,
I'm still laughing at both women suggesting that one. If a foil for Sarah Palin and her Tea Party is still needed when we return to the polls for the Presidential we as a society are truly doomed.
With Tony Hayward being relieved I guess real news is scarce.
Don't forget Keith "The Traitor To The New Messiah" Olbermann. You hate him now too, right? Actually, Hillary would never want to be VP. It would make it too hard for her to run against Obama in 2012 like she's probably doing. She would have been the Dem nominee in 08' if it hadn't been for Obama's dirty tricks and race-baiting used on her.
Must be a slow news day; and please, Nov 2012 is 2 1/2 years away. I'm female and no way do I think that makes any sense. I liked President Clinton and I like Hillary Clinton but I looked for an alternative to her--because the Clinton 8-year soap opera drama was exhausting. Hillary is in a position that suits her well, she is doing a great job. Obama chose Biden because of his foreign policy creds, his legislative experience, and his ability to connect with people--gaffes, long-windedness warts and all. From the books I've read, Obama relies on Biden a great deal and they have a good, solid relationship. We saw him in yesterday's WH press conference responding to Joe Barton's remarks. Thanks, but no thanks.
From Michael Thompson............People I used to have reasonable conversations with that had NOTHING to do with politics now do not talk to me. People who I MIGHT become friends with in other periods of time now do not speak to me at ALL once they learn that I have even the slightest liberal leanings....
...he says after spending the entire morning name-calling, ridiculing and condescending to people who disagree with him politically. Do you Happy Hypocrites ever get tired of being so easy?
Okay, name a post where I have called anyone a name, ridiculed someone or condescended to someone.
I wouldn't know if you've never done such a thing, but I will attest that we've had a rather lengthy series of posts back and forth without name calling, ridicule, or condescending remarks.
Hell, I'll volunteer to ridicule anyone that uses a name like Chuck U Farley on a discussion board. Hell, I'll even call him/her names, to boot. Seems like that's behavior they WANT to precipitate- wouldn't want to dissapoint 'em.
Let's face it. Obie is tanking in all areas. (except for the German polls, and they can have him) Unless he manages to recreate fire or improves on the wheel, it's not going to get any better for him.
So many posts reflect an emotionalized, irrational, polarized public that simply fails to contemplate reality and instead is simply led by appeals to their biases, prejudices and emotional attachments (are being manipulated). I don't think any rationally contemplative person wants either increased taxes and growing government spending .. or .. the continuation of the current drastic problems and a return to the mentality that greatly contributed to the creation of those problems. The question is "can we have all of that or are they mutually exclusive positions?" I think the honest reality is that to solve the problems there are simply necessary real costs and to reject those costs is to then allow the problems to continue and even worsen. So from that it can be seen that it is necessary to intelligently and objectively decide do we want the problems to go away or do we want to not have any costs? The responsible and realistic decision is to control both: resolve the problems with controlled costs! Actually the costs are going to be there either way and to infer that there is a way to have no costs is to be lying. Has anyone heard this rational approach offered by any politician or are they always just putting their interests and political ambitions above all else, above all responsibility while just fighting each other? Interesting!
Here we go again with another STIMULUS , Lets put america deeper in debt. I haved an idea? Lets make the f----in rich pay there fair share in taxes. No more right off for them.
I’ve said that I am anti-Republican but that really isn’t accurate. What I am is actually anti those who took over the Republican Party, turned the Republican representatives into their ‘puppets’, organized the perpetual campaigning to be an impressive con job aimed to constantly deceive and manipulate the people and who really are those who make the decisions that always benefit Special Interests and the few. As I see it I’m against the likes of the Carlyle Group, the oil industry executives, including Halliburton, and several others who are the real control in the wings. George W Bush was obviously only a ‘puppet’ who as they satisfied his ego and promised him substantial financial gain he simply, without even any hint of a conscience, totally did their bidding; Sarah Palin (and likely others) stand ready, again without conscience, to continue where Bush left off. It was also very apparent that Dick Cheney filled the roll of ‘puppeteer’ and liaison as he was the conduit for the instructions. The results cost this country drastically and of course, only benefited the very few.
We have seen their overt and covert support, their powerful, influential and wealthy promotion with the ‘Swift Boat’ attacks, in their emotionally swaying of the Christian block, in using appeals to people’s biases, prejudices and attachments to manipulate public opinion and even now with the Tea Party Movement; all being impressive but deceptive efforts, and without those efforts the Republican Party would be really hurting. The people swayed feel correct and justified, being emotionally tied in, but the proof that they are being ‘used and abused’ is in the results. We have the vivid example of what happened with Bush-Cheney where they arrogantly and stubbornly totally focused on a private agenda to benefit Special Interests and a select very few while just giving everyone else apathy, the costs and an abundance of subterfuge; the list is very long, the costs were really great and the in-your-face obnoxiousness was always there. Even now, they aggressively mount unreasonable attacks, faulting and blocking everything, against Obama and again get the people emotionally tied into positions that benefit only the few. Obama could definitely use bipartisan cooperation to fine tune and adjust the efforts to resolve the drastic problems he inherited from Bush-Cheney, there simply is no doubt about that, but instead the Republican Party decision makers put political ambitions above all responsibility and just criticize and obstruct everything, no matter what the cost to the people. If those being manipulated could just resist the subterfuge and simply check their emotions to see the obvious truth, they would recognize the absurdity of faulting Obama for the problems whose origination preceded him and where he is making honest efforts to soften the effects while fighting to solve the problems – especially when the Republicans really have no answers and only want to return to ‘more of the same’.
That explains what I am really against, what I am ‘anti’. It all likely started with Nixon, grew dynamically with Reagan and hit the extreme pits with Bush-Cheney (and Rove,,). Today it is an impressive force but it is very scary as it can only do more damage as it strives to satisfy the insatiable appetite of a few, for more, and more, and more.
The GOP is now in deep DO /DO listening to that idiot john boehner ! They just realized they haven't done a dam thing in 2 years now ..While America is praising their HERO" OBAMA" He just showed America we don't need the senate or the congress to get what the people need done! Way to go Moron !!! I mean john !!!