Son of a pitch

In what would have been the last out, completing an historic perfect game, Detroit Tigers pitcher Armando Galarraga steps on first base in a bang-bang play just ahead of the Cleveland Indians' Jason Donald. Donald, though, was called safe.

For those of us looking for an excuse to get this foiled perfect game story on First Read, here's how it relates to politics...

Sen. Debbie Stabenow (D-MI) released a statement, "urging Major League Baseball Commissioner Bud Selig to invoke the 'Best Interests of the Game' clause to declare Armando Galarraga's performance perfect:

"Last night's performance deserves its place in the record books. It is clear that Commissioner Selig should make an exception in this case and invoke the 'best interests of the game clause' to grant a perfect game to Armando Galarraga and the Detroit Tigers organization."

(Thanks to the Morning Joe team for the inspiration for this headline.)

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*** UPDATE *** AP: "Commissioner Bud Selig will not reverse call that cost Armando Galarraga a perfect game."

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I agree, Bud Selig should, "for the best interests of baseball" override the umpire's call. Also, throw in instant replay while we are at it.

    Reply#1 - Thu Jun 3, 2010 2:25 PM EDT

    Sorry Ron on this i must disagree.

    if you look at the play the pitcher never had the ball secure in his glove. in baseball you must secure the catch in order to get the call.

    also the human element in baseball is what make the game pure. no instant replay, it will ruin the game like football. if you do have it in baseball you must only have 1 challenge pergame. because as you see in baseball almost every play is subject to a replay!!! pretty soon they will replay balls and stricks.

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    #1.1 - Thu Jun 3, 2010 2:41 PM EDT

    Jeff, I sooooooooooooo disagree. He was out. If the ump who called him safe even said he was out, he was out. The ball was secure at the time his foot hit the bag. The ball was a snow cone but it WAS secure.

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    #1.2 - Thu Jun 3, 2010 2:59 PM EDT

    Steve come on now, you must secure the ball in the mitt. as you look saw the replay, the ball was not in the mit, you could see the ball hanging out. the pitcher instead of looking down at the base he should have secured the ball then touch the base, i will say this, it was not a hit it was a error if any thing. it was a judgement call. the ump maybe got it wrong which he admitted but no hit and error.

    i just don't think instand replay should be in baseball, keep the game pure.

      #1.3 - Thu Jun 3, 2010 3:19 PM EDT

      I'd like to keep the pure nature of baseball without constant replay because the human element is what makes the game fun. But I do think there are instances when replay should be used like this perfect game on the line call, and championship games or whenever there is plausible doubt about a call. I'd hate to see it for strikes and balls or for every run/out call. It is unfair to both the pitcher and the umpire because when the ump sees he was wrong, the batter says he was clearly out, then history loses if the call isn't reversed.

        #1.4 - Fri Jun 4, 2010 9:50 AM EDT
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        First Read-- that was a pretty catchy heading! lol!!

          Reply#2 - Thu Jun 3, 2010 2:30 PM EDT

          Having the next batter get a hit really complicates this matter.

            Reply#3 - Thu Jun 3, 2010 2:31 PM EDT

            Yeah, it does. I was watching the Flyers/Blackhawks hockey game last night and the Flyers appeared to score, but the refs waited until the next stoppage to review it. Well, the next stoppage didn't happen until over a minute and a half later. Luckily, that minute and a half was pretty uneventful, but what if the Blackhawks had scored? What if someone had committed a penalty? That's an issue that has to be dealt with.

            As far as this is concerned, the only statistic that would really be affected are the hot totals and total bases of the guy who was erroneously called safe, but what if the next Cleveland batter had homered? What would you do if the Indians actually came back and won the game? Would you go all the way back and take the win off the board?

            In this case, the next batter didn't homer and the 'hit' was the only one, but if you set the precedent that you will go back and retroactively reverse a call, no matter how just it might seem, you have to do it every time and I'm not sure if you want to open up that Pandora's Box.

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            #3.1 - Thu Jun 3, 2010 2:41 PM EDT
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            He threw a perfect game whether the Commissioner acts or not. Just as Hank Aaron is still the all time homerun leader in the Majors--numerical records are not at the heart of any athletic endeavor. Neither are asterisks. The purity of the competitor cannot be stained.

              Reply#4 - Thu Jun 3, 2010 2:38 PM EDT

              Pat in Boston. This would have been the last out and there hence would be no next batter. What happend after the missed call would not have any bearing on the perfect game since if the call was made properly the game was over and no next batter.

                Reply#5 - Thu Jun 3, 2010 2:42 PM EDT

                US Navy, what I meant was that since the umpire admitted he was wrong, perhaps it would have been easier to just give him the perfect game. But since a hit was involved, it's harder to change it now.

                  Reply#6 - Thu Jun 3, 2010 2:47 PM EDT

                  Not too many people really take this site seriously as it is. But if we keep seeing what we saw yesterday, Crusty Redface and Inita Brain-ingham turning this into their own personal idiot board, even Eric "Racists Under MY Bed" Salinas is gonna ditch it.

                  I swear, the level of discussion had sunk to the which-Jonas Brother-is-cutest depth, thanks to those two and their brain-dead admirers. Go back to the American Idol board where you spend most nights anyway.

                  I'm sure many of you will be disappointed, but ole Chuck U is going to be on here a little less frequently. Got a job as propaganda minister for the Maryland chapter of the Tea Party. To quote some fools: "LOL"

                   

                   

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                  Reply#7 - Thu Jun 3, 2010 3:06 PM EDT

                  FU charley...one of the first things I liked about the new format was u were gone. Sorry u figured out how to re-emerge from under your bridge. The only thing you add to our forum is troll talk stupidity. None of us give $hit about what you think about anything. Please forget to cut out the eyeholes of your new minister outfit so you can step on your teabags.

                  The only thing we are disappointed about is you taking time to come back here and spew your teabag hatred. Don't let the door hit you in your troll @ss on the way out.

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                  #7.1 - Thu Jun 3, 2010 3:22 PM EDT

                  You said:

                  Crusty Redface and Inita Brain-ingham turning this into their own personal idiot board, even Eric "Racists Under MY Bed" Salinas is gonna ditch it.

                  And you're leading the pack with your hateful replies that never resemble discourse. I voted for you because this is the best news I've heard all day! You tea Piety's are bad at overlooking your own infractions and get insulted when you're called on them. Good riddance. ROTFLMAO!!!!!

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                  #7.2 - Thu Jun 3, 2010 3:27 PM EDT

                  You mean we have to miss out on the truculent posts and nasty attitude you supply on a daily basis?

                  Darn.

                    #7.3 - Thu Jun 3, 2010 3:32 PM EDT

                    Chris... LOVED the response... I just voted for ya! Glad to see you're giving the new format another chance...trust me it grows on you!

                    As for FU... seems Mom's giving the knuckle draggin basement dweller another bag of Cheeto's & free Wi-Fi'so he/she can come out and dazzle us all with their brilliance... :0)))

                    Let me be the first to staple a tea bag or two to your already empty skull! LOL Hope the new gig works out for you... you won't be missed around here that's for sure....

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                    #7.4 - Thu Jun 3, 2010 3:47 PM EDT

                    Amen red! Pass me the stapler :)

                      #7.5 - Thu Jun 3, 2010 4:02 PM EDT

                      Chris after I posted my comment I saw your's it was great! I'm still laughing! LOL!!! (this kills the them) lol!!!

                        #7.6 - Thu Jun 3, 2010 4:41 PM EDT

                        Hey Chuckey Doll - not surprised you'd be working for the Teahadist Paliban as some kind of propagandist because you have no talent in doing anything constructive in a real job. The level of discussion here is always dumbed down when you and your tea bagging pals come here to post your clueless racist rants. Don't go away mad, just go away! Run on back to NewsWhine over at Fox and Freaks as that's your speed, slow, dull and stupid.

                          #7.7 - Thu Jun 3, 2010 6:48 PM EDT
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                          Pat, Navy, Ron, anyone who cares. The only hit in the game was the one assigned to the bad call. The next batter after the blown call grounded out. So...instead of 27 up 27 down. It was 28 up 27 down. The bad call was the 3rd out. The next guy up grounded out. The ump admitted he blew the call. Out by a full step. I don't know what Selig should do. I do know he pitched the 21st perfect game in the history of the game.

                            Reply#8 - Thu Jun 3, 2010 3:09 PM EDT

                            Chris, I was told that the next batter got a hit!? If he didn't, then this should be a perfect game. No question about it. All I saw was the youtube video this morning, about 12 seconds worth just before I began work. And he looked safe by quite a bit. When I complained to a friend of mine, he said that the next batter got a hit.

                            Thanks Chris. I was either told something not correct or I misconstrued was what said to me. Which is what it sounds like happened. So based on what you said, it looks like a definite perfect game. Especially since the umpire apologized and admitted he was wrong.

                              #8.1 - Thu Jun 3, 2010 3:16 PM EDT

                              Hey Pat...I defer to your baseball expertise but in my humble opinion, he did pitch a perfect game.

                              I concur, if the next batter would have done anything other get out, the situation would have become to much woulda, coulda, shoulda.....what if. But since the next guy grounded out and game over, I think he should be credited with the history. So sad for the pitcher, team, fans and the ump. It really was a no brainer call. Not sure what the guy was thinking when he threw both arms horizontal. Almost makes you wonder if he had made up his mind before the play. I doubt it but ???????

                                #8.2 - Thu Jun 3, 2010 3:31 PM EDT

                                Chris, Navy here. I stand corrected and agree that this should go down as a perfect game. I was under the assumption that a hit followed the bad call. You are 100% correct and I stand corrected. I was responding to the comment that the hit would make any hope of over turning this more of a problem. I was trying to make the point that if the call was correct and the batter was out, that was the 27 out, game over, perfect game no contest and NO HIT.

                                  #8.3 - Fri Jun 4, 2010 10:00 AM EDT
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                                  Chris, boy did I screw up big time here all around. I meant to say he looked out by quite a bit. You are correct in all you said. I feel for you. If that was my team, I'd be furious beyond belief.

                                  It was perfect game. And Selig should say so and put it in the books as such.

                                    Reply#9 - Thu Jun 3, 2010 3:38 PM EDT

                                    To add insult to injury Pat, the guy didn't even get a no-hitter as they gave the guy an infield hit. And AP just reported that Selig will not change the outcome. Sucks!

                                    Terry, we are human and we will always make mistakes but if we have the ability to correct wrong, shouldn't we? or should we live in ignorant bliss? I don't know the answer, I just know it's not that cut and dry for me. I love the purity of baseball, but what is pure about human growth hormone or taking speed to play everyday?

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                                    #9.1 - Thu Jun 3, 2010 4:00 PM EDT
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                                    I think we are missing the true point of any game. That being before instant reply came around, the game was played and calls were blown, yet during those times records were made and stand today and some were broken. I think we are asking for something that can not be had and that is for the game to be called so perfect that no mistake is made. To err is to human and we make mistakes.

                                      Reply#10 - Thu Jun 3, 2010 3:44 PM EDT

                                      To err is human but instant replay corrects. Just because years ago we didnt have the capability doesnt mean we shouldnt use it. Remember at one time there were no night games because there werent any lights. Its time baseball becomes progressive for the good of the game. Institute instant replay in Baseball! Just a vote for that

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                                      #10.1 - Thu Jun 3, 2010 4:04 PM EDT

                                      I am merely pointing out how can we expect a perfectly called game (no mistakes) when we make them daily in our lives? This would create a false sense of being that no mistakes are made and they do happen. I have come to the conclusion that in today's society, we want things instantly, we want hings perfect and we have become a society so based on these that we forget that things or CACA happens. We can not expect anything to be so perfect (flawless) because the main ingrediant is human.

                                        #10.2 - Thu Jun 3, 2010 4:19 PM EDT
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                                        Terry, fair point. But boy it's difficult for all of us to see a potential perfect game end in such a way. I guess there are all kinds of mistakes made in the past that have changed the course of a game. This one is tough. But I see your point and it's valid.

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                                        Reply#11 - Thu Jun 3, 2010 3:56 PM EDT

                                        Pat, I hate to see that perfect game blown on a bad call as well, a game like that is tough to get let alone being blown by a bad call. I am not trying to be a villain just pointing out how can we expect a perfectly called game (no mistakes) when every day of our lives are filled with mistakes that we make.

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                                        Reply#12 - Thu Jun 3, 2010 4:07 PM EDT

                                        Making mistakes is one thing, and yes we all do it. However, when we can correct those mistakes we do -or at least I hope we do. And this is a correctable mistake that I don't believe anyone would object to. So now, instead of the pitcher having his rightful place in baseball history, the umpire will be the one who is remembered for the wrong reasons.

                                          #12.1 - Thu Jun 3, 2010 4:24 PM EDT

                                          Ron, yes mistakes can be corrected, I am just wondering in print I guess, would this create an environment for people to expect or guarantee that every game is called so perfectly that no mistakes are made? How can anyone be guaranteed that something is so perfect or flawless? I feel for the pitcher and the Ump. I know what I am suggesting and it's a tough road but crap happens, we all need to realize that and I think expecting and guaranteeing people a perfectly called game is beyond reason. I am not trying to offend anyone, just merely pointing out expecting a perfectly called game is just well?

                                            #12.2 - Thu Jun 3, 2010 4:38 PM EDT
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                                            Celtics/Lakers Interrupted

                                            Perhaps we should be looking at instant replay being required in baseball if there is a no hitter/perfect game after 7 innings...or something along those lines? I can see losing a game because of mistakes i.e., errors, missed signs, questionable ball/strike calls by an umpire - things like that...but this is really heart breaking.

                                            I'm sure Keith will talk about this tonite and will invite on his program an expertise on what is the best way to handle this going forward. And whoever it is, I'm sure he'll bring a professional thought out perspective to the situation.

                                            Ron - thanks for the confidence in Boston going forward in the finals.

                                              Reply#13 - Thu Jun 3, 2010 4:33 PM EDT

                                              Just one minor point, I think that politicians should stick to taking care of the serious problems facing this country instead of getting involved in sports. Thanks to Pat, Ron for allowing me to banter with you, my thoughts are just random thoughts not meant to offend anyone. Have a great evening.

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                                              Reply#14 - Thu Jun 3, 2010 5:02 PM EDT

                                              Terry, we are human and we will always make mistakes but if we have the ability to correct wrong, shouldn't we? or should we live in ignorant bliss? I don't know the answer, I just know it's not that cut and dry for me. I love the purity of baseball, but what is pure about human growth hormone or taking speed to play everyday? Just curious to know your position on those questions if you are so sure about Selig not changing the last out of the game in question. Does the pitcher deserve an asterik? Just askin?

                                                Reply#15 - Thu Jun 3, 2010 5:23 PM EDT

                                                Chris, I was angry over the drug scandal in baseball, I think anyone using performance enhancing drugs in any sport should face the same musing as Pete Rose. I agree with you about the purity of the game, that is what is attractive about it. The pitcher was robbed, I am just musing over the future and how it would look if we continue with replays and defining what is what, the current state of the NFL is a comparison in what I would not like baseball to look like. I really don't know the answer.

                                                  #15.1 - Thu Jun 3, 2010 7:07 PM EDT
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                                                  Hey Domenico thanks for lightening up First Read with this baseball story. A real shame that Galaragga lost his perfect game to an imperfect blown call by the ump. From the replays it sure looked rather obvious that the runner was way out. A real shame that Selig doesn't have the courage to overturn an obvious bad call, just shows how corrupt he is as a baseball commissioner and always has been protecting the steroid abusing crowd. Just goes to show that MLB needs video replay for such occassions when a bad call has been made and the umps need to rely on video replay to overturn a bad call when it happens on the field like in different pro sports.

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                                                  Reply#16 - Thu Jun 3, 2010 6:53 PM EDT

                                                  One more reason why I like First Read and its hosts, the clever title play on words even when I don't always get it like Bam on the Run.

                                                  The graciousness of the pitcher, the willingness of the umpire to say he was wrong and the batter who said he was out--that's baseball at its best. No brawls on the field, no punches thrown, no attacks on the umpire or the batter--just a "what can I say" smile on Galarraga's face.

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