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Judge Vic Rawl, the Democrat that political novice Alvin Greene defeated in last week's South Carolina Democratic Senate primary, is making a statement today about the election.
He calls for an investigation into the primary, but maintains that his protest isn't directed at Greene. Instead, he argues that there were reports of trouble with electronic, touch-screen voting machines.
"The strange circumstances surrounding Tuesday's vote require a thorough investigation. For better or worse, this protest process is the only platform currently available for that investigation," he's expected to say, according to a statement his campaign released. "And let me be clear: regardless of the outcome of this protest, a full and unblinking investigation of this election and the overall integrity of South Carolina's election system must go forward."
More from Rawls: "Like all of you, I am aware of the controversies surrounding Mr. Greene. This protest is not about him either. I would like to speak directly to Mr. Greene and say: 'Sir, this is not about you, and it's not about me. I wish you and your family nothing but the best in the weeks and months ahead.'"
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Here we go again. What is wrong with South Carolina? Is it in the water there? What?
Obama said BUSH did it !!!!!!!!!!!
I guess you should blame it on the South Carolina State Democratic party...Had they vetted their selections and did a little background check, they wouldn't have had this problem. As long as the money was flowing in they were fat dum and happy!!!!!!!!!!!!!
He is just the run of the mill Democratic ,actually better than most he is a veteran with a collage education so what is wrong with this man running, He is educated more than most democrats are and did serve his country . As for him facing sex charges at lest his sex crimes were not committed in the oval office like Clintons was.He is just following in Clinton's footsteps so that makes him a good democratic candidate.
What is wrong is that South Carolina has an open primary system where a voter can cross party lines to vote for a candidate from the other party in that partys primary. This is incredibly stupid and a recipe for dishonesty and the corruption of our election system. You should be required to demonstrate your alliegance to a party in order to be able to select its candidates. What happened in this case smacks of bad faith, tricks and connivance in order to require the Democratic party to put forth a candidate that is almost certain to lose against any Republican. If this is true and a conspiracy to hijack the elective process is disclosed, then the conspirators are virtually treasonous and should get jail terms for a long, long time.
It IS bizarre. How can SO many things be constantly screwed up in one state???
Last week I closely watched Mr. Greene's interview with Keith Olbermann. Evidently he had a lawyer off-camera to help him with his answers. My sense he has been set up by someone. I'm not sure he realizes he has been taken advantage of. But someone is pulling the stings behind the scenes. My guess it is a Republican dirty trick...Let's wait and see.
Lol wow. So an unknown wins the democrat primary and it's a grand republican conspiracy? Get on your meds.
Vic must be a top grade candidate to lose to someone with a campaign.
An 'unknown' winning something. And Republicans had something to do with it. Hmmm.. Kind of has a Palin-esque ring to it, huh?
Cryos. Watching the interview with Alvin Greene was painful; I felt sorry for him--he obviously lacked political skills and knowledge. The man is an unemployed veteran. Where did he get the $10,000 plus filing fee? An unemployed person isn't going to blow $10,000 to run for office as a democrat against a strong republican. He had no campaign fund, did not advertise, did no rallies. He claims having some flyers and that he traveled all over SC to informal meetings and it was word of mouth from friends that elected him. If he had no campaign money, no personal money who paid for the flyers and the gas to travel the state. This just doesn't add up. I don't buy into conspiracy theories but this just smells of a setup by someone.
@Cryos:
I don't have a tinfoil had and I don't believe in conspiracy theories unless they are proven.
However, I, too, watched Keith Olberman's interview with Alvin Greene. The man couldn't put together a single complete sentence let alone string together mutliple complete sentences. If this guy's legit then he deserves to be steamrolled by Jim DeMint.
However, keep in mind that South Carolina holds an open primary...Republicans can vote for the nominee of the other party.
Again, not calling "shenanigans" here...but something doesn't quite add up.
Look,
The man won now deal with it. If it were a white dude that won in that manner, no one would say sh!t.
Yes, I agree he isn't too political astute, but there is no where in any rule that says you have to be the most educated person in the state to run. If you have 10,000 no matter where you got it from, you can get your name on the ballot. Why does it matter where he got the money from?
First of all he needs advisors to tell him to keep his butt off of T.V., definately off of a show like Olbermann but he is a Democrat....LOL.....
That judge could'nt beat DeMint either so this is all show.
There is a flaw in the argument that Republicans voted for Greene in order to foul up the Democrats in November:
there was a hotly contested governor's primary, with two republicans coming close enough to warrant a run-off. Even in 'open' primaries, a voter can only vote one party.
I don't know where Greene came from, any more than any one else does. The fact is that any Democrat is going to lose in South Carolina in November, so why in the world would the Democrats further insult members of their own party by calling them too dumb to vote properly?
It is the party leadership that dropped the ball on this, no one else is to blame.
Ron Indiana,
The real question is why in the world were you watching that moron Keith Orgerman...You probably finished up with a helping of Rachel Madcow...I must say your gonads are 100 times bigger then your brain for admitting you watch that moron Keith Orgerman...You and Keith are in good company!!!!!
no joe, no bo, nj once again your saying something that is not in the artical, republicans are not mentioned in the artical, no one is blaming or saying the republicans are behind this. so please stop adding things that you want to see, Pls!!!!!
Nothing in the world like SC politics is there? I smell a rat and his name is Greene (R)!
I hope they DO instigate a full investigation - where did this guy get the $10,400 filing fee when just a couple of weeks ago in court (remember that pesky felony pornography charge?) he stated he was unemployed and the judge declared him indigent and gave him a court appointed attorney...
This isn't the first time the Republicrats have pulled something like this is THAT state!
Ha Ha Ha, the dems are just as big of tools as the Republicans. That has got to sting a little bit fiesty.
Jake - I would ask you what the hell you're talking about... but then it would look like I cared! Ha ha ha!
South Carolina - too small for a country, too big for an insane asylum
When Earnest T Bass dissappeared into the hills after breaking those windows with a rock, where did he go? That's right! Back to SOUTH Carolina!
Prior to the primary last week, Kathleen Parker added this sentence to that famous SC legislator's quote: "but just perfect for a bordello!"
Visited South Carolina on a couple of occasions. Great place. Charleston was wonderful with it's old town charm, Battery Park where Black Beard was hung and Fort Sumter. I believe Fort Moultrie is also located in SC which is an interesting place. Their State tree is the palmetto palm as I recall. The trunks of these trees are soft and were used to reinfoce old forts years ago as the they would absorbed the cannon balls fired from ships from off the coast or from the harbour. Spanish moss hanging off large oak trees, two story southern plantation homes, hot and steamy summer nights. And the place I believe where the famous Swamp Fox and the SC militia kept Lord Howe busy during the American revolution so that he was unable to move north to support those British forces facing George Washington. SC may be experiencing some bizarre political behavior but believe me, the folks of SC have a great deal to take pride in.
I would look at the local gangs to see if there is any affiliation, where did he get the money to file, where did the signatures come from and what does he stand for, this guy remindes me of the former detroit mayor who is not in jail!!!
As loyal democrate this guy is the last thing we need. if the republicans want tea partiers that fine for them but this guy remindes me of a street gang member off the street.
CA, I just a few days ago had a friend come back from a vacation is SC. She loved it and thought it was one of the most beautiful states she had ever been in.
While I agree there's something really strange about this story, I'll hold off on the conspiracy theories for now. However, I'd really like to hear from a few of the what was it, over 100,000 people who voted for Greene? as to just why exactly they voted for him. From everything I've read, he had no campaign staff, no campaign literature, made no campaign appearances - heck, he had no campaign, period. No one seems to know (including him?) what he stands for or what his plans are for South Carolina. I'm sure he wouldn't be the first candidate to win an election just because his name sounds nice or because it appeared first alphabetically on the ballot, but this wasn't some local election for county clerk, this is the United States Senate! What were these people thinking? I'm not trying to insult anyone in South Carolina, but I know there are at least a few folks from there who post here, and it would be interesting to hear their take on how this all played out.
Wasn't there more votes in some counties than people? Can't remember if I read that somewhere or heard it on tv.
Vic Rawl should be calling for an investigation to find out just how Alvin Greene beat him in a Senate primary without ever campaigning. We all know that south carolina is the most corrupt state politically and there's no doubt that the repugnant ones who run the state election system played some dirty tricks. No doubt they still revere the dirty political tricks Krazy Katherine Harris pulled in Florida in 2000 to steal the election for Criminal George Bush.
There's no doubt that unemployed vet Alvin Greene never saved up $10,400 to run for the Senate, he was given that money by dirty repugnant ones political tricksters. There's definitely an investigation needed to find out how Greene got more votes than actual voters in some districts or how he won by more percentage points in white districts than in black districts. Alvin Greene even had a repugnant one running his campaign, someone from Traitor Joe Wilson's staff and we know we can never trust Traitor Joe Wilson to tell the truth. We need to have the perils of open primaries fully disclosed because this kind of dirty political trickery can only happen in states with open primaries, that's why I voted against Idiot Arnold's open primary proposition scam here in California.
As James Clyburn, the most honest south carolina politician, says there is Elephant Dung All Over this despicable election sham. Time for Eric Holder to step up to the plate and execute a federal election scam investigation into south carolina's obviously rigged elections. We certainly can't trust anyone in south carolina to investigate honestly, especially repugnant ones from south carolina who will coverup their party's illegal shenanigans.
Boo-hoo you big baby. Clyburn has dug himself a huge hole now, hopefully it will soon be covered up by the elephant dung he smells. This has got to be the funniest story ever, I guess the Tea Party is not as a big of a joke now, it is the SC Democrats. HA HA HA!
I think were going to see a Black-on-Black crime!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
it really doesnt matter where the money came from,you dumba&& democrats voted for him
Eric...
Another slimy Lib making excuses to steal an election that was fairly won. Tell me how Republicans managed to insure over 100,000 votes for Mr Greene.. Clyburn should keep his corrupt mouth shut...he got those same 100,000 votes when he was elected....Dems are too stupid to fish much less to vote...Look at the walking train wreck they elected President...
Maybe it was all the died that ACORN registered to vote for ObamaNation!!!!!!!!!!!!
CA, I'm with you. Some great Atlantic Ocean coastline from Myrtle Beach to Hilton Head - a golfer's paradise - mountains and lakes in the northwest part of the state, Charleston is a delightful city. The American victory over the British at Cowpens can be seen as a turning point in the Revolution - although the actual battle bore little resemblance to its portrayal in the Mel Gibson movie "The Patriot." First state to secede from the Union, first shots of the Civil War, still flys the Confederate battle flag. One of a kind politicians are just a logical extension of the past - John Calhoun, Strom Thurmond, Jim Demint, Mark Sanford... It's all very interesting.
Some of the best coverage of this story can be found in two articles by Tom Schaller at Nate Silver's FiveThirtyEight website.
Still no definitive conclusion on how Alvin Greene got the most votes in the Democratic primary.
Looks like he's the Democratic candidate for U.S. Senator from South Carolina, pending further review.
Definitely something wrong in SC. On Countdown, it was reported that Alvin Greene received more votes that the total cast for all the candidates or than there were registered voters--something like that. There were problems in other areas, too. I'm all for electronic vote counting but there must be backup paper ballots.
This whole thing smells fishy enough to at least be investigated.
When Weird Al got elected, there were several precincts with more ballots than people who signed in to vote. Was that a problem for you?
Oh Jody, as a former Iowegian you give the state a bad name. You Dems sound like the nutty Libertarians and there conspiracy theories. I am glad to say that I havent heard anyone blame it on Bush yet but this story is still young, after all it didnt take dung boy Clyburn to blame it ont he Repubs. Desparation.
This fella was declared indigent by the court and given a court appointed attorney, even though he had over 10 grand tucked away?
Just follow the money... (Oh, and Jody? I'm also from Iowa and enjoy and respect your posts!)
Last week, an analyst commented that voters who don't know much about candidates will choose the first name listed and it is possible that is how Greene won, his name was first. That might account for some votes but doesn't explain how he could get more votes than there were voters.
I think GWB hacked into the SC voting system and gave the felon more votes after he gave him the 10K to enter the race. I hope this guy was a republican plant, it makes the Dems in SC look like even bigger fools than they already are.
Bingo Jody!
That is exactly why this is not a coincidence it isa conspiracy. Republicans set out to make Democrats look bad and someone will end up in jail. Delicious!
I think that's probably true of DEMOCRAT voters who have atendency to forget who they were supposed to vote for by the time they get off the bus...I saw a film clip of interviews done with Obama voters as they left the pollong place after the Nov'08 election...Less than 50% knew which party was in charge in Washington (guessing would get you 50%) and most had no idea who the Democratic candidate for VP was... that's the Chicago way to win elections !!!
What an obvious political scam this is.
If the FBI doesn't find out who rigged this,
I'd fire them and send in the Federal Marshals
and if they couldn't do the job, I send in the Justice department.
But anyone can see this is a complete set up
and this Greene character is a "mark" and a "plant".
Someone is challanging the authority of the Federal government to monitor a free and fare election.
I would have my men on the ground today going through the records like a pack of wild dogs.
I want the fix-it man and I want him now!
This is no time for political cowardice.
This has the ghost of Lee Atwater written all over it.
this conspiracy idea is absurd. If the Repubs planted him, who got the Dems to vote for him????? I'm pretty sure if somebody got a robo call saying "We're calling from SC Republican headquarters and we want you to vote for the democratic candidate, Greene" that most Dems would hang up on that call!
Are you mentally challenged? Republicans voted for him in just large enough numbers to do the dirty trick knowing that Demint would easily beat his challenger. All of the Republican votes were not needed to secure his (Demint) victory.
What law was broken ? Guy paid his fee TO THE DEMOCRAT PARTY, was put on the ballot by the DEMOCRAT PARTY and received the most votes from SC DEMOCRATS... Are the Dems really going to try and steal an honestly contested election ??? Those 100,000 votes didn't appear out of nowhere...It didn't work when they tried it on Bush and I'm sure they will fail again.
Not only elephant dung, but Karl Rove elephant dung.
This is the Balloon Boy all over again. I put a thousand dollars down to all betters this was a con job! Anyone in these here United States want to put their money where their mouth is? You get a thousand dollars if the Balloon Boy of South Carolina is telling the truth as testified by the Judge. Any takers for my $1000.00 bet?
Why should there be a judge ??? The guy won the election even if he got the filing fee from the devil...there is no legal requirement to report where the filing fee came from...
What's all the fuss about Democrats? He is your perfect candidate - unemployed, a minority, doesn't know what he is doing, and he has a felony charge pending.
Sounds like a typical Democrat to me. The people just seen he was a Dem. and pulled the lever!!! Don't need to read or find out anything about this guy-just go for it!!! AND they did!!!!
Stop your racists comments about Alvin Greene! Sheesh, you'd think you people would be happy a poor black man won the election! Sso what if he's unqualified? Who are you all to judge? We have an unqualified black man in the White House and you people think he's the 2nd Coming. Leave Greene alone. He represents the average intellect of the average liberal. That should be good enough for you stale, pale racists.
just shows what kind of IQ people in the demodumb party have.
LMAO... I'll give you credit for letting us know you're from SC - and referring to IQ's in the same sentance!
Turnip anyone?
"Sentance" anyone ??
true palin- beck country. stupid
I believe Palin and Beck are Conservatives... the stupid part would be Dems...
There is a conspiracy. Plain and simple.
What law was broken...You're just another racist trying to steal an election from a poor black man.
Mr Green God Bless Him, was probably waiting for a golden handshake or an offer of a cabinet level job from Rahm to get out of the race. It is hilarious. Mr Green is hero no matter how he got on that ballot. He is the kind of guy that makes America great. I hope he wins the election.
He got on the ballot weeks ago by handing a cashiers check to the Democrat Party...they put him on the ballot.